TX Gov. shoots coyote on jog

[rambleonthruthefog]

i f'n hate rick perry! i must admit though, i kinda like the fact that my gov. carries a weapon on him at times.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36812563/ns/us_news/?Gt1=43001

[rambleonthruthefog]

AUSTIN, Texas - Pistol-packing Texas Gov. Rick Perry has a message for wily coyotes out there: Don't mess with my dog.

Perry told The Associated Press on Tuesday he needed just one shot from the laser-sighted pistol he sometimes carries while jogging to take down a coyote that menaced his puppy during a February run near Austin.

Perry said he will carry his .380 Ruger — loaded with hollow-point bullets — when jogging on trails because he is afraid of snakes. He'd also seen coyotes in the undeveloped area.

When one came out of the brush toward his daughter's Labrador retriever, Perry charged.

"Don't attack my dog or you might get shot ... if you're a coyote," he said Tuesday.

Perry, a Republican running for a third full term against Democrat Bill White, is living in a private house in a hilly area southwest of downtown Austin while the Governor's Mansion is being repaired after a 2008 fire. A concealed handgun permit holder, Perry carries the pistol in a belt.

"I knew there were a lot of predators out there. You'll hear a pack of coyotes. People are losing small cats and dogs all the time out there in that community," Perry said.

"They're very wily creatures."

On this particular morning, Perry said, he was jogging without his security detail shortly after sunrise.

"I'm enjoying the run when something catches my eye and it's this coyote. I know he knows I'm there. He never looks at me, he is laser-locked on that dog," Perry said.

"I holler and the coyote stopped. I holler again. By this time I had taken my weapon out and charged it. It is now staring dead at me. Either me or the dog are in imminent danger. I did the appropriate thing and sent it to where coyotes go," he said.

Perry said the laser-pointer helped make a quick, clean kill.

"It was not in a lot of pain," he said. "It pretty much went down at that particular juncture."

Texas state law allows people to shoot coyotes that are threatening livestock or domestic animals. The dog was unharmed, Perry said.

Perry's security detail was not required to file a report about the governor discharging a weapon, said Department of Public Safety spokeswoman Tela Mange.

"People shoot coyotes all the time, snakes all the time," Mange said. "We don't write reports."

The governor left the coyote where it fell.

"He became mulch," Perry said.

[StcChief]

perfect. glad he's packin'

[The Franchise]

A laser sighted pistol.....for snakes? Really?

[beer bacon]

Man goes on shooting spree and wins election in landslide.

[rambleonthruthefog]

A laser sighted pistol.....for snakes? Really?

with hollow points!

[big nasty kcnut]

Hell good for him i hate snakes. Kill them all.

[Radar Chief]

A laser sighted pistol.....for snakes? Really?

:shrug: He must not be any good at shooting it.

[Fish]

By this time I had taken my weapon out and charged it. It is now staring dead at me. Either me or the dog are in imminent danger.

IT'S COMING RIGHT AT ME!!

[blaise]

So, a road runner shot a coyote

[Hammock Parties]

I'd use it to snipe squirrels and birds.

The jog would be fun as hell.

[Radar Chief]

IT'S COMING RIGHT AT ME!!

Yea, I saw that.
“It was me or the coyote.” :spock: Not unless it was rabid. Otherwise if he’d have yelled and stomped his feet the coyote probably would’ve tucked tail and run.

[petegz28]

I'd use it to snipe squirrels and birds.

The jog would be fun as hell.

WTF would you want to kill a bird or a squirrel??

[HoneyBadger]

This is why we should be able to carry guns.

[Hammock Parties]

WTF would you want to kill a bird or a squirrel??

Can't get away with killing humans.

[rambleonthruthefog]

This is why we should be able to carry guns.

no, this is why we should be able to carry guns.
http://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/local-beat/Mugging-Victim-Shoots-Mugger-Cops-92117109.html

[Sofa King]

The coyote must not have been able to get the fuse lit... further proof that Acme rocket fuse's are too long, like i've been saying for years...

[ChiefaRoo]

I think carrying a gun when ur jogging in the Hill Country is just good common sense
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[B_Ambuehl]

That coyote wouldn't have done anything to either him or his dog. If the dog was a little poodle, possibly, but I grew up 2 hours from austin and used to go hiking all the time with my golden retriever. The coyotes were terrified of him and would only stand around and survey the scene while the dog was a good distance away, then they'd take off running. The coyote was probably trying to decide whether the dog would attack and which way to run when he did.

[Goldmember]

That coyote wouldn't have done anything to either him or his dog. If the dog was a little poodle, possibly, but I grew up 2 hours from austin and used to go hiking all the time with my golden retriever. The coyotes were terrified of him and would only stand around and survey the scene while the dog was a good distance away, then they'd take off running. The coyote was probably trying to decide whether the dog would attack and which way to run when he did.

Exactly, what a big pussy!! I see them all the time mt. biking and they do all they can to avoid me. I try to get up close but they keep their distance. Shoot snakes???? This guy is a big fucking pussy.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Only in Texas !

Kudos to the Gov.

Everyone should be packing ,especially if you're the governor and

coyotes need to die

[Radar Chief]

That coyote wouldn't have done anything to either him or his dog. If the dog was a little poodle, possibly, but I grew up 2 hours from austin and used to go hiking all the time with my golden retriever. The coyotes were terrified of him and would only stand around and survey the scene while the dog was a good distance away, then they'd take off running. The coyote was probably trying to decide whether the dog would attack and which way to run when he did.

Yeah, he must have a particularly small, sickly and/or old lab if a coyote was coming out after it. Most labs are almost twice the size of a coyote and should be more than enough of a match for the coyote to think twice about coming after one.
Only exceptions I can think of are if the coyote was rabid or if it wasn’t alone but the Gov. didn’t see the other coyotes.

[Radar Chief]

Shoot snakes???? This guy is a big ****ing pussy.

:shrug: Depending on where I am I’ll shoot snakes on sight, same with snapping turtles. We’re over run with them and they harm the population of game fish and birds. But I’m also using a .22 rifle, not a .380 handgun.

[loochy]

Man, if Rick Perry was a ChiefsPlanet member, I'd rep him to infinity for this. Awesome. :D

[BigRedChief]

The coyote must not have been able to get the fuse lit... further proof that Acme rocket fuse's are too long, like i've been saying for years...You would think they would have made some modifications to the design by now.:rolleyes:

[Sofa King]

You would think they would have made some modifications to the design by now.:rolleyes:

yeah, like a shorter fuse, seat belts, parachutes, blast shield under to seat to help prevent those pesky "blow up immediately" cases..

maybe this deserves it's own thread... probably have to be in the DC though... it's some pretty hardcore stuff...

[blaise]

True Men Don't Kill Coyotes.

[seclark]

True Men Don't Kill Coyotes.

maybe not, but real men do.
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[BigRedChief]

True Men Don't Kill Coyotes.No chit they make a loud noise and the coyote runs away.ROFL

[MOhillbilly]

fuck i wonder if i can hire him out to hunt the fox off my place.

[Goldmember]

:shrug: Depending on where I am I’ll shoot snakes on sight, same with snapping turtles. We’re over run with them and they harm the population of game fish and birds. But I’m also using a .22 rifle, not a .380 handgun.

Then you'll be overun with rats, mice, ground squirrels, etc.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

**** i wonder if i can hire him out to hunt the fox off my place.

Real men don't hire other men to kill varmints on their own property.

[Saulbadguy]

I wonder how many hookers and circus midgets he has offed with the same pistol.

[DJ's left nut]

That coyote wouldn't have done anything to either him or his dog. If the dog was a little poodle, possibly, but I grew up 2 hours from austin and used to go hiking all the time with my golden retriever. The coyotes were terrified of him and would only stand around and survey the scene while the dog was a good distance away, then they'd take off running. The coyote was probably trying to decide whether the dog would attack and which way to run when he did.

Possibly, but a sick coyote will do crazy !@#$.

I wouldn't take any chances either. If a coyote were acting strangely around me or my dog, and I had a firearm, the world would be down 1 coyote. Sick, injured or hungry animals do strange things.

[MOhillbilly]

Real men don't hire other men to kill varmints on their own property.

Dont tell me about killin varmits, i done killed em all at one time or another. Fox just suck cause you gotta find the dens, cop a squat and wait it out. I dont own camo so ill have to wait till the wind is right and the dog is on point. in the day light no less.

[RJ]

Yeah, he must have a particularly small, sickly and/or old lab if a coyote was coming out after it. Most labs are almost twice the size of a coyote and should be more than enough of a match for the coyote to think twice about coming after one.
Only exceptions I can think of are if the coyote was rabid or if it wasn’t alone but the Gov. didn’t see the other coyotes.


The article describes the dog as a puppy.

[PunkinDrublic]

Us taxpayers are paying for him to stay in a multimillion dollar mansion while the Governers mansion is being repaired from a couple of months ago.

[Ugly Duck]

Coyotes, eagles, Great Horned Owls & bobcats are the only things keeping the rabbit population in check here in the Bay Area. We don't shoot any of the predators as we jog. Keeps varmint populations down. Also, I don't buy his South Park defense... guy's a fargin icehole.

[ChiefaRoo]

Listen, if you're out there in the shit and you see some varmit poking his head out towards you or your dog then why wouldn't you whip out your laser sited pistol and dispatch said varmit? Who wants their dog to get into a fight with a possibly rabid coyote?

[Radar Chief]

Then you'll be overun with rats, mice, ground squirrels, etc.

Only if you do nothing about them.
Snakes aren’t the only way to take care of those varmints.

[Radar Chief]

The article describes the dog as a puppy.

Ah, should’ve read closer. That makes a little more sense then.

[penguinz]

Listen, if you're out there in the shit and you see some varmit poking his head out towards you or your dog then why wouldn't you whip out your laser sited pistol and dispatch said varmit? Who wants their dog to get into a fight with a possibly rabid coyote?You are right. The proper response is to shoot any animal you see because there is the slightest chance it may harm you.

[Garcia Bronco]

Yea, I saw that.
“It was me or the coyote.” :spock: Not unless it was rabid. Otherwise if he’d have yelled and stomped his feet the coyote probably would’ve tucked tail and run.

Probably, but I wouldn't take a chance either. I'd shoot it dead and keep running.

[ChiefaRoo]

You are right. The proper response is to shoot any animal you see because there is the slightest chance it may harm you.

I can't tell if your taking the piss here but let me add this. Any self respecting predator would hear a man coming from a long way off. If the coyote wanted to get away all it had to do was stay out of sight. It's reasonable to assume the Gov. could come across a Rattlesnake, Coyote or even a medium sized cat like a Bobcat in the this part of the country.

[Garcia Bronco]

The coyote must not have been able to get the fuse lit... further proof that Acme rocket fuse's are too long, like i've been saying for years...

Best post in thread.

[MOhillbilly]

I can't tell if your taking the piss here but let me add this. Any self respecting predator would hear a man coming from a long way off. If the coyote wanted to get away all it had to do was stay out of sight. It's reasonable to assume the Gov. could come across a Rattlesnake, Coyote or even a medium sized cat like a Bobcat in the this part of the country.

If the animal was raised or migrated to an urban area chances are it'd be abit less shy of humans.

[Garcia Bronco]

You are right. The proper response is to shoot any animal you see because there is the slightest chance it may harm you.

Exactly. Outside of himself, he also has the right to protect his property.

[ChiefaRoo]

If the animal was raised or migrated to an urban area chances are it'd be abit less shy of humans.

Sure it's possible. Personally, I don't really like to hunt. That being said I would be aggressive if I was out in the country and any predator or territorial type of animal showed itself or exhibited aggressive behavior. A man in a jogging suit and sneakers doesn't have much in the way of defense outside of a weapon. I guess the Gov. could of tried to scare off the Coyote but what if it didn't scare? Then you're face to face with a little, possibly disease filled, predator. Even if it is small it could still do damage. It's not like he shot a bald Eagle or Bambi.

[Saccopoo]

Unless it was rabid, there is no fucking way a coyote is approaching a full grown man. No fucking way. They can't run away fast enough.

The dipshit is out there shooting anything that moves and doesn't want to be labeled a psycho, so he says the coyote was about to attack. He's full of shit.

Laser sighted .380 semi auto with hollow points for snakes? And I thought that the Utah legislature was going to be tough to beat. (They still are, as we are the only state in the Union that allows concealed firearms to be carried on state higher education campuses, but I'm sure Texas is close in terms of state rights cowboy mentality.)

[penguinz]

Exactly. Outside of himself, he also has the right to protect his property.With what he used it is fairly obvious he carries the gun and shot it because he likes to shoot things. A .380 Ruger with hollow points and a laser sight is not what one carries to off a snake.

[Ugly Duck]

there is no ****ing way a coyote is approaching a full grown man. No ****ing way.

Hey now... he might have been the very 1st human in the history of mankind killed by a lone coyote had he not defended himself. Its almost sorta kinda close to possible, maybe.

[MOhillbilly]

Sure it's possible. Personally, I don't really like to hunt. That being said I would be aggressive if I was out in the country and any predator or territorial type of animal showed itself or exhibited aggressive behavior. A man in a jogging suit and sneakers doesn't have much in the way of defense outside of a weapon. I guess the Gov. could of tried to scare off the Coyote but what if it didn't scare? Then you're face to face with a little, possibly disease filled, predator. Even if it is small it could still do damage. It's not like he shot a bald Eagle or Bambi.

I had a buck in the rut i was upwind from come right in on top of me, in my own yard. It was nighttime and thats the only reasonable excuse i can come up with as to why a buck would get within 6-8 ft of me.
fun.
You never know the motives of animals when they act funny, could have been curious,diseased,dumb, or protecting its den. It is that time of year and ive had varmits come right out after me to protect its kits.

[Fish]

Unless it was rabid, there is no fucking way a coyote is approaching a full grown man. No fucking way. They can't run away fast enough.

The dipshit is out there shooting anything that moves and doesn't want to be labeled a psycho, so he says the coyote was about to attack. He's full of shit.

Laser sighted .380 semi auto with hollow points for snakes? And I thought that the Utah legislature was going to be tough to beat. (They still are, as we are the only state in the Union that allows concealed firearms to be carried on state higher education campuses, but I'm sure Texas is close in terms of state rights cowboy mentality.)

Uhh uhhhhh....

http://www.ktka.com/news/2010/mar/24/house-approves-concealed-carry-campus/

[MOhillbilly]

Unless it was rabid, there is no ****ing way a coyote is approaching a full grown man. No ****ing way. They can't run away fast enough.

The dipshit is out there shooting anything that moves and doesn't want to be labeled a psycho, so he says the coyote was about to attack. He's full of shit.

Laser sighted .380 semi auto with hollow points for snakes? And I thought that the Utah legislature was going to be tough to beat. (They still are, as we are the only state in the Union that allows concealed firearms to be carried on state higher education campuses, but I'm sure Texas is close in terms of state rights cowboy mentality.)

if i see a snake i dont like i just go around it or leave.

[RJ]

The real reason he carries a gun is for the Mexican drug cartels.

[MOhillbilly]

The real reason he carries a gun is for the Mexican drug cartels.

if thats the case he better get a M4.

[ChiefaRoo]

I had a buck in the rut i was upwind from come right in on top of me, in my own yard. It was nighttime and thats the only reasonable excuse i can come up with as to why a buck would get within 6-8 ft of me.
fun.
You never know the motives of animals when they act funny, could have been curious,diseased,dumb, or protecting its den. It is that time of year and ive had varmits come right out after me to protect its kits.

Yep. Why risk it. Carry a gun or bring a good guard dog with you. I run with my dog at night in the Hill Country. She's about 50lbs or so and alerts me if something is near. Which is good because I like to wear my IPOD.

[DJ's left nut]

I had a buck in the rut i was upwind from come right in on top of me, in my own yard. It was nighttime and thats the only reasonable excuse i can come up with as to why a buck would get within 6-8 ft of me.
fun.
You never know the motives of animals when they act funny, could have been curious,diseased,dumb, or protecting its den. It is that time of year and ive had varmits come right out after me to protect its kits.

Exactly.

Everyone keeps saying "unless it was rabid, blah blah blah". Well hell, let's just get out a Q-tip and swab it's mouth real quick.

Everybody is saying that the Coyote would've just run away, well the damn thing didn't do that. If an animal is doing something out of the ordinary and you have your person or property to protect, that's good enough for me.

This animal was acting strangely. At that point, all the qualifications of what a 'normal' coyote would have done are irrelevant.

[Saccopoo]

Uhh uhhhhh....

http://www.ktka.com/news/2010/mar/24/house-approves-concealed-carry-campus/

Awesome. It's the new hip thing for college kids to accessorize with...that's great.

[Fish]

Awesome. It's the new hip thing for college kids to accessorize with...that's great.

Also... it makes for a great date rape tool...

[Chiefnj2]

He carries the gun with hollow points because he's afraid of snakes? Now I don't feel so bad about carrying around a flame thrower because of my fear of spiders.

[Saccopoo]

if i see a snake i dont like i just go around it or leave.

I think most normal people do. I don't know a lot of people who go out for a morning jog packing Terminator hardware.

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[L.A. Chieffan]

wrong...

[L.A. Chieffan]

the thing is the t-800 model should have known that the phased plasma rifle would have not been available in 1985 and therefore not asked the clerk for it. To me that is a serious movie goof.

[ChiefaRoo]

I know this guy who bought a lab puppy and was keeping it outside at night because it wasn't house broken yet. He lives about 10 miles from me in the Hill Country near Driftwood. He woke up in the middle of the night to the dog barking and all hell breaking loose. Three Coyotes got a hold of the dog and chewed it up so bad that it died an hour or two later.

He took the corpse. Tied it to a tree and got out his Rifle with night a site. He killed them all when they came back to eat the remains.

[seclark]

I know this guy who bought a lab puppy and was keeping it outside at night because it wasn't house broken yet. He lives about 10 miles from me in the Hill Country near Driftwood. He woke up in the middle of the night to the dog barking and all hell breaking loose. Three Coyotes got a hold of the dog and chewed it up so bad that it died an hour or two later.

He took the corpse. Tied it to a tree and got out his Rifle with night a site. He killed them all when they came back to eat the remains.

hell, i've gut shot coyotes and watched others in the pack turn on it. kinda like this place sometimes.
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[L.A. Chieffan]

fuck man, thats what a kennel is for

[Radar Chief]

What’s the big deal with a .380 and hollow points? That’s not a particularly big or powerful caliber.
Hell, when I go fishing at the river I’m typically carrying a .45 Colt with 230 grain hollow points, but that’s not for the snakes, turtles or even coyotes. That’s for the meth monkeys. ;)

[DJ's left nut]

I know this guy who bought a lab puppy and was keeping it outside at night because it wasn't house broken yet. He lives about 10 miles from me in the Hill Country near Driftwood. He woke up in the middle of the night to the dog barking and all hell breaking loose. Three Coyotes got a hold of the dog and chewed it up so bad that it died an hour or two later.

He took the corpse. Tied it to a tree and got out his Rifle with night a site. He killed them all when they came back to eat the remains.

Fuck that, if a coyote took even a poke at one of my labs, I'd shoot the little bastards in the legs so I could work them over myself.

I think I'd have to slow roast the MFers.

[Saccopoo]

I know this guy who bought a lab puppy and was keeping it outside at night because it wasn't house broken yet. He lives about 10 miles from me in the Hill Country near Driftwood. He woke up in the middle of the night to the dog barking and all hell breaking loose. Three Coyotes got a hold of the dog and chewed it up so bad that it died an hour or two later.

He took the corpse. Tied it to a tree and got out his Rifle with night a site. He killed them all when they came back to eat the remains.

That's nice.

Tie up a midnight snack in hill country where you know coyotes are and are surprised that they attacked a puppy?

The guy you know should have shot himself if he was so pissed out something eating his dog, because it's his fault it got gnawed on in the first place.

Fucking people act all surprised when some aspect of nature rears it's head and interjects itself into human life when the humans locate themselves into the middle of what was originally the animals domain. God damn suburban sprawl.

[MOhillbilly]

What’s the big deal with a .380 and hollow points? That’s not a particularly big or powerful caliber.
Hell, when I go fishing at the river I’m typically carrying a .45 Colt with 230 grain hollow points, but that’s not for the snakes, turtles or even coyotes. That’s for the meth monkeys. ;)

I packed a IMI .44 desert eagle for years.;)

[Garcia Bronco]

With what he used it is fairly obvious he carries the gun and shot it because he likes to shoot things. A .380 Ruger with hollow points and a laser sight is not what one carries to off a snake.

That's totally irrelevent. Maybe he doesn't like to miss or be left wanting. Either way he has a right to defend himself and his property(which in this case was a dog.)

[MOhillbilly]

That's nice.

Tie up a midnight snack in hill country where you know coyotes are and are surprised that they attacked a puppy?

The guy you know should have shot himself if he was so pissed out something eating his dog, because it's his fault it got gnawed on in the first place.

****ing people act all surprised when some aspect of nature rears it's head and interjects itself into human life when the humans locate themselves into the middle of what was originally the animals domain. God damn suburban sprawl.

Its not like the varmit population is in peril.

[Garcia Bronco]

That's nice.

Tie up a midnight snack in hill country where you know coyotes are and are surprised that they attacked a puppy?

The guy you know should have shot himself if he was so pissed out something eating his dog, because it's his fault it got gnawed on in the first place.

****ing people act all surprised when some aspect of nature rears it's head and interjects itself into human life when the humans locate themselves into the middle of what was originally the animals domain. God damn suburban sprawl.

And people like you act all crazy because he fixed the problem. Probably because you saw Fox and the Hound to many times whne you were a kid.

[L.A. Chieffan]

that fact that its says "replica" on the side of your gun,

and the fact that ive got "desert eagle... POINT 5 OH"....written on the side of mine should precipitate your balls into shrinking

[vailpass]

Its a fugging coyote. They are useful for adjusting your sights, thats about it.

[DJ's left nut]

I'm a little curious why people keep emphasizing 'hollow point'.

Folks, that's just a bullet. Sure, the shape's a little different but people act like it's some sort of tactical bullet used only during night incursions. Perhaps they've seen too many Dirty Harry movies.

Guess what I put into my stupid Ruger Mk-II plinkin' pistol? I use GASP hollow point long rifle....22s. The hollow points make a bullet just a little higher caliber by virtue of the air pocket on the leading edge of them. Otherwise, there's not a whole lot to them. These things aren't armor plated cop-killers and I'd imagine most people buying pistol rounds buy hollow points without even thinking about it.

You're essentially saying that anyone carrying a pistol should be carrying a .22 or a 9 mil? A .22 is pretty damn hard to hit a moving creature with unless you shoot a fair amount. A 9 mil is easier to hit stuff with, but is a terrible personal protection weapon; it's not stopping anyone that's coming at you with any degree of anger.

So do you recommend that Gov. Perry have both a 9 mil in one hand for shootin' varmints and a .380 in the other for protection? Or he could just carry a single firearm, as is his legal right.

The caliber/type of bullet here is completely irrelevant.

[ChiefaRoo]

That's nice.

Tie up a midnight snack in hill country where you know coyotes are and are surprised that they attacked a puppy?

The guy you know should have shot himself if he was so pissed out something eating his dog, because it's his fault it got gnawed on in the first place.

****ing people act all surprised when some aspect of nature rears it's head and interjects itself into human life when the humans locate themselves into the middle of what was originally the animals domain. God damn suburban sprawl.

He was upset with himself.

[penguinz]

That's totally irrelevent. Maybe he doesn't like to miss or be left wanting. Either way he has a right to defend himself and his property(which in this case was a dog.)Or done what most people would have done which is leave the dog at home if it is just a puppy and you know you are going to be in an area where it might be in danger.

[DJ's left nut]

Or done what most people would have done which is leave the dog at home if it is just a puppy and you know you are going to be in an area where it might be in danger.

You're totally right.

Most people never take puppies on jogging trails. That's completely unreasonable.

Fuck, some of you people will stretch the bounds of reason shockingly thin when they get in the way of an agenda....

[Garcia Bronco]

Or done what most people would have done which is leave the dog at home if it is just a puppy and you know you are going to be in an area where it might be in danger.

So now he can't enjoy himself with his dog? Seriously? LOL. His puppy could be in danger anywhere. Following your logic no one should leave their house

[Garcia Bronco]

You're totally right.

Most people never take puppies on jogging trails. That's completely unreasonable.

****, some of you people will stretch the bounds of reason shockingly thin when they get in the way of an agenda....

Seriously.

[vailpass]

Some of the posts on this thread make it clear why America is in the shape in which she finds herself today.

[Garcia Bronco]

that fact that its says "replica" on the side of your gun,

and the fact that ive got "desert eagle... POINT 5 OH"....written on the side of mine should precipitate your balls into shrinking

There are two types of ball. Big brave balls and little mincy faggot balls.

[T-post Tom]

Fox News now reporting that the coyote was carrying an Acme anvil.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Tie a puppy to a stake in the middle of a field at night and it makes a great coyote call.

[vailpass]

Tie a puppy to a stake in the middle of a field at night and it makes a great coyote call.

They are weird animals. They will send a female coyote in heat into a yard where a dog lives. Once the bitch draws the dog out the pack will spring and devour.
If you have never heard a pack of coyotes in full swing it is eerie, part screaming part laughing all loud and crazy.
Real good for target practice.

[Fish]

They are weird animals. They will send a female coyote in heat into a yard where a dog lives. Once the bitch draws the dog out the pack will spring and devour.
If you have never heard a pack of coyotes in full swing it is eerie, part screaming part laughing all loud and crazy.
Real good for target practice.

Whaaat? Where did you hear that? I don't believe it a bit.

[vailpass]

Whaaat? Where did you hear that? I don't believe it a bit.

Hear it? My buddy in Cave Creek had it happen last summer. Don't know what the coyotes are like where you live but that's what happened.

[Fish]

Hear it? My buddy in Cave Creek had it happen last summer. Don't know what the coyotes are like where you live but that's what happened.

When a bitch is in heat... there's nothing going on but fucking. They don't use her as bait instead. She's only in heat for maybe 5 days a year.

[vailpass]

When a bitch is in heat... there's nothing going on but ****ing. They don't use her as bait instead. She's only in heat for maybe 5 days a year.

Do you have coyotes by your house? I'm not looking to argue, just sharing something that happened that I found interesting.

[Fish]

Do you have coyotes by your house?

I grew up on a farm. My family hunts coyotes with greyhounds we breed and raise ourselves specifically for the purpose. Yes we have coyotes.

[DJ's left nut]

They are weird animals. They will send a female coyote in heat into a yard where a dog lives. Once the bitch draws the dog out the pack will spring and devour.
If you have never heard a pack of coyotes in full swing it is eerie, part screaming part laughing all loud and crazy.
Real good for target practice.

Eerie's a good word for it.

Not a comforting sound. Even if you know you could punt kick one of the bastards a solid 10 feet, it will still send a chill up your spine.

[Fish]

I'd wager a good amount that coyotes do not possess the ability to use a female in heat as bait. They use lots of pack tactics, but that isn't one of them. When they're in heat all they do is fuck. They wouldn't be hunting during that. And they sure as hell wouldn't let a horny bitch wander away from the pack.

[vailpass]

I'd wager a good amount that coyotes do not possess the ability to use a female in heat as bait. They use lots of pack tactics, but that isn't one of them. When they're in heat all they do is ****. They wouldn't be hunting during that. And they sure as hell wouldn't let a horny bitch wander away from the pack.

Got it Fish, no worries. Do I strike you as a liar?
It's a big wide world out there full of things we don't yet know.

The coyote here have all been displaced by development and have turned into garbage eaters and urban hunters.

My buddy is a native AZ guy, owns a cabin in ShowLow, boats on Havasu, quads at Glamis, hunts javalina with a bow, etc. etc.

If he says it happened I believe him.

[Fish]

An even creepier sound is the mountain lion. If you've ever had the good fortune to hear it, you'd never forget it. Kind of a cross between a baby crying and a lady screaming. Spooky.

Heard one near our house late one night. Both our dogs were just paralyzed looking over the fence down in the draw behind our house. My biggest dog Sampson was a greyhound that came from the best greyhound bloodline in KS. Huge greyhound. Killed a badger by himself when he was barely a year old. And he had his tail tucked between his legs cowering by my leg. Saw the tracks the next morning.

[Fish]

Got it Fish, no worries. Do I strike you as a liar?
It's a big wide world out there full of things we don't yet know.

The coyote here have all been displaced by development and have turned into garbage eaters and urban hunters.

My buddy is a native AZ guy, owns a cabin in ShowLow, boats on Havasu, quads at Glamis, hunts javalina with a bow, etc. etc.

If he says it happened I believe him.

No I don't think you're lying, I just think you were misinformed. It doesn't fit their behavior. Not saying I'm a coyote expert or anything. But they just don't hunt like that. Coyotes are very adaptive, but when it's breeding time, that's priority #1 and they don't share.

[vailpass]

No I don't think you're lying, I just think you were misinformed. It doesn't fit their behavior. Not saying I'm a coyote expert or anything. But they just don't hunt like that. Coyotes are very adaptive, but when it's breeding time, that's priority #1 and they don't share.

Different hunting & mating behaviors in different eco systems do exist, do they not?
These animals have all been driven from their natural habitat by sprawl (less so in Cave Creek) and so have had to develop new hunting strategies.
A hundred years ago the coyote here weren't eating out of trash cans and dog food dishes but they do now.

Looks like I've beat this horse to death.
Cheers Fish.
vp

[Fish]

Different hunting & mating behaviors in different eco systems do exist, do they not?
These animals have all been driven from their natural habitat by sprawl (less so in Cave Creek) and so have had to develop new hunting strategies.
A hundred years ago the coyote here weren't eating out of trash cans and dog food dishes but they do now.

Looks like I've beat this horse to death.
Cheers Fish.
vp

I don't think that 5 days out of the year is enough to create a hunting behavioral pattern over time. Especially when those 5 days also happen to be the only 5 days a year when the fellas can bust a nut.

Anyway.. Cheers bud.

[vailpass]

I don't think that 5 days out of the year is enough to create a hunting behavioral pattern over time. Especially when those 5 days also happen to be the only 5 days a year when the fellas can bust a nut.
Anyway.. Cheers bud.

You can't send the woman for a sandwich after you get done with her?:D

[Radar Chief]

Whaaat? Where did you hear that? I don't believe it a bit.

Dude, coyotes are devious, problem solving smart. I've seen them run a pack of hunting dogs back and forth across a highway until they thin enough of them out to work an escape.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Fish, Vailpass is right , a pack tried doing the same thing to me but I didn't fall for it.

[NewChief]

This is a great article on the coyote hybrids that have started terrorizing the northeast.

http://outside.away.com/outside/culture/201003/coyote-attacks-1.html

[Lonewolf Ed]

Yeah, he must have a particularly small, sickly and/or old lab if a coyote was coming out after it. Most labs are almost twice the size of a coyote and should be more than enough of a match for the coyote to think twice about coming after one.
Only exceptions I can think of are if the coyote was rabid or if it wasn’t alone but the Gov. didn’t see the other coyotes.

I read that it was a puppy he had with him.

[Goldmember]

They are weird animals. They will send a female coyote in heat into a yard where a dog lives. Once the bitch draws the dog out the pack will spring and devour.
If you have never heard a pack of coyotes in full swing it is eerie, part screaming part laughing all loud and crazy.
Real good for target practice.

That's pretty damn smart; something that humans also do.

[Goldmember]

Only in Texas !

Kudos to the Gov.

Everyone should be packing ,especially if you're the governor and

coyotes need to die

Yeah, kill all the predators, sharks, lions, tigers, etc. Who needs em!

[NewChief]

Yeah, kill all the predators, sharks, lions, tigers, etc. Who needs em!

Hey Barbara Kingsolver has a great examination of the repercussions of killing off the predator in her novel Prodigal Summer. That being said, I don't think that the current coyote situation, in many places, is necessarily the result of a healthy ecosystem.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Yeah, kill all the predators, sharks, lions, tigers, etc. Who needs em!

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[Goldmember]

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:clap: will it eat small children also?

[vailpass]

Fish, Vailpass is right , a pack tried doing the same thing to me but I didn't fall for it.

:D Dude you always crack me up.

[ThaVirus]

Laser pointed pistol with hollow tips...For snakes? What a fucking pussy. Just go around it, you douche. As far as I'm concerned, the only animals in the US you'd need a weapon for are cougars and bears (maybe wolves), and neither of those reside in Texas (correct me if I'm wrong). This guy just sounds like he has a small dick and is looking for a reason to pop off on something.

On a similar but not so similar side note, can I just say that hunting is for pussies..?

[Saccopoo]

Different hunting & mating behaviors in different eco systems do exist, do they not?
These animals have all been driven from their natural habitat by sprawl (less so in Cave Creek) and so have had to develop new hunting strategies.
A hundred years ago the coyote here weren't eating out of trash cans and dog food dishes but they do now.

Looks like I've beat this horse to death.
Cheers Fish.
vp

Your "buddy" is the same guy that I've heard say that shit 20 years ago. That the coyote pack sends it's in heat female into a domesticated dog's area and "lures" them out so the pack can attack and feed on them.

That bullshit has been in the "urban legend" myth of animal nature for a long, long time. And it's just that - bullshit.

Your buddy got that from somebody, because I seriously heard that same thing 20 years ago. And I heard that from an idiot that had no idea what the fuck he was talking about, let alone some hillbilly schmuck who has actually delt with ravenous packs of Mensa level coyotes bent on human destruction.

[pikesome]

Your "buddy" is the same guy that I've heard say that shit 20 years ago. That the coyote pack sends it's in heat female into a domesticated dog's area and "lures" them out so the pack can attack and feed on them.

That bullshit has been in the "urban legend" myth of animal nature for a long, long time. And it's just that - bullshit.

Your buddy got that from somebody, because I seriously heard that same thing 20 years ago. And I heard that from an idiot that had no idea what the **** he was talking about, let alone some hillbilly schmuck who has actually delt with ravenous packs of Mensa level coyotes bent on human destruction.

I went looking around for proof, one way or the other, of this and found almost nothing. For or against the story. I did find a recommendation to sheep ranchers that wanted protection for their flocks but didn't want to use dogs to use either d onkeys (damn filter) or llamas. Guard llamas. :)

[Pushead2]

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what the fuck kind of frog is that! :eek:

[MahiMike]

I guess the ACME dog / tree noose jammed? Road Runner wins again.

His campaign slogan should be "BEEP BEEP!"

[DeezNutz]

And people like you act all crazy because he fixed the problem. Probably because you saw Fox and the Hound to many times whne you were a kid.

Fixed?

Were those the only three coyotes in the area? And the exact same three coyotes from the previous night returned?

I could care less about these animals, but all this dude did was take out a little aggression.

[Bwana]

Nice! I think I'll send him and email and ask if he can jog in Montana. Perhaps he can shoot a wolf or two?

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

what the **** kind of frog is that! :eek:

Umm.....I'm guessin a Pyxie frog. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

[MOhillbilly]

I went looking around for proof, one way or the other, of this and found almost nothing. For or against the story. I did find a recommendation to sheep ranchers that wanted protection for their flocks but didn't want to use dogs to use either d onkeys (damn filter) or llamas. Guard llamas. :)

lots of people keep burros for flock protection. They will take a pack on full steam. About 15 years ago i happened to see a pack of dogs vs. a burro, wasnt much of a fight.

[NewChief]

lots of people keep burros for flock protection. They will take a pack on full steam. About 15 years ago i happened to see a pack of dogs vs. a burro, wasnt much of a fight.

The burro took out the dogs?

[MOhillbilly]

The burro took out the dogs?


ran em off, stomped a few. Come down off a hill into a glade at about 900mph when it seen those dogs.

[DJ's left nut]

Hoofed animals and dogs do not mix well at all.

We have this lab puppy that we're raising to be a service dog. Part of what we do with him is expose him to anything we can to get him used to what he'll see while working.

A friend of mine has a farm that he keeps a bunch of animals on; weird stuff. He has a zebra right now, he had skunks, racoons, deer, a goose and elk at the time. He's even had a baby buffalo out there (until it got to big to safely be around; it could hurt you on accident).

So he has this baby elk that he's bottle fed so it's tame. It was completely mellow around people but when the dog came nearby, the elk started trying to step on it with it's front legs. It wasn't frantic, just this matter of fact movement like a person stepping on a cockroach. He'd just walk up to the puppy, bend down and sniff him, then take his front hoof and try to step on/kick him. He was still too young and uncoordinated to do it terribly well, but it was clear what his intentions were.

Anything from that Cervidae family is going to pretty well tear the hell out of a dog if it can. It's just genetically hardwired to hate them.

[Ugly Duck]

An even creepier sound is the mountain lion. If you've ever had the good fortune to hear it, you'd never forget it. Kind of a cross between a baby crying and a lady screaming. Spooky.

Truly deserving of the moniker "blood-curdling." Nobody is prepared for that sudden scream... its freaking paralyzing.

[Radar Chief]

Truly deserving of the moniker "blood-curdling." Nobody is prepared for that sudden scream... its freaking paralyzing.

That’s no shit.
I had one start screaming in the woods behind my tent at Grand Lake one time, and for lack of a better way of putting it, it sounded like a woman being stabbed to death. Blood curdling is putting it lightly.

[boogblaster]

"Cougars" usually scream with passion when Im porkin' them ....

[vailpass]

Your "buddy" is the same guy that I've heard say that shit 20 years ago. That the coyote pack sends it's in heat female into a domesticated dog's area and "lures" them out so the pack can attack and feed on them.

That bullshit has been in the "urban legend" myth of animal nature for a long, long time. And it's just that - bullshit.

Your buddy got that from somebody, because I seriously heard that same thing 20 years ago. And I heard that from an idiot that had no idea what the **** he was talking about, let alone some hillbilly schmuck who has actually delt with ravenous packs of Mensa level coyotes bent on human destruction.

Aren't you the same guy who hasn't been laid in 5 years by choice? I realize you need to vent but this isn't the way to relieve the kind of build-up you must be experiencing.
Who is the 'hillbilly schmuck' you are referencing?