Smoke and fire...

[The Bad Guy]

Well, I just talked to my source. There is obviously a strong, strong impression that the Redskins take Berry. I don't necessarily believe it, but he does.

He said if Berry is gone, it's going to be McClain.

Take it for what it's for.

[OnTheWarpath15]

FML.

[raybec 4]

FML.

What is FML?

[The Franchise]

Jesus. Fucking. Christ.

I seriously hate this team.

[OnTheWarpath15]

What is FML?

Fuck.

My.

Life.

[keg in kc]

Works for me. I think it comes after a trade down, though.

[kc rush]

FML.

This.

[Dayze]

JFC. I'm an Alabama fan, but McClain at 5 would retarded.

[rockymtnchief]

I have a feeling I'm going to drink lots tonite and cuss even more.:grr:

[The Bad Guy]

If Berry is gone, I'd rather take McClain over Okung.

Clausen is but a dream.

[Reaper16]

RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE

[Brock]

Oh, this is going to be entertaining.

[raybec 4]

Works for me. I think it comes after a trade down, though.

I would hope so, but if Berry's gone and 5 and 6 aren't taking a QB who would trade with us and for what?

[Buehler445]

What is FML?
Fuck My Life.

[The Bad Guy]

Works for me. I think it comes after a trade down, though.

No one is trading up to our pick.

[Mr. Laz]

For the MutherFucking Loss?

[KevB]

How in the F can the Skins justify taking Berry and not the #1 Left Tackle on their board? Unless they have something else up their sleeve to get a left tackle, I just can't see Berry as their pick. I still think they're trying to trade down.

[Shag]

:banghead:

[L.A. Chieffan]

sports suck

[KurtCobain]

McClain's fine.

[The Bad Guy]

How in the F can the Skins justify taking Berry and not the #1 Left Tackle on their board? Unless they have something else up their sleeve to get a left tackle, I just can't see Berry as their pick. I still think they're trying to trade down.

I do too, but my guy is pretty resigned to the fact Berry is going to be gone.

I won't believe it until Goddell says it, but the Redskins are so fucking backwards it makes my head spin.

You trade for McNabb and you protect him with Stephon Heyer?

[The Franchise]

My Dad is a Redskins fan.

If the Redskins take Berry at #4.....I'm going to go over to his house and kick him in the balls.

FUCK!

[DaWolf]

So sounds like they desperately want a leader on this defense, be it Berry or McClain.

Hopefully if it is the latter, they manage a trade down.

If it is McClain at 5, he better turn into Ray Lewis quick.

Right now I think there are too many signs pointing to the Redskins going Berry and trading Haynesworth to get something to grab or trade for a LT...

[Sofa King]

http://strumpette.com/uploads/february08/jump_off_cliff.jpg


berry or trade down....

[keg in kc]

If Berry is gone, I'd rather take McClain over Okung.

Clausen is but a dream.Exactly. It ain't ****ing Bulaga. And it's a pick that actually makes sense for what we do defensively, whether it's traditionally a top-10 position in the draft or not. There are a number of other ways they could go that would be a shitton worse. Did I mention Bulaga?

But a trade down would be nice.

[raybec 4]

McClain's fine.

Better than a tackle I guess

[Buehler445]

My Dad is a Redskins fan.

If the Redskins take Berry at #4.....I'm going to go over to his house and kick him in the balls.

FUCK!

ROFL

[Jerm]

How in the F can the Skins justify taking Berry and not the #1 Left Tackle on their board? Unless they have something else up their sleeve to get a left tackle, I just can't see Berry as their pick. I still think they're trying to trade down.

Pretty much what I'm thinking...how the hell can they take Berry over Okung, Williams, etc?

Ugh.

[sedated]

I’m still amazed at how people absolutely KNOW who is going to be good and who isn’t in 5 to 10 years.

[The Franchise]

I'd rather see the Chiefs trade the #5 pick for Big Raping Ben......

[ArrowheadMagic]

I do too, but my guy is pretty resigned to the fact Berry is going to be gone.

I won't believe it until Goddell says it, but the Redskins are so ****ing backwards it makes my head spin.

You trade for McNabb and you protect him with Stephon Heyer?

Trading Haynesworth for a pick, then trading that pick and one next year to NO for Jammal Brown.

[OnTheWarpath15]

I do too, but my guy is pretty resigned to the fact Berry is going to be gone.

I won't believe it until Goddell says it, but the Redskins are so fucking backwards it makes my head spin.

You trade for McNabb and you protect him with Stephon Heyer?

If Jason Fucking Campbell can be the 15th rated QB last year behind that line, I'd think that McNabb would do fine as well.

Not to mention that there are guys like Gaither and Brown available, and guys that will get cut after the draft.

Hell, there's word that Alan Faneca is going to be cut over the weekend.

[Simply Red]

If this isn't true, i'm going to be calling the principal.

Fair warning.

[raybec 4]

My Dad is a Redskins fan.

If the Redskins take Berry at #4.....I'm going to go over to his house and kick him in the balls.

****!

You'll stroke out on the way.

[Farzin]

Now would be a good time to trade up. :rolleyes:

[ModSocks]

The Redskins are just giving me more reason to hate them. They are now my most hated team in the NFC....second most hated team in the league.

1. The rat
2. Clinton Portis
3. Larry Johnson
4. The rat
5. Taking Berry from us
6. Larry Johnson
7. The rat.

[dirk digler]

I am ok with McClain but I will be very sad it is not Berry and I will forever hate the Redskins.

[petegz28]

I do too, but my guy is pretty resigned to the fact Berry is going to be gone.

I won't believe it until Goddell says it, but the Redskins are so ****ing backwards it makes my head spin.

You trade for McNabb and you protect him with Stephon Heyer?

The owner of the Redskins will insist Berry be drafted because he is a notable name.

[The Franchise]

Fuck.

Fuck.

Fuck.

Fuck.

Fuck.

Fuck.

Fuck.

[The Franchise]

I am not ok with fucking McClain at the #5 spot.


Pioli....you better fucking draft Clausen....you fat fucking prick.

[The Bad Guy]

If Jason ****ing Campbell can be the 15th rated QB last year behind that line, I'd think that McNabb would do fine as well.

Not to mention that there are guys like Gaither and Brown available, and guys that will get cut after the draft.

Hell, there's word that Alan Faneca is going to be cut over the weekend.

We can agree to disagree. I think this line is going to get McNabb killed. Campbell didn't take a lot of shots and got his ass kicked last year when Samuels went down.

[kcchiefsus]

How in the F can the Skins justify taking Berry and not the #1 Left Tackle on their board? Unless they have something else up their sleeve to get a left tackle, I just can't see Berry as their pick. I still think they're trying to trade down.

Yep, wouldn't make sense. They don't pick again until the 4th round. If they take Berry i'm sure going to have a lot of fun watching McNabb get pummeled this year.

[petegz28]

I thought I heard on the NFL channel today that they were going to sign Haynesworth to a contract by the end of the day. Do they draft defense with their #1 pick while doing so?

[Mr. Flopnuts]

:deevee:

[ModSocks]

We can agree to disagree. I think this line is going to get McNabb killed. Campbell didn't take a lot of shots and got his ass kicked last year when Samuels went down.

If they take Berry, I fucking HOPE McNabb gets killed

Fuck the Redskins and Fuck the rat

[Hammock Parties]

Now we get to enjoy five months of Keg in KC telling us what a great pick McClain is.

[dirk digler]

I am praying this is all a smoke screen

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Unfuckingbelievable. I'm having a really hard time LALALALALLALALALALALLALALALAing right now.

[kcchiefsus]

I am not ok with ****ing McClain at the #5 spot.


Pioli....you better ****ing draft Clausen....you fat ****ing prick.

Or what, Mr. Internet Tough Guy will be really pissed off?

[The Franchise]

Yay....only 2 more hours.

:facepalm:

[siberian khatru]

My Dad is a Redskins fan.

If the Redskins take Berry at #4.....I'm going to go over to his house and kick him in the balls.

****!

My late grandfather was a die-hard Skins fan. If Wash takes Berry, I'm going to fly to N. Va., grab his urn and flush his ashes down the toilet.

[The Franchise]

Or what, Mr. Internet Tough Guy will be really pissed off?

I'll fucking kill you.

[The Franchise]

My late grandfather was a die-hard Skins fan. If Wash takes Berry, I'm going to fly to N. Va., grab his urn and flush his ashes down the toilet.

ROFL

[ModSocks]

I am praying this is all a smoke screen

Supposedly, the rat is the "king of smokescreens" and keeping his pick on the hush-hush...we'll see.

We have to remember, this is all shit generated by the Washington Post.

[the Talking Can]

fuck me in the ass with a brontosaurus penis

[Fish]

Yay....only 2 more hours.

:facepalm:

I just pulled the whiskey bottle out of my desk at work.......

:banghead:

[L.A. Chieffan]

if this happens and we dont get clausen....jesus

[Sure-Oz]

I will seriously hate the redskins and hope for negative things toward their franchise if they take berry damnit!

I'd rather have Mcclain than Okung as well but would prefer us trading down if we can if Berry gets drafted 4

[BryanBusby]

Eh, whatever. I'll laugh my fucking ass off if the Redskins skip on a LT for Berry and McNabb is legally murdered behind that trainwreck of a offensive line.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Look up the inside of a Crohn's infested asshole and tell me you're good with McClain. Yaaaay!!!! Let's draft a guy that might last 5 years in the fucking league.


FFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

[Sure-Oz]

Look up the inside of a Crohn's infested asshole and tell me you're good with McClain. Yaaaay!!!! Let's draft a guy that might last 5 years in the ****ing league.


FFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

I thought he didn't have Crohns

[keg in kc]

Now we get to enjoy five months of Keg in KC telling us what a great pick McClain is.Yeah, 'cause that's what I do.

[DrRyan]

Worst case scenario:
1. Bradford
2. Suh
3. McCoy
4. Berry
5. Chiefs ****ed since taking Clausen is very unlikely

Best case:
1. Bradford
2. Suh
3. McCoy
4. Okung
5. Berry, and Clausen actually does slide into the 20s, Weis jumps up and down on the war room table until it collapses and Pioli trades back into the first round to grab him.

Please make it the later...

[Frazod]

I really don't have much trouble believing that The Rat would fuck us on this just for old times' sake.

[CosmicPal]

Good lord, everyone is getting hyped up over nothing. This is the day of the draft- rumors are going around faster than high school girls on Twitter can tweet them. There's going to be rumors- mainly teams are going to say, "Oh, we're interested in Joe Blow" only to drive up trade interests.

If there is a team in the league right now that needs to trade down BIG TIME, it's the Redskins. They only have 4 picks in the draft! They're using Berry as their own trade bait, and they may go ahead and draft him JUST to trade him.

But, I doubt they do that. I honestly see them going LT because it is their biggest need and as much as I hate Shanny, I don't think he's dumb enough to pass on their biggest need when they only have 4 picks in the draft.

Lighten up folks...calm down. Breathe in. Breathe out. Breathe in. Breathe out.

[the Talking Can]

we passed on a QB for DJ...meanwhile the Packers transitioned from franchise QB to franchise QB

now we'll pass on another QB for a LB


because lbs are important, but QBs aren't
because LTs are important (per fuktard idiots like saccofaidsbats), but QBs aren't



it's fun playing it safe and having no chance in hell in ever sniffing a superbowl....but at least we won't waste Clark's precious money....and that makes true fans warm and fuzzy....

[kcchiefsus]

Eh, whatever. I'll laugh my ****ing ass off if the Redskins skip on a LT for Berry and McNabb is legally murdered behind that trainwreck of a offensive line.

Yep pretty much. Defense was NOT the problem for Washington last year. They were 10th in total defense and 8th in passing defense. They are switching to a 3-4 but Eric Berry doesn't help with the transition of the front 7.

They gave up 46 sacks last year and unless i'm forgetting something they haven't really done anything yet to fix that offensive line.

Taking Berry makes zero sense for them.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

I thought he didn't have Crohns

I don't see how a report comes out and says he has it, and then he says he doesn't. Doesn't make any sense to me. It's enough of a red flag, but I'm not a fan of him at 5 anyway. I don't even think he's the best LB in this draft.

[KevB]

Worst case scenario:
1. Bradford
2. Suh
3. McCoy
4. Berry
5. Chiefs ****ed since taking Clausen is very unlikely

Best case:
1. Bradford
2. Suh
3. McCoy
4. Okung
5. Berry, and Clausen actually does slide into the 20s, Weis jumps up and down on the war room table until it collapses and Pioli trades back into the first round to grab him.

Please make it the later...

That pretty much sums it up for me, although I'm indifferent on Clausen. I'm pretty much on the Berry or Bust train.

[rockymtnchief]

I'll fucking kill you.

That's TWO today! I can only dig so many graves in a day!:D

[The Franchise]

That's TWO today! I can only dig so many graves in a day!:D

Well....you only have to keep up until 5 PM PST. After that I won't be on CP. :D

[dirk digler]

Good lord, everyone is getting hyped up over nothing. This is the day of the draft- rumors are going around faster than high school girls on Twitter can tweet them. There's going to be rumors- mainly teams are going to say, "Oh, we're interested in Joe Blow" only to drive up trade interests.

If there is a team in the league right now that needs to trade down BIG TIME, it's the Redskins. They only have 4 picks in the draft! They're using Berry as their own trade bait, and they may go ahead and draft him JUST to trade him.

But, I doubt they do that. I honestly see them going LT because it is their biggest need and as much as I hate Shanny, I don't think he's dumb enough to pass on their biggest need when they only have 4 picks in the draft.

Lighten up folks...calm down. Breathe in. Breathe out. Breathe in. Breathe out.

That is what I am thinking but you never do know with Dan Snyder running the show.

[ModSocks]

Eh, whatever. I'll laugh my ****ing ass off if the Redskins skip on a LT for Berry and McNabb is legally murdered behind that trainwreck of a offensive line.

Ima HOPE for it. Ughhhh.....just thinking about the Redskins pisses me off. Hate their players, hater their coaches.....even their fucking team colors.

[Buehler445]

Supposedly, the rat is the "king of smokescreens" and keeping his pick on the hush-hush...we'll see.

We have to remember, this is all shit generated by the Washington Post.

There is validity to this. Remember the Jay Cutler WTF pick?

fuck me in the ass with a brontosaurus penis
ROFL

[Buck]

First in with "Jesus" McClain

[Demonpenz]

the last saftey they took was out of the league like in 4 years

[keg in kc]

First in with "Jesus" McClainNo no no, it's "Satan" McClain. He bites the heads off chickens and ****s sheep while dancing naked around a bonfire. And he dances slow, and his hip motion isn't very fluid.

[Buzzsaw]

the last saftey they took was out of the league like in 4 years

lol, oh no

[Buck]

the last saftey they took was out of the league like in 4 years

Thats not funny.

Plus they drafted a safety two years ago from LSU. Laron Landry

[DeezNutz]

I'd rather take that fat fucking bell ringer from Texas Tech at #5 overall than McClain.

Players whom I'd rather have:

Spiller
Haden
Spoon
Thomas

[Sure-Oz]

the last saftey they took was out of the league like in 4 years

:eek:

[the Talking Can]

the last saftey they took was out of the league like in 4 years

the last fetus your mom had was out of her belly in 7 weeks

[The Franchise]

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n189/pestilenceaf23/crazy.gif

[Chief Chief]

Well, I just talked to my source. There is obviously a strong, strong impression that the Redskins take Berry. I don't necessarily believe it, but he does.

He said if Berry is gone, it's going to be McClain.

Take it for what it's for.


Well, we have a source looking for TVs at the Best Buy in the Northland who winks when our inside guy says "QB" to him. SO THERE!!

[milkman]

If the Chiefs take McClain at 5, they can blow it out their ass.

McClain can show them how it's done.

[Demonpenz]

mods? Is bashing family members allowed? I thought it wasn't

[Sure-Oz]

If the Chiefs take McClain at 5, they can blow it out their ass.

McClain can show them how it's done.

Who would you want at 5 if berry is gone?

[Ebolapox]

FUCK

[the Talking Can]

mods? Is bashing family members allowed? I thought it wasn't

i bash your mom every night...no one ever complained

[Demonpenz]

Mods?

[Fish]

If the Chiefs take McClain at 5, they can blow it out their ass.

McClain can show them how it's done.

LMAO

[RedThat]

If the Redskins draft Berry, I think this would be a move influenced by Daniel Snyder.

If Shanahan had complete command, then yeah I could see the Skins drafting someone else.

*We all know the Redskins, and how they operate. They have an owner that covets talent and he would do anything to put the best team on paper to try and win but yet he has nothing to show for.

Oh well. Let them draft Berry at 4. No use in stressing over something we can't control anyway. McClain would be a solid pick imo. This team has so many holes on defense to begin with. Drafting Berry would help be he wouldn't be the solution to the Chiefs main problems on defense imo.

I know Berry is a great talent, but, realistically if you think about it, the Chiefs have way more problems than adding a cover safety/corner. Mainly, they need a passrush, and some guys that could stop the run.

If the Chiefs draft McClain, I think they should go linebacker all the way. That whole linebacking corps needs a facelift. I think this draft with both rounds 1 and 2 is a great opportunity for them to do so.

[Brock]

Or maybe they just don't think much of Okung.

[ModSocks]

So if we DO draft McClain, but were able to trade up in the 1st to nab Clausen, would this draft still be a win?

I'd have to say fuck yeah it would be.

[milkman]

I'd rather take that fat ****ing bell ringer from Texas Tech at #5 overall than McClain.

Players whom I'd rather have:

Spiller
Haden
Spoon
Thomas

Here's a question, and maybe Floppy can provide some insight from Seattle.

If Berry goes to DC, would the Seahawks think enough of Okung to maybe want to move up from 14 to ensure they get the top LT rather than the second one?

I'd tradedown and would be okay with a reach for Spoon at 14.

[rad]

I'm breaking this out early, just in case:
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[LaChapelle]

Close to a 4 hour Tags boner
seek medical attention

[Reaper16]

Here's a question, and maybe Floppy can provide some insight from Seattle.

If Berry goes to DC, would the Seahawks think enough of Okung to maybe want to move up from 14 to ensure they get the top LT rather than the second one?

I'd tradedown and would be okay with a reach for Spoon at 14.
I don't think that Spoon would be a reach at 14. He's totally worth a pick in the mid-teens.

[rad]

Mods?

LMAO

[Dayze]

I just hope this year isn't like the last 2 F(cking years where NFLN announces who the team on the clock is going to pick; about a minute before they turn in the card.


that's f*cking annoying.

[tyler360]

Im gonna call smokescreen for washington. There is no way they are gonna pass on offensive line help.

[milkman]

I don't think that Spoon would be a reach at 14. He's totally worth a pick in the mid-teens.

You may be right, though I thought it would be a slight reach.

[ModSocks]

Im gonna call smokescreen for washington. There is no way they are gonna pass on offensive line help.

I wouldnt put it past Dan Snyder. If they think he's Sean Taylor part duex.

[the Talking Can]

if it isn't going to be berry or clausen then trade down as far as possible


take hughes and thomas (either thomas)

[Archie Bunker]

I'm with TBG and Keg on this one. McClain is our best bet with Berry gone. I'd add Allen or Mays in Rd 2 and go from there.
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[milkman]

I wouldnt put it past Dan Snyder. If they think he's Sean Taylor part duex.

I don't think the Rat would have taken that job if he hadn't been given full control of personnel decisions.

[DaWolf]

Considering our recent history, whoever we draft better be a ****ing baller and be able to make impact plays and annually be our rep at the Pro Bowl...

[kcchiefsus]

I don't think the Rat would have taken that job if he hadn't been given full control of personnel decisions.

Pretty sure the Redskins hired a GM this offseason. Part of the rat's problem in Denver was having too much control IMO. If he and the Redskins organization know what is best they will let him stick to coaching and leave most of the personnel decisions to the front office.

[Mecca]

A guy with Crohns at 5....maybe he really wants to top the shittyness of the Jackson pick.

[Titty Meat]

FUCK YOU PIOLI

[milkman]

Pretty sure the Redskins hired a GM this offseason. Part of the rat's problem in Denver was having too much control IMO. If he and the Redskins organization know what is best they will let him stick to coaching and leave most of the personnel decisions to the front office.

The Donkeys hired Ted Zander(sp?) and the Browns hired George Kokinis last year, but McDumbass and Mangini were both controling things.

The situation in DC is the same.

The GM isn't in charge.

[RedThat]

**** YOU PIOLI

Relax dude...the draft hasn't even started yet sheesh

[cdcox]

Can this defense get any slower?

[Hootie]

I tell you what...

If we draft McClain we better god damn find a way to get Cody, too.

[CanadaKC]

I'll go global thermonuclear if Berry is drafted right before us...

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

I am not ok with fucking McClain at the #5 spot.


Pioli....you better fucking draft Clausen....you fat fucking prick.

This!

I'll fucking kill you.

ROFL

If the Chiefs take McClain at 5, they can blow it out their ass.

McClain can show them how it's done.

:clap:

[Mecca]

If our 3 straight top 5 picks are 2 techs and a MLB, we'll point to that in 5 years why we can't win a playoff game.

[FAX]

In light of potential undergarment issues that may occur as the draft unfolds, I am offering a panty unbunching service to all Chiefs fans this evening.

Basic Unbunch: $5.00.
Premium Unbunch: $10.00
Detwist: $15.00
Detwist With Bleach: $25.00
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FAX

[Dave Lane]

If Berry is gone, I'd rather take McClain over Okung.

Clausen is but a dream.

You are crazy. I'd rather pass the pick than take McClain.

[Dave Lane]

This is what a bowel looks like with Crohn's and this isn't even a bad case or while it is inflamed. This it probably what McClains intestine looks like.

[Fish]

This is what a bowel looks like with Crohn's and this isn't even a bad case or while it is inflamed. This it probably what McClains intestine looks like.

I can see Boba Fett's boot....

[the Talking Can]

This is what a bowel looks like with Crohn's and this isn't even a bad case or while it is inflamed. This it probably what McClains intestine looks like.

i would have sworn that was saccofbat's vagina

[Dave Lane]

Worst case scenario:
1. Bradford
2. Suh
3. McCoy
4. Berry
5. Chiefs ****ed since taking Clausen is very unlikely

Best case:
1. Bradford
2. Suh
3. McCoy
4. Okung
5. Berry, and Clausen actually does slide into the 20s, Weis jumps up and down on the war room table until it collapses and Pioli trades back into the first round to grab him.

Please make it the later...

I have a better one we trade down and get 2 extra picks which turn into Clausen and Golden Tate. Then Take Kindle and Cody. with the other 2nd rounders.

Then I 'll Jimp!

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

I have a better one we trade down and get 2 extra picks which turn into Clausen and Golden Tate. Then Take Kindle and Cody. with the other 2nd rounders.

Then I 'll Jimp!

I'll take it!