Pollard signs tender, wants long-term deal

[T-post Tom]

A rare in-season pickup that played like a star, Texans safety Bernard Pollard is readying for his second season with the team after signing his $2.521 contract tender Friday.

"This is definitely where I want to be long-term," Pollard told the team's website. "It's just a matter of getting some things ironed out."

The Texans might be well served to see Pollard back up his performance first. Just ask the Cowboys about paying a safety huge dollars after one surprising breakout season.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/02/pollard-signs-tender-wants-long-term-deal/

[mlyonsd]

I thought Pollard was a great pickup for us. Shows you what I know.

[MMXcalibur]

*whiffs on post*

[DJ's left nut]

I thought Pollard was a great pickup for us. Shows you what I know.

Pollard WAS a great pickup for us.

Shows what Todd Haley and Scott Pioli know.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Go get 'em BP.

(except when you play us, then just play like you did in KC. kay/thx!)

[SAUTO]

Pollard WAS a great pickup for us.

Shows what Todd Haley and Scott Pioli know.

ROFL

[CoMoChief]

ROFL

He somewhat has a point. No way would I ever call him a "great pickup" though. I thought we reached a ton on him in the draft a few years ago. I didn't even know who the fuck he was til I saw a few vids of him on Youtube bodyslamming that RB from Univ of MIN

What can you say about him playing a lot better in HOU than in KC? I doubt all of a sudden he turned some sort of switch on.

Some of it prob actually had to do with coaching. Remember our def coord was fired from his position this past offseason.

Having that said coaches are responsible for drafting players that fit their schemes and do the things that the coaches want to do. Pollard was drafted by Herm, not Pioli.

[ModSocks]

He somewhat has a point.

What can you say about him playing a lot better in HOU than in KC? I doubt all of a sudden he turned some sort of switch on.

Some of it prob actually had to do with coaching. Remember our def coord was fired from his position this past offseason.

Having that said coaches are responsible for drafting players that fit their schemes and do the things that the coaches want to do. Pollard was drafted by Herm, not Pioli.

I'd rather have had pollard back there than Mike Brown, that's for sure.

[DBOSHO]

All day digga

[CoMoChief]

I'd rather have had pollard back there than Mike Brown, that's for sure.

Yeah I would too, Brown is garbage and Pollard was an asset on ST

[DBOSHO]

My biggest beef isnt that he isnt here anymore. Its that we just let him go. We couldve at least got something for him. Like a 5th or something.

[Marcellus]

Pollard WAS a great pickup for us.

Shows what Todd Haley and Scott Pioli know.

Did you actually watch him play in KC? Missed tackles, total whiffs, bad angles.

Not a great pick up. Did he maybe wake up and play better after getting to Houston? Could be but he sucked in KC.

[DaWolf]

I really could care less as long as we field a defense this year that is better than the crap it was when he was here, and the crap it was when he wasn't here...

[SAUTO]

Did you actually watch him play in KC? Missed tackles, total whiffs, bad angles.

Not a great pick up. Did he maybe wake up and play better after getting to Houston? Could be but he sucked in KC.


it could also be said that he knew houston was probably his last chance. what do they say about guys who perform when needed to?

[ModSocks]

You guys are all wrong.

Pollards success is due to Haley Making his ass run laps.

[TRR]

Pollard was put in position to make plays last season. Hell he practically played LB for the Texans.

Pollard didn't fit the scheme in KC and had a chip on his shoulder from Haley and crew, and his attitude got progressively worse.
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[DJ's left nut]

Did you actually watch him play in KC? Missed tackles, total whiffs, bad angles.

Not a great pick up. Did he maybe wake up and play better after getting to Houston? Could be but he sucked in KC.

Did you actually watch or listen to our coaching staff?

Herm said, from the day we brought Pollard on, that he like his headhunter attitude and that's what he wanted to see from him.

Herm encouraged Pollard. He wasn't taught technique and he was certainly not put in a situation to succeed (WTF is a guy like Pollard doing in a cover 2?).

I did, however, see a guy with well above average athletic ability and a hitter's mentality. A guy that was a hard worker and a good teammate.

And we cut his ass to prove a point. It was stupid, it was lazy, it was completely inexcusable. It's just another example of the coaching staff being unable to work outside of it's comfort zone.

We had a 24 year old, 2 year starting SS with the physical potential and aggressive attitude to play at an above average level for the next 5-8 years. I'd give up a late 2nd rounder for that all day, every day.

Pollard was a good pick.

[Marcellus]

Did you actually watch or listen to our coaching staff?

Herm said, from the day we brought Pollard on, that he like his headhunter attitude and that's what he wanted to see from him.

Herm encouraged Pollard. He wasn't taught technique and he was certainly not put in a situation to succeed (WTF is a guy like Pollard doing in a cover 2?).

I did, however, see a guy with well above average athletic ability and a hitter's mentality. A guy that was a hard worker and a good teammate.

And we cut his ass to prove a point. It was stupid, it was lazy, it was completely inexcusable. It's just another example of the coaching staff being unable to work outside of it's comfort zone.

We had a 24 year old, 2 year starting SS with the physical potential and aggressive attitude to play at an above average level for the next 5-8 years. I'd give up a late 2nd rounder for that all day, every day.

Pollard was a good pick.

Sorry but I didn't see that. Go back and look at Go Chiefs gifd up thread.

We cut him because he wouldn't get with the program. That's a him problem not a KC problem.

[T-post Tom]

Pollard was put in position to make plays last season. Hell he practically played LB for the Texans.

Pollard didn't fit the scheme in KC and had a chip on his shoulder from Haley and crew, and his attitude got progressively worse.
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He was a definate liability in pass coverage: he was frequently out of place and he often took bad angles. I will agree that he laid some nasty licks on opponents when he actually made contact.

[TRR]

He was a definate liability in pass coverage: he was frequently out of place and he often took bad angles. I will agree that he laid some nasty licks on opponents when he actually made contact.

Exactly why Houston kept Pollard in the box as much as possible.
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[T-post Tom]

Exactly why Houston kept Pollard in the box as much as possible.
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So let me understand this: the coaches put Pollard in a position to play to his strengths? Are they allowed to do that in the NFL?

[Pasta Little Brioni]

I watched a few Texan games and saw him roasted in coverage and taking poor angles quite often. He's the same player, they just used him differently. Like was said, they played him in the box quite often.

[Ralphy Boy]

Pollard should have never been cut and neither should Turk.

I sure as hell hope that Romeo is better at recognizing what he has in players than Clancy & Krumrie were.

[TEX]

I was just listening to 610 here in Houston and John McClain (The General) said that the TEXANS want him to do it again to prove his play wasn't a fluke before they award him with a long term deal. The team is a bit cautious after what happened to Steve Slaton last season - meaning they have seen first hand how a players game can slip in just one season. He also said they're not too concerned with losing him because there are things they can do to ensure they keep him if they decide to do that. He's betting they will eventually sign him to a long term deal.

[LaChapelle]

Get Cakn' Bone Puffer

[BigMeatballDave]

The hard-on some have for Pollard is hilarious. Sure, he made plays from time to time but he was also boneheaded at times. There is a reason they didn't try to trade him, no one was interested. Now, it probably didn't help him that Gun was his DC for most of his time here, plus pederast.
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[BossChief]

Pollard played free safety for the last five or six games last year. He has a great work ethic and will continue to improve because of it. At worst he was solid depth and a pro bowl special teamer. It was foolish to cut a guy like that, but whatever. Whats done is done. If he wasn't gonna buy into the system, fuck him.

Im glad to see he is in a place that values him and puts him in position to succeed.

I hope they pay him handsomely. He will live up to the contract.

[warpaint*]

They should have kept him but he is not the kind of player that we should lose sleep over losing.

[KCBOSS1]

it could also be said that he knew houston was probably his last chance. what do they say about guys who perform when needed to?

They're smart, they woke up. I think he is a great talent. Wish we could have been the team he woke up on.

[BigMeatballDave]

They're smart, they woke up. I think he is a great talent. Wish we could have been the team he woke up on.great talent? LMAO
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['Hamas' Jenkins]

Funny story:

One of my students is a server at a Cracker Barrel. She said she got tipped 50 bones from an NFL player the other day. Didn't know who he was, but he was huge and was #31 for the Texans.

Well...it was fucking Pollard.

[Hammock Parties]

You guys can bitch and moan about this all you want but the fact is that Pollard had to be cut. You don't go out and miss five tackles in a preseason game after showing you have a history as a poor tackler your entire previous career and survive, especially when you haven't shown the ability to be a top-flight playmaker at all.

Did it wake Pollard up? Obviously. Sucks for the Chiefs. But they did what they had to do. Pollard in no way earned a roster spot last year. Just because he had a halfway decent year with the Texans doesn't guarantee he's going on to stardom, either.

[BigMeatballDave]

This x 1000. People seem to forget how shitty he was here at times. I thought he was gonna be a very good player, and he still may be. Just didn't work out that way for us. Get the fuck over it people, its not like he turned into Ed Reed.You guys can bitch and moan about this all you want but the fact is that Pollard had to be cut. You don't go out and miss five tackles in a preseason game after showing you have a history as a poor tackler your entire previous career and survive, especially when you haven't shown the ability to be a top-flight playmaker at all.

Did it wake Pollard up? Obviously. Sucks for the Chiefs. But they did what they had to do. Pollard in no way earned a roster spot last year. Just because he had a halfway decent year with the Texans doesn't guarantee he's going on to stardom, either.
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['Hamas' Jenkins]

Did you actually watch or listen to our coaching staff?

Herm said, from the day we brought Pollard on, that he like his headhunter attitude and that's what he wanted to see from him.

Herm encouraged Pollard. He wasn't taught technique and he was certainly not put in a situation to succeed (WTF is a guy like Pollard doing in a cover 2?).

I did, however, see a guy with well above average athletic ability and a hitter's mentality. A guy that was a hard worker and a good teammate.

And we cut his ass to prove a point. It was stupid, it was lazy, it was completely inexcusable. It's just another example of the coaching staff being unable to work outside of it's comfort zone.

We had a 24 year old, 2 year starting SS with the physical potential and aggressive attitude to play at an above average level for the next 5-8 years. I'd give up a late 2nd rounder for that all day, every day.

Pollard was a good pick.

:(

[DBOSHO]

Even though id gladly take him over brown anyday, Pollard sucked nuts when he was here. The only person on this board that liked him was ROR. Everyone else called for his head. He gets traded, and all of the sudden he makes a few plays and hes a fucking stud and he was actually really good we just used him wrong. Like playing in the box is going to make up for poor tackling and bad angles.

Its quite funny.

[BigMeatballDave]

Even though id gladly take him over brown anyday, Pollard sucked nuts when he was here. The only person on this board that liked him was ROR. Everyone else called for his head. He gets traded, and all of the sudden he makes a few plays and hes a fucking stud and he was actually really good we just used him wrong. Like playing in the box is going to make up for poor tackling and bad angles.

Its quite funny.
I'd take him over Brown, too. He's really just a shinier turd...

[Ralphy Boy]

You guys can bitch and moan about this all you want but the fact is that Pollard had to be cut. You don't go out and miss five tackles in a preseason game after showing you have a history as a poor tackler your entire previous career and survive, especially when you haven't shown the ability to be a top-flight playmaker at all.

Did it wake Pollard up? Obviously. Sucks for the Chiefs. But they did what they had to do. Pollard in no way earned a roster spot last year. Just because he had a halfway decent year with the Texans doesn't guarantee he's going on to stardom, either.
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[Ralphy Boy]

You guys can bitch and moan about this all you want but the fact is that Pollard had to be cut. You don't go out and miss five tackles in a preseason game after showing you have a history as a poor tackler your entire previous career and survive, especially when you haven't shown the ability to be a top-flight playmaker at all.

Did it wake Pollard up? Obviously. Sucks for the Chiefs. But they did what they had to do. Pollard in no way earned a roster spot last year. Just because he had a halfway decent year with the Texans doesn't guarantee he's going on to stardom, either.

BS bench him for a game or two but u don't need to cut him outright.
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[the Talking Can]

there were literally only 3-4 people on this board who didn't want this guy run out of town....


the flip flopping on pollard is amazing, as even a quick tour of the archives will make clear...


i wanted the guy gone, not going to pretend otherwise now

[Marcellus]

BS bench him for a game or two but u don't need to cut him outright.
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You crack me up. They guy never did shit his entire career in KC, goes to Houston and because he doesn't play like total shit you want to believe letting him go was a huge mistake.

Pollard was not tradeable, for a reason. Pollard is not being given a multi year deal in Houston for a reason. They don't believe in him either.

Was Pollard better than Brown, I guess. I really don't see that much difference.

Either way he will NEVER be the play maker I want at the position. Ever.

Anybody who believes Pollard is a pro bowl talent waiting to bloom is absolutely fooling themselves. He is average at best and I want better than that.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Did you actually watch or listen to our coaching staff?

Herm said, from the day we brought Pollard on, that he like his headhunter attitude and that's what he wanted to see from him.

Herm encouraged Pollard. He wasn't taught technique and he was certainly not put in a situation to succeed (WTF is a guy like Pollard doing in a cover 2?).

I did, however, see a guy with well above average athletic ability and a hitter's mentality. A guy that was a hard worker and a good teammate.

And we cut his ass to prove a point. It was stupid, it was lazy, it was completely inexcusable. It's just another example of the coaching staff being unable to work outside of it's comfort zone.

We had a 24 year old, 2 year starting SS with the physical potential and aggressive attitude to play at an above average level for the next 5-8 years. I'd give up a late 2nd rounder for that all day, every day.

Pollard was a good pick.

All....day....LAWNG, N****'s!!!

So let me understand this: the coaches put Pollard in a position to play to his strengths? Are they allowed to do that in the NFL?

Some teams DO find it quite useful I hear tell.

Funny story:

One of my students is a server at a Cracker Barrel. She said she got tipped 50 bones from an NFL player the other day. Didn't know who he was, but he was huge and was #31 for the Texans.

Well...it was fucking Pollard.

Damn straight it was.

there were literally only 3-4 people on this board who didn't want this guy run out of town....


the flip flopping on pollard is amazing, as even a quick tour of the archives will make clear...


i wanted the guy gone, not going to pretend otherwise now

I stand utterly amazed.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Pollard was put in position to make plays last season. Hell he practically played LB for the Texans.

Pollard didn't fit the scheme in KC and had a chip on his shoulder from Haley and crew, and his attitude got progressively worse.
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Pollard was cut because he called out coach. He didn't like the arrogance that came with the new coaching staff. I knew we would regret cutting him the day it happened.

[ChiefsCountry]

Pioli probably cut him for fucking up Brady. Knowing that fat piece of shit Gm we have.
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[beach tribe]

Did you actually watch him play in KC? Missed tackles, total whiffs, bad angles.

Not a great pick up. Did he maybe wake up and play better after getting to Houston? Could be but he sucked in KC.

Sure did. Looked just like Wesley. He was a liability on any given play.
We should have tried to get something for him, but I'm glad he's gone.

[beach tribe]

there were literally only 3-4 people on this board who didn't want this guy run out of town....


the flip flopping on pollard is amazing, as even a quick tour of the archives will make clear...


i wanted the guy gone, not going to pretend otherwise now

Me too. Contantly out of position, whiffing on tackles constantly, etc, etc.

Was he better than Mike Brown. Yeah, so? When you are rebuilding the way we are, you might as well get rid of the people who aren't going to be on the boat as soon as you can. All they do is slow the process. Pollard was going to have to be replaced anyway. I really don't care that our safety pos. was left with shit last season. It's not like pollard would have been the difference in the outcome of anything anyway. The way he played, he should have shut his fucking mouth. He had not earned the right to say squat.

[SAUTO]

Pioli probably cut him for fucking up Brady. Knowing that fat piece of shit Gm we have.
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wow you must not have seen the seattle game right before he was cut. watch it again and get back to us. the reason should be completely obvious to a great talent evaluator such as yourself
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[BigMeatballDave]

Sure did. Looked just like Wesley. He was a liability on any given play.
We should have tried to get something for him, but I'm glad he's gone.How do you know we didnt try? I'd imagine there were no takers.

[BigMeatballDave]

Pioli probably cut him for fucking up Brady. Knowing that fat piece of shit Gm we have.
Posted via Mobile DeviceI know Pioli made some boneheaded moves, but some of you are gonna look silly if he can actually turn this franchise around. One yr in and the guy is a piece of shit? Really? I've never seen this much hatred for Carl from you. For me, I'm giving him this draft. If he's got a shot at Berry and passes for an OL or Williams at 5, then he's on my shit list.

[beach tribe]

How do you know we didnt try? I'd imagine there were no takers.

You're absolutlely right. I don't know.

[beach tribe]

I know Pioli made some boneheaded moves, but some of you are gonna look silly if he can actually turn this franchise around. One yr in and the guy is a piece of shit? Really? I've never seen this much hatred for Carl from you. For me, I'm giving him this draft. If he's got a shot at Berry and passes for an OL or Williams at 5, then he's on my shit list.

I wonder what all these people are going to say if/when he does turn us into a consistent contender.

[googlegoogle]

Booty dance comes with the contract!

[kcfanXIII]

Funny story:

One of my students is a server at a Cracker Barrel. She said she got tipped 50 bones from an NFL player the other day. Didn't know who he was, but he was huge and was #31 for the Texans.

Well...it was fucking Pollard.

gunther once gave me a 20 and i wasn't even his server. i had set the fire alarm off (it was the first time in 2 years of working in this restaurant it was turned on on this particular door.) well there were only a few tables so i stopped by each one and apologized to them all. i didn't even recognize him till he talked. his server told me he wanted to talk to me, and when i got there he said "you handled that with class. its nice to see a young man carry himself that way," handed me a 20 and i noticed the yellow tinted glasses. i thanked him, and welcomed him back to town. he smiled and nodded. seemed like a good dude.

back on topic, i was disappointed to see pollard let go, but i won't lose sleep over it. i'm happy he's playing well.

[BigMeatballDave]

Well, if the Chiefs really become a complete team, and that means a trip to the SB, I suspect no one will have a problem saying they were wrong about Pioli. Right now, Scott is still a question mark. While I don't hate the guy, I am skeptical. I wonder what all these people are going to say if/when he does turn us into a consistent contender.
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[ChiefsCountry]

I know Pioli made some boneheaded moves, but some of you are gonna look silly if he can actually turn this franchise around. One yr in and the guy is a piece of shit? Really? I've never seen this much hatred for Carl from you. For me, I'm giving him this draft. If he's got a shot at Berry and passes for an OL or Williams at 5, then he's on my shit list.

For one he made moves that would make Carl look like Ozzie Newsome. But if the fat turd wins us a Super Bowl I would gladly eat crow.

[DJ's left nut]

there were literally only 3-4 people on this board who didn't want this guy run out of town....


the flip flopping on pollard is amazing, as even a quick tour of the archives will make clear...


i wanted the guy gone, not going to pretend otherwise now

You're also a fucking idiot, so there's that.

I suppose I'm among the 3 or 4 that knew this guy could play.

December of '08 (end of the Herm era)

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=5320387&postcount=117

September of '09 (After he was cut, but before he signed anywhere and excelled)

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?p=6076969&highlight=Pollard#post6076969


Bernard Pollard could always play SS in this league. Herm was too stupid to utilize him correctly, Haoili was too lazy and insecure to bother coaching him.

Texas saw what he was and how to use him correctly. They coached him up, put him in a position to succeed and saw huge benefits on account of it.

[DJ's left nut]

I wonder what all these people are going to say if/when he does turn us into a consistent contender.

Dunno.

But I know I'll be a shitload more intellectually honest than most of you jokers have been about Pollard.

I'll just say something stupid like "having to hire Weis and Romo woke him up..."

[beach tribe]

Dunno.

But I know I'll be a shitload more intellectually honest than most of you jokers have been about Pollard.

I'll just say something stupid like "having to hire Weis and Romo woke him up..."

I was absolutely sick of watching Pollard F up when he was here. Either way
I wanted that posi. upgraded. If he does well in Texas, I'm glad for him, but a half season of decent play has not erased all the bunings he has recieved in his career. IMO he can be a starter in this league, but I don't trust him.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

I wonder what all these people are going to say if/when he does turn us into a consistent contender.

I won't say anything. I'll do the hokey-pokey with a carrot up my ass while giving Pioli's nutsack a proper washing.

You're also a fucking idiot, so there's that.

I suppose I'm among the 3 or 4 that knew this guy could play.

December of '08 (end of the Herm era)

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=5320387&postcount=117

September of '09 (After he was cut, but before he signed anywhere and excelled)

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?p=6076969&highlight=Pollard#post6076969


Bernard Pollard could always play SS in this league. Herm was too stupid to utilize him correctly, Haoili was too lazy and insecure to bother coaching him.

Texas saw what he was and how to use him correctly. They coached him up, put him in a position to succeed and saw huge benefits on account of it.

Amazing how that works, ain't it?

[SAUTO]

You're also a fucking idiot, so there's that.

I suppose I'm among the 3 or 4 that knew this guy could play.

December of '08 (end of the Herm era)

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=5320387&postcount=117

September of '09 (After he was cut, but before he signed anywhere and excelled)

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?p=6076969&highlight=Pollard#post6076969


Bernard Pollard could always play SS in this league. Herm was too stupid to utilize him correctly, Haoili was too lazy and insecure to bother coaching him.

Texas saw what he was and how to use him correctly. They coached him up, put him in a position to succeed and saw huge benefits on account of it.

now THAT cant be true, texas has never made a player that is NFL ready, just ask mecca

[DJ's left nut]

*Houston

[Delano]

now THAT cant be true, texas has never made a player that is NFL ready, just ask mecca

:facepalm:

Pollard was a Boilermaker.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

now THAT cant be true, texas has never made a player that is NFL ready, just ask mecca

UT, Beavis...UT. ;)