Romeo Crennel agrees to terms with the Chiefs(?)

[KCrockaholic]

http://www.chiefscrowd.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=14803&Itemid=2

I noticed a lot of people in the other thread asking why today has been so quiet....

So here you go... A little more news.

Sorry if re-post.

[ModSocks]

To the Ship!

[TigerPig]

THE DEAL IS DONE!!!

Poor Pendergast. :(

[KCrockaholic]

I hope this Brandon Spano guy is correct...

[Titty Meat]

Never heard of Chiefscrowd

[LaChapelle]

.

[KCrockaholic]

Never heard of Chiefscrowd

check out chiefsinformer.com

[The Franchise]

About fucking time......Jesus.

[MahiMike]

Best offseason EVA!! (part deux)

[keg in kc]

Thank you for this refreshing rehashing of information we've already known for 24 hours, you lovely folks at chiefscrowd.

[WildTurkey]

Damn if only he could fix all of our past draft failures right Billay :)

[Extra Point]

Here comes a man-beast ILB, whoever he is!

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

I didn't click the link. Is it rumor or fact ?

[KCrockaholic]

Here comes a man-beast ILB, whoever he is!

Rolando McClain.

[KCrockaholic]

I didn't click the link. Is it rumor or fact ?

According to Brandon Spano...Fact.

[MahiMike]

now what are we gonna do the next 7 mos.?:shrug:

[TigerPig]

Best offseason EVA!! (part deux)

Last year was hard to beat. As long as CP resigned we could have gotten anyone as a head coach and passed up on all of our draft picks.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

According to Brandon Spano...Fact.

Is he related to Nick Athan ?

[KCrockaholic]

Is he related to Nick "Assclown" Athan ?

heh. Lets hope not.

[LaChapelle]

Popular dude,

Redskins made a run at Romeo

Posted by Mike Florio on January 12, 2010 6:30 PM ET

Though former Browns coach and former Patriots defensive coordinator Romeo Crennel is expected to join the Chiefs, another team with an American Indian nickname made a run at Romeo.

We're told the Redskins tried to land Crennel, an expert in the 3-4 defense that new coach Mike Shanahan is hoping to install.

The Redskins had been targeting Mike Zimmer, who has decided to stay with the Bengals. Former Saints coach Jim Haslett is now the front-runner.

[KCrockaholic]

Popular dude,

Redskins made a run at Romeo

Posted by Mike Florio on January 12, 2010 6:30 PM ET

Though former Browns coach and former Patriots defensive coordinator Romeo Crennel is expected to join the Chiefs, another team with an American Indian nickname made a run at Romeo.

We're told the Redskins tried to land Crennel, an expert in the 3-4 defense that new coach Mike Shanahan is hoping to install.

The Redskins had been targeting Mike Zimmer, who has decided to stay with the Bengals. Former Saints coach Jim Haslett is now the front-runner.

Buffalo Bills were also in the mix.

[luv]

now what are we gonna do the next 7 mos.?:shrug:

:hmmm:

[petegz28]

As usual, the KC Star is void of this topic

[Deberg_1990]

Clark throwin money around like a pimp!

[TigerPig]

As usual, the KC Star is void of this topic

So is NFL.com.

[KCrockaholic]

Clark throwin money around like a pimp!

He ain't afraid to go afta dem fatties.

[The Bad Guy]

He did agree to become the DC last night, but the money is not worked out. The only terms he's agreed to is he wants to come here.

[KCrockaholic]

He did agree to become the DC last night, but the money is not worked out. The only terms he's agreed to is he wants to come here.

So the DEAL ISN'T DONE, but it will be very shortly. Sounds good :thumb:

[luv]

As usual, the KC Star is void of this topic

So is NFL.com.

They probably get into more trouble passing off rumor as fact. If the money isn't worked out, then the deal is not done.

[luv]

And chiefscrowd.com is still around?

[KCrockaholic]

They probably get into more trouble passing off rumor as fact. If the money isn't worked out, then the deal is not done.

But the reports have stated that he has agreed to coach for the Chiefs in 2010. So although the deal in not done yet, this is going to be announced very soon. Probably tomorrow morning.

[Mr. Laz]

Popular dude,

Redskins made a run at Romeo Which makes no sense because he's already won a super bowl so he's doomed to fail now.

[petegz28]

They probably get into more trouble passing off rumor as fact. If the money isn't worked out, then the deal is not done.

Do I need to remind people of the Mike Shanahan\ESPN "The deal is done"?

[WildTurkey]

Which makes no sense because he's already won a super bowl so he's doomed to fail now.

don't forget that he is an ex Patriot which automatically means he sucks

[luv]

But the reports have stated that he has agreed to coach for the Chiefs in 2010. So although the deal in not done yet, this is going to be announced very soon. Probably tomorrow morning.

Then the deal will be done tomorrow.

[Mr. Laz]

don't forget that he is an ex Patriot which automatically means he sucks
thanks, i forgot ... i should be flogged for forgetting such a thing.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

I find it interesting that Mike Shanahan is wanting to play a 3-4 defense.

[rtmike]

Then there's this:

The Weis / Crennel reunion is complete. I have sources out of Denver with ties to the New York media, that have informed me that Romeo Crennel declined an official interview with the Giants as early as yesterday morning and will sign with the Chiefs today. One source said that coach Crennel has already agreed to terms with GM Scott Pioli, but is yet to sign anything official.

The Chiefs are one good off-season away, from being very competitive in 2010.

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http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4820464

Former Cleveland Browns coach Romeo Crennel has spoken to the New York Giants by telephone about their vacant defensive coordinator's job

[luv]

thanks, i forgot ... i should be flogged for forgetting such a thing.

With a wet noodle.

[LaChapelle]

If the Chiefs don't bag him now
Pioli is going to look bad
Human nature says it won't be forgotten quickly

[KCrockaholic]

Then there's this:

The Weis / Crennel reunion is complete. I have sources out of Denver with ties to the New York media, that have informed me that Romeo Crennel declined an official interview with the Giants as early as yesterday morning and will sign with the Chiefs today. One source said that coach Crennel has already agreed to terms with GM Scott Pioli, but is yet to sign anything official.

The Chiefs are one good off-season away, from being very competitive in 2010.

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http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4820464

Former Cleveland Browns coach Romeo Crennel has spoken to the New York Giants by telephone about their vacant defensive coordinator's job

That is the exact same text that was in my link from Chiefscrowd.

The first part anyway.

[rtmike]

That is the exact same text that was in my link from Chiefscrowd.

The first part anyway.


Yeah I know, but not the bottom part. Just put them together to show the contradiction.

[ChiefsCountry]

Personally I think this is a shitty hire, liked Charlie Weis not so much with Romeo.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Am I missing something or has Pendergass been officially fired ?

[TigerPig]

I find it interesting that Mike Shanahan is wanting to play a 3-4 defense.

3-4 + Haynesworth = :drool:

[KCrockaholic]

Personally I think this is a shitty hire, liked Charlie Weis not so much with Romeo.

Well your in that 99 to 1 ratio then.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Personally I think this is a shitty hire, liked Charlie Weis not so much with Romeo.

I'm not thrilled with the 3-4. I thought and still think it's a terrible fucking idea. That said, who's a better option for what Pioli wants to do? If he's going to go down this road, these are the 2 best guys to do it IMO.

[KCrockaholic]

Am I missing something or has Pendergass been officially fired ?

LMAO they are just going to treat him like the dude in office space...

"yeah, um, were just going to have you move your stuff to the basement..."

[WildTurkey]

LMAO they are just going to treat him like the dude in office space...

"yeah, um, were just have you move your stuff to the basement..."

I hope they remember to give the man his stapler

[ChiefsCountry]

I'm not thrilled with the 3-4. I thought and still think it's a terrible ****ing idea. That said, who's a better option for what Pioli wants to do? If he's going to go down this road, these are the 2 best guys to do it IMO.

Can Haley and hire Cowher if you want the best 3-4.

[TigerPig]

Can Haley and hire Cowher if you want the best 3-4.

Or better yet, why don't we can this Crennel guy and get that guy who was the d-coordinator for the patriots back when they won all of those Super Bow...err...nevermind.

[SAUTO]

Can Haley and hire Cowher if you want the best 3-4.

would cowher bring dick lebeau with him?

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Can Haley and hire Cowher if you want the best 3-4.

Yeah, but Scott wants to do it Dad's way. So I'm glad he's at least getting Dad's guys.

[kcchiefsus]

3-4 + Haynesworth = :drool:

Not to mention Brian Orakpo at OLB in the 3-4 where his pass rush opportunities should increase.

[ChiefsCountry]

would cowher bring dick lebeau with him?

Cowher did pretty good here without LeBeau.
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[bevischief]

Is he in Leawood yet looking at houses...

[L.A. Chieffan]

If this doesn't work out, then there is absolutely no excuses. They're bringing in all their guys, with their schemes and it's their way. No room for failure. Honestly if we dont win at least 9 games next year then the Patriots experiment is failed.

[keg in kc]

If this doesn't work out, then there is absolutely no excuses. They're bringing in all their guys, with their schemes and it's their way. No room for failure. Honestly if we dont win at least 9 games next year then the Patriots experiment is failed.I agree with you, but 9's a lot to ask from a 4-12 squad. That's more than double their wins from '09.

Not that 8-8 is going to be easy, either, which is what I'm expecting.

Either way, it's all going to come down to their personnel moves.

[LaChapelle]

He's looking at barges so he don't have to get into the Missouri-Kansas thing

[Sweet Dick Willy]

Were Pats defenses ever dominant under Crennel?

[TigerPig]

If this doesn't work out, then there is absolutely no excuses. They're bringing in all their guys, with their schemes and it's their way. No room for failure. Honestly if we dont win at least 9 games next year then the Patriots experiment is failed.

I don't think its a failure if we go 7-9. Maybe not happening as quickly as we thought, but not fail.

Plus, what if the schemes are great but Cassel can't throw them? Does the Patriots experiment fail or just the Cassel experiment?

[Sweet Dick Willy]

I don't think its a failure if we go 7-9. Maybe not happening as quickly as we thought, but not fail.

Plus, what if the schemes are great but Cassel can't throw them? Does the Patriots experiment fail or just the Cassel experiment?

Some think Pioli and Cassel are married. I hope to God they aren't.

[TheGuardian]

We have to get players in first guys. It doesn't matter if we have Lombardi reincarnate as a head coach with Bill Walsh as coordinator and Buddy Ryan as defensive coordinator. We have to get better players in here.

I'm more interested in seeing what the hell Pioli does this offseason after Romeo and Weis have had a chance to sit down and look at tape for a few months.

[Red Dawg]

Great hire! HOOOORAH!

[Sweet Dick Willy]

I'll say this; if Coors Light can't make Romeo look like an ass, he may very well the Greatest D-Coord the Chiefs have had since SchottenCower:


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[Hog's Gone Fishin]

We have to get players in first guys. It doesn't matter if we have Lombardi reincarnate as a head coach with Bill Walsh as coordinator and Buddy Ryan as defensive coordinator. We have to get better players in here.

I'm more interested in seeing what the hell Pioli does this offseason after Romeo and Weis have had a chance to sit down and look at tape for a few months.

Rex Ryan sure turned a miserable jets team into a legit contender overnight.

[Red Dawg]

Thbe deal is not done until ESPN say it is. I will not get too happy until then.

[SAUTO]

Rex Ryan sure turned a miserable jets team into a legit contender overnight.

i wouldnt call them miserable, they were 8-3 the year prior before farve got hurt
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[Brock]

Rex Ryan sure turned a miserable jets team into a legit contender overnight.

I think that boar jism has gone to your brain.

[TEX]

If this doesn't work out, then there is absolutely no excuses. They're bringing in all their guys, with their schemes and it's their way. No room for failure. Honestly if we dont win at least 9 games next year then the Patriots experiment is failed.

But no Head Coach in a hoodie and no real QB...

[Galileo Humpkins]

What we gon' do with all that junk? All that junk inside Crennel's trunk?

[TheGuardian]

How about this. Fucking ratboy himself has tried to step in and keep Romeo out of KC. What a POS Shanahan is. Feels like he's doing it as a favor to Bowlen to me.

[Agent V]

LMAO they are just going to treat him like the dude in office space...

"yeah, um, were just going to have you move your stuff to the basement..."

"We fixed the glitch."

[TheGuardian]

Rex Ryan sure turned a miserable jets team into a legit contender overnight.

Miserable like us? Hell no. That team was already loaded with defensive talent. Revis has been good pretty much since the day he was drafted and they grabbed Bart Scott in the offseason. That was not a team devoid of talent. And besides, defense is mostly about attitude up front but we do needs some linebackers. The Jets have THAT.

[Brock]

How about this. Fucking ratboy himself has tried to step in and keep Romeo out of KC. What a POS Shanahan is. Feels like he's doing it as a favor to Bowlen to me.

What do you mean by this?

[Sweet Dick Willy]

Rex Ryan sure turned a miserable jets team into a legit contender overnight.

Actually, there was a pretty good reservoir of talent there, he just brought some much needed focus, attitude, and swagger to the mix.

We talk about and hear a lot about "winning culture" from our GM in KC, and we also hear him say that the Head Coach is the focal-point of the responsibility of that endeavor.

The day that Haley steps to the podium and does not have that look of the weight of the world upon his shoulders, is the day when he will have finally grown in to his own skin with the job.

[TigerPig]

Actually, there was a pretty good reservoir of talent there, he just brought some much needed focus, attitude, and swagger to the mix.

We talk about and hear a lot about "winning culture" from our GM in KC, and we also hear him say that the Head Coach is the focal-point of the responsibility of that endeavor.

YEAH!!! Losing is a cancer, and is why Detroit has lost for so many years. When you play on a poor level for so long, you start going into the game expecting to lose. You usually have to overhaul the complete system in order to get that attitude out of there. Last year we did okay, and ending last year on such a dominant note was BY FAR one of the best things we could have done, cause now the team will walk around in the offseason with their dicks hanging a little lower than before.

Putting Weis and Crennel in there is completing the steps to revitalize this team. At a certain point it doesn't even matter if the new guy is better or worse, just as long as he's different.

[keg in kc]

Were Pats defenses ever dominant under Crennel?In 2001 (his first year) they were 24th in yards (actually one behind grob's first year in KC) and 6th in points (yeah, ah, let's not discuss our scoring d then).

2002 they were 23rd in yards, 17th in points

2003 they were 7th in yards, 1st in points

2004 they were 9th in yards, 2nd in points

As I recall he took the Browns job in 2005, and their D (meaning the Patriots) was generally considered one of the elites by that point. I've slept a lot since then, but my recollection was that they were hard to run on, ran crazy blitzes against the pass. But Belichick was usually talked about as the mastermind.

[ChiefGator]

... now the team will walk around in the offseason with their dicks hanging a little lower than before.

Well... that's ... uhh... good!.... right?

[TigerPig]

Well... that's ... uhh... good!.... right?

... yeah. That's what I meant, cause instead of a 6 incher, they've got a full 12 going. Big dick = confidence, you know?

Sometimes I say some messed up stuff. I need a better internal filter. Stupid ADHD

[luv]

... yeah. That's what I meant, cause instead of a 6 incher, they've got a full 12 going. Big dick = confidence, you know?

Sometimes I say some messed up stuff. I need a better internal filter. Stupid ADHD

It's not the size, it's what you do with it.

[TigerPig]

It's not the size, it's what you do with it.

:shake:

[luv]

:shake:

That should say size means nothing unless you can do something with it.

[Rausch]

Well your in that 99 to 1 ratio then.

So am I.

And it's YOU'RE you fucking jackass...

[TigerPig]

That should say size means nothing unless you can do something with it.

No comment :doh!:

[Coogs]

The Chiefs are one good off-season away, from being very competitive in 2010.

There's the understatement of the year.

[Iowanian]

Hey Hey Hey....Welcome to Kaaaaaaaaaaaaaaansas Citay

http://www.fastcharacters.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/famous-cartoon-character-fat-albert.jpg

[luv]

... yeah. That's what I meant, cause instead of a 6 incher, they've got a full 12 going. Big dick = confidence, you know?

Sometimes I say some messed up stuff. I need a better internal filter. Stupid ADHD

That should say size means nothing unless you can do something with it.

No comment :doh!:

What? Your analogy is a good one. What one woman thinks is huge and wonderful could do nothing for the next girl. While I'm optimisitic due to the "size", I'm holding judgement until I see some action.

[DeezNutz]

YEAH!!! Losing is a cancer, and is why Detroit has lost for so many years.

Yawn.

http://unsportsmanlikecomment.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/thenatural.jpeg

[CrazyHorse]

Yeah I know, but not the bottom part. Just put them together to show the contradiction.

Theres no contradiction there. If anything, it is confirmation.

[TigerPig]

What? Your analogy is a good one. What one woman thinks is huge and wonderful could do nothing for the next girl. While I'm optimisitic due to the "size", I'm holding judgement until I see some action.

I see what you're saying... :) But your action doesn't even have to be as good if your size can compensate for it... You know what, lets just stop with the similes and just talk football. :)

[Rausch]

There's the understatement of the year.

Or the mantra of the last 22 offseasons...

[luv]

I see what you're saying... :) But your action doesn't even have to be as good if your size can compensate for it... You know what, lets just stop with the similes and just talk football. :)

I was talking football.

Anyway, you started it.

[TigerPig]

Yawn.

http://unsportsmanlikecomment.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/thenatural.jpeg

Do you disagree? If you do I suggest you watch the fourth quarter of a Lions game. They give up on themselves, and its because they're so used to losing they think they're supposed to. They have no confidence or swagger, something I think the Denver win gave us heading into the offseason.

[DeezNutz]

Do you disagree? If you do I suggest you watch the fourth quarter of a Lions game. They give up on themselves, and its because they're so used to losing they think they're supposed to. They have no confidence or swagger, something I think the Denver win gave us heading into the offseason.

Yes, "changing the culture" is a bunch of horse shit and is something that teams with limited talent talk about. Well, that and weight loss.

Detroit has a strong infusion of talent. When said talent develops a bit more and starts to realize its potential, the "culture" will magically be changed.

One game isn't going to have a carry-over effect. Getting more talented players will, though.

[DTLB58]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d815b088b&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true

Former Cleveland Browns coach Romeo Crennel has spoken to the New York Giants by telephone about their vacant defensive coordinator job, but he's giving the Kansas City Chiefs the first shot at hiring him.

Crennel's agent, Joe Linta, said in an e-mail to The Associated Press on Tuesday that Crennel talked to the Giants on Monday. However, Linta said Crennel is focused on becoming the Chiefs' defensive coordinator.


Paul Spinelli / Associated Press
Romeo Crennel went 24-40 in four years as the Browns' head coach before he was fired after the 2008 season.

NFL Network's Jason La Canfora reports that Crennel is in discussions with the Chiefs, but the sides don't have a deal at this point, according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

Chiefs coach Todd Haley has yet to clarify the status of current defensive coordinator Clancy Pendergast, who's still on staff.

Last week, the Chiefs hired former Notre Dame coach Charlie Weis as their offensive coordinator. Weis previously was the offensive coordinator in New England under Bill Belichick at the same time that Crennel coordinated the Patriots' defense.

Chiefs general manager Scott Pioli was the Patriots' director of player personnel when Weis and Crennel were coordinators.

The Giants also interviewed Bills interim head coach Perry Fewell for their defensive coordinator job, which opened when Bill Sheridan was fired the day after the regular season ended.

Fewell also interviewed for the Chicago Bears' defensive coordinator job.

The Giants gave up 427 points, ranking third from the bottom in the NFL. Only the Detroit Lions and St. Louis Rams gave up more points. Opponents scored at least 40 points in five games against the Giants, the first time that has happened to the franchise since 1966.

The Giants also fired defensive line coach Mike Waufle, who interviewed for the same job with the Washington Redskins on Monday, a source with knowledge of the situation told La Canfora.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

[DaneMcCloud]

Well your in that 99 to 1 ratio then.

Make that two.

I love the Weis hire and expect it to pay great dividends this season.

I'm lukewarm on Crennel. I would have rather seen Todd Bowles or an equally inspired hire.

Color me neutral on this hire.

[DaneMcCloud]

If this doesn't work out, then there is absolutely no excuses. They're bringing in all their guys, with their schemes and it's their way. No room for failure. Honestly if we dont win at least 9 games next year then the Patriots experiment is failed.

This is eerily reminiscent of the Dick Vermeil years. All those guys worked together forever and all earned one big final paycheck.

Let's hope this doesn't end like that did.

[dirk digler]

wow I have never heard of ChiefsCrowd it seems like a happening place

[DeezNutz]

wow I have never heard of ChiefsCrowd it seems like a happening place

Perhaps someone should provide the link for some of our NE friends?

[Galileo Humpkins]

But your action doesn't even have to be as good if your size can compensate for it...

Spoken like someone who's never delved into a Jane Austen novel. http://i49.tinypic.com/35iadl5.jpg

[Farzin]

I cannot believe how many people are buying into this, considering the source. Who knows? Maybe they really are the first to find out and post it. I'd be puzzled as to why it would be them first. But I still won't buy it until a more reliable source says something other than what has been said a thousand times.

[DeezNutz]

I cannot believe how many people are buying into this, considering the source. Who knows? Maybe they really are the first to find out and post it. I'd be puzzled as to why it would be them first. But I still won't buy it until a more reliable source says something other than what has been said a thousand times.

We have better sources: two posters on here.

It's a lock. Trust the Planet.

[dirk digler]

Perhaps someone should provide the link for some of our NE friends?

LMAO That is not very nice

[OnTheWarpath15]

Make that two.

I love the Weis hire and expect it to pay great dividends this season.

I'm lukewarm on Crennel. I would have rather seen Todd Bowles or an equally inspired hire.

Color me neutral on this hire.

Make it three.

I'm pretty neutral on the Crennel hire. Not thrilled, but not upset either.

My concern is that if you take the 5 defenses he was the DC of, and average out their rankings, you find that they are pretty average.

18th in Total Defense.
18th in Rush Defense.
16th in Pass Defense.
11th in points.

Nothing to get overly excited about, but I'm curious as to what he does with this bunch.

[luv]

wow I have never heard of ChiefsCrowd it seems like a happening place

I used to post there. I was too "realistic" minded for them. Homer heaven over there. Or used to be.

[Farzin]

We have better sources: two posters on here.

It's a lock. Trust the Planet.
I imagine George Blowfi..I mean Fred is a source. Good enough to have his run-in with Haley recognized on one of the highest watched sports source on TV in the KC area.

[DeezNutz]

LMAO That is not very nice

Nah, I'm trying to be helpful.

I just received a text alert that Pioli's balls were going to make an exclusive appearance at ChiefsCrowd and figured some of our betters might be interested.

[dirk digler]

I used to post there. I was too "realistic" minded for them. Homer heaven over there. Or used to be.

So WPI Jr?

[Sweet Dick Willy]

In 2001 (his first year) they were 24th in yards (actually one behind grob's first year in KC) and 6th in points (yeah, ah, let's not discuss our scoring d then).

2002 they were 23rd in yards, 17th in points

2003 they were 7th in yards, 1st in points

2004 they were 9th in yards, 2nd in points

As I recall he took the Browns job in 2005, and their D (meaning the Patriots) was generally considered one of the elites by that point. I've slept a lot since then, but my recollection was that they were hard to run on, ran crazy blitzes against the pass. But Belichick was usually talked about as the mastermind.


But did they make you want to stand up, beer in hand, and scream "Ameri-ca...FUCK YEAH"!

This is eerily reminiscent of the Dick Vermeil years. All those guys worked together forever and all earned one big final paycheck.

Let's hope this doesn't end like that did.

Knowing your success rate, I am hoping that you are speculating and not forecasting.

Perhaps someone should provide the link for some of our NE friends?

Oh please Sweet Tebow yes.

[dirk digler]

But did they make you want to stand up, beer in hand, and scream "Ameri-ca...FUCK YEAH"!




If we have back to back Top 10 defenses and being 1st and 2nd in points yeah I would scream "Ameri-ca...FUCK YEAH"!

They also were 6th in sacks in 03 and 3rd in 04.

[luv]

So WPI Jr?

Worse, IMO.

[milkman]

wow I have never heard of ChiefsCrowd it seems like a happening place

I don't know who started the place up, but I know that Greg63 is an administrator there.

I'm also pretty sure that halfwit is a mod, and anyplace that has that dumbass as a mod has to be the mecca of dumbassery.

[milkman]

Make it three.

I'm pretty neutral on the Crennel hire. Not thrilled, but not upset either.

My concern is that if you take the 5 defenses he was the DC of, and average out their rankings, you find that they are pretty average.

18th in Total Defense.
18th in Rush Defense.
16th in Pass Defense.
11th in points.

Nothing to get overly excited about, but I'm curious as to what he does with this bunch.

I'm fairly neutral on the hire as well.

I prefer a more aggressive style of defense.

But, at the same time, anyone but Cunther Gunningham is an upgrade.

[OnTheWarpath15]

I'm fairly neutral on the hire as well.

I prefer a more aggressive style of defense.

But, at the same time, anyone but Cunther Gunningham is an upgrade.

Yeah, we thought that this time last year.

Didn't work out so well.

DISCLAIMER: I am not comparing RAC to Gunther, nor to Pendergast.

[The Bad Guy]

I'm fairly neutral on the hire as well.

I prefer a more aggressive style of defense.

But, at the same time, anyone but ****her Gunningham is an upgrade.

According to the Patriots fans I know, his style is aggressive.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

I tried to register over there but I couldn't. Disabled by admin.

[Sweet Dick Willy]

If we have back to back Top 10 defenses and being 1st and 2nd in points yeah I would scream "Ameri-ca...FUCK YEAH"!

They also were 6th in sacks in 03 and 3rd in 04.

I miss screaming "FUCK YEAH" on a regular basis...

[milkman]

Yeah, we thought that this time last year.

Didn't work out so well.

DISCLAIMER: I am not comparing RAC to Gunther, nor to Pendergast.

You know, as bad as the defense was this season, it really was actually better than Cunther's.

Not much, but it was.

So we were, in fact, right.

[milkman]

According to the Patriots fans I know, his style is aggressive.

Crennell (and the Hoodie) threw in some blitzes and the corners played a physical style that one could misconstue as aggressive, but the reality is, it really was a rather passive style of defense that they played overall.

[DeezNutz]

And who is going to anchor the line?

In all seriousness, I think McClain is damn near a lock to be our pick at #5. Cody in the second?

[CaliforniaChief]

And who is going to anchor the line?

In all seriousness, I think McClain is damn near a lock to be our pick at #5. Cody in the second?

Would you be ok with McClain if Berry's off the board?

[SenselessChiefsFan]

And who is going to anchor the line?

In all seriousness, I think McClain is damn near a lock to be our pick at #5. Cody in the second?


I would be okay with McClain. That said, I would still prefer Berry.

[dirk digler]

And who is going to anchor the line?

In all seriousness, I think McClain is damn near a lock to be our pick at #5. Cody in the second?

I like McClain that wouldn't be a bad pick even though that goes against your playmaker criteria.

Of course this all depends on if Berry is available or not.

[DeezNutz]

Would you be ok with McClain if Berry's off the board?

It'd be fine. Good player. Instant upgrade.

I think there are better choices at #5, simply b/c I don't think a guy like Spikes is a big enough drop off to justify taking McClain that high, but...we've done worse.

No freaking out from this cat, if that's the choice.

[OnTheWarpath15]

You know, as bad as the defense was this season, it really was actually better than Cunther's.

Not much, but it was.

So we were, in fact, right.

Not by much is right.

5 total yards per game better.

2.4 rushing yards per game better.

2.5 passing yards per game better.

1 point against per game better.

I wouldn't be patting myself on the back for "being right" if I were those folks.

[doomy3]

And who is going to anchor the line?

In all seriousness, I think McClain is damn near a lock to be our pick at #5. Cody in the second?

McClain in the first and Cody in the second would be OK with me, if Berry is off the board.

[CaliforniaChief]

Not by much is right.

5 total yards per game better.

2.4 rushing yards per game better.

2.5 passing yards per game better.

1 point against per game better.

I wouldn't be patting myself on the back for "being right" if I were those folks.

Progress. :D

[OnTheWarpath15]

Progress. :D

LMAO

You think it's funny, but some slapdick will legitimately try to claim just that.

[DeezNutz]

McClain in the first and Cody in the second would be OK with me, if Berry is off the board.

And then a safety. Stuckey, maybe.

Not a terrible first couple of rounds.

[milkman]

Not by much is right.

5 total yards per game better.

2.4 rushing yards per game better.

2.5 passing yards per game better.

1 point against per game better.

I wouldn't be patting myself on the back for "being right" if I were those folks.

I get that.

I'm just sayin'

[doomy3]

And then a safety. Stuckey, maybe.

Not a terrible first couple of rounds.

Yeah, we need one of those too.

Of course, we could also use a WR and a pass rusher.

I wouldn't mid it going:

1: McClain
2A: Cody
2B: Norwood/Kindle/Graham/Tate/Gilyard
3: Cross your fingers that one of the guys from 2B is still sitting there.

[DeezNutz]

Yeah, we need one of those too.

Of course, we could also use a WR and a pass rusher.

I wouldn't mid it going:

1: McClain
2A: Cody
2B: Norwood/Kindle/Graham/Tate/Gilyard
3: Cross your fingers that one of the guys from 2B is still sitting there.

Too many needs. Too few selections. :shake:

[OnTheWarpath15]

Yeah, we need one of those too.

Of course, we could also use a WR and a pass rusher.

I wouldn't mid it going:

1: McClain
2A: Cody
2B: Norwood/Kindle/Graham/Tate/Gilyard
3: Cross your fingers that one of the guys from 2B is still sitting there.

I'm not sure some of those guys will even be available at 2a.

This whole "not having a NT" thing is going to fuck us, I'm afraid. Unless by some act of God one becomes available via FA and actually wants to come here.

Otherwise, we're using a pick that could be taking a possible playmaker like the guys you listed, and wasting it.

[milkman]

Yeah, we need one of those too.

Of course, we could also use a WR and a pass rusher.

I wouldn't mid it going:

1: McClain
2A: Cody
2B: Norwood/Kindle/Graham/Tate/Gilyard
3: Cross your fingers that one of the guys from 2B is still sitting there.

If I were drafting right now, using Walter's most recent mock as a guide, this is how my first 5 picks would look.

1.Eric Berry SS
2.Jason Fox OT
2.Mardy Gilyard WR
3.Eric Norwood OLB
4.Eric Olsen C

[OnTheWarpath15]

Too many needs. Too few selections. :shake:

Had someone not been asleep at the wheel in 2009, we may not have had so many needs.

Just getting one or two of those needs filled last year out of 45+ attempts would have given us much more flexibility this year.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

If I were drafting right now, using Walter's most recent mock as a guide, this is how my first 5 picks would look.

1.Eric Berry SS
2.Jason Fox OT
2.Mardy Gilyard WR
3.Eric Norwood OLB
4.Eric Olsen C

Eric doesn't like drafting all those dudes named Eric.

[DaFace]

Is there any actual new news here? Sounds like basically a fan forum that's hearing the same things we are, but not anything concrete.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Is there any actual new news here? Sounds like basically a fan forum that's hearing the same things we are, but not anything concrete.

No, there's nothing concrete that I've heard. This thread title should be changed.

[doomy3]

If I were drafting right now, using Walter's most recent mock as a guide, this is how my first 5 picks would look.

1.Eric Berry SS
2.Jason Fox OT
2.Mardy Gilyard WR
3.Eric Norwood OLB
4.Eric Olsen C

That looks pretty damn good.

Like OTWP said though, we do need to get a NT either in FA or the draft too.

[milkman]

Eric doesn't like drafting all those dudes named Eric.

Why the hell not?

We drafted a bunch of Brandon/en's just a couple of years ago.

[DaFace]

No, there's nothing concrete that I've heard. This thread title should be changed.

I added a question mark to at least indicate that it's not for sure.

[milkman]

That looks pretty damn good.

Like OTWP said though, we do need to get a NT either in FA or the draft too.

No question.

However, If I'm in charge of the draft I'm not reaching for a NT if there's better value at other positions.

This is a process, after all.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Why the hell not?

We drafted a bunch of Brandon/en's just a couple of years ago.

Heh, that's an old school CP reference. Anyone remember that doucher?

I added a question mark to at least indicate that it's not for sure.

I noticed that, but it was after I posted. Go mod!

[OnTheWarpath15]

If I were drafting right now, using Walter's most recent mock as a guide, this is how my first 5 picks would look.

1.Eric Berry SS
2.Jason Fox OT
2.Mardy Gilyard WR
3.Eric Norwood OLB
4.Eric Olsen C

Holy Mary Mother of Fuck.

Taylor Mays dropping to our 2nd R2 pick?

Walter is on some serious shit this year.

[The Bad Guy]

I would take Tate over Gilyard all day, every day.

I would also sign Casey Hampton, who might be the only FA DT that hits the market. Franklin scares the hell out of me because he really only came on in a contract year. Reminds me a lot of Grady Jackson in that regard.

[OnTheWarpath15]

No question.

However, If I'm in charge of the draft I'm not reaching for a NT if there's better value at other positions.

This is a process, after all.

This.

Kinda like reaching for a 5-technique.

[doomy3]

I would take Tate over Gilyard all day, every day.

I would also sign Casey Hampton, who might be the only FA DT that hits the market. Franklin scares the hell out of me because he really only came on in a contract year. Reminds me a lot of Grady Jackson in that regard.

Yeah, if we can get one of Hampton, Wilfork, or Franklin, that would be huge so we could use the draft to address other needs.

[milkman]

I would take Tate over Gilyard all day, every day.

I would also sign Casey Hampton, who might be the only FA DT that hits the market. Franklin scares the hell out of me because he really only came on in a contract year. Reminds me a lot of Grady Jackson in that regard.

I'm not a fan of Golden Tate at all.

I like Gilyard as both a slot receiver and returner.

[doomy3]

Had someone not been asleep at the wheel in 2009, we may not have had so many needs.

Just getting one or two of those needs filled last year out of 45+ attempts would have given us much more flexibility this year.

This.

Kinda like reaching for a 5-technique.

Serious question:

Is there going to be any point where you just move on from complaining about the draft a year ago, and focus on this draft?

[doomy3]

I'm not a fan of Golden Tate at all.

I like Gilyard as both a slot receiver and returner.

What is it you don't like about Tate?

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Holy Mary Mother of Fuck.

Taylor Mays dropping to our 2nd R2 pick?

Walter is on some serious shit this year.

"he was exposed this season as a hard-hitting safety who can't cover anyone."

Fuck him. He's and idiot.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Serious question:

Is there going to be any point where you just move on from complaining about the draft a year ago, and focus on this draft?

While you may not like it, the mistakes of 2009 are going to have a HUGE impact on what happens in the 2010 offseason.

I'm still baffled how people seem to be OK with wasting a year - and the consequences of doing so - mainly needing to fill the same number of holes without the help of FA as we know it.

[milkman]

What is it you don't like about Tate?

You know, I just can't put my finger on it.

I know his 40 time is probably faster than Gilyard's, but I just don't see him as being as quick or as explosive as Gilyard.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

While you may not like it, the mistakes of 2009 are going to have a HUGE impact on what happens in the 2010 offseason.

I'm still baffled how people seem to be OK with wasting a year - and the consequences of doing so - mainly needing to fill the same number of holes without the help of FA as we know it.

Every year is discrete and has no implications for any following year. You should know that. Jeez.

[doomy3]

While you may not like it, the mistakes of 2009 are going to have a HUGE impact on what happens in the 2010 offseason.

I'm still baffled how people seem to be OK with wasting a year - and the consequences of doing so - mainly needing to fill the same number of holes without the help of FA as we know it.

I understand. However, you can keep rehashing the same thing over and over, or you could just move on to things that actually are worth discussing, like things you would like to see this offseason. I just don't see why discussing the could've/should've is necessary. We have had 11 months to hear about how unhappy you are about those moves.

[doomy3]

Every year is discrete and has no implications for any following year. You should know that. Jeez.

I didn't say that at all. I understand that many people didn't/don't like the moves from last offseason. Those moves are done, and can't be undone. Perhaps it would be best to move on to things that are ahead?

[Mecca]

The past is a good predictor of the future, it's hard to have confidence in Pioli making the right player moves after our first year.

[doomy3]

You know, I just can't put my finger on it.

I know his 40 time is probably faster than Gilyard's, but I just don't see him as being as quick or as explosive as Gilyard.

Interesting. I like his big play ability, and I think he could be explosive opposite Bowe, or even in the slot. Gilyard is interesting too, but are you not worried about him coming from that Cincinnati spread offense?

[milkman]

I understand. However, you can keep rehashing the same thing over and over, or you could just move on to things that actually are worth discussing, like things you would like to see this offseason. I just don't see why discussing the could've/should've is necessary. We have had 11 months to hear about how unhappy you are about those moves.

The problem is, what happened last offseason has an effect on how we look at our choices in this offseason.

Every time I look at the draft options going into this draft, I get pissed that the Chiefs pissed away the last draft.

[Mr. Laz]

What? Your analogy is a good one. What one woman thinks is huge and wonderful could do nothing for the next girl. While I'm optimisitic due to the "size", I'm holding judgement until I see some action.
you flirting with the n00b? :spock:

[doomy3]

The past is a good predictor of the future, it's hard to have confidence in Pioli making the right player moves after our first year.

So, let's all just wallow in sorrow and anger all offseason.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Every year is discrete and has no implications for any following year. You should know that. Jeez.

Yeah, well, stupid me.

LMAO

[milkman]

Interesting. I like his big play ability, and I think he could be explosive opposite Bowe, or even in the slot. Gilyard is interesting too, but are you not worried about him coming from that Cincinnati spread offense?

If I were looking at him as a 1st or 2nd receiver, I might have reservations, but I don't have those same reservations about bringing him in to play the slot.

[doomy3]

The problem is, what happened last offseason has an effect on how we look at our choices in this offseason.

Every time I look at the draft options going into this draft, I get pissed that the Chiefs pissed away the last draft.

Again, I understand this. Perhaps we should start another thread about how much everyone hated the Jackson pick, the Cassel trade, etc. After all, I don't think it's been discussed enough in the last year.

My point is, yes, there were things last year that people hated, mainly the decision to trade a second for Cassel instead of drafting Sanchez. I understand that. But, it would be nice to see a discussion about THIS offseason that didn't turn into the same old discussion about how much everyone detests the moves from last year.

I know they have an effect on what happens this year, but it is done. Let's move on.

[OnTheWarpath15]

The problem is, what happened last offseason has an effect on how we look at our choices in this offseason.

Every time I look at the draft options going into this draft, I get pissed that the Chiefs pissed away the last draft.

This.

It's not like I'm going out of my way to do so, but Pioli himself has put us in this position.

So when it's relevant, I may bring it up. Like your scenario from earlier. Thanks to the fuck-ups of last year, we're probably going to pass on one of those R2 playmakers to fill a need.

I just pray to God that we don't pass on R1 playmakers to fill a need, again.

Christ, people here STILL complain about the piss-poor drafting of old regimes. Pioli isn't getting off the hook that fucking easy.

[Mecca]

We're Chiefs fans, wallowing in misery has pretty much been the status quo since the day I was born.

[doomy3]

We're Chiefs fans, wallowing in misery has pretty much been the status quo since the day I was born.

Well, that is obvious.

[Mecca]

Well, that is obvious.

Dude..I've seen the Chiefs win 2 playoff games, my brother is 17 and has never seen one, do you know how sad that is?

[doomy3]

Dude..I've seen the Chiefs win 2 playoff games, my brother is 17 and has never seen one, do you know how sad that is?

Yeah, it is pathetic. That's why I can't understand why you can't at least get a little excited about the change of having Peterson out, and having Pioli here and bringing in Weis and Crennel in this year. I think those are steps in the right direction.

However, you can't get excited about it at all.

Meanwhile, USC brings in Lane Kiffin, who has never won anything, and you are pissing yourself in excitement.

[Christofire]

We're Chiefs fans, wallowing in misery has pretty much been the status quo since the day I was born.

The lack of winning anything significant sucks. But please let's not encourage the Simmons-izing of every unsuccessful team's fan base.
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[Mecca]

Yeah, it is pathetic. That's why I can't understand why you can't at least get a little excited about the change of having Peterson out, and having Pioli here and bringing in Weis and Crennel in this year. I think those are steps in the right direction.

However, you can't get excited about it at all.

Meanwhile, USC brings in Lane Kiffin, who has never won anything, and you are pissing yourself in excitement.

That has more to do with the staff Kiffin is bringing with him....

Look they have this offseason to redeem themselves but so far, I'm not impressed.

[Sweet Dick Willy]

Crennell (and the Hoodie) threw in some blitzes and the corners played a physical style that one could misconstue as aggressive, but the reality is, it really was a rather passive style of defense that they played overall.

See, that's sort of what I feel about those defenses.
Not really "prevent", but not really "Berserker" either. Kind of a calculated, methodical, mechanical style of defense where big, aggressive plays occasionally seep through the woodwork and hopefully surprise the opposition at opportune moments.

[DeezNutz]

I just pray to God that we don't pass on R1 playmakers to fill a need, again.


Better get ready for this.

I think the odds of Pioli selecting Berry, whom I believe will be on the board, will be slim and none.

[Ralphy Boy]

That looks pretty damn good.

Like OTWP said though, we do need to get a NT either in FA or the draft too.

What the hell is it going to take to get you people on the Ryan Pickett bandwagon?

If the Pack doesn't re-sign him, he will be a FA, CBA or not. Packers drafted BJ Raji to replace him but Raji couldn't take the job. The Pack will probably not pay to re-sign him and he is by far the best NT candidate that we know will hit the market.

As far as whether any of this Romeo crap is new news; ESPN has a bit about it on their site and just says:
"Former Cleveland Browns coach Romeo Crennel has spoken to the New York Giants by telephone about their vacant defensive coordinator's job but is giving the Kansas City Chiefs the first shot at hiring him.
Crennel's agent, Joe Linta, said in an e-mail to The Associated Press on Tuesday that Crennel talked to the Giants on Monday.

Linta said Crennel is focused on becoming the Chiefs' defensive coordinator.

Chiefs coach Todd Haley has yet to clarify the status of current defensive coordinator Clancy Pendergast, who is still on the staff."

I think that has been discussed already.

[OnTheWarpath15]

What the hell is it going to take to get you people on the Ryan Pickett bandwagon?

If the Pack doesn't re-sign him, he will be a FA, CBA or not. Packers drafted BJ Raji to replace him but Raji couldn't take the job. The Pack will probably not pay to re-sign him and he is by far the best NT candidate that we know will hit the market.

I'm a HUGE fan of Big Grease.

I haven't paid much attention to who this CBA deal is actually going to effect, and who it won't.

I'd love to have him, the questions are:

a) Will the Packers re-sign him?

b) Will he want to come here?

c) Is Pioli willing to overpay (because he'll have to) top get him?

[Sweet Dick Willy]

Better get ready for this.

I think the odds of Pioli selecting Berry, whom I believe will be on the board, will be slim and none.

Man, some dumb motherfucker at an undisclosed location brought up some fucking Rutgers lineman as a 1st round pick.

Facepalms abound, but it really takes something to make Sweet Dick want to genuinely weep for this fan base.

Mission accomplished. You dumb motherfucker.

[CaliforniaChief]

I's a HUGE fan of Big Grease.

I haven't paid much attention to who this CBA deal is actually going to effect, and who it won't.

I'd love to have him, the questions are:

a) Will the Packers re-sign him?

b) Will he want to come here?

c) Is Pioli willing to overpay (because he'll have to) top get him?

Speaking of point c...it would probably be a lot cheaper for him to overpay for Pickett or another FA NT (should one become available) than it would be to take 1 in the first round and pay that ridiculous guaranteed money.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Man, some dumb motherfucker at an undisclosed location brought up some fucking Rutgers lineman as a 1st round pick.

Facepalms abound, but it really takes something to make Sweet Dick want to genuinely weep for this fan base.

Mission accomplished. You dumb motherfucker.

It's happened here several times.

But not until AFTER Todd "The Dipshit" McShay picked him for us in his latest mock.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Speaking of point c...it would probably be a lot cheaper for him to overpay for Pickett or another FA NT (should one become available) than it would be to take 1 in the first round and pay that ridiculous guaranteed money.

Just like it would have been worth overpaying Canty or Olshansky and passing on Jackson.

[Mecca]

I'd love to know why EVERYONE thinks we're going OT first, even the retards on sports radio do.

[DeezNutz]

Speaking of point c...it would probably be a lot cheaper for him to overpay for Pickett or another FA NT (should one become available) than it would be to take 1 in the first round and pay that ridiculous guaranteed money.

Is this where we can't bring up history?

[DeezNutz]

LMAO at the same time.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Is this where we can't bring up history?

Too late.

[CaliforniaChief]

Point taken.

[Ralphy Boy]

Better get ready for this.

I think the odds of Pioli selecting Berry, whom I believe will be on the board, will be slim and none.

Why do you say that? Seriously. Its a glaring need and Pioli has drafted more players out of the SEC than any other conference including spending the #10 pick on an ILB from Tennessee; in addition to spending a late first rounder on a another safety in Merriweather.

[DeezNutz]

Why do you say that? Seriously. Its a glaring need and Pioli has drafted more players out of the SEC than any other conference including spending the #10 pick on an ILB from Tennessee; in addition to spending a late first rounder on a another safety in Merriweather.

McClain is from the SEC, right? And what position did that TN guy play, again?

The other thing is, I have serious questions about how Haley and Pioli view the safety position on this team. I don't know if I've ever seen a single player be more of an arsonist than Mike Brown, and you couldn't get that guy off the field.

[Mecca]

McClain is probably going to be our pick, his head coach is from the tree.

[Sweet Dick Willy]

I'd love to know why EVERYONE thinks we're going OT first, even the retards on sports radio do.

You know why, and you've said it already; "we gots to protect the "investment".



"Investment".:shake:

[Pioli Zombie]

I love how geniuses on Chiefs Planet just state it as a given the Patriots drafts have sucked and last years Chiefs draft sucked. And that the model should be the Eagles and Packers. The Eagles who never win anything and the Packers,whose defense just gave up 51 points.
Well. Mecca says so so it must be so.
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[DeezNutz]

I love how geniuses on Chiefs Planet just state it as a given the Patriots drafts have sucked and last years Chiefs draft sucked. And that the model should be the Eagles and Packers. The Eagles who never win anything and the Packers,whose defense just gave up 51 points.
Well. Mecca says so so it must be so.
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So?

Oh, hey, did you hear about the fun going on at ChiefsCrowd?

[Mecca]

You don't think the Packers and Eagles have a better core moving forward than New England does?

[CaliforniaChief]

McClain is probably going to be our pick, his head coach is from the tree.

If the "tree" is the issue, watch out for LT Bryan Bulaga from Iowa. Kirk Ferentz, and all...

[Pioli Zombie]

You don't think the Packers and Eagles have a better core moving forward than New England does?
Yeah Mayo and Merriweather really suck. 4 picks in the first two rounds this year and 2 first round picks in 2011. the Packers have a great offensive team. Their defense sucks shit. The Eagles have some nice talent at the skill position. In 2 years the Patriots will be ahead of both teams still.
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[Sweet Dick Willy]

I love how geniuses on Chiefs Planet just state it as a given the Patriots drafts have sucked and last years Chiefs draft sucked. And that the model should be the Eagles and Packers. The Eagles who never win anything and the Packers,whose defense just gave up 51 points.
Well. Mecca says so so it must be so.
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[Ralphy Boy]

I'm a HUGE fan of Big Grease.

I haven't paid much attention to who this CBA deal is actually going to effect, and who it won't.

I'd love to have him, the questions are:

a) Will the Packers re-sign him?

b) Will he want to come here?

c) Is Pioli willing to overpay (because he'll have to) top get him?

This is precisely the kind of move Pioli should make and I don't think there will be quite the high dollar market for him that you might expect. He signed a 4 year, $14 million contract with $5 mil guaranteed in 2006. We could give him a 4 year deal to the 30 year old without paying thru the nose.

Teams running a 3-4 that could try for him: Jets, Browns, Chargers, Broncos & Steelers; if they think Hampton is near the end. Pickett is 2 years younger than Hampton but Hampton has had some injury problems. Chargers will look to replace or backup Jamal Williams. Though they just drafted Vaughn Martin in the 4th last year, he's been backing up Ian Scott. Browns may not think that Rogers will ever get back in game shape and make a move for him. I think Pouha is probably safe with the Jets.

Speaking of point c...it would probably be a lot cheaper for him to overpay for Pickett or another FA NT (should one become available) than it would be to take 1 in the first round and pay that ridiculous guaranteed money.

Yep. If Pioli could get Pickett to fill the spot for a few years, they could wait and let players fall to them in the draft instead of reaching for guys like TJ.

Just like it would have been worth overpaying Canty or Olshansky and passing on Jackson.

Precisely.

[Dante84]

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Anyone got the one of Flowers waving to the Bronco fans after his pick?

[WildTurkey]

Yeah Mayo and Merriweather really suck. 4 picks in the first two rounds this year and 2 first round picks in 2011. the Packers have a great offensive team. Their defense sucks shit. The Eagles have some nice talent at the skill position. In 2 years the Patriots will be ahead of both teams still.
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Actually the Packers Defense was pretty good in the regular season... I know I would take Clay Matthews, Nick Collins and AJ Hawk off that defense for sure .... they were ranked #7 in scoring defense, #1 against the run, and #5 against the pass.... yeah that sucks shit ;)

[Sweet Dick Willy]

Anyone got the one of Flowers waving to the Bronco fans after his pick?

We've begged GoChiefs for one, but nothing yet.:(

[milkman]

Actually the Packers Defense was pretty good in the regular season... I know I would take a few of their linebackers.... they were ranked #7 in scoring defense, #1 against the run, and #5 against the pass.... yeah that sucks shit ;)

That Kurt Warner is a bum.

He's never picked apart a good defense ever before.

[Ralphy Boy]

McClain is from the SEC, right? And what position did that TN guy play, again?

The other thing is, I have serious questions about how Haley and Pioli view the safety position on this team. I don't know if I've ever seen a single player be more of an arsonist than Mike Brown, and you couldn't get that guy off the field.

I think McClain will be a stud and our LB's definitely need an upgrade but I seem to recall Haley nearly getting teary-eyed early in the season when asked why DJ was sitting behind Demorrio. I would like to think that, after his 2 TD game and became a "core player" DJ would be given every opportunity to take a starting spot next to Demorrio.

I've said elsewhere that I think Haley would love an excuse to keep Brown on the field and what better way than giving him a young, high draft pick to groom.

[Brock]

I'd love to know why EVERYONE thinks we're going OT first, even the retards on sports radio do.

I don't think EVERYONE thinks anything of the sort. Would it really shock you if they did that?

[OnTheWarpath15]

I don't think EVERYONE thinks anything of the sort. Would it really shock you if they did that?

Actually, almost every mock I have seen has us taking Okung or Davis, with some Eric Berry mixed in.

[WildTurkey]

That Kurt Warner is a bum.

He's never picked apart a good defense ever before.

yeah and don't even get me started on that Larry Fitzgerald guy ROFL

[DeezNutz]

I think McClain will be a stud and our LB's definitely need an upgrade but I seem to recall Haley nearly getting teary-eyed early in the season when asked why DJ was sitting behind Demorrio. I would like to think that, after his 2 TD game and became a "core player" DJ would be given every opportunity to take a starting spot next to Demorrio.

I've said elsewhere that I think Haley would love an excuse to keep Brown on the field and what better way than giving him a young, high draft pick to groom.

We'll have to see what happens, but BRC seemed pretty definitive in saying that DJ would NOT be back next year.

Personal problems or something. Dude was purposely a bit vague. Anyway, supposedly pretty serious.

Another reason why McClain might make a lot of sense from the organization's perspective, not saying I agree, of course.

[Rigodan]

Better get ready for this.

I think the odds of Pioli selecting Berry, whom I believe will be on the board, will be slim and none.

I'm starting to think he's gonna find a way to reach for a NT. NE drafted DL in the 1st round 3 times in 4 years while Pioli was there.

[Basileus777]

That Kurt Warner is a bum.

He's never picked apart a good defense ever before.

To be fair, the Packers D was shredded by every good quarterback they played this year other than Romo. Clay Matthews is their only pass rusher and their shitty secondary depth makes them very vulnerable to the spread. Green Bay had a pretty good defense, but its elite numbers were probably a product of a soft schedule.

They have plenty of talent going forth though. There probbaly isn't a team better set up for the next 5 years than green Bay.

[booger]

Crennel wants to work for Chiefs
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star

If the Chiefs want Romeo Crennel as their defensive coordinator, the next move is theirs.

Crennel’s agent, Joe Linta, said Tuesday the veteran coordinator’s preference was to work next season for the Chiefs.

“Would he take it if they offered the job? I suppose he would,” Linta said.

Chiefs coach Todd Haley has said he would evaluate the performance of the defensive coaches, including coordinator Clancy Pendergast, and make a determination on which ones would return next season.

Defensive line coach Tim Krumrie, whose contract expired, has been told he won’t return.

Linta said Crennel has already discussed the coordinator’s position with Haley. That suggests Haley has decided to make a change.

Crennel is coaching this week at the East-West Shrine Game in Orlando, Fla. Linta indicated Crennel would like to have something resolved with the Chiefs quickly.

“First shot (goes) to the Chiefs if it works out,” Linta said. “ If not, four other (teams are) interested in him.”

Linta said Crennel spoke with the New York Giants this week about becoming their defensive coordinator.

Haley and general manager Scott Pioli have worked with Crennel. For three years in the late 1990s, Haley and Crennel were assistant coaches with the New York Jets.

Crennel was defensive coordinator for the Patriots for four seasons in the early 2000s while Pioli was personnel director.

Crennel, 62, was head coach of the Browns from 2005 through 2008 before he was fired. He was out of football last year.
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/chiefs/story/1680356.html

[Sweet Dick Willy]

Good Lord end it, wrap it up, or make it stop.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

I still think The Bad Guy and BRC have this nailed. We should hear something in the morning.

[booger]

I still think The Bad Guy and BRC have this nailed. We should hear something in the morning.

yep

[Titty Meat]

62 thats getting pretty old.

[Sweet Dick Willy]

It just doesn't have the impact that a "Romeo Watch" hire right after Pioli and Haley were tagged would have had.

It's more like, "saw this coming a mile away many moons ago, and now the inevitable is occurring, so I'm just gonna' drink some beer and go to the pisser when I need to and you can fill me in later".

[Titty Meat]

It just doesn't have the impact that a "Romeo Watch" hire right after Pioli and Haley were tagged would have had.

It's more like, "saw this coming a mile away many moons ago, and now the inevitable is occurring, so I'm just gonna' drink some beer and go to the pisser when I need to and you can fill me in later".

Still worthy of " I GOT MY GAME AWWWWWWWWWWN". Maybe the Chiefs will announce the hiring at the podium with this song blaring and Pioli hands Crennel a WWE championship belt.

[Sweet Dick Willy]

Still worthy of " I GOT MY GAME AWWWWWWWWWWN". Maybe the Chiefs will announce the hiring at the podium with this song blaring and Pioli hands Crennel a WWE championship belt.

http://www.conservativecool.net/images/trace-adkins-em02.jpg

yay.

[Titty Meat]

http://www.conservativecool.net/images/trace-adkins-em02.jpg

yay.

Sweet Dick Willy you should have been Trace Adkins.

[Sweet Dick Willy]

Sweet Dick Willy you should have been Trace Adkins.

I'd body-thief that fool long enough to raid his fortune, then give his person back to him without blinking an eye.

And then I'd record a much better Chiefs Anthem.

[TinyEvel]

So, when does Haley's "Assistant coaching weight loss" offseason program start? I'd love to see Crennel and Weiss on the sidelines riding the stationary bike all day.

[Sweet Dick Willy]

So, when does Haley's "Assistant coaching weight loss" offseason program start? I'd love to see Crennel and Weiss on the sidelines riding the stationary bike all day.

I'd honestly laugh and feel great about Haley if he put them on the "Chiefs Coach Regimen".

[Mecca]

Still worthy of " I GOT MY GAME AWWWWWWWWWWN". Maybe the Chiefs will announce the hiring at the podium with this song blaring and Pioli hands Crennel a WWE championship belt.

If we're gonna use wrestling references for this team, they should have to use the NWO music for trying to rehash something yet again.

[Sweet Dick Willy]

If we're gonna use wrestling references for this team, they should have to use the NWO music for trying to rehash something yet again.

I would put Brandon Flowers in charge of music. Why? Because he's the only Cat on this team that knows Genuine DC Go-Go.

And if you don't know what that is( and not just you, Mecca ), go ahead and look it up, have a listen, and Understand.

[TigerPig]

I'd honestly laugh and feel great about Haley if he put them on the "Chiefs Coach Regimen".

With Arthur Bryants, Jack Stack, and Oklahoma Joe's in town, expect Weis and Crennel to gain another 50. They went to the wrong place to trim down, lol.

[Christofire]

If we're gonna use wrestling references for this team, they should have to use the NWO music for trying to rehash something yet again.

Or they can do the "Gillberg" trick, where they bring in some skinny-ass parody of Crennel.

[Sweet Dick Willy]

With Arthur Bryants, Jack Stack, and Oklahoma Joe's in town, expect Weis and Crennel to gain another 50. They went to the wrong place to trim down, lol.

ROFL

As long as they occasionally buy one rib and tell the proprietor; "fuck the cup; pour it in my hands"! when it's time to buy a soda, I'll be cool with that too.

http://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv252/raisedonriots/chrisrock2.jpg
RIP IH.

[Sweet Dick Willy]

So?

Oh, hey, did you hear about the fun going on at ChiefsCrowd?

LMAO

[The Bad Guy]

We will definitely hear something. I mean, this isn't rocket science at this point. How many coordinator's agents come out and say "He wants to go to your team, the other 4 teams interested are on hold"?

[BigRedChief]

I still think The Bad Guy and BRC have this nailed. We should hear something in the morning.The deal is done. Crennel signed the papers last night.

[the Talking Can]

The deal is done. Crennel signed the papers last night.


thanks for the tips, brc....nice having an in-house source who isn't an internet douche bag....

[BigRedChief]

thanks for the tips, brc....nice having an in-house source who isn't an internet douche bag....wellll remember this isn't coming from "the source". Just another contact. So take with a grain of salt.

[the Talking Can]

wellll remember this isn't coming from "the source". Just another contact. So take with a grain of salt.

i always do....but i also know you wouldn't just fling crap around for attention

[King_Chief_Fan]

Do you think Clancey knows he is a goner or will he have to read it on the internet?

[the Talking Can]

Do you think Clancey knows he is a goner or will he have to read it on the internet?

clancy's known since last year...

[The Bad Guy]

Do you think Clancey knows he is a goner or will he have to read it on the internet?

I will let Clancy down gently.

[Reerun_KC]

Do you think Clancey knows he is a goner or will he have to read it on the internet?

Clancey knew last year when he was Hired NOT TO BE THE DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR, that he would go back to a position coach when Crennel was hired...


Jesus people are you really this naive?

[Warrior5]

The deal is done. Crennel signed the papers last night.

So are you saying:

"OK, gang - the deal is done - to the ship - print 'em! - SWEEEET" ?:shrug:

[BigRedChief]

So are you saying:

"OK, gang - the deal is done - to the ship - print 'em! - SWEEEET" ?:shrug:see post 229

[Molitoth]

They just announced on 810 that it is official.

Whatever that means...

[BigRedChief]

They just announced on 810 that it is official.

Whatever that means...Thats what I heard this am when I awoke from a good nights sleep. Crennel signed a contract last night. And then his agent is firing off emails to the AP that no deal is done. So, WTF is actually going on?

What I think is going on is that Crennel's agreed to become the DC, told the Chiefs he will become the DC. Then the agent started getting all the phone calls from teams wanting Crennel and they probably were for more money, not just a little, but a lot more money, so they went back to the Chiefs and said team A, B etc are offering this $. please match.

[the Talking Can]

They just announced on 810 that it is official.

Whatever that means...

it means they read the planet

[BigRedChief]

it means they read the planetLMAO

[The Bad Guy]

Thats what I heard this am when I awoke from a good nights sleep. Crennel signed a contract last night. And then his agent is firing off emails to the AP that no deal is done. So, WTF is actually going on?

What I think is going on is that Crennel's agreed to become the DC, told the Chiefs he will become the DC. Then the agent started getting all the phone calls from teams wanting Crennel and they probably were for more money, not just a little, but a lot more money, so they went back to the Chiefs and said team A, B etc are offering this $. please match.

Exactly right.

When I found out this news on Monday, the source told me that Romeo was determined to come here, but the agent was determined to get top dollar for his client. By telling the Giants they were on hold, coming out to the media that he's talked to the Chiefs but no offer, indicated to other teams that he's still in play, but in reality he was just collecting offers to bring back to the Chiefs.

The Chiefs wanted him, and wanted him bad.

[Sweet Dick Willy]

Exactly right.

When I found out this news on Monday, the source told me that Romeo was determined to come here, but the agent was determined to get top dollar for his client. By telling the Giants they were on hold, coming out to the media that he's talked to the Chiefs but no offer, indicated to other teams that he's still in play, but in reality he was just collecting offers to bring back to the Chiefs.

The Chiefs wanted him, and wanted him bad.

Whatever X's and O's concerns we may have or not have regarding Crennel and Weis, I applaud the hires in that Haley now has two good minds and mentors to help him along in HIS evolution as a Head Coach of this franchise.

As of today, we are a better franchise than we were when the season ended.

"PIOLI"!

( that hurt a little ):evil: