Weis agrees to become OC for KC

[Sure-Oz]

PER ESPNNEWS!


http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4802526 (credit dtrain for the link)
Sources: Weis accepts job with Chiefs
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KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- Charlie Weis has agreed to become the offensive coordinator of the Kansas City Chiefs, according to team and league sources.

Weis could be named to the position within the next 24 to 48 hours, the sources said.

Weis will be reunited with head coach Todd Haley, with whom he shared an office when both were young assistants with the New York Jets. Weis also will be reunited with Chiefs general manager Scott Pioli, who was the Patriots vice president of player personnel when Weis was the offensive coordinator for three Super Bowl championships before going to coach at Notre Dame.

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The Bears had also been in the mix to hire Weis as offensive coordinator but the Chiefs won out.

Haley ran the offense in his first year with the Chiefs after dismissing offensive coordinator Chan Gailey. Haley had expressed a desire to find a coordinator so he could better manage his head coaching responsibilities.

Weis was dismissed last fall with a 35-27 record in five seasons at Notre Dame.

"Charlie's a guy I have a great amount of respect for as a coach," Haley said Wednesday at his final news conference of the season. "He's a coach that system-wise, I would say we're as close as you can be. Charlie's a guy I consider a friend and I've talked to throughout the year, no different from some of the other guys I lean on for things and advice."

Haley has begun a staff evaluation and said he has already released offensive line coach Joe D'Allessandris and defensive line coach Tim Krumrie. Many fans also hope defensive coordinator Clancy Pendergast will be replaced, possibly by former Cleveland coach Romeo Crennel.

Haley was noncommittal about Crennel and Pendergast.

"No conversations in that order to this point," he said.

The emergence of running back Jamaal Charles, voted the team's MVP, gives the offense something to build on next year.

"I really believe we were able to lay a foundation for the Kansas City Chiefs," Haley said. "We were able to set expectations for our players of what's expected of them both schematically and offseason, in season and practice -- the way we're going to do things as a team on a consistent basis. I believe that foundation was laid.

"It was a very difficult year, a year we were able to make progress, as evidenced by the way the season wound down."

The Chiefs are expected to be busy in the offseason trying to fill gaping needs, including defensive back, wide receiver, linebacker, defensive line and tight end.

They pick fifth in April's draft. The could have picked third, but instead ended Haley's rookie year on a rousing high by beating Denver 44-24 in the season finale.

Chris Mortensen is a senior NFL analyst for ESPN. The Associated Press contributed to this report.

[SDChiefs]

For whom?

[DeezNutz]

Overrated. /JD 3003030232/

:)

[Halfcan]

Gotta be better than Haleys playground ball-lol

[Buck]

The Patsification Continues...

[siberian khatru]

Can't wait to see this reposted 3-4 times during the night.

[Sure-Oz]

FOR THE CHIEFS SILLLAAYY

[CaliforniaChief]

For whom?

ROFL

[Thig Lyfe]

TO THE GRAVY BOAT!!!!!

[ClevelandBronco]

Can't wait to see this reposted 3-4 times during the night.

You don't have to wait.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Considering ESPN said Bruce Arians had been fired in Pittsburgh, and then had to go, "WHOOPS, SORRY!" I'll wait until it's official and a statement is released by the team.

[LaChapelle]

They had to get him signed
before the cranes were done at Arrowhead



-Too soon?

[Smed1065]

So Haley can learn......

[BigRock]

I can't imagine he'd be horribly wrong on KC coaching matters in back to back seasons, but it seems Chris Mortenson is the one saying this. Which means the ESPN News thing could add the word "might" at any point, just like it did with Shanahan last year.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Listening to Weis speak on NFL network many times he's appear very intelligent. I can feel good about this. Anybody got his career achievement list handy ?

[Archie Bunker]

The best move of the Pioli era. Love the hire.
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[warrior]

:thumb:Good News----

[keg in kc]

In with the traditional "another ****ing Patriots stooge/should've hired somebody young and hungry/this ****ing sucks".

[booger]

The giants suprisingly fired Mike Waufle their DL coach. He'd be a good get.

[DeezNutz]

In with the traditional "another ****ing Patriots stooge/should've hired somebody young and hungry/this ****ing sucks".

I'm betting that Weis is still hungry.

[Red Beans]

He's fat. We'll be good as long as he doesn't accidentally eat Haley.

[keg in kc]

I'm betting that Weis is still hungry.You make a good point.

[Mr. Laz]

weis suck ass!!!!


or not :p

[Marcellus]

In with the traditional "another ****ing Patriots stooge/should've hired somebody young and hunger/this ****ing sucks".

You are so right. I don't want the guy that helped develop Brady from a 6th round pick to all world QB in 2 years.

Some young hungry no name would have been much better. Maybe we could get Todd Haley as our OC ....oh wait......

[Reaper16]

Updated mock draft, 01/06/10:

1.) Jimmy Clausen, QB, Notre Dame
2a.) Golden Tate, WR, Notre Dame
2b.) Scott Walker, chef du cuisine, Culinary Institute of America

[LaChapelle]

Is he a booth or sideline guy
for swearing's sake

[CaliforniaChief]

I do think that Weis' hiring speaks well of Haley's comfort with himself. If he had insecurities, bringing a guy with name recognition like Weis would be a serious threat. But I'm glad Haley has the sense to bring in an OC who can say "Hey Todd, I'm glad that Castille to Castle pass worked in Madden '10, and Castille to Castle sounds good, but it's a really bad idea."

[siberian khatru]

Updated mock draft, 01/06/10:

1.) Jimmy Clausen, QB, Notre Dame
2a.) Golden Tate, WR, Notre Dame
2b.) Scott Walker, chef du cuisine, Culinary Institute of America

LMAO

[Mecca]

Updated mock draft, 01/06/10:

1.) Jimmy Clausen, QB, Notre Dame
2a.) Golden Tate, WR, Notre Dame
2b.) Scott Walker, chef du cuisine, Culinary Institute of America

It's really to bad this isn't a year or 2 from now Kyle Rudolph and Michael Floyd, I'd take them.

[Mr. Laz]

Updated mock draft, 01/06/10:

1.) Jimmy Clausen, QB, Notre Dame
2a.) Golden Tate, WR, Notre Dame
2b.) Scott Walker, chef du cuisine, Culinary Institute of America
can you hear Coogs masturbation furiously at his keyboard?

[OnTheWarpath15]

In with the traditional "another ****ing Patriots stooge/should've hired somebody young and hungry/this ****ing sucks".

FTR, if in fact this happens, and it all but seems like a formality at this point, I think Weis is a good get. This time around, I think they actually got the best guy for the job.

Crennel, OTOH?

Not so much.

[DeezNutz]

I do think that Weis' hiring speaks well of Haley's comfort with himself. If he had insecurities, bringing a guy with name recognition like Weis would be a serious threat. But I'm glad Haley has the sense to bring in an OC who can say "Hey Todd, I'm glad that Castille to Castle pass worked in Madden '10, and Castille to Castle sounds good, but it's a really bad idea."

The more cynical view would be to say that Haley, despite what he says publicly, had no choice and that Pioli made this decision, after seeing Haley shit himself every Sunday.

But, whatever.

As of today, the Chiefs are better.

[siberian khatru]

I do think that Weis' hiring speaks well of Haley's comfort with himself. If he had insecurities, bringing a guy with name recognition like Weis would be a serious threat. But I'm glad Haley has the sense to bring in an OC who can say "Hey Todd, I'm glad that Castille to Castle pass worked in Madden '10, and Castille to Castle sounds good, but it's a really bad idea."

Or it means Pioli put a gun to Haley's head and said "Charlie's coming here, it's the Patriot Way. Capice?" And that will fuel months of rumors that the coach and GM haven't spoken to each other since January. :D

[Mr. Laz]

Is he a booth or sideline guy
for swearing's sake
booth i believe

i wonder if he is doing QB's too?

[Direckshun]

This makes our 5th overall pick veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeery interesting, assuming Clausen somehow falls past the Redskins.

[Mecca]

This team better find a DC because if we're stuck with Pendergast all of this means nothing.

[CaliforniaChief]

This team better find a DC because if we're stuck with Pendergast all of this means nothing.

Word.

[Bill Lundberg]

Considering ESPN said Bruce Arians had been fired in Pittsburgh, and then had to go, "WHOOPS, SORRY!" I'll wait until it's official and a statement is released by the team.

this

[Direckshun]

I think the Rams might go with Suh instead of Clausen, but it's very unlikely the Redskins pass on QB, and with Locker going back to school, I don't think there's any way Clausen falls to us.

[DeezNutz]

This team better find a DC because if we're stuck with Pendergast all of this means nothing.

We don't need to go that far.

If this team has an '09 repeat in the draft and FA, all of this means nothing.

[58kcfan89]

I'm excited about this. Now bring in Romeo and the offseason's off to a great start.

[Titty Meat]

It's not official until Nick Athan says it.

[OnTheWarpath15]

I think the Rams might go with Suh instead of Clausen, but it's very unlikely the Redskins pass on QB, and with Locker going back to school, I don't think there's any way Clausen falls to us.

I'd actually be shocked if the Rams don't take Suh.

[Titty Meat]

Kcchiefs.com has confirmed it? According to Soren Petro.

[Mecca]

We don't need to go that far.

If this team has an '09 repeat in the draft and FA, all of this means nothing.

That too, so Scott Pioli better do more than eat spaghetti this offseason.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

I'd actually be shocked if the Rams don't take Suh.

Haven't they[Suh/Rams] been already talking numbers?

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Not my first choice, but far from my last.

I remember him on the sidelines in NE, which could make for some awesome fireworks with Haley.

The only thing that concerns me is the very high % that Haley gets shitcanned after next year and we give our Rooney interview to Crennel and the job to Weis.

FWIW, they mentioned this on The Doug Gottlieb Show, and the words were as follows:

"You get the feeling that Scott Pioli is treating this like The Blues Brothers. Lets get the band back together."

[Titty Meat]

That too, so Scott Pioli better do more than eat spaghetti this offseason.

How bout Chicken Spadini?

[Sure-Oz]

Apparently Haley was the one pushing to get Weiss, that is a surprise that he would be the one and not Pioli imo.

[warrior]

this

Its all over ESPN------:rolleyes:

['Hamas' Jenkins]

I think the Rams might go with Suh instead of Clausen, but it's very unlikely the Redskins pass on QB, and with Locker going back to school, I don't think there's any way Clausen falls to us.

There is a less than 5% chance that Pioli admits he fucked up with Cassel this quickly.

[ChiefsCountry]

I think the Rams might go with Suh instead of Clausen, but it's very unlikely the Redskins pass on QB, and with Locker going back to school, I don't think there's any way Clausen falls to us.

Redskins will go after Vick. He fits Shanny's offense perfect.

[DeezNutz]

"You get the feeling that Scott Pioli is treating this like The Blues Brothers. Lets get the band back together."

There's no question that this is the case.

So, fine: no excuses.

[Mecca]

Not my first choice, but far from my last.

I remember him on the sidelines in NE, which could make for some awesome fireworks with Haley.

The only thing that concerns me is the very high % that Haley gets shitcanned after next year and we give our Rooney interview to Crennel and the job to Weis.

FWIW, they mentioned this on The Doug Gottlieb Show, and the words were as follows:

"You get the feeling that Scott Pioli is treating this like The Blues Brothers. Lets get the band back together."

It's the 52nd incarnation of the NWO.

[CaliforniaChief]

Not my first choice, but far from my last.

I remember him on the sidelines in NE, which could make for some awesome fireworks with Haley.

The only thing that concerns me is the very high % that Haley gets shitcanned after next year and we give our Rooney interview to Crennel and the job to Weis.

FWIW, they mentioned this on The Doug Gottlieb Show, and the words were as follows:

"You get the feeling that Scott Pioli is treating this like The Blues Brothers. Lets get the band back together."

Last year one of the hot coaching names was Todd Bowles from Miami. Do you think he would be a good DC for us? I mean, he does fit the Pioli Rule requirement of Miami, NE, Arizona, or Dallas.

[keg in kc]

FTR, if in fact this happens, and it all but seems like a formality at this point, I think Weis is a good get. This time around, I think they actually got the best guy for the job.

Crennel, OTOH?

Not so much.Whether Crennel is the best guy or not is debatable, but I think it's safe to say he'd be a much, much more qualified hire than Pendergast. I mean, shit, we've had a 4-3 coordinator running the 3-4 all year.

Although in the end, I think these coaching hires are primarily window dressing, and the real improvement, if there's going to be any, will come from personnel moves. I have always thought - and will always think - that talent wins games in the end. Regardless of who the coaches are. Guys can sometimes be coached up (or down), but I've always believed that at the end of the day, great players make great coaches.

[SDChiefs]

I'm betting that Weis is still hungry.

The only reason he is coming is for the KC BBQ.

[carlos3652]

Considering ESPN said Bruce Arians had been fired in Pittsburgh, and then had to go, "WHOOPS, SORRY!" I'll wait until it's official and a statement is released by the team.

but you trust Athan?

[booger]

Al Groh could be in play as well, havn't heard much of him and where he's going to end up. I think the Phins have one of their LB coaches leaving so they could very well get him instead.

[Titty Meat]

There is a less than 5% chance that Pioli admits he ****ed up with Cassel this quickly.

Hopefully Cassel cheats on his wife and she bashes out the windows in his Suv. That'll get him shit canned.

[Mr. Laz]

PER ESPNNEWS!

Weis accepts job with Chiefs

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[Direckshun]

There is a less than 5% chance that Pioli admits he ****ed up with Cassel this quickly.

I would think Weis gives him an out, wouldn't you.

[Dayze]

to the ship!

hope it's a big ship

['Hamas' Jenkins]

So, fine: no excuses.

Just wait...

[Mecca]

So will Haley make him go to fat camp too?

[aturnis]

YAY!

[keg in kc]

I would think Weis gives him an out, wouldn't you.You don't get an out for a player you brought in yourself. If this was a Leinart situation it would be different, but Cassel's his hand-picked guy.

[-King-]

He'll also be our starting center. Great news. 2 needs filled with one hire.
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[bevischief]

This team better find a DC because if we're stuck with Pendergast all of this means nothing.


THIS

[DeezNutz]

Earlier today, someone posted that the "right 53" now means pants size.

Pretty good...

[ChiefsCountry]

I would think Weis gives him an out, wouldn't you.

Nope. Cassel will be the last man standing other than Pioli. He dug his own grave with Cassel.

[HolmeZz]

It's really to bad this isn't a year or 2 from now Kyle Rudolph and Michael Floyd, I'd take them.

Heh, with the exception of running back, Weis is probably downgrading from an offensive skill position standpoint. Clausen, Tate, Floyd, and Rudolph would probably all be upgrades for this offense.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

I would think Weis gives him an out, wouldn't you.

It's possible, but very, very low.

Let's not forget that this is the same team that had Cassel give a PC where he bashed all of the fans for getting on him, and who graded him w/o a single mistake in a game where he threw 4 interceptions.

Besides, with fat Charlie's "decided schematic advantage" we could run Cassel out there and win 12 games a year.

I still think it's gonna be Terrance Cody. Too many connections, too myopic of a draft record.

[-King-]

If weis eats cassel, can we get out of paying him 63 million?
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[Titty Meat]

There will be alot of animosity between Whitlock & Weis over the last donut.

[keg in kc]

Cody would be even worse than Okung. I don't think either happens.

[Mecca]

Heh, with the exception of running back, Weis is probably downgrading from an offensive skill position standpoint. Clausen, Tate, Floyd, and Rudolph would probably all be upgrades for this offense.

I don't disagree, I do think Rudolph and Floyd will be outstanding NFL players though.

[The Franchise]

Heh, with the exception of running back, Weis is probably downgrading from an offensive skill position standpoint. Clausen, Tate, Floyd, and Rudolph would probably all be upgrades for this offense.

I'd take all four of them. Like you said....they're all instant upgrades.

[Direckshun]

It's possible, but very, very low.

Let's not forget that this is the same team that had Cassel give a PC where he bashed all of the fans for getting on him, and who graded him w/o a single mistake in a game where he threw 4 interceptions.

Besides, with fat Charlie's "decided schematic advantage" we could run Cassel out there and win 12 games a year.

I still think it's gonna be Terrance Cody. Too many connections, too myopic of a draft record.

Cynicism, Thy Name is Hamas.

[The Franchise]

I don't disagree, I do think Rudolph and Floyd will be outstanding NFL players though.

Hopefully we can grab Floyd next year.

[bevischief]

The only reason he is coming is for the KC BBQ.

We have lots of it too...:D

[Titty Meat]

Hamas do you really think this team can win 12 games with Cassel?

[bevischief]

So will Haley make him go to fat camp too?

The greatest loser...

[Direckshun]

I'd put the Chiefs chances of picking up Clausen at about 1% before the Weis hire.

I don't know where I'd put it now. 15%? 20%? I'm more optimistic on that front than most.

It's about 1% chance he falls to us, though. So it's moot.

[Mr. Laz]

Cynicism, Thy Name is Hamas.http://gargarstegosaurus.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/hamlet-and-friend1.jpg

[keg in kc]

Hamas do you really think this team can win 12 games with Cassel?This team couldn't win 12 games with Peyton Manning.

They gots lots to do.

[ChiefsCountry]

I still think it's gonna be Terrance Cody. Too many connections, too myopic of a draft record.

Just wait Berry will on board as well and we take the fat turd from Bama.

[Titty Meat]

This aint good for Mecca's USC.

[Iowanian]

I'm not going to say he's going to make the chiefs the 2003 offense, but this move makes alot of sense.

I think this is a good start for the offseason. CW can get his ass in here, start working with scouts, attend the allstar games and have a jump on the time to help get "his guys" for the draft.

Similar systems, previous history.....and he's got legit NFL OC experience.

[Mecca]

Just wait Berry will on board as well and we take the fat turd from Bama.

If that happens, I will turn off the tv and go mow the lawn.

[keg in kc]

If that happens, I will turn off the tv and go mow the lawn.I'd probably break my TV. With my forehead.

[Mecca]

This aint good for Mecca's USC.

What?

[Titty Meat]

Now the Chiefs don't have to draft McCalin. They can dick around for a few years and draft the Hawaiian guy Weis recruited this year whos a beast :)

[booger]

I'm not going to say he's going to make the chiefs the 2003 offense, but this move makes alot of sense.

I think this is a good start for the offseason. CW can get his ass in here, start working with scouts, attend the allstar games and have a jump on the time to help get "his guys" for the draft.

Similar systems, previous history.....and he's got legit NFL OC experience.

pretty much how i feel about it.

[Titty Meat]

What?

I will bet Chicago goes after Jeremy Bates.

[Deberg_1990]

cant wait to see Brady Quinn in Chiefs Red!

[-King-]

If that happens, I will turn off the tv and go mow the lawn.

If I were you i'd stay away from the lawn mower and all other things sharp and with blades.
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[talastan]

Why would we necessarily jump on Clausen. Didn't Weis work with later draft picks for QBs in all of his tenures. Didn't he also work with Cassel in New England? Just curious.....

[Mecca]

Bates was kind of bland as an OC this year to be honest with you.

[Titty Meat]

Bates was kind of bland as an OC this year to be honest with you.

Didn't he have to be with a freshmen QB?

[Mecca]

If I were you i'd stay away from the lawn mower and all other things sharp and with blades.
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I fully expect the team to do something epically retarded, that is the Chiefs way.

[Terribilis]

How bout Chicken Spadini?
"Chicken Spadini will travel" /clogged artery

[FAX]

Weis is fine, but this doesn't help us fix the sod at Arrowhead.

FAX

[soundmind]

I think this hire helps immensely when April rolls around.

[KC kid]

If that happens, I will turn off the tv and go mow the lawn.

I am sure your mom will appreciate you doing something around the house.

[FAX]

Weis is fine, but it doesn't keep people from standing up at games.

FAX

[Mecca]

Weis can do commercials for Gunts.

[Bill Lundberg]

Its all over ESPN------:rolleyes:

No, it says "Sources" which when coming from ESPN mean about as much to me as Nick Athan's "Spies".

It's probably a done deal, but it would be nice to see it somewhere else

[Deberg_1990]

Weis is fine, but this doesn't help us fix the sod at Arrowhead.

FAX

So we should have hired George Toma as offensive coordinator??

[Titty Meat]

What do you guys think about Bowe working with Weis? I just don't see them working together.

[ChiefsCountry]

This is a good hire for the Chiefs. Weis is a solid offensive coordinator, can't blame them too much on this one. I wonder if they will bring in Brady Quinn? If they can get him from Cleveland for say a 5th round pick - it might be worth it.

[Fritz88]

Pandergast out or we are going nowhere.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Hamas do you really think this team can win 12 games with Cassel?

If you put him in a Baltimore 2000 type situation, maybe.

Matt Cassel is just a guy. That's all he is. The hubris that it takes to install him as the handpicked guy and give him that contract before he'd taken a snap is astronomical.

FWIW, I fully expect us to run the 2002 variation of the Patriots O. If you guys remember the '02 opener was the opening of Gillette Stadium. The Patriots came out in shotgun and just slung the ball around all game (and all year), never throwing more than 10 yards downfield.

That game the guys in the booth started the first wholesale blowing of Weis for his scheme in that game, which helped them beat Pittsburgh. That's where the myth of Weis was born.

Of course they went 9-7 that year and missed the playoffs, but....

[Sure-Oz]

I think the Weis hire is very good. However, I want to caution fans that the personnel in NE was vastly better than the Chiefs have.

per bob fescoe twitter

[luv]

:thumb:

[ModSocks]

What do you guys think about Bowe working with Weis? I just don't see them working together.

why not? Any WR should be able to work with any OC. It's not like we're talking about a QB here.

[Mr. Laz]

Pandergast out or we are going nowhere.:rolleyes:

[Titty Meat]

If you put him in a Baltimore 2000 type situation, maybe.

Matt Cassel is just a guy. That's all he is. The hubris that it takes to install him as the handpicked guy and give him that contract before he'd taken a snap is astronomical.

FWIW, I fully expect us to run the 2002 variation of the Patriots O. If you guys remember the '02 opener was the opening of Gillette Stadium. The Patriots came out in shotgun and just slung the ball around all game (and all year), never throwing more than 10 yards downfield.

That game the guys in the booth started the first wholesale blowing of Weis for his scheme in that game, which helped them beat Pittsburgh. That's where the myth of Weis was born.

Of course they went 9-7 that year and missed the playoffs, but....



So you liked the hire.

[bevischief]

Weis can do commercials for Gunts.

For your (insert company name) the official buffet of the Chiefs...

[googlegoogle]

We are NotreDame now.

[Mecca]

For your (insert company name) buffet...

He better give us royalties.

[HolmeZz]

If that happens, I will turn off the tv and go mow the lawn.

At 8 o'clock at night?

[Titty Meat]

why not? Any WR should be able to work with any OC. It's not like we're talking about a QB here.

Isn't the guy you throw the ball to 5 yards down the field and let him make plays. Theres alot of value there to be traded.

[Bill Lundberg]

cbssportsline.com
foxsports.com
cnnsi.com
kcchiefs.com

None of the above are reporting this. Surely it would get some mention if it were done right?

[Mecca]

At 8 o'clock at night?

That's the best time to do it!

[ModSocks]

If you put him in a Baltimore 2000 type situation, maybe.

Matt Cassel is just a guy. That's all he is. The hubris that it takes to install him as the handpicked guy and give him that contract before he'd taken a snap is astronomical.

FWIW, I fully expect us to run the 2002 variation of the Patriots O. If you guys remember the '02 opener was the opening of Gillette Stadium. The Patriots came out in shotgun and just slung the ball around all game (and all year), never throwing more than 10 yards downfield.

That game the guys in the booth started the first wholesale blowing of Weis for his scheme in that game, which helped them beat Pittsburgh. That's where the myth of Weis was born.

Of course they went 9-7 that year and missed the playoffs, but....


It's funny that you mention that. I keep hearing about how weis has the same offensive philosophy has Haley, but Haley attacks downfield while Weiss dinks and dunks his way downfield.

I don't understand how there philosophies are the same, but ok. If Haley says they're the same and Haley's hiring him....ok, sure.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

cbssportsline.com
foxsports.com
cnnsi.com
kcchiefs.com

None of the above are reporting this. Surely it would get some mention if it were done right?

Haley pretty much gave it away during the presser this afternoon during his ball washing of weis

[BigRedChief]

No, it says "Sources" which when coming from ESPN mean about as much to me as Nick "Assclown" Athan's "Spies".

It's probably a done deal, but it would be nice to see it somewhere else:cuss: I told the Planet this 3 days ago.

[Mecca]

Haley pretty much gave it away during the presser this afternoon during his ball washing of weis

I'm surprised he could find his balls.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

So you liked the hire.

It's ok. It's not terrible, but it's not the home run people are claiming it to be, either.

I still think we're on the fast track to building a team with a ceiling of 10 wins and a first round playoff exit. Or as Chief fans call it, utopia.

[Bill Lundberg]

:cuss: I told the Planet this 3 days ago.

So you're the source?

[ModSocks]

Isn't the guy you throw the ball to 5 yards down the field and let him make plays. Theres alot of value there to be traded.

No. Bowe IS the guy you throw the ball to 5 yards downfield and let home make a play. That's exactly his game. He is a big body that usually breaks the first tackle. He doesn't have elite speed to spread the field, which is probably why he struggled a bit in Haley's system.

Gaily used Bowe in that short passing game, possibly the same way Weiss may use him.

[DeezNutz]

:cuss: I told the Planet this 3 days ago.

Well done, dude.

[FAX]

Hiring Weis is fine, but it doesn't keep you from puking on your shoes.

FAX

[bevischief]

He better give us royalties.

Leftover food for kids charity ...

[Titty Meat]

It's ok. It's not terrible, but it's not the home run people are claiming it to be, either.

I still think we're on the fast track to building a team with a ceiling of 10 wins and a first round playoff exit. Or as Chief fans call it, utopia.

You going to training camp next year? We're gonna get drunk before practice and hurl fat jokes at Charlie.

[SDChiefs]

:cuss: I told the Planet this 3 days ago.

I'm sorry, did you say something?

[rockymtnchief]

cbssportsline.com
foxsports.com
cnnsi.com
kcchiefs.com

None of the above are reporting this. Surely it would get some mention if it were done right?

It's the Chiefs. Nobody reports anything they do unless they need a filler in their news.:(

[Mr. Laz]

i think the hiring of Weis could allow the Chiefs to select clausen and get away with it.


that said, i doubt clausen drops to 5th ... but if he does the Chiefs just say "When a talent drops to you sometimes you take a player you don't necessarily look at as a primary need. The fact that we have a coach that is very familiar with the talent makes the selection even easier"

:shrug:

[Mr. Laz]

:cuss: I told the Planet this 3 days ago.
don't worry BRC ... we believe you, we love you, we need to caress ...


eh, i've said too much. :redface:

['Hamas' Jenkins]

You going to training camp next year? We're gonna get drunk before practice and hurl fat jokes at Charlie.

I go to St. Joseph two times per year.

Once, to celebrate birthdays on my wife's dad's side of the family w/ her grandparents, and once to do her dad's side of the family Christmas.

You couldn't draw me into that shit hole with a fucking tractor beam otherwise.

[The Franchise]

:cuss: I told the Planet this 3 days ago.

Rep man....rep.

[Bill Lundberg]

It's the Chiefs. Nobody reports anything they do unless they need a filler in their news.:(

Yes, it's the Chiefs, but it also indirectly involves Notre Dame and the Patriots so if it were "official" everyone would be reporting it.

[Direckshun]

It's the Chiefs. Nobody reports anything they do unless they need a filler in their news.:(

If Berry's off the board, I think you have to go Spiller or Clausen, assuming either are still there.

[Mr. Laz]

Yes, it's the Chiefs, but it also indirectly involves Notre Dame and the Patriots so if it were "official" everyone would be reporting it.http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4802526

[HolmeZz]

Clausen could certainly fall to #5, particularly now that he's going to need surgery and won't be able to throw for teams until April(best case scenario).

['Hamas' Jenkins]

To be honest, the Rams would probably be best served in the short term (and maybe even the long term) by signing Jason Campbell in FA and drafting Suh. Campbell gets a lot of shit, but he's actually not a bad player.

[blazzin311]

Well, I for one am okay with this hire. On a side note, does anyone think this hire might improve the chances of the Chiefs drafting Golden Tate somewhere to use as a percy harvin/ or perhaps welker type/ slot WR?

[nychief]

Golden Tate, please.

[Bill Lundberg]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4802526

Wow. Earth-shattering (According to sources)

[blazzin311]

Golden Tate, please.

That's what I'm thinking.

[DrRyan]

It's ok. It's not terrible, but it's not the home run people are claiming it to be, either.

I still think we're on the fast track to building a team with a ceiling of 10 wins and a first round playoff exit. Or as Chief fans call it, utopia.

What the **** leads you to this deduction? Please break it down for us all...

By hiring Weis we have fast tracked to a team that can win no more than 10 games? Huh? :)

[Jerm]

Like the hire a lot...excited for the offseason to get going now. I think he'll be nothing but good for Cassel and help turn him around.

Also promising that the Chiefs didn't reall wait around and were proactive in bringing Weis into the fold...although I suspect this has been in the works for a while.

Time to shitcan Clancy and find a legit DC now.
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[Mr. Laz]

Wow. Earth-shattering (According to sources)
now you're just being a pain

[Sure-Oz]

It's likely to be a New England reunion: Now that Charlie Weis has agreed to work in Kansas City, Romeo Crennel will not be far behind. less than 20 seconds ago from UberTwitter

per adam schefters twitter

[Titty Meat]

I go to St. Joseph two times per year.

Once, to celebrate birthdays on my wife's dad's side of the family w/ her grandparents, and once to do her dad's side of the family Christmas.

You couldn't draw me into that shit hole with a ****ing tractor beam otherwise.

Damn that bad huh?

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Clausen could certainly fall to #5, particularly now that he's going to need surgery and won't be able to throw for teams until April(best case scenario).

I just can't imagine Clausen getting past Mike Shanahan.

He drafted Jay Cutler with a team that went to the AFC Championship.

New regimes mean new quarterbacks.

[Bill Lundberg]

now you're just being a pain
;)

I'm just saying espn is often wrong and no one else is reporting it... Except for message board personality Big Red Chief whom I give more credit to than espn

[Mr. Flopnuts]

FTR, if in fact this happens, and it all but seems like a formality at this point, I think Weis is a good get. This time around, I think they actually got the best guy for the job.

Crennel, OTOH?

Not so much.

This. Exactly.

[doomy3]

To be honest, the Rams would probably be best served in the short term (and maybe even the long term) by signing Jason Campbell in FA and drafting Suh. Campbell gets a lot of shit, but he's actually not a bad player.

I agree. I don't think Campbell's a bad QB.

[doomy3]

I'm pretty damn happy about this news too.

[Mr. Laz]

It's likely to be a New England reunion: Now that Charlie Weis has agreed to work in Kansas City, Romeo Crennel will not be far behind. less than 20 seconds ago from UberTwitter

per adam schefters twitter
anyone else think that Shefter is kinda a greasy little weasel?

[-King-]

I go to St. Joseph two times per year.

Once, to celebrate birthdays on my wife's dad's side of the family w/ her grandparents, and once to do her dad's side of the family Christmas.

You couldn't draw me into that shit hole with a fucking tractor beam otherwise.

ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL

Man I wish I wasn't on my phone so I could give you rep
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['Hamas' Jenkins]

What the **** leads you to this deduction? Please break it down for us all...

By hiring Weis we have fast tracked to a team that can win no more than 10 games? Huh? :)

Sure.

We have a defense with no playmakers.

We have an offense with one playmaker, and one guy who could be a playmaker if he cared more and wasn't targeted like a 5th option.

We have a regime with a history of drafting 3-4 lineman in the first round, but who haven't produced a pass rusher of their own in well....ever.

Who was the last 3-4 edge rusher NE drafted that made any impact?

We have a QB with the keys to the franchise who is basically a homeless man's Rich Gannon.

I think that we could build the 1997 Chiefs without Derrick Thomas.

That's probably a 10 win team.

[ModSocks]

To be honest, the Rams would probably be best served in the short term (and maybe even the long term) by signing Jason Campbell in FA and drafting Suh. Campbell gets a lot of shit, but he's actually not a bad player.

I agree. He flashes his talent. I was listening on the radio this morning and someone mentioned that he has had 4 offensive coordinators in 4 years in college, and then a diff coordinator every year in the pros.

I kinda feel bad for the dude. What a wast of talent.

[Titty Meat]

Are you talking about 10 wins next year or 10 wins is the most this regime will ever win in a season?

[Mr. Laz]

man, i just hope this means we can work on improving our techniques on offense.

cassel's footwork is crap,his play-action-pass fake is almost non-existent, the offensive line can't hide a screen worth a crap etc etc. :banghead:

['Hamas' Jenkins]

I agree. I don't think Campbell's a bad QB.

You couldn't put a guy in a worse situation.

Before the draft last year, I compared Freeman to Campbell, and it turns out that I think I was right, but for the wrong reasons. Campbell and Freeman are both better than I thought, as it turns out.

[Bill Lundberg]

I agree. He flashes his talent. I was listening on the radio this morning and someone mentioned that he has had 4 offensive coordinators in 4 years in college, and then a diff coordinator every year in the pros.

I kinda feel bad for the dude. What a wast of talent.

Hell I'd take him right now. For "competition" you know cuz it makes us stronger...

[The Franchise]

I agree. He flashes his talent. I was listening on the radio this morning and someone mentioned that he has had 4 offensive coordinators in 4 years in college, and then a diff coordinator every year in the pros.

I kinda feel bad for the dude. What a wast of talent.

I think if Shanny is smart....he'll keep the kid and see what he's got.

[Jerm]

It's likely to be a New England reunion: Now that Charlie Weis has agreed to work in Kansas City, Romeo Crennel will not be far behind. less than 20 seconds ago from UberTwitter

per adam schefters twitter

nWo 4 4 4 Liiifffeee!!!
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[Titty Meat]

man, i just hope this means we can work on improving our techniques on offense.

cassel's footwork is crap,his play-action-pass fake is almost non-existent, the offensive line can't hide a screen worth a crap etc etc. :banghead:

I don't think this team has ran a successful screen since 2006.

[The Bad Guy]

I didn't tell you 3 days ago before BRC did, but I did say it from my source at around 1:30 today.

[Titty Meat]

nWo 4 4 4 Liiifffeee!!!
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LEts dump tea in the Harbor!

[SDChiefs]

To be honest, the Rams would probably be best served in the short term (and maybe even the long term) by signing Jason Campbell in FA and drafting Suh. Campbell gets a lot of shit, but he's actually not a bad player.

Is he going to be a UFA if there is no CBA? Im not sure.

[ModSocks]

Sure.

We have a defense with no playmakers.

We have an offense with one playmaker, and one guy who could be a playmaker if he cared more and wasn't targeted like a 5th option.

We have a regime with a history of drafting 3-4 lineman in the first round, but who haven't produced a pass rusher of their own in well....ever.

Who was the last 3-4 edge rusher NE drafted that made any impact?

We have a QB with the keys to the franchise who is basically a homeless man's Rich Gannon.

I think that we could build the 1997 Chiefs without Derrick Thomas.

That's probably a 10 win team.

Maybe a 10 win team in 2011. Maybe a 13 win team in 2012. And then BAHM! the world ends in route to our first superbowl. Sucks being a Chiefs fan.

[Pioli Zombie]

Vince Wilfork???
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[WilliamTheIrish]

Big deal. Show me on the field. I watched this board welcome the return of an aviator glasses wearing moron, hailing him as a savior. I didn't fall for it when Carl did it, and I won't fall for it on this hire.

Prove it to me, Chiefs. You no longer deserve the faith of this fan.

[seaofred]

I love this hire.

[Sure-Oz]

Big deal. Show me on the field. I watched this board welcome the return of an aviator glasses wearing moron, hailing him as a savior. I didn't fall for it when Carl did it, and I won't fall for it on this hire.

Prove it to me, Chiefs. You no longer deserve the faith of this fan.

But gun said he'd eat their heart and soul and shit

[Jerm]

LEts dump tea in the Harbor!

That's a supa mad wicka'd idea man.

Gotta get the language down.
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[Titty Meat]

That's a supa mad wicka'd idea man.

Gotta get the language down.
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I'm busy cakn partna

[seaofred]

It's now on www.nfl.com. Link: http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8158df28&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Are you talking about 10 wins next year or 10 wins is the most this regime will ever win in a season?

10 is the most we'll ever get with this team. Maybe Pioli gets a second build, but w/ Matt Cassel at the helm and no outside rushers, I don't see us ever doing more than that.

[Galileo Humpkins]

It's the 52nd incarnation of the NWO.

But who's the third man, Schiavone?!

[HolmeZz]

I just can't imagine Clausen getting past Mike Shanahan.

He drafted Jay Cutler with a team that went to the AFC Championship.

New regimes mean new quarterbacks.

I don't doubt Shanahan will be looking quarterback, I've just heard he's enamored with Bradford.

[Titty Meat]

10 is the most we'll ever get with this team. Maybe Pioli gets a second build, but w/ Matt Cassel at the helm and no outside rushers, I don't see us ever doing more than that.

Hopefully the Chiefs don't make the same mistake they did in 2006 and overlook Dumervil who led the NCAA in sacks. Von Miller will be a good outside linebacker.

[DrRyan]

We have a regime with a history of drafting 3-4 lineman in the first round, but who haven't produced a pass rusher of their own in well....ever.


So, what you are saying is that one year's draft a is a history of drafting 3-4 linemen in the first round?

Dorsey was not drafted as a 3-4 lineman. The only 3-4 lineman the Chiefs have ever drafted in the first round was Tyson Jackson. I was not a fan of that pick at the time and am not a fan of it now.

You would not call Tamba Hali a pass rusher of their own? He certainly is not DeMarcus Ware, but he is a pass rusher.

Your cynicism never grows old...

I am not even remotely suggesting that the Weis hire wins the AFCW next year, a couple playoff games and a trip to the super bowl. The defense is a huge problem, but suggesting this team is building for a 10 win ceiling because the defense is awful before any FA acquisitions and the draft in the Charlie Weis OC thread is laughable.

[Sure-Oz]

Kent Babb's thoughts next on 810 with Jason Anderson

[BigChiefFan]

This is a good hire. Weis and Haley will be on the same page and that should give the team some continuity. Weis also brings a certain amount of expertise and credibility to the coaching staff. Nice move.

[Titty Meat]

Kent Babb's thoughts next on 810 with Jason Anderson

Kent Babb might as well be Nick Athan. Seriously Babbs takes are awful.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

You just can't fuck with this decided schematic advantage.

[Just Passin' By]

;)

I'm just saying espn is often wrong and no one else is reporting it... Except for message board personality Big Red Chief whom I give more credit to than espn

Here you go:

Charlie Weis has agreed to become the Chiefs' offensive coordinator, a team source confirmed to NFL Network's Michael Lombardi.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8158df28&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true

[DeezNutz]

We're going to win an additional 3-4 games next year because of coaching alone.

[KC kid]

[QUOTE='Hamas' Jenkins;6416259]You couldn't put a guy in a worse situation.'QUOTE]

See: Cassel,Matt

[BigChiefFan]

We also now have the inside track on Clausen.

[Bill Lundberg]

Here you go:



http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8158df28&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true

Thank you captain Repost

[Titty Meat]

This is a good hire. Weis and Haley will be on the same page and that should give the team some continuity. Weis also brings a certain amount of expertise and credibility to the coaching staff. Nice move.

Whats the word on Crennel, insider?

[RustShack]

Pioli + Haley + Wies + Crennel + Clausen = CHAMPIONSHIP's

['Hamas' Jenkins]

I don't doubt Shanahan will be looking quarterback, I've just heard he's enamored with Bradford.

Good thing he has a 2nd round pick.

[Just Passin' By]

Thank you captain Repost

When did NFL.com become the same exact thing as ESPN?

[Bill Lundberg]

When did NFL.com become the same exact thing as ESPN?

I'll spell it out for you
http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=6416305&postcount=183

[HemiEd]

That too, so Scott Pioli better do more than eat spaghetti this offseason.

JFC give it a rest, damn.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

So, what you are saying is that one year's draft a is a history of drafting 3-4 linemen in the first round?

Dorsey was not drafted as a 3-4 lineman. The only 3-4 lineman the Chiefs have ever drafted in the first round was Tyson Jackson. I was not a fan of that pick at the time and am not a fan of it now.

You would not call Tamba Hali a pass rusher of their own? He certainly is not DeMarcus Ware, but he is a pass rusher.

Your cynicism never grows old...

I am not even remotely suggesting that the Weis hire wins the AFCW next year, a couple playoff games and a trip to the super bowl. The defense is a huge problem, but suggesting this team is building for a 10 win ceiling because the defense is awful before any FA acquisitions and the draft in the Charlie Weis OC thread is laughable.

No, I'm going off of NE's drafting history (since we give Pioli credit when talking about his input on NE's draft, except when they're bad) as well as his history here.

Again, show me one 3-4 OLB that anyone in New England or with this regime has drafted who was a real threat to rush the passer.

This league is about three things: Having a great QB, protecting the QB, and rushing the QB.

We don't have 1, 1 obviates 2 in many cases (notice Cassel's sacks taken stats in NE), and our decision makers have shown no aptitude of getting 3.

[Bill Lundberg]

Hypothetical question for the experts -

What if Mangini gets canned by the Browns? Do you pursue him or Crennel for DC? I can't imagine anyone giving Mangini another HC job after what happened in Cleveland assuming he isn't retained.

[DaneMcCloud]

Bad Fucking Ass!

['Hamas' Jenkins]

And since when did this regime draft Tamba Hali?

[Titty Meat]

Hypothetical question for the experts -

What if Mangini gets canned by the Browns? Do you pursue him or Crennel for DC? I can't imagine anyone giving Mangini another HC job after what happened in Cleveland assuming he isn't retained.

No I thought it was documented that Pioli and the rest of the Kansas City Patriots hate Mangini after he ratted on the mothership.

[DeezNutz]

Hypothetical question for the experts -

What if Mangini gets canned by the Browns? Do you pursue him or Crennel for DC? I can't imagine anyone giving Mangini another HC job after what happened in Cleveland assuming he isn't retained.

I will throw the fuck up if Mangini is even seriously considered, let alone hired.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

http://www.footballnewsnow.com/2010/charlie-weis-becomes-chiefs-offensive-coordinator/

Charlie Weis Becomes Chiefs Offensive Coordinator

Charlie Weis
Former Notre Dame head coach Charlie Weis has agreed to become the new offensive coordinator of the Kansas City Chiefs.

An official announcement is expected within the next 24-48 hours according to ESPN’s Chris Mortensen.

“He’s a coach that system-wise, I would say we’re as close as you can be,” Chiefs coach Todd Haley said Wednesday before word of Weis’ hiring leaked. “Charlie’s a guy I consider a friend and I’ve talked to throughout the year, no different from some of the other guys I lean on for things and advice.”

Weis is inheriting a quarterback in Matt Cassel who is familiar with his style of offense from his days with the New England Patriots, although he was drafted after Weis left for South Bend.

Perhaps that will help the last offseason’s big free agent acquisition improve in 2010.

Adam Schefter of ESPN reports that Romeo Crennel will also be joining the Chiefs as the defensive coordinator shortly.

[Titty Meat]

Bad ****ing Ass!

Really?

[the Talking Can]

The problem with our offense at the end of the season was not haley's play calling - except for some obvious wtf moments - but the QB's execution of the play calls. How many tds did Cassel leave on the field with agressive down field plays calls?

The opening drive in denver was brilliant, and Haley has proven he can call a game that maximizes Charles abilities, even with sub-par talent almost everywhere.

I wish he'd keep calling plays. And it isn't clear to me that Weiss is an upgrade during the game, and may in fact be less aggressive which will inevitably raise another chorus of whining.

But, organizationally, by reducing Haley's work load and maybe even helping to buffer the players from his caustic side a bit, it could help Haley to get his shit together and focus.

I mean, i don't know, but it's hypothetically possible.

It's nice to see them doing something, i guess, and proof that Haley was being candid when he said he'd likely eventually bring in a OC, but please god tell me we're bringing in a new DC where the need is 100 times greater.

[The Franchise]

Bad Fucking Ass!

Mark it down......

On January 6th 2010......DaneMcCloud was happy with a move the Chiefs made. :D

['Hamas' Jenkins]

[quote='Hamas' Jenkins;6416259]You couldn't put a guy in a worse situation.'QUOTE]

See: Cassel,Matt

Cassel was in the same system for the first 4 years of his career.

He also had a hell of a lot more to work with this year alone on the OL and skill positions than Campbell did in Washington.

[Titty Meat]

The problem with our offense at the end of the season was not haley's play calling - except for some obvious wtf moments - but the QB's execution of the play calls. How many tds did Cassel leave on the field with agressive down field plays calls?

The opening drive in denver was brilliant, and Haley has proven he can call a game that maximizes Charles abilities, even with sub-par talent almost everywhere.

I wish he'd keep calling plays. And it isn't clear to me that Weiss is an upgrade during the game, and may in fact be less aggressive which will inevitably raise another chorus of whining.

But, organizationally, by reducing Haley's work load and maybe even helping to buffer the players from his caustic side a bit, it could help Haley to get his shit together and focus.

I mean, i don't know, but it's hypothetically possible.

It's nice to see them doing something, i guess, and proof that Haley was being candid when he said he'd likely eventually bring in a OC, but please god tell me we're bringing in a new DC where the need is 100 times greater.

I can't think of a better coach to help Cassel than Charlie Weis.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

In defense of Mangini, I do find it rather impressive he was able to take those scrubs to 4 straight wins to end the season.

But I think Holmgren will get rid of him, and I don't want him anywhere near KC.

[Just Passin' By]

No, I'm going off of NE's drafting history (since we give Pioli credit when talking about his input on NE's draft, except when they're bad) as well as his history here.

Again, show me one 3-4 OLB that anyone in New England or with this regime has drafted who was a real threat to rush the passer.

This league is about three things: Having a great QB, protecting the QB, and rushing the QB.

We don't have 1, 1 obviates 2 in many cases (notice Cassel's sacks taken stats in NE), and our decision makers have shown no aptitude of getting 3.

Depends on how you look at the words "real threat", I suppose.

Tully Banta-Cain had 9.5 sacks this season.


However, given that the Patriots under Belichick generally brought in veteran linebackers rather than drafting them prior to Mayo, it's sort of a non-issue. The team didn't fail at drafting such players in any grand sense, because they didn't make the attempt.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Mangini has been blacklisted from the tree.

[Bill Lundberg]

No I thought it was documented that Pioli and the rest of the Kansas City Patriots hate Mangini after he ratted on the mothership.

Good point, I'd forgotten about that

[the Talking Can]

I can't think of a better coach to help Cassel than Charlie Weis.

well, true and i honestly didn't even think about that angle.....

[DeezNutz]

The problem with our offense at the end of the season was not haley's play calling - except for some obvious wtf moments - but the QB's execution of the play calls. How many tds did Cassel leave on the field with agressive down field plays calls?

The opening drive in denver was brilliant, and Haley has proven he can call a game that maximizes Charles abilities, even with sub-par talent almost everywhere.

I wish he'd keep calling plays. And it isn't clear to me that Weiss is an upgrade during the game, and may in fact be less aggressive which will inevitably raise another chorus of whining.

But, organizationally, by reducing Haley's work load and maybe even helping to buffer the players from his caustic side a bit, it could help Haley to get his shit together and focus.

I mean, i don't know, but it's hypothetically possible.

It's nice to see them doing something, i guess, and proof that Haley was being candid when he said he'd likely eventually bring in a OC, but please god tell me we're bringing in a new DC where the need is 100 times greater.

I completely agree that Haley CAN call a damn good game. But the WTF moments, I hope, have to be the direct result of him trying to do too much.

How else can you explain comments like, "I called TO to decide whether to punt or kick a FG." Seriously, Todd? Motherfuck.

The Chiefs are instantly better right now. And this really isn't meant as glowing praise of Weis.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Mangini has been blacklisted from the tree.

LMAO

"Hey Scott. It's Eric. You guys find a real D coordinator yet? I should be near the top of the tree."

"Sure Eric. The AIDS Tree."

Click.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Depends on how you look at the words "real threat", I suppose.

Tully Banta-Cain had 9.5 sacks this season.

Tully Banta-Cain, the 29 year old OLB, almost doubled his career sack total this year and still didn't get to 10.

:facepalm:

[Titty Meat]

Now lets hire a D-cordinator and let Pioli scout and target free agents and hope next year is alot better than last year. I'm tired of losing I want to argue with everyone about how far we'll go in the playoffs dammit.

[the Talking Can]

I completely agree that Haley CAN call a damn good game. But the WTF moments, I hope, have to be the direct result of him trying to do too much.

How else can you explain comments like, "I called TO to decide whether to punt or kick a FG." Seriously, Todd? Mother****.

The Chiefs are instantly better right now. And this really isn't meant as glowing praise of Weis.

right, it's probably a net gain in the end.....

[DeezNutz]

"That dude's a Chauncey."

"Billups?"

"Naw, a bitch ass Chauncey."

The exchange that goes through my mind everytime I think of Clancy: A bitch ass Clancy.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Now lets hire a D-cordinator and let Pioli scout and target free agents and hope next year is alot better than last year. I'm tired of losing I want to argue with everyone about how far we'll go in the playoffs dammit.

If this team doesn't go .500 next year, there's nothing to argue about.

[Titty Meat]

If this team doesn't go .500 next year, there's nothing to argue about.

It would be amazing if the Chiefs win 8 games next year.

[DeezNutz]

If this team doesn't go .500 next year, there's nothing to argue about.

Flopnuts has been consistent with his .500 gauntlet.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Depends on how you look at the words "real threat", I suppose.

Tully Banta-Cain had 9.5 sacks this season.


However, given that the Patriots under Belichick generally brought in veteran linebackers rather than drafting them prior to Mayo, it's sort of a non-issue. The team didn't fail at drafting such players in any grand sense, because they didn't make the attempt.

Shawn Crable was a massive failure, that's for sure.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

It would be amazing if the Chiefs win 8 games next year.

Flopnuts has been consistent with his .500 gauntlet.

If they win 7, I won't freak. If they win less than that, I'm going to fucking struggle.

[Titty Meat]

If they win 7, I won't freak. If they win less than that, I'm going to ****ing struggle.

7 wins would be awsome. Thats more then they've won in 2.5 years.

[BigChiefFan]

Whats the word on Crennel, insider?Crennel is our first choice and they are trying to work out the details of a contract. Since he is still owed money from the Browns, working out the specifics is more detailed than usual. He's allowed his agent to field calls for his services, but he's leaning towards the Chiefs. In fact, I would say it's all but done.

[Titty Meat]

Crennel is our first choice and they are trying to work out the details of a contract. Since he is still owed money from the Browns, working out the specifics is more detailed than usual. He's allowed his agent to field calls for his services, but he's leaning towards the Chiefs. In fact, I would say it's all but done.

I'm gonna have to write you a check next christmas seriously. I value your insight and how accurate it is compared to you know whos.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

I'm gonna have to write you a check next christmas seriously. I value your insight and how accurate it is compared to you know whos.

This.

[HemiEd]

cbssportsline.com
foxsports.com
cnnsi.com
kcchiefs.com

None of the above are reporting this. Surely it would get some mention if it were done right?

They had it on Sirius NFL network at 5.30

[DeezNutz]

Crennel is our first choice and they are trying to work out the details of a contract. Since he is still owed money from the Browns, working out the specifics is more detailed than usual. He's allowed his agent to field calls for his services, but he's leaning towards the Chiefs. In fact, I would say it's all but done.

Insider? Huh?

[Just Passin' By]

Tully Banta-Cain, the 29 year old OLB, almost doubled his career sack total this year and still didn't get to 10.

:facepalm:

As I said... depends on how you look at the words. However, Belichick's first draft with the team was in 2001. Here are all the LB's drafted and the round taken, regardless of ILB or OLB projection:

2000: Casey Tisdale: round 7
2001: T.J. Turner: compensatory round 7
2003: Tully Banta-Cain: round 7
2005: Ryan Claridge: Round 5
2006: Jeremy Mincey: Round 6
2007: Justin Rogers: Round 6
2007: Oscar Lua: Round 7
2008: Jerod Mayo: Round 1
2008: Shawn Crable: Round 3
2008: Bo Ruud: Round 6
2009: Tyrone Mckenzie: Round 3


That's every linebacker drafted under Belichick. Only 3 were drafted in the 'first day', and 2 of them (Crable, McKenzie) have been held back by injury. Mayo, an ILB, was DPOY. McKenzie, projected to be an inside LB, got hurt even before getting to his first training camp. Crable was injured as a rookie, never really saw the field, and then got hurt again and ended up on IR. This year, he suffered another season ending injury, even before getting a chance to get into any game situation.

So, sure you can say that the team hasn't really drafted pass rushing OLBs if you ignore or minimize what Banta-Cain did this season, but it's not as if they've been repeatedly trying with top picks and completely failing.

[Sam Hall]

We have hired Jabba the Hutt.

[booger]

Hypothetical question for the experts -

What if Mangini gets canned by the Browns? Do you pursue him or Crennel for DC? I can't imagine anyone giving Mangini another HC job after what happened in Cleveland assuming he isn't retained.

Personally I think Crennel is who they will probably focus in on. Possibly as just a DL and Associate HC instead of DC. He was rumored to join Weis's staff at ND as just a DL coach there. The article i read on that said at this stage of his career he would be content as just a position coach instead of DC. I don't know how the past year away from football could have affected that. DC for him still makes the most sense.

As others have mentioned, Todd Bowles DB/asst. hc Phins. He is being groomed for the future DC when Paul Pasqueloni retires or moves on. I have my doubts that Pioli or haley would hire him with the chance Parcells wants to promote him in the future, it might ruffle feathers w/Parcells. I don't think they would take a chance on that.

As far as Cleveland, Rob Ryan their DC. If a new HC goes to Cleveland he may be available. When he was DC in Oakland, Don Martindale was the LB coach. He is now with Nolan and the Donks. He might be worth an interview.

Al Groh makes sense too. And if Pepper Johnson w/the pats is ready, Pioli would know.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Where is the gif of making his goofy smile face like he had just jihp?

[HemiEd]

man, i just hope this means we can work on improving our techniques on offense.

cassel's footwork is crap,his play-action-pass fake is almost non-existent, the offensive line can't hide a screen worth a crap etc etc. :banghead:

He stares down his primary receiver as well. Pretty fucking basic flaw.

[-King-]

Off topic: I don't see how people still buy WPI subscriptions. When was the last thing they broke?

I don't know why I had that thought. Just thinking about how weird it would be to pay for something and they don't even break any news.
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['Hamas' Jenkins]

As I said... depends on how you look at the words. However, Belichick's first draft with the team was in 2001. Here are all the LB's drafted and the round taken, regardless of ILB or OLB projection:

2000: Casey Tisdale: round 7
2001: T.J. Turner: compensatory round 7
2003: Tully Banta-Cain: round 7
2005: Ryan Claridge: Round 5
2006: Jeremy Mincey: Round 6
2007: Justin Rogers: Round 6
2007: Oscar Lua: Round 7
2008: Jerod Mayo: Round 1
2008: Shawn Crable: Round 3
2008: Bo Ruud: Round 6
2009: Tyrone Mckenzie: Round 3


That's every linebacker drafted under Belichick. Only 3 were drafted in the 'first day', and 2 of them (Crable, McKenzie) have been held back by injury. Mayo, an ILB, was DPOY. McKenzie, projected to be an inside LB, got hurt even before getting to his first training camp. Crable was injured as a rookie, never really saw the field, and then got hurt again and ended up on IR. This year, he suffered another season ending injury, even before getting a chance to get into any game situation.

So, sure you can say that the team hasn't really drafted pass rushing OLBs if you ignore or minimize what Banta-Cain did this season, but it's not as if they've been repeatedly trying with top picks and completely failing.

JFC, you dumb motherfucker, read my posts again.

They haven't been able to draft any impact OLBs.

Is Jerod Mayo an OLB?

No. So shut the fuck up about him.

Regardless of where they did or did not try to bring someone in, or if they were held back by injury or fucking cat AIDS, no one who they've drafted as a pass rusher has been an impact player.

[loce1959]

ROFLThey had to get him signed
before the cranes were done at Arrowhead



-Too soon?

ROFL

[booger]

Since Dedric Ward was demoted and Richie Anderson took over coaching WR's i wonder if they will keep Ward in another capacity or what happens with that situation. Wouldn't be suprised to see DA/Quality control coach Pat Perles switch to be Muir's asst on the OL. He also was a DL coach and LB's as well, Perles that is.

Anthony Pleasant probably has a good shot to stay on as OLB/DL coach. Possibly the main DL coach if Crennel as DC comes and he has a solid backgroud with DL.

Then maybe guys like Otis Smith and Corwin Brown coached DB's and both have previous connections to Haley, Pioli, and even Weis.

[Red Dawg]

The Patsification Continues...

Who gives a damn that he coached at NE. If it ends with 3 rings for us as well I doubt anyone would complain.

[Red Dawg]

Word.


100% correct. Crennel has 5 SB rings as a DC. That's gotta be a record and he would be a massive upgrade.

[Just Passin' By]

JFC, you dumb mother****er, read my posts again.

They haven't been able to draft any impact OLBs.

Is Jerod Mayo an OLB?

No. So shut the **** up about him.

Regardless of where they did or did not try to bring someone in, or if they were held back by injury or ****ing cat AIDS, no one who they've drafted as a pass rusher has been an impact player.

You really do struggle with reading comprehension, don't you?

So, sure you can say that the team hasn't really drafted pass rushing OLBs if you ignore or minimize what Banta-Cain did this season, but it's not as if they've been repeatedly trying with top picks and completely failing.

Seriously, how fucking tough a read is that sentence? Does the comma throw you off or something?

['Hamas' Jenkins]

You really do struggle with reading comprehension, don't you?



Seriously, how fucking tough a read is that sentence? Does the comma throw you off or something?

Show me where I've said they've spent a litany of top picks on them, fucktard.

Point it out. Once.

If not, then shut the fuck up, and go back to Pats Planet where you can wow the throngs with stories of how it feels when Pioli's dick works your uvula like a fucking speed bag.