Updated Draft selection order

[Mr. Laz]

<center><big><big><big>PRELIMINARY 2010 FIRST-ROUND DRAFT SELECTION ORDER
</big></big></big>

December 15, 2009

(F indicates coin flip required to break tie; Note opposition W-L % based on all 16 opponents this season)
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<big><big></big></big></center><small></small> <table style="width: 524px; height: 883px;" border="0"> <tbody> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">#
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">Team
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold; text-align: center;"><small>W-L
</small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>Opp W-L %</small>
</td> </tr> <tr style="font-weight: bold;"> <td>1</td> <td>St. Louis</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">1-12
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">.548
</td> </tr> <tr style="font-weight: bold;"> <td>2</td> <td>Tampa Bay</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">1-12 </td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;">.563 </td> </tr> <tr style="font-weight: bold;"> <td>3
</td> <td>Cleveland</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>2-11 </small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>.519</small> </td> </tr> <tr style="font-weight: bold;"> <td> <dt>4
</dt> </td> <td> <dt>Detroit</dt> </td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"> <small>2-11</small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>.534</small> </td> </tr> <tr style="font-weight: bold;"> <td> <dt>5 </dt> </td> <td> <dt> Kansas City</dt> </td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>3-10</small> </td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>.519</small> </td> </tr> <tr style="font-weight: bold;"> <td> <dt>6 </dt> </td> <td> <dt> Washington</dt> </td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>4-9</small> </td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>.486</small> </td> </tr> <tr style="font-weight: bold;"> <td style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">7</td> <td style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Oakland</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>4-9 </small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>.514</small> </td> </tr> <tr style="font-weight: bold; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> <td> <dt>8
</dt> </td> <td>Seattle</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>5-8 </small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>.471</small> </td> </tr> <tr style="font-weight: bold; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> <td>9
</td> <td> Denver (from Chicago)</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>5-8 </small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>.495</small> </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">10
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">Buffalo<small></small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; font-weight: bold;"><small>5-8 </small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>.510</small> </td> </tr> <tr style="font-weight: bold;"> <td style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">11</td> <td> San Francisco<small> (from Carolina)</small><small></small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>5-8
</small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>.548</small> </td> </tr> <tr style="font-weight: bold;"> <td>12</td> <td>Pittsburgh<small></small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>6-7 </small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>.486</small> </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: left; font-weight: bold;">13
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;"><small></small><small></small><small></small>San Francisco</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; font-weight: bold;"><small>6-7 </small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>.490</small> </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top;"><small>14</small> </td> <td style="vertical-align: top;"> <small></small>Atlanta
<small></small> </td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small style="font-weight: bold;">6-7</small> </td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small style="font-weight: bold;">.500</small> </td> </tr> <tr style="font-weight: bold;"> <td>15</td> <td><small></small><small></small> <small>Houston</small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>6-7 </small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>.538</small> </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">16
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;"><small></small>Tennessee</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; font-weight: bold;"><small>6-7 </small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>.553</small> </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;"><small>17</small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top;"><small></small> Jacksonville<small></small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; font-weight: bold;"><small>7-6 </small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>.490</small> </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;"><small>18</small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top;"><small>Baltimore</small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top;"> <small>7-6</small>
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; font-weight: bold;"><small>.514 </small></td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top;"><small>19
</small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top;"><small style="font-weight: bold;">New York Jets</small><small>
</small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold; text-align: center;"><small>7-6
</small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small style="font-weight: bold;">.529</small>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top;"><small>20</small>
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">New York Giants </td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>7-6 </small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>.534</small> </td> </tr> <tr style="font-weight: bold;"> <td style="vertical-align: top;">21 </td> <td><small>Miami</small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>7-6 </small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>.543</small> </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top;">22 </td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;"><small></small><small></small>Arizona</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold; text-align: center;"><small>8-5 </small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>.447</small> </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top;"><small>23</small>
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;"><small style="font-weight: bold;">Dallas</small> </td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>8-5</small> </td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>.500</small> </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">24 </td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">Seattle (from Denver)</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold; text-align: center;"><small>8-5 </small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>.514</small> </td> </tr> <tr style="font-weight: bold;"> <td>25</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">New England<small></small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>8-5 </small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>.529</small> </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">26
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;"> <small style="font-weight: bold;">Green Bay</small> </td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; font-weight: bold;"><small>9-4 </small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>.428</small> </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">27
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">Cincinnati<small></small> </td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold; text-align: center;"><small>9-4 </small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small style="font-weight: bold;">.457</small> </td> </tr> <tr style="font-weight: bold;"> <td>28</td> <td><small>Philadelphia</small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>9-4 </small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>.476</small> </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top;"><small style="font-weight: bold;">29</small>
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">San Diego </td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>10-3</small> </td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>.457</small> </td> </tr> <tr style="font-weight: bold;"> <td>30
</td> <td>Minnesota </td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>11-2 </small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>.423</small> </td> </tr> <tr style="font-weight: bold;"> <td style="vertical-align: top;">31
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">New Orleans </td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>13-0</small> </td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>.394</small> </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">32
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">Indianapolis
<small> </small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold; text-align: center;"><small>13-0 </small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center;"><small>.481</small> </td> </tr> </tbody> </table>

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[The Franchise]

St. Louis - Jimmy Clausen
Tampa Bay - Ndamkong Suh
Cleveland - ?????
Detroit - Russell Okung
Kansas City - Eric Berry


Cleveland might take a shot on Berry at 3.....

[Mr. Laz]

ya, you figure St. louis is probably going QB and Tampa bay isn't, they have freeman.

who knows what cleveland and detroit will do

i wish Locker would of entered

[DaneMcCloud]

ya, you figure St. louis is probably going QB and Tampa bay isn't, they have freeman.

who knows what cleveland and detroit will do

i wish Locker would of entered

Locker needs another year in Washington. He'll be more prepared to start for the Chiefs in 2011.

:D

[The Franchise]

ya, you figure St. louis is probably going QB and Tampa bay isn't, they have freeman.

who knows what cleveland and detroit will do

i wish Locker would of entered

Detroit HAS to go offensive line. They opted for the TE in round 1 and it's biting them in the ass right now. Cleveland is the wildcard in all of this.

[Great Expectations]

Clausen < Bradford

[The Franchise]

Clausen < Bradford

ROFL

[RedThat]

At this point, this team sucks so bad BPA is probably best bet. I'd like to see them fix the offensive line, but one thing I definately want to see is this team get a passrusher in here to play next to Hali. Even if they do draft a safety and he ends up becoming good, they still have to address the pass rush. They're giving the quarterbacks too much time to deliver the ball its ridiculous.

[shitgoose]

Cleveland has alot of holes. I could see them taking Berry or someone like Gerald McCoy. They need help at WR, RB, and TE if they go offense. They should take Spiller.

[The Franchise]

At this point, this team sucks so bad BPA is probably best bet. I'd like to see them fix the offensive line, but one thing I definately want to see is this team get a passrusher in here to play next to Hali. Even if they do draft a safety and he ends up becoming good, they still have to address the pass rush. They're giving the quarterbacks too much time to deliver the ball its ridiculous.

The pool of OLB/DE's who can rush the passer is deep. We can easily pick one up in the 2nd round.

[Brock]

Cleveland has alot of holes. I could see them taking Berry or someone like Gerald McCoy. They need help at WR, RB, and TE if they go offense. They should take Spiller.

They already have Josh Cribbs, who possesses a lot of Spiller's skillset already, IMO.

[BigRedChief]

St. Louis - Jimmy Clausen
Tampa Bay - Ndamkong Suh
Cleveland - ?????
Detroit - Russell Okung
Kansas City - Eric Berry


Cleveland might take a shot on Berry at 3.....
No way Berry gets past Cleveland. They need defense and Safety help as bad as we do.

[Mile High Mania]

Gotta love that Bears' record!

[BossChief]

At this point, this team sucks so bad BPA is probably best bet. I'd like to see them fix the offensive line, but one thing I definately want to see is this team get a passrusher in here to play next to Hali. Even if they do draft a safety and he ends up becoming good, they still have to address the pass rush. They're giving the quarterbacks too much time to deliver the ball its ridiculous.

A playmaking safety greatly helps the pass rush. Our nickle corner and safeties are getting targeted consistently and they are a "crutch" to opposing qbs.

Look at how we have lost and you will find that an upgrade to the safety position could greatly improve our defense.

I just wonder if he is smart enough to step right in and make a difference or if he would need a year to get up to speed.

Carr
Flowers
Berry
Morgan/Page

THAT is a VERY good secondary! Give this defense Berry and another passrusher and we will be MUCH improved.

[The Franchise]

No way Berry gets past Cleveland. They need defense and Safety help as bad as we do.

Then honestly.....I don't care if we lose to Cleveland on Sunday.

[Tribal Warfare]

No way Berry gets past Cleveland. They need defense and Safety help as bad as we do.

It all depends who wins next week

[OnTheWarpath15]

San Francisco with 2 picks in the Top 15.

If they don't find a way to fuck it up, the Niners are going to be scary in a year or two.

[The Bad Guy]

San Francisco with 2 picks in the Top 15.

If they don't find a way to **** it up, the Niners are going to be scary in a year or two.

I think they are a scary team already now. I think their defense is just excellent. They don't have a great secondary, but that front 7 is the best in the NFL.

They will likely get Mays and an offensive lineman. I think Alex Smith is starting to mature some. They could go QB, but I doubt it.

[The Bad Guy]

I don't think there's a chance Cleveland takes a safety. The team needs offensive playmakers bad. They aren't committing to Quinn, which means they could take Bradford or Claussen.

Quinn's contract is managable that they could easily take the QB.

[BigRedChief]

It all depends who wins next weekyeah, I was just saying that if Cleveland picks in front of us you can forget about Berry.

[BigRedChief]

I don't think there's a chance Cleveland takes a safety. The team needs offensive playmakers bad. They aren't committing to Quinn, which means they could take Bradford or Claussen.

Quinn's contract is managable that they could easily take the QB.They are in the same situation as us. multiple needs on both sides of the ball.

[DaKCMan AP]

Cleveland could win 2 out of their remaining 3 against KC, Oakland and Jacksonville.

[The Bad Guy]

yeah, I was just saying that if Cleveland picks in front of us you can forget about Berry.

I disagree. They have a ton of needs - actually more than us. They don't have anything besides Rogers on the DL (they might even cut him). Their skill position players are teh worst in the NFL.

[The Bad Guy]

They are in the same situation as us. multiple needs on both sides of the ball.

I think actually they might be in worse shape.

[HotRoute]

San fran getting bradford to fall to them would be scary, even mccoy would help. they need to clean house as far as QBs go, a.smith is as big a bust as j.russel and hill seems to be more of a UFL type player

[The Bad Guy]

San fran getting bradford to fall to them would be scary, even mccoy would help. they need to clean house as far as QBs go, a.smith is as big a bust as j.russel and hill seems to be more of a UFL type player

Alex Smith is lightyears better than JeMarcus Russell. Also, Colt McCoy will never amount to anything at the NFL level.

[BigRedChief]

has a consensus been reached on the Planet? most people want Berry?

[The Franchise]

San fran getting bradford to fall to them would be scary, even mccoy would help. they need to clean house as far as QBs go, a.smith is as big a bust as j.russel and hill seems to be more of a UFL type player

Alex Smith has been playing better than he has in the past. I don't see them taking a QB. And Bradford is fucking horrible.

[BigCatDaddy]

And Bradford is ****ing horrible.

How do you figure? The guy has an amazingly accurate arm. Even this year when he was getting pressured and WR's could catch, he was hitting guys right on the money. He has shown the ability to throw all the passes even to WR's that aren't open by 5 yards despite what our CP draftubators might say. The only question about him is his ability to stay healthy.

[The Franchise]

How do you figure?

He's frail like Croyle.....and he's a fucking spread QB.

[Brock]

Bradford is going to be seen as brittle. He really screwed himself by going back to OU.

[Frankie]

i wish Locker would of entered

If Cassel is good next year we won't need him. If not, chances are we have one of the first dibs at him. I think Locker going back to school is a good scenario for the Chiefs.

[BigCatDaddy]

He's frail like Croyle.....and he's a ****ing spread QB.

Not this spread QB crap again... Facepalm.

[BigCatDaddy]

Bradford is going to be seen as brittle. He really screwed himself by going back to OU.

And he very well might be. He came out of a few games over his career even before the shoulder. This is the reason he drops, but he has a strong and accurate arm.

[Frankie]

Just a dream here, but if not Berry, then would you guys be happy if Okung fell to us and Taylor Mays' stock dropped to early 2nd round? I have a feeling when it's all said and done we will be picking around 3.

[Brock]

Still don't need a LT.

[The Franchise]

Just a dream here, but if not Berry, then would you guys be happy if Okung fell to us and Taylor Mays' stock dropped to early 2nd round? I have a feeling when it's all said and done we will be picking around 3.

No to Okung. If Mays falls to us in the second round....then we better be running up there with the selection card.

[BigCatDaddy]

Just a dream here, but if not Berry, then would you guys be happy if Okung fell to us and Taylor Mays' stock dropped to early 2nd round? I have a feeling when it's all said and done we will be picking around 3.

Not really. I would only go LT if an Ogden or Boselli type LT was there. I don't Okung fits that bill of that great of a prospect.

[Mecca]

There's been a ton of talk of the top 2 and maybe 3 of the top 5 being dline players.

So I would basically say 99% sure that some duo maybe even trio of Suh, McCoy and Dunlap come off the board in the first 5.

[Tribal Warfare]

There's been a ton of talk of the top 2 and maybe 3 of the top 5 being dline players.

So I would basically say 99% sure that some duo maybe even trio of Suh, McCoy and Dunlap come off the board in the first 5.

I'm not sure if Dunlap will declare due to his shitty season this year.

[Mecca]

He should regardless of shitty season or not he's a super high pick either way.

[suds79]

has a consensus been reached on the Planet? most people want Berry?

Seems like for where we are heading yeah.

I'm a fan of Cody from bama but 5 is much too high for him. But this team needs a huge NT that's for sure. I'd feel a lot better about our NT situation if Ron Edwards was our backup.

[Frankie]

Not really. I would only go LT if an Ogden or Boselli type LT was there. I don't Okung fits that bill of that great of a prospect.

Hell I don't mind Okung and Albert side by side at all. Though albert has improved some at LT I still wonder if he wouldn't be a great LG as opposed to a good/adequate LT.

Just a thought anyway.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Hell I don't mind Okung and Albert side by side at all. Though albert has improved some at LT I still wonder if he wouldn't be a great LG as opposed to a good/adequate LT.

Just a thought anyway.

http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/facepalm.gif

Awesome.

Let's take a guy who by all accounts had a damn solid rookie year at LT, then ask him to lose a shit-ton of weight, basically requiring him to re-learn the position - THEN - now that he's way undersized to play on the interior, let's move him there.

And in the meantime, pissing away yet another high draft pick.

Great idea.

[Mecca]

This is not a good OT year, none of those guys are worth top 10 picks. And if you take a big fat 2 down player like Cody in the top 5 you deserve to have a shitty team.

[suds79]

This is not a good OT year, none of those guys are worth top 10 picks. And if you take a big fat 2 down player like Cody in the top 5 you deserve to have a shitty team.

Nobody is saying take Cody at 5.

And yes he is a 2 down player but this team desperately needs a huge NT to man the middle. Yes, those guys will sub out on 3rd and long but this team has to get the opponent there 1st.

Teams can easily gut us up the middle all day long.

Anyways, It's a moot point. We won't and can't take Cody as long as we're drafting 5th.

[cdcox]

Even if both KC and Cleveland end up at 3-13, the Browns will most likely pick before us. Their SOS will probably be weaker than ours by the end of the season, according to my projections.

[Mecca]

Nobody is saying take Cody at 5.

We shouldn't be taking him in general, the hype around that guy is as bad as Tebow's.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Even if both KC and Cleveland end up at 3-13, the Browns will most likely pick before us. Their SOS will probably be weaker than ours by the end of the season, according to my projections.

Well, yeah. They play us. We don't.

ROFL

[Sure-Oz]

Kirk hebstreet had us picking OKUNG

[Cannibal]

If (big if) the Chiefs make a decent draft choice, he might just make a real impact in about 4 years. Whoopie!!!

[Mecca]

ESPN knows our fan base, they just give us an OT every year.

[Sure-Oz]

ESPN knows our fan base, they just give us an OT every year.

I remember last year on draft day them saying we are picking TJ and i was like 'wtf is that'

[googlegoogle]

Washington takes Okungfu.

[suds79]

We shouldn't be taking him in general, the hype around that guy is as bad as Tebow's.

I honestly don't care if it's Cody or not. Certainly he's the most high profile NT in the draft from what it seems.

I just hope this team has a 330+ NT next year otherwise this D will never get much better.

If it's Cody or not, I don't care. We just need to find that guy. Unfortunately, like it's been said, those guys don't grow on trees.

[ModSocks]

Im on the Very Berry Bandwagon. This team needs a playmaker at saftey bad. Hell, any playmaker at the skill positions. Im tired of D-linemen. We need something to get excited about.

If we can't land Berry, then Dez Bryant or reach for Mays. I don't care, just get a damn player who is confident, knows he can make plays on the field, and adds some damn attitude to this team.

[The Bad Guy]

We shouldn't be taking him in general, the hype around that guy is as bad as Tebow's.

Complete nonsense. Where is the hype for Cody?

He is what he is. A huge player with limiitations.

I wouldn't be too dissapointed to take him with our 2nd 2nd round pick.

[The Bad Guy]

the Browns will beat the Raiders with FatMarcus.

[Mr. Laz]

No way Berry gets past Cleveland. They need defense and Safety help as bad as we do.
not trying to be a jerk but everyone said the same thing about Albert,Dorsey,Derrick Johnson ..... it's the nature of Chiefs fans that we anticipate something going wrong.

taking a safety top 5 is a risk

picking a non pass rushing DE last year and then a safety this year is not exactly going the "value" route

just sayin'

[DeezNutz]

Complete nonsense. Where is the hype for Cody?

He is what he is. A huge player with limiitations.

I wouldn't be too dissapointed to take him with our 2nd 2nd round pick.

I agree here.

As crazy as I'd go if we took him in round 1, he is a legit NT prospect and would be great value toward the end of round 2. Hell, he'd be good value anywhere in round 2, actually.

[DeezNutz]

not trying to be a jerk but everyone said the same thing about Albert,Dorsey,Derrick Johnson ..... it's the nature of Chiefs fans that we anticipate something going wrong.

taking a safety top 5 is a risk

picking a non pass rushing DE last year and then a safety this year is not exactly going the "value" route

just sayin'

IIRC, people were going apeshit at the thought of taking Albert at #5.

Dorsey was an outstanding selection.

And Johnson taught us all a valuable lesson. Not really similar to the above.

[Coogs]

If (big if) the Chiefs make a decent draft choice, he might just make a real impact in about 4 years. Whoopie!!!

Which would make Clausen 26 which is right where Aaron Rodgers is right now. I could live with that.

[Mr. Laz]

IIRC, people were going apeshit at the thought of taking Albert at #5.

Dorsey was an outstanding selection.

And Johnson taught us all a valuable lesson. Not really similar to the above.actually i was referring to everyone saying the Dorsey would never fall to us.

Albert will never fall
Derrick Johnson will never fall
Eric Berry will never fall

imo any team is gonna think twice before taking a safety in the top 5.

You better dam sure than you are getting Ed Reed impact before you take a safety that high.

[Direckshun]

St. Louis - Jimmy Clausen
Tampa Bay - Ndamkong Suh
Cleveland - ?????
Detroit - Russell Okung
Kansas City - Eric Berry

Cleveland might take a shot on Berry at 3.....

I would bet that they would.

[Crush]

We can get Boo Robinson to fill our NT need later in the draft.

[HerculesRockefell]

When the draft finally rolls around, I think KC's 2A is going to be sitting pretty for T Cody.

[Direckshun]

We do NOT want Cody.

He is a 2-down player. Plays about 15-20 snaps a game.

I'll sniff Cody if he falls to our 2b. But for now a team with less needs and less at stake will take him towards the bottom of the 1st.

[SDChiefs]

has a consensus been reached on the Planet? most people want Berry?

I would take Berry and be happy but would prefer Mays. I love his size and speed. But I think you can't lose with either.

[suds79]

We can get Boo Robinson to fill our NT need later in the draft.

I hope he's actually about 30-40 lbs heavier than what he's listed at.

Because 295 won't cut it. Am I missing something?

[Mr. Laz]

When the draft finally rolls around, I think KC's 2A is going to be sitting pretty for T Cody.
Cody SHOULD fall into round 2 if not rd 3 or 4.

he's a part-time specialist player

1st and 2nd down IF the other team isn't throwing the ball much.

most teams just can't afford to use a 1st or even a 2nd on such limited production.

[SDChiefs]

We do NOT want Cody.

He is a 2-down player. Plays about 15-20 snaps a game.

I'll sniff Cody if he falls to our 2b. But for now a team with less needs and less at stake will take him towards the bottom of the 1st.

Yes, but with Haleys Hitleresque training camp, whos to say that he won't be in shape to play more?

[DeezNutz]

actually i was referring to everyone saying the Dorsey would never fall to us.

Albert will never fall
Derrick Johnson will never fall
Eric Berry will never fail

imo any team is gonna think twice before taking a safety in the top 5.

You better dam sure than you are getting Ed Reed impact before you take a safety that high.

My bad.

Don't disagree with any of this. Oops in bold?

[suds79]

Yes, but with Haleys Hitleresque training camp, whos to say that he won't be in shape to play more?

Ugh Haley just p!sses me off with that stuff.

He'd probably find a way to slim down Cody down to where he'd be useless as a NT.

I know I'd rather have the heavier 340 Brandon Albert back.

[Mr. Laz]

I would take Berry and be happy but would prefer Mays. I love his size and speed. But I think you can't lose with either.
people are already talking about how Mays is probably better suited to play linebacker in the NFL because he's such a liability in pass coverage.

Dallas had the same problem with Roy williams ... they just couldn't afford to have him on the field because teams would go after him in the passing game.

you don't take a guy without a position in the 1st round.

Mays = 2nd round

[Direckshun]

I hope he's actually about 30-40 lbs heavier than what he's listed at.

Because 295 won't cut it. Am I missing something?

I look at Boo Robinson and I think Darnell Dockett.

[Mr. Laz]

Oops in bold?

ROFL

[Direckshun]

Yes, but with Haleys Hitleresque training camp, whos to say that he won't be in shape to play more?

That's also why I think we won't draft him.

Haley and Pioli want a three-down NT.

[SDChiefs]

people are already talking about how Mays is probably better suited to play linebacker in the NFL because he's such a liability in pass coverage.

Dallas had the same problem with Roy williams ... they just couldn't afford to have him on the field because teams would go after him in the passing game.

you don't take a guy without a position in the 1st round.

Mays = 2nd round

We need LB help too. Can't beat someone who could play both. I highly doubt Mays even sniffs the 2nd rd.

[Direckshun]

people are already talking about how Mays is probably better suited to play linebacker in the NFL because he's such a liability in pass coverage.

Dallas had the same problem with Roy williams ... they just couldn't afford to have him on the field because teams would go after him in the passing game.

you don't take a guy without a position in the 1st round.

Mays = 2nd round

Fail.

A great safety that can cover obscene distance is like a NT that demands two and sometimes three blockers: it frees up the rest of your defense.

Get Morgan and Mays out there and our corners don't have to play so far off the LOS.

[DeezNutz]

That's also why I think we won't draft him.

Haley and Pioli want a three-down NT.

They do? They're concerned about max. impact with high-round selections? Really?

[Mr. Laz]

We need LB help too. Can't beat someone who could play both. I highly doubt Mays even sniffs the 2nd rd.
he probably wont' sniff round 2 but that doesn't mean he shouldn't.

somebody will reach because he is gonna look great in t-shirt and shorts at the combine.

hey, maybe he turns into Brian Urlacher and becomes a great LB but for everyone position switch guy that works out, 50 don't.

can the Chiefs afford the high risk pick like that?

[ModSocks]

We need LB help too. Can't beat someone who could play both. I highly doubt Mays even sniffs the 2nd rd.

I don't know man, I just began doing some better homework on these players, and it seems like Mays is the opposite of what we need. Im starting to flip flop on my earlier thoughts. We need players with ball skills and know how to tackle. Some people are thinking Mays has bust written all over him.

Shit, after watching more of Clausen, im really wishing we didn't sign Cassel to such a retarded contract. He's my #1 right now. Im really digging on Golden Tate too.

[suds79]

That's also why I think we won't draft him.

Haley and Pioli want a three-down NT.

Do they? I think that's a mistake. Got to have that huge guy in the middle.

Anybody here watch Pat games? What's Wilfork do on 3rd down? I've got to imagine he comes off the field.

My guess is Pioli will follow suit.

[beach tribe]

That's also why I think we won't draft him.

Haley and Pioli want a three-down NT.

Wilfork doesn't play every down does he?

[SDChiefs]

he probably wont' sniff round 2 but that doesn't mean he shouldn't.

somebody will reach because he is gonna look great in t-shirt and shorts at the combine.

hey, maybe he turns into Brian Urlacher and becomes a great LB but for everyone position switch guy that works out, 50 don't.

can the Chiefs afford the high risk pick like that?

I personally don't think its a high risk, and I don't think he will have any problem being a Safety in the NFL either. I think taking a 5'9 safety who will probably be shorter come combine is more of a risk. As I have said before though, I would be happy with either and think both are worth whatever risks they present.

[Mr. Laz]

I don't know man, I just began doing some better homework on these players, and it seems like Mays is the opposite of what we need. Im starting to flip flop on my earlier thoughts. We need players with ball skills and know how to tackle. Some people are thinking Mays has bust written all over him.

Shit, after watching more of Clausen, im really wishing we didn't sign Cassel to such a retarded contract. He's my #1 right now. Im really digging on Golden Tate too.
welcome to the dark side, young padawan.

i don't hate Cassel and the trade for him was fine ... signing him to a long term contract was NOT fine.

[Mr. Laz]

I personally don't think its a high risk, and I don't think he will have any problem being a Safety in the NFL either. I think taking a 5'9 safety who will probably be shorter come combine is more of a risk. As I have said before though, I would be happy with either and think both are worth whatever risks they present.
we just disagree about how good Mays is then.

fair enough, bro.

[SDChiefs]

I don't know man, I just began doing some better homework on these players, and it seems like Mays is the opposite of what we need. Im starting to flip flop on my earlier thoughts. We need players with ball skills and know how to tackle. Some people are thinking Mays has bust written all over him.

Shit, after watching more of Clausen, im really wishing we didn't sign Cassel to such a retarded contract. He's my #1 right now. Im really digging on Golden Tate too.

You and me both. Cassel is a bum. I thought he was when we picked him up and was hoping I was wrong. Chock it up to Piolis first major decision=FAIL! Hopefully he cuts his losses and moves on before we have a Jamarcus Russell scenario.

[DrRyan]

I look at Boo Robinson and I think Darnell Dockett.

If Robinson ends up playing like Dockett in a Chiefs uniform I would be ecstatic.

[Chiefnj2]

If Robinson ends up playing like Dockett in a Chiefs uniform I would be ecstatic.

You want to draft him and move him to DE?

[shitgoose]

I wish the draft would just hurry the **** up and get here. There is so much time between now and then I think my head is going to explode with all this draft talk. I know its pretty much gonna go like this so I wish we could just get it over with

Draft Day

- Wake up, eat breakfast, turn on NFL Network, real ****in' excited.
- Call my brother to come over and drink beer
- Watch Raiders **** up there pick and call my friend who is an idiot raiders fan to make fun
- Watch Chiefs reach on 1st pick and get pissed off.
- Drink some beer and hope for better pick in 2nd rd
- Recieve call from idiot raider fan friend making fun and asking me the last time the chiefs won a playoff game
- Get pissed and threaten to fight idiot raider fan friend
- Log onto chiefs planet to witness implosion
- Watch chiefs make shitty picks in 2nd round
- drink some more beer and try to make myself like the picks
- Brother leaves and wife starts getting on my ass about all the empties and me screaming obscenities at the television
- Rewatch KU basketball championship game to make myself feel better
- Get shot down by wifey for coitus
- End terrible day

[DrRyan]

You want to draft him and move him to DE?

Nope. I said playing like Dockett. Dockett is disruptive behind the LOS more often than not. The post I quoted compared Robinson to Dockett. I simply said if Robinson plays like Dockett I would be ecstatic.

[The Franchise]

I wish the draft would just hurry the **** up and get here. There is so much time between now and then I think my head is going to explode with all this draft talk. I know its pretty much gonna go like this so I wish we could just get it over with

Draft Day

- Wake up, eat breakfast, turn on NFL Network, real ****in' excited.
- Call my brother to come over and drink beer
- Watch Raiders **** up there pick and call my friend who is an idiot raiders fan to make fun
- Watch Chiefs reach on 1st pick and get pissed off.
- Drink some beer and hope for better pick in 2nd rd
- Recieve call from idiot raider fan friend making fun and asking me the last time the chiefs won a playoff game
- Get pissed and threaten to fight idiot raider fan friend
- Log onto chiefs planet to witness implosion
- Watch chiefs make shitty picks in 2nd round
- drink some more beer and try to make myself like the picks
- Brother leaves and wife starts getting on my ass about all the empties and me screaming obscenities at the television
- Rewatch KU basketball championship game to make myself feel better
- Get shot down by wifey for coitus
- End terrible day

.

The NFL confirmed reports that the league is considering the idea of starting the 2010 draft in prime time on a Thursday night and making it a three-day event but added that no decision has been made.

The Dallas Morning News reported that the NFL was considering holding the first round of the draft on a Thursday night, the second and third rounds on a Friday night and rounds 4 through 7 on a Saturday. “We think it can be very appealing from a fan’s standpoint and an audience standpoint,” NFL commissioner Roger Goodell said in the story.

NFL spokesman Brian McCarthy posted the same details on his Twitter channel, asking his “followers” to let him know what they thought.

Last year, the NFL shortened the time between first-round picks from 15 minutes to 10 minutes, and this year’s first round took 3:23 — making it the fastest first round since 1990 (when there were four fewer teams in the league).

[HerculesRockefell]

I wish the draft would just hurry the **** up and get here. There is so much time between now and then I think my head is going to explode with all this draft talk. I know its pretty much gonna go like this so I wish we could just get it over with

Draft Day

- Wake up, eat breakfast, turn on NFL Network, real ****in' excited.
- Call my brother to come over and drink beer
- Watch Raiders **** up there pick and call my friend who is an idiot raiders fan to make fun
- Watch Chiefs reach on 1st pick and get pissed off.
- Drink some beer and hope for better pick in 2nd rd
- Recieve call from idiot raider fan friend making fun and asking me the last time the chiefs won a playoff game
- Get pissed and threaten to fight idiot raider fan friend
- Log onto chiefs planet to witness implosion
- Watch chiefs make shitty picks in 2nd round
- drink some more beer and try to make myself like the picks
- Brother leaves and wife starts getting on my ass about all the empties and me screaming obscenities at the television
- Rewatch KU basketball championship game to make myself feel better
- Get shot down by wifey for coitus
- End terrible day

Your order is reversed

[Mecca]

Whoa Whoa Whoa, just because a guy doesn't get a ton of picks doesn't mean he's a bum.

[Mecca]

people are already talking about how Mays is probably better suited to play linebacker in the NFL because he's such a liability in pass coverage.

Dallas had the same problem with Roy williams ... they just couldn't afford to have him on the field because teams would go after him in the passing game.

you don't take a guy without a position in the 1st round.

Mays = 2nd round

Mays sucks so much in coverage he spent 3 years playing cover 1 FS.

Laz-FAIL

[shitgoose]

.

Yeah I remember reading about that. Stupid idea if you ask me

[shitgoose]

Your order is reversed

same difference although it works out better when I get to call him first. I would invite him over but that wouldn't be prudent

[Brock]

Mays isn't the best tackler I've ever seen.

[lostcause]

A good NT would do wonders for this defense.

[BigCatDaddy]

Mays sucks so much in coverage he spent 3 years playing cover 1 FS.

Laz-FAIL


Oh dear god, it's Captain Sav-A-Tro.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Shit, after watching more of Clausen, im really wishing we didn't sign Cassel to such a retarded contract. He's my #1 right now. Im really digging on Golden Tate too.

You and me both. Cassel is a bum. I thought he was when we picked him up and was hoping I was wrong. Chock it up to Piolis first major decision=FAIL! Hopefully he cuts his losses and moves on before we have a Jamarcus Russell scenario.

Must...resist...urge...to bump....Cassel....interview thread....from OTA's....:banghead:

(Adopting Herm's voice)

"But I'm gonna' WAIT"! "I'm gonna' WAIT"!

[The Bad Guy]

I thought the NFL announced that Thursday night would be the first round?

[The Franchise]

I thought the NFL announced that Thursday night would be the first round?

See post #93

['Hamas' Jenkins]

My three year plan:

2010: Berry/Mays
2011: AJ Green/Julio Jones
2012: Blaine Gabbert/Jacory Harris/Matt Barkley

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

My three year plan:

2010: Berry/Mays
2011: AJ Green/Julio Jones
2012: Blaine Gabbert/Jacory Harris/Matt Barkley

Good plan, and there's always exceptions to the rule, but I just don't trust USC anymore.

[Micjones]

Eric Berry with a bullet!

[The Franchise]

My three year plan:

2010: Berry/Mays
2011: AJ Green/Julio Jones
2012: Blaine Gabbert/Jacory Harris/Matt Barkley

My 3 year plan.

2010: Eric Berry, S, Tennessee
2011: Jake Locker, QB, Washington
2012: Malcom Floyd, WR, Notre Dame (If he stays for his senior year)

[The Bad Guy]

See post #93

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8116faa2&template=without-video-with-comments&confirm=true

It's set in stone.


The NFL draft will kick off in prime time for the first time in 2010, it was announced Thursday. The first round of the 2010 NFL Draft will start on Thursday, April 22 at 7:30 p.m. ET, with the second and third rounds on Friday, April 23 at 6:30 p.m. ET, followed by Rounds 4-7 on Saturday, April 24 at 10 a.m. ET.

[DeezNutz]

My three year plan:

2010: Berry/Mays
2011: AJ Green/Julio Jones
2012: Blaine Gabbert/Jacory Harris/Matt Barkley

...thus making a serious run at it in 2014...

Sigh.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

...thus making a serious run at it in 2014...

Sigh.

Better correct, sound, and late than never.

[baitism]

If we got higher and Suh was available, I would go for him. He is a once a decade DT. I just cannot see him being a bust. He is like a man among boys on the football field.

[Coogs]

My 3 year plan.

2010: Eric Berry, S, Tennessee
2011: Jake Locker, QB, Washington
2012: Malcom Floyd, WR, Notre Dame (If he stays for his senior year)

I like your thinking, but we would have to be #1 overall in 2011 to get Locker the way it sounds. That is why I am promoting Clausen this year... and hoping Locker changes his mind. Next year, I hope we are no where near the top of the draft.

[OnTheWarpath15]

If we got higher and Suh was available, I would go for him. He is a once a decade DT. I just cannot see him being a bust. He is like a man among boys on the football field.

Ugh.

It's gotten to the point where someone needs to start a thread clearly explaining that Suh is a goddamn 5 technique in a 34 defense.

[DrRyan]

My three year plan:

2010: Berry/Mays
2011: AJ Green/Julio Jones
2012: Blaine Gabbert/Jacory Harris/Matt Barkley

My 3 year plan.

2010: Eric Berry, S, Tennessee
2011: Jake Locker, QB, Washington
2012: Malcom Floyd, WR, Notre Dame (If he stays for his senior year)

Either way would be fine. It sure would be nice to have a top notch QB. Of the two I think I would prefer getting Locker next year because it would get the young QB "growing pains" out of the way and put the Chiefs closer to contention more quickly(assuming Locker pans out).

I think Gabbert and Barkley both look like they can and will be solid NFL QBs. I have not seen enough of Harris to have an informed opinion of him yet.

[SDChiefs]

Ugh.

It's gotten to the point where someone needs to start a thread clearly explaining that Suh is a goddamn 5 technique in a 34 defense.

I don't think it would do any good.

[bigbucks24]

He's frail like Croyle.....and he's a ****ing spread QB.

You know that Drew Brees was a spread QB, right?

[OnTheWarpath15]

You know that Drew Brees was a spread QB, right?

And 7-2 offsuit will win you a hand occasionally.

There are two spread QB's in the history of the league that have been successful. The odds are overwhelmingly against a spread QB succeeding.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

And 7-2 offsuit will win you a hand occasionally.

There are two spread QB's in the history of the league that have been successful. The odds are overwhelmingly against a spread QB succeeding.

This post makes the Baby Tebow cry.

[baitism]

Ugh.

It's gotten to the point where someone needs to start a thread clearly explaining that Suh is a goddamn 5 technique in a 34 defense.

He could easily play on the other side of the 3-4 from Hali, and be a lot better at it.

[bigbucks24]

And 7-2 offsuit will win you a hand occasionally.

There are two spread QB's in the history of the league that have been successful. The odds are overwhelmingly against a spread QB succeeding.

Well, there is Kyle Orton too.....wait....you win.

[OnTheWarpath15]

He could easily play on the other side of the 3-4 from Hali, and be a lot better at it.

Hold on.

You really think it's a good idea to spend three consecutive Top 5 picks - and over $100M - on guys that play a comlementary position?

[Mr. Laz]

You know that Drew Brees was a spread QB, right?
you know that Brady is basically a spread QB

[OnTheWarpath15]

you know that Brady is basically a spread QB

Brady played in the spread at Michigan?

[bigbucks24]

you know that Brady is basically a spread QB

So New England ran the spread last year? So basically what you are saying is that the spread offense inflates the stats and possibly the value of a QB. And their value can't be accurately evaluated based on their time in the spread (like last year)? If that is true, no one in their right mind would ever trade a 2nd round pick for a spread QB and give him $61MM. That would be insane.

[Mr. Laz]

Brady played in the spread at Michigan?
Brady is enjoying most of his Hall of fame success in the pros running a spread.

[Mr. Laz]

So New England ran the spread last year? So basically what you are saying is that the spread offense inflates the stats and possibly the value of a QB. And their value can't be accurately evaluated based on their time in the spread (like last year)? If that is true, no one in their right mind would ever trade a 2nd round pick for a spread QB and give him $61MM. That would be insane.
well ... yes

or you better be prepared to run the same system he enjoyed the success in so that you get your money's worth.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Brady is enjoying most of his Hall of fame success in the pros running a spread.

And the conversation you felt compelled to chime in on was referring to DRAFTING a spread QB - and understanding how they are at a disadvantage making the adjustment into the pros.

[Mr. Laz]

And the conversation you felt compelled to chime in on was referring to DRAFTING a spread QB - and understanding how they are at a disadvantage making the adjustment into the pros.
actually i responded to BigBucks ... not you.

[bigbucks24]

well ... yes

or you better be prepared to run the same system he enjoyed the success in so that you get your money's worth.

So it would be even more insane (is there such a phrase?) to trade for a spread QB, pay him $61MM and then ask him to work out of a pro style offense?

[baitism]

Hold on.

You really think it's a good idea to spend three consecutive Top 5 picks - and over $100M - on guys that play a comlementary position?

When you have as many holes as the Chiefs you draft BPA. For once it could be in a position that we need (unlike our reaches the last two seasons).

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

So it would be even more insane (is there such a phrase?) to trade for a spread QB, pay him $61MM and then ask him to work out of a pro style offense?

Yes. That's why Gimpy works out the shotgun.

[OnTheWarpath15]

When you have as many holes as the Chiefs you draft BPA. For once it could be in a position that we need (unlike our reaches the last two seasons).

:facepalm:

[Mr. Laz]

So it would be even more insane (is there such a phrase?) to trade for a spread QB, pay him $61MM and then ask him to work out of a pro style offense?
yes ... at the least considered very reckless.

Be it the draft or free agency, watching a player perform in one system and then expecting him to succeed in another is risky at best.

[The Bad Guy]

When you have as many holes as the Chiefs you draft BPA. For once it could be in a position that we need (unlike our reaches the last two seasons).

Thanks Matt Millen.

[The Bad Guy]

When you have as many holes as the Chiefs you draft BPA. For once it could be in a position that we need (unlike our reaches the last two seasons).

And Dorsey was a reach?

Are you retarded?

[Mr. Laz]

complimentary

[baitism]

And Dorsey was a reach?

Are you retarded?

Dorsey wasn't a reach, but we have a bad habit of doing it. Tyson Jackson and Ryan Sims were ridiculous reaches...

[DeezNutz]

He could easily play on the other side of the 3-4 from Hali, and be a lot better at it.

Suh as a 34 OLB? Are you serious?

DT Suh, who could play DE in the 34, is now a possible OLB?

[DeezNutz]

Tyson Jackson and Ryan Sims were ridiculous reaches...

Yes. And, unfortunately, no. Just a shitty pick.

But the biggest poison that's ever been championed was in charge at the time, so this should come as no surprise.

[KurtCobain]

We should've picked Ryan Succop with our first pick.

[DumbHillbillies]

Gotta love that Bears' record!

:doh!: R u going to do this every mock draft/draft order.

[Chiefnj2]

Dorsey wasn't a reach, but we have a bad habit of doing it. Tyson Jackson and Ryan Sims were ridiculous reaches...

Ryan Sims was not a reach. A reach is someone that you take that would have been available later in the draft. The Vikings were late in getting their draft slip up to the podium - they too wanted Sims.

[Frankie]

http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/facepalm.gif

Awesome.

Let's take a guy who by all accounts had a damn solid rookie year at LT, then ask him to lose a shit-ton of weight, basically requiring him to re-learn the position - THEN - now that he's way undersized to play on the interior, let's move him there.

And in the meantime, pissing away yet another high draft pick.

Great idea.

Take a cold shower dude. There are MANY who think Albert is more a LG than a LT. I don't necessarily subscribe to either side,. There is something undeniable right before our eyes. His "solid" rookie season sure turned somewhat mushy in his 2nd year. He can perhaps become "solid" again, but will he ever be great at that position?

And what is this "re-learn" BS? He WAS a LG in college who only played LT one year because their real LT was out of commission.

[philfree]

Ryan Sims was not a reach. A reach is someone that you take that would have been available later in the draft. The Vikings were late in getting their draft slip up to the podium - they too wanted Sims.

Even when we win we lose. Who would have we drafted if Simms was off the board? We should ahve tripped.

PhilFree:arrow:

[Mr. Laz]

if we take Suh then we need to play alot more 4-3

Hali
Suh
Dorsey
Jackson

i'm not saying we should take him but if we do that would be the result.

Right now our Dline is so fugged up

it's like some cosmic joke ... we take the Best Ranked Player Available in the draft and he sucks. We reach and he sucks. We need Oline and it's strong Dline draft. We need Dline and it's a strong Oline draft.

the universe hates us. :sulk:

[lostcause]

Ryan Sims was not a reach. A reach is someone that you take that would have been available later in the draft. The Vikings were late in getting their draft slip up to the podium - they too wanted Sims.

Sims was a reach. He somehow flew up the draft boards post season and got credit for Julius Peppers godlike year. The teams that bought into this pretense were stupid.

[DeezNutz]

Take a cold shower dude. There are MANY who think Albert is more a LG than a LT. I don't necessarily subscribe to either side,. There is something undeniable right before our eyes. His "solid" rookie season sure turned somewhat mushy in his 2nd year. He can perhaps become "solid" again, but will he ever be great at that position?

And what is this "re-learn" BS? He WAS a LG in college who only played LT one year because their real LT was out of commission.

Who could have thunk that a LT might have problems after dropping considerable weight and currently playing too light?

What collection of fucking dipshits would have possibly have *wanted* a player to lose this much weight? And then bragged about the overall weight loss of the team?

And there aren't any posters on this forum who laughed at this "positive" development at the time and said it was the prelude to disaster, since legit teams don't harp on artificial numbers.

[Brock]

Sims was a reach. He somehow flew up the draft boards post season and got credit for Julius Peppers godlike year. The teams that bought into this pretense were stupid.

Ryan Sims would have been a top 10 pick no matter what teams were picking in the top 10.

[Red Dawg]

This team loses the battle in the trenches on a weekly basis. Give me Codys big ass. It's not sexy but it will improve our pass rush by other players.

[Chiefnj2]

Sims was a reach. He somehow flew up the draft boards post season and got credit for Julius Peppers godlike year. The teams that bought into this pretense were stupid.

Sims was very productive in college (Three-year starter who appeared in 43 games with 33 starts at North Carolina... Finished his college career with 167 tackles, 14.0 sacks, 11 passes defensed, 40 quarterback pressures and one fumble recovery), plus he played very well during Senior Bowl week. He wasn't just a workout warrior at the combine.

[The Bad Guy]

He could easily play on the other side of the 3-4 from Hali, and be a lot better at it.

Do you have a set of eyes?

[OnTheWarpath15]

Do you have a set of eyes?

ROFL

[Mr. Laz]

This team loses the battle in the trenches on a weekly basis. Give me Codys big ass. It's not sexy but it will improve our pass rush by other players.
except for the fact that teams don't have to double team Cody on passing downs so it won't help our pass rush.

[SDChiefs]

So New England ran the spread last year? So basically what you are saying is that the spread offense inflates the stats and possibly the value of a QB. And their value can't be accurately evaluated based on their time in the spread (like last year)? If that is true, no one in their right mind would ever trade a 2nd round pick for a spread QB and give him $61MM. That would be insane.

$63MM. Im just saying.

[Frankie]

Who could have thunk that a LT might have problems after dropping considerable weight and currently playing too light?

I do not disagree with that at all. All i'm saying is his play at LT (albeit after the weight loss) leaves a lot to be desired. Don't get me wrong, I'm a fan of his. But I do think MAYBE if we switched him to LG and got ourselves a future great LT we might end up with an awesome left side of the Oline for a decade.

[Mr. Laz]

$63MM. Im just saying.
how much of the 63 million is guaranteed?

[Frankie]

Ryan Sims would have been a top 10 pick no matter what teams were picking in the top 10.

Didn't we beat the Vikes to the podium with our pick for him?

[Frankie]

This team loses the battle in the trenches on a weekly basis. Give me Codys big ass. It's not sexy but it will improve our pass rush by other players.

PREVERT!!!!

[Mecca]

I really don't want to see a LT pimp again, none of those guys are worth top 10 picks.

[Mr. Laz]

I do not disagree with that at all. All i'm saying is his play at LT (albeit after the weight loss) leaves a lot to be desired. Don't get me wrong, I'm a fan of his. But I do think MAYBE if we switched him to LG and got ourselves a future great LT we might end up with an awesome left side of the Oline for a decade.
i'm disagreeing

we've played 10 games this season ... the weight excuse stop being viable after about 3 games imo

preseason 4 games (albeit only 1 quarter playing time per)
3 games of full play

getting over the weight bullshit


now changing the technique and offensive blocking scheme is a much more viable reason to look at. But just like a spread quarterback, if Albert can only handle one blocking scheme type then it's a problem.

[ModSocks]

I wish the draft would just hurry the **** up and get here. There is so much time between now and then I think my head is going to explode with all this draft talk. I know its pretty much gonna go like this so I wish we could just get it over with

Draft Day

- Wake up, eat breakfast, turn on NFL Network, real ****in' excited.
- Call my brother to come over and drink beer
- Watch Raiders **** up there pick and call my friend who is an idiot raiders fan to make fun
- Watch Chiefs reach on 1st pick and get pissed off.
- Drink some beer and hope for better pick in 2nd rd
- Recieve call from idiot raider fan friend making fun and asking me the last time the chiefs won a playoff game
- Get pissed and threaten to fight idiot raider fan friend
- Log onto chiefs planet to witness implosion
- Watch chiefs make shitty picks in 2nd round
- drink some more beer and try to make myself like the picks
- Brother leaves and wife starts getting on my ass about all the empties and me screaming obscenities at the television
- Rewatch KU basketball championship game to make myself feel better
- Get shot down by wifey for coitus
- End terrible day

Very similar to every Sunday during football season huh?

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

This team loses the battle in the trenches on a weekly basis. Give me Codys big ass. It's not sexy but it will improve our pass rush by other players.


OMG I'M EVERY DUMBASS FAN PLEASE PLEASE GIVE ME O-LINE AND OVERPAY MILLIONS AND I WILL NEVER STOP CALLING FOR O-LINE ON DRAFT DAY AND 2 + 2 = JELLO TO THE ELEVENTYSHIP WHERE I WATCH RERUNS OF LIFE GOES ON BECAUSE CORKY IS MY IDOL FTW!!!!!!!!!!!@

[DeezNutz]

i'm disagreeing

we've played 10 games this season ... the weight excuse stop being viable after about 3 games imo

preseason 4 games (albeit only 1 quarter playing time per)
3 games of full play

getting over the weight bullshit


now changing the technique and offensive blocking scheme is a much more viable reason to look at. But just like a spread quarterback, if Albert can only handle one blocking scheme type then it's a problem.

3 games? And you've arrived at this number how?

He's too light to play the position. It's not something that can be discounted, and it's a huge hurdle for a second-year player to overcome.

[Mr. Laz]

3 games? And you've arrived at this number how?

He's too light to play the position. It's not something that can be discounted, and it's a huge hurdle for a second-year player to overcome.3 games + 4 quarters from the preseason

4 games or 1/4 of a season is enough imo


He's too light to play the position?

albert 310
matt light 305
jake long 317
eugene monroe 320
michael oher 309
joe staley 315
joe thomas 312
tre thomas 317
ton ugoh 301
vollmer 315 (and the dude is 6'8" so he's not thicker)

[SDChiefs]

how much of the 63 million is guaranteed?

I heard over 30

[philfree]

I heard over 30

I thought it was $28mil guaranteed but I ain't fo sho.

PhilFree:arrow:

[Mr. Laz]

giving Cassel a contract at the beginning of the year was stupid ... why not wait until you see what happens?

i figure that was Clark ... he didn't want to pay Cassel 14 million for 1 year when he could guarantee 28 million and lock him up for 6 years.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

giving Cassel a contract at the beginning of the year was stupid ... why not wait until you see what happens?

i figure that was Clark ... he didn't want to pay Cassel 14 million for 1 year when he could guarantee 28 million and lock him up for 6 years.

How do you figure that was Clark when Pioli has complete control over football operations?

[DeezNutz]

3 games + 4 quarters from the preseason

4 games or 1/4 of a season is enough imo


He's too light to play the position?

albert 310
matt light 305
jake long 317
eugene monroe 320
michael oher 309
joe staley 315
joe thomas 312
tre thomas 317
ton ugoh 301
vollmer 315 (and the dude is 6'8" so he's not thicker)

Grunhard was on 810 a week or two ago and was arguing that Albert was actually closer to 300 pounds. Too light. Said that an NFL LT needed to be at around 315.

[niochief]

THKS