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Bill Lundberg
03-04-2010, 02:12 PM
Per Looney on Twitter

OnTheWarpath15
03-04-2010, 02:13 PM
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e57/Thereaper16/2vjso51jpg.gif

Mr. Flopnuts
03-04-2010, 02:14 PM
Oh FFS.

Chiefs Pantalones
03-04-2010, 02:15 PM
WE ARE SO ACTIVE!!!!

Dayze
03-04-2010, 02:15 PM
the Chiefs never cease to amaze me in their decisions.

Pushead2
03-04-2010, 02:16 PM
:spock:

The Bad Guy
03-04-2010, 02:17 PM
Well, that's strike 1 this offseason.

This is a complete and utter joke.

KCUnited
03-04-2010, 02:17 PM
Top 5 pass rush. /Holtus.

The Bad Guy
03-04-2010, 02:18 PM
All you Peppers lovers can cross him off the list as well.

OnTheWarpath15
03-04-2010, 02:19 PM
All you Peppers lovers can cross him off the list as well.

In fairness, that was likely the case regardless of what they did with Vrabel.

SenselessChiefsFan
03-04-2010, 02:21 PM
Okay, let me just play devil's advocate here.....

Vrabel is a good leader and a good locker room influence. He also knows the coordinator and should help with the transition. I kind of expected the Chiefs to draft a OLB, rather than sign a free agent. This means that Vrabel can mentor him.

Dayze
03-04-2010, 02:21 PM
the "Right 53"

Dayze
03-04-2010, 02:22 PM
Okay, let me just play devil's advocate here.....

Vrabel is a good leader and a good locker room influence. He also knows the coordinator and should help with the transition. I kind of expected the Chiefs to draft a OLB, rather than sign a free agent. This means that Vrabel can mentor him.

I hear what you're sayin, but the guy is a complete liability on the field.

ModSocks
03-04-2010, 02:22 PM
Im more interested in what happens with Chambers than Vrabel.

Any news on Page yet? Is he a RFA or an UFA?

ModSocks
03-04-2010, 02:23 PM
I hear what you're sayin, but the guy is a complete liability on the field.

Studebaker will probably start anyway

Dave Lane
03-04-2010, 02:24 PM
I'm sure its not a guaranteed deal. No big deal he helps teach the draft picks all summer gets cut in the last cutdowns from training camp no biggie. Guy knows what he's doing just no gas left. Smart move for no money. Now if they announce he'll be starting next year then I'll be scared.

DeezNutz
03-04-2010, 02:24 PM
We could win a lot of games with 74 Vrabels.

OnTheWarpath15
03-04-2010, 02:24 PM
Im more interested in what happens with Chambers than Vrabel.

Any news on Page yet? Is he a RFA or an UFA?

Chambers is unrestricted, IIRC.

He'll test the market, unless we get a deal done in the next 8.5 hours.

DJ's left nut
03-04-2010, 02:24 PM
FML.

Spare me the 'leader' garbage - he was a whiny bitch for most of last season. Yeah, flipping the opponent the bird when you're getting waxed is some serious leadership.

Vrabel sucks. He can't play anymore so his sole 'contribution' is his name. Nobody on this squad listens to this broke-dick asshole telling people how great things were when he was on the Patriots. Nobody gives a damn.

Absolutely ridiculous.

Again - someone tell me that this isn't something Carl Peterson would've done.

Meet the new boss...

L.A. Chieffan
03-04-2010, 02:25 PM
can he play guard?

Dave Lane
03-04-2010, 02:25 PM
All you Peppers lovers can cross him off the list as well.

Yep cuz the Chiefs D next year is going to be built around Vrabel. :rolleyes:

Dayze
03-04-2010, 02:27 PM
Studebaker will probably start anyway

i guess I'm 50/50 on the idea of keeping a guy around for the purpose of mentoring etc.
assuming, of course, they address the LB position at a point in the draft where the draftee is expected to play on defense/contribute and not be simply a ST body.

I'll lose it if the keep him, and don't address LB until round 4-5 etc.

Chiefnj2
03-04-2010, 02:30 PM
I'm sure its not a guaranteed deal. No big deal he helps teach the draft picks all summer gets cut in the last cutdowns from training camp no biggie. Guy knows what he's doing just no gas left. Smart move for no money. Now if they announce he'll be starting next year then I'll be scared.

Except he doesn't show up to an voluntary workouts. His training/mentor role would be limited.

DeezNutz
03-04-2010, 02:32 PM
FML.

Spare me the 'leader' garbage - he was a whiny bitch for most of last season. Yeah, flipping the opponent the bird when you're getting waxed is some serious leadership.

Vrabel sucks. He can't play anymore so his sole 'contribution' is his name. Nobody on this squad listens to this broke-dick asshole telling people how great things were when he was on the Patriots. Nobody gives a damn.

Absolutely ridiculous.

Again - someone tell me that this isn't something Carl Peterson would've done.

Meet the new boss...

No, no, no.

We're effectively "changing the culture" with the use of "the right 53."

More empty rhetoric to follow.

Dave Lane
03-04-2010, 02:32 PM
Except he doesn't show up to an voluntary workouts. His training/mentor role would be limited.

Might be in the contract he has too.

dirk digler
03-04-2010, 02:33 PM
This was completely expected

ModSocks
03-04-2010, 02:35 PM
Chambers is unrestricted, IIRC.

He'll test the market, unless we get a deal done in the next 8.5 hours.

What about Page though? Is he a F/A?

OnTheWarpath15
03-04-2010, 02:36 PM
What about Page though? Is he a F/A?

Page is RFA.

Archie Bunker
03-04-2010, 02:37 PM
This was completely expected

and that is the saddest part IMO.

The Franchise
03-04-2010, 02:37 PM
Hey guys....someone has to give Haley the gatorade bath when we win the Superbowl. :D

Hog's Gone Fishin
03-04-2010, 02:39 PM
But does this mean we still can't cut him later. ?

OnTheWarpath15
03-04-2010, 02:40 PM
Hey guys....someone has to give Haley the gatorade bath when we win the Superbowl. :D

That brokedick will be roaming the sideline in a fucking Rascal Scooter by the time this organization wins a Super Bowl.

CoMoChief
03-04-2010, 02:40 PM
Lets bring back Goff.

Farzin
03-04-2010, 02:42 PM
I was really hoping it would have been DJ or Chambers.. I just heard about DJ and the tender recently..

The Franchise
03-04-2010, 02:43 PM
Seriously though.....this is fucking horrible. Vrabel is done....and all he's doing is cashing a paycheck while riding on the stationary bike next year.

OnTheWarpath15
03-04-2010, 02:43 PM
I was really hoping it would have been DJ or Chambers..

If I'm Chambers, I'm not taking a deal to catch passes from Matt Cassel until I've tested the market.

Mr. Flopnuts
03-04-2010, 02:43 PM
I hope this is just from a player/coach perspective and he's not going to be seeing much of the field.

OnTheWarpath15
03-04-2010, 02:44 PM
Seriously though.....this is fucking horrible. Vrabel is done....and all he's doing is cashing a paycheck while riding on the stationary bike next year.

Someone has to take Zach Thomas' place at camp.

Hopefully, he ends up in the unemployment line in August like Thomas did.

ModSocks
03-04-2010, 02:44 PM
Page is RFA.

Hrmmmm....I wonder if he'll be tendered. You'd think you would hear about page at the same time you'd hear about DJ

The Franchise
03-04-2010, 02:45 PM
Someone has to take Zach Thomas' place at camp.

Hopefully, he ends up in the unemployment line in August like Thomas did.

He came over from the Patriots.....there is no way that Pioli releases him before the season starts.

OnTheWarpath15
03-04-2010, 02:45 PM
He came over from the Patriots.....there is no way that Pioli releases him before the season starts.

QUIT FUCKING WITH MY DREAMS!

DJ's left nut
03-04-2010, 02:47 PM
I hope this is just from a player/coach perspective and he's not going to be seeing much of the field.

But that's just mitigating stupid.

If we're exceedingly lucky, he won't be on the field much. We'll simply be paying him to act as a mentor. Unfortunately, the guy showed that he's pretty much nothing more than a petulant bitch when his team's not winning SBs, so he's going to suck immensly at that job.

But hey, if he can only suck as a mentor as opposed to sucking at both being a mentor and being a linebacker, I suppose we should count ourselves as lucky.

!@#$ this is annoying.

Blick
03-04-2010, 02:48 PM
You gotta be fuckin kidding me.

The Franchise
03-04-2010, 02:49 PM
I wonder if we signed him to a $63 million dollar deal.

Farzin
03-04-2010, 02:50 PM
Well, this better mean that Vrabel shows up to OTAs.. otherwise this is stupid.

OnTheWarpath15
03-04-2010, 02:50 PM
I wonder if we signed him to a $63 million dollar deal.

ROFL

Don't worry, the $28M guaranteed will be paid in the first two years, so we can cut him in 2012.

The Franchise
03-04-2010, 02:51 PM
ROFL

Come on dude.....all you have to do is put talent around him and he's a franchise OLB!!!!

DJ's left nut
03-04-2010, 02:51 PM
It's like signing Donnie Edwards, but only if Donnie Edwards sucked even worse and was a simpering asshole to boot.

Yet another example of Scott Pioli being little more than a younger Carl Peterson. If this !@#$stain drafts a damn O-lineman, it's time to give up on him.

OnTheWarpath15
03-04-2010, 02:51 PM
Well, this better mean that Vrabel shows up to OTAs.. otherwise this is stupid.

It's stupid even if he does show.

Mr. Flopnuts
03-04-2010, 02:53 PM
But that's just mitigating stupid.

If we're exceedingly lucky, he won't be on the field much. We'll simply be paying him to act as a mentor. Unfortunately, the guy showed that he's pretty much nothing more than a petulant bitch when his team's not winning SBs, so he's going to suck immensly at that job.

But hey, if he can only suck as a mentor as opposed to sucking at both being a mentor and being a linebacker, I suppose we should count ourselves as lucky.

!@#$ this is annoying.

I don't disagree with you 1oz. But it's still the best case scenario at this point. Bellicheck is laughing his ass off right now.

L.A. Chieffan
03-04-2010, 02:55 PM
hes still probably the best TE we got

OnTheWarpath15
03-04-2010, 02:56 PM
hes still probably the best TE we got

http://i28.tinypic.com/k0gcnb.jpg

The Franchise
03-04-2010, 02:56 PM
hes still probably the best TE we got

:shake:

Farzin
03-04-2010, 02:57 PM
It's stupid even if he does show.

Not that I disagree, but since he's already re-signed, we're just going to have to accept it. He's a Chief heading into 2010. If this is the case, I don't want to see another year of him not showing up to OTAs and only attending practices when he needs to.

Not that I'm pushing for it, but hopefully with Romeo Crennel and Vrabel reuniting, Vrabel will look better than last year under his former defensive coordinator.

OnTheWarpath15
03-04-2010, 02:57 PM
:shake:

Sadly, at worst, he's our second best behind Cottam.

Jesus. I'm going to pour myself a drink.

The Franchise
03-04-2010, 02:58 PM
Not that I disagree, but since he's already re-signed, we're just going to have to accept it. He's a Chief heading into 2010. If this is the case, I don't want to see another year of him not showing up to OTAs and only attending practices when he needs to.

Not that I'm pushing for it, but hopefully with Romeo Crennel and Vrabel reuniting, Vrabel will look better than last year under his former defensive coordinator.

How would a different coordinator make a difference? It's not like Crennel can make him fucking younger? The guy is done....stick a fork in him.

The Franchise
03-04-2010, 02:59 PM
Sadly, at worst, he's our second best behind Cottam.

Jesus. I'm going to pour myself a drink.

Shit....pour me one as well.

OnTheWarpath15
03-04-2010, 03:01 PM
How would a different coordinator make a difference? It's not like Crennel can make him fucking younger? The guy is done....stick a fork in him.

Maybe RAC can transplant the legs of a 25 year old onto Vrabel's torso.

Otherwise, stick a motherfucking fork in him.

DJ's left nut
03-04-2010, 03:02 PM
Not that I disagree, but since he's already re-signed, we're just going to have to accept it. He's a Chief heading into 2010. If this is the case, I don't want to see another year of him not showing up to OTAs and only attending practices when he needs to.

Not that I'm pushing for it, but hopefully with Romeo Crennel and Vrabel reuniting, Vrabel will look better than last year under his former defensive coordinator.

Does Crennel lactate magic age-reversing goo?

35 year old linebackers coming off 2 consecutive lousy seasons do not suddenly improve, regardless of their coordinator.

The man is done. He's old, he's in obvious decline, he's a douche. He's just MFing done.

And the Football Messiah has made a voluntary decision to pay this man.

OnTheWarpath15
03-04-2010, 03:03 PM
Shit....pour me one as well.

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Mr. Flopnuts
03-04-2010, 03:03 PM
I'm sure it wasn't more than a 5 year deal.

OnTheWarpath15
03-04-2010, 03:03 PM
I'm sure it wasn't more than a 5 year deal.

LMAO

Farzin
03-04-2010, 03:06 PM
Does Crennel lactate magic age-reversing goo?


I never made the judgement that Vrabel will be better just because of Crennel coming back. All I'm saying is, he may be some what better than last year. I just have a feeling this is what Crennel really wanted. Hopefully he's got one more year left. We'll see.

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-04-2010, 03:07 PM
Pioli is an idiot piece of shit and has proven it every time he's made a personnel decision. As Whitlock (yes, your Antichrist) said, "If Pioli starts next season with Romeo Crennel and Charlie Weis as coordinators, it will be obvious that he doesn't have one original idea".

This guy is a fucking clown.

The Right "53", my ass.

Bring in a broke dick LB who sues the team after his worthless as is cut. That's a great example.

Re-sign another broke dick LB who pouts all last offseason, produces for shit, and loses his composure when getting his taint handed to him.

I can't believe we're paying this fucking retard 5 million dollars a year when you could get the same performance from a janitor making 9 bucks an hour in the offices of Foxborough and Miami.

Dude just sifts through the used stools of Belichick and Parcells. Fuck him. Hire a guy from Waste Management.

The Franchise
03-04-2010, 03:08 PM
Pioli is an idiot piece of shit and has proven it every time he's made a personnel decision. As Whitlock (yes, your Antichrist) said, "If Pioli starts next season with Romeo Crennel and Charlie Weis as coordinators, it will be obvious that he doesn't have one original idea".

This guy is a fucking clown.

The Right "53", my ass.

Bring in a broke dick LB who sues the team after his worthless as is cut. That's a great example.

Re-sign another broke dick LB who pouts all last offseason, produces for shit, and loses his composure when getting his taint handed to him.

I can't believe we're paying this fucking retard 5 million dollars a year when you could get the same performance from a janitor making 9 bucks an hour in the offices of Foxborough and Miami.

Dude just sifts through the used stools of Belichick and Parcells. Fuck him. Hire a guy from Waste Management.

Strike 1,000,000,000

OnTheWarpath15
03-04-2010, 03:09 PM
JESUS.

TAPDANCING.

CHRIST.

http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/chiefs-sign-vrabel-tender-o-linemen.html

Also, the Chiefs have given starting center Rudy Niswanger, starting RT Ryan O’Callaghan and backup tackle Ikechuku Ndukwe tender offers with a second-round draft choice as the compensation. For four-year veterans Niswanger and O’Callaghan, that’s one-year deals for $1,759,000 and for three-year player Ndukwe that’s a tender worth $1,684,000.

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-04-2010, 03:09 PM
Not that I disagree, but since he's already re-signed, we're just going to have to accept it. He's a Chief heading into 2010. If this is the case, I don't want to see another year of him not showing up to OTAs and only attending practices when he needs to.

Not that I'm pushing for it, but hopefully with Romeo Crennel and Vrabel reuniting, Vrabel will look better than last year under his former defensive coordinator.

When the fuck did Romeo Crennel turn into Midas? Did you see his defenses in Cleveland?

The Franchise
03-04-2010, 03:10 PM
JESUS.

TAPDANCING.

CHRIST.

http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/chiefs-sign-vrabel-tender-o-linemen.html

Also, the Chiefs have given starting center Rudy Niswanger, starting RT Ryan O’Callaghan and backup tackle Ikechuku Ndukwe tender offers with a second-round draft choice as the compensation. For four-year veterans Niswanger and O’Callaghan, that’s one-year deals for $1,759,000 and for three-year player Ndukwe that’s a tender worth $1,684,000.

ROFL:spock:

They only did that so other teams would know where to start the bidding.

Mr. Flopnuts
03-04-2010, 03:10 PM
JESUS.

TAPDANCING.

CHRIST.

http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/chiefs-sign-vrabel-tender-o-linemen.html

Also, the Chiefs have given starting center Rudy Niswanger, starting RT Ryan O’Callaghan and backup tackle Ikechuku Ndukwe tender offers with a second-round draft choice as the compensation. For four-year veterans Niswanger and O’Callaghan, that’s one-year deals for $1,759,000 and for three-year player Ndukwe that’s a tender worth $1,684,000.

Yeah, that was posted in the DJ thread. I'm going to have a fucking stroke.

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-04-2010, 03:11 PM
Does anyone in here have experience with website building?

The Franchise
03-04-2010, 03:11 PM
Does anyone in here have experience with website building?

LMAO


www.strike1billionpioli.com????

Archie Bunker
03-04-2010, 03:12 PM
I'm trying to save my complete meltdown for when they bring Brown back but this is the the type of start to the offseason I feared the most. Bringing back the same failed scrubs from the goddamn "tree" just feels too much like a Peterson move.

The Franchise
03-04-2010, 03:13 PM
I'm trying to save my complete meltdown for when they bring Brown back but this is the the type of start to the offseason I feared the most. Bringing back the same failed scrubs from the goddamn "tree" just feels too much like a Peterson move.

I can see it now......they're going to bring back everyone but Chambers.....draft an OT in the 1st round.....and then sit back as all of the true fans bust a nut.

dirk digler
03-04-2010, 03:13 PM
JESUS.

TAPDANCING.

CHRIST.

http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/chiefs-sign-vrabel-tender-o-linemen.html

Also, the Chiefs have given starting center Rudy Niswanger, starting RT Ryan O’Callaghan and backup tackle Ikechuku Ndukwe tender offers with a second-round draft choice as the compensation. For four-year veterans Niswanger and O’Callaghan, that’s one-year deals for $1,759,000 and for three-year player Ndukwe that’s a tender worth $1,684,000.

Hopefully that is for depth only.

OnTheWarpath15
03-04-2010, 03:13 PM
Yeah, that was posted in the DJ thread. I'm going to have a fucking stroke.

I'm sitting in my office, with a tumbler of scotch, literally laughing my ass off.

Disappointment: The Official Feeling of Fans of the Kansas City Chiefs.

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-04-2010, 03:14 PM
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Mr. Flopnuts
03-04-2010, 03:14 PM
I can see it now......they're going to bring back everyone but Chambers.....draft an OT in the 1st round.....and then sit back as all of the true fans bust a nut.

:deevee:

DeezNutz
03-04-2010, 03:14 PM
JESUS.

TAPDANCING.

CHRIST.

http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/chiefs-sign-vrabel-tender-o-linemen.html

Also, the Chiefs have given starting center Rudy Niswanger, starting RT Ryan O’Callaghan and backup tackle Ikechuku Ndukwe tender offers with a second-round draft choice as the compensation. For four-year veterans Niswanger and O’Callaghan, that’s one-year deals for $1,759,000 and for three-year player Ndukwe that’s a tender worth $1,684,000.

LMAO.

Any takers on the outcome of the upcoming draft?

Marcellus
03-04-2010, 03:14 PM
This place cracks me up. Holy shit they resigned Vrabel. He is already in the starting line up as we speak.

-King-
03-04-2010, 03:15 PM
This is the kind of news you just have to laugh at.....just to avoid going batshit mad.




FML

Blick
03-04-2010, 03:15 PM
LMAO


www.strike1billionpioli.com????

Shouldn't it be motherfuckyouscottpioli.com?

OnTheWarpath15
03-04-2010, 03:15 PM
Hey, on the bright side, payroll is now up to $45M.

Mr. Flopnuts
03-04-2010, 03:15 PM
I'm sitting in my office, with a tumbler of scotch, literally laughing my ass off.

Disappointment: The Official Feeling of Fans of the Kansas City Chiefs.

I don't drink and I'm out of pot. My blood pressure is up about 30 points. Remember Mr. Flopnuts, it's just fucking football. It's just fucking football. It's just fucking football.

The Franchise
03-04-2010, 03:16 PM
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You're in luck.

|Zach|
03-04-2010, 03:16 PM
I'm sitting in my office, with a tumbler of scotch, literally laughing my ass off.

Disappointment: The Official Feeling of Fans of the Kansas City Chiefs.

You guys crack me up.

BigRock
03-04-2010, 03:17 PM
The state of this fucking place.

Titty Meat
03-04-2010, 03:17 PM
I hope the Gambinos get ahold of Pioli.

Marcellus
03-04-2010, 03:18 PM
None of these contracts are guaranteed until the regular season starts right?

dirk digler
03-04-2010, 03:19 PM
So we are waiting on the decision for Mays, Page and Croyle.

Titty Meat
03-04-2010, 03:19 PM
Hey Scott do your tits bounce when the Ex-Patriots fuck you?

Demonpenz
03-04-2010, 03:19 PM
that's it...I'm done

DeezNutz
03-04-2010, 03:20 PM
Hey Scott do your tits bounce when the Ex-Patriots **** you?

LMAO.

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-04-2010, 03:21 PM
The funny thing is, I'm not even mad. I'm animated, but not mad. I am honestly and sincerely impressed that someone so highly regarded at his job could be this fucking bad at it.

I'm officially renaming it the Pioli Principle.

Marcellus
03-04-2010, 03:21 PM
Once again I have to ask, contracts guaranteed or not?

dirk digler
03-04-2010, 03:24 PM
Once again I have to ask, contracts guaranteed or not?

I think it is guaranteed.

Also interesting not from Gretz about all of this

What type of tender offer a team makes to one of its RFAs is an indication of where that player fits in the overall landscape of the team. For instance, an RFA given a tender offer that requires compensation of first and third-round draft choices isn’t going anywhere. It’s generally the same circumstances for an RFA tender with first-round compensation.

Offers at the compensation level of a second-round pick or the player’s original draft round are indications of the team saying “we’d like to keep this player, but we will listen to offers.”

An offer that simply keeps the team’s right of first refusal is an indication of the team willing to lose the RFA.

Rexx
03-04-2010, 03:24 PM
I don't think I have posted in over a year...hardly ever do. But this is just flat out a stupid move by the Chiefs brass. I cannot believe they would do this. I'm not sure this management is any better than the Peterson era after this boneheaded move. Jesus!

ModSocks
03-04-2010, 03:24 PM
The funny thing is, I'm not even mad. I'm animated, but not mad. I am honestly and sincerely impressed that someone so highly regarded at his job could be this ****ing bad at it.

I'm officially renaming it the Pioli Principle.

Meh. I knew it was coming. Im surprised that people are surprised by this.

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-04-2010, 03:25 PM
Once again I have to ask, contracts guaranteed or not?

No. But how do we not know that these guys suck and aren't worthy of tendering?

OnTheWarpath15
03-04-2010, 03:26 PM
Once again I have to ask, contracts guaranteed or not?

I suspect you haven't gotten an answer because no one knows for sure.

It doesn't matter anyway.

chiefscafan
03-04-2010, 03:26 PM
What about vrabel in the middle? Anyone think of that?

dirk digler
03-04-2010, 03:26 PM
No. But how do we not know that these guys suck and aren't worthy of tendering?

You know what is funny they tendered Ndukwe and didn't we trade for him for a very low round draft choice?

T

The Franchise
03-04-2010, 03:26 PM
What about vrabel in the middle? Anyone think of that?

:shake:

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-04-2010, 03:27 PM
What about vrabel in the middle? Anyone think of that?

:facepalm:

Titty Meat
03-04-2010, 03:27 PM
What about vrabel in the middle? Anyone think of that?

Vrbael in the middle of Haley & Pioli during a threesome in the locker room? Yea its possible.

OnTheWarpath15
03-04-2010, 03:27 PM
What about vrabel in the middle? Anyone think of that?

ROFL

The Franchise
03-04-2010, 03:27 PM
Vrbael in the middle of Haley & Pioli during a threesome in the locker room? Yea its possible.

ROFL

Titty Meat
03-04-2010, 03:28 PM
Seriously whats the point in keeping Vrabel? It was obvious he didn't want to be here.

CaliforniaChief
03-04-2010, 03:28 PM
And the Studebaker goes back in the garage.

L.A. Chieffan
03-04-2010, 03:28 PM
What about vrabel in the middle? Anyone think of that?

chiefscafan...something wrong? you're sweating

Titty Meat
03-04-2010, 03:29 PM
And the Studebaker goes back in the garage.

ROFL

KCDC
03-04-2010, 03:35 PM
Hey, it's for depth hopefully. We'll draft an OLB, Studebaker will see more playing time, and Vrabel may be a good roleplayer for a relatively cheap salary. If not, cut him. His salary is not that big, and there is no salary cap anyway, so his re-signing is not going to really impact much of anything.

DJ's left nut
03-04-2010, 03:36 PM
Shouldn't it be mother****youscottpioli.com?

I was actually thinking www.dieinafirescottpioli.com

Rooster
03-04-2010, 03:37 PM
Seriously whats the point in keeping Vrabel? It was obvious he didn't want to be here.

None of them wants to be there.

chiefscafan
03-04-2010, 03:39 PM
Billay very funny I actually like that comment. Just suggesting something to make sense. I want to have trust in pioli so just trying to make sense of the vrabel signing.

The Franchise
03-04-2010, 03:41 PM
Billay very funny I actually like that comment. Just suggesting something to make sense. I want to have trust in pioli so just trying to make sense of the vrabel signing.

Vrabel playing in the middle doesn't make any sense. The only thing that makes sense is letting that old fucker leave this team.

lostcause
03-04-2010, 03:49 PM
Oh whats the problem here? Vrabel may be old, but he's slow!

Mecca
03-04-2010, 03:50 PM
It's good to see our team highly values old broke dicks who can't go anymore.

MOhillbilly
03-04-2010, 04:11 PM
It's good to see our team highly values old broke dicks who can't go anymore.

Dont forget the young broke dicks who never could play.

Icon
03-04-2010, 04:14 PM
I can't say I'm surprised. Good news is the Chiefs were reportedly interested in Jermaine Cunningham from Florida who would be a very good replacement for Vrabel if the Chiefs draft him. Vrabel is insurance in case we get nothing better. This team has so many holes you can't fill them in one or two years.

Mecca
03-04-2010, 04:15 PM
Vrabel got resigned because we traded for him, period.

That trade was such a bag of ass...maybe it's time to just admit it.

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-04-2010, 04:16 PM
I've never heard of half of these guys, and the ones I do know are way past their prime.

-Most of these guys never had a prime.

Titty Meat
03-04-2010, 04:18 PM
I've never heard of half of these guys, and the ones I do know are way past their prime.

-Most of these guys never had a prime.

I'm a hustler ask about me.

- Clark Hunt

Mr. Flopnuts
03-04-2010, 04:20 PM
Times are tough. The Social Security Administration sent Pioli a letter personally asking for the favor of tendering Vrabel so they could put off his SSI checks for one more year.

DJ's left nut
03-04-2010, 04:23 PM
I've never heard of half of these guys, and the ones I do know are way past their prime.

-Most of these guys never had a prime.

"This guy here is dead."

http://www.bostonherald.com/blogs/sports/rap_sheet/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/henry.jpg

"Cross him off, then..."

Titty Meat
03-04-2010, 04:26 PM
"This guy here is dead."

http://www.bostonherald.com/blogs/sports/rap_sheet/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/henry.jpg

"Cross him off, then..."

Horrible lol

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-04-2010, 04:27 PM
I just hope this guy is in the way of the runner when he's ready to hand over the card announcing our plan to draft Bulaga:

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KCChiefsMan
03-04-2010, 04:27 PM
I don't care if we keep Vrabel. But I would prefer to keep Chambers as our #1 priority on who to keep

BryanBusby
03-04-2010, 04:27 PM
Argh jesus Christ, Niswanger got a 2nd round tender. Does he have gay photos of Pioli and Clark Hunt together or some shit?

OnTheWarpath15
03-04-2010, 04:31 PM
I don't care if we keep Vrabel. But I would prefer to keep Chambers as our #1 priority on who to keep

Again:

Chambers is an unrestricted FA.

He's be an absolute idiot to make a deal with KC without seeing the market.

If you were a WR looking to sign your last contract, would you want to sign with a bottom-dweller, catching passes from one of the worst starting QB's in the league, in a small market - without testing the waters - or dive into the market and see what interest there is?

There's always the possibility he tests the market and then re-signs with KC, but would be stupid to do so tonight without testing the market.

PRIEST
03-04-2010, 04:33 PM
Okay, let me just play devil's advocate here.....

Vrabel is a good leader and a good locker room influence. He also knows the coordinator and should help with the transition. I kind of expected the Chiefs to draft a OLB, rather than sign a free agent. This means that Vrabel can mentor him.



THIS

Titty Meat
03-04-2010, 04:36 PM
Again:

Chambers is an unrestricted FA.

He's be an absolute idiot to make a deal with KC without seeing the market.

If you were a WR looking to sign your last contract, would you want to sign with a bottom-dweller, catching passes from one of the worst starting QB's in the league, in a small market - without testing the waters - or dive into the market and see what interest there is?

There's always the possibility he tests the market and then re-signs with KC, but would be stupid to do so tonight without testing the market.

Do you not know how much of an honor it would be to be called part of the Right 53? Out of the thousands of NFL players to be part of the right 53 is a great excuse to take below market value.

Mecca
03-04-2010, 04:36 PM
I'm sorry this idea that vet players will mentor young guys to take their jobs is hilarious.

That doesn't happen, if anything vets get pissy about it and want the young guys to fail. Amani Toomer basically threw a shit fit when he realized Steve Smith was going to replace him..

Titty Meat
03-04-2010, 04:37 PM
Dansby is a leader and an actual good player why not offer him a guarnteed 30 mil and call it a day?

DaneMcCloud
03-04-2010, 04:38 PM
THIS

Is fucking stupid

DaneMcCloud
03-04-2010, 04:39 PM
Okay, let me just play devil's advocate here.....

Vrabel is a good leader and a good locker room influence. He also knows the coordinator and should help with the transition. I kind of expected the Chiefs to draft a OLB, rather than sign a free agent. This means that Vrabel can mentor him.

Hey Senseless, please explain how Vrabel is a "good" locker room leader when he refuses to attend OTA's and mini-camps, flips off opposing fans and acts like a whiny bitch.

I'll be waiting, you fucking retard.

DaneMcCloud
03-04-2010, 04:40 PM
Anyone expecting the Chiefs to have a great draft in 2010 is fooling themselves.

Pioli knows less about personnel than any previous Chiefs GM.

OnTheWarpath15
03-04-2010, 04:41 PM
Is fucking stupid

LMAO

DJ's left nut
03-04-2010, 04:43 PM
Vets haven't 'mentored' the youngsters since they realized that the veterans minimum requirements built into the salary cap structure often meant that those young players would mean the older guys would be unemployed soon.

Mike Vrabel didn't lead !@#$. Mike Vrabel didn't mentor !@#$. He's just a broke-dick has been that our front office traded for so they feel compelled to keep around, well that and the fact that he's a pretty good snitch for them. He's a liability on the field. He's now a proven liability in the locker room.

There is no silver lining to this thing. There is no Devil's Advocate. There is no bright side. Mike Vrabel getting a contract extension is an unqualified fuckup in every single way. Even if we cut him before camp, we spent at least 15 minutes printing and signing a form contract that could've been spent reading a book on how Bill Belichick drafts guys are even re-seeding Arrowhead. Any amount of effort spend on this guy was effort wasted.

Screw anyone that is even attempting to defend this. Your and idiot, aids trees, anti-freeze, dying in fires and all that stuff apply.

Fish
03-04-2010, 04:48 PM
Something left in the tank.... veteran leadership.... print things.... to the ferry..... [plunges ink pen in eye socket]

Titty Meat
03-04-2010, 04:50 PM
Anyone expecting the Chiefs to have a great draft in 2010 is fooling themselves.

Pioli knows less about personnel than any previous Chiefs GM.

Haley was right about the worst being over though. Atleast we aren't giving up 2nd rund picks for 34 year old LB's anymore.

OnTheWarpath15
03-04-2010, 04:51 PM
Haley was right about the worst being over though. Atleast we aren't giving up 2nd rund picks for 34 year old LB's anymore.

LMAO

At least not yet...

FAX
03-04-2010, 04:51 PM
There's nothing wrong with this. Nothing whatsoever.

We need a few guys like Vrabel, frankly ... an experienced vet who knows how to play the 3/4 and is on the same page as our DC. You can't build a defense around Vrabel, but he can help move the process along in the right direction.

FAX

DJ's left nut
03-04-2010, 04:52 PM
Haley was right about the worst being over though. Atleast we aren't giving up 2nd rund picks for 34 year old LB's anymore.

Thank God the Patriots cut Andrew Walter.

Pioli might've been tempted to send them a 1st rounder for him and Tedy Bruschi.

OnTheWarpath15
03-04-2010, 04:52 PM
Thank God the Patriots cut Andrew Walter.

Pioli might've been tempted to send them a 1st rounder for him and Tedy Bruschi.

ROFL

Mecca
03-04-2010, 04:59 PM
There's nothing wrong with this. Nothing whatsoever.

We need a few guys like Vrabel, frankly ... an experienced vet who knows how to play the 3/4 and is on the same page as our DC. You can't build a defense around Vrabel, but he can help move the process along in the right direction.

FAX

Yea he sure helped them this past season didn't he?

BigRock
03-04-2010, 05:01 PM
I'm sorry this idea that vet players will mentor young guys to take their jobs is hilarious.

That doesn't happen

Really? So Andy Studebaker's, what, just a liar?

And that stuff about Anthony Pleasant, the new defensive line coach, how he used to keep Richard Seymour and Ty Warren after practice and work with them even though both guys were drafted to replace him, what was that? Just bullshit?

To say nothing of numerous other examples over the years.

DBOSHO
03-04-2010, 05:05 PM
Whats wrong with vrabel? He was our best lb.

The Franchise
03-04-2010, 05:06 PM
Whats wrong with vrabel? He was our best lb.

:facepalm:

Marcellus
03-04-2010, 05:08 PM
I suspect you haven't gotten an answer because no one knows for sure.

It doesn't matter anyway.

The contracts are not guaranteed unless they are on the team at the beginning of the regular season from what I understand so there is no risk to keeping these guys around until the dust settles after FA, the draft, and camp.

Tendering a player means shit, you don't have to give up a fucking pick to keep them and none of them named so far will cost much at all.

Damn this is the overreact capital of the world.

DBOSHO
03-04-2010, 05:08 PM
Okay, he was the best tackler.

LaChapelle
03-04-2010, 05:10 PM
I feel no loss of skin on my nose

Bwana
03-04-2010, 05:30 PM
:facepalm:

OnTheWarpath15
03-04-2010, 05:44 PM
The contracts are not guaranteed unless they are on the team at the beginning of the regular season from what I understand so there is no risk to keeping these guys around until the dust settles after FA, the draft, and camp.

Tendering a player means shit, you don't have to give up a fucking pick to keep them and none of them named so far will cost much at all.

Damn this is the overreact capital of the world.

Of course there's no risk.

But there's no fucking reward, either.

I have no idea why this fanbase is fascinated with re-signing players they KNOW are shitty.

DBOSHO
03-04-2010, 05:46 PM
Okay lets just let vrabel go and trade a 6th for demarcus ware.

stevieray
03-04-2010, 05:47 PM
I have no idea why this fanbase is fascinated with re-signing players they KNOW are shitty.
I have no idea why a fanbase would even follow a team they KNOW is shitty.

OnTheWarpath15
03-04-2010, 05:50 PM
I have no idea why a fanbase would even follow a team they KNOW is shitty.

Hope that after 30+ years, someone figures out how to build a champion?

stevieray
03-04-2010, 05:53 PM
Hope that after 30+ years, someone figures out how to build a champion?

they obviously don't...so why waste the time and energy?

you hoping it's going change by this fall?

The Bad Guy
03-04-2010, 05:54 PM
I have no idea why a fanbase would even follow a team they KNOW is shitty.

This line of thinking is hilarious.

I follow the Chiefs because they are my team. When I was young, I got sucked in. I have been passionate about them ever since. They are what I love regardless of win or lose.

Now, that doesn't mean I turn a blind eye and kiss the ass of everything they do when they do something stupid.

I can compare to them to my brother.

I love my brother to death. I'll support him always. But when he does something ****ing stupid, I will call him on it and kick him in his ass so he makes better choices next time.

Now, I can't kick the Chiefs in the ass, but I can voice my displeasure on here. That's what CHIEFSPLANET is here for. For opinions about the Chiefs.

The Chiefs constantly make stupid decisions, yet, we should just sit back and enjoy it? I'll never switch teams, just like I'd never abandon my brother, but I can voice my displeasure without someone telling me "it's just entertainment".

What's even more funny is this is coming from you. Someone who dressed up as a character to go to games. I would think you would be emotionally invested more than anyone and able to critcize when you saw fit.

stevieray
03-04-2010, 05:56 PM
This line of thinking is hilarious.

I follow the Chiefs because they are my team. When I was young, I got sucked in. I have been passionate about them ever since. They are what I love regardless of win or lose.

Now, that doesn't mean I turn a blind eye and kiss the ass of everything they do when they do something stupid.

I can compare to them to my brother.

I love my brother to death. I'll support him always. But when he does something ****ing stupid, I will call him on it and kick him in his ass so he makes better choices next time.

The Chiefs constantly make stupid decisions, yet, we should just sit back and enjoy it? I'll never switch teams, just like I'd never abandon my brother, but I can voice my displeasure without someone telling me "it's just entertainment".

What's even more funny is this is coming from you. Someone who dressed up as a character to go to games. I would think you would be emotionally invested more than anyone and able to critcize when you saw fit.

so if your brother sucks at football, you gonna make him play, hoping someday he'll be athletic, then tell him how much he sucks at football in the meantime?

why do you think I'm not doing it anymore? I'm constantly amazed how others think FDE was anything more than just trying to have good time.

dirk digler
03-04-2010, 05:57 PM
Of course there's no risk.

But there's no fucking reward, either.

I have no idea why this fanbase is fascinated with re-signing players they KNOW are shitty.

Don't laugh but maybe they are using them for trade bait

The Bad Guy
03-04-2010, 05:58 PM
so if your brother sucks at football, you gonna make him play, hoping someday he'll be athletic, then tell him how much he sucks in the meantime?

why do you think I'm not doing it anymore?

Because I'm a glutten for punishment.

I didn't know that was the reason. Kudos to you for making a stand against the horrid product.

stevieray
03-04-2010, 06:03 PM
Because I'm a glutten for punishment.

I didn't know that was the reason. Kudos to you for making a stand against the horrid product.
they show some potential..I might come back...my daughters think I should at least do the donkey and faider games.

The Bad Guy
03-04-2010, 06:06 PM
they show some potential..I might come back...my daughters think I should at least do the donkey and faider games.

Not a bad idea. I stopped going out to games in 2005. It wasn't a planned thing at first, but now, there's no way I'd pay to see them.

They came within 3 hours of my home 3 times last year and I passed each time.

OnTheWarpath15
03-04-2010, 06:09 PM
Not a bad idea. I stopped going out to games in 2005. It wasn't a planned thing at first, but now, there's no way I'd pay to see them.

They came within 3 hours of my home 3 times last year and I passed each time.

I got rid of my ST's after the abortion of 2007.

I still go to a game a year.

I'm a glutton for punishment.

Hell, I used to have ST's AND travelled once-twice a year to see them.

Fuck that. It's going to take a couple of miracle drafts and some kick ass signings to even consider that kind of financial commitment again.

stevieray
03-04-2010, 06:10 PM
Not a bad idea. I stopped going out to games in 2005. It wasn't a planned thing at first, but now, there's no way I'd pay to see them.

They came within 3 hours of my home 3 times last year and I passed each time.
understandable..I never paid over 20 bones for a ticket this last season

DeezNutz
03-04-2010, 06:12 PM
they show some potential..I might come back...

Someone just wants some TV time...;)

Mr. Flopnuts
03-04-2010, 06:13 PM
Ya know, I figured it was a combination of things including the shitty product on the field and this new regime.

Good for you Stevie. I agree that you should do it up for the rivals. Don't let these guys take that from you.

stevieray
03-04-2010, 06:15 PM
Someone just wants some TV time...;)
you know it's funny....every time i ever made it on TV..I had no clue it was happening.

I know so many people at Arrowhead, i'm notorious for never being in my seat..I'm always on the move, saying hey, etc...

DeezNutz
03-04-2010, 06:16 PM
you know it's funny....every time i ever made it on TV..I had no clue it was happening.

I know so many people at Arrowhead, i'm notorious for never being in my seat..I'm always on the move, saying hey, etc...

That's cool.

And you guys used the Superfan thing for charity work, right? I respect that.

OnTheWarpath15
03-04-2010, 06:16 PM
you know it's funny....every time i ever made it on TV..I had no clue it was happening.

I know so many people at Arrowhead, i'm notorious for never being in my seat..I'm always on the move, saying hey, etc...

I can vouch for this.

Every time I've went to his seat to say hi, he's not there.

Literally. Every time.

stevieray
03-04-2010, 06:16 PM
Ya know, I figured it was a combination of things including the shitty product on the field and this new regime.

Good for you Stevie. I agree that you should do it up for the rivals. Don't let these guys take that from you.

Mitch Holthus does not want me to retire at all..kind of took me by suprise...

stevieray
03-04-2010, 06:17 PM
I can vouch for this.

Every time I've went to his seat to say hi, he's not there.

Literally. Every time.

:D

stevieray
03-04-2010, 06:18 PM
That's cool.

And you guys used the Superfan thing for charity work, right? I respect that.
that part i'll still do when I can.

DeezNutz
03-04-2010, 06:20 PM
that part i'll still do when I can.

Well done, dude. Prop thingies for this.

Messier
03-04-2010, 06:22 PM
I have no idea why a fanbase would even follow a team they KNOW is shitty.

I guess it's part of being a fan. I don't stop being a fan when the team is bad.

Sure-Oz
03-04-2010, 06:45 PM
Vrabel LOL

Ebolapox
03-04-2010, 06:51 PM
eh, why?

Sweet Daddy Hate
03-04-2010, 07:30 PM
Well, that's strike 1 this offseason.

This is a complete and utter joke.

Yep. New year, new season:

STRIKE ONE YOU DUMB MOTHERFUCKER.

Sweet Daddy Hate
03-04-2010, 07:32 PM
Because I'm a glutten for punishment.

I didn't know that was the reason. Kudos to you for making a stand against the horrid product.

He's got some fucking balls, doesn't he?

Elvi; piss on you.

milkman
03-04-2010, 09:52 PM
I just can't contain my enthusiasm!

OnTheWarpath15
03-04-2010, 09:53 PM
I just can't contain my enthusiasm!

LMAO

cdcox
03-04-2010, 10:15 PM
Okay, let me just play devil's advocate here.....

Vrabel is a good leader and a good locker room influence. He also knows the coordinator and should help with the transition. I kind of expected the Chiefs to draft a OLB, rather than sign a free agent. This means that Vrabel can mentor him.

Your post makes good sense.

A year ago.

ChiefsCountry
03-04-2010, 10:26 PM
Fuck Vrabel
Fuck Cassel
Fuck Pioli for making that abortion of trade that fucked the franchise even more.
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Rain Man
03-04-2010, 10:33 PM
I don't quite understand why people don't want us signing players. I want to sign everybody - all six billion people on earth - and then pick the best guys in training camp to be the final 53. If Vrabel can beat out the other linebackers on the training camp roster, more power to him. If he can't, good luck to him.

DumbHillbillies
03-04-2010, 11:33 PM
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e57/Thereaper16/2vjso51jpg.gif

ROFL. I can't believe this thread went on this long. We all saw this coming.

LiL stumppy
03-05-2010, 12:07 AM
Good guy in the locker room. Teach some younger plays. Doesn't bother me.

KCrockaholic
03-05-2010, 12:13 AM
Good guy in the locker room. Teach some younger plays. Doesn't bother me.

This. People shouldn't act like this is a big deal. It's not. There is nothing wrong with this extension.

FAX
03-05-2010, 12:18 AM
I don't quite understand why people don't want us signing players. I want to sign everybody - all six billion people on earth - and then pick the best guys in training camp to be the final 53. If Vrabel can beat out the other linebackers on the training camp roster, more power to him. If he can't, good luck to him.

Exactly so, Mr. Rain Man.

The mere fact that we might sign a guy means very little at this stage. If, say, Vrabel stinks it up in camp or practice and some other crazy linebacker dude performs measurably better, do people honestly believe that Haley will start Vrabel and leave the better player on the sideline?

Vrabel's advantage is that he knows his role and is consistent. His coaches seem to like him because he doesn't surprise you. Apparently, game after game, play after play, you know what you're getting. All another, younger guy has to do is demonstrate that same ability and it's bench meet Vrabel, Vrabel meet bench.

FAX

DaneMcCloud
03-05-2010, 12:24 AM
This. People shouldn't act like this is a big deal. It's not. There is nothing wrong with this extension.

EVERYTHING is wrong with this extension.

If you can't see that, then well, I'm speechless.

salame
03-05-2010, 03:53 AM
he's really cute though guys

BossChief
03-05-2010, 04:00 AM
dont ask dont tell dont care

dirk digler
03-05-2010, 07:18 AM
Chiefs have also tendered both Croyle and Mays at the 2nd round level.

ModSocks
03-05-2010, 03:45 PM
And here it is:

The Chiefs' one-year deal with OLB Mike Vrabel includes a $1.425 million roster bonus.
The date the bonus is due is unknown. Vrabel should safely make the club if it's a per-game roster bonus, but if it's a lump sump payment in August or July he may not be guaranteed to be among Kansas City's final 53. Vrabel's total deal is for $3.025 million. His salary will be $1.6 million.

Per National Football Post

KCrockaholic
03-05-2010, 03:47 PM
And here it is:

The Chiefs' one-year deal with OLB Mike Vrabel includes a $1.425 million roster bonus.
The date the bonus is due is unknown. Vrabel should safely make the club if it's a per-game roster bonus, but if it's a lump sump payment in August or July he may not be guaranteed to be among Kansas City's final 53. Vrabel's total deal is for $3.025 million. His salary will be $1.6 million.

Per National Football Post

Nothing wrong with that IMO.

DaneMcCloud
03-05-2010, 04:06 PM
Nothing wrong with that IMO.

Except the fact that this coaching staff values age over youth, which makes it likely that someone younger and more talented will be sitting on the bench until Vrabel is injured or unable to play.

Signing Vrabel does nothing to move this club forward, nor does it make it more talented.

DBOSHO
03-05-2010, 05:47 PM
Id like to see sOme more of studebaker

milkman
03-05-2010, 09:43 PM
Exactly so, Mr. Rain Man.

The mere fact that we might sign a guy means very little at this stage. If, say, Vrabel stinks it up in camp or practice and some other crazy linebacker dude performs measurably better, do people honestly believe that Haley will start Vrabel and leave the better player on the sideline?

Vrabel's advantage is that he knows his role and is consistent. His coaches seem to like him because he doesn't surprise you. Apparently, game after game, play after play, you know what you're getting. All another, younger guy has to do is demonstrate that same ability and it's bench meet Vrabel, Vrabel meet bench.

FAX

Did you see Mike Goff play last year?

Did you see how much line play improved when he went out with an injury, only to come back and suck the line play down into the toilet with him again until he was lost to injury for the season?

I'm not convinced that the best guys play.

Haley seems to have a few sacred cows.

Sweet Daddy Hate
03-06-2010, 06:07 PM
I just can't contain my enthusiasm!

LMAO:LOL:

Id like to see sOme more of studebaker

This. But worry not; the call to Tanya Harding has been made.:fire:

Rausch
03-06-2010, 06:12 PM
Nothing wrong with that IMO.

It's not like the cap hit of cutting him later would cripple the team...:rolleyes:

BossChief
03-06-2010, 06:30 PM
Im ok with him being signed to that deal.

It means Studabaker wont take over till he is ready and he gets another year to learn the position the way they want it played.

<---not overreacting.

milkman
03-06-2010, 06:36 PM
The fact is, Studebaker wasn't all that good.

He made a couple of plays where he was just in the right place at the right time.

But he was still better than a used up Vrabel.

Sweet Daddy Hate
03-06-2010, 06:38 PM
Im ok with him being signed to that deal.

It means Studabaker wont take over till he is ready and he gets another year to learn the position the way they want it played.

<---not overreacting.

Studebaker looked pretty goddamned ready to me.

Marcellus
03-06-2010, 06:39 PM
EVERYTHING is wrong with this extension.

If you can't see that, then well, I'm speechless.

Promise?:p

Dylan
03-07-2010, 01:12 AM
Per Looney on Twitter

LMAO

this thread is so funny!

HemiEd
03-07-2010, 08:55 AM
the Chiefs never cease to amaze me in their decisions.

It makes it easier not to care.

Stinger
03-07-2010, 09:30 AM
He made a couple of plays where he was just in the right place at the right time.

.

Isn't that the whole idea of playing linebacker in the 3-4, being in the right place at the right time? He recognized the coverage/running lane and filled the gap...... Good things don't usually happen when you are out of position.

milkman
03-07-2010, 09:43 AM
Isn't that the whole idea of playing linebacker in the 3-4, being in the right place at the right time? He recognized the coverage/running lane and filled the gap...... Good things don't usually happen when you are out of position.

Perhaps I should have said that he had plays handed to him, or more accurately, thrown his way.

He didn't make plays, he got a couple of gift interceptions on a poorly thrown ball, and a ball that was redirected when the QB's arm was hit as he released.

Had the passes been on the mark, then much like Vrabel through most of the season, Studebaker would have been nothing more than a spectator.

The point is that he really did nothing to establish himself as some up and comer that was head and shoulders above any of the rest of the scrubs that we lined up out there.

boogblaster
03-07-2010, 09:49 AM
Vrabel is like a coach on the field .. he's needed for at least this next season to help the coaches ...

FAX
03-07-2010, 09:52 AM
If Josh were to write Chiefs Fight Songs, they would be Looney tunes.

FAX

milkman
03-07-2010, 09:56 AM
If Josh were to write Chiefs Fight Songs, they would be Looney tunes.

FAX

LMAO

That's perfect for this team.

Bowser
03-07-2010, 12:49 PM
I'm good with this decision ONLY if they move Vrabel inside. I'm just a guy watching on Sunday and can clearly see that he doesn't have the range to play outside in a 3-4 anymore. If they keep him outside as a starter, it will speak volumes about this coaching staff.

DJ's left nut
04-24-2010, 04:56 PM
So, how 'bout that front office making moves to make Vrabel expendable?

Where are all those folks that assured me that Vrabel was just brought on board to provide veteran leadership to the group of young LBs we were going to bring in?

Nope - Broke Dick is our starting OLB next season.

Because Scott Pioli is a fucking retard.

L.A. Chieffan
04-24-2010, 05:00 PM
well, he got some competition at TE.

Hammock Parties
04-24-2010, 05:02 PM
http://scavenging.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/fire.jpg

+

http://www.chiefsgab.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/scott-pioli.jpg

+

http://www.bob17.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/dotcom.jpg

:clap::clap::clap::clap:

'Hamas' Jenkins
04-24-2010, 05:07 PM
The funny thing is, I'm not even mad. I'm animated, but not mad. I am honestly and sincerely impressed that someone so highly regarded at his job could be this fucking bad at it.

I'm officially renaming it the Pioli Principle.


This.

Hammock Parties
04-24-2010, 05:08 PM
"highly regarded"

NFL front officer awards = corporate politics

At least they let the fans vote for the Pro Bowl.

'Hamas' Jenkins
04-24-2010, 05:09 PM
Pioli is an idiot piece of shit and has proven it every time he's made a personnel decision. As Whitlock (yes, your Antichrist) said, "If Pioli starts next season with Romeo Crennel and Charlie Weis as coordinators, it will be obvious that he doesn't have one original idea".

This guy is a fucking clown.

The Right "53", my ass.

Bring in a broke dick LB who sues the team after his worthless as is cut. That's a great example.

Re-sign another broke dick LB who pouts all last offseason, produces for shit, and loses his composure when getting his taint handed to him.

I can't believe we're paying this fucking retard 5 million dollars a year when you could get the same performance from a janitor making 9 bucks an hour in the offices of Foxborough and Miami.

Dude just sifts through the used stools of Belichick and Parcells. Fuck him. Hire a guy from Waste Management.

And this.

Sweet Daddy Hate
04-24-2010, 05:21 PM
This.

And this.

LMAO

Hammock Parties
04-24-2010, 05:22 PM
At least we now know that we can't blame the 2009 draft on Pioli not having his scouts or being unprepared.

We can blame it on him being a maroon.

Sweet Daddy Hate
04-24-2010, 05:35 PM
At least we now know that we can't blame the 2009 draft on Pioli not having his scouts or being unprepared.

We can blame it on him being a maroon.

Wonk-wonk-wonk-waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa....:facepalm:

DJ's left nut
04-25-2010, 02:45 PM
It's okay, everyone. Rick Gosselin said we got an A+ so it's all good!!

fuck. fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck.

Why oh why didn't we hire Doug Whaley? And hindsight folks can suck my ass because I was in favor of Whaley over Pioli from the start and have the posts to prove it.

The Steelers organization builds winners with different coaches and different QBs because they do it right.

The Patriots have Bill Belichick, Tom Brady and a bunch of sorry motherfuckers that have made millions off their efforts.

Iowanian
04-25-2010, 03:35 PM
It's sweet watching Hamas-Matrix gnash his teeth and throw such a baby fit. It's like Pioli stuffed 30lbs of dogshit into his Mazda's air vent.

Sweet Daddy Hate
04-28-2010, 02:05 PM
It's okay, everyone. Rick Gosselin said we got an A+ so it's all good!!

fuck. fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck.

Why oh why didn't we hire Doug Whaley? And hindsight folks can suck my ass because I was in favor of Whaley over Pioli from the start and have the posts to prove it.

The Steelers organization builds winners with different coaches and different QBs because they do it right.

The Patriots have Bill Belichick, Tom Brady and a bunch of sorry motherfuckers that have made millions off their efforts.

QFT.

Sweet Daddy Hate
04-28-2010, 02:06 PM
It's sweet watching Hamas-Matrix gnash his teeth and throw such a baby fit. It's like Pioli stuffed 30lbs of dogshit into his Mazda's air vent.

This post is just chock full of Jesus. :clap:

DaneMcCloud
04-28-2010, 02:11 PM
It's okay, everyone. Rick Gosselin said we got an A+ so it's all good!!

fuck. fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck.

Why oh why didn't we hire Doug Whaley? And hindsight folks can suck my ass because I was in favor of Whaley over Pioli from the start and have the posts to prove it.

The Steelers organization builds winners with different coaches and different QBs because they do it right.

The Patriots have Bill Belichick, Tom Brady and a bunch of sorry motherfuckers that have made millions off their efforts.

The Steelers whiffed on QB's for two decades.

The Steelers have whiffed on offensive lineman this entire decade.

The Steelers have whiffed on cornerbacks for a decade.

The Steelers have whiffed on wide receivers for the better part of two decades.

While they've won a couple of Super Bowls in the past decade, their draft record is hardly spotless.

The Bad Guy
04-28-2010, 02:17 PM
The Steelers whiffed on QB's for two decades.

The Steelers have whiffed on offensive lineman this entire decade.

The Steelers have whiffed on cornerbacks for a decade.

The Steelers have whiffed on wide receivers for the better part of two decades.

While they've won a couple of Super Bowls in the past decade, their draft record is hardly spotless.

Their talent is coached up big time. That's the benefit of having an all-world coordinator like LeBeau. He masks a ton of the draft mistakes the Steelers have made.

OnTheWarpath15
04-28-2010, 02:19 PM
Dammit, ROR.

Did you really have to bump this thread?

I've been trying to block the thought of Vrabel being a starting OLB on this team - again - from my mind.

Sweet Daddy Hate
04-28-2010, 02:30 PM
Dammit, ROR.

Did you really have to bump this thread?

I've been trying to block the thought of Vrabel being a starting OLB on this team - again - from my mind.

Worry not; I've already texted Stuude with the following advice:

http://www.pollsb.com/photos/o/73414-sweep_leg_karate_kid.jpg

:fire:

DJ's left nut
09-07-2010, 12:12 PM
Okay, let me just play devil's advocate here.....

Vrabel is a good leader and a good locker room influence. He also knows the coordinator and should help with the transition. I kind of expected the Chiefs to draft a OLB, rather than sign a free agent. This means that Vrabel can mentor him.

I'm sure its not a guaranteed deal. No big deal he helps teach the draft picks all summer gets cut in the last cutdowns from training camp no biggie. Guy knows what he's doing just no gas left. Smart move for no money. Now if they announce he'll be starting next year then I'll be scared.

i guess I'm 50/50 on the idea of keeping a guy around for the purpose of mentoring etc.
assuming, of course, they address the LB position at a point in the draft where the draftee is expected to play on defense/contribute and not be simply a ST body.

I'll lose it if the keep him, and don't address LB until round 4-5 etc.

But does this mean we still can't cut him later. ?

This place cracks me up. Holy shit they resigned Vrabel. He is already in the starting line up as we speak.

The state of this ****ing place.

THIS

Good guy in the locker room. Teach some younger plays. Doesn't bother me.

This. People shouldn't act like this is a big deal. It's not. There is nothing wrong with this extension.

Im ok with him being signed to that deal.

It means Studabaker wont take over till he is ready and he gets another year to learn the position the way they want it played.

<---not overreacting.

LMAO

this thread is so funny!


Hey fellas - anyone wanna explain how this signing was okay now that Vrabel's being listed as the starting LOLB over a guy that is younger and better than he is?

This signing was MFing stupid from the start. Shame on anyone that hasn't paid enough attention to this front office to know exactly how it was going to turn out. Of course Vrabel is our starting 'backer, he's part of the right 53.

KCrockaholic
09-07-2010, 12:20 PM
Hey fellas - anyone wanna explain how this signing was okay now that Vrabel's being listed as the starting LOLB over a guy that is younger and better than he is?

This signing was MFing stupid from the start. Shame on anyone that hasn't paid enough attention to this front office to know exactly how it was going to turn out. Of course Vrabel is our starting 'backer, he's part of the right 53.

I still don't have a problem with it. Studebaker will get his playing time. Vrabel is the defensive leader. It's hard to be the leader of a team when you're sitting on the bench. It's not like Vrabel is total ass. He's good in run support, and below average rushing the passer. But I'm not going to cry because Studebaker isn't the technical "starter". He'll get his playing time just like Jamaal Charles will get his playing time with Thomas Jones.

DJ's left nut
09-07-2010, 12:27 PM
I still don't have a problem with it. Studebaker will get his playing time. Vrabel is the defensive leader. It's hard to be the leader of a team when you're sitting on the bench. It's not like Vrabel is total ass. He's good in run support, and below average rushing the passer. But I'm not going to cry because Studebaker isn't the technical "starter". He'll get his playing time just like Jamaal Charles will get his playing time with Thomas Jones.

No, it is like Vrabel is a total ass. Did you watch him play last year? He was as bad as Mike Brown, but it's less obvious for a backer than the SS when you get torched.

The guy sucks as badly in run support as he does as a pass rusher. It's slightly less embarrassing for him because he's not responsible for runs up the middle, which is where teams tend to run on us, but if he were ever attacked, he'd fold.

The man cannot move. That doesn't make you a run stopper, it makes you capable of falling on top of someone that's already on their way down.

Comparing a RB rotation with the starting LOLB position is pretty laughable. If Studebaker gets 60% of the healthy snaps for the Chiefs at LOLB, I'll consider you prescient. As it is, I'm just going to continue considering you a ballwasher.

KCrockaholic
09-07-2010, 12:33 PM
No, it is like Vrabel is a total ass. Did you watch him play last year? He was as bad as Mike Brown, but it's less obvious for a backer than the SS when you get torched.

The guy sucks as badly in run support as he does as a pass rusher. It's slightly less embarrassing for him because he's not responsible for runs up the middle, which is where teams tend to run on us, but if he were ever attacked, he'd fold.

The man cannot move. That doesn't make you a run stopper, it makes you capable of falling on top of someone that's already on their way down.

Comparing a RB rotation with the starting LOLB position is pretty laughable. If Studebaker gets 60% of the healthy snaps for the Chiefs at LOLB, I'll consider you prescient. As it is, I'm just going to continue considering you a ballwasher.

I'm just not going to overreact about a signing that is going to keep him here for 1 more season. Studebaker will be the full time starter in 2011. I'm not bothered by anything that has to do with Vrabel partially because I already expected it. I'm willing to bet that Andy gets his fair share of playing time.

Hootie
09-07-2010, 12:55 PM
Vrabel had a solid preseason...

and Studebaker will get a lot of time in passing downs.

Christ almighty...

can we play one game before Armageddon?

OnTheWarpath15
09-07-2010, 12:59 PM
I heard Mike Tomlin make a great point earlier this morning on Sirius.

He was asked about the development of Dennis Dixon and being concerned about his lack of experience.

Tomlin basically said that you don't get experience sitting on the bench. You get it playing in real games, at full speed.

It's ridiculous for Vrabel to be starting over a guy that needs that experience. All it does is put Studebaker another year behind, IMO. This team isn't a threat this year. Get your young players on the fucking field and get them the experience they need to grow as players, and hope that it makes them quality guys in 2011 when hopefully, you'll need them for a playoff push.

Vrabel starting doesn't help this team now, or in the future, and it's embarrassing that he's starting.

milkman
09-07-2010, 01:09 PM
This fan base has become so accustomed to mediocrity, we not only accept, we find ways to justify it.

Hootie
09-07-2010, 01:13 PM
If our fan base had its way...

you'd start 22 rookies every year

OMG

So Vrabel will get snaps on running downs...

and Christ...

lets lose some games before we already give up on the season

you drafturbators are just full fledged morons...

that's all it is

you overvalue the draft, and you overvalue young players

both important...

but if you had it your way we'd trade everyone every year for 25 picks

dumb
dumb
dumb

Studebaker will excel on passing downs...

DeMorrio will get snaps...

we're going to have a lot of LB's who are getting a good amount of playing time...

For god's sake...

Wait until after Monday night to start freaking bitching...

you guys are fucking crybaby bitches...

PERIOD.

DeezNutz
09-07-2010, 01:14 PM
Why
are
we
writing
in
verse?

KCrockaholic
09-07-2010, 01:15 PM
Vrabel had a solid preseason...

and Studebaker will get a lot of time in passing downs.

Christ almighty...

can we play one game before Armageddon?

That's kinda how I feel. If I didn't think Studebaker would get a lot of snaps I wouldn't be happy. But I'm not going to throw a fit when a game hasn't even been played yet.

KCrockaholic
09-07-2010, 01:16 PM
Shit....Now this thread just turned into 500 post. Thanks Meat Dragon.

Hootie
09-07-2010, 01:16 PM
it cracks me up

everyone EVERYONE sees the ship being righted in KC

everyone

they all see the progress the new regime is bringing in

they all like the direction of the roster

Vegas is betting with the Chiefs...enticing people to put their money on San Diego

yet all we're going to do on this fan board is bitch and moan and cry...

GIVE IT AN ACTUAL GAME BEFORE YOU START BEING FUCKING CRYBABY PUSSIES

hey OTWP
hey milkman
hey hamas
hey mecca
hey dane

SCOTT PIOLI IS A BETTER TALENT EVALUATOR THAN YOU IDIOTS WILL EVER BE.

Hamas took Clausen #1 overall, and Bruce Campbell in the 1st round in his mock draft...

stop pretending like you guys know anything more than anyone else...

Hootie
09-07-2010, 01:17 PM
it cracks me up

everyone EVERYONE sees the ship being righted in KC

everyone

they all see the progress the new regime is bringing in

they all like the direction of the roster

Vegas is betting with the Chiefs...enticing people to put their money on San Diego

yet all we're going to do on this fan board is bitch and moan and cry...

GIVE IT AN ACTUAL GAME BEFORE YOU START BEING FUCKING CRYBABY PUSSIES

hey OTWP
hey milkman
hey hamas
hey mecca
hey dane

SCOTT PIOLI IS A BETTER TALENT EVALUATOR THAN YOU IDIOTS WILL EVER BE.

Hamas took Clausen #1 overall, and Bruce Campbell in the 1st round in his mock draft...

stop pretending like you guys know anything more than anyone else...

Hootie
09-07-2010, 01:18 PM
Shit....Now this thread just turned into 500 post. Thanks Meat Dragon.

well those morons turn every thread into the same thing so I might as well do my part as well

KCrockaholic
09-07-2010, 01:18 PM
Fuck. Now it's gonna be 1,000...

Epic thread from the past.

KCrockaholic
09-07-2010, 01:19 PM
well those morons turn every thread into the same thing so I might as well do my part as well

I know, I know, but still. This is about to turn into a bitchfest.

milkman
09-07-2010, 01:19 PM
Why
are
we
writing
in
verse?

Base fan backwards a we're because.

Oh wait.

You mean't in verse.

Not inverse.

Hammock Parties
09-07-2010, 01:20 PM
it cracks me up

everyone EVERYONE sees the ship being righted in KC

everyone

they all see the progress the new regime is bringing in

they all like the direction of the roster

Vegas is betting with the Chiefs...enticing people to put their money on San Diego

yet all we're going to do on this fan board is bitch and moan and cry...

GIVE IT AN ACTUAL GAME BEFORE YOU START BEING FUCKING CRYBABY PUSSIES

hey OTWP
hey milkman
hey hamas
hey mecca
hey dane

SCOTT PIOLI IS A BETTER TALENT EVALUATOR THAN YOU IDIOTS WILL EVER BE.

Hamas took Clausen #1 overall, and Bruce Campbell in the 1st round in his mock draft...

stop pretending like you guys know anything more than anyone else...

This signals the beginning of a new football season.

GO CHIEFS!

KCrockaholic
09-07-2010, 01:21 PM
:popcorn:

I'm ready.

milkman
09-07-2010, 01:21 PM
Damn.

I thought Hootie liked me.

He even said I'm not a drafturbator.

I'm so hurt now.

Hootie
09-07-2010, 01:23 PM
Damn.

I thought Hootie liked me.

He even said I'm not a drafturbator.

I'm so hurt now.

I guess at least you can be objective.

OnTheWarpath15
09-07-2010, 01:23 PM
I know, I know, but still. This is about to turn into a bitchfest.

Nope. I'm not going to bother with him.

Bottom line?

Some of you are content as long as Studebaker gets some snaps.

My question is, why not all (or at least a significant majority) of snaps?

Would you guys be happy if Thomas Jones was a broke-dick has been, and was stealing carries from Charles?

Nope.

The best players should play, and if there's two players who are even close in talent level, the younger guy should be getting the experience.

No sense in putting off until tomorrow what you can do today.