I am officially actively rooting against the Colts

[Hootie]

from here on out...

This is so fucking stupid it just boggles my mind.

Fuck the Colts. I hope they lose in the 2nd round.

[Hootie]

this is where bad coaching gets you...

I hope they get SMOKED in the playoffs...

that fucking organization never deserved Peyton Manning

[Pioli Zombie]

Is Manning your Gay lover or something?
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[notorious]

Damn Hootie, did someone piss in your Cheerios instead of on you?

[Hootie]

good...the entire home crowd is against them now

they LITERALLY just handed the Jets a victory...

you've got to be fucking kidding me

[Hootie]

no...

i have the colts in a pick'em and i could have turned $200 into $1100 because I am literally 6 for 6 right now...

this is so fucking stupid

[Pioli Zombie]

Hootie thinks Brad Gradkowski could do what Tom Brady does. Hootie is a football super genius.
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[007]

Did Manning have a close call or something? There has to be a reason why they felt it was time to pull him.

[Hootie]

keep fucking booing...

THIS IS PURE INSANITY...

I CAN'T WAIT UNTIL THEY LOSE IN THE PLAYOFFS.

[unothadeal]

no...

i have the colts in a pick'em and i could have turned $200 into $1100 because I am literally 6 for 6 right now...

this is so fucking stupid

GL!

[notorious]

no...

i have the colts in a pick'em and i could have turned $200 into $1100 because I am literally 6 for 6 right now...

this is so ****ing stupid

I understand.

[Hootie]

Did Manning have a close call or something? There has to be a reason why they felt it was time to pull him.

he has yet to take a hit...one fucking hit this game...

and he was two overthrows away from having two huge TD's in the first half...

this is pure insanity

[Pioli Zombie]

no...

i have the colts in a pick'em and i could have turned $200 into $1100 because I am literally 6 for 6 right now...

this is so fucking stupid
Ok now I understand. Its about money. good. I hope the Jets win now.
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[007]

Samual!!!!!!!

[Brock]

Couldn't have happened to a more deserving soul.

[Hootie]

you will never see me root for the colts again with this idiot fucking coaching staff of dungy fucking leftovers...

pure lunacy...

can't wait until the chargers beat them by 20 points

[vailpass]

One of my roomates in grad school was a gambler. He absolutely sucked to watch games with because of stuff like this. It got so we left him to watch alone.

[Hootie]

don't care about the money now...just pure hate for this idiot...

would Bill Belichick ever do something like this?

It's pure Dungy/Herm hate...

That is it.

Pure pussy ass football that deserves an unhappy ending.

Hope they lose in round 2...

Rest Addai...rest your defense...but Peyton/Reggie and Clark aren't going to get fucking hurt...

Shit...they rested their starting LT and Peyton had yet to take a single fucking hit.

[RJ]

Keep fucking doubting Curtis painter!

[Bane]

Keep ****ing doubting Curtis painter!

He's no Matt Moore thats for sure.ROFL

[Hootie]

23 straight wins...a perfect season on the line...

and you don't go for it?

or you go for it for 40 minutes and then put in Painter and give the Jets a free 8 points!

Genius.

If you are going to do this pussy ass shit start Peyton for a series and take him out...

OMG if I was a season ticket holder...

[luv]

he has yet to take a hit...one fucking hit this game...

and he was two overthrows away from having two huge TD's in the first half...

this is pure insanity

In the other thread, you were using this as a positive.

[Hootie]

In the other thread, you were using this as a positive.

how am I not using it as a positive in this thread idiot?

[Pioli Zombie]

In all seriousness, what smells about all this is that the Jets are in with a win today and next week. This really hurts a lot of 8-7 teams competing with the Jets. One could get crazy and say a lot people benefit by the NY team making the playoffs. Goodell might get a few questions about this type of crap although what can you really do?? I do feel sorry for a lot of Colts fans who this meant a lot too.
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[dirk digler]

I am not going to root against them but Caldwell deserves to be fired. This is absolutely the worst coaching decision I have ever witnessed in the NFL. It is not like you get a chance to go undefeated in the NFL every year.

[Brock]

ROFL

[Hootie]

if they put Manning back in NOW...the coaching staff is even dumber than I fucking thought

[Hootie]

if they put him in...

why?

they took him out with the Colts on their 10...up by ONLY 5...

put him in now to try and get the lead again?

Why the fuck take him out in the first place?

Jesus...my high might explode if he goes back in.

[Basileus777]

They must be terrified of what happened to the Patriots. But this isn't going to make all the pressure go away.

[chiefbowe82]

stupid to take him out, they have a first round bye anyway. there is such a thing called overresting. don't look for indy in the superbowl

[Hootie]

omg this crowd is cracking me up

[Pioli Zombie]

Caldwell just took Belichick off the hook if the Colts lose. Do you think Olbermann,Patrick,Costas,Dungy and Harrison might be talking about this a little tonight??? Holy Shit. The more I think about this the worse it is.
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[RJ]

In all seriousness, what smells about all this is that the Jets are in with a win today and next week. This really hurts a lot of 8-7 teams competing with the Jets. One could get crazy and say a lot people benefit by the NY team making the playoffs. Goodell might get a few questions about this type of crap although what can you really do?? I do feel sorry for a lot of Colts fans who this meant a lot too.
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Coming from a Ravens fan, it sure looked like the NFL wanted to see the Steelers win today. Of course the Ravens having the lowest team IQ in the league made that job a lot easier.

[Hootie]

talk about ruining a player...I feel terrible for Painter...this is some of the worst coaching I've ever seen

[luv]

how am I not using it as a positive in this thread idiot?

Misread your post. I'll let you continue ranting and raving.

[dirk digler]

Add in the fact they just gave the Jets a win and maybe a playoff berth

[Hootie]

shit...

if the colts lose in the playoffs this year...

that would be enough for me as a player to lose ALL faith in their fucking coach

[Gadzooks]

In all seriousness, what smells about all this is that the Jets are in with a win today and next week. This really hurts a lot of 8-7 teams competing with the Jets. One could get crazy and say a lot people benefit by the NY team making the playoffs. Goodell might get a few questions about this type of crap although what can you really do?? I do feel sorry for a lot of Colts fans who this meant a lot too.
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Interesting theory...
BTW - There's no way the Colts make it past the AFC Championship game.

[Hootie]

no flag?

LMFAO

[Hootie]

omg this is fucking funny...

can't wait to watch sportscenter all week...

if I was a colts player...I'd be fucking pissed...

If I was a colts fan...I'd be WAY more fucking pissed...

[Pioli Zombie]

You don't do this to your fans. Go into the second half of the 15th game amd THEN decide you don't want to go for it. It certainly is unfair to Baltimore,Pittsburgh,Denver,and Houston.
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[Basileus777]

I'm glad the Colts did this though. This team doesn't deserve to go down in history, if they went 16-0 it wouldn't do anything other than devalue the achievement of going undefeated.

[Hootie]

like I said...

if you want to do this shit...

play them for a series...

play to win for 40 minutes and then pull everyone?

what the fuck is that shit?

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

I hope Sanchez puts "liquid heat" in Mannings jock at the 1/2.

"Ooooh, rooks rike salad"!

http://thumbnails.hulu.com/9/986/32408_512x288_generated__ib8hgY-nuUOYrMwYSp+fdA.jpg

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd114/besh1/takashi1.jpg

[Hootie]

i almost have to side with the new york conspiracy theory...

that's the only thing that makes sense and even that is weak as hell...

the dungy tree is the dumbest fucking coaching tree in NFL history

[Jerm]

If I was an Indy fan and paid for this, I'd be uber pissed.

Be thinking I didn't pay to see Curtis fucking Painter.

Caldwell is a fucking moron.
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[Brock]

16-0 doesn't mean shit if you don't win the super bowl.

[Basileus777]

Peyton never should have agreed to this. There's no way they could have ever benched him without his consent.

[luv]

16-0 doesn't mean shit if you don't win the super bowl.

Like they would have, anyway.

[Hootie]

look

if they are going to rest their players...you make it known...and then you don't play to win for 40 minutes...and then turn the 14-0 colts to a rookie with a 5 point lead with 5 minutes left in the 3rd quarter...

that kid is ruined...his home team has booed the living shit out of him and he looks like he wants to off himself...scared out of his mind...

he's frightened silly

[Pioli Zombie]

like I said...

if you want to do this shit...

play them for a series...

play to win for 40 minutes and then pull everyone?

what the fuck is that shit?
This is going to really drive a wedge between Manning and Caldwell. Manning is competitive enough he wanted to do what Brady couldn't and go 19-0. And now forever and forever the Colts and their fans will have to live with the "what ifs". For NOTHING.
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[Basileus777]

Resting your starters in week 16 is worthless. See the Colts past history. The only reason to do this is if you want to lose so that you don't have to deal with the pressure of going undefeated.

[Hootie]

16-0 doesn't mean shit if you don't win the super bowl.

well they better win now or Caldwell is going to lose half of his fucking team...and this will ALWAYS be second guessed...

he's put an INFINITE amount more of pressure on this team now that he's pulled this chicken shit move

[Hootie]

Resting your starters in week 16 is worthless. See the Colts past history. The only reason to do this is if you want to lose so that you don't have to deal with the pressure of going undefeated.

you think that's pressure?

the real pressure begins now...

this will be second guessed right up until the Chargers beat them in the playoffs and then it will EXPLODE...

if they don't win the super bowl NOW...fireworks are going to be on display

[Basileus777]

you think that's pressure?

the real pressure begins now...

this will be second guessed right up until the Chargers beat them in the playoffs and then it will EXPLODE...

if they don't win the super bowl NOW...fireworks are going to be on display

I completely agree with you. But something tells me that if the Pats beat the Giants in the Superbowl, Peyton is still playing right now.

[Bearcat]

Overreact much? LMAO

[Pioli Zombie]

If they lose I am really interested in seeing what
Dungy says. If Dungy is critical of it then Caldwell is fucked in that town.
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[Hootie]

i would be so salty if I were a colts fan...

this has the vegas fix all over it...

sharks were all over the jets this week

ALL OVER THEM

i wonder if this were colts/jags this week if this shit would have happened

[Jerm]

Caldwell has effectively turned an entire fanbase and more than a likely a majority of his players against him with one stupid decision.

Congrats.
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[Hootie]

If they lose I am really interested in seeing what
Dungy says. If Dungy is critical of it then Caldwell is ****ed in that town.
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he won't be..

but he's a fucking moron...

this puts so much pressure on the colts now...they didn't think this through..

if they thought it was super bowl or bust before...

peyton is the face of that franchise...

i wouldn't stand for it if I were him...

if the coaching staff fucks them in the playoffs I hope he calls them on it

[Bane]

Like they would have, anyway.

ROFL

[Hootie]

oh and don't forget about Curtis Painter...

he's ruined that kids professional career...

75,000 irate fans booing every time he takes a snap or comes on to the field....

You've got to be kidding me

[007]

i would be so salty if I were a colts fan...

this has the vegas fix all over it...

sharks were all over the jets this week

ALL OVER THEM

i wonder if this were colts/jags this week if this shit would have happenedJust wait for the mob hit.

[wild1]

It's impossible to feel sorry for gamblers when they lose.

[Hootie]

and it's against the Jets...

if I were one of those 8-7 teams...

oh man...

I'd be livid...call out the Colts...the NFL...everything...

this is some major bullshit that fucks 1/2 the fucking AFC

[Pioli Zombie]

I'll say this. At least the Patriots gave it their shot. They had a chance to go 19-0 and they just didn't do it. But at least they had their chance. I would actually feel sorry for the Colts and their fans if their chance to see if they could do it was taken away by an idiot coach and Don Shula popped champagne this way and New York fans got a playoff berth this way. Hopefully Manning will choke Caldwell, go back in, and save a lot of people a lot of grief by going in and winning. Of course Caldwell will still have proven himself to be an idiot.
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[Hootie]

It's impossible to feel sorry for gamblers when they lose.

I crushed the Chargers game Friday...I don't give a shit about this...it was an 8 team teaser that I was just fucking around with....

I might end up losing the Philly portion of it too...

it was a fun luxury bet...don't give a shit...

[Hootie]

I'll say this. At least the Patriots gave it their shot. They had a chance to go 19-0 and they just didn't do it. But at least they had their chance. I would actually feel sorry for the Colts and their fans if their chance to see if they could do it was taken away by an idiot coach and Don Shula popped champagne this way and New York fans got a playoff berth this way. Hopefully Manning will choke Caldwell, go back in, and save a lot of people a lot of grief by going in and winning. Of course Caldwell will still have proven himself to be an idiot.
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the whole Dungy tree sucks...

they are AWFUL...

they play old school football in a league where that shit doesn't fly anymore

there is something really fishy about this whole thing...

it has Vegas all over it

[luv]

I crushed the Chargers game Friday...I don't give a shit about this...it was an 8 team teaser that I was just fucking around with....

I might end up losing the Philly portion of it too...

it was a fun luxury bet...don't give a shit...

I'd be pissed if I missed out on $1100.

[007]

Hell, I can't stand the Colts and this upsets even me. As fan this is utter bullshit.

[Terribilis]

Part of me feels slightly bad for the person I am playing against in my Fantasy football championship, he only has Wayne left, and down 2 points

[Mecca]

The Colts are stupid end of story.

They had a passive coach and replaced him with another one...

This is why they'll lose to the Chargers again.

[Pioli Zombie]

the whole Dungy tree sucks...

they are AWFUL...

they play old school football in a league where that shit doesn't fly anymore

there is something really fishy about this whole thing...

it has Vegas all over it

They are KILLING Caldwell on Football in America. You are right. This smells to high heaven.
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[Hootie]

I'd be pissed if I missed out on $1100.

I lost $200 on the day...and I won over double that teasing the Chargers game...

what I'm pissed about is the way I lose this teaser...Herm Edwards indirectly fucked me in the ass once again...

and as a Peyton Manning fan...I feel bad that he has to...NOT ONLY do everything for his fucking team...but he also has to do it with an inferior coaching staff every fucking year...

You're telling me when it is 15-10...you get the Jets to punt...in the 3rd quarter...you don't give Peyton Manning another drive to see if you can get one more TD to lock up the game?

That's what he is FAMOUS for...

the dude has been in the league 12 years and has never been remotely close to missing a game due to an injury...

It just doesn't happen...

So why pull him there?

Easy.

The NFL wants the Jets in the playoffs...

[kstater]

Oh noes, they're going to lose literally a meaningless game.

[Hootie]

and there was WAY more money on the Jets than the Colts

[dirk digler]

Of course Tony disagrees dumbass.

[007]

Dungy is an idiot. But we already knew that.

[dirk digler]

He handpicked that loser as a coach. Fucking idiots

[Hootie]

if it made sense when they pulled him...

if they pulled him at half...

if they pulled him after a series...

if they pulled him after he threw a pick...

if they pulled him after he took a nasty sack...

but pulling him with a 5 point lead when they just forced a punt that was inside their 20...with 5 minutes left in the 3rd when your team is 14-0 and the Jets literally had no answer or pass rush to stop him...

the only thing that stopped him in the 1st half was him overthrowing his receivers by the slightest of margins...

I'm sorry...this move REEKS of conspiracy...

kind of like that Steelers TD last year where they clearly scored a meaningless TD at the end of the game but the official...for no reason...waived it off...ended the game...didn't review it...and the steelers won by 1 rather than 7 when the line was 6...

[Mecca]

Someone should say to Tony Dungy, of course you don't agree you always did this too and it's why you only got 1 SB out of the one of the greatest QB's ever, smooth coaching job man.

[Hootie]

the public had HEAVY money on the colts...

just so you know

reminds me of that steelers play last year

[HMc]

Easy.

The NFL wants the Jets in the playoffs...

If that's all so damn obvious, why didn't you bet on the jets?

[007]

There is no way Manning is "on board" with this.

[Hootie]

If that's all so damn obvious, why didn't you bet on the jets?

well if you watched the game you saw who the superior team was...the colts should have had a 21-0 halftime lead...

i made the bet at the beginning of the week because the colts were only favored by 3 AT home against Mark Sanchez...

I wanted to get the line low in case it moved up by Sunday...or in case they took it offline...

if I would have waited until Sunday (as I did with a lot of my bets) I wouldn't have touched the game...as I told my roommate that the only game I was worried about today was my Colts (+3) bet (on a tease) because there were too many questions...

and then as I watched the game unfold...

there are too many fucking question marks now...

tell me you haven't forgotten that Steelers defensive TD last year...the game was over...they were up by 1...the last play of the game Polamalu recovered a fumble and scored a meaningless TD...clear as day...but then for some reason the official waived it off, gave no explanation, ran off the field, and offered no review and the Steelers won by 1...

the line was 6

Hmmm?

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

ROFLROFLROFL

Just saw the final score.

[Mecca]

You know what team I bet is super thrilled right now?

The Texans this completely fucks them.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

The Colts got "Sanchized". I love football.

[dirk digler]

You know what team I bet is super thrilled right now?

The Texans this completely fucks them.

I bet Kubiak is packing his things as we speak

I know the NFL won't get involved but they should. Fines or suspension or something.

Looks like the Jets just leapfrogged the Ravens which is complete BS

[Hootie]

If I were Kubiak...

There is no way I wouldn't question this in my press conference...

The timing of the Manning pulling is WAY TOO fishy...

makes me question every fucking sporting event I ever watch...

so sick

[Mecca]

If the Jets win next week they're in, the Colts basically laid down to let them in.

[ChiefsCountry]

You know what team I bet is super thrilled right now?

The Texans this completely ****s them.

They are playing New England, they are fucked anyway.

[Hootie]

if this were the Chiefs...

and we were 14-0...

and this happened...

I don't think I would ever get over it...

[dirk digler]

If the Jets win next week they're in, the Colts basically laid down to let them in.

yep

[Mecca]

It's pretty sad how the Colts basically lost on purpose when they could have gone undefeated.

It'll come back to bite then when San Diego beats them yet again.

[Pioli Zombie]

A lot of teams and fans got totally screwed by this move. And like I said, at least the Patriots had their shot. The Saints had their shot. The Colts gave it away. I feel bad for their fans.
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[wild1]

Who cares? The game is meaningless to the Colts. If anything, they'd much rather see the Jets make the playoffs than Baltimore, so it is to their advantage to lose in this situation anyway.

[Hootie]

It's pretty sad how the Colts basically lost on purpose when they could have gone undefeated.

It'll come back to bite then when San Diego beats them yet again.

It'll be even worse now...

The pressure is definitely on...

the only way the Colts fan base is going to forgive Caldwell is if they win a Super Bowl...

that will be a temporary band-aid at least

[Jerm]

I hope Indy goes 15-1 and then loses in the Divisional Round lol.

Caldwell = EPIC FAIL
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[Basileus777]

It's pretty sad how the Colts basically lost on purpose when they could have gone undefeated.

It'll come back to bite then when San Diego beats them yet again.

The Colts are just pussies, they got scared and didn't want to deal with the pressure. Shit like this is why they choke in the playoffs.

[dirk digler]

Who cares? The game is meaningless to the Colts. If anything, they'd much rather see the Jets make the playoffs than Baltimore, so it is to their advantage to lose in this situation anyway.

If that was the case they never should have dressed Manning or any of their other starters.

To pull him while up 15-10 is complete and utter BS.

[ChiefsCountry]

Sanchez has now beaten Brady and Manning the first time he has faced them. hehe.

[notorious]

if they win a Super Bowl...



Easier said then done.

[Hootie]

Who cares? The game is meaningless to the Colts. If anything, they'd much rather see the Jets make the playoffs than Baltimore, so it is to their advantage to lose in this situation anyway.

this loss puts more pressure on them to win...

at least if they did lose (like New England) they could have played the "we went for it and came up short" card...

now when they lose everyone will ALWAYS question this game...

and this is a highly unlikely scenario...

but I hope the Jets get in...and they can beat the Bengals...and then that will set them up against Indy...

and I hope they beat the FUCK out of Indy.

[kstater]

if it made sense when they pulled him...

if they pulled him at half...

if they pulled him after a series...

if they pulled him after he threw a pick...

if they pulled him after he took a nasty sack...

but pulling him with a 5 point lead when they just forced a punt that was inside their 20...with 5 minutes left in the 3rd when your team is 14-0 and the Jets literally had no answer or pass rush to stop him...

the only thing that stopped him in the 1st half was him overthrowing his receivers by the slightest of margins...

I'm sorry...this move REEKS of conspiracy...

kind of like that Steelers TD last year where they clearly scored a meaningless TD at the end of the game but the official...for no reason...waived it off...ended the game...didn't review it...and the steelers won by 1 rather than 7 when the line was 6...

Spoken like a true gambler

[Mecca]

Anyone who thinks a team leading in the 3rd quarter when they are 14-0 is a meaningless game needs their head examined.

If the Chiefs ever did this, this entire board would melt the fuck down.

[Pioli Zombie]

There is so much pressure on the Colts to win the SB now. More on Caldwell than had they been 16-0. He will be known as a pussy in that town from this day on. It makes me feel ill that those old Dolphins fucks get to dance around like old queers tonight because of this. And that the Jets are given a playoff berth. I am rooting so hard for the Bengals next week. And they are fighting the Patriots for the #3 seed.
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[Hootie]

Sanchez has now beaten Brady and Manning the first time he has faced them. hehe.

no bashing Sanchez today but he literally didn't do anything...that was the managing of all managing for a QB today...was absolutely asked to do NOTHING but NOT fuck up, for the love of God...

that Brad Smith TD was huge...

but then Peyton answered (and it took little effort), and then the D answered...and then the Colts literally decided to lose on purpose...

If you're going to put in Painter...at least incorporate the Herm Edwards R2P2 and make Sanchez beat you...instead of a 1st down 7 step drop leaving their 3rd string TE to block the Jets best pass rusher and handing them 8 free points...

[wild1]

If that was the case they never should have dressed Manning or any of their other starters.

To pull him while up 15-10 is complete and utter BS.

Why? It's their prerogative.

What do you propose be done about it?

[kstater]

We never landed on the moon.

[Hootie]

Why? It's their prerogative.

What do you propose be done about it?

had a plan?

He's obviously going to start...they won't ruin that streak...

so either play him a series...or a half...

Playing him to the point where they pulled him made NO fucking sense...and not even your dumbass can argue otherwise...

[Hootie]

Caldwell in full spin mode...

Right...

LMAO

Pull him at halftime if you're going to pull him you fucking moron.

[wild1]

had a plan?

He's obviously going to start...they won't ruin that streak...

so either play him a series...or a half...

Playing him to the point where they pulled him made NO ****ing sense...and not even your dumbass can argue otherwise...

I'm just amused by you tots beating your hands and fists about a substitution in a meaningless football game.

[Touchdown Bowe]

The Colts will lose in the 2nd round reguardless of their record

[Hootie]

I'm just amused by you tots beating your hands and fists about a substitution in a meaningless football game.

meaningless? Now that's hilarious...

Who is the best coach of the salary cap era?

Easy.

BB

What would he have done?

Go find a new thread to spew your dipshit devil advocate spin on shit...

This was NO meaningless game.

Good luck though, Coach Caldwell...it's officially Super Bowl or your entire fan base hates you...

[Hootie]

The Colts will lose in the 2nd round reguardless of their record
you're a moron...

I could see them losing to New England or San Diego...

No one else is going to beat them.

[Basileus777]

you're a moron...

I could see them losing to New England or San Diego...

No one else is going to beat them.

The Colts nearly lost to a whole host of mediocre teams this season, they are capable of losing to just about any playoff team.

[wild1]

meaningless? Now that's hilarious...

Who is the best coach of the salary cap era?

Easy.

BB

What would he have done?

Go find a new thread to spew your dipshit devil advocate spin on shit...

This was NO meaningless game.

Good luck though, Coach Caldwell...it's officially Super Bowl or your entire fan base hates you...

Have another one Mr. Buffett :BLVD:

[luv]

Is this game officially over?

[Pioli Zombie]

They didn't want little Peyton to get a boo-boo. Manning must want to kill Caldwell.
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[dirk digler]

Why? It's their prerogative.

What do you propose be done about it?

First I don't get why you would take away the opportunity to go 16-0 especially with one of the greatest QB's ever to play the game. Watching his reaction on the sidelines he was not happy.

Second you are winning only by 5 and put in a rookie QB against one of the best D's in the NFL and let him get destroyed for what?

If you didn't care about the game then don't play them.

It is by far the worst coaching decision in the history of the NFL.

[Mecca]

It was so meaningless the Colts got booed by their home crowd.

[Hootie]

these guys are just playing devil advocates because it's a hootie thread...anyone who doesn't understand how idiotic that whole situation was is truly an idiot

[Hootie]

It was so meaningless the Colts got booed by their home crowd.

RELENTLESSLY booed...

100 times worse than anything that happened at Arrowhead...THIS YEAR

[Pioli Zombie]

If I'm a fan of the Colts and I went through all those close call games week after week I'm asking myself tonight,"why did I bother?". Picture some little kid who this meant so much to. I can't think of a comparable situation in sports history.
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[tk13]

I have to say I am shocked at the outrage. Both in Indiana and around the country. I don't know. If they go on to win the Super Bowl, nobody is going to care about today. People talking about fines and investigations, who cares? Some of the reaction is a bit outrageous. The Pats went for it all and they ran out of gas at the end. There's no one way to do it.

[Sully]

Wow.
I bet you get pissed when teams take a knee with a minute left and a 20-pt lead.

[dirk digler]

Reading some of the Colts boards the fans are fucking pissed as well as they should be.

[Rain Man]

I recognize an intent to avoid injuries, but I have to think that it would cause a morale hit for both the starters and the backups to lose like that. If Manning goes down in the playoffs, it's not going to give his backup any confidence coming in. Plus, I think it's a public relations mistake to deflate the fans.

[007]

Oh to hear the call in shows in Indy right now and tomorrow.

[tk13]

The funny thing is this gives the Saints a huge pass. The Saints have gotten their teeth kicked in the last couple weeks and now everyone's talking about the Colts.

[dirk digler]

Bill Polian on the radio in Indy

Said 16-0 was never the goal and that it would be a record that they would have to share with New England anyway

Maybe that is why he has only won 1 SB in like 6 tries dumbass

[MahiMike]

Looking at the players on the sidelines, that team could have some problems in the lockerroom. Pretty stupid.

[Hootie]

I have to say I am shocked at the outrage. Both in Indiana and around the country. I don't know. If they go on to win the Super Bowl, nobody is going to care about today. People talking about fines and investigations, who cares? Some of the reaction is a bit outrageous. The Pats went for it all and they ran out of gas at the end. There's no one way to do it.

Go read every point I made in this thread...

The timing that was displayed when they pulled Manning made no fucking sense whatsoever...

None.

There is no defense for that...

The Colts are either ran by morons, or someone had a little bit of influence in the outcome of that game.

[HMc]

Go read every point I made in this thread...

The timing that was displayed when they pulled Manning made no ****ing sense whatsoever...

None.

There is no defense for that...

The Colts are either ran by morons, or someone had a little bit of influence in the outcome of that game.

Retard, the timing doesn't need to make any sense when you don't need to win the game.

Anyway, what's so wierd about when he pulled him? Perhaps he was going to leave him in then decided to give the younger guy some reps on a whim.

[Hootie]

Retard, the timing doesn't need to make any sense when you don't need to win the game.

Anyway, what's so wierd about when he pulled him? Perhaps he was going to leave him in then decided to give the younger guy some reps on a whim.

Put in a rookie with a 5 point lead inside your own 10 with a 14-0 team against the leagues #1 defense fighting for a playoff spot?

The game didn't mean anything?

Tell that to Colts fans today...

and then tell that to Colts fans again if they lose in the playoffs.

This could end up being the single worst decision in the history of football...

If they don't win the Super Bowl...everyone is going to point to this game.

[tk13]

Go read every point I made in this thread...

The timing that was displayed when they pulled Manning made no ****ing sense whatsoever...

None.

There is no defense for that...

The Colts are either ran by morons, or someone had a little bit of influence in the outcome of that game.

You are out of your mind. They played the first half, and the first drive of the third quarter, just like the third preseason game.

[Mecca]

Well that's awesome if they lose to the Chargers or really lose at all in the playoffs Jim Caldwell is going to be basically raped by that entire city.

[Bearcat]

I have to say I am shocked at the outrage. Both in Indiana and around the country. I don't know. If they go on to win the Super Bowl, nobody is going to care about today. People talking about fines and investigations, who cares? Some of the reaction is a bit outrageous. The Pats went for it all and they ran out of gas at the end. There's no one way to do it.

Yeah, I don't get it... the rants in this thread are seriously f***ing retarded. Colts fans knew this game didn't matter, and should have known there was a chance Manning would sit, so WTF cares if he's sat? And if they go on to lose in the playoffs, what the hell does it have to do with going 14-1 instead of 15-0? Yeah, they'll lose in the playoffs and people will wonder what if we had beaten the Jets? Really?

They should be treated as preseason games, IMO, and I wouldn't have an issue with it if it was the Chiefs... 16-0 doesn't mean squat. Sure, if you go 18-1, then you might want that 1 back, but WTF would care at that point since you just won the Super Bowl?

The only thing I remotely agree with is how that rookie QB might be done, but the Colts fans shouldn't have been booing... you're 14-1 and could see a couple of playoff games at home. StFU and enjoy it.

[HMc]

Put in a rookie with a 5 point lead inside your own 10 with a 14-0 team against the leagues #1 defense fighting for a playoff spot?

The game didn't mean anything?

Tell that to Colts fans today...

and then tell that to Colts fans again if they lose in the playoffs.

This could end up being the single worst decision in the history of football...

If they don't win the Super Bowl...everyone is going to point to this game.

You're just a butthurt bitch because it potentially cost you some money.

[Bearcat]

Put in a rookie with a 5 point lead inside your own 10 with a 14-0 team against the leagues #1 defense fighting for a playoff spot?

The game didn't mean anything?

Tell that to Colts fans today...

and then tell that to Colts fans again if they lose in the playoffs.

This could end up being the single worst decision in the history of football...

If they don't win the Super Bowl...everyone is going to point to this game.

What does this game have to do with the playoffs?

[Hootie]

I guess going down as 19-0 and being known as the best team of all time doesn't mean anything...

Hey guys...without googling it...who won Super Bowl 19?

Super Bowl 22?

If the Colts went 19-0 this year...I bet everyone would remember it...

[Hootie]

What does this game have to do with the playoffs?

you'll see if they lose

[Hootie]

I bet maybe 10% of the coaches in the NFL would have rested their starters if they had a chance at 16-0...

TOPS

[Bearcat]

you'll see if they lose

Yeah, only if they had beaten the Jets in December, it would have made all the difference in January. :spock:

[Hootie]

and I'm sure Peyton Manning REALLY needed the rest...

They rested their ailing LT and sat Addai the whole game basically...rested Mathis...

Manning won't ever get hurt on the field...it just won't happen...

Resting him is just a dumb fucking move that didn't need to happen.

Caldwell is going to get owned by the city if they lose...they will not stand for it now.

[Hootie]

Yeah, only if they had beaten the Jets in December, it would have made all the difference in January. :spock:

I guess if you don't get it, you don't get it...so I won't try to explain it

[Basileus777]

Perfection? History?

You play for that shit.

That's why I have a tremendous amount of respect for the Patriots.....last game of the 2007 season...perfection on the line...and they slug it out with the Giants until the final second. Meanwhile, the Colts quit with a 3 point lead with 1 quarter left. This is the softest organization in the NFL.

[Norman Einstein]

Then NFL long ago decided that Miami will be the only team to go through a season undefeated. All the others can do well but then are required by the NFL to fold up for a game so those old guys can keep popping the cork on the provided champange.

[dirk digler]

Yeah, I don't get it... the rants in this thread are seriously f***ing retarded. Colts fans knew this game didn't matter, and should have known there was a chance Manning would sit, so WTF cares if he's sat? And if they go on to lose in the playoffs, what the hell does it have to do with going 14-1 instead of 15-0? Yeah, they'll lose in the playoffs and people will wonder what if we had beaten the Jets? Really?

They should be treated as preseason games, IMO, and I wouldn't have an issue with it if it was the Chiefs... 16-0 doesn't mean squat. Sure, if you go 18-1, then you might want that 1 back, but WTF would care at that point since you just won the Super Bowl?

The only thing I remotely agree with is how that rookie QB might be done, but the Colts fans shouldn't have been booing... you're 14-1 and could see a couple of playoff games at home. StFU and enjoy it.

I could understand that if they had already lost but they are 14-0 and have a chance to go 19-0 why wouldn't you go for it? This type of opportunity doesn't come along very often.

[Rain Man]

Next year when the Chiefs are 14-0 and Haley pulls MVP Matt Cassel when we're playing the Chargers, I'm going to be ticked. It's fine to pull Cassel if we're up by 20, but I wouldn't want to pull him when we're going for NFL history.

[Sully]

Put in a rookie with a 5 point lead inside your own 10 with a 14-0 team against the leagues #1 defense fighting for a playoff spot?

The game didn't mean anything?

Tell that to Colts fans today...

and then tell that to Colts fans again if they lose in the playoffs.

This could end up being the single worst decision in the history of football...

If they don't win the Super Bowl...everyone is going to point to this game.

What?
That's stupid.

[dirk digler]

Perfection? History?

You play for that shit.

That's why i have a tremendous amount of respect for the Patriots.....last game of the 2007 season...perfection on the line...and they slug it out with the Giants until the final second. Meanwhile, the Colts quit with a 3 point lead with 1 quarter left. This is the softest organization in the NFL.

yep. I didn't realize quitting was acceptable in sports.

[007]

Perfection? History?

You play for that shit.

That's why i have a tremendous amount of respect for the Patriots.....last game of the 2007 season...perfection on the line...and they slug it out with the Giants until the final second. Meanwhile, the Colts quit with a 3 point lead with 1 quarter left. This is the softest organization in the NFL.That's pretty much how I feel about it as well.

[Bearcat]

I guess if you don't get it, you don't get it...so I won't try to explain it

Okay, football genious. Are you seven? ROFLLMAO


And saying Manning won't ever get hurt is also retarded.... if you want real outrage, keep Manning in the entire game next week and f*** up his knee or some shit.... then the Colts organization will be run by morons for not saving their f***ing franchise for the playoffs.

[BWillie]

Next year when the Chiefs are 14-0 and Haley pulls MVP Matt Cassel when we're playing the Chargers, I'm going to be ticked. It's fine to pull Cassel if we're up by 20, but I wouldn't want to pull him when we're going for NFL history.

I don't understand why coaches are afraid to say "I want to win every game. I want to be undefeated." Saying you aren't thinking about having a perfect season is like saying I don't want to win.

I think coaches should embrace it. They make it more of a distraction when they act like it doesn't matter when it does. Look, how many teams have won the Super Bowl? And how many teams have went 16-0?

You don't have to win the super bowl to be remembered for something. Statistically speaking, it's harder to be 16-0 than to win a superbowl. Makes you wonder sometimes why we shouldn't covet a perfect season more than a Super Bowl? Hmm.

[Basileus777]

In 04, 05, 07, and 08 the Colts rested starters and went 0-1 every year except one where they went 1-1.

In 06, they did not rest anyone and they won the Superbowl.

Resting your starters in week 16 is worthless when you have a bye. The only logical reason for the Colts to give away this game is that they were scared of the pressure of going undefeated.

[Hootie]

Manning has started and never been fucking hurt in every game for 12 years...including like 10 playoffs...

What did the Colts have a better chance of doing?

Going undefeated?

Or losing because Manning blew out his knee?

I'd say 99% undefeated...

1% injury.

And that 1% is being generous.

[Brock]

In 04, 05, 07, and 08 the Colts rested starters and went 0-1 every year except one where they went 1-1.

In 06, they did not rest anyone and they won the Superbowl.

Resting your starters in week 16 is worthless when you have a bye. The only logical reason for the Colts to give away this game is that they were scared of the pressure of going undefeated.

With that defense, I don't care if they rest their starters or not. It's one and done.

[Bearcat]

I could understand that if they had already lost but they are 14-0 and have a chance to go 19-0 why wouldn't you go for it? This type of opportunity doesn't come along very often.

Super Bowls don't come around very often, either... I get it, and after hearing from that Mercury Morris (or whoever that Dolphin cock was) during the Patriots' run, I wanted it to happen. I just don't see the reason for all the outrage... so they treated it like a preseason game, they won't go undefeated.... but they can still win a freakin' Super Bowl!! I'd like one of those...

[Hootie]

With that defense, I don't care if they rest their starters or not. It's one and done.

It's not one and done...

They might be favored to lose against the Chargers...but they'll be a 6 point favorite against any other team other than the Patriots...

The Chargers and Patriots pose a threat to the Colts...

They'll beat everyone else.

[Rain Man]

I don't understand why coaches are afraid to say "I want to win every game. I want to be undefeated." Saying you aren't thinking about having a perfect season is like saying I don't want to win.

I think coaches should embrace it. They make it more of a distraction when they act like it doesn't matter when it does. Look, how many teams have won the Super Bowl? And how many teams have went 16-0?

You don't have to win the super bowl to be remembered for something Statistically speaking, it's harder to be 16-0 than to win a superbowl. Makes you wonder sometimes why we shouldn't covet a perfect season more than a Super Bowl? Hmm.

Excellent point. If I'm Peyton Manning, I obviously want to win a Super Bowl, but how many people talk about the 1971 Colts or the 1977 Cowboys or the 1980 Raiders? How many people talk about the 1972 Dolphins? That rookie head coach cost Peyton Manning his chance at football immortality.

[Hootie]

Excellent point. If I'm Peyton Manning, I obviously want to win a Super Bowl, but how many people talk about the 1971 Colts or the 1977 Cowboys or the 1980 Raiders? How many people talk about the 1972 Dolphins? That rookie head coach cost Peyton Manning his chance at football immortality.

ding ding fucking ding

like I said...

Super Bowl 20?

Super Bowl 22?

Super Bowl 36?

Super Bowl 31?

If the Colts went 19-0...no one would forget.

[Pioli Zombie]

I was at a sports bar a few weeks back and there was a table full of Colts fans going nuts as the Colts came back to beat Houston. They were so happy. I actually feel for those guys tonight wherever they are because they wasted their fucking time that afternoon. It meant nothing. And it would have been nice if the Colts organization had told them it meant nothing.
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[Pioli Zombie]

Btw, if the tiebreaker pecking order is Jets,Ravens, Broncos. Then the team and city that really got hurt today was Denver. Had the Colts tried to win and the Jets lost, Denver would have made the playoffs with a win over the Chiefs.
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[Rain Man]

ding ding ****ing ding

like I said...

Super Bowl 20?

Super Bowl 22?

Super Bowl 36?

Super Bowl 31?

If the Colts went 19-0...no one would forget.


I think that's the difference, the more I think about it. Guys like Peyton Manning aren't chasing a Super Bowl as much as they'll say the right thing. Manning already has a ring. What he wants now is what the 60s Packers had, or the 70s Steelers or the 80s 49ers. He wants a dynasty, or at the least a unique place in history. Quarterbacking a 19-0 team would do that, even if there would be some criticism that the Colts didn't have to face the Chiefs.

[RippedmyFlesh]

Btw, if the tiebreaker pecking order is Jets,Ravens, Broncos. Then the team and city that really got hurt today was Denver. Had the Colts tried to win and the Jets lost, Denver would have made the playoffs with a win over the Chiefs.
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Maybe some good does come out of this.

[Gadzooks]

I think that's the difference, the more I think about it. Guys like Peyton Manning aren't chasing a Super Bowl as much as they'll say the right thing. Manning already has a ring. What he wants now is what the 60s Packers had, or the 70s Steelers or the 80s 49ers. He wants a dynasty, or at the least a unique place in history. Quarterbacking a 19-0 team would do that, even if there would be some criticism that the Colts didn't have to face the Chiefs.

IMO, NE's inability to win the SB, after going 16-0, goes down as a failure that ranks up there with the Bills inability to win a SB in 4 straight tries.
By losing this game, the Colts can feel better when they lose to the Chargers in the Conference championship. They won't be seen as the 16-0 team that couldn't even make it to the big game.

[Bearcat]

I think that's the difference, the more I think about it. Guys like Peyton Manning aren't chasing a Super Bowl as much as they'll say the right thing. Manning already has a ring. What he wants now is what the 60s Packers had, or the 70s Steelers or the 80s 49ers. He wants a dynasty, or at the least a unique place in history. Quarterbacking a 19-0 team would do that, even if there would be some criticism that the Colts didn't have to face the Chiefs.

Even then, it only matters if they go onto win the SB, and 2 in 4 years is pretty darn good, regardless of their regular season record... and he went over 50,000 yards today, too.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.... had any of the benched players gotten hurt, that would be the only thing talked about if they went on to lose in the playoffs.

The Patriots destroyed teams in the regular season and ended up 18-1... it's not like the Colts have been dominating; lose a player or two and they could be done.... hell, people are already giving the game to SD if they meet.

[TEX]

from here on out...

This is so ****ing stupid it just boggles my mind.

**** the Colts. I hope they lose in the 2nd round.

Yep. I'm with ya.

[Raptor]

In all seriousness, what smells about all this is that the Jets are in with a win today and next week. This really hurts a lot of 8-7 teams competing with the Jets. One could get crazy and say a lot people benefit by the NY team making the playoffs. Goodell might get a few questions about this type of crap although what can you really do?? I do feel sorry for a lot of Colts fans who this meant a lot too.
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I agree. I understand what they did and why, but it changes the competitive balance and the Commissioner shouldn't let that happen. If no playoff berths were on the line, then I wouldn't care. But that is not the case. I now hope the Colts get bounced.

[DaFace]

I generally agree. I was rooting for 19-0 but now I hope they lose their first playoff game...to the Jets.
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[2112]

I have to agree. I didnt get it. why start Manning at all then? it made absolutely no sense. and add to that they were undefeated..and it really makes them a disgrace. and also the fucker gave me false hope now going into the last game of the season.

[Raptor]

I doubt anything will come of it, but in my opinion the Colt's management owes their fans, their competition, the NFL Office and all NFL fans an apology.

They tipped the scales of league competitiveness for selfish and cowardly purposes. They've tainted the Jets playoff position (assuming they hang on to make it). They jerked their fans around by not putting their best product on the field when they had a chance to make history (I went to the Colts site. The majority of their fans are smokin mad.). And, they've jerked the other 8-7 teams around by taking away the level playing field.

Sad. Very sad.:harumph:

[tk13]

I think the whole collusion thing is really out there. Every year teams make the playoffs by beating teams playing for nothing. Heck look at the 2005 season. The Chiefs were playing knock-down brawls against playoff contenders every single week down the stretch, and the Steelers were beating up on teams playing for nothing. They got in, we didn't, and they won the Super Bowl.

[dirk digler]

I think the whole collusion thing is really out there. Every year teams make the playoffs by beating teams playing for nothing. Heck look at the 2005 season. The Chiefs were playing knock-down brawls against playoff contenders every single week down the stretch, and the Steelers were beating up on teams playing for nothing. They got in, we didn't, and they won the Super Bowl.

I don't think it was collusion but I do think the decision had huge ramifications on the playoffs and also was just a momentual stupid decision to decide not to try for 19-0.

[dirk digler]

I doubt anything will come of it, but in my opinion the Colt's management owes their fans, their competition, the NFL Office and all NFL fans an apology.

They tipped the scales of league competitiveness for selfish and cowardly purposes. They've tainted the Jets playoff position (assuming they hang on to make it). They jerked their fans around by not putting their best product on the field when they had a chance to make history (I went to the Colts site. The majority of their fans are smokin mad.). And, they've jerked the other 8-7 teams around by taking away the level playing field.

Sad. Very sad.:harumph:

Totally agree. I went on some of their boards and the fans are fucking pissed even wanting Caldwell fired. I personally think he should be shit canned along with Polian.

[tk13]

People are just letting their emotions run out of control, fire Bill Polian? Polian is probably one of the best 2-3 GM's in football over the last 20 years.

[Buck]

So you are going for the Chargers then, right?

[Gadzooks]

People are just letting their emotions run out of control, fire Bill Polian? Polian is probably one of the best 2-3 GM's in football over the last 20 years.

Doesn't matter... The mob has spoken.

[Raptor]

I think the whole collusion thing is really out there. Every year teams make the playoffs by beating teams playing for nothing. Heck look at the 2005 season. The Chiefs were playing knock-down brawls against playoff contenders every single week down the stretch, and the Steelers were beating up on teams playing for nothing. They got in, we didn't, and they won the Super Bowl.

I don't see it as collusion. I don't think the Colts did anything with the intention of helping another team, only their own. However, in their unpopular and cowardly attempt to prevent injury when there was much on the line for many other teams, clear interest on the part of their players and fans to do something special, they compromised the competitive balance.

I understand their motive. I just think it's wrong when there is so much on the line for other teams. If they want to squander away a chance at history, that's up to them. Although if I was their fan I'd be pissed. But to impact the outcome of other playoff positions because you didn't give your best shot, I think that is a disgrace.

[dirk digler]

People are just letting their emotions run out of control, fire Bill Polian? Polian is probably one of the best 2-3 GM's in football over the last 20 years.

Yet who has won 1 SB in what 5-6 tries? Maybe it is this kind of thinking that always makes him end up in 2nd place

[Raptor]

So you are going for the Chargers then, right?

LOL. I might. Painful as it may be, at least they represent the AFC West.

[dirk digler]

I don't see it as collusion. I don't think the Colts did anything with the intention of helping another team, only their own. However, in their unpopular and cowardly attempt to prevent injury when there was much on the line for many other teams, clear interest on the part of their players and fans to do something special, they compromised the competitive balance.

I understand their motive. I just think it's wrong when there is so much on the line for other teams. If they want to squander away a chance at history, that's up to them. Although if I was their fan I'd be pissed. But to impact the outcome of other playoff positions because you didn't give your best shot, I think that is a disgrace.

In all honestly I wouldn't have cared if they weren't 14-0. I just think this is probably one of the worst coaching\GM decisions in the history of the NFL.

[Raptor]

Me too. I don't really care that they aren't undefeated. However, I do care that they handed the Jets a pass into the playoffs (nothing personal against the Jets and this assumes they hang onto it). If I were Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Denver and Houston's GM's I'd be hot and wouldn't be bashful about letting Polian know what a weak move that was.

[Gadzooks]

In all honestly I wouldn't have cared if they weren't 14-0. I just think this is probably one of the worst coaching\GM decisions in the history of the NFL.

I don't know what the big fuckin deal is. They bring in Painter while they were up. He proceeds to get mugged from behind and gives up a fumble for a TD.
Would it have been better to have the precious Mrs. Peyton get injured?!?
There have been many coaching\GM decisions in the history of the NFL that have been much worse.
For example:
-Atlanta trading to get Vick 1st overall in the 2001 draft.
-Ditka's deal for Ricky Williams
-Belichick's decision to go for it on 4th down against the Colts this season.
The list goes on and on...

[tk13]

Yet who has won 1 SB in what 5-6 tries? Maybe it is this kind of thinking that always makes him end up in 2nd place

What? :eek: Yeah, "only" one. Haha, but really, most GM's don't even make it to one. Let alone build three different teams into contenders.

[Hootie]

tk...

It just made no sense.

If they took him out at halftime. Fine. Sucks. But fine.

But they were the same team (just like I always said) without Addai (after one series) and Charlie Johnson and a lot of their defense...

Peyton is their team and he never gets hurt...why not AT LEAST give him that last drive on the 9 and see if he can ice the game with a patented Colts 10 minute+ TD drive and then make Sanchez beat you...

Instead of HANDING the biggest media market a win they didn't deserve...

Total bullshit.

Does it not remind you of Vegas costing the public MILLLLLLLLLIONS of dollars last year when that official inexplicably waived off that garbage defensive Polamalu TD last year with no time left...the one where they sacked the QB...the ball went flying backwards (didn't hit the ground) Polamalu caught it and scored a TD (shoulda won by 8 with the EXP since you have to kick it...) instead the official reversed it, didn't review it, and ran off the field...for no reason...giving the Steelers a 1 point win instead of a 7 or 8 point win and the Vegas line was at 6 and the public was HEAVY on the Steelers...

[dirk digler]

I don't know what the big fuckin deal is. They bring in Painter while they were up. He proceeds to get mugged from behind and gives up a fumble for a TD.
Would it have been better to have the precious Mrs. Peyton get injured?!?
There have been many coaching\GM decisions in the history of the NFL that have been much worse.
For example:
-Atlanta trading to get Vick 1st overall in the 2001 draft.
-Ditka's deal for Ricky Williams
-Belichick's decision to go for it on 4th down against the Colts this season.
The list goes on and on...

Which one will people remember the most; the Colts going 19-0 or any of those other things you listed?

[dirk digler]

What? :eek: Yeah, "only" one. Haha, but really, most GM's don't even make it to one. Let alone build three different teams into contenders.

True but he might have put himself in jeopardy with this stupid decision especially if they lose in the playoffs

[bmhardy]

The Colts made me sick today, and probably all the starters were sick too. They have a chance to win them all and they decided to back off and deliberately take a loss. If the coach wanted to sit players why didn't he say so before the game, or wait until there is a big lead and then do it. What is he saving the players from by pulling them out for 1 half? How sad is that for the colts fans at the game? The announcers keep saying that NE won all 16 and then lost the super bowl so it's good to pull players out. They act like if you win them all then you are going to loose the superbowl.

Previously the colts seemed very confident. I was listening to the colts after game radio and Manning sounds like he's been hit in the gut and seemed dejected. I think the coach has demoralized his players. They are all trying to say the right thing but you can tell they feel like loosers.

I keep hearing "Well this year the colts got all the statistics they need" so they don't need to play this game. "Peyton's got X yardage, blah blah blah". Well what about the statistic of winning every game including the super bowl?. Announcers said "The colts will win the super bowl and no one will remember this game." I will remember it. I want to see a team win them all or at least try to win for god's sake. Seems like a pretty important statistic to me. What if the colts do win the superbowl? Will people look at this game and say they could have won everything but chose not too?

On the radio and tv, announcers keep trying to look for the positives they can pull out of the game. There are no positives. I think the team has been de-motivated and everyone is back peddling to say why they did what they did. After their sufficient demoralizing I think the colts will go down to the Chargers, and I live in SD, so I say go Chargers. Go Chargers. Too bad, the colts had a chance for the history books. I wanted to see it happen.

I'm pretty pissed by the decision not to play the game. When the coach saw the game going so badly he probably wanted to put the starters back in, but imagine if he did and someone got hurt. Then he'd really look foolish.

[Gadzooks]

Which one will people remember the most; the Colts going 19-0 or any of those other things you listed?

We all know the Colts wouldn't have gone 19-0. They'd end up losing to the Chargers as usual.
That'd make them look like bigger jackasses than the Pats team that, at least, made the SB.

[tk13]

tk...

It just made no sense.

If they took him out at halftime. Fine. Sucks. But fine.

But they were the same team (just like I always said) without Addai (after one series) and Charlie Johnson and a lot of their defense...

Peyton is their team and he never gets hurt...why not AT LEAST give him that last drive on the 9 and see if he can ice the game with a patented Colts 10 minute+ TD drive and then make Sanchez beat you...

Instead of HANDING the biggest media market a win they didn't deserve...

Total bullshit.

Does it not remind you of Vegas costing the public MILLLLLLLLLIONS of dollars last year when that official inexplicably waived off that garbage defensive Polamalu TD last year with no time left...the one where they sacked the QB...the ball went flying backwards (didn't hit the ground) Polamalu caught it and scored a TD (shoulda won by 8 with the EXP since you have to kick it...) instead the official reversed it, didn't review it, and ran off the field...for no reason...giving the Steelers a 1 point win instead of a 7 or 8 point win and the Vegas line was at 6 and the public was HEAVY on the Steelers...

If you really believe that you shouldn't waste your time even watching. I wouldn't. The Colts just march to their own drum and really don't care what the public thinks. You have to remember the fanbase in an uproar today has questioned most of the moves Polian has made. From picking Edge over Ricky Williams, picking an undersized Freeney, taking WR's in the first round... etc. Management pretty much does what they want and never conforms to anyone's "board".

And this is coming from someone who would think it's funny getting to see all the Colts fans melt down again in the playoffs. I just don't understand why so many people who aren't even Colts fans are angry over what happened today. But I don't know, I have no emotional attachment and I don't care if they go undefeated or not. They're so robotic about everything, I don't think it'll affect them that much. If anything they've actually made Manning angry for once.

[teedubya]

Mercury Morris is doing a little jig and drinking some bubbly with the rest of the 72 Dolphins.

They are tap dancing on Hooties grave.

[dirk digler]

We all know the Colts wouldn't have gone 19-0. They'd end up losing to the Chargers as usual.
That'd make them look like bigger jackasses than the Pats team that, at least, made the SB.

Maybe or maybe not but why give up that chance?

Wouldn't you be pissed if the Chargers were 14-0 and decided to sit Rivers in the 3rd quarter only up by 5?

['Hamas' Jenkins]

ding ding fucking ding

like I said...

Super Bowl 20?

Super Bowl 22?

Super Bowl 36?

Super Bowl 31?

If the Colts went 19-0...no one would forget.

The Bears going 18-1 and arguably cementing their place as the best team of all time...I love that you put SB 20 like it's forgettable.

Super Bowl 36 was the Pats-Rams SB, arguably one of the greatest SBs of all time.

SB 31 has the iconic image of Favre running around the field w/ his helmet off after he threw a TD to Rison.

You really are wrong about everything.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Only a dipshit who bet on a team, knowing there was a damn good chance they were going to pull starters would be pissed at this.

Christ, we had family in from Indy this weekend, and they weren't even pissed about it - they knew this could happen.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

I love the fact that so many people in this thread are going after the Colts organization with pitchforks and torches when they were 14-0 going into this game, and yet these same people will defend the Chiefs, who have 9 wins in the last three fucking years and 5 of their last 41 games at every stop.

There is some awesome hypocrisy on display here. Awesome.

[Gadzooks]

Maybe or maybe not but why give up that chance?

Wouldn't you be pissed if the Chargers were 14-0 and decided to sit Rivers in the 3rd quarter only up by 5?

No, we don't have a SB.
The Colts have one, but like I've said, NE is a great example of how going 16-0 can be seen as a failure if you don't go all the way.
Since the Colts have a SB under their belts they might be more willing to take the risk but I wouldn't.
My whole point is, I wouldn't be that pissed. I wouldn't call for the coach's head let alone the GM's (that's rediculous:shake:)
Plus, the Colts 2nd stringers should be able to handle the Jets for a half. SD's 2nd stringers had to hold back against the Tits.

[DeezNutz]

I love the fact that so many people in this thread are going after the Colts organization with pitchforks and torches when they were 14-0 going into this game, and yet these same people will defend the Chiefs, who have 9 wins in the last three ****ing years and 5 of their last 41 games at every stop.

There is some awesome hypocrisy on display here. Awesome.

It's a process.

Haley and Pioli are building this the right way. Sorry that you were expecting a playoff birth.

[OnTheWarpath15]

It's a process.

Haley and Pioli are building this the right way. Sorry that you were expecting a playoff birth.

LMAO

[Mecca]

I despise the phrase process, it's like a built in excuse for not being able to find any players worth a shit.

[Gadzooks]

I despise the phrase process, it's like a built in excuse for not being able to find any players worth a shit.

How aboot the phrase "Rome wasn't built in a day"?!?:D

[DeezNutz]

I despise the phrase process, it's like a built in excuse for not being able to find any players worth a shit.

Fuck you. We've lost a 352 lbs.

And I was quickly dismissed by quite a few posters when I said that this was a huge fucking red flag. Such a bullshit, loser move to toss out a random, completely meaningless number.

But my favorite: changing the culture.

[dirk digler]

I love the fact that so many people in this thread are going after the Colts organization with pitchforks and torches when they were 14-0 going into this game, and yet these same people will defend the Chiefs, who have 9 wins in the last three fucking years and 5 of their last 41 games at every stop.

There is some awesome hypocrisy on display here. Awesome.

I guess I don't see the hypocrisy. The 2 situations are completely different.

[KCrockaholic]

I hate the Colts too. Its ok.

[Mecca]

Changing culture is complete bullshit too, there have been plenty of teams full of complete douches that won, you know what wins? Talent wins.

Todd Haley is better at running a fat camp than he is being a head coach, impressive.

[dirk digler]

No, we don't have a SB.
The Colts have one, but like I've said, NE is a great example of how going 16-0 can be seen as a failure if you don't go all the way.
Since the Colts have a SB under their belts they might be more willing to take the risk but I wouldn't.
My whole point is, I wouldn't be that pissed. I wouldn't call for the coach's head let alone the GM's (that's rediculous:shake:)
Plus, the Colts 2nd stringers should be able to handle the Jets for a half. SD's 2nd stringers had to hold back against the Tits.

I guess it is just me I am not a quitter. I would rather try and fail then never try at all. Apparently Polian and Caldwell would rather not try.

[HMc]

Perhaps they wanted Painter to get some freakin game time in case Manning does go down next week or whenever. The guy hadn't seen any regular season time at all until today and he's the man if Manning is injured.

Of course if Manning went down and they had to put the rookie in, everyone would complain that they hadn't given him some garbage time during the season.

[tk13]

Changing culture is complete bullshit too, there have been plenty of teams full of complete douches that won, you know what wins? Talent wins.

Todd Haley is better at running a fat camp than he is being a head coach, impressive.

Changing culture doesn't have to be about the moral quality of the players. It's about finding guys who play hard and as a team. Which sounds all golly gee whiz, but there is some merit to it considering some NFL players could give a crap. But part of that is having a head coach that everyone plays hard for.

[Hootie]

The Bears going 18-1 and arguably cementing their place as the best team of all time...I love that you put SB 20 like it's forgettable.

Super Bowl 36 was the Pats-Rams SB, arguably one of the greatest SBs of all time.

SB 31 has the iconic image of Favre running around the field w/ his helmet off after he threw a TD to Rison.

You really are wrong about everything.

I didn't look up what Super Bowls were what...I posted random fucking numbers...Jesus dude...stop taking things so literally...you are a mess.

[Hootie]

Perhaps they wanted Painter to get some freakin game time in case Manning does go down next week or whenever. The guy hadn't seen any regular season time at all until today and he's the man if Manning is injured.

Of course if Manning went down and they had to put the rookie in, everyone would complain that they hadn't given him some garbage time during the season.

ROFL

Well if this was the case...

EPIC fail.

[HMc]

ROFL

Well if this was the case...

EPIC fail.

Maybe, and maybe not. Maybe he crapped the bed on this occasion but next time he'll feel a little more comfortable.

If he has to come in, and when he does he steers them to a win, today may look like a masterstroke (if you have the ability to think critically, which I realise is a longshot).

[Pioli Zombie]

It's a process.

Haley and Pioli are building this the right way. Sorry that you were expecting a playoff birth.
A playoff birth. In a manger?
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[BY1401]

If I was a colts fan...I'd be WAY more fucking pissed...

I'm more pissed about this loss than any other I can remember.

It's one thing to see your team get outplayed.

It's another to watch them give up.

[BigMeatballDave]

No need to root against them, Manning will choke all on his own...

[Hootie]

there is not a SINGLE media personality that agrees with what the Colts did...and there is not a SINGLE media personality that thinks Peyton Manning was on board with this at any point...

And the truth is...

Peyton Manning is BIGGER than anyone in that organization...and that includes Bill Polian...and that CERTAINLY includes Jim Caldwell.

Like I said...they better win the Super Bowl now...or that regime is going to be on the hot seat with the fan base...not Peyton...not the players...the COACHES...the FRONT OFFICE.

[Hootie]

and you know what's funny?

They created a gigantic distraction they didn't need to create. Everyone is always talking about distractions...can't find a bigger one than this one.

They split apart an entire fan base...the Colts, the 14-0 Colts sad on their sideline and witnessed an epic meltdown by their fan base...Peyton sat there with his helmet on the entire time...

He wasn't TOUCHED that game...Rich Eisen tweeted the same thing...

They pulled Manning to "rest" him...for what? You're telling me he needed that extra 20 minutes of rest where he literally wasn't touched?

They rested their LT...they rested their RB...they rested a lot of their defense...they were the same fucking team with Manning/Wayne/Clark...

So instead of finishing out and getting a layup for perfection against Buffalo next week...they create a gigantic distraction that pisses off the players, puts even more pressure on the team to win a Super Bowl now...has infuriated the fan base...and gave the Jets an easy road to the playoffs....

It was pure and utter, predetermined bullshit that makes absolutely zero sense for any team, including the Colts.

Regardless of what spin anyone wants to try and put on it to refute these claims...the Colts handed a HISTORIC game to the Jets...for no reason...in a game where Peyton faced no pass rush to the point of being pulled...in a body of games where Peyton has never experienced an injury...on a team where the only injury that would be crushing to the Colts would be to Peyton (and it wasn't going to happen) or MAYBE Reggie Wayne (and hell, they could have pulled him, too, and they still would have won)...

It's just amazing to think about the unnecessary distraction those idiots just created...

I mean...they have won more games this decade than any team ever and have won ONE super bowl...

and these are the reasons why...they have inferior people coaching this team...imagine Belichick running the Colts...oh man, that would be unfair to the NFL...maybe it's a good thing the Dungy tree has managed to keep this team on a level playing field.

[jettio]

Next year when the Chiefs are 14-0 and Haley pulls MVP Matt Cassel when we're playing the Chargers, I'm going to be ticked. It's fine to pull Cassel if we're up by 20, but I wouldn't want to pull him when we're going for NFL history.

Just make sure that you place a huge bet on the game.

[BY1401]

...for no reason...

There is a reason.

We lost Cornelius Bennett at Buffalo in Game 16 of the '99 season, lost to Tennessee in the divisional round, and Polian has been gun-shy about "meaningless" games ever since.

That being said: Jim Dungy can choke while eating a bag of dicks and drinking antifreeze as he is consumed in the biggest AIDS tree fire in the history of the universe.

[vailpass]

I'd love to hear all your reactions of Peyton blew his knee out in the 4th quarter of a meaningless game .

[Hootie]

I'd love to hear all your reactions of Peyton blew his knee out in the 4th quarter of a meaningless game .

you know how when you first ride a plane and you're young...and you think it might crash...but your mom tells you there is a better chance of being struck by lightning, twice, than the plane you are on crashing (even though that probably isn't true, but you get the point)...?

Yeah...that's about the same odds as Peyton Manning getting hurt in that football game...

Dude has played over 200 professional football games and has only found the injury report for a few weeks after an offseason knee clean-up a few years ago...

AND...

He had yet to be TOUCHED against the Jets all day...without their starting LT playing (overrated)...

AND...

They were 14-0 playing for history...

AND...

They are going to face Brian Brohn, layup, in week 17...

AND...

If they were playing anyone but the Jets (someone the NFL would love to see in the playoffs)...someone like say...the Chiefs...

No way would that course of events had have happened...

[Hootie]

there would be a better chance of me waking up this morning and being a responsible adult than Peyton Manning getting injured in that 4th quarter...

[Rausch]

I'd love to hear all your reactions of Peyton blew his knee out in the 4th quarter of a meaningless game .

I'd probably thrust a triumphant fist in the air...

[DBOSHO]

Anything could happen.

Nobody thought tom would get hurt because of his movement in the pocket.

It only takes 1 protection breakdown or 1 low shot and boom, curtis painter is leading your team into the post season.

[DBOSHO]

I'd probably thrust a triumphant fist in the air...

Dis.

[jettio]

and you know what's funny?

They created a gigantic distraction they didn't need to create. Everyone is always talking about distractions...can't find a bigger one than this one.

They split apart an entire fan base...the Colts, the 14-0 Colts sad on their sideline and witnessed an epic meltdown by their fan base...Peyton sat there with his helmet on the entire time...

He wasn't TOUCHED that game...Rich Eisen tweeted the same thing...

They pulled Manning to "rest" him...for what? You're telling me he needed that extra 20 minutes of rest where he literally wasn't touched?

They rested their LT...they rested their RB...they rested a lot of their defense...they were the same ****ing team with Manning/Wayne/Clark...

So instead of finishing out and getting a layup for perfection against Buffalo next week...they create a gigantic distraction that pisses off the players, puts even more pressure on the team to win a Super Bowl now...has infuriated the fan base...and gave the Jets an easy road to the playoffs....

It was pure and utter, predetermined bullshit that makes absolutely zero sense for any team, including the Colts.

Regardless of what spin anyone wants to try and put on it to refute these claims...the Colts handed a HISTORIC game to the Jets...for no reason...in a game where Peyton faced no pass rush to the point of being pulled...in a body of games where Peyton has never experienced an injury...on a team where the only injury that would be crushing to the Colts would be to Peyton (and it wasn't going to happen) or MAYBE Reggie Wayne (and hell, they could have pulled him, too, and they still would have won)...

It's just amazing to think about the unnecessary distraction those idiots just created...

I mean...they have won more games this decade than any team ever and have won ONE super bowl...

and these are the reasons why...they have inferior people coaching this team...imagine Belichick running the Colts...oh man, that would be unfair to the NFL...maybe it's a good thing the Dungy tree has managed to keep this team on a level playing field.

I think you are posting this sh*t for two reasons:

1. First, you are mad that you lost money;

2. Second, before the Colts even dressed for this game you think the Chargers are the best team in the AFC, and that they will win the AFC championship game no matter what the Colts did the rest of the regular season.

Considering the Colts' injuries this season, it is amazing that they made it to 14-0. I think they should have played Manning the whole game, but for you to get all sanctimonious is kinda silly.

I say that you should bet every spare dime on the Chargers in the AFC Championship.

Anticipating that those two teams play, I would have expected the Chargers to win. Maybe, the Colts rally around their coach and find a way to win that game now that all of the dumber gamblers will be criticizing him.

It would be great to see a thread from someone who bet the Jets yesterday.

And, Tony Dungy is a great coach. Where the hell do you come off saying that he ain't?

[Hootie]

He isn't a great coach.

At all.

You can search the thread on that if you want my opinions on that matter.

[Brock]

Tony Dungy is far from a great coach. He's Herm Edwards with a HOF quarterback and consequently, a super bowl ring.

[Rausch]

Tony Dungy is a great man but not a great coach...

[jettio]

Tony Dungy is far from a great coach. He's Herm Edwards with a HOF quarterback and consequently, a super bowl ring.

Dungy won a few games without a HOF QB in Tampa Bay.

I suppose under your theory, the only good coach is John Gruden and Brian Billick because they are the only ones who have won the Super Bowl recently without a HOF QB.

And Gruden did it with the team that Dungy built.

[Brock]

Dungy won a few games without a HOF QB in Tampa Bay.

I suppose under your theory, the only good coach is John Gruden and Brian Billick because they are the only ones who have won the Super Bowl recently without a HOF QB.

And Gruden did it with the team that Dungy built.

None of which makes Dungy a "great coach" as you call him. I don't think Billick or Gruden are either, but you're right, they were better than Dungy because they didn't have a great QB and still got it done.

[Simply Red]

Still feel this way, Baby Got Grbac?