who do you think is worst serial killer

[big nasty kcnut]

I was watching this film and it dawned on me the question who is the worst serial killer. I lived in two cities that had serial killer and for my money i thought that btk was the worst cause of his deliberate planning. the south hill killer was more run of the mill kill hookers murderer.


So do you think is the worst serial killer and why? It's a interesting and strange subject.

[Abba-Dabba]

the ones that don't get caught

or

Albert Fish

[Consistent1]

the ones that don't get caught

or

Albert Fish

I agree on the getting caught aspect. Does that really make them the worst, or the best?

[Abba-Dabba]

I agree on the getting caught aspect. Does that really make them the worst, or the best?

I would say the best are the worst.

Kinda like an enema... uh poops, I mean enigma.

[FAX]

I'd have to say Grape Nuts. It's like chewing rocks, and once you've tried Grape Nuts and gotten one of those hard, little, lumpy chunks embedded between a couple of your teeth and you can't get it out no matter how hard you try and you finally get a cramp in your tongue and a dislocated jaw from spending half an hour trying to dislodge that damnably irritating hunk of crap, it puts you off serial forever period. Besides, they contain neither grapes nor nuts, the bastards.

FAX

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Gilles De Rais

[BigMeatballDave]

John Wayne Gacy and Jeffery Dahmer

[BigRedChief]

The dude down in South America. Don't know his name. There was also a guy in Russia. I remember hearing about them but don't remember their names but they were both near or over 100.

[BigMeatballDave]

Granted, Gacy only killed 33 and Dahmer killed 17, but it happened in this country and in modern times.

[Otter]

the ones that don't get caught

or

Albert Fish

I read a book on serial killers in college and Albert Fish is the only one that gave me a nightmare. He was genuinely creepy individual on so many levels.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Gilles de Rais killed between 80 and 200 children, all after he raped them.

But first he would hang them and beat off on them as they hung, and then either decapitate them, disembowel them, or break their necks by hitting them with blunt objects.

[Delano]

Gilles de Rais, the maitre d' at Canal bar?
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[Buehler445]

Gilles de Rais killed between 80 and 200 children, all after he raped them.

But first he would hang them and beat off on them as they hung, and then either decapitate them, disembowel them, or break their necks by hitting them with blunt objects.

Jesus fucking Christ. Hell is too good for that son of a bitch.

[Jack]

Hitler

[Easy 6]

In America i'll go with Ted Bundy, its still not known how many he killed.

After him, theres a little known guy named Pee Wee Gaskins... not as prolific, but maybe even more sadistic.

[Bi_polar]

Gilles de Rais, the maitre d' at Canal bar?
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Easy sport, no, Short-stop for the L.A. Dodgers - 1967

Where serial-killers are concerned, If they have a great personality and they're not great looking... then who fucking cares?

[blaise]

Gilles De Rais

Christ, I just read his wiki page. He's the winner. That's pretty much the worst human being that ever existed.

[Otter]

Hitler

You need to brush up on the definition of "Serial Killer".

[Bi_polar]

http://i49.tinypic.com/2q02c6t.gif

[notorious]

Gilles De Rais

**** Hamas, where in the **** do you get this shit?


I thought I have read about most of these sick ****s, and then you bring this POS into the light.

[Jack]

You need to brush up on the definition of "Serial Killer".

And Hitler doesn't classify. . .sigh.. .

[notorious]

And Hitler doesn't classify. . .sigh.. .

Just wait on the mass murderer thread to hit and you will dominate.

[LaChapelle]

Count Chocula
~repost

[Bane]

Didn't we have a big epically long poll on this a while back and everyone voted some fool that either set off a bomb or talked people into killing themselves win the poll?

I know bombings and follow me to suicide killings are terrible and all but IMO its worse to single handedly kill 20 people in single events vs setting off a bomb that kills 20 people.Having said that I think Gary Ridgway is far worse than all the bombers and follow me to hell retards.He was convicted of 48 murders,confessed to 71,but they believe he killed many more.To me,thats a serial killer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Ridgway

[CosmicPal]

America's first serial killer is considered by some to be the most prolific in our states. Dr. H.H. Holmes may have killed over a hundred people in the late 1800's.

Read The Devil in the White City by Erik Larson. It was a National Book Award Finalist.

Excellent book about the 1893 Chicago World's Fair and how H.H. Holmes used the fair to facilitate his desires.

[JD10367]

Ted McGinley.

[Duck Dog]

Andrei Chikatilo killed over 50 women and children. He could only orgasm when he was stabbing them.

[JD10367]

Andrei Chikatilo killed over 50 women and children. He could only orgasm when he was stabbing them.

Can't fault him for that. I think a lot of people here would have the same issue and response, if it were Pioli and Cassel. :shrug:

[MOhillbilly]

Hunting Humans. If you can find it, get it.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

**** Hamas, where in the **** do you get this shit?


I thought I have read about most of these sick ****s, and then you bring this POS into the light.

Sr. year of college I took a graduate level seminar in French Lit in Translation. Most of the stuff we read was transgressive in nature (Batailles, Rimbaud, Sade, etc.) but one of the first pieces we read was on Gilles de Rais. My professor at the time (who wrote an eco-novel about a catfish named "Old Shithead", BTW) was interested in him, because his aristocratic bloodlines protected him much in the way that Michael Jackson's celebrity and wealth protected him. He thought they were interesting historical parallels, excepting the fact that MJ disemboweled the children in his "lair".

[notorious]

Sr. year of college I took a graduate level seminar in French Lit in Translation. Most of the stuff we read was transgressive in nature (Batailles, Rimbaud, Sade, etc.) but one of the first pieces we read was on Gilles de Rais. My professor at the time (who wrote an eco-novel about a catfish named "Old Shithead", BTW) was interested in him, because his aristocratic bloodlines protected him much in the way that Michael Jackson's celebrity and wealth protected him. He thought they were interesting historical parallels, excepting the fact that MJ disemboweled the children in his "lair".

Those are the kind of classes that I looked forward to going to since they are actually interesting.

Ed Pysc teacher had us read books and write papers on Serial Killers. That class kicked ass.


Not to go off on a tangent, but who wrote the serial killer book that is written from a first-person perspective? I chose to read Hannibal (just released at the time) instead of it, but I can't remember the Author or Title.

[Slainte]

Sr. year of college I took a graduate level seminar in French Lit in Translation. Most of the stuff we read was transgressive in nature (Batailles, Rimbaud, Sade, etc.)

I'm reading Blue of Noon even as we speak...

[PornChief]

Carl Panzram. might not have the numbers of some others but he sure was a mean mofo.

[L.A. Chieffan]

Did you know that Ted Bundy's first pet was a dog named Lassie? Did you know that Bi-Polar?

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Those are the kind of classes that I looked forward to going to since they are actually interesting.

Ed Pysc teacher had us read books and write papers on Serial Killers. That class kicked ass.


Not to go off on a tangent, but who wrote the serial killer book that is written from a first-person perspective? I chose to read Hannibal (just released at the time) instead of it, but I can't remember the Author or Title.

Bret Easton Ellis, American Psycho

['Hamas' Jenkins]

I'm reading Blue of Noon even as we speak...

I always liked Story of the Eye.

We watched Andalusian Dog in the same class.

[Jerm]

Andrei Chikatilo killed over 50 women and children. He could only orgasm when he was stabbing them.

Was gonna nominate him.

Ed Gein was one sick and twisted mofo as well...furniture out of human parts? Check. Made a belt of nipples cut off of bodies he had in house? Check. Cut the vulvas out of the women's bodies he dug up and descecrated? Check. That's just the tip of the iceberg.

I'd throw The Zodiac up there as well just because he's never been caught and the guy who 75% of people involved with Z thought was him was proven not to be.

Dude practically begged the police to catch him but they didn't.
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[Halfcan]

Hitler

Stalin

[Ebolapox]

no mention of ed gein? he was pretty fucked up.

watched a history channel show a while back that laid out some pretty hardcore evidence that 'jack the ripper' actually left england after his reign of terror and killed all across the USA. interesting stuff.

[Ebolapox]

Was gonna nominate him.

Ed Gein was one sick and twisted mofo as well...furniture out of human parts? Check. Made a belt of nipples cut off of bodies he had in house? Check. Cut the vulvas out of the women's bodies he dug up and descecrated? Check. That's just the tip of the iceberg.

I'd throw The Zodiac up there as well just because he's never been caught and the guy who 75% of people involved with Z thought was him was proven not to be.

Dude practically begged the police to catch him but they didn't.
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CURSES! scooped by a mobile device.

[kpic]

If you believe the "story" :shrug: Countess Bathory would have to be up there.

[Luke]

Linn Elliot killed the dreams of thousands of us.?:shake:

[JOhn]

Who was the Guy from KC that was killing young men after molesting them? Believe he died in prison?

Only reason I nominate him is I knew one of his victims fathers. Sick dude

[Slainte]

If you believe the "story" :shrug: Countess Bathory would have to be up there.

My most memorable part of the Elizabeth Bathory epic: After her crimes were discovered, she was walled up alive.

[Boise_Chief]

This guy but he's small potatoes. I'll just nominate him cause he was my neighbor.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Lee_Yates

[RJ]

I am probably the worst serial killer ever. So far I haven't even killed one person.

[JD10367]

This guy but he's small potatoes. I'll just nominate him cause he was my neighbor.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Lee_Yates

"Hey, Bob! How ya doin'? Mind if I borrow a cup of sugar?"

"Sure thing, neighbor! C'mon in!"

"Thanks! Hey, say, Bob, I couldn't help but notice the screaming bloody hooker you have tied up on your couch there."

"Yeah, ain't she a beaut? Just brought her home. Picked her up last night."

"She's doin' pretty good on those ropes there. Think she'll get out?"

"Nah, she's pretty weak from blood loss, and I've got a new Skil saw in the basement I'm gonna be trying out in a minute."

"Cool! All righty then, have fun! Thanks for the sugar!"

"Sure thing! What are neighbors for?"

[Megbert]

America's first serial killer is considered by some to be the most prolific in our states. Dr. H.H. Holmes may have killed over a hundred people in the late 1800's.

Read The Devil in the White City by Erik Larson. It was a National Book Award Finalist.

Excellent book about the 1893 Chicago World's Fair and how H.H. Holmes used the fair to facilitate his desires.

Just read this book a couple months ago. Really interesting read. I too highly recommend.

[CosmicPal]

I am probably the worst serial killer ever. So far I haven't even killed one person.

LMAO

[Delano]

"Hey, Bob! How ya doin'? Mind if I borrow a cup of sugar?"

"Sure thing, neighbor! C'mon in!"

"Thanks! Hey, say, Bob, I couldn't help but notice the screaming bloody hooker you have tied up on your couch there."

"Yeah, ain't she a beaut? Just brought her home. Picked her up last night."

"She's doin' pretty good on those ropes there. Think she'll get out?"

"Nah, she's pretty weak from blood loss, and I've got a new Skil saw in the basement I'm gonna be trying out in a minute."

"Cool! All righty then, have fun! Thanks for the sugar!"

"Sure thing! What are neighbors for?"

"Ok the ropes I can understand, but what is the Habitrail doing in her va-jeen?"

*nods over to the starving, white rat in a cage on the kitchen counter*
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[JD10367]

"Ok the ropes I can understand, but what is the Habitrail doing in her va-jeen?"

*nods over to the starving, white rat in a cage on the kitchen counter*
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Ooh, nicely played. Could've upped the ante James Patterson-style, though, by making it a snake in the cage.

[Delano]

Ooh, nicely played. Could've upped the ante James Patterson-style, though, by making it a snake in the cage.

Is it possible to up Bret Easton Ellis' ante? :)
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[JD10367]

Is it possible to up Bret Easton Ellis' ante? :)
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Sure. Battery cables on the nips? Chainsaw as a bicycle seat? Or you could be REALLY sick, and pin the eyelids open and make 'em watch a repeating loop tape of Carl Peterson introducing Herman Edwards as the Chiefs Head Coach. :D

[Delano]

Sure. Battery cables on the nips? Chainsaw as a bicycle seat? Or you could be REALLY sick, and pin the eyelids open and make 'em watch a repeating loop tape of Carl Peterson introducing Herman Edwards as the Chiefs Head Coach. :D

LMAO The Carl Peterson Killer.
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[KCinNY]

Zodiac had the most style of the modern serial killers.

[JD10367]

Zodiac had the most style of the modern serial killers.

Thanks. Er, I mean, I agree.

[KcMizzou]

I am probably the worst serial killer ever. So far I haven't even killed one person.Slacker.

[Boise_Chief]

"Hey, Bob! How ya doin'? Mind if I borrow a cup of sugar?"

"Sure thing, neighbor! C'mon in!"

"Thanks! Hey, say, Bob, I couldn't help but notice the screaming bloody hooker you have tied up on your couch there."

"Yeah, ain't she a beaut? Just brought her home. Picked her up last night."

"She's doin' pretty good on those ropes there. Think she'll get out?"

"Nah, she's pretty weak from blood loss, and I've got a new Skil saw in the basement I'm gonna be trying out in a minute."

"Cool! All righty then, have fun! Thanks for the sugar!"

"Sure thing! What are neighbors for?"

Hehe yep kinda like that. They were talking about his corvette on the news when they were looking for the killer and I told my wife that it was just like bob's vette.

I didn't know him well but he was a weird guy with a side of creepy. The funny thing was that they busted his neighbor 2 months before they caught him(drugs) and the whole street was filled with cops and the news etc. You have to know he was sweating bullets.

[Al Czervik]

Who was the Guy from KC that was killing young men after molesting them? Believe he died in prison?

Only reason I nominate him is I knew one of his victims fathers. Sick dude

Bob Berdella....Pile of Shit if there ever was one....



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Berdella

[RustShack]

Smiley Face Killers

[Bowser]

Dane McCloud, for knocking googlegoogle's rep over the head with a tire iron and throwing it in the trunk, only to later gut it, skin it, and serve its brains with fava beans and a nice Chianti.

[JOhn]

Bob Berdella....Pile of Shit if there ever was one....



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Berdella

Yea that's the sick bastard

Jerry Howell was the kid I vaguely knew, but knew his dad better. He dad was good friends with my parents. sad story

[Al Czervik]

Yea that's the sick bastard

Jerry Howell was the kid I vaguely knew, but knew his dad better. He dad was good friends with my parents. sad story

Sorry to hear that John.....That fucking sick bastard got off
easy dying in prison.....I am sure he is getting his in Hell....

[Iowanian]

I think the worse serial killers are the ones who get caught before they hurt anyone, but they're my favorite.

[kcxiv]

This is kind of a stupid fucking question.

[niblet]

I think the worse serial killers are the ones who get caught before they hurt anyone, but they're my favorite.

That's why you're a Chiefs fan, right?

This is kind of a stupid ****ing question.

So much rage. Don't serial kill anyone(s) over it.

[Rain Man]

I think the worse serial killers are the ones who get caught before they hurt anyone, but they're my favorite.


Yeah, my initial thought was that Bambi would be the worst serial killer.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Can't believe no one has mentioned Kuklinski.

First murder at age 14, then "worked" for over 30 years without the police even sniffing him.

Dude used to take the bus from Jersey over to Manhattan to kill bums for fucking practice.

Over 200 victims, and the dude was fucking creative. One mob boss wanted a guy to suffer, so Kuklinski bound the guy, drove him to the middle of nowhere, sliced him up a bit, and then put him in a cave known to have swarms of big ass rats - who devoured him alive- and he fucking videotaped it.

Cyanide spray, throwing bodies into bottomless pits, disguising the time of death by freezing the corpse - guy was a fucking genius when it came to killing.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Can't believe no one has mentioned Kuklinski.

First murder at age 14, then "worked" for over 30 years without the police even sniffing him.

Dude used to take the bus from Jersey over to Manhattan to kill bums for fucking practice.

Over 200 victims, and the dude was fucking creative. One mob boss wanted a guy to suffer, so Kuklinski bound the guy, drove him to the middle of nowhere, sliced him up a bit, and then put him in a cave known to have swarms of big ass rats - who devoured him alive- and he fucking videotaped it.

Cyanide spray, throwing bodies into bottomless pits, disguising the time of death by freezing the corpse - guy was a fucking genius when it came to killing.

Respect to anyone known as The Iceman

[Pablo]

Respect to anyone known as The IcemanYar, Chuck Liddell is pretty bad-ass brah.

Oh, here's a great song/video combo for you folks:

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[ChiefsFan4Life]

Can someone recommend a good book that talks about different serial killers and what they did. I love reading about this stuff. What would be interesting was if there was a real life Dexter (best show on TV).

[OnTheWarpath15]

Can someone recommend a good book that talks about different serial killers and what they did. I love reading about this stuff. What would be interesting was if there was a real life Dexter (best show on TV).

I don't have any recommendations regarding a group of guys, but I would HIGHLY recommend reading this on the Iceman, who I mentioned earlier.

Absolutely fascinating fucking read. Guarantee you won't be disappointed.

http://www.amazon.com/Ice-Man-Confessions-Contract-Killer/dp/0312938845/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1266797803&sr=8-6

[Mr. Kotter]

Hitler/Stalin/Mao

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Hitler/Stalin/Mao

:facepalm:

Mass murderers aren't serial killers.

[ChiefsFan4Life]

I don't have any recommendations regarding a group of guys, but I would HIGHLY recommend reading this on the Iceman, who I mentioned earlier.

Absolutely fascinating fucking read. Guarantee you won't be disappointed.

http://www.amazon.com/Ice-Man-Confessions-Contract-Killer/dp/0312938845/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1266797803&sr=8-6

Thanks for the recommendation. I will probably order that in the future but was more interested in a large sampling of different serial killers of different types.

Ended up deciding on and ordering this one from Amazon just now: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0425196402/ref=oss_product

[Jerm]

Damn can't believe I forgot The Iceman.

I remember his interview on A&E I believe it was...crazy stuff.
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[FAX]

The Iceman was a bad, bad man.

But, he fought the thaw and the thaw won.

FAX

[FAX]

C'mon guys. I mean, really.

He's called the "Iceman" and he was a criminal, see? He fought the "thaw" and the "thaw" won, see? Ice? Thaw? Rhymes with "law"? I fought the "law"? Get it? The "Iceman" fought the "thaw" and the "thaw" won? See?

FAX

[Reerun_KC]

The Iceman was a bad, bad man.

But, he fought the thaw and the thaw won.

FAX

:doh!:

BTW, when you post the WHOLE FAMILY usually gathers around to read... Funny Funny stuff....

[FAX]

It's like this, okay? The guy's name is "Iceman". Ice melts or ... "thaws". When ice "thaws", it isn't "ice" anymore. It's like ... water or something. So, when the Iceman "thaws", he can't ... you know ... kill people anymore (unless they're in prison with him like other inmates or guards or visitors and all. He can kill them with a shiv or by strangulation or something, but he can't kill just normal people out on the street or at a disco.). So there was this famous song called "I fought the "law" and the "law" won, okay? And "law" rhymes with "thaw". So the "Iceman" "thawed" when the "thaw" won. See?

FAX

[blaise]

It's like this, okay? The guy's name is "Iceman". Ice melts or ... "thaws". When ice "thaws", it isn't "ice" anymore. It's like ... water or something. So, when the Iceman "thaws", he can't ... you know ... kill people anymore (unless they're in prison with him like other inmates or guards or visitors and all. He can kill them with a shiv or by strangulation or something, but he can't kill just normal people out on the street or at a disco.). So there was this famous song called "I fought the "law" and the "law" won, okay? And "law" rhymes with "thaw". So the "Iceman" "thawed" when the "thaw" won. See?

FAX

Chill out, FAX. We got it.

[FAX]

It's like a pun, see? Like when two words rhyme and you get a different meaning, but it kinda makes sense in a way. For example, if the guy's name was "Bill" instead of "Iceman", it wouldn't work. But, since the guy's name is "Iceman" and since he's a criminal and since there was this song called "I fought the law and the law won" and since "law" rhymes with "thaw", it still kind of makes sense in a way, but you just replace the word "law" with "thaw". See?

FAX

[DaneMcCloud]

Gilles De Rais

Do you believe he committed those atrocities?

I haven't researched it much but I don't trust the Catholic Church and their evil history.

It seems odds that a man with his background would suddenly start killing children and performing sexual acts on his victims.

I'm not stating he didn't, it's just I think the Catholic Church shouldn't be trusted in this instance.

["Bob" Dobbs]

I don't know the first name of the nastiest serial killer, but I'll be willing to give odds on his middle name:

http://newsoftheweird.com/wayne.html

[easymobee]

I don't know who the worst is, I think there have been some good mentions made here. One to look into is Paul Bernardo and his Wife Kathy Holmoka (sp), the ken and barbie killers. Not the worst, but interesting. Anyone who is into reading about this, the show Criminal Minds is a great show for this
subject matter.

Leonard Lake and Charles Ng is another one, Lake killed himself with a cyanide capsule that was hidden in a false crown in his tooth during his 1st interrogation.
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['Hamas' Jenkins]

Do you believe he committed those atrocities?

I haven't researched it much but I don't trust the Catholic Church and their evil history.

It seems odds that a man with his background would suddenly start killing children and performing sexual acts on his victims.

I'm not stating he didn't, it's just I think the Catholic Church shouldn't be trusted in this instance.

Involved by the Church has been wholly discredited by historians.

[blaise]

I don't know who the worst is, I think there have been some good mentions made here. One to look into is Paul Bernardo and his Wife Kathy Holmoka (sp), the ken and barbie killers. Not the worst, but interesting. Anyone who is into reading about this, the show Criminal Minds is a great show for this
subject matter.

Leonard Lake and Charles Ng is another one, Lake killed himself with a cyanide capsule that was hidden in a false crown in his tooth during his 1st interrogation.
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I remember that first pair well. I was living in Buffalo at the time and they covered the disappearance of Kristen French on the local news. The wife, if I remember, got off with little or no jail time because she testified against the husband.

[Jerm]

Lake and Ng made a snuff films of their murders...I believe some were shown in court. Crazy.

Didn't Bernardo and Holmoka get jail time? I could have sworn they did and Holmoka was released recently.
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[blaise]

Lake and Ng made a snuff films of their murders...I believe some were shown in court. Crazy.

Didn't Bernardo and Holmoka get jail time? I could have sworn they did and Holmoka was released recently.
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I just looked. I guess she did 12 years and was released in 2005. There's no way she should be out of prison for what they did.

[Nzoner]

Can someone recommend a good book that talks about different serial killers and what they did. I love reading about this stuff. What would be interesting was if there was a real life Dexter (best show on TV).

I have an interesting book called Bloodletters and Badmen,it's on criminals as a whole but includes serial killers as well.Note though it's a little dated but still a good read.

[Nzoner]

Damn can't believe I forgot The Iceman.

I remember his interview on A&E I believe it was...crazy stuff.
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I believe when it first premiered it was on HBO because it was an uncut interview and chilling as hell.