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Amnorix
01-12-2010, 12:42 PM
Thought this article would be of general interest to Chiefs fans as well.



OK, so I've gotten a lot of questions on guys like Logan Mankins and Stephen Gostkowski, who have expiring contracts and would be unrestricted in old environment, but will be restricted if we get to the uncapped league year. The Patriots don't have the problems here that other clubs do (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/31/the-212-players-who-wont-be-unrestricted-free-agents/), but it's safe too assume Mankins and Gostkowski aren't pleased with the prospect of what will happen here.

Here's how it works ... A deadline comes in February for teams to tender one-year offers to their restricted free agents. There are four different levels for these offers. It's pretty simple -- The more money you offer, the higher draft pick compensation you attach to the player. Here's how it worked in 2009:

$2.792 Million: First- and Third-round draft picks
$2.198 Million: First-round draft pick
$1.545 Million: Second-round draft pick
$1.010 Million: Original draft round

The last number could be interesting with players like Logan Mankins, or Chargers linebacker Shawne Merriman, or Colts cornerback Marlin Jackson, or Dolphins running back Ronnie Brown.

Normally the "original draft pick" level was the lowest one, because RFAs were all third-year guys, and the only players, really, who enter the NFL on three-year deals are low draft picks or undrafted free agents. With fourth- and fifth-year guys included? You'll have ex-first-round picks in the mix. So they could be tendered at the lowest number, and have a prohibitive draft pick attached.

To be safe, it would reason that the Patriots would tender Mankins at the highest level, which would almost certainly be enough to keep other teams from signing him to an offer sheet, which New England would then have seven days to match.

There's a bit of an art to all this. Remember, Wes Welker was tendered at the second-round level by the Dolphins in 2007, a miscalculation of his value on the market that led to his departure for New England. If a team does it right, it can keep a valuable guy off the market at a bargain-basement rate, and that's where Mankins and Gostkowski are sure to have an issue here.

The Franchise
01-12-2010, 12:46 PM
So technically the Chargers could tender Merriman at the lowest and still get a 1st round pick out of it. It's a win-win for them.

OnTheWarpath15
01-12-2010, 12:46 PM
So technically the Chargers could tender Merriman at the lowest and still get a 1st round pick out of it. It's a win-win for them.

Same with us and DJ, though no one in their right minds would give that up.

carlos3652
01-12-2010, 12:48 PM
Can you say DJ RFA @ original Draft round...

The Franchise
01-12-2010, 12:49 PM
Can you say DJ RFA @ original Draft round...

I believe that OTWP58 already did...

carlos3652
01-12-2010, 12:49 PM
Dang it...

Mr. Laz
01-12-2010, 12:50 PM
So technically the Chargers could tender Merriman at the lowest and still get a 1st round pick out of it. It's a win-win for them.yep ... the Chiefs will do that same thing with Derrick Johnson.

CaliforniaChief
01-12-2010, 12:50 PM
Same with us and DJ, though no one in their right minds would give that up.

http://www.davesfootballblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/ackaldavis.jpg

carlos3652
01-12-2010, 12:50 PM
so essentailly this would have worked out great for King Carl, because he could keep all his 1st and 2nd round choices on the cheap and people wouldnt give up a first or a second for them...

carlos3652
01-12-2010, 12:53 PM
Is Colquitt a RFA?

The Franchise
01-12-2010, 12:53 PM
Is Colquitt a RFA?

Colquitt got a new deal last year.

carlos3652
01-12-2010, 12:55 PM
Round Selection Overall Position Player College
1 15 15 Linebacker Derrick Johnson Texas
3 35 99 Punter Dustin Colquitt Tennessee
4 15 116 Wide Receiver Craphonso Thorpe Florida State
5 2 138 Linebacker Boomer Grigsby Illinois State
5 11 147 Cornerback Alphonso Hodge Miami (OH)
6 13 187 Offensive tackle Will Svitek Stanford
6 25 199 Defensive end Khari Long Baylor
7 15 229 Quarterback James Kilian Tulsa
7 24 238 Offensive tackle Jeremy Parquet Southern Mississippi

Best draft ever!

carlos3652
01-12-2010, 12:58 PM
2nd best draft ever?
Round Pick Name Position College
1 23 Dwayne Bowe Wide receiver LSU
2 54 Claude "Turk" McBride Defensive end Tennessee
3 82[a] DeMarcus "Tank" Tyler Defensive tackle North Carolina State
5 148[a] Kolby Smith Running back Louisville
5 160b Justin Medlock Kicker UCLA
6 196 Herbert Taylor Offensive tackle TCU
7 231 Michael Allan Tight end

CoMoChief
01-12-2010, 12:59 PM
:(Round Selection Overall Position Player College
1 15 15 Linebacker Derrick Johnson Texas
3 35 99 Punter Dustin Colquitt Tennessee
4 15 116 Wide Receiver Craphonso Thorpe Florida State
5 2 138 Linebacker Boomer Grigsby Illinois State
5 11 147 Cornerback Alphonso Hodge Miami (OH)
6 13 187 Offensive tackle Will Svitek Stanford
6 25 199 Defensive end Khari Long Baylor
7 15 229 Quarterback James Kilian Tulsa
7 24 238 Offensive tackle Jeremy Parquet Southern Mississippi

Best draft ever!

carlos3652
01-12-2010, 12:59 PM
how can anyone look at 2009 and say that was the worst draft ever... ?

BigChiefFan
01-12-2010, 01:10 PM
They need to get the CBA worked out. This is some weak sauce for the NFL. Dare I say, Roger Goodell's NFL is becoming crap?

Mr. Laz
01-12-2010, 01:16 PM
Dear gawd

4 15 116 Wide Receiver Craphonso Thorpe Florida State
5 2 138 Linebacker Boomer Grigsby Illinois State
5 11 147 Cornerback Alphonso Hodge Miami (OH)
6 13 187 Offensive tackle Will Svitek Stanford
6 25 199 Defensive end Khari Long Baylor
7 15 229 Quarterback James Kilian Tulsa
7 24 238 Offensive tackle Jeremy Parquet Southern Mississippi

Mr. Laz
01-12-2010, 01:18 PM
2nd best draft ever?
Round Pick Name Position College
1 23 Dwayne Bowe Wide receiver LSU
2 54 Claude "Turk" McBride Defensive end Tennessee
3 82[a] DeMarcus "Tank" Tyler Defensive tackle North Carolina State
5 148[a] Kolby Smith Running back Louisville
5 160b Justin Medlock Kicker UCLA
6 196 Herbert Taylor Offensive tackle TCU
7 231 Michael Allan Tight end
Bowe,McBride,Tyler are all playing

Smith is good enough, it's just injuries

I think Medlock just needed more time

Taylor still has potiential imo

CaliforniaChief
01-12-2010, 01:18 PM
Dear gawd

4 15 116 Wide Receiver Craphonso Thorpe Florida State
5 2 138 Linebacker Boomer Grigsby Illinois State
5 11 147 Cornerback Alphonso Hodge Miami (OH)
6 13 187 Offensive tackle Will Svitek Stanford
6 25 199 Defensive end Khari Long Baylor
7 15 229 Quarterback James Kilian Tulsa
7 24 238 Offensive tackle Jeremy Parquet Southern Mississippi

OMG