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Dave Lane
02-21-2010, 11:37 AM
You're up, let's see it. I'm at the airport headed to Florida so I expect to see it here when I land.

:) :thumb:

Dave Lane
02-21-2010, 11:40 AM
Oh and no fair taking Berry with every pick. :)

KCrockaholic
02-21-2010, 11:45 AM
I still hate mock drafts pre-combine. Once March begins, I would love to see everyone's mock draft, including my own. I do have my list of top 30 draft prospects though.

Dave Lane
02-21-2010, 11:48 AM
Oh come on lets see an earlier one then he can add to his signature, brought to you by the guy who picked the Chiefs 5a draft pick. In February.

KCrockaholic
02-21-2010, 11:54 AM
Oh come on lets see an earlier one then he can add to his signature, brought to you by the guy who picked the Chiefs 5a draft pick. In February.

Heh. I have no problem with that. Matter of fact I'd like to see Mecca's also. Lets see if they both own up and put together a mock. I will put mine out sometime in March :thumb:

mylittlepony
02-21-2010, 12:07 PM
I dont know if I should :banghead: or :popcorn:

BigCatDaddy
02-21-2010, 12:36 PM
I'd like to see a mock draft thread after the draft where everyone picks a player for the Chiefs that either they drafted or was drafted after that pick. Then go back over the next few years and see how we did.

'Hamas' Jenkins
02-21-2010, 12:49 PM
You want a Hamäck, huh?

Give me a few minutes...

Mr. Laz
02-21-2010, 12:50 PM
give him time ... he has to consult mecca's ball sack first

'Hamas' Jenkins
02-21-2010, 01:15 PM
Who I would take:

1.5: Berry, Eric.

If Clausen was here, I'm not sure what I'd do. I like the 2011/12 QBs much more. However, waiting another year to draft a QB means you probably have to wade through another year with that rat shit bum Cassel. I hedge my bets, knowing full well that while the team may win 8 games next year, it will still need a new QB, and it will be easier to get one next year.

2.4: Everson Griffen, DE/OLB USC. He has the tools of Terrell Suggs, but didn't have the production. Nevertheless, he can get you 10-12 sacks from the edge, and I think that he may slide a little bit if Graham and Kindle continue to rise

2.18: Marty Gilyard, WR, Cincinnati. A slightly slower Desean Jackson, and a great compliment to Bowe either on the outside, or in the slot.

3.4: Jonathan Dwyer, RB, Georgia Tech. Drops due to the decreased emphasis on RBs. Still has a lot of mileage on his tires and he was very productive at GT. Perfect compliment for Charles, but couldn't catch crabs from a Saigon whore.

4.4: Micah Johnson. In the words of Hubie Brown: Tremendous Upside Potential. I think his value will go up around the time of the combine, but he's not a workout warrior. He was very productive at Kentucky, and he's a prototypical Ted Backer in a 3-4.

5.5: Matt Tenant, C, BC. Smart, like Rudy. Unlike Rudy, he can play football. He'll never be Kevin Mawae or Nick Mangold, but I think he could give you really good production for 10-12 years. Think Casey Wiegmann or Damien Woody (also a BC guy, FWIW). Pioli should be intimately familiar with him, and the Patriots have a history of drafting BC linemen. This pick makes sense.

5.11: Linval Joseph, DT, ECU: He's a big sumbitch who was also pretty productive for an interior lineman. Didn't play against top-notch BCS competition all the time, but he's not some DII diamond in the rough, either.

5.13: Lindsey Witten, DE/OLB, UConn. Long and lean type, could play RDE in a 4-3, or swing out to outside backer. You can never have enough pass rushers, Griffen's not a sure thing, and Hali's not exactly Joey Porter.

I realize this leaves us wanting at SS. You can't fill every hole.

Next year, I'm targeting WR and QB in the first round. Also, depending on how the draft falls, I think about trading back into it to pick up another inside backer in the 7th.

I have faith in Carr and Albert to man their respective positions, and I want to see what Morgan has as well.

'Hamas' Jenkins
02-21-2010, 01:16 PM
give him time ... he has to consult mecca's ball sack first

Get an episiotomy you weeping fucking vag.

Bowser
02-21-2010, 01:24 PM
Nice mock. Dwyer in the third would be a big get there, but will Griffen fall out of the first? And it's just nitpicking with guys is the fifth round, but would you rather see the Chiefs go for an inside backer there, instead of another pass rush specialist? I have visions of us running out Corey Mays as a starter again, and I'm just not good with that.

chiefzilla1501
02-21-2010, 01:26 PM
Who I would take:

1.5: Berry, Eric.

If Clausen was here, I'm not sure what I'd do. I like the 2011/12 QBs much more. However, waiting another year to draft a QB means you probably have to wade through another year with that rat shit bum Cassel. I hedge my bets, knowing full well that while the team may win 8 games next year, it will still need a new QB, and it will be easier to get one next year.

2.4: Everson Griffen, DE/OLB USC. He has the tools of Terrell Suggs, but didn't have the production. Nevertheless, he can get you 10-12 sacks from the edge, and I think that he may slide a little bit if Graham and Kindle continue to rise

2.18: Marty Gilyard, WR, Cincinnati. A slightly slower Desean Jackson, and a great compliment to Bowe either on the outside, or in the slot.

3.4: Jonathan Dwyer, RB, Georgia Tech. Drops due to the decreased emphasis on RBs. Still has a lot of mileage on his tires and he was very productive at GT. Perfect compliment for Charles, but couldn't catch crabs from a Saigon whore.

4.4: Micah Johnson. In the words of Hubie Brown: Tremendous Upside Potential. I think his value will go up around the time of the combine, but he's not a workout warrior. He was very productive at Kentucky, and he's a prototypical Ted Backer in a 3-4.

5.5: Matt Tenant, C, BC. Smart, like Rudy. Unlike Rudy, he can play football. He'll never be Kevin Mawae or Nick Mangold, but I think he could give you really good production for 10-12 years. Think Casey Wiegmann or Damien Woody (also a BC guy, FWIW). Pioli should be intimately familiar with him, and the Patriots have a history of drafting BC linemen. This pick makes sense.

5.11: Linval Joseph, DT, ECU: He's a big sumbitch who was also pretty productive for an interior lineman. Didn't play against top-notch BCS competition all the time, but he's not some DII diamond in the rough, either.

5.13: Lindsey Witten, DE/OLB, UConn. Long and lean type, could play RDE in a 4-3, or swing out to outside backer. You can never have enough pass rushers, Griffen's not a sure thing, and Hali's not exactly Joey Porter.

I realize this leaves us wanting at SS. You can't fill every hole.

Next year, I'm targeting WR and QB in the first round. Also, depending on how the draft falls, I think about trading back into it to pick up another inside backer in the 7th.

I have faith in Carr and Albert to man their respective positions, and I want to see what Morgan has as well.

I actually really like this draft. One thing I found curious, though, was how late we'd be taking a NT. Any thoughts on where, through free agency/draft, we can find somebody? This is why I'm open to moving Dorsey.

Of course you don't draft for need, but this is one of the positions that I think absolutely, positively must be addressed this offseason.

chiefzilla1501
02-21-2010, 01:28 PM
Nice mock. Dwyer in the third would be a big get there, but will Griffen fall out of the first? And it's just nitpicking with guys is the fifth round, but would you rather see the Chiefs go for an inside backer there, instead of another pass rush specialist? I have visions of us running out Corey Mays as a starter again, and I'm just not good with that.

In a 3-4, you really, really need top-of-the-line playmakers at the OLB position. Not so much at the ILB position.

Mays and Demorrio/DJ isn't exactly what you want. But we're going to have holes. And if there was ever a place to have a hole, it's on the ILB position.

If we get the NT position figured out, that's already a major boost to our ILBs.

'Hamas' Jenkins
02-21-2010, 01:28 PM
Nice mock. Dwyer in the third would be a big get there, but will Griffen fall out of the first? And it's just nitpicking with guys is the fifth round, but would you rather see the Chiefs go for an inside backer there, instead of another pass rush specialist? I have visions of us running out Corey Mays as a starter again, and I'm just not good with that.

There will be several backers in the 7th. I'd rather trade a 7th next year to get one this year.

I don't think we're getting any Comp picks, though.

Bowser
02-21-2010, 01:33 PM
In a 3-4, you really, really need top-of-the-line playmakers at the OLB position. Not so much at the ILB position.

Mays and Demorrio/DJ isn't exactly what you want. But we're going to have holes. And if there was ever a place to have a hole, it's on the ILB position.

If we get the NT position figured out, that's already a major boost to our ILBs.Point. The lack of an averavge/above average NT last year really exposed our ILB'ers. Again, with Krummie taking his bitchslapping elsewhere, maybe we can actually get a guy or two coached up for the position.

Bowser
02-21-2010, 01:35 PM
There will be several backers in the 7th. I'd rather trade a 7th next year to get one this year.

I don't think we're getting any Comp picks, though.Yeah, we didn't "lose" anyone of note last year.

Regardless, I am hopeful that actually having coordinators in place for the entire offseason will pay dividends when the season starts, and that goes for both sides of the ball.

'Hamas' Jenkins
02-21-2010, 01:35 PM
I actually really like this draft. One thing I found curious, though, was how late we'd be taking a NT. Any thoughts on where, through free agency/draft, we can find somebody? This is why I'm open to moving Dorsey.

Of course you don't draft for need, but this is one of the positions that I think absolutely, positively must be addressed this offseason.

I just drafted according to how I thought the board would fall.

I thought about taking two NTs in the 5th. A guy like Kade Weston is someone to watch too.

I really like Cam Thomas. I liked him (and mentioned him) before the Sr. Bowl. But now there is so much hype around him I think he's overrated as a prospect.

I'd have no problem with using the tree connection to bring in Jason Ferguson for a year

chiefzilla1501
02-21-2010, 01:41 PM
Point. The lack of an averavge/above average NT last year really exposed our ILB'ers. Again, with Krummie taking his bitchslapping elsewhere, maybe we can actually get a guy or two coached up for the position.

I don't understand why in 2009 you pivot to a 3-4 knowing full well you don't have a NT.

Not even an effort to bring any bodies in.

The Broncos pulled some guy off the street and got some production. Why didn't the Chiefs at least try to bring a body in? It didn't make any sense.

'Hamas' Jenkins
02-21-2010, 01:42 PM
Ideally, this gives you a team looking like this next year:

RDE: Dorsey
NT: Edwards (Joseph)
LDE: Jackson (Magee)
ROLB: Griffen (Witten)
ILB: M. Johnson (J. Belcher)
ILB: D. Johnson (D. Williams)
LOLB: Hali (Witten)

RCB: Flowers (Washington)
SS: ???? (Morgan)
FS: Berry (Morgan)
LCB: Carr (Leggett)

NCB: Washington


QB: Cassel
RB: Charles (Dwyer)
FB: Cox (Castille)
WR1: Bowe
WR2: Chambers (Gilyard)
Slot: Gilyard
LT: Albert
LG: Waters
C: Tennant
RG: Smith (Niswanger)
RT: Richardson (O'Failaghan)
TE: Cottam (Pope)

doomy3
02-21-2010, 01:42 PM
There will be several backers in the 7th. I'd rather trade a 7th next year to get one this year.

I don't think we're getting any Comp picks, though.

Thanks for posting the mock. I enjoy reading all of these. Haven't heard much about Joseph and Witten, and curious why you chose those guys over some others.

Also, you mentioned that you didn't think we'd get any comp picks. Who would we possibly get a comp pick for?

'Hamas' Jenkins
02-21-2010, 01:43 PM
Here's an idea: Sign and trade Page for a 4th rounder. Use said 4th to either address RT, G, or SS.

'Hamas' Jenkins
02-21-2010, 01:49 PM
Thanks for posting the mock. I enjoy reading all of these. Haven't heard much about Joseph and Witten, and curious why you chose those guys over some others.

Also, you mentioned that you didn't think we'd get any comp picks. Who would we possibly get a comp pick for?

Babin, I guess ROFL...

As to your first point, I've caught a few UConn games from time to time, as I once started an NCAA Dynasty and developed an affinity for them.

I saw ECU play in the CUSA Championship and the Liberty Bowl.

DeezNutz
02-21-2010, 02:01 PM
You think the Chiefs are going to re-sign Chambers?

Given the dearth of FA, I suppose it might be the best of the available options. Walter would be FA target #1 for me, though.

'Hamas' Jenkins
02-21-2010, 02:06 PM
You think the Chiefs are going to re-sign Chambers?

Given the dearth of FA, I suppose it might be the best of the available options. Walter would be FA target #1 for me, though.

I think they will. I wouldn't, but that's another question altogether.

aturnis
02-21-2010, 02:51 PM
Ideally, this gives you a team looking like this next year:

RDE: Dorsey
NT: Edwards (Joseph)
LDE: Jackson (Magee)
ROLB: Griffen (Witten)
ILB: M. Johnson (J. Belcher)
ILB: D. Johnson (D. Williams)
LOLB: Hali (Witten)

RCB: Flowers (Washington)
SS: ???? (Morgan)
FS: Berry (Morgan)
LCB: Carr (Leggett)

NCB: Washington


QB: Cassel
RB: Charles (Dwyer)
FB: Cox (Castille)
WR1: Bowe
WR2: Chambers (Gilyard)
Slot: Gilyard
LT: Albert
LG: Waters
C: Tennant
RG: Smith (Niswanger)
RT: Richardson (O'Failaghan)
TE: Cottam (Pope)

FAIL.

mylittlepony
02-21-2010, 04:15 PM
I dont think its to Griffins advantage to play OLB in the NFL. When I see him he looks more like a Lineman then a player standing up. I know he played the position at USC but I think his strength is his strength and some 4-3 team will swoop him up before the 2nd round. The guy is 280ish isnt he thats way to much for an OLB.

milkman
02-21-2010, 04:20 PM
Nice mock. Dwyer in the third would be a big get there, but will Griffen fall out of the first? And it's just nitpicking with guys is the fifth round, but would you rather see the Chiefs go for an inside backer there, instead of another pass rush specialist? I have visions of us running out Corey Mays as a starter again, and I'm just not good with that.

He's drafted an ILB with the 4th round pick of Micah Johnson, who as he stated has tremendous upside.

I like the picks I'm familiar with overall with the exception of Dwyer.

Just not a fan of one dimensional backs, even as a guy that is simply used to spell your starter.

AustinChief
02-21-2010, 04:29 PM
Who I would take:

1.5: Berry, Eric.

If Clausen was here, I'm not sure what I'd do. I like the 2011/12 QBs much more. However, waiting another year to draft a QB means you probably have to wade through another year with that rat shit bum Cassel. I hedge my bets, knowing full well that while the team may win 8 games next year, it will still need a new QB, and it will be easier to get one next year.

2.4: Everson Griffen, DE/OLB USC. He has the tools of Terrell Suggs, but didn't have the production. Nevertheless, he can get you 10-12 sacks from the edge, and I think that he may slide a little bit if Graham and Kindle continue to rise

2.18: Marty Gilyard, WR, Cincinnati. A slightly slower Desean Jackson, and a great compliment to Bowe either on the outside, or in the slot.

3.4: Jonathan Dwyer, RB, Georgia Tech. Drops due to the decreased emphasis on RBs. Still has a lot of mileage on his tires and he was very productive at GT. Perfect compliment for Charles, but couldn't catch crabs from a Saigon whore.

4.4: Micah Johnson. In the words of Hubie Brown: Tremendous Upside Potential. I think his value will go up around the time of the combine, but he's not a workout warrior. He was very productive at Kentucky, and he's a prototypical Ted Backer in a 3-4.

5.5: Matt Tenant, C, BC. Smart, like Rudy. Unlike Rudy, he can play football. He'll never be Kevin Mawae or Nick Mangold, but I think he could give you really good production for 10-12 years. Think Casey Wiegmann or Damien Woody (also a BC guy, FWIW). Pioli should be intimately familiar with him, and the Patriots have a history of drafting BC linemen. This pick makes sense.

5.11: Linval Joseph, DT, ECU: He's a big sumbitch who was also pretty productive for an interior lineman. Didn't play against top-notch BCS competition all the time, but he's not some DII diamond in the rough, either.

5.13: Lindsey Witten, DE/OLB, UConn. Long and lean type, could play RDE in a 4-3, or swing out to outside backer. You can never have enough pass rushers, Griffen's not a sure thing, and Hali's not exactly Joey Porter.

I realize this leaves us wanting at SS. You can't fill every hole.

Next year, I'm targeting WR and QB in the first round. Also, depending on how the draft falls, I think about trading back into it to pick up another inside backer in the 7th.

I have faith in Carr and Albert to man their respective positions, and I want to see what Morgan has as well.

Not a huge fan of your second pick but the rest is solid. Especially like snagging Gilyard at 2.18

Titty Meat
02-21-2010, 04:37 PM
Here's an idea: Sign and trade Page for a 4th rounder. Use said 4th to either address RT, G, or SS.

You think a team will trade a 4th for Page?

Also who wants to bet Brownie gets re-signed?

'Hamas' Jenkins
02-21-2010, 04:54 PM
You think a team will trade a 4th for Page?

Also who wants to bet Brownie gets re-signed?

If Tyler can fetch a 5th, Page can get a 4th.

Direckshun
02-21-2010, 05:49 PM
Linval Joseph will probably go well before there.

Enjoyed the mock. I really did. I especially like you and I being on the same page about the Chiefs taking advantage of a rare Draft that's deep at passrusher. I just think Linval goes much earlier.

In the 5th, you're going to be taking his teammate, Jay Ross. Much less attractive a prospect. I think you take Udofia at that point, same position.

Direckshun
02-21-2010, 05:51 PM
Also, Dwyer's gone by the 2nd. No way he slips by the Chargers twice.

DeezNutz
02-21-2010, 05:52 PM
Linval Joseph will probably go well before there.

Enjoyed the mock. I really did. I especially like you and I being on the same page about the Chiefs taking advantage of a rare Draft that's deep at passrusher. I just think Linval goes much earlier.

In the 5th, you're going to be taking his teammate, Jay Ross. Much less attractive a prospect. I think you take Udofia at that point, same position.

I just want to quote this post in memory of all the bullshit that gets lobbied about regarding the inability to discuss picks.

chiefzilla1501
02-21-2010, 06:02 PM
Here's an idea: Sign and trade Page for a 4th rounder. Use said 4th to either address RT, G, or SS.

There are several trades I would make. If I could get an extra second rounder, I'd do it in a heartbeat. I absolutely, positively do not want Edwards at NT for another season. If that means giving up Dorsey or especially DJ to bring in an extra pick, then I'd do it. And I wouldn't hesitate to turn around and use those picks on a guy like Wilfork.

I know I'll get shit on for this, but I also think Golden Tate deserves a heavy look in the second round. The more I read up on Charlie Weis' offense, the more I realize he's tailor-made for this scheme and I think he's a guaranteed contributor. I think he brings very similar skill sets to the table as Deion Branch, which aren't good for most teams, but are very good for Weis.

RustShack
02-21-2010, 06:26 PM
If Tyler can fetch a 5th, Page can get a 4th.

Thigpen is a QB.

'Hamas' Jenkins
02-21-2010, 06:27 PM
Thigpen is a QB.

Tank isn't.

'Hamas' Jenkins
02-21-2010, 06:28 PM
Also, Dwyer's gone by the 2nd. No way he slips by the Chargers twice.

He does if Ryan Matthews doesn't.

DeezNutz
02-21-2010, 06:29 PM
Tank isn't.

Nor is Thigpen.

Titty Meat
02-21-2010, 09:16 PM
I'd like to sign Sean Jones and draft Berry. The secondary would be holdin' it did-down.

KCDC
02-21-2010, 09:53 PM
Interesting picks. I might substitute another OL for the RB in the 3rd round. I would hope to get a spell back in FA.

milkman
02-21-2010, 09:56 PM
Interesting picks. I might substitute another OL for the RB in the 3rd round. I would hope to get a spell back in FA.

Who the hell are you going to get in free agency?

Larry Johnson?

chop
02-21-2010, 10:24 PM
Ideally, this gives you a team looking like this next year:

RDE: Dorsey
NT: Edwards (Joseph)
LDE: Jackson (Magee)
ROLB: Griffen (Witten)
ILB: M. Johnson (J. Belcher)
ILB: D. Johnson (D. Williams)
LOLB: Hali (Witten)

RCB: Flowers (Washington)
SS: ???? (Morgan)
FS: Berry (Morgan)
LCB: Carr (Leggett)

NCB: Washington


QB: Cassel
RB: Charles (Dwyer)
FB: Cox (Castille)
WR1: Bowe
WR2: Chambers (Gilyard)
Slot: Gilyard
LT: Albert
LG: Waters
C: Tennant
RG: Smith (Niswanger)
RT: Richardson (O'Failaghan)
TE: Cottam (Pope)

So you think Studebaker will be gone next year?

milkman
02-21-2010, 10:34 PM
So you think Studebaker will be gone next year?

I can't speak to Hamas' thoughts, but we as a fan base grow enamored with marginally talented players who happen to be in the right place at the right time and tend to believe they are more than they are.

Studebaker is just a guy who probably won't be around for long.

KCDC
02-21-2010, 11:09 PM
Who the hell are you going to get in free agency?

Larry Johnson?

Maybe Willie Parker. Just has to be a spell back.

RealSNR
02-22-2010, 12:29 AM
Has Saccopoo/the anti-4H crowd given a review to this mock? It would be interesting to see what they had to say.

DaneMcCloud
02-22-2010, 12:40 AM
I'd like to see a mock draft thread after the draft where everyone picks a player for the Chiefs that either they drafted or was drafted after that pick. Then go back over the next few years and see how we did.

:facepalm:

Saccopoo
02-22-2010, 03:20 AM
Has Saccopoo/the anti-4H crowd given a review to this mock? It would be interesting to see what they had to say.

What? That Hamas' mock results in the Chiefs having the damn near identical lineup that they fielded last season? It's a piece of shit. Period. It doesn't address the key need positions and is a total reach and an over draft at the OLB spot (he drafts two guy who are pure 4-3 DEs and tries to shoehorn them into the OLB spot).

It doesn't address the offensive line at all, because Tennant is way gone by that pick.

Hamas has a man crush on guys like Micah Johnson, but there is a reason that he's considered fifth round talent while possessing an Adonis body. The guy just doesn't get to the play in time. He's a tomato can and there is a reason why a guy like that, who possesses every physical characteristic, is considered a fifth or sixth round guy.

And he picks two guys that are damn near identical in Griffin and Witten, and, as he says, Witten may have more upside than the underperforming Griffin, who got washed out in the games I saw. And that's our high second rounder? Yikes.

Monkeys pick drafts like that. BF Skinners chickens had more solid picks.

'Hamas' Jenkins
02-22-2010, 06:31 AM
What? That Hamas' mock results in the Chiefs having the damn near identical lineup that they fielded last season? It's a piece of shit. Period. It doesn't address the key need positions and is a total reach and an over draft at the OLB spot (he drafts two guy who are pure 4-3 DEs and tries to shoehorn them into the OLB spot).

It doesn't address the offensive line at all, because Tennant is way gone by that pick.

Hamas has a man crush on guys like Micah Johnson, but there is a reason that he's considered fifth round talent while possessing an Adonis body. The guy just doesn't get to the play in time. He's a tomato can and there is a reason why a guy like that, who possesses every physical characteristic, is considered a fifth or sixth round guy.

And he picks two guys that are damn near identical in Griffin and Witten, and, as he says, Witten may have more upside than the underperforming Griffin, who got washed out in the games I saw. And that's our high second rounder? Yikes.

Monkeys pick drafts like that. BF Skinners chickens had more solid picks.

Saccopoo is a paradox. He says a lot, but says nothing.

Every post of his is the manifestation of flinging shit at a wall.

chiefzilla1501
02-22-2010, 06:33 AM
What? That Hamas' mock results in the Chiefs having the damn near identical lineup that they fielded last season? It's a piece of shit. Period. It doesn't address the key need positions and is a total reach and an over draft at the OLB spot (he drafts two guy who are pure 4-3 DEs and tries to shoehorn them into the OLB spot).

It doesn't address the offensive line at all, because Tennant is way gone by that pick.

Hamas has a man crush on guys like Micah Johnson, but there is a reason that he's considered fifth round talent while possessing an Adonis body. The guy just doesn't get to the play in time. He's a tomato can and there is a reason why a guy like that, who possesses every physical characteristic, is considered a fifth or sixth round guy.

And he picks two guys that are damn near identical in Griffin and Witten, and, as he says, Witten may have more upside than the underperforming Griffin, who got washed out in the games I saw. And that's our high second rounder? Yikes.

Monkeys pick drafts like that. BF Skinners chickens had more solid picks.

First, overdrafting the 3-4 OLB position is fine because it's the second most important position on the defense. In the Crennel scheme, it's a very close second to NT. And by the way, 99% of 3-4 OLBs were DEs in college, so there's no shoehorning.

Second, just because o-line is a problem, doesn't mean that you force yourself to reach for picks. It wasn't as big of a problem once Charles got reps and it's going to get better with Weis' quick-strike offense. O-line is a problem, but that doesn't mean you draft o-line in a defense-deep draft. We need defense just as badly as we need offense.

I think it's all-in-all a good mock. Only thing I'd do differently is put more priority on the Nose Tackle position. But I could easily do that by trading Dorsey and using those picks to get Wilfork.

'Hamas' Jenkins
02-22-2010, 06:37 AM
zilla,

Don't worry about it.

Again, this team has more holes than can be filled in one draft. However, you have to realize that Saccopoo has basically pigeonholed himself into the Laz/Micjones/Hootie/Talking Can group, where they disagree with opinions of posters solely because of who offered them.

It's a futile and tired schtick of a cabal of dumbasses.

BigRedChief
02-22-2010, 07:36 AM
Kipers new mock has us taking Davis for the OL.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft10/insider/news/story?id=4918277&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnfl%2fdraft10%2finsider%2fnews%2fstory%3fid%3d4918277

The Bad Guy
02-22-2010, 08:24 AM
I knew Sac would throw his Carl Peterson-ish 2 cents in.

This draft would be excellent for the Chiefs. I'm just shocked SacJohnny doesn't see it that way.

OnTheWarpath15
02-22-2010, 09:27 AM
I knew Sac would throw his Carl Peterson-ish 2 cents in.

This draft would be excellent for the Chiefs. I'm just shocked SacJohnny doesn't see it that way.

Lmao

SacJohnny.

Sfeihc
02-22-2010, 10:08 AM
Hamas, where is Barnes?

Chiefnj2
02-22-2010, 10:36 AM
1st round draft board:
1. Suh. I hate the thought of taking another DL in the top 5, but I've never seen a DL more dominant than that kid. If Suh is available I get on the phone and start trying to trade Dorsey for a 2nd and 4th.
2. Berry. Impact player at position of need.
3. Bradford. If you don't have a franchise QB, take one. He'll need to sit and learn anyway.
4. Bryant. I think he will run faster than people expect. Impact player at position of need. Plus, as a former OC and WR coach, Haley had to lose sleep watching KCs "receivers" last year.

Round 2a - hope a first round talent slid because of a run on a certain position like LOT. Hopefully get Pouncey (the only C IMO that can start right away from this year's draft class), Tate or Graham.

Pick 2b - Look to fill ILB - Spikes or pass rusher (if no Graham) from Sapp/Kindle/Hughes, etc. If a quality corner like the kids from Rutgers or Boise somehow slipped, they would be a huge steal.

Round 3 - ROT or G.

Sully
02-22-2010, 10:52 AM
It doesn't address the key need positions and is a total reach and an over draft at the OLB spot (he drafts two guy who are pure 4-3 DEs and tries to shoehorn them into the OLB spot).



You realize that just about every great 3-4 OLB in the NFL is a 4-3 DE "shoehorned" into the OLB spot, right?

BigCatDaddy
02-22-2010, 11:40 AM
:facepalm:

Problem?

Danman
02-22-2010, 11:57 AM
I like this mock. I'd personally make NT as much higher priority than OLB in this draft. I think a solid middle up front makes all the LBs that much better.

'Hamas' Jenkins
02-22-2010, 12:33 PM
Ultimately, you can't fill every hole. I was trying to think long term here. If I spent a higher pick on a NT, I think the 2010 Chiefs may do better. But I don't know if it helps the Chiefs down the road.

I'd have no problem with signing a guy like Ferguson as a stopgap and then firing multiple 5ths at NT.

Saccopoo
02-22-2010, 01:53 PM
Again, this team has more holes than can be filled in one draft. However, you have to realize that Saccopoo has basically pigeonholed himself into the Laz/Micjones/Hootie/Talking Can group, where they disagree with opinions of posters solely because of who offered them.

C'mon Hamas - that's not true. I've always appreciated your insight, intelligence and wry sense of humor that you bring to the board.

I was just giving you a little shit. Actually, I thought it was a good draft with the exception of Griffen and the glaring lack of a potential starting right tackle. (I really appreciated the inclusion of Witten in the fifth.)

'Hamas' Jenkins
02-22-2010, 05:46 PM
C'mon Hamas - that's not true. I've always appreciated your insight, intelligence and wry sense of humor that you bring to the board.

I was just giving you a little shit. Actually, I thought it was a good draft with the exception of Griffen and the glaring lack of a potential starting right tackle. (I really appreciated the inclusion of Witten in the fifth.)

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kcbubb
02-22-2010, 07:56 PM
Also, Dwyer's gone by the 2nd. No way he slips by the Chargers twice.

this.

Crush
02-23-2010, 06:33 AM
Clausen or Berry please.