NO-Redskins

[notorious]

I can't believe that play just happened with 30 seconds left! Wow!

['Hamas' Jenkins]

??

[Bugeater]

Yeah that looked like something that would happen to the Chiefs.

[notorious]

??

Redskins picked off a pass from Brees, DB ran the ball back to the 45 but Meachum stripped the ball out and ran it back for a TD.

Pretty crazy.

[Pablo]

Hrrmmm...sounds pretty crazy.

[notorious]

Yeah that looked like something that would happen to the Chiefs.

Kind of like Pollard blocking a punt when the ball goes past the Line of Scrimmage so it benefits the other team (it happened twice :()

[Bugeater]

The entire play is under review atm.

[notorious]

This is a big play. NO was down 17-10 with a 3rd and 28 when the play happened. I don't see any indisputable evidence to overturn.

[notorious]

Ruled a TD. Big time play in the NFC playoff race.

[Bugeater]

Play stands as called. Game tied at 17 all now.

[irishjayhawk]

So I have Brees and NO D. Correct me if my logic is off but:

Yahoo has scored it as an INT for Brees but no TD for my Saints D.

I'd argue that if it's an INT for Brees this means there has been a change in possession and therefore Meachem's TD should be scored for my D despite the fact that it isn't technically the Defense who scored.

Thoughts?

[Thig Lyfe]

So I have Brees and NO D. Correct me if my logic is off but:

Yahoo has scored it as an INT for Brees but no TD for my Saints D.

I'd argue that if it's an INT for Brees this means there has been a change in possession and therefore Meachem's TD should be scored for my D despite the fact that it isn't technically the Defense who scored.

Thoughts?

Makes sense.

[Bugeater]

So I have Brees and NO D. Correct me if my logic is off but:

Yahoo has scored it as an INT for Brees but no TD for my Saints D.

I'd argue that if it's an INT for Brees this means there has been a change in possession and therefore Meachem's TD should be scored for my D despite the fact that it isn't technically the Defense who scored.

Thoughts?
Who fucking cares?

[Skyy God]

So I have Brees and NO D. Correct me if my logic is off but:

Yahoo has scored it as an INT for Brees but no TD for my Saints D.

I'd argue that if it's an INT for Brees this means there has been a change in possession and therefore Meachem's TD should be scored for my D despite the fact that it isn't technically the Defense who scored.

Thoughts?

Meachum was on neither the D nor ST when he scored. Hence, my FFL team gets the 6.

[irishjayhawk]

Meachum was on neither the D nor ST when he scored. Hence, my FFL team gets the 6.

Well, if they credit an INT which implies change of possession, he is, by default, on D.

That's the way I see it.

[Bugeater]

Redskins up 27-17 now.

[-King-]

Holy shit! Redskins missed an easy FG to win the game.

[chiefsfan987]

This sucks. The local Fox station took the game off so that they could show commercials before the seahawks game.

[-King-]

http://www.justin.tv/svx28

[kcpasco]

TD SAINTS

[Bugeater]

Saints just tied the game up.

[Thig Lyfe]

Saints just tied the game up.

Wow.

I have no idea why FOX is showing the Cowboys pre-game shit instead of this.

[the Talking Can]

NO ties it up

50 yard td

1 min left

[Mile High Mania]

Ha! I've got Brees and Meachem starting today.

[cdcox]

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[dirk digler]

Fuck holding skins

[-King-]

Damn 15 yards.

[chiefs1111]

wow dumb ass

[Mr. Laz]

Gooo Washington

[kcpasco]

INT SAINTS

[-King-]

INTERCEPTION!

[dirk digler]

Campbell throws an INT 28 seconds left

[memyselfI]

Come on NO!!!!

[-King-]

This game is going to OT.

[memyselfI]

This game is going to OT.

BOOO HISS.

[Mr. Laz]

Come on NO!!!!
boooooooooooooooo NO



go washington!!!!!!!!!

[memyselfI]

boooooooooooooooo NO



go washington!!!!!!!!!

I can only support one politically incorrect team. Sorry.

[RippedmyFlesh]

This game is going to OT.
Maybe not 1 pass and a fg.

[dirk digler]

58yd FG attempt by Saints

[Shag]

58yd FG from a guy who's never attempted a 50+...

[Mr. Laz]

I can only support one politically incorrect team. Sorry.
:rolleyes:

a win by washington improves our draft position

[-King-]

58 yarder? You took 5 seconds to get the previous play so why wouldn't you try to get another play with 5 seconds?

[memyselfI]

:rolleyes:

a win by washington improves our draft position

So do more losses which I am sure are on the horizon.

[-King-]

I'd rather do a hail mary than risk a short FG being returned for a TD.

[chiefs1111]

time for some OT

[Mr. Laz]

So do more losses which I am sure are on the horizon.
well ... it's nice to see you're just a stubborn and silly about non-political stuff.

[Shag]

Redskins win the toss...

[RippedmyFlesh]

NO needed
http://blog.mitchellandness.com/image.axd?picture=2009/11/dempsey.jpg

[memyselfI]

well ... it's nice to see you're just a stubborn and silly about non-political stuff.

See an undefeated team lose their first game to help the Chiefs draft position is not something I hope for. Especially knowing we will continue to lose games and help ourselves. If they had lost a game already then I wouldn't care.

Sorry.

[Mr. Laz]

See an undefeated team lose their first game to help the Chiefs draft position is not something I hope for. Especially knowing we will continue to lose games and help ourselves. If they had lost a game already then I wouldn't care.

Sorry.
so another team's going undefeated is more important than improving the team you root for?

:shake:

agree to disagree

[memyselfI]

so another team's going undefeated is more important than improving the team you root for?

:shake:

agree to disagree

After the performance today then I can unequivocally say yes.

[-King-]

Thats a fumble!

[Mr. Laz]

After the performance today then I can unequivocally say yes.
Then put on your NO hat and jump on that bandwagon

c-ya

[-King-]

so another team's going undefeated is more important than improving the team you root for?

:shake:

agree to disagree

Who do we draft with a top 5 pick like you want?


I'd rather see the Saints go undefeated than see us with a top 5 pick which we'll waste.

[memyselfI]

Then put on your NO hat and jump on that bandwagon

c-ya

Saints or Colts. I want someone else to go 16-0. Don't care which. Just don't want the Pats being the only team.

[Mecca]

Who do we draft with a top 5 pick like you want?


I'd rather see the Saints go undefeated than see us with a top 5 pick which we'll waste.

Boy that's an awesome take, we'll always suck so it doesn't matter.

[-King-]

Boy that's an awesome take, we'll always suck so it doesn't matter.

I didn't say that. Who would we draft with a top 5 pick?

[memyselfI]

Who do we draft with a top 5 pick like you want?


I'd rather see the Saints go undefeated than see us with a top 5 pick which we'll waste.

Thank you.

Besides, if these guys played like they gave a shit then maybe I would hope that guys playing their hearts out would fall a bit short.

[Mr. Laz]

Who do we draft with a top 5 pick like you want?

I'd rather see the Saints go undefeated than see us with a top 5 pick which we'll waste.
no offense, but you're a moron.


a new CBA will probably have draft salary slotting which will make a top 5 pick valuable in trading down as well.

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

Saints or Colts. I want someone else to go 16-0. Don't care which. Just don't want the Pats being the only team.

It's not about the Pats. It's about Hating Shula

Fuck Shuuuuuuuuuula

[-King-]

Saints ball. Game over.

[dirk digler]

Redskins just got hosed wtf?

[RippedmyFlesh]

Thats a fumble!
Great call:clap:

[Shag]

The Skins just gave this game away again...

[Bugeater]

Huge reversal there, Saints have the ball now.

[-King-]

no offense, but you're a moron.


a new CBA will probably have draft salary slotting which will make a top 5 pick valuable in trading down as well.

There wont be a new CBA before next year.

[-King-]

Redskins just got hosed wtf?

Ball was loose before his arm was down.

[Mecca]

I didn't say that. Who would we draft with a top 5 pick?

There is that Eric Berry guy.

[-King-]

There is that Eric Berry guy.

Doubt we'll go low enough to get him.

[Thig Lyfe]

I'd love to see the Saints and Colts both go undefeated and meet in the Super Bowl. Highest stakes ever.

[Shag]

The Saints have gotten some ridiculous breaks today - fluke play at the end of the half, missed WAS chipshot, WAS fumble in OT...

[dirk digler]

Ball was loose before his arm was down.

no it wasn't if anything it was simultaneous definitely not worthy of over turning the call on the field

[-King-]

I have a weird feeling he might miss it.

[memyselfI]

Nooo. Not two and a row.

[Mecca]

It's to bad Minnesota is better than New Orleans...

[Mr. Laz]

I'd love to see the Saints and Colts both go undefeated and meet in the Super Bowl. Highest stakes ever.

bandwagon mofo's all over this place

[Shag]

Saints win. Boo.

[chiefs1111]

Saints get the win

[-King-]

It's to bad Minnesota is better than New Orleans...

Eh. Don't think so, especially with Winfield out. It will be a good NFCC game.

[dirk digler]

Refs win refs win

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Fuck you Zorn, you fucking tool.

I hope NO goes to the Bowl; that town deserves some good mojo after being raped this decade.

[memyselfI]

Sweeet!

They won.

[Shag]

Eh. Don't think so, especially with Winfield out. It will be a good NFCC game.

IMHO, Winfield will be back by the playoffs...

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Minnesota still hasn't been Favre'd in the playoffs. You know it's coming.

[Basileus777]

NO is so fucking lucky that it makes me sick.

[-King-]

Minnesota still hasn't been Favre'd in the playoffs. You know it's coming.

I keep telling my friend(huge vikings fan) that. Darren Sharper will have 4 picks against his old team.

[Mecca]

I keep telling my friend(huge vikings fan) that. Darren Sharper will have 4 picks against his old team.

In fairness Favre just isn't throwing picks he knows he can lean on Peterson and has taken sacks instead of doing stupid shit.

[Pablo]

NO is so ****ing lucky that it makes me sick.Pretty much.

I mean, I don't dislike them or anything, but f*ck, could you get any luckier??

Drew Brees must have like 4 horseshoes up his ass.

[Thig Lyfe]

bandwagon mofo's all over this place

What, as a football fan, would be the most exciting and enjoyable Super Bowl possible? Two undefeated teams.

It's not bandwagon, it's cheering for the best possible game.

[-King-]

In fairness Favre just isn't throwing picks he knows he can lean on Peterson and has taken sacks instead of doing stupid shit.

Can't lean on AP if he keeps fumbling.

[-King-]

What, as a football fan, would be the most exciting and enjoyable Super Bowl possible? Two undefeated teams.

It's not bandwagon, it's cheering for the best possible game.

No, as Chiefs fans we need to take the Herm Edwards approach and not watch the SB unless the Chiefs are in it.... right Laz? :rolleyes:

[KcMizzou]

I wouldn't mind seeing NO win it all. That fanbase has suffered a LOT.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

In fairness Favre just isn't throwing picks he knows he can lean on Peterson and has taken sacks instead of doing stupid shit.

He was doing the same thing with Grant in 2007...

It's just a matter of time. It always is with Favre.

[Mr. Laz]

What, as a football fan, would be the most exciting and enjoyable Super Bowl possible? Two undefeated teams.

It's not bandwagon, it's cheering for the best possible game.

well let's examine the situation

you have people saying having New Orleans win is more important than something positive happening for their own team because New Orleans is having a great season and because the Chiefs season sucks.

switching priority from one team to another because of how their season is going.


the VERY definition of Bandwagon jumping imo.

[Thig Lyfe]

well let's examine the situation

you have people saying having New Orleans win is more important than something positive happening for their own team because New Orleans is having a great season and because the Chiefs season sucks.

switching priority from one team to another because of how their season is going.


the VERY definition of Bandwagon jumping imo.

How much would a Redskins win really have affected the Chiefs? I mean, really? If it's the difference between the Chiefs picking 4th and 5th, who gives a shit? As a football fan, I'd rather see the best Super Bowl possible than the Chiefs having a slightly higher draft pick to waste.

It's not bandwagon jumping. It's trying to glean some entertainment value from a lost season.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

How much would a Redskins win really have affected the Chiefs? I mean, really? If it's the difference between the Chiefs picking 4th and 5th, who gives a shit? As a football fan, I'd rather see the best Super Bowl possible than the Chiefs having a slightly higher draft pick to waste.

It's not bandwagon jumping. It's trying to glean some entertainment value from a lost season.

Dude, go over to your toaster and challenge it to a debate; you might actually get the toaster to learn something.

[Mr. Laz]

I'd rather see the best Super Bowl possible than the Chiefs having a slightly higher draft pick to waste.
fair enough ... then you are more of a football than you are a Chiefs fan

some of us bleed red and gold ... you apparently do not.

[Thig Lyfe]

fair enough ... then you are more of a football than you are a Chiefs fan

some of us bleed red and gold ... you apparently do not.

LOL OK

I'm not a Chiefs fan because I'm not losing my shit over the Redskins losing.

Whatever you say.

[Mecca]

Some people like to enjoy the football season.

[Mr. Laz]

I'm not a Chiefs fan because I'm not losing my shit over the Redskins losing.
first ... i didn't say you weren't a chiefs fan

secondly .. i'm not "losing my shit"(whatever that means) over anything.

[KcMizzou]

Some people like to enjoy the football season.When your team's this bad... it's natural. I mean, we're all Chiefs fans... but we're also football fans. I see nothing wrong with it.

[-King-]

fair enough ... then you are more of a football than you are a Chiefs fan

some of us bleed red and gold ... you apparently do not.

Really? You are a joke. The Chiefs are not going to the superbowl. So why wouldn't we want to watch the best possible matchup in that game? We might lose 1 or 2 spots in the draft, but big fucking deal. There isn't really a standout player we can draft with the pick we have unless Berry is there. And the higher we pick the more $ we have to spend on that pick. Do you want another $50 million dollar player?

[LiL stumppy]

first ... i didn't say you weren't a chiefs fan

secondly .. i'm not "losing my shit"(whatever that means) over anything.

To put "losing your shit" into simple terms Sir Laz. It simply means overreacting. That is all.

[Mr. Laz]

When your team's this bad... it's natural. I mean, we're all Chiefs fans... but we're also football fans. I see nothing wrong with it.
even if it hurts the future prospects of the Chiefs?

not me

Chiefs first ......... every other team second.


just me, i guess.

[Pablo]

Do you want another $50 million dollar player?Uh, we don't really have a choice if we want one or not...we're gonna be paying whoever we pick around that much.

[Mr. Laz]

To put "losing your shit" into simple terms Sir Laz. It simply means overreacting. That is all.

am i overreacting or just discussing?

[LiL stumppy]

i'm i overreacting or just discussing?

Both sir, your statement that he isn't a true Chiefs fan because he wants to see a good SB is absurd, how ever, I wouldn't exactly call it "overreacting"

[TheGuardian]

It's to bad Minnesota is better than New Orleans...

Except that they aren't.

[Mr. Laz]

Really? You are a joke. The Chiefs are not going to the superbowl. So why wouldn't we want to watch the best possible matchup in that game? We might lose 1 or 2 spots in the draft, but big ****ing deal. There isn't really a standout player we can draft with the pick we have unless Berry is there. And the higher we pick the more $ we have to spend on that pick. Do you want another $50 million dollar player?
and if Washington ends up picking Berry one pick ahead of us because they didn't steal a win today. How will you feel about cheering for a New Orleans then?

[KcMizzou]

even if it hurts the future prospects of the Chiefs?

not me

Chiefs first ......... every other team second.


just me, i guess.Hell, I found myself hoping the 'skins would pull out that win, mainly just because they were huge underdogs. (Same reason I'd like to see NO win it all... they haven't experienced much success) It's not like NO would be hurting at 11-1. The draft never entered my mind.

I hope that doesn't make me a bad fan. It's Chiefs first for me too, man... I'm one of the biggest homers on CP. (You know that)

[LiL stumppy]

and if Washington ends up picking Berry one pick ahead of us because they didn't steal a win today. How will you feel about cheering for a New Orleans then?

Isn't Berry staying next year in school anyways?

[Mr. Laz]

Isn't Berry staying next year in school anyways?
i haven't heard either way for sure but that's not really the point, is it?

[-King-]

and if Washington ends up picking Berry one pick ahead of us because they didn't steal a win today. How will you feel about cheering for a New Orleans then?


Eh, we can play the "if" game till the draft comes. But there will be no point.

[Mr. Laz]

I hope that doesn't make me a bad fan.
never said anyone was a bad fan

merely that some have different priorities than others.

[KcMizzou]

never said anyone was a bad fan

merely that some have different priorities than others.Fair enough.

[Mr. Laz]

Eh, we can play the "if" game till the draft comes. But there will be no point.
nice deflection ... there is a point, you just would rather not think about it.


but whatever

[LiL stumppy]

i haven't heard either way for sure but that's not really the point, is it?

With Carlos Rodgers,DeAngalo Hall, and LaRon Landry, I honestly don't see the skins interested in Eric Berry, is that not 3 first rounders in their secondary all ready?

[Thig Lyfe]

even if it hurts the future prospects of the Chiefs?

not me

Chiefs first ......... every other team second.


just me, i guess.

It doesn't hurt the fucking future prospects of the Chiefs!!! The effect this game has on the Chiefs is, in the long run, negligible.

Okay, here, if you want everything to be connected to the Chiefs, here's how cheering for the Saints still makes me a true Chiefs fan: I don't want us to have too high a pick because it's harder to trade down and stockpile picks that could be used to fill the multitude of holes this team has. If our pick gets too high, nobody is going to want to give up multiple picks (see 2009 draft). The 5-8 range will be easier to trade out of.

Happy now?

[KcMizzou]

Laz, are you actively rooting for the Chiefs to lose now... for the draft position?

[-King-]

nice deflection ... there is a point, you just would rather not think about it.


but whatever

Ok, what if we win the remaining games on our schedule. The NO/Redskins game won't mean shit to us then right.

[TheGuardian]

I don't give two craps about draft position. I'd rather the Chiefs win. Pulling for the Skins to win so we can climb up in the draft is strange, to say the least. If a high draft slot had any amount of guaranteed success then teams like the Raiders and Lions wouldn't be in the cellar every single year. The Ravens have done some of the best first round drafting in the mid to late first part of the first round for a long time now. Having a top 5 pick doesn't mean jack or shit, and jack left town. I could care less about watching games and pulling for certain teams because of the draft. Stupid.

[-King-]

I don't give two craps about draft position. I'd rather the Chiefs win. Pulling for the Skins to win so we can climb up in the draft is strange, to say the least. If a high draft slot had any amount of guaranteed success then teams like the Raiders and Lions wouldn't be in the cellar every single year. The Ravens have done some of the best first round drafting in the mid to late first part of the first round for a long time now. Having a top 5 pick doesn't mean jack or shit, and jack left town. I could care less about watching games and pulling for certain teams because of the draft. Stupid.

This.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Laz, are you actively rooting for the Chiefs to lose now... for the draft position?

LMAO "Artful turnaround"-rep.

[memyselfI]

well let's examine the situation

you have people saying having New Orleans win is more important than something positive happening for their own team because New Orleans is having a great season and because the Chiefs season sucks.

switching priority from one team to another because of how their season is going.


the VERY definition of Bandwagon jumping imo.

Let's examine your position. You want an undefeated team to lose because their doing so MIGHT help a hapless and hopeless Chiefs team in ways they will be more than able to help themselves (see sucking and losing more games) and those not seeing this wisdom are some how being disloyal bandwagoners????

Me thinks you sound like a shell shocked PTSD sufferer. Therefore losing seems logical.