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JRS2
01-06-2010, 07:26 AM
http://arrowheadaddict.com/2010/01/06/chiefs-fire-offensive-line-coach-joe-d%e2%80%99alessandris/

philfree
01-06-2010, 07:31 AM
Ohohoh! The carnage!

PhilFree:arrow:

Hog's Gone Fishin
01-06-2010, 07:31 AM
Yes !

Next .

Stinger
01-06-2010, 07:32 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v250/stinger871/Chief%20Planet/612capture_tombstone03.jpg

tomahawk kid
01-06-2010, 07:34 AM
Interesting.

This guy was another Herm holdover, was he not?

Redrum_69
01-06-2010, 07:34 AM
D’Alessandris should make a "leaving the chiefsplanet forever" thread

JRS2
01-06-2010, 07:35 AM
It seems they have cleared the way for both Crennel and Weis. Man, I hope so. My Chiefs offseason would be off to a great start.

dirk digler
01-06-2010, 07:36 AM
He was just the Assistant OL coach. Bill Muir is the OL coach but he probably blamed it all on Joe.

shit runs down hill.

Delano
01-06-2010, 07:38 AM
20 guys off the street can coach a team to 2 wins.
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Radar Chief
01-06-2010, 07:45 AM
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01-06-2010, 08:16 AM
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Amnorix
01-06-2010, 08:31 AM
20 guys off the street can coach a team to 2 wins.
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Not an undertalented NFL team, they couldn't...

Bane
01-06-2010, 08:38 AM
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HemiEd
01-06-2010, 08:58 AM
He was just the Assistant OL coach. Bill Muir is the OL coach but he probably blamed it all on Joe.

shit runs down hill.

Yeah, but IMO, they actually showed improvement in their offensive linemen.

The OL probably improved more than any other segment on the team, of course it had the most room to improve, as well. No getting around that.

Was the improvement due to coaching, or injuries? Hell I would say some of both.

Crap, I have no idea, move along.

DJ's left nut
01-06-2010, 09:16 AM
Yeah, but IMO, they actually showed improvement in their offensive linemen.

The OL probably improved more than any other segment on the team, of course it had the most room to improve, as well. No getting around that.

Was the improvement due to coaching, or injuries? Hell I would say some of both.

Crap, I have no idea, move along.

I agree with you here.

Of all the units on the squad, the O-line seemed like the one that best responded to coaching. We saw incremental improvement from those guys every game this year. By the last few weeks of the season, it had become a definite strength.

Not sure I understand firing the guys responsible for our most improved area of the team.

Chiefnj2
01-06-2010, 09:19 AM
Not sure I understand firing the guys responsible for our most improved area of the team.

D'Allisandris was brought to the team with Chan. He was Chan's guy.

gblowfish
01-06-2010, 09:27 AM
This week must be like a big game of dodge ball in the Chiefs offices...

dirk digler
01-06-2010, 09:29 AM
D'Allisandris was brought to the team with Chan. He was Chan's guy.

Ahhh that makes sense

soundmind
01-06-2010, 09:29 AM
I agree with you here.

Of all the units on the squad, the O-line seemed like the one that best responded to coaching. We saw incremental improvement from those guys every game this year. By the last few weeks of the season, it had become a definite strength.

Not sure I understand firing the guys responsible for our most improved area of the team.

Really? ......Really?

Charles' olympic speed was the only thing that changed this squad the last couple weeks, and it made a SORRY offensive line look okay. It took pressure off Cassel because defenses couldn't lock their sites on him anymore.

I won't deny they improved, but to say it was a strength is ludicrous.

DJ's left nut
01-06-2010, 09:30 AM
D'Allisandris was brought to the team with Chan. He was Chan's guy.

Don't get me wrong, I know why Haioli did it - they're insecure assclowns that feel the need to shit on anyone and anything they didn't bring with them.

That doesn't mean I think it makes any sense.

soundmind
01-06-2010, 09:30 AM
This week must be like a big game of dodge ball in the Chiefs offices...

That would be the most entertaining housecleaning of all time.

HemiEd
01-06-2010, 09:32 AM
I agree with you here.

Of all the units on the squad, the O-line seemed like the one that best responded to coaching. We saw incremental improvement from those guys every game this year. By the last few weeks of the season, it had become a definite strength.

Not sure I understand firing the guys responsible for our most improved area of the team.

Yeah, I caught myself thinking last night, that maybe the OL coaches could help out the DL coaches? Then they fire one of them? :banghead:

HemiEd
01-06-2010, 09:35 AM
This week must be like a big game of dodge ball in the Chiefs offices...

ROFL I bet you are right. I wonder who is hiding down stairs, with the red stapler.

Royal Fanatic
01-06-2010, 09:39 AM
Don't get me wrong, I know why Haioli did it - they're insecure assclowns that feel the need to shit on anyone and anything they didn't bring with them.

That doesn't mean I think it makes any sense.
Jason?

DJ's left nut
01-06-2010, 09:39 AM
Really? ......Really?

Charles' olympic speed was the only thing that changed this squad the last couple weeks, and it made a SORRY offensive line look okay. It took pressure off Cassel because defenses couldn't lock their sites on him anymore.

I won't deny they improved, but to say it was a strength is ludicrous.

Name a better unit on the team over the last 6 weeks of the season.

Charles was great and that certainly helped, but the line was doing a solid job of giving him running games and getting outside on those stretch plays.

Ask Darren Sproles and his 3.7 YPC average if a RBs speed can make the entire offensive line improve as much you seem to believe it can.

Don't punish the squad that took the field for the last several weeks for the sins of the first several. Once we got a competent RB in there and some semblance of a gameplan in place, they showed themselves to be more than capable out there. I don't see why we can't give them credit for performing well when given just a few of the tools that any NFL line should have to work with.

gblowfish
01-06-2010, 09:52 AM
ROFL I bet you are right. I wonder who is hiding down stairs, with the red stapler.

Nobody will make eye contact with Ray Farmer...

CHIEFS58
01-06-2010, 10:32 AM
I know Joe. Hes a good dude. The line was getting better. Doesnt make sense to fire him and not Muir too. How much detrimental input could and assistant o-line coach have? I know Im influenced by the fact i know him, and i understand he was a Chan guy, but damn.

Dave Lane
01-06-2010, 10:34 AM
20 guys off the street can coach a team to 2 wins.
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But 22 can coach them to 4 wins :thumb:

Dave Lane
01-06-2010, 10:39 AM
Maybe he was butthurt from Chan firing.

Red Brooklyn
01-06-2010, 10:39 AM
There is not an emoticon in exsistence to express my excitement and joy.

Mr. Laz
01-06-2010, 10:45 AM
Don't get me wrong, I know why Haioli did it - they're insecure assclowns that feel the need to shit on anyone and anything they didn't bring with them.

That doesn't mean I think it makes any sense.
WTF ... you seem to be getting more pissed off by the day.

Mr. Laz
01-06-2010, 10:46 AM
Maybe he was butthurt from Chan firing.
maybe he was one of the guys(along with chan apparently) that said our existing Oline were good enough at the beginning of the year?

maybe they had 2 guys for Oline at the beginning the year because they needed extra work and now just Muir is enough?

:shrug:

bottom line is that they are making changes and still working :clap:

King_Chief_Fan
01-06-2010, 10:52 AM
some people sure seem butt hurt over an assistant line coach...wow
we should be butt hurt a lot more by the question why is Clancy still there and why isn't Romeo signed yet

Saccopoo
01-06-2010, 10:52 AM
Yeah, but IMO, they actually showed improvement in their offensive linemen.

The OL probably improved more than any other segment on the team, of course it had the most room to improve, as well. No getting around that.

Was the improvement due to coaching, or injuries? Hell I would say some of both.

Crap, I have no idea, move along.

Our offensive line was atrocious. Worst in football. The only thing that saved them was that Jamaal Charles actually wanted to run the ball and had the ability to do so. Our offensive line sucks dog nuts.

Look at where this one site has them graded out. They are all, to a man, in the red (with the exception of Wade Smith, and he's about as close as you can get without being in the red). I can't tell you how the Chief's graded them out from an official standpoint, but it can't be that far off from this site's analysis. Freaking horrible.

http://profootballfocus.com/by_position.php?tab=by_position&season=2009&pos=T&stype=r&runpass=&teamid=-1&numsnaps=25&numgames=1

RJ
01-06-2010, 10:55 AM
D’Alessandris should make a "leaving the chiefsplanet forever" thread


Dude is off the grid!

DaneMcCloud
01-06-2010, 10:59 AM
maybe he was one of the guys(along with chan apparently) that said our existing Oline were good enough at the beginning of the year?

maybe they had 2 guys for Oline at the beginning the year because they needed extra work and now just Muir is enough?

:shrug:

bottom line is that they are making changes and still working :clap:

If that was the case, Wade Smith would have been starting day one.

DumbHillbillies
01-06-2010, 11:15 AM
Damn, they had security escort him out. ROFL "I know what you are all thinking, I'm going to flip out"

Good. Keep the heads coming.

Chiefnj2
01-06-2010, 11:18 AM
God forbid he take the playbook that resulted in no rushing TD's for half the season and no first quarter TD for the first 16 weeks of the season.

DJ's left nut
01-06-2010, 11:18 AM
WTF ... you seem to be getting more pissed off by the day.

Haven't seen a whole lot that would improve my mood at this point.

I'm encouraged by our O-line play and our RB (though I could've done without Captain Ahab running him 25 times/gm).

Otherwise I'm just seeing a lot of the same ol' cronyism that begat Clancy Pendergast, Matt Cassel and Mike Brown.

The true "WTF" is why haven't you been getting more pissed off by the day?

Mr. Laz
01-06-2010, 11:22 AM
Haven't seen a whole lot that would improve my mood at this point.

I'm encouraged by our O-line play and our RB (though I could've done without Captain Ahab running him 25 times/gm).

Otherwise I'm just seeing a lot of the same ol' cronyism that begat Clancy Pendergast, Matt Cassel and Mike Brown.

The true "WTF" is why haven't you been getting more pissed off by the day?
because this is Haleys 1st year as a head coach EVAH!
this is Pioli's 1st year in KC
because Pioli didn't even have a full offseason when he got here
because i'm willing to give them some time to get things together

Saccopoo
01-06-2010, 11:27 AM
Haven't seen a whole lot that would improve my mood at this point.

I'm encouraged by our O-line play and our RB (though I could've done without Captain Ahab running him 25 times/gm).

Otherwise I'm just seeing a lot of the same ol' cronyism that begat Clancy Pendergast, Matt Cassel and Mike Brown.

The true "WTF" is why haven't you been getting more pissed off by the day?

In addition to Laz's response, they took the motley crew that was assembled by Herm and Carl and doubled the wins and won in Invesco when neither Dick nor the Herminator could. They also shit canned Larry.

That's improvement in my book, and they did it in a shortened pre-season and single regular season.

Any movement upwards is a good thing at this point.

They don't get a free pass mind you, but they did show improvement.

DJ's left nut
01-06-2010, 11:34 AM
because this is Haleys 1st year as a head coach EVAH!
this is Pioli's 1st year in KC
because Pioli didn't even have a full offseason when he got here
because i'm willing to give them some time to get things together

Aren't you the one that said I should probably just leave for a couple seasons?

'Cause it pretty much sounds like that's what you're up to. "Nevermind what they actually do here, I'm just gonna ignore it and 'give em more time'...."

Pioli wasted 2009. His draft, his offseason - the entire thing was a complete waste. And they'd have never shitcanned LJ but/for his outburst (and they wouldn't have stumbled upon Charles had Kolby Smith not gotten hurt, Haley's quotes at the time make it clear).

The fired a guy that is at least partially responsible for the only unit to improve on the season because he wasn't one of their boys; at the same time they pretty much fell into the only positive player development story of the season.

Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and say that I have plenty to be irritated about in regards to this season.

Mr. Laz
01-06-2010, 11:36 AM
Aren't you the one that said I should probably just leave for a couple seasons?

'Cause it pretty much sounds like that's what you're up to. "Nevermind what they actually do here, I'm just gonna ignore it and 'give em more time'...."

Pioli wasted 2009. His draft, his offseason - the entire thing was a complete waste. And they'd have never shitcanned LJ but/for his outburst (and they wouldn't have stumbled upon Charles had Kolby Smith not gotten hurt, Haley's quotes at the time make it clear).

The fired a guy that is at least partially responsible for the only unit to improve on the season because he wasn't one of their boys; at the same time they pretty much fell into the only positive player development story of the season.

Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and say that I have plenty to be irritated about in regards to this season.
enjoy yourself

DJ's left nut
01-06-2010, 11:40 AM
In addition to Laz's response, they took the motley crew that was assembled by Herm and Carl and doubled the wins and won in Invesco when neither Dick nor the Herminator could. They also shit canned Larry.

That's improvement in my book, and they did it in a shortened pre-season and single regular season.

Any movement upwards is a good thing at this point.

They don't get a free pass mind you, but they did show improvement.

The best players on this team were brought in by Herm and Carl.

The worst players on the team were brought in by Haley and Pioli.

There were things they could've done this offseason which would've made me content with their performance this season. Signing Thomas, Brown and Goff, trading for Vrabel and Cassel, cutting Pollard and Boone, using a #3 overall pick on a 3-technique, holding onto Larry Johnson until he made it absolutely impossible to retain him....none of those things qualify.

Take away the guys brought in by Herm/Carl in the 2008 draft, replace them with players like Tyson Jackson, Javarris Williams, Donald Washington and Colin Brown and this team would somehow be worse than it was.

The team didn't develop a whit this season - that's why I'm pissed.

Chief Faithful
01-06-2010, 11:41 AM
Really? ......Really?

Charles' olympic speed was the only thing that changed this squad the last couple weeks, and it made a SORRY offensive line look okay. It took pressure off Cassel because defenses couldn't lock their sites on him anymore.

I won't deny they improved, but to say it was a strength is ludicrous.

You are correct, but it is more than a speed issue. The way Charles runs fits the blocking methods they were coaching. Take any fast hitting back and the line looks better than it did with LJ.

Mr. Laz
01-06-2010, 11:45 AM
You are correct, but it is more than a speed issue. The way Charles runs fits the blocking methods they were coaching. Take any fast hitting back and the line looks better than it did with LJ.
also once Charles took over they started running to the outside and away from Nissuckswanger which is a good thing.

LaChapelle
01-06-2010, 11:46 AM
Last season they waited to late to hire coaches
this season it will be they jumped in to soon -before the playoff coaches were available

~Chiefsplanet
just let it all out

Chief Faithful
01-06-2010, 11:51 AM
In addition to Laz's response, they took the motley crew that was assembled by Herm and Carl and doubled the wins and won in Invesco when neither Dick nor the Herminator could. They also shit canned Larry.

That's improvement in my book, and they did it in a shortened pre-season and single regular season.

Any movement upwards is a good thing at this point.

They don't get a free pass mind you, but they did show improvement.

Just when I was pegging you as a hater you go and say something sensible.

GloryDayz
01-06-2010, 11:51 AM
Yeah, but the O-line coach is here to stay! LOL I'll say this, at least his players had plenty of on-field time to save his job - to the tune of 65-70 percent of the game... With our offenses 3-and-out policy, it sure gave the defense plenty of time to show off..

Chief Faithful
01-06-2010, 11:54 AM
also once Charles took over they started running to the outside and away from Nissuckswanger which is a good thing.

LJ can't begin to keep up with Charles on outside runs, but the biggest improvement I saw were the runs between guard and tackle. Charles hit the hole fast and didn't require anything more than a crease. LJ required an 8ft lane.

Saccopoo
01-06-2010, 11:56 AM
Just when I was pegging you as a hater you go and say something sensible.

I'm not a hater, I'm a realist. It's not my fault that most things suck, I just calls 'em as I sees 'em.

Dante84
01-06-2010, 01:12 PM
That settles it, DJ's Left Nut. You and I can never be roommates.

Titty Meat
01-06-2010, 01:17 PM
So the Chiefs are leaving a spot open for Weis?

1ChiefsDan
01-06-2010, 01:46 PM
According to Looney both Krumrie and D'Alessandris weren't fired - contracts were up and just not renewed. Same result - both are gone.

Mr. Laz
01-06-2010, 01:52 PM
According to Looney both Krumrie and D'Alessandris weren't fired - contracts were up and just not renewed. Same result - both are gone.
that's the way it almost always is ...

most regular coaches run on 1-year deal and are never fired just not renewed.