Babb: #5 pick

[tyton75]

Just heard on the Border Patrol that he thinks the pick might be McClain



flame away

[Chiefspants]

Babb- "In other words, I have no ****ing idea."

[notorious]

Nah, it's not fucking worth acknowledging something so fucking stupid.



Wait....

[Reerun_KC]

Babb- "In other words, I have no ****ing idea."

who actually knows other than the Chiefs Mgmt?

No one on this board fucking knows either...


Its anyone's guess at this point....

[Bane]

You mean were not taking Brandon Spikes @5 now? WTF!!!!!

[Sofa King]

You mean were not taking Brandon Spikes @5 now? WTF!!!!!

to the ship!!11!

[Reerun_KC]

:clap:You mean were not taking Brandon Spikes @5 now? WTF!!!!!

[Tribal Warfare]

McShay on the other hand believes it could be QB or Safety

[oldandslow]

Would rather have McClain than any OT in the mix...

still, that is damning with faint praise.

[notorious]

Would rather have McClain than any OT in the mix...

still, that is damning with faint praise.

Nice.

[The Bad Guy]

And he was saying last week it was Bulaga.

If it is McClain, I look forward to again having a soft middle of the field because he can't drop very well and there is no safety help.

[dirk digler]

I can't wait until Thursday night when all this speculative BS is over.

[notorious]

I can't wait until Thursday night when all this speculative BS is over.

Prepare for the all-out tearing down of whoever we pick.


Berry might be the only one that is immune.

[Bane]

Prepare for the all-out tearing down of whoever we pick.


Berry might be the only one that is immune.

I was gonna say if it's Berry,he may be the only pick that doesn't cause a melt down round here.

[Frosty]

McShay on the other hand believes it could be QB or Safety

That's not a good sign. :(

[dirk digler]

Prepare for the all-out tearing down of whoever we pick.


Berry might be the only one that is immune.

or Clausen

[The Bad Guy]

That's not a good sign. :(

I disagree 100%. McShay was beating the Tyson Jackson drum this time last year too.

[tyton75]

I think I would be happy if we at least took a shot at QB.. boom or bust


we haven't taken a shot since Blackledge

[CaliforniaChief]

McShay's analysis of our pick was pretty good, actually. *gulps*

He essentially said that the only two OL's worth the #5 pick are Okung and Williams, and he doesn't think Pioli would take Williams because of questionable work ethic. Re: Bulaga, he said that he's a good solid player but probably a right tackle. That brings them to plan B, which is safety.

Okung or Berry, he said. In other words, he's been on CP or The Bad Guy is holding him hostage and telling him to say this because this is what The Bad Guy's been saying for awhile.

[The Bad Guy]

Okung or Berry, he said. In other words, he's been on CP or The Bad Guy is holding him hostage and telling him to say this because this is what The Bad Guy's been saying for awhile.

Or maybe I'm just really Todd McShay.

[BigRedChief]

Or maybe I'm just really Todd McShay.Can I borrow some money?;)

[CaliforniaChief]

Or maybe I'm just really Todd McShay.

The hostage option sounds a lot more fun...

[Frosty]

I disagree 100%. McShay was beating the Tyson Jackson drum this time last year too.

Really? That's good to know.

[The Bad Guy]

Can I borrow some money?;)

Sorry, I use it all on hair products, tanning and martinis.

[Mr. Laz]

all this McClain stuff worries me more than that Bulaga rumor ever did.

i could see the chiefs reaching for McClain at 5 if they can't trade down.

it's irritating


If they reach for McClain then we might have a real problem.

Imo it means we have another gawd dam GM who is trying to prove that he is smarter than everyone else instead of just selecting the best player available. :cuss:

[tyton75]

I just have a feeling he is going to be the pick..

[BigRedChief]

Sorry, I use it all on hair products, tanning and martinis.:cuss:

[The Bad Guy]

If we are going with the whole positional value thing, ILB's in a 3-4 are less valuable than safeties.

[The Bad Guy]

No way do I think McClain is the pick. The whole Cron's disease thing has hurt his stock regardless if he's miracle cured now.

[Mr. Laz]

If we are going with the whole positional value thing, ILB's in a 3-4 are less valuable than safeties.
it makes no sense

we pass on a possible "elite" level talent because the position is considered a lower value to take a possible "good" level talent at a position with a lower value.

possible reasons

1. the chiefs think there are move good safeties to grab later so they need to grab the ILB now

2. they disagree with the evaluation about Berry and/or McClain

3. Pioli is just trying to prove he's smarter than everyone else.

[Tribal Warfare]

it makes no sense

we pass on a possible "elite" level talent because the position is considered a lower value to take a possible "good" level talent at a position with a lower value.

possible reasons

1. the chiefs think there are move good safeties to grab later so they need to grab the ILB now

2. they disagree with the evaluation about Berry and/or McClain

3. Pioli is just trying to prove he's smarter than everyone else.

Or Pioli doesn't have the balls to take elite talent because of " the bust factor"

[Rausch]

Imo it means we have another gawd dam GM who is trying to prove that he is smarter than everyone else instead of just selecting the best player available. :cuss:

It's hard to base an opinion off of one year but KC hasn't had the scouting, GM, or commitment to build a team for better than 10 years.

If the 3-4 defense is what we're going for you have to look at Pitt as the perfect example. They year in and year out find DE's and LB's (Inside and outside) in the 2nd and 3rd round who can come in and produce. If it's a light year at LB they sign some schlub who winds up being perfect for them.

My envy is boundless...

And if we're going for that pass-oriented offense...hell, I don't even know what Haley's vision or scheme is...I'm not sure if he did. I'm glad we hired someone who does.

I'm just not one of those people who thinks that our coaching staff and F/O has reached that perfect gel a franchise be builded on...

[King_Chief_Fan]

No way do I think McClain is the pick. The whole Cron's disease thing has hurt his stock regardless if he's miracle cured now.

In agreement bad guy........it is only Babb's opinion.......his is no better than anyone elses. Pioli hasn't tipped his hand to anyone.
Wait and see

[SenselessChiefsFan]

it makes no sense

we pass on a possible "elite" level talent because the position is considered a lower value to take a possible "good" level talent at a position with a lower value.

possible reasons

1. the chiefs think there are move good safeties to grab later so they need to grab the ILB now

2. they disagree with the evaluation about Berry and/or McClain

3. Pioli is just trying to prove he's smarter than everyone else.

I don't think Pioli is trying to prove anything. I do think #1 factors in. The reality is that safety may be the deepest position in this draft. So, getting one at #5 may not be the wisest move.

I am high on McClain. I would love to see them get a guy like that to play the middle. I think DJ will be a starter this year, and having him play next to DJ would be outstanding. I just don't like the pick at #5.

Same as I like Tyson Jackson as a fit for this team, just can't believe where they drafted him.

[petegz28]

I can't wait until Thursday night when all this speculative BS is over.

Why? Then we are just stuck with the Royals for the next few months.

[petegz28]

I don't think Pioli is trying to prove anything. I do think #1 factors in. The reality is that safety may be the deepest position in this draft. So, getting one at #5 may not be the wisest move.

I am high on McClain. I would love to see them get a guy like that to play the middle. I think DJ will be a starter this year, and having him play next to DJ would be outstanding. I just don't like the pick at #5.

Same as I like Tyson Jackson as a fit for this team, just can't believe where they drafted him.

We only drafted Jackson high because we couldn't trade down and he would be gone by the time we got the chance. Sometimes that is how it goes, contrary to Chiefs Planet philosophy.

[Mr. Laz]

We only drafted Jackson high because we couldn't trade down and he would be gone by the time we got the chance. Sometimes that is how it goes, contrary to Chiefs Planet philosophy.
and if the same thing happens again this year with McClain?

[The Bad Guy]

Take Petegz with a grain of salt. He thinks we should trade down to draft Cody.

[CanadaKC]

If we pass on a player like Berry, and the Browns, THe FREAKIN BROWNS, nab him at #7...Holmgren will look a lot better than Pioli in a couple years...I don't know what Pioli would be thinking to pass on a Reed-type speed guy in the middle..we neeed speed (cue top gun)

[dirk digler]

Take Petegz with a grain of salt. He thinks we should trade down to draft Cody.

:spock:

LMAO

[petegz28]

Take Petegz with a grain of salt. He thinks we should trade down to draft Cody.

Cody is the big blob we need in the middle of a 3-4 to suck up space. He can take up two blockers just standing there. Contrary to what a lot on here seem to think and\or want, the NT's job on a 3-4 is to take up space and blockers, not rush the QB.

[Reerun_KC]

Why? Then we are just stuck with the Royals for the next few months.

And every draft Expert here hijacking every thread.... Like I used to do with Herm...

[Frosty]

If we pass on a player like Berry, and the Browns, THe FREAKIN BROWNS, nab him at #7...Holmgren will look a lot better than Pioli in a couple years..

I agree but I am not sure Holmgren is all that different than Pioli. I live in Washington, so follow the Seahawks some. The Seahawks didn't draft very well under Holmgren. It got a little better after they took away his GM duties but most of the drafts under him were full of reaches and WTF? picks. He got a few hits, like Tatupu, but they were pretty uninspired drafts.

[King_Chief_Fan]

We only drafted Jackson high because we couldn't trade down and he would be gone by the time we got the chance. Sometimes that is how it goes, contrary to Chiefs Planet philosophy.

I agree