***Official 2010 NCAA Tournament Bracket Thread***

[Stewie]

It's time to start looking at who's in and who's out... who is seeded where and where teams will play.

Houston is in by winning their tournament against #25 UTEP. That will eliminate a bubble team assuming UTEP will get an at-large bid.

How do you see the seedings working out? Which bubble team do you think deserves to be in, or doesn't deserve mention?

It's wide open now, I just want to know what CP b-ball fans think.

[|Zach|]

What time is the selection show?

[Stewie]

What time is the selection show?

It's normally at 5pm CST on Sunday, I think.

[Stewie]

Illinois and Ohio State are going into overtime. That game will change the top of the bracket if Illinois wins.

[chiefsfan987]

wow, Illinois is really stupid. How on earth can you not get a shot off two times in a row at the end of regulation AND in overtime with plenty of time to work your offense?

[Pablo]

Damn, just got in. This OSU/Illinois game is pretty entertaining.

[BWillie]

Illinois is not deserving of a bid unless they beat OSU IMO. If you have 14 losses, you should be barred from the tournament. The only good team they have beat is Wisconsin. Big Deal. But if Joe "I cheat at bracketology by getting inside info from the committee just before final seeding" Lunardi has them in, I guess they must be.

[Mr. Laz]

Purdue is getting dat azz whipped


26 - 4 with 4 minutes left in the 1st half :eek:

[HonestChieffan]

Is Mizzou gonna get in?

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Is Mizzou gonna get in?

Very likely.

[ClevelandBronco]

It's time to start looking at who's in and who's out... who is seeded where and where teams will play.

Houston is in by winning their tournament against #25 UTEP. That will eliminate a bubble team assuming UTEP will get an at-large bid.

How do you see the seedings working out? Which bubble team do you think deserves to be in, or doesn't deserve mention?

It's wide open now, I just want to know what CP b-ball fans think.

Yep. Count on UTEP being in. They've been smoking hot, and I've been loving the run they've been on.

[Stewie]

Purdue was rolled by Minnesota. That bodes well for K-State. I just hope they don't end up in the same region as KU like in '88. It sucked they had to play in the Elite 8 when K-State could have made a final four in another region.

[Buck]

SDSU is in. I am hoping they get an 8 or 9 seed so if they win their first game they get to play a #1 seed. They had a #24 RPI going into today.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs451.ash1/24847_1306877883830_1587035261_711101_4182901_n.jpg

[Old Dog]

Purdue was rolled by Minnesota. That bodes well for K-State. I just hope they don't end up in the same region as KU like in '88. It sucked they had to play in the Elite 8 when K-State could have made a final four in another region.

KU and KSU won't be in the same region. Back then there was no conference separation in regard to the top four in each region as there is now.

Based on Principle #3
http://www.ncaa.com/graphics/champpage/Bracket_Prin-Proc_2009-10_07.07.09.pdf

[Mr. Flopnuts]

http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs468.snc3/25669_1208460261899_1540472089_30446852_5155294_n.jpg

[Old Dog]

Here are my predictions:
KU #1 overall + Midwest and gets OKC (Thank You Captain Obvious)
KSU #2 in South (gets OKC) with Syracuse
Baylor #4 in East (New Orleans)
Texas A&M #5 in South (Spokane)
Oklahoma St #7 in East (Providence)
Texas #7 in West (Buffalo)
Missouri #9 in East (Milwaukee) would face Kentucky in second round

Thoughts?

[lightsout04]

Here are my predictions:
KU #1 overall + Midwest and gets OKC (Thank You Captain Obvious)
KSU #2 in South (gets OKC) with Syracuse
Baylor #4 in East (New Orleans)
Texas A&M #5 in South (Spokane)
Oklahoma St #7 in East (Providence)
Texas #7 in West (Buffalo)
Missouri #9 in East (Milwaukee) would face Kentucky in second round

Thoughts?

Doesn't sound bad. I would like to see the Missouri & Kentucky game.

[Stewie]

Here are my predictions:
KU #1 overall + Midwest and gets OKC (Thank You Captain Obvious)
KSU #2 in South (gets OKC) with Syracuse
Baylor #4 in East (New Orleans)
Texas A&M #5 in South (Spokane)
Oklahoma St #7 in East (Providence)
Texas #7 in West (Buffalo)
Missouri #9 in East (Milwaukee) would face Kentucky in second round

Thoughts?

KU will be the overall #1 but won't play the winner of the 64/65 play-in game since OKC is a Thursday/Saturday schedule. The play-in teams always play the Friday/Sunday schedule to give them an extra day. I'm sure it will be misconstrued by lots of people that someone else is the #1 overall team.

[Buck]

Someone tell me how the fuck this makes sense. Lunardi has UNLV as a 7 seed and SDSU as an 11 seed.

UNLV
25-8 (13-5)
RPI: 42
SOS: 111
Last 12: 9-3

Good Wins: RPI 1-25: @New Mexico, BYU x 2, Louisville, SDSU
Bad Losses: RPI 101-200: N-Southern Cal, Utah, @Utah
----------------------------------------------------------

SDSU
25-8 (13-5)
RPI: 24
SOS: 55
Last 12: 10-2

Good Wins: New Mexico x 2, UNLV x 2 (one @ UNLV)
Bad Losses: @Pacific, @Wyoming
--------------------------------------------------

So SDSU just beat UNLV for the second time this season to win the MWC tourney, and they had the same record in the regular season, and had a higher SOS and RPI, yet Lunardi predicts that UNLV will be a 7 seed, while SDSU is an 11 seed. About 3 days ago Lunardi had SDSU as a 10 seed, I don't get it.

[BWillie]

Doesn't sound bad. I would like to see the Missouri & Kentucky game.

I feel dirty, but I would actually root for the Slavers in that game.

[Stewie]

Someone tell me how the fuck this makes sense. Lunardi has UNLV as a 7 seed and SDSU as an 11 seed.

UNLV
25-8 (13-5)
RPI: 42
SOS: 111
Last 12: 9-3

Good Wins: RPI 1-25: @New Mexico, BYU x 2, Louisville, SDSU
Bad Losses: RPI 101-200: N-Southern Cal, Utah, @Utah
----------------------------------------------------------

SDSU
25-8 (13-5)
RPI: 24
SOS: 55
Last 12: 10-2

Good Wins: New Mexico x 2, UNLV x 2 (one @ UNLV)
Bad Losses: @Pacific, @Wyoming
--------------------------------------------------

So SDSU just beat UNLV for the second time this season to win the MWC tourney, and they had the same record in the regular season, and had a higher SOS and RPI, yet Lunardi predicts that UNLV will be a 7 seed, while SDSU is an 11 seed. About 3 days ago Lunardi had SDSU as a 10 seed, I don't get it.

Yeah, that doesn't make sense. All I can say is it's Lunardi. The committee might have other ideas.

[Maggot Brain]

Which bubble team do you think deserves to be in, or doesn't deserve mention?

It's wide open now, I just want to know what CP b-ball fans think.

I'm wondering how deep they will go into the Big 12. Aside from KU, KState and Baylor, A&M, Mizzou and TX should have a shot at the dance.

[Stewie]

I'm wondering how deep they will go into the Big 12. Aside from KU, KState and Baylor, A&M, Mizzou and TX should have a shot at the dance.

Those teams are in. I would have given Okie State a shot until they were blown out by KState in the tourney. I'm sure that didn't help their cause.

[Maggot Brain]

That would be a great showing for the Big 12

[luv]

What time does the selection start?

[Old Dog]

5pm on CBS

[KChiefs1]

I'm hoping Mizzou gets out of the 8/9 games with a 10th seed.
That would make the road to the Sweet Sixteen easier.

[Ceej]

Big 12 will get 7 teams in. I still think Big 12 >> Big East.


I also hope Va Tech doesn't get in again so I can hear Greenburg cry.

[Stewie]

It would be interesting if West Virginia and KState end up in the same region and play at some point. Huggy Bear vs. Frank Martin. The guy that stiffed KSU against his former assistant and all the KSU fans praying like hell that KSU wins by 20.

It sounds like WVU will be the #1 in the West. I could see KSU playing in that region.

[Old Dog]

I think Duke gets the #1 in the West and West Virginia the #2 in the East to keep them closer to home.

[Stewie]

They discussed the Duke vs. WVU scenario and said WVU has a better resume and deserves a #1. We'll see.

[Old Dog]

I'm by no means an expert (something of a rarity on the board, I know) but I figure I can throw a bunch of stuff at the wall to see if any of it sticks too....

1 - Kansas (Midwest)
2 - Kentucky (East)
3 - Syracuse (South)
4 - Duke (West)
5 - Ohio St (West)----West Virginia is dropped to 7 so they can stay in the East
6 - KSU (South)
7 - West Virginia (East)
8 - Georgetown (Midwest)

[Stewie]

I'm by no means an expert (something of a rarity on the board, I know) but I figure I can throw a bunch of stuff at the wall to see if any of it sticks too....

1 - Kansas (Midwest)
2 - Kentucky (East)
3 - Syracuse (South)
4 - Duke (West)
5 - Ohio St (West)----West Virginia is dropped to 7 so they can stay in the East
6 - KSU (South)
7 - West Virginia (East)
8 - Georgetown (Midwest)

I could see this. It looks like Lunardi's bracket. I'm not sure about G'town as a 2 and 5-7 is a total toss up. I'd like to see KSU in the South with Syracuse as the 1. I think KSU has the shooters to beat that zone.

[Old Dog]

Lunardi has West Virginia as the #2 in the West and Georgetown in the #2 in the East.....I don't see that at all. On the true S-curve it should be but that rewards Georgetown for losing last night, not West Virginia for winning.
Of course he gets paid for doing projections, so WTF do I know...

[DJay23]

I could see this. It looks like Lunardi's bracket. I'm not sure about G'town as a 2 and 5-7 is a total toss up. I'd like to see KSU in the South with Syracuse as the 1. I think KSU has the shooters to beat that zone.

I really want to see KSU in Kentucky's bracket. I think they would BEAT UP those kids.

[Pablo]

This UK/MissSt game is intense. Damn fun to watch.

[Stewie]

If WVU gets the #2 in the west their first games are in Buffalo. I guess that's west of Boston. :shrug:

[Old Dog]

I really want to see KSU in Kentucky's bracket. I think they would BEAT UP those kids.

The problem there is that Kentucky is a slam dunk to go East. In trying to keep the top four in each region close to home it makes no real sense to ship K-State East when West Virginia or even Georgetown is a better fit.


KSU could get a shot at Kentucky though on Saturday in the final four just two days prior to KSU-KU IV (OK, now I'm just dreaming)

[Old Dog]

If WVU gets the #2 in the west their first games are in Buffalo. I guess that's west of Boston. :shrug:

The first round pods aren't locked in to a specific region. Regardless of where W Va plays they will likely play the first weekend in Buffalo, though Providence is also a possibility.

[Stewie]

The first round pods aren't locked in to a specific region. Regardless of where W Va plays they will likely play the first weekend in Buffalo, though Providence is also a possibility.

I know. I was making a joke about being in a region that's no where near the first round games.

Everyone with an opinion on TV has an argument for every scenario. I think the problem is that besides the top 3 the rest all have their flaws and it's a guess.

[DJay23]

The problem there is that Kentucky is a slam dunk to go East. In trying to keep the top four in each region close to home it makes no real sense to ship K-State East when West Virginia or even Georgetown is a better fit.


KSU could get a shot at Kentucky though on Saturday in the final four just two days prior to KSU-KU IV (OK, now I'm just dreaming)

It was less a comment on projected brackets, and more a comment on the matchup between the two.

[Old Dog]

Oh, sorry...I didn't catch the joke. I can be slow sometims.
I love the bracket unveiling though. I do one to see how close I can get too, because when Thursday comes my other one will be shot to hell anyway.

[Stewie]

Man, I thought Mississippi State was going to throw a complete wrench in the works. They still might, but UK has the momentum.

[Mr. Laz]

gutless coward refs refuse to not count Kentucky's last shot

[Stewie]

That shot was clearly good.

[Stewie]

Kentucky stays a #1 but that's a huge chink in the armor. Mississippi State might have played themselves in.

[Pablo]

Kentucky stays a #1 but that's a huge chink in the armor. Mississippi State might have played themselves in.They ought to be in.

If they get in the tourney and play like that, then I won't want KU squaring off with them. Dangerous team.

[doomy3]

Lunardi has KU as the #1 overall in the midwest. 2nd round matchup would be against Marquette, with Ohio State as the #2, Villanova as the #3. That's pretty tough #2 and #3.

[WilliamTheIrish]

T-6 minutes + 8 minutes for commercials and 3 minutes of One Shining Moment and 4 minutes of Jim Nantz waxing rhapsodic.

Oh.. T-4 minutes now.

[kstater]

Cats about to get the shaft. Going to get the hardest 2 draw in the history of the tournament.

[DeezNutz]

Cats about to get the shaft. Going to get the hardest 2 draw in the history of the tournament.

You won't be in our region. /KU fan

[Silock]

#1 Overall officially

[banyon]

:KU: ROCK CHALK!

[banyon]

Puke

[kstater]

Duke in Houston

Syracuse losing early killed them.

[dirk digler]

KU, Kentucky, Duke and Syracuse the #1's

[DeezNutz]

Potential FF matchup would be a bitch against Syracuse.

[Silock]

Syracuse got major fucked

[Old Dog]

Duke to #3 is a farce. KSU to the East now with Kentucky?

[Silock]

I would LOVE to see KSU go to the East with Kentucky. I think the Wildcats could definitely beat the Wildcats.

[Bearcat]

Midwest region coming up. :clap:

[DeezNutz]

Duke to #3 is a farce. KSU to the East now with Kentucky?

I think that would be a solid matchup for the Cats, if that were to happen.

[kstater]

I would LOVE to see KSU go to the East with Kentucky. I think the Wildcats could definitely beat the Wildcats.

Out of the 3 1's Cats could face, that's the one I'd least likely want to see.

[Pablo]

I would LOVE to see KSU go to the East with Kentucky. I think the Wildcats could definitely beat the Wildcats.Yep. Most definitely.

[Buck]

Why do they have to drag this shit out? Ugh.

[Mosbonian]

I think that KSU would have trouble with Kentucky....it would be a blowout.

mmaddog
********

[Bearcat]

Why do they have to drag this shit out? Ugh.

Because you're watching it.

[alnorth]

Well, if there's any karma out there, hopefully Duke's bracket will be stacked.

[luv]

Which regions play each other in the semifinal?

[Old Dog]

I think it will be the weakest with Ohio St as the #2

[irishjayhawk]

Duke at #3 overall is a product of the win-late mentality. It also means that had KU lost to KSU last night, Kentucky could have swiped the #1 overall even though KU's resume is vastly, vastly superior as to be not even close.

[Pablo]

I think that KSU would have trouble with Kentucky....it would be a blowout.

mmaddog
********Hardly.

[DeezNutz]

Out of the 3 1's Cats could face, that's the one I'd least likely want to see.

Really? Hmm...completely disagree.

If KSU could slow down Kentucky, which I think they can, the powerful purple would have an excellent chance of winning.

[Old Dog]

Which regions play each other in the semifinal?

Midwest vs West
South vs East

[kstater]

Which regions play each other in the semifinal?

Midwest V West
South V East

[kstater]

Damn, no B in the first weekend for KU.

[banyon]

Bring it Mountain Hawks!

[Silock]

Out of the 3 1's Cats could face, that's the one I'd least likely want to see.

Really? I think Kentucky is the weakest #1 seed out there.

[DeezNutz]

Sweet 16 game could be tough for the Beakers...

[banyon]

don't like Tom Izzo in our set.

[Bearcat]

So, probably MSU in the SS..... blah.

[Silock]

Oh fuck... OSU?

[kstater]

Ohio St the 4th 2? Probably the 3rd but KSU couldn't go to that region.

[luv]

OSU a 7.

[Bearcat]

So, probably MSU in the SS..... blah.

And then OSU.... if KU makes it that far, it could be as ugly as the SIU/UCLA year. :(

[Buck]

UNLV just got an 8 seed and CBS called the the MWC champs, but New Mexico was the reg season champs and SDSU was the tourney champs.

[banyon]

Ohio State's a pretty strong 2. We get jobbed on that. TN as our 6, lovely.

[Bearcat]

And then OSU.... if KU makes it that far, it could be as ugly as the SIU/UCLA year. :(

AND Georgtown.... f***. That possible Georgetown/OSU game would end 40-38.

[Buck]

This is bullshit. UNLV an 8 and SDSU an 11. Fuck that.

[Pablo]

Lawl.

The only two teams to beat KU this year in our bracket. Nice.

[alnorth]

ROFL well, crap.

"Hey guys, who beat Kansas this year?"

*checks record*

"ummm, looks like only Oklahoma State and Tennessee"

"ok, cool. Lets put them both in the Midwest"

[Bearcat]

Remember folks, write down everything Seth Davis says, then do the opposite in your bracket.

[banyon]

Who was the #9, I missed that?

[Old Dog]

SDSU as an 11? I had them at 8...

[LetsSignRussell]

Who was the #9, I missed that?

Northern Iowa

[luv]

Two Big 12 so far.

[kstater]

Two Big 12 so far.

The final number will be 7.

[teedubya]

Well, georgetown, tenn, ohio st, mich st, maryland... Ok st. damn

Both teams that near us this year. This is a tough, tough road
Posted via Mobile Device

[banyon]

Northern Iowa

Thanks.

I'll try to help out your red rep a little. :)

[Pablo]

Well, georgetown, tenn, ohio st, mich st, maryland... Ok st. damn

Both teams that near us this year. This is a tough, tough road
Posted via Mobile DeviceNo shit.

[Silock]

I guess the good news is that such a tough bracket will make it difficult for KU to take any game lightly.

[Mosbonian]

Any of you people who think that KSU could slow down and play with KY need to have a reality check. K-State didn't beat MU in Columbia. lost to IA State at home, and doesn't have anyone in the low post to handle Cousins or Patterson. And quite frankly they have no guard that could handle John Wall.

mmaddog
********

[kstater]

UTEP gets in.

[mikeyis4dcats.]

I'm totally confused...I thought brackets came out at 7EDT/6CDT?

[banyon]

Ha. Vermont smoked Syracuse a few years back with Taylor Coppenrath.

[irishjayhawk]

Well, georgetown, tenn, ohio st, mich st, maryland... Ok st. damn

Both teams that near us this year. This is a tough, tough road
Posted via Mobile Device

And then the CBS guys say "it's favorable for Kansas."

[kstater]

West region.

[Buck]

SDSU as an 11? I had them at 8...

Yeah. All I want is to win 1 game in the tourney, but now we have to face Tennessee.

[luv]

KSU a 2 in the West. Playing in OKC.

[kstater]

FUCK that draw. N. Texas? Fucking going to get killed. Followed up with BYU or Florida? talk about murderers row.

[Pablo]

Mississippi State better get in after their run in the SEC tourney.

[luv]

Three Big 12.

[Dante84]

alright, State..... Pitt in the 16 is toughie, and then 'Cuse in the 8. We got this!

[Old Dog]

I like it, much better than I expected. Either Florida or BYU should be no real issue.

[banyon]

K St. has an easier road than KU. That's f***ed up.

[DJJasonp]

I like it, much better than I expected. Either Florida or BYU should be no real issue.

BYU can shoot lights out (from 3 range at that)....as a KU fan, I'm glad as hell they're not in our region.

[Pablo]

K St. has an easier road than KU. That's f***ed up.Georgetown scares me more than anyone else in our bracket.

[Old Dog]

You realize that most of the teams that you're worried about are in the bottom half of teh bracket and you only have to play one of them, correct?

[Silock]

Uh, BYU is pretty damn good. I'd be scared as hell to play them.

[Pablo]

BYU can shoot lights out (from 3 range at that)....as a KU fan, I'm glad as hell they're not in our region.Yeah, but our 7 is OKState. I'd take BYU easily.

[Silock]

You realize that most of the teams that you're worried about are in the bottom half of teh bracket and you only have to play one of them, correct?

It's called "No chance for an easier path." That's why it's scary.

[luv]

Texas an 8.

[alnorth]

Have fun with that, Kentucky

[Pablo]

The Buccaneers are going to slaughter Kentucky.

[Old Dog]

Cornell as a 12....DAMN, they should have been a 9

[teedubya]

The west looks like a cake walk. Midwest is brutal.
Posted via Mobile Device

[Pablo]

We are the Terriers.

The mighty, mighty Terriers.

[DJJasonp]

west virginia as a #2....ouch. UK has a rough bracket

[Mosbonian]

The Buccaneers are going to slaughter Kentucky.

WOW....you really hate KY don't you?

mmaddog
********

[BillSelfsTrophycase]

Tiggers get a 10

[kstater]

Mizzou 10 in the East

[luv]

MU a 10 and plays Clemson.

[Old Dog]

Mizzou vs West Virginia would be fun to see

[kstater]

Clemson's a decent draw for Mizzou.

[DJJasonp]

is Marquette at a sizzler???

[Stewie]

Mizzou a 10 is too low.

[Pablo]

WOW....you really hate KY don't you?

mmaddog
********It was sarcasm.

I do hate Calipari though. He's as sleazy and underhanded as they come.

[luv]

Five Big 12. Who's left? Baylor and Oklahoma?

[Pablo]

So Kentucky's got the brutal road, and the Midwest sets up favorably for KU?

LMAO. Really.

[irishjayhawk]

The west looks like a cake walk. Midwest is brutal.
Posted via Mobile Device

That's what I thought but the CBS pundits say no. Cake walk for KU, Tough for Kentucky...

[Old Dog]

Mizzou a 10 is too low.

I had them at 9

[banyon]

Texas has the athletes to upset Kentucky if they have their heads screwed on right that day. Of course, it's been a while since they have.

[Pablo]

Five Big 12. Who's left? Baylor and Oklahoma?Baylor and A&M.

OU wasn't good this year.

[LetsSignRussell]

I could see Kentucky falling to Texas 2nd round.

[Stewie]

Five Big 12. Who's left? Baylor and Oklahoma?

Not Oklahoma.

[Old Dog]

Five Big 12. Who's left? Baylor and Oklahoma?

Baylor (3) and A&M (6)

[Pablo]

I could see Kentucky falling to Texas 2nd round.I can't.

Texas hasn't been a good team since Big 12 play started.

[Silock]

I could see Kentucky falling to Texas 2nd round.

I could see it, but I don't expect it.

[teedubya]

Kentucky vs texas could be an epic second round game.
Posted via Mobile Device

[luv]

Baylor and A&M.

OU wasn't good this year.

I didn't think so, but I forgot about aTm.

[Old Dog]

East looks tougher than Midwest IMO but West is weaker than either of them and the South will be weaker still.

[alnorth]

I actually think KU did all right. Kentucky got screwed pretty good, and considering the teams not announced yet, Duke is gonna have a rough bracket too.

Yeah, Syracuse is a little easier than youd expect (till K-State), but in the Midwest, the most frightening teams are both in the bottom half of the bracket so KU only plays one of them. I also think OSU is the weakest of the #2's.

[Bearcat]

Kentucky vs texas could be an epic second round game.
Posted via Mobile Device

It would have been epic in mid-December.

[Buck]

Fuck the selection committee.

Last year they left out SDSU with a #31 RPI and 24+ wins and brought in Arizona with a 60+ RPI and 19 wins.

This year they give SDSU who has a #18 RPI and just beat the #8 team New Mexico (a 3 seed) and UNLV (an 8 seed/ #46 RPI) an 11 seed. This after they won the MWC tourney.

According to everyone SDSU was a lock to be in after beating New Mexico in the semis, but had they not won the tourney, I am not so sure they would have even got in.

I'm so pissed right now.

[kstater]

California an 8? Guess they weren't close to the bubble at all.

[luv]

aTm a five.

[Pablo]

It would have been epic in mid-December.This.

And hot damn, aTm gets the 5 seed.

[kstater]

Good, only 7 Big East teams. Got tired of hearing how they had 7 in and 3 on the bubble.

[Old Dog]

Baylor could make a run in the South

[tk13]

Whew, bad matchup for Purdue... Siena's become a regular in the dance and won't be intimidated. I bet that's the most picked upset of the 1st round.

[luv]

Baylor gets a 3.

[banyon]

Baylor gets a 3??

[kstater]

Baylor gets a protected seed and get to go to NOLa

[Stewie]

Seven out of 12 for the Big XII! Damn good!

[mikeyis4dcats.]

Good, only 7 Big East teams. Got tired of hearing how they had 7 in and 3 on the bubble.

spoke too soon

[Buck]

And they fucked BYU over. They should have been a 5 seed at worse.

[DJJasonp]

And they ****ed BYU over. They should have been a 5 seed at worse.

Mountain West...especially SDSU...doesnt beat anyone outside of their conference.

They have got to start scheduling tougher non-conference games

[banyon]

Mississippi State better get in after their run in the SEC tourney.

Bubble burst.

[luv]

Missouri was in the last 6 teams in.

[Pablo]

Bubble burst.Yep.

[Old Dog]

I thought MSU should have gotten in, but oh well

[Ceej]

I'd much rather KU play UNLV in the second round moreso than UNI.



Also, I really want no part of tOSU. Turner is a man.

[tk13]

Personally I think KU got the worst draw, but we'll see. Got a bunch of tournament tested power teams all the way down the line. Ohio State with Turner, Georgetown, Maryland with Vasquez, and even Michigan State, they are always a brutal out in the tourney. And that doesn't even include Tennessee. Brutal bracket.

[kstater]

Joey Brackets missed a ton of his bubble teams.

[Pablo]

Missouri was in the last 6 teams in.Losing to Nebraska will do that for ya.

[Ceej]

Gah, Selection Sunday is one of the best days in the year.

[luv]

Losing to Nebraska will do that for ya.

Yep. I'm just happy we're in.

[LetsSignRussell]

A lot of people bitching about Kansas's bracket.
Reasons:
Tennessee-KU lost to them
OK State-KU lost to them
Ohio State-Tough #2 seed
Georgetown-Tough #3 seed

Those teams are ALL on the opposite side of the bracket. KU only has the CHANCE to see ONE of those teams in the Elite 8. It's not as bad as you think. They should walk to the elite 8 if they keep playing their ball. It's not going to be easy from there in any bracket.

[KcMizzou]

I think that solidified our 10 ranking....we would have been 8 or 9 at best unless we went to the Final Game of the Big 12 Tourney

mmaddog
********Rather be a 10 than an 8 or 9 anyway.

[DJ's left nut]

All things considered, things could have gone MUCH worse for MU.

Clemson then WVU to advance to the Sweet 16? I can live with that.

We deserved even worse.

[Bearcat]

Is Justin Safford officially done for the year?

[Mr. Flopnuts]

I was pissed seeing UW as an 11 seed but I love our draw. Marquette first, and then New Mexico. We could go sweet 16 this year. Fuh sho.

[Silock]

A lot of people bitching about Kansas's bracket.
Reasons:
Tennessee-KU lost to them
OK State-KU lost to them
Ohio State-Tough #2 seed
Georgetown-Tough #3 seed

Those teams are ALL on the opposite side of the bracket. KU only has the CHANCE to see ONE of those teams in the Elite 8. It's not as bad as you think. They should walk to the elite 8 if they keep playing their ball. It's not going to be easy from there in any bracket.

Again, it's the fact that there's not even a CHANCE to catch a real break.

[Spott]

Well I was hoping Mizzou would be playing in Jacksonville so I could see them here, but Clemson seems like a favorable 1st round opponent. It looks like they could have Duke and Louisville playing here on Sunday.

[|Zach|]

Exciting.

[Reaper16]

All things considered, things could have gone MUCH worse for MU.

Clemson then WVU to advance to the Sweet 16? I can live with that.

We deserved even worse.
West Virginia is going to beat the Tigers. Handily, I'm afraid.

[ChiefsNWildcats]

Pretty excited to see potential matchups between Okie State and Ohio State, and also Texas vs. Kentucky. Anderson vs. Turner and Pittman vs. Cousins should be fun to watch.

[Ceej]

Definitely picking MU to beat Clemson.

[tk13]

A lot of people bitching about Kansas's bracket.
Reasons:
Tennessee-KU lost to them
OK State-KU lost to them
Ohio State-Tough #2 seed
Georgetown-Tough #3 seed

Those teams are ALL on the opposite side of the bracket. KU only has the CHANCE to see ONE of those teams in the Elite 8. It's not as bad as you think. They should walk to the elite 8 if they keep playing their ball. It's not going to be easy from there in any bracket.

I'm not even a KU fan, I think you guys got a brutal bracket. You aren't walking into anything. I think KU is the better team, but Maryland or Michigan State should be a tough, tough matchup.

[|Zach|]

West Virginia is going to beat the Tigers. Handily, I'm afraid.

Because Huggins is great about living up to his NCAA seed.

[alnorth]

A lot of people bitching about Kansas's bracket.
Reasons:
Tennessee-KU lost to them
OK State-KU lost to them
Ohio State-Tough #2 seed
Georgetown-Tough #3 seed

Those teams are ALL on the opposite side of the bracket. KU only has the CHANCE to see ONE of those teams in the Elite 8. It's not as bad as you think. They should walk to the elite 8 if they keep playing their ball. It's not going to be easy from there in any bracket.

Exactly. If 2 or 3 of them were in the top of the bracket I'd be screaming bloody murder, but we only potentially face 1 of them. There are no easy elite 8 matchups, thats always (rightfully) a tough game, so I'm fine with throwing those pitbulls in one ring to tear themselves apart before the bloodied winner emerges against Kansas.

[|Zach|]

Again, it's the fact that there's not even a CHANCE to catch a real break.

Come on...it wouldn't be tough until the Elite 8.

This IS the NCAA tournament.

[Bearcat]

A lot of people bitching about Kansas's bracket.
Reasons:
Tennessee-KU lost to them
OK State-KU lost to them
Ohio State-Tough #2 seed
Georgetown-Tough #3 seed

Those teams are ALL on the opposite side of the bracket. KU only has the CHANCE to see ONE of those teams in the Elite 8. It's not as bad as you think. They should walk to the elite 8 if they keep playing their ball. It's not going to be easy from there in any bracket.

Yeah, MSU is the only one team that really worries me before that point, but of course anything can happen... I'd hate to see them go through two Big 10/Big East teams. Watching those games would be excruciating.

[Pablo]

Because Huggins is great about living up to his NCAA seed.Because WVU is the vastly superior team.

[alnorth]

I think KU is the better team, but Maryland or Michigan State should be a tough, tough matchup.

I'm really not scared of Maryland or Michigan State, because I dont believe either would be a top-3 or 4 team in the big 12. The sweet 16 game is also supposed to be sort of hard, and they only potentially play one of them.

[|Zach|]

Because WVU is the vastly superior team.

Well, maybe Mizzou will pack it in. No reason to hit the court. Huggins choking on his windbreaker would be totally unsurprising.

[Ceej]

Yeah, MSU is the only one team that really worries me before that point, but of course anything can happen... I'd hate to see them go through two Big 10/Big East teams. Watching those games would be excruciating.

Agreed. I'm way more concerned about MSU opposed to Maryland. However, I'm a fan and my opinion, especially regarding the NCAA tournament where anything can happen doesn't mean much.

[LetsSignRussell]

Again, it's the fact that there's not even a CHANCE to catch a real break.

I could see us playing a team like OK State, Tennessee , SD ST, etc in the elite 8 IMO that would be a break

[Pablo]

Yeah, MSU is the only one team that really worries me before that point, but of course anything can happen... I'd hate to see them go through two Big 10/Big East teams. Watching those games would be excruciating.Who doesn't enjoy a good ol' fashioned great defensive match-up(also known as offensive ineptitude); and fouling with 4 minutes left in the game?

[tk13]

WV is going to be a tough one to pick... they look great, but Huggins has had tons of great teams full of talent choke on their own spit.

[alnorth]

If anything, you could argue that Georgetown and Ohio State got a little screwed. They have to play each other AND Kansas. KU has a tune-up against a lesser team (Maryland or MSU) before playing the winner.

[DJ's left nut]

West Virginia is going to beat the Tigers. Handily, I'm afraid.

Probably, but what was the alternative?

We stumbled down the stretch, lost our only true interior scorer and lost to the worst team in the conference in the conference tournament. I'd have listened to arguments that MU shouldn't have been in the tourny at all.

All things considered, I'll take WVU as a 2nd round opponent should we get that far.

[tk13]

I'm really not scared of Maryland or Michigan State, because I dont believe either would be a top-3 or 4 team in the big 12. The sweet 16 game is also supposed to be sort of hard, and they only potentially play one of them.


We'll see, every single year people underestimate Michigan State because they're in the Big 10. They always make it one or two rounds farther than people expect. Plus you'll be giving Izzo or Gary Williams a week to prepare.

[Ceej]

BOOOOOOOO... quit singing Hudson.

[kstater]

Great, the one year KSU is going to win it all some chick will be singing one shining moment.

[|Zach|]

Clemson & Mizzou share 2 common opps: Both lost to Texas A&M, Clemson lost to Illinois by 2, MU beat by 13

[Spott]

Because Huggins is great about living up to his NCAA seed.

I was thinking that Mizzou would have no chance against WVU until you brought that up. I forgot that choker was coaching there.

[CoMoChief]

KU's bracket is bullshit.

Easily the hardest one out of all the 1 seeds.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

I'm rooting for a 10-11 match up for a trip to the Final Four in the East regional. :)

[banyon]

I agree with the people who have pointed out we only have to play 1 of those teams (in the elite eight), but I think Michigan St is the toughest 5 on the board too.

Bilas is saying it's the toughest bracket.

[niblet]

Northern Iowa got screwed with a 9 seed. Top 25 for a good part of the year, 4 losses, MVC regular season and tournament champs, and they get a 9 seed? And they get Kansas if they win... Meanwhile, the mighty Richmond Spiders didn't win anything and had double the losses, and they get a 7?

[alnorth]

KU's bracket is bullshit.

Easily the hardest one out of all the 1 seeds.

The bracket is tough, but KU's road isnt necessarily brutal. Ohio State's road is frightening.

[Lzen]

Look at the bright side, KU fans. The Jayhawks have a chance to get revenge against Tennessee, Oklahoma State, and Michigan State (from last year's Sweet Sixteen).

:thumb:

Also, does KSU getting the #2 in Syracuse's bracket mean that they are the top #2 seed? You know, the S curve or whatever they call it?

[tk13]

The trick with Mizzou's bracket is it has UK and then several other good teams... but you look at guys like Huggins and Alford, they've had very spotty tournament records.

[alnorth]

I agree with the people who have pointed out we only have to play 1 of those teams (in the elite eight), but I think Michigan St is the toughest 5 on the board too.

Bilas is saying it's the toughest bracket.

I would have TA&M ahead of MSU (good luck, duke), so maybe 2nd-toughest

[Bearcat]

Who doesn't enjoy a good ol' fashioned great defensive match-up(also known as offensive ineptitude); and fouling with 4 minutes left in the game?

I was at the KU/KSU game last night and thought, now this is a great defensive matchup. KSU was playing better defense than KU in the first half, and KU really stepped it up a few notches to begin the 2nd half. Yet, KU still scored 70, like they have in all games but 3 this year....

OSU averaged 63.6 points a game in Big 10 play.

F***in' brutal.

[banyon]

The bracket is tough, but KU's road isnt necessarily brutal. Ohio State's road is frightening.

That's certainly true. Ok. St, then Georgetown, then KU? Ugh.

[banyon]

I would have TA&M ahead of MSU (good luck, duke), so maybe 2nd-toughest

Yeah, those are close. I always give Mich St. an edge in my bracket though. Izzo has done things in the tournament with less talented teams than this. That guy is a hell of a tournament game coach.

[|Zach|]

Ya know.

I think Baylor could make the Final Four.

[kstater]

Why are they crying over VT? They didn't play anyone in noncon and the ACC isn't that good this year.

[Silock]

Ya know.

I think Baylor could make the Final Four.

Pipe dream. They have talent, but they're inconsistent, IMO.

[Lzen]

Because it's ESPN and they they the ACC is something. :rolleyes: East Coast bias?

[Ceej]

Why are they crying over VT? They didn't play anyone in noncon and the ACC isn't that good this year.

I wanna hear Greenburg cry again. Good comedy.

[KC_Connection]

Despite being the highest #1, I don't feel that Kansas has the easiest road. Maryland is a very good #4 (much better than Purdue and especially Vanderbilt, who won't make the S16). Ohio St. is also right there with KSU as the best of the #2's.

Syracuse doesn't have a tough game until they play KSU, IMO. They lost nothing by being the 4th number 1.

Kentucky has a very tough schedule. They'll play Texas (who, despite everything I've said about them lacking character, still have a ton of talent), and then either Wisconsin or Temple in the S16, who are both good teams. Marquette is also the best #6 seed in their regional, and West Virginia is their #2 (and they are on as big a roll as Ohio St).

Duke also has an easier schedule as well. The worst #2 and #4 seeds (Villanova and Purdue) are in their region.

Oddly, the top two #1 seeds got the tougher road than the bottom 2.

[DJ's left nut]

The bracket is tough, but KU's road isnt necessarily brutal. Ohio State's road is frightening.

And KU gets to play whoever comes out of that bloodbath.

But don't try to speak logically to CoMo (or most Beakers for that matter).

You guys don't have it any worse than any of the other #1 seeds when you start to look at who you'll actually play.

Simma down.

[|Zach|]

Pipe dream. They have talent, but they're inconsistent, IMO.

Yea, it is a stretch for sure. But I think it could happen.

[kstater]

Excellent point. "This argument for the bubble teams is weak. The bubble was friggen weak."

[KC_Connection]

Ya know.

I think Baylor could make the Final Four.

They can beat anybody, that's for sure. I see them at least getting to the Duke game in the elite 8.

[Reaper16]

Because Huggins is great about living up to his NCAA seed.
I didn't say which Tigers! Mwahahahaha.

[kstater]

Where was Dicky V 4 years ago when KSU got left out under pretty much identical scenario?

[Bearcat]

Look at the bright side, KU fans. The Jayhawks have a chance to get revenge against Tennessee, Oklahoma State, and Michigan State (from last year's Sweet Sixteen).

:thumb:

Also, does KSU getting the #2 in Syracuse's bracket mean that they are the top #2 seed? You know, the S curve or whatever they call it?

I like that angle, especially for MSU... it would be a great redemption game. Also, Suton is gone for MSU, while KU wouldn't rely so much on Collins and Aldrich like last year's game.

Yeah, the last one seed gets shipped, and the top 2 seed gets to play close to home... sort of.

[Buck]

Heres the bracket from the NCAA website.

http://www.ncaa.com/brackets/basketball/men/

[Lzen]

Dick Vitale is an idiot (yeah, I know that's a stretch).

His whole argument that VT deserves to be in over WF is the head to head matchup was won by VT and they have a better conference record. But that is only one argument because the reason the conference record is 1 game better is due to that one head to head game. Dumb ass. Plus, look at their non con RPIs and record vs top 50 and WF is way, way better.

[KC_Connection]

You guys don't have it any worse than any of the other #1 seeds when you start to look at who you'll actually play.

I think KU has it far worse than Syracuse. All of them do.

[KC_Connection]

I like that angle, especially for MSU... it would be a great redemption game. Also, Suton is gone for MSU, while KU wouldn't rely so much on Collins and Aldrich like last year's game.

Yeah, the last one seed gets shipped, and the top 2 seed gets to play close to home... sort of.

Michigan St. wasn't good this year. There's a reason they lost to UNC and Texas (and you know how much I've said those teams sucked), and then faded in the B10 race to the superior Ohio St. Maryland will be in the S16, I suspect.

[tk13]

Excellent point. "This argument for the bubble teams is weak. The bubble was friggen weak."

Which is why expanding the tournament is stupid. None of these bubble teams are going to make it to the Final Four. My thought for the past few years has been they should go back to 64. Eliminate the play-in game and let those teams that really earn it be a part of the "real" tourney. I'd rather see that than bickering over Virginia Tech or a bunch of other teams that backed their way in.

[luv]

Great, the one year KSU is going to win it all some chick will be singing one shining moment.

Don't knock Jennifer Hudson, dude. She's been through a lot, and she's got an amazing voice.

[Lzen]

Which is why expanding the tournament is stupid. None of these bubble teams are going to make it to the Final Four. My thought for the past few years has been they should go back to 64. Eliminate the play-in game and let those teams that really earn it be a part of the "real" tourney. I'd rather see that than bickering over Virginia Tech or a bunch of other teams that backed their way in.

I used to kinda lean toward expanding when it was first mentioned a few years ago. But the more I think about it, the more I think it is a bad idea. And your post makes a lot of sense.

[Buck]

Don't knock Jennifer Hudson, dude. She's been through a lot, and she's got an amazing voice.

Luther Vandross has been through a lot too. Like one time he died.

[Silock]

Luther Vandross has been through a lot too. Like one time he died.

Brutal ROFL

[kepp]

Clemson & Mizzou share 2 common opps: Both lost to Texas A&M, Clemson lost to Illinois by 2, MU beat by 13

And that is officially the first thing I know about Clemson.

[|Zach|]

I didn't say which Tigers! Mwahahahaha.

Oh snap!

http://i40.tinypic.com/2iqlcet.jpg

[KChiefs1]

Missouri was in the last 6 teams in.

I think after Safford's injury they are lucky to have made the field.

[|Zach|]

And that is officially the first thing I know about Clemson.

The press full court like Mizzou...are bigger around the board but seem a little less consistent then Mizzou. Their coach is 0-5 in the tournament.

[KC_Connection]

Clemson and Mizzou is one of the closest matchups in the 1st round. Both are quality teams (at least Mizzou was until their stretch at the end of the season) I haven't decided who to pick there.

[Bearcat]

I think after Safford's injury they are lucky to have made the field.

Is he officially done for the year?

[DJ's left nut]

I'm taking MU in my bracket.

But if my life were on the line, I'd take Clemson.

MU just isn't the same team without Safford. He was a really underrated component for that squad.

[DJ's left nut]

Is he officially done for the year?

From everything I've heard, yes. There's no IR in basketball that would make it truly 'official' but nobody within the program expects him back. It's not even pipe dream stuff, it's just not even being considered.

[Lzen]

Nobody answered this so I will ask again.

...does KSU getting the #2 in Syracuse's bracket mean that they are the top #2 seed? You know, the S curve or whatever they call it?