Mizzou to the Big 10 a "done deal"?

[Mr. Laz]

They were talking about it on Espn The Scott Van Pelt Show. I just barely caught it and he names a guy as a source for that statement but it was a name i've never heard of. I think it was a conference guy, but i dunno.

Said that Mizzou to the Big 10 was a done deal and that the Big 10 was just working on how many other teams it wants and who they would be ... mentioned Colorado and Texas.


just FYI :shrug:

[Reerun_KC]

Well that totally kills the rivarly...

[|Zach|]

From TigerBoard.

SVP quoting an unnamed Pac-10 AD who said Mizzou to the Big 10 is "essentially a done deal". Does this mean much? Probably not, but there it is anyway.

Go Mizzou!
LN

[|Zach|]

Well that totally kills the rivarly...

Meh, doubtful.

[Frazod]

I'll believe it when I see it, but I sure this is true. And I hope it goes down sooner rather than later.

And assuming KU has the sack to play a real team on its non-conference schedule every year, the rivalry can remain intact.

[ArrowheadHawk]

I'll believe it when I see it, but I sure this is true. And I hope it goes down sooner rather than later.

And assuming KU has the sack to play a real team on its non-conference schedule every year, the rivalry can remain intact.We are playing Georgia Tech and Southern Miss this year. What wrong with that?

[BigRedChief]

It's a good move for Mizzou. I don't think the KU riviraly will be effected. I'm sure Missouri made part of the deal to join that they have to be able to schedule KU in football and basketball.

[InChiefsHeaven]

I'll believe it when I see it, but I sure this is true. And I hope it goes down sooner rather than later.

And assuming KU has the sack to play a real team on its non-conference schedule every year, the rivalry can remain intact.

No fucking way. Those non-conference games are designed to be wins...

What the hell, Texas and CU too? SO what, now we'll have the Big 9 Conference?

[Sure-Oz]

It's a good move for Mizzou. I don't think the KU riviraly will be effected. I'm sure Missouri made part of the deal to join that they have to be able to schedule KU in football and basketball.

I definetly hope so.

[Rooster]

Well that totally kills the rivarly...

It sure will take the fun out of it.

[ArrowheadHawk]

No ****ing way. Those non-conference games are designed to be wins...

What the hell, Texas and CU too? SO what, now we'll have the Big 9 Conference?No they would add other schools like TCU, Houston, Colorado State, Rice, Wichita State, Creighton.

[Rooster]

No they would add other schools like TCU, Houston, Colorado State, Rice, Wichita State, Creighton.

Wichita State would be cool but they don't have a football team.

[DMAC]

Huh...I dont know what to say about this. ...And I guess I just needed to post that.

:facepalm:

[Frazod]

It sure will take the fun out of it.

It'll sure take a lot of the bullshit out of it. I'm sick having to wait until the last game of the season to play Kansas every friggin year.

[|Zach|]

No they would add other schools like TCU, Houston, Colorado State, Rice, Wichita State, Creighton.

You almost made a list of schools that all had football teams.

Almost.
ROFL

[Saulbadguy]

No they would add other schools like TCU, Houston, Colorado State, Rice, Wichita State, Creighton.

:facepalm:

[MoreLemonPledge]

If this is true, good for the Tigers. It sucks that we won't be seeing the KU-MU Arrowhead games anymore, or at least ones that mean anything.

[CoMoChief]

I'll believe it when I see it, but I sure this is true. And I hope it goes down sooner rather than later.

And assuming KU has the sack to play a real team on its non-conference schedule every year, the rivalry can remain intact.

ROFL......speaking of non-con scheduling do you think MU will still want to come to Allen Fieldhouse every season during bball season?

doubtful.

[Mr. Laz]

nah ... if MU goes to another conference then "laterz"

don't care if we ever play them again

[|Zach|]

ROFL......speaking of non-con scheduling do you think MU will still want to come to Allen Fieldhouse every season during bball season?

doubtful.

Probably not every season. Why would they agree to that? They would come every other season.

KU-MU would do one game a year.

[BigRedChief]

nah ... if MU goes to another conference then "laterz"

don't care if we ever play them againAll the conferences are changing. Better get used to it. I bet there is only 4 "major" conferences when the dust settles.

[dirk digler]

Let's hope so.

[nychief]

why wouldn't the big 10 take KU also? is it not up to snuff academically? or what? the big 12 is a sold its soul to texas schools long ago... you'd think KU would be sick of it too.

[|Zach|]

why wouldn't the big 10 take KU also? is it not up to snuff academically? or what? the big 12 is a sold its soul to texas schools long ago... you'd think KU would be sick of it too.

They don't offer as much.

[ROYC75]

Oh how wonderful, our non-conference just got weaker with games vs MU. :D

Going to miss the 2 games a year in basketball ....... kinda stinks with the rivals being conf. foes.

Can't say I blame them for the $$$.

[nychief]

They don't offer as much.

money or what? just curious.

[KurtCobain]

Here we go!

[|Zach|]

money or what? just curious.

Money...viewers...academic standing.

[Frazod]

Oh how wonderful, our non-conference just got weaker with games vs MU. :D

Going to miss the 2 games a year in basketball ....... kinda stinks with the rivals being conf. foes.

Can't say I blame them for the $$$.

Yeah, I guess you'll have to schedule that game against The Little Sisters Of The Poor as a scrimmage now. :)

[nychief]

Money...viewers...academic standing.


big 10 is far superior academic conference to the big 12...

[MoreLemonPledge]

why wouldn't the big 10 take KU also? is it not up to snuff academically? or what? the big 12 is a sold its soul to texas schools long ago... you'd think KU would be sick of it too.

MU offers two large TV markets in KC and St. Louis. That alone is better than what KU can offer.

[|Zach|]

big 10 is far superior academic conference to the big 12...

Yes. It is.

[Pushead2]

another punching bag for the Big 10 :)

[ROYC75]

Yeah, I guess you'll have to schedule that game against The Little Sisters Of The Poor as a scrimmage now. :)


You got that many relatives ?:eek:

[|Zach|]

another punching bag for the Big 10 :)

Yes. The Big 10 has been hammering Missouri in stuff...Illinois...Northwestern...Indiana...

[Pushead2]

I don't see why KU and MU won't still have their game......no different than ND and Michigan.

[Fairplay]

I hate to brag or boast but i just got an inside scoop on this!

I ran into Gary Pinkel at Bestbuy! I asked him, "Hey coach, is Mizzou going to the Big Ten dude?

He winked and smiled and let out a laugh just like Santa Claus on Christmas Eve and said "You betcha."

That is inside information, I had a source straight at the top!

[Pushead2]

I hate to brag or boast but i just got an inside scoop on this!

I ran into Gary Pinkel at Bestbuy! I asked him, "Hey coach, is Mizzou going to the Big Ten dude?

He winked and smiled and let out a laugh just like Santa Claus on Christmas Eve and said "You betcha."

That is inside information, I had a source straight at the top!

:eek:

[tyler360]

I hope this happens. It will do wonders for Mizzou money and recruiting

[KurtCobain]

I hate to brag or boast but i just got an inside scoop on this!

I ran into Gary Pinkel at Bestbuy! I asked him, "Hey coach, is Mizzou going to the Big Ten dude?

He winked and smiled and let out a laugh just like Santa Claus on Christmas Eve and said "You betcha."

That is inside information, I had a source straight at the top!

Really? Because I saw this guy at Radio Shack with Black and Gold shoes on, and I asked him the same question, and he fell to the floor and started shaking...:shake:

[ChiefMojo]

In reality all conferences are going to shake up in the near future. Just because Mizzou goes earlier than most doesn't mean much conference wise in the future. Probably within the next 5-10 years there are going to be 4-6 Super Conferences. How the cards lay is another question? What is funny is I bet you good Money KU will be in what was once the BIG 10 as well. The BIG 10 will likely reach 20 teams in time if I were to guess.

[blaise]

I saw some MU staff shopping at Wal Mart for a giant stencil to paint the Big 10 logo on their football field.

[ArrowheadHawk]

You almost made a list of schools that all had football teams.

Almost.
ROFL

Wichita State would be cool but they don't have a football team.

It's not a perfect list. Just listing D1 schools in the area. I'm sure there are a lot more that I didn't list.

[DaWolf]

So when does the "Big 10" learn how to count correctly?

[OmahaChief]

I hate to brag or boast but i just got an inside scoop on this!

I ran into Gary Pinkel at Bestbuy! I asked him, "Hey coach, is Mizzou going to the Big Ten dude?

He winked and smiled and let out a laugh just like Santa Claus on Christmas Eve and said "You betcha."

That is inside information, I had a source straight at the top!

Oh yeah......

Well I have a contact close to the program that sent me an email a few days ago that said this was going to happen. So how about some props to me. I think I will give a self high five.

[Valiant]

why wouldn't the big 10 take KU also? is it not up to snuff academically? or what? the big 12 is a sold its soul to texas schools long ago... you'd think KU would be sick of it too.

Honestly yeah.. It is basically opposite in academics as it is in basketball..

Basketball: KU destroys MU
academics: MU destroys KU

[kepp]

Well that totally kills the rivarly...

Nah...we always schedule creampuffs for our OOC schedule :p

[ArrowheadHawk]

Honestly yeah.. It is basically opposite in academics as it is in basketball..

Basketball: KU destroys MU
academics: MU destroys KUHow do you rate academics? Is there a top 25?

[Chiefs Pantalones]

If so I'm gonna miss beating up on them.

Tear.

[Valiant]

In reality all conferences are going to shake up in the near future. Just because Mizzou goes earlier than most doesn't mean much conference wise in the future. Probably within the next 5-10 years there are going to be 4-6 Super Conferences. How the cards lay is another question? What is funny is I bet you good Money KU will be in what was once the BIG 10 as well. The BIG 10 will likely reach 20 teams in time if I were to guess.

Yeah I agree with this..

[Brock]

Honestly yeah.. It is basically opposite in academics as it is in basketball..

Basketball: KU destroys MU
academics: MU destroys KU

ROFL Riiiiight.

[keg in kc]

Hey, keeping the Kansas/Missouri rivalry going shouldn't be a problem. They've kept the Michigan/Ohio State one going, and Michigan hasn't played football at the Big 10 level for years.

[/rimshot]

[nychief]

How do you rate academics? Is there a top 25?

lets be honest, KU is for retards academically.

[|Zach|]

ROFL Riiiiight.

It wasn't that long ago all you had to do was graduate from HS in the state of Kansas to get into KU.

[ArrowheadHawk]

lets be honest, KU is for retards academically.So when you graduate from KU Med they don't call you a Doctor?Or if you graduate from KU Law they don't call you a Lawyer? Seems to me like the degrees count the same. I mean we are comparing Harvard and Yale here.

[Brock]

It wasn't that long ago all you had to do was graduate from HS in the state of Kansas to get into KU.

Which means nothing.

[kepp]

So when you graduate from KU Med they don't call you a Doctor?

I believe the word for it down there is, "el doctoro".

[ROYC75]

It wasn't that long ago all you had to do was graduate from HS in the state of Kansas to get into KU.

MU still accepts elementary students so who's standards are lower ?

FTR, MU will get killed in the B10 in football for sometime, you'll be the whipping post . Basketball, they might do alright, I said might. Anderson is a good coach, it will help him recruit better players now.

[keg in kc]

FTR, MU will get killed in the B10 in football for sometime, you'll be the whipping post .How they'll be in 2012 or whenever the move happens I can't say, but I think they'd be in the top half of the big 10 if they started playing games this fall.

This is coming from a Michigan fan, not a Missouri fan.

[bowener]

It sure will take the fun out of it.

Not really. Now they can finagle ways to play each other in shitty bowl games.

[|Zach|]

MU still accepts elementary students so who's standards are lower ?

FTR, MU will get killed in the B10 in football for sometime, you'll be the whipping post . Basketball, they might do alright, I said might. Anderson is a good coach, it will help him recruit better players now.

I disagree.

Where do you think they rank in the Big 10 in football.

[kepp]

FTR, MU will get killed in the B10 in football for sometime, you'll be the whipping post . Basketball, they might do alright, I said might. Anderson is a good coach, it will help him recruit better players now.

I bet our defense will rank higher though. The Big10 is more of a power/old school football conference as opposed to the pass-happy Big12.

[|Zach|]

Which means nothing.

Yes. That means nothing for academics. Admissions. Ok.

Thanks for playing.

[DJ's left nut]

Wait...Texas might be coming, too?

That kinda takes some of the starch out of it. I was looking forward to the asshole longhorns left behind trying to hold together the remaining shards of the conference they did such a thorough job of dismantling. Kinda sucks that they get to come in, !@#$ up the Big 8, chase out some of the older members then hop off the sinking ship.

Oh well, I still look forward to the chance to shut up some stodgy assholes in the Big 10(ish).

[ArrowheadHawk]

Missouri isn't even listed as one of the best 371 Colleges.

http://www.princetonreview.com/rankingsbest.aspx

[kepp]

Missouri isn't even listed as one of the best 371 Colleges.

http://www.princetonreview.com/rankingsbest.aspx

Pfffft...what does Princeton know.

[kchero]

Well if this move goes down it only benefits Mizzou (as well as it's sister schools including UMKC) from an academic and financial standpoint. I am just concerned that these conferance tournament games in BBall and the occasional championship in football will dissappear from KC being since St. Louis, Chicago, Indy, would all be geographically better options, etc.

[Mr. Laz]

http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2008/0519/030_2.html


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[ROYC75]

Bottom line is really has to do with the dollars and academics that MU can get.

Just will seem odd no MU in the conference ...... refreshing in some ways but very odd.

[Fritz88]

It's a good move for Mizzou. I don't think the KU riviraly will be effected. I'm sure Missouri made part of the deal to join that they have to be able to schedule KU in football and basketball.

I like.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Yes!

[veist]

Wait...Texas might be coming, too?

That kinda takes some of the starch out of it. I was looking forward to the asshole longhorns left behind trying to hold together the remaining shards of the conference they did such a thorough job of dismantling. Kinda sucks that they get to come in, !@#$ up the Big 8, chase out some of the older members then hop off the sinking ship.

Oh well, I still look forward to the chance to shut up some stodgy assholes in the Big 10(ish).

Personally I doubt Texas is that interested in moving to the Big Ten, any noise they make about it is probably aimed at them getting to throw their weight around more in the Big 12. I just don't see them wanting to give up their sweet gig as big fish in the small pond that they are in the Big 12 to become just another school in the Big Ten.

As far as the money they just broke down some estimates fairly recently on this blog (http://frankthetank.wordpress.com/) about what schools would represent in revenue for the Big Ten and their estimate actually put Kansas at about a a half mil more in revenue than Missouri both at around $46M. Texas is obviously the jewel money wise they probably represent an easy $100M in new revenue. The media markets matter but not as much as you would think since they make about 60% of their BTN revenue off of advertising so increasing the inventory of games is going to be money in the bank regardless.

[ROYC75]

I disagree.

Where do you think they rank in the Big 10 in football.

At best, middle of the pack for now, in time, maybe recruiting will pick up.

B10 is power ball and MU is spread offense...... B10 teams will power you and control the clock, you better be able to win at the end of many games.

[ChiefsCountry]

If Mizzou, Colorado, and Texas are gone then you know its going to be 4 Super Conferences left.

[ChiefsCountry]

At best, middle of the pack for now, in time, maybe recruiting will pick up.

B10 is power ball and MU is spread offense...... B10 teams will power you and control the clock, you better be able to win at the end of many games.

Mizzou will be playing Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota, Northwestern and Wisconsin each year. I don't think Mizzou will be in the middle of pack in that group.

[|Zach|]

Mizzou will be playing Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota, Northwestern and Wisconsin each year. I don't think Mizzou will be in the middle of pack in that group.

Exactly. Unless Mizzou being middle of the pack is getting KILLED! lol

[Brock]

Yes. That means nothing for academics. Admissions. Ok.

Thanks for playing.

Can you present facts, or is this just another false narrative from MU fan?

[kchero]

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If you go by strictly public school rankings Mizzou's CCAP rank is 13 in the country

http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2008/0519/030_4.html

[ROYC75]

Mizzou will be playing Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota, Northwestern and Wisconsin each year. I don't think Mizzou will be in the middle of pack in that group.

Illinois beats you often, Iowa would do so likely, Northwestern & Wisconsin has been known to field good teams at times. So out of those, yes, Middle would be likely. Plus you figure in the rest of the B10 + 1 and whoever else they chose to select for expansion.

But thanks for playing along.

[BigMeatballDave]

Well that totally kills the rivarly...No it doesn't. They can still schedule a non-conference game. MU and Illinois have been doing it for yrs.

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[Silock]

academics: MU destroys KU

Based upon what criteria?

I don't think this is true at all, but I'm willing to hear your facts if you have any.

[BigMeatballDave]

Hey, keeping the Kansas/Missouri rivalry going shouldn't be a problem. They've kept the Michigan/Ohio State one going, and Michigan hasn't played football at the Big 10 level for years.

[/rimshot]LMAO

[ChiefsCountry]

Illinois beats you often, Iowa would do so likely, Northwestern & Wisconsin has been known to field good teams at times. So out of those, yes, Middle would be likely. Plus you figure in the rest of the B10 + 1 and whoever else they chose to select for expansion.But thanks for playing along.

Illinois hasn't beat Mizzou since the early 90s. Mizzou would be fine in the Big Ten football wise.
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[Mr. Laz]

If you go by strictly public school rankings Mizzou's CCAP rank is 13 in the country

http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2008/0519/030_4.html
yea, and everyone else's rankings go up too if you eliminate private.

KU is 22 for ccap public

:shrug:

In fact in the USNWR ranking KU is actually ranked 4 spots higher than MU
KU 38
MU 42
Rank

[Brock]

The big 10 ain't what it used to be, that's for sure.

[Mr. Laz]

Based upon what criteria?

I don't think this is true at all, but I'm willing to hear your facts if you have any.
MU is ranked higher than KU but it's hardly "destroy"

[KcMizzou]

Illinois hasn't beat Mizzou since the early 90s. Mizzou would be fine in the Big Ten football wise.
Posted via Mobile DeviceLol... yeah. Looking at the series history, Illinois last won in 1994. And they've beat Mizzou a total of three times since 1978.

I guess you could call that "often".

[KChiefs1]

Well that totally kills the rivarly...

Never!:D

[KChiefs1]

It sure will take the fun out of it.

Not a chance!

MU vs KU at Arrowhead will be a huge moneymaker for both teams & KC.
MU vs KU at the Sprint Center will be a huge moneymaker for both teams & KC.

Big 10 vs Big 12 will make KC ground zero.

I think will make it even more fun.:)

[FloridaMan88]

It is amazing the Big 12 with all of its on the field success in college football and college basketball has settled for such a terrible TV contract.

[Frazod]

Illinois beats you often, Iowa would do so likely, Northwestern & Wisconsin has been known to field good teams at times. So out of those, yes, Middle would be likely. Plus you figure in the rest of the B10 + 1 and whoever else they chose to select for expansion.

But thanks for playing along.

Illinois beats us often? Maybe in basketball (although that's changed), but in football, they've been our bitch for years, and that's all I personally care about. There are no programs in the Big 10 on the level of Texas or Oklahoma. Missouri instantly becomes a top level team if they switch.

Your butthurt has been strong throughout the course of this thread. Maybe you should take something for that.

[SPATCH]

Illinois beats you often, Iowa would do so likely, Northwestern & Wisconsin has been known to field good teams at times. So out of those, yes, Middle would be likely. Plus you figure in the rest of the B10 + 1 and whoever else they chose to select for expansion.

But thanks for playing along.

Bitch you're trippin

[Demonpenz]

good, never play OK again

[KcMizzou]

Bitch you're trippinLMAO

You summed that up nicely.

[KChiefs1]

MU will get killed in the B10 in football for sometime, you'll be the whipping post . Basketball, they might do alright, I said might. Anderson is a good coach, it will help him recruit better players now.

Pinkel has never lost to Illinois during their series. lllinois won the Big Ten the year MU destroyed them. MU beat Northwestern in the Alamo Bowl too. I don't think the Big Ten can field a team the likes of OU or UT. I'd feel very confident that Mizzou could field a very competitive team in the Big Ten. I've always though MU & Iowa were very comparable in regards to football programs.

[Extra Point]

MU: Little fish in a Big 10 pond. Yeah, it shows you how stupid the NCAA is, when 16=10.

Please, MU, stay in the Big 12. Get the conference a new TV contract, and if TX wants out, then so be it. I'd like to see WSU take your f'in place!

[Ebolapox]

MU still accepts elementary students so who's standards are lower ?

FTR, MU will get killed in the B10 in football for sometime, you'll be the whipping post . Basketball, they might do alright, I said might. Anderson is a good coach, it will help him recruit better players now.

"whose" not 'who's'

here's a little activity: say the contraction out loud to see whether it's (it is) correct. see what I did there? to see if it is correct=to see if it's correct.

:)

[kchero]

yea, and everyone else's rankings go up too if you eliminate private.

KU is 22 for ccap public

:shrug:

In fact in the USNWR ranking KU is actually ranked 4 spots higher than MU
KU 38
MU 42
Rank

Really....no sh*t...I am just making a point about public institutions.

[kchero]

MU: Little fish in a Big 10 pond. Yeah, it shows you how stupid the NCAA is, when 16=10.

Please, MU, stay in the Big 12. Get the conference a new TV contract, and if TX wants out, then so be it. I'd like to see WSU take your f'in place!

Yea personally Id rather go back to the old Big 8 days, but it looks like that wont ever happen. Conferences are being swallowed up.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Illinois beats you often, Iowa would do so likely, Northwestern & Wisconsin has been known to field good teams at times. So out of those, yes, Middle would be likely. Plus you figure in the rest of the B10 + 1 and whoever else they chose to select for expansion.

But thanks for playing along.I get that you don't understand stuff. What I don't understand is how you can claim that Illinois beats MU often. I mean, that is downright insane.

[Pitt Gorilla]

MU: Little fish in a Big 10 pond. Yeah, it shows you how stupid the NCAA is, when 16=10.

Please, MU, stay in the Big 12. Get the conference a new TV contract, and if TX wants out, then so be it. I'd like to see WSU take your f'in place!WSU is a joke. Nobody is going to take a non-football school.

[HemiEd]

Bye. They have proven they won't ever win anything in the Big 12, good luck.

[DaneMcCloud]

Maybe they can get Colorado State to replace them.

They suck at basketball, too.

:D

[ChiefsNWildcats]

MU: Little fish in a Big 10 pond. Yeah, it shows you how stupid the NCAA is, when 16=10.

Please, MU, stay in the Big 12. Get the conference a new TV contract, and if TX wants out, then so be it. I'd like to see WSU take your f'in place!

No way man, as a Cat fan I want Texas right where they are.

I would put a big sh#t eating grin here, but my messageboard skills are terrible.

[Titty Meat]

See ya fags.

[Titty Meat]

I'll miss the days where the handful of Husker fans would go aginst the majority of the board who are tiger fans and my near bannable offenses. That was epic.

[Frazod]

See ya fags.

Even if we go it probably won't be for another year. Now that Sue is gone you'll go back to being our red-assed bitches.

[KcMizzou]

It's interesting how for years it was, "You wish. The Big 10 would never take Mizzou."

And now that it looks pretty likely, it's all "You can't compete in the Big Ten" and "See ya fags" LMAO

If it happens, it's because the move makes too much sense to pass up. You wanna blame someone, blame the Big XII for fucking up when they had the chance to share equally among teams, and have a TV deal like the Big Ten Network.

Lots of sour grapes in this thread.

[ChiefsCountry]

If the Big Ten goes to 16, Nebraska is probablly joining Mizzou in going.

[Titty Meat]

Even if we go it probably won't be for another year. Now that Sue is gone you'll go back to being our red-assed bitches.

We both know that isn't true.

[Coach]

Last time I heard a "done deal", Nick Athan got his ass flamed for it big time.
Posted via Mobile Device

[Bugeater]

See ya pillowbiters.
As much as they've been a thorn in NU's ass in recent years, I still think we're better off with them staying. The north needs all the credibility it can get and there isn't a another program of that caliber that makes sense geographically to take their place.

[Frazod]

We both know that isn't true.

Please. Suh won that last game basically by himself, mainly by fucking up Gabbert's ankle.

[Bugeater]

If the Big Ten goes to 16, Nebraska is probablly joining Mizzou in going.
Now THAT would be epic.

[Titty Meat]

As much as they've been a thorn in NU's ass in recent years, I still think we're better off with them staying. The north needs all the credibility it can get and there isn't a another program of that caliber that makes sense geographically to take their place.

I enjoy playing Mizzou I wish they wouldn't leave.

[RustShack]

If the Big Ten goes to 16, Nebraska is probablly joining Mizzou in going.

Don't forget Iowa State!

[Titty Meat]

Please. Suh won that last game basically by himself, mainly by ****ing up Gabbert's ankle.

Suh certainly helped but Nebraskas secondary was very underrated group they made plays all year. Plus thats one game were there offense actually a good Quarter.

[KcMizzou]

As much as they've been a thorn in NU's ass in recent years, I still think we're better off with them staying. The north needs all the credibility it can get and there isn't a another program of that caliber that makes sense geographically to take their place.I'd love for the Big XII to stick together, and enjoy the kind of success the Big Ten has...

But at this point it seems like that ship has sailed. And the people in charge of the Big XII don't even seem to want to do anything to fix it if they could.

We wouldn't want to upset Texas.

[kchero]

It's interesting how for years it was, "You wish. The Big 10 would never take Mizzou."

And now that it looks pretty likely, it's all "You can't compete in the Big Ten" and "See ya pillowbiters" LMAO

If it happens, it's because the move makes too much sense to pass up. You wanna blame someone, blame the Big XII for ****ing up when they had the chance to share equally among teams, and have a TV deal like the Big Ten Network.

Lots of sour grapes in this thread.

Im the same as you...I don't want to leave the Big 12, but they have clearly demonstrated that they cant get their sh*t together. Its nothing personal, its just that alot of Mizzou fans are tired of the Texas BS that goes on with the economics of this league.
I don't know if Nebraska is affected as much as MU, KU, KSU and ISU are by the current finances of the Big 12, but I am sure there are a lot of fans of all these teams that are fed up with the current system in place within the Big 12.

[ChiefsCountry]

Now THAT would be epic.

More than likely KU as well along with Syracuse and Pittsburgh.

[Bugeater]

Please. Suh won that last game basically by himself, mainly by ****ing up Gabbert's ankle.
http://i40.tinypic.com/9tfjiq.jpg

[kchero]

Now THAT would be epic.

I have seen a lot of talk that Nebraska and MU going to the Big 10 if they expand to 14 or 16 teams.... I wouldn't mind it one bit. It would be epic lol.

[Bugeater]

Im the same as you...I don't want to leave the Big 12, but they have clearly demonstrated that they cant get their sh*t together. Its nothing personal, its just that alot of Mizzou fans are tired of the Texas BS that goes on with the economics of this league.
I don't know if Nebraska is affected as much as MU, KU, KSU and ISU are by the current finances of the Big 12, but I am sure there are a lot of fans of all these teams that are fed up with the current system in place within the Big 12.
Dude. Let me assure you the displeasure with the Big XII is strong in Nebraska. Tom Osborne retired because he saw the shit coming.

[Frazod]

http://i40.tinypic.com/9tfjiq.jpg

Dick. LMAO

[POND_OF_RED]

Don't forget Iowa State!

I think everyone already has. I think the Larry Eustachy fiasco is the last thing people outside of Iowa remember about that school. ROFLROFLROFL

[Spott]

I wouldn't mind if they leave, but Texas can stay where they are now that they've ruined the old Big 8.

[kchero]

Dude. Let me assure you the displeasure with the Big XII is strong in Nebraska. Tom Osborne retired because he saw the shit coming.

Nice, the more the merrier... I have read some articles (for what it is worth) that have Nebraska in the talks. I dont know if I feel that MU is a "lock" to be picked up by the Big 10 like some have said, but with the football tradition that Nebraska brings I think that they are in the equation for sure.

[kchero]

http://i40.tinypic.com/9tfjiq.jpg

Damn I have never seen a snapshot of this sack...that ankle is flattened by Suh....Im shocked Gabbert was able to walk after that.

[KChiefs1]

http://i40.tinypic.com/9tfjiq.jpg

That's the play that basically screwed Mizzou's year up. :cuss:

[ChiefsCountry]

http://i40.tinypic.com/9tfjiq.jpg

That play changed two teams seasons and Suh's future as well.

[KcMizzou]

Nice, the more the merrier... I have read some articles (for what it is worth) that have Nebraska in the talks. I dont know if I feel that MU is a "lock" to be picked up by the Big 10 like some have said, but with the football tradition that Nebraska brings I think that they are in the equation for sure.I don't know that Mizzou's a "lock" either, but they're one of the teams that's brought up every single time the idea of expansion in the Big 10 is mentioned.

I wouldn't mind seeing Nebraska come along either. I don't know about their academics, and I'm sure their market brings a lot less viewers... but that football program seems like a natural fit.

[Titty Meat]

Heres what Danario did when he saw that

[KcMizzou]

That's the play that basically screwed Mizzou's year up. :cuss:Yep.

It hurt much more than just that game.

[kchero]

I don't know that Mizzou's a "lock" either, but they're one of the teams that's brought up every single time the idea of expansion in the Big 10 is mentioned.

I wouldn't mind seeing Nebraska come along either. I don't know about their academics, and I'm sure their market brings a lot less viewers... but that football program seems like a natural fit.

Im with you, I feel MU offers alot, academics, a stranglehold on St. Louis and then KC (as well as the rest of Missouri) and a respectable athletic department.
Like you said Nebraska's football program seems like a total fit for the Big 10, and there isnt much of a market to be gained, but NU following is pretty significant.
I hear this talk of Pittsburg, Rutgers and Syracuse... Personally I do not see Pittsburg fitting in because they already have Penn State. I can see Syracuse and/or Rutgers because of the whole New York market thing...so hypothetically they probably can't get ND for obvious reasons so if they took MU, Rutgers, and Syracuse that would make it an even 14 or they would have to go the other route and take Rutgers or Syracuse and then probably 2 Big 12 teams (ie MU and Nebraska).
I know this is captain obvious stuff here, but it is interesting to think of the possibilites.

[KcMizzou]

Heres what Danario did when he saw thatIt irritates the shit out of me that you enjoy it so much.

But, at least it was a clean play. Can't blame Suh... it's football, shit happens. I'm looking forward to a healthy Gabbert this season. Let's see what the kid can do.

[DaneMcCloud]

Whenever I think of the words "MU" and "Basketball", I think of the word "Ty".

:D

[KcMizzou]

Whenever I think of the words "MU" and "Basketball", I think of the word "Ty".

:DBurn in hell, Beaker!

[ChiefsCountry]

Whenever I think of the words "MU" and "Basketball", I think of the word "Ty".

:D

Well not signing Tyron Lue was one of the downfalls of Norm, that and Cookie Belcher, Chris Carrawell, Derek Hood, and Loren Woods.

[Bugeater]

It irritates the shit out of me that you enjoy it so much.

But, at least it was a clean play. Can't blame Suh... it's football, shit happens. I'm looking forward to a healthy Gabbert this season. Let's see what the kid can do.
Oh hell, we had that moment coming after getting butt-raped by you guys four out of the previous six meetings.

And honestly, I never really got to enjoy it fully because going into the 4th qtr of the game I was so thoroughly disgusted with how NU was playing. All it did at the time was temper my rage a little bit.

[kchero]

Oh hell, we had that moment coming after getting butt-raped by you guys four out of the previous six meetings.

And honestly, I never really got to enjoy it fully because going into the 4th qtr of the game I was so thoroughly disgusted with how NU was playing. All it did at the time was temper my rage a little bit.

Yea, my wife is from Lincoln and a UNL graduate and I was giving her hell the whole game with my brother...just teasing her, etc. and well did I ever look stupid after the 4th quater rolled around...major crow was ate and my sh*t talking days were over.

[DaneMcCloud]

Well not signing Tyron Lue was one of the downfalls of Norm, that and Cookie Belcher, Chris Carrawell, Derek Hood, and Loren Woods.

I think you know of whom I speak.

:D

Actually, I'm a fan of Mizzou because I lived in Missouri for 6 years as a youngster. I'll never forget standing in front of my 19" RCA TV watching Tyus Edney score the final two points to beat UCLA.

You can probably only imagine how I felt a year when Ty called our shithole apartment to give us tickets to a Lakers-Kings game a year later because my girlfriend (now wife) was friends with him in college.

[KcMizzou]

I think you know of whom I speak.

:D

Actually, I'm a fan of Mizzou because I lived in Missouri for 6 years as a youngster. I'll never forget standing in front of my 19" RCA TV watching Tyus Edney score the final two points to beat Mizzou.

You can probably only imagine how I felt a year when Ty called our shithole apartment to give us tickets to a Lakers-Kings game a year later because my girlfriend (now wife) was friends with him in college.FYP

I stand by my post.

[Titty Meat]

It irritates the shit out of me that you enjoy it so much.

But, at least it was a clean play. Can't blame Suh... it's football, shit happens. I'm looking forward to a healthy Gabbert this season. Let's see what the kid can do.

LOL please I was pissed when Zach posted that stupid tiger mascot crying next to the scoreboard. We all talked shit for months and like Bug said Nebraska played so shitty I didn't get to enjoy it as much. Infact I tried to delete my account on here at halftime of the game.

[DaneMcCloud]

FYP

I stand by my post.

Oh yeah, duh.

UCLA on the brain (well, the beers probably contributed).

And for the record, I support all of the "local" teams.

Living in Pac-10 country sucks ass.

Well, except for the chicks and the weather.

:D

[KcMizzou]

Whenever I think of the words "MU" and "Basketball", I think of the word "Ty".

:DIf you're really a Mizzou fan, watch the basketball team next season. Things are getting better.

Maybe you can push that name a little farther from your mind...lol Hell, we were in the Elite Eight again just the season before last.

[KcMizzou]

LOL please I was pissed when Zach posted that stupid tiger mascot crying next to the scoreboard. We all talked shit for months and like Bug said Nebraska played so shitty I didn't get to enjoy it as much. Infact I tried to delete my account on here at halftime of the game.Eh, take heart, Sam Hall gave up watching football. That didn't stick either. :)

[Bugeater]

LOL please I was pissed when Zach posted that stupid tiger mascot crying next to the scoreboard. We all talked shit for months and like Bug said Nebraska played so shitty I didn't get to enjoy it as much. Infact I tried to delete my account on here at halftime of the game.
ROFL

[Titty Meat]

I wonder how many different women Dane has a sextape with.

[Bugeater]

I wondering how many different women Dane has a sextape with.
All of them.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Huh. Maybe a Mizzou vs. UW Rose Bowl sometime in the future.

[DaneMcCloud]

If you're really a Mizzou fan, watch the basketball team next season. Things are getting better.

Maybe you can push that name a little farther from your mind...lol Hell, we were in the Elite Eight again just the season before last.

I'm a fan when teams from my hometown area do well, whether it's Missouri, Kansas, K-State and Nebraska.

I never got into Oklahoma or Iowa in my 27 years in the KC area. It's hard for me to root for either.

I'll watch the games, if they're broadcast. That's always the issue out here in Sac-Ten country.

[DaneMcCloud]

All of them.

LMAO

[|Zach|]

Can you present facts, or is this just another false narrative from MU fan?

http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2006/oct/23/provost_discussing_raising_bar_admissions/

The basic admissions requirements are the same at all Kansas Regents institutions. The state in 1996 passed a qualified admissions law - setting the new bar for students effective in 2001. The measure also left room for 10 percent of each school's freshman class to be admitted without meeting those standards. The exemptions are only for Kansas residents.

The qualified admissions law came only after years of debate. Since 1915, Kansas schools had offered open admission to high school graduates. Parting from that tradition wasn't easy.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Theoretically, let's say the Big 10 takes MU and Nebraska. Problem solved. They are joining the new Big XII, and the rest of you guys can be called the Big 10. It'd make total sense.

[buddha]

Mizzou is a done deal for the Big 10, but it's in both MU's and KU's best interest to keep the series alive. Therefore it will continue...in football and basketball. KU fans, this shouldn't be what concerns you. Finding a seat when the music stops should be at the top of your priority list right now, I would think. The PAC 10 isn't mentioning KU right now, but they are thinking about UT and A&M and OU.

KU and the various "State" schools (okie, iowa, ks) will likely land in some version of the WAC.

[MoreLemonPledge]

Theoretically, let's say the Big 10 takes MU and Nebraska. Problem solved. They are joining the new Big XII, and the rest of you guys can be called the Big 10. It'd make total sense.

I think it will stay the Big 10 no matter how many schools they take. The brand is already there, and I doubt they want to go to the trouble of changing that, especially since they have a television network.

[salame]

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/unc/sports/m-footbl/auto_action/2514179.jpeg

[veist]

Mizzou is a done deal for the Big 10, but it's in both MU's and KU's best interest to keep the series alive. Therefore it will continue...in football and basketball. KU fans, this shouldn't be what concerns you. Finding a seat when the music stops should be at the top of your priority list right now, I would think. The PAC 10 isn't mentioning KU right now, but they are thinking about UT and A&M and OU.

KU and the various "State" schools (okie, iowa, ks) will likely land in some version of the WAC.

Not really, if this goes down like everyone seems to think and the Big Ten adds three schools or whatever its going to set off a feeding frenzy and one of the new superconferences is going to go "OM NOM NOM" to the big pile of cash that KU's basketball game inventory represents. None of this is going to happen in a vacuum, Big Ten raids a couple conferences for teams and they're all going to respond.

[POND_OF_RED]

Theoretically, let's say the Big 10 takes MU and Nebraska. Problem solved. They are joining the new Big XII, and the rest of you guys can be called the Big 10. It'd make total sense.

It's actually been the Big 11 since 1990 when Penn State joined. If they add 2 more it just becomes harder to incorporate into the logo. At first glance no one ever even notices the 11 in the middle of the thing.
http://seahawknationblog.com/files/2009/08/BigTenLogo.jpg

[Bugeater]

It's actually been the Big 11 since 1990 when Penn State joined. If they add 2 more it just becomes harder to incorporate into the logo. At first glance no one ever even notices the 11 in the middle of the thing.
http://seahawknationblog.com/files/2009/08/BigTenLogo.jpg
Holy shit, I have never noticed that before.

[Brock]

http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2006/oct/23/provost_discussing_raising_bar_admissions/

The basic admissions requirements are the same at all Kansas Regents institutions. The state in 1996 passed a qualified admissions law - setting the new bar for students effective in 2001. The measure also left room for 10 percent of each school's freshman class to be admitted without meeting those standards. The exemptions are only for Kansas residents.

The qualified admissions law came only after years of debate. Since 1915, Kansas schools had offered open admission to high school graduates. Parting from that tradition wasn't easy.

Where's the part about the conclusion you drew from that? That's the part I was asking about, which I'm sure you knew.

[Swanman]

I don't know that Mizzou's a "lock" either, but they're one of the teams that's brought up every single time the idea of expansion in the Big 10 is mentioned.

I wouldn't mind seeing Nebraska come along either. I don't know about their academics, and I'm sure their market brings a lot less viewers... but that football program seems like a natural fit.

MU and Notre Dame are the two schools always mentioned, ever since I was a freshman at Illinois in '98. I think Notre Dame has actually been offered a few times and refused due to their sweet financial deal with football (mainly not having to share any bowl revenue). Now they are a little more willing to listen. It seems the Big 10 will start with Mizzou and ND and then expand out from there, ultimately reaching 14 or 16 teams.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

It's actually been the Big 11 since 1990 when Penn State joined. If they add 2 more it just becomes harder to incorporate into the logo. At first glance no one ever even notices the 11 in the middle of the thing.
http://seahawknationblog.com/files/2009/08/BigTenLogo.jpg

Wow. I'd never seen that before either.

[Reaper16]

"Once you see it, you'll shit bricks."

[DJ's left nut]

Holy shit, I have never noticed that before.

You've noticed the Fed-Ex arrow, right?

http://thekopykorner.com/images/FED%20EX%20logo.jpg

[ROYC75]

Illinois beats us often? Maybe in basketball (although that's changed), but in football, they've been our bitch for years, and that's all I personally care about. There are no programs in the Big 10 on the level of Texas or Oklahoma. Missouri instantly becomes a top level team if they switch.

Your butthurt has been strong throughout the course of this thread. Maybe you should take something for that.


I stand corrected , it is in basketball 9 - 20 and football 14 - 7.

Still, your venture in the B10 football will not be easy.

Enjoy it.

Butthurt, hardly, But thanks for the laugh.

[HolyHandgernade]

I apologize if I restate something someone else has already pointed out, but I got bored with the back and forth.

Saying one school is academically "superior" is a subjective thing. What the Big 10 schools are are top reasearch universities which require certain types of facilities that KU doesn't have but MU does. This why their academic profile fits the Big 10 and KU's doesn't.

Texas isn't a serious player for the expanded Big 10. Texas already has "its own" conference. Texas is the richest athletics program in the nation and benefits from the weighted funds distribution the Big 12 offers that the Big 10, SEC, and PAC 10 don't. The net difference doesn't benefit Texas as much as it does a program like MU.

Texas (and OU) almost assure themselves a spot in the national title game playing a weaker field in the Big12 than in the Big10. I know, the Big12 has gotten better as of late. But, the lower level of the Big10 is better than the Big12 and thus has a better opportunity of pulling upsets.

Nebraska is a more likely candidate because of its football tradition. This talk is propelled by football and money, not basketball. MU gets consideration for their TV markets, NU gets consideration for their football. Any other teams will come from the east.

[Mr. Laz]

610SportsKC
Rumors that #Missouri (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23Missouri) is going to the Big Ten- Coverage now on New School !!! via web twitter
610 spies in da houze!!

[Sure-Oz]

A columbia news station had it as a done deal but it hasn't been confirmed so they pulled it. It sounds like this will happen i just really hope we get to play KU still

[BigRedChief]

Texas already owns the Big 12, why would they leave?

[Mr. Laz]

A columbia news station had it as a done deal but it hasn't been confirmed so they pulled it. It sounds like this will happen i just really hope we get to play KU still
get stuffed ... you leave the Big 12 then you lose the privilege of playing KU.

[Sure-Oz]

get stuffed ... you leave the Big 12 then you lose the privilege of playing KU.

:LOL:

[Mr. Laz]

:LOL::D

[ROYC75]

Come on now, MU is just looking for a way to improve their OOC rating. :D

[Shag]

I grew up an MU fan, but went to Iowa State, which caused some issues in my fandom. As much as I hate the Big 10, MU going there would make me feel better about rooting for them, lol...

[ROYC75]

The question is if MU leaves, who does the B12 pick up to replace a Tigger, shouldn't be hard to do .

[Titty Meat]

Looks like Nebraska will also take the call.


http://www.huskermax.com/vbbs/showthread.php?1335-If-the-Big-Ten-wants-to-make-a-ton-of-TV-money-it-will-invite-Nebraska-GREAT-READ!


And if college sports is all about football

Football Expenses / Revenues in millions (2007-2008)
1. University of Texas: $20.0 / $72.9
2. Texas A&M: $19.1 / $42.6
3. University of Nebraska: $18.9 / $49.1
4. University of Oklahoma: $18.9 / $40.9
5. Oklahoma State University: $15.5 / $23.1
6. University of Kansas: $13.9 / $14.8
7. University of Colorado: $13.9 / $28.8
8. Texas Tech: $12.7 / $20.2
9. Baylor University: $11.4 / $11.1
10. University of Missouri: $10.6 / $19.3
11. Kansas State University: $10.4 / $21.9
12. Iowa State University: $9.8 / $17.4


Athletic Department Budgets in Millions (2010)
1. University of Texas: $129.9
2. University of Oklahoma: $80.7
3. University of Nebraska: $74.3
4. Texas A&M: $68.7
5. University of Kansas: $61.1
6. Texas Tech: $54.3
7. University of Missouri: $49.9
8. Oklahoma State University: $49.6
9. University of Colorado: $46.6
10. Baylor University: $45.1
11. Kansas State University: $44.4
12. Iowa State University: $43.3


Television Revenues in millions (2007-2008)
1. University of Texas: $10.2
2. University of Oklahoma: $9.8
3. University of Kansas: $9.2
4. Texas A&M: $9.2
5. University of Nebraska: $9.1
6. University of Missouri: $8.4
7. Texas Tech: $8.2
8. Kansas State University: $8.2
9. Oklahoma State University: $8.1
10. University of Colorado: $8.0
11. Iowa State University: $7.4
12. Baylor University: $7.1

[Titty Meat]

Let's go Mizzou fans. Let's get out of this bullshit league.

[ROYC75]

All this talk is crazy. Nebraska has a lot of $$$. Texas does too.

Crap, just combine the B10 & B12, add 1 more, Call it the MAC 24 !

Good Grief.

[kepp]

The question is if MU leaves, who does the B12 pick up to replace a Tigger, shouldn't be hard to do .

I don't know. In today's political climate you'd be hard-pressed to find a group willing to come and burn lawrence down - you know, to get the new rivalry kicked off properly.

[Frazod]

I don't know. In today's political climate you'd be hard-pressed to find a group willing to come and burn lawrence down - you know, to get the new rivalry kicked off properly.

I've always felt that should be an annual event.

[ROYC75]

I don't know. In today's political climate you'd be hard-pressed to find a group willing to come and burn lawrence down - you know, to get the new rivalry kicked off properly.


We done killed off all the Murons who were smart enough to know how to do that, where would the current Murons or rivals find one who is smart enough again ?

[salame]

http://www.rivalryrags.com/system/design/image/30/muck_fizzou.jpg

[Archie Bunker]

http://twitter.com/TomDienhart

Big Ten expansion buzz has league adding Mizzou, Nebraska, Pitt, Rutgers and Syracuse and splitting into four, four-team divisions.


.The Big Ten divisions: Syra, Pitt, Rut., Penn St.--Mich., Wisc., Mich. St., Mnn.--Ohio St., Pur., IU, Ill./North.--MU, Iowa, Neb., Ill./NU





I'd love butting heads with Iowa, Nebraska, and Illinois every year. Really hopes this happens.

[Saulbadguy]

It's a done deal. Fare well, Mizzou.

[kchero]

http://twitter.com/TomDienhart

Big Ten expansion buzz has league adding Mizzou, Nebraska, Pitt, Rutgers and Syracuse and splitting into four, four-team divisions.


.The Big Ten divisions: Syra, Pitt, Rut., Penn St.--Mich., Wisc., Mich. St., Mnn.--Ohio St., Pur., IU, Ill./North.--MU, Iowa, Neb., Ill./NU





I'd love butting heads with Iowa, Nebraska, and Illinois every year. Really hopes this happens.

That would be ridiculous....
If MU and Nebraska leave, the Big 12 North will be hurting something fearse...simple as that...It will be hard pressed for the Big 12 to add two more north teams that equate to the same level...especially if the Pac-10 is trying to pick up some new teams as well.

[keg in kc]

http://twitter.com/TomDienhart

Big Ten expansion buzz has league adding Mizzou, Nebraska, Pitt, Rutgers and Syracuse and splitting into four, four-team divisions. Nebraska I hadn't thought of, but it makes sense. The other teams I thought were shoe-ins all along.

Well, one more reason to hate the cornholers. Works for me.

[Mr. Laz]

KU needs to start looking for other opportunities right now ... you don't want to be caught without a chair when the music stops.

[kchero]

So is KU not an option because their research facilities are not up to grade with that of the big 10? I hear about how MU fits in academically with the Big 10, but whats the reasoning for KU?

[Pants]

So is KU not an option because their research facilities are not up to grade with that of the big 10? I hear about how MU fits in academically with the Big 10, but whats the reasoning for KU?

I'm assuming you meant to say "what's the reasoning for NU?" And the answer is Nebraska football.

[Saulbadguy]

Overall, Nebraska and Missouri have much more successful athletic departments than Kansas. They compete in more sports too.

[ROYC75]

MAC 24...... Have 4 divisions, Play within your division ( 10 ), one time out of your division..... 18 games in basketball.

Football can play within your division once ( 5 ) and alternate 1 game from each division for 9 league games.

Have your 4 divisions playoff for Conf. Champs.

[ROYC75]

B12 to B10 ? Who would move up out of the South ? OU ?
Split OU & Tx up ?

Pick up 2 teams ?

This is all crazy...........

[Saulbadguy]

I think we are seeing the beginning of the end, folks.

This is an anti-trust suit waiting to happen. The "have nots" of the BCS conferences are going to become mid-majors if something doesn't throw a wrench in to the works here.

[bowener]

http://twitter.com/TomDienhart

Big Ten expansion buzz has league adding Mizzou, Nebraska, Pitt, Rutgers and Syracuse and splitting into four, four-team divisions.


.The Big Ten divisions: Syra, Pitt, Rut., Penn St.--Mich., Wisc., Mich. St., Mnn.--Ohio St., Pur., IU, Ill./North.--MU, Iowa, Neb., Ill./NU





I'd love butting heads with Iowa, Nebraska, and Illinois every year. Really hopes this happens.

This is interesting.

So, would it be similar to what the NFL does currently within divisions?

Mizzou would play Ill, Neb, and Iowa each season, and at least 3 of the 4 from another one of the divisions within the conference? This would let them have at least 3 non conference teams on their schedules still.

Edit:

Now that I think about it, would they just hold a type of mini-tourney where the winners of each division play each other until there is a champion within the conference? I suppose the losers would play each other too for ticket sales, but not sure how they would do this unless they are allowed to change schedules of the teams within the conference as the season goes on to reflect their rank within the division. I'm not sure if that was clearly stated or not...

[kchero]

I'm assuming you meant to say "what's the reasoning for NU?" And the answer is Nebraska football.

No I am talking about KU. Has anyone stated the reasons why KU is not in the talk?

[kchero]

B12 to B10 ? Who would move up out of the South ? OU ?
Split OU & Tx up ?

Pick up 2 teams ?

This is all crazy...........

Agreed...so many things could happen.

[Archie Bunker]

Swiped this from Gabe over at powermizzou. His Super Conference guesses....

Hypothetical:

Big Ten:

Missouri
Nebraska
Illinois
Iowa
Indiana
Purdue
Northwestern
Ohio State
Michigan
Minnesota
Wisconsin
Michigan State
Penn State
Pitt
Rutgers
Syracuse

PAC 10
Oregon
Oregon State
Washington
Washington State
Cal
Stanford
USC
UCLA
Arizona
Arizona State
Texas
A&M
OU
Utah
Colorado
BYU

SEC
Florida
Auburn
Tennessee
Georgia
LSU
Vandy
Mississippi St
Ole Miss
Kentucky
Arkansas
Auburn
S. Carolina
Miami
Georgia Tech
Clemson
Florida State

ACC (or whatever it would be called)

UNC
NC State
Duke
Wake
V. Tech
Boston College
Maryland
Virginia
UCONN
Cincinnati
Louisville
W. Virginia
Kansas
Okie State
South Florida
Texas Tech

Who does that leave out? Baylor, Iowa State, Kansas State, Memphis, Boise State, TCU.

Again, just throwing some things out there. Who knows how it will all shake down. Just something to generate discussion. Clearly the teams that need to be most concerned are the "leftover" Big East and Big 12 schools that aren't a slam dunk for the Big Ten, SEC or PAC 10

[CoMoChief]

Dear NCAA,

Problem solved.

Sincerely,
CoMoChief

[Pants]

No I am talking about KU. Has anyone stated the reasons why KU is not in the talk?

Lack of a big TV market and research facilities is my guess. MU gives B10 all of St. Louis and half the KC. I know Saul said they have a much better Athletic Department, but that's not really the reason. Nobody gives a shit about college wrestling/soccer/etc and their BBall program sucks and FB is mediocre. This is really good for the school, though, so props to them.

[ROYC75]

Dear NCAA,

Problem solved.

Sincerely,
CoMoChief

Care to share this with us, I can't open it.

[Pants]

Care to share this with us, I can't open it.

You should be able to. It's .bmp file...

[chiefsnorth]

it would suck for KU to play in the ACC.

i hope this happens. it will bring more quality football into the Big (?) and it's good for an exile like me.
Posted via Mobile Device

[KC_Connection]

Sounds good. Without NU and MU in the North, KU will be going to the 'ship for sure.

[Frazod]

Sounds good. Without NU and MU in the North, KU will be going to the 'ship for sure.

If you mean the Big Whatever's Left Championship Game, I'm sure you will. Have fun being the Longhorns' chewtoy.

[Pants]

If B12 manages to get TCU and Utah in, I'd be very happy with the new conference. Going to the ACC would suck, SEC is cool, PAC-10 would suck due to travel.

[ROYC75]

You should be able to. It's .bmp file...

It wants to open it up with IE, my IE is screwed up.

[ArrowheadHawk]

It wants to open it up with IE, my IE is screwed up.http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/1337/73939538.png

[Sure-Oz]

It wants to open it up with IE, my IE is screwed up.

IE? get firefox

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

MU: Little fish in a Big 10 pond. Yeah, it shows you how stupid the NCAA is, when 16=10.

Please, MU, stay in the Big 12. Get the conference a new TV contract, and if TX wants out, then so be it. I'd like to see WSU take your f'in place!

Piss on you. We're leaving, and that's that. :p

It's interesting how for years it was, "You wish. The Big 10 would never take Mizzou."

And now that it looks pretty likely, it's all "You can't compete in the Big Ten" and "See ya fags" LMAO

If it happens, it's because the move makes too much sense to pass up. You wanna blame someone, blame the Big XII for fucking up when they had the chance to share equally among teams, and have a TV deal like the Big Ten Network.

Lots of sour grapes in this thread.

I love it; our University is "moving on up" like George and Weezy, and these scrub sons o' bitches want us to stay in Queens.

Fuck you, Queens.:evil:

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

If you mean the Big Whatever's Left Championship Game, I'm sure you will. Have fun being the Longhorns' chewtoy.

Holy Shit! LMAO

[Titty Meat]

Whos sour about this? Fuck the Big Tweleve.

[KChiefs1]

KU in the ACC would be interesting.

KU vs UNC would be great entertainment in basketball...not so much in football.

[KC_Connection]

If you mean the Big Whatever's Left Championship Game, I'm sure you will. Have fun being the Longhorns' chewtoy.
At least we'll always have basketball (and the Orange Bowl, bitches!).

[ChiefsCountry]

From some sources, I have heard that K-State is the biggest block in KU not going to the Big Ten. State government won't let the two seperate.

[Bugeater]

http://twitter.com/TomDienhart

Big Ten expansion buzz has league adding Mizzou, Nebraska, Pitt, Rutgers and Syracuse and splitting into four, four-team divisions.


.The Big Ten divisions: Syra, Pitt, Rut., Penn St.--Mich., Wisc., Mich. St., Mnn.--Ohio St., Pur., IU, Ill./North.--MU, Iowa, Neb., Ill./NU





I'd love butting heads with Iowa, Nebraska, and Illinois every year. Really hopes this happens.
Dear God,

Please make this happen.

Thx,
Bugeater

[BWillie]

From some sources, I have heard that K-State is the biggest block in KU not going to the Big Ten. State government won't let the two seperate.

I don't really see why the Big 10 would give two shits about KU, but there are always rumors.

[chiefsfan987]

From some sources, I have heard that K-State is the biggest block in KU not going to the Big Ten. State government won't let the two seperate.

How do you know that the state government won't let the two seperate?

[KcMizzou]

From, "Pfft.. they'd never want you."

To, "Hey... guys? Us too. Seriously. Why not? Hey... guys?!?!?"

[ChiefsCountry]

I don't really see why the Big 10 would give two shits about KU, but there are always rumors.

Basketball for the Big Ten Network especially if Syracuse and Pitt are coming along.

[KChiefs1]

Basketball is definitely a secondary sport right now in the Big Ten.

[Sure-Oz]

From, "Pfft.. they'd never want you."

To, "Hey... guys? Us too. Seriously. Why not? Hey... guys?!?!?"

LMAO

[KcMizzou]

A source in St. Louis familiar with the situation told NewsCenter 16 Thursday afternoon that Missouri will leave the Big XII and soon join the Big 10. Other schools expected to follow the Tigers are Syracuse, Pitt, Rutgers and Nebraska.

Many have speculated that such an expansion would include Notre Dame but ND athletic director Jack Swarbrick told me today that the Irish prefer to stay independent in football and in the Big East for other sports. Swarbrick said maintaining football Independence is such a part of what Notre Dame is.

He went on to say the Big East is a great partner for the University in other sports.

"We do have to monitor what is going on," Swarbrick said. "There will be significant shifts. "Hopefully we can navigate them by keeping our football independent and keeping our Big East affiliation because that is what we care about."

The move of Syracuse, Pitt and Rutgers to the Big Ten from the Big East could categorically change the landscape of the Big East itself. Thus, what Swarbrick is referring to when stating the University must continue to monitor what is going on.

The interview with Swarbrick was done before the late afternoon announcement.

http://www.wndu.com/hometop/headlines/92447574.html

[tyler360]

That would be insane if true. I hope it happens. This would do wonders for recruiting. And the overall School performance in general.

[tyler360]

Besides I know this girl that is in love with Ricky Stanzi. I want Blaine Gabbert to wipe the floor with that douche to shut her up.

[KChiefs1]

Where there is smoke there is fire!

[BWillie]

Besides I know this girl that is in love with Ricky Stanzi. I want Blaine Gabbert to wipe the floor with that douche to shut her up.

Ricky Stanzi had sex with all of your wives, and you loved him for it. Blaine Gabbert just touches himself at night to naked boy porn.

[chiefsfan987]

If this does happen I wonder if the Big XII would try to lure the Arizona schools and expand themselves.

[Titty Meat]

From, "Pfft.. they'd never want you."

To, "Hey... guys? Us too. Seriously. Why not? Hey... guys?!?!?"

Who are you mocking? I'd like to post where I said that.

[Silock]

KU needs to start looking for other opportunities right now ... you don't want to be caught without a chair when the music stops.

Lew is on it.

[kepp]

Lew went down on it.

FYP

[Saulbadguy]

Basketball is definitely a secondary sport across the country.

FYP.

Football is the breadwinner.

[Frazod]

FYP

Hope he remembers his kneepads.

[Archie Bunker]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1168948/index.htm

May 03, 2010
The Colossal Conference Grind-up
The Big Ten is on the verge of adding one, three or possibly five members, setting off a chain reaction that will remake the landscape of college sports. But what schools will join the Big Ten, and how will other schools and conferences respond? Here are three scenarios and the likely outcome
AUSTIN MURPHY

It may not have been on the agenda, but the subject of conference expansion was very much in the air at last week's BCS meetings in Scottsdale, Ariz. When the roughly two dozen athletic directors and conference commissioners broke for lunch on April 21, queuing up at an opulent buffet across from the reflecting pool at the Royal Palms Resort, it was tempting to divide them into two categories: predator and prey.

While Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany may not have been the most powerful man at the meetings—his SEC counterpart, Mike Slive, presides over a formidable empire of his own—Delany was arguably the hungriest, and we're not talking about his appetite for the buffet's superb salmon risotto. It's been four months since the Big Ten fired a shot across the bow of its fellow conferences by announcing in a statement from its presidents that the "timing is right" to explore the possibility of expansion over the "next 12 to 18 months." On the eve of last week's meetings the Chicago Tribune reported that the Big Ten was poised to adopt an "accelerated timetable" and might make up its mind sooner, rather than later.

At the Royal Palms, Delany denied that expansion had been fast-tracked, but he did nothing to dampen speculation that it will eventually happen. Not only might the conference expand, he said, but it might also expand by "more than a single [school]."

Two decades after Penn State became the Big Ten's 11th member and seven years after the ACC raided the Big East, poaching Boston College, Miami and Virginia Tech, plans are in the works to dramatically rearrange the landscape of college athletics. In addition to Delany, first-year Pac-10 commissioner Larry Scott has made no secret of his interest in expanding his conference.

By announcing their intentions, Delany and Scott have ushered in a period of high anxiety, forcing commissioners and ADs throughout Division I to prepare contingency plans for when the dominoes start falling. Many of the Scottsdale attendees "have known each other for 30 years," Mountain West Conference commish Craig Thompson said. "But now it feels like one of those cocktail parties where everyone's watching whom everyone else is talking to."

The driving force behind the Big Ten's desire to get bigger? Television revenue—from both Delany's baby, the Big Ten Network, and the conference's contract with ABC/ESPN to televise football games. The country's first conference-run national network, the Big Ten Network launched in August 2007 and is already available in 73 million homes. One of the quickest ways to increase that number, thus widening the revenue streams flowing back to the schools, would be to expand the network's footprint in the population-dense tristate area of New York, New Jersey and Connecticut. The Big Ten could accomplish that by peeling off Connecticut, Pitt, Rutgers and Syracuse, or some combination of those four.

Just as potentially lucrative is the renegotiation of the conference's TV contract (a 10-year, $1 billion deal with ABC/ESPN that expires after the 2016 season). Delany's hand should be strengthened by a recent precedent: the NCAA's 14-year, $10.8 billion contract with CBS and Turner to broadcast the men's basketball tournament. And if the Big Ten were to belly up to the negotiating table with new members in, say, New York and New Jersey, the conference would be poised to reap a windfall even more eye-popping.

Yet, there was Big East commissioner John Marinatto, in just his ninth month on the job, projecting a kind of serene defiance at last week's BCS meetings. A former seminarian, Marinatto was an associate commissioner for the Big East in 2003, when the ACC staged its raid. Rather than curl up and die, the Big East expanded to 16 schools, transforming itself into, arguably, the nation's toughest hoops conference.

The Big East didn't merely survive, "it thrived," notes Marinatto, who believes it would be a mistake to underestimate the loyalty of the presidents, ADs and coaches "who made it work and have ownership in it."

It might also be a mistake to underestimate the allure of $22 million. That king's ransom is the amount of football TV dough the Big Ten distributes to its members each year. The most generous cut given out by any conference, it comes in at a cool $16 million more than the Big East pays its top schools, a gulf that's only going to grow once the Big Ten expands.

Still, Marinatto's larger point is well taken. Right now, no one knows how this is going to shake out. But we can make some educated guesses. Herewith, SI's three expansion scenarios, in ascending order of impact.

SCENARIO 1

JUST A TREMOR

If there's one school Delany covets for his trophy case, it is Notre Dame, which last spurned the Big Ten's advances seven years ago. The cachet of the Golden Dome would go a long way toward persuading cable carriers outside the Big Ten's eight-state area—those in the northeast, in particular—to add the Big Ten Network to its basic-cable package.

But Notre Dame has a deeply held attachment to its football independence that, according to Jack Swarbrick, the school's AD, began with Jesse Harper, the Irish coach from 1913 through '17. In those days Michigan coach Fielding Yost despised Notre Dame. Not only did he refuse to schedule the Irish, but he also vowed retribution against any conference school that did. (That early incarnation of the Big Ten was called the Western Conference.) Rather than plead for games, Harper decided to play a barnstorming national schedule. The Irish boarded trains for Nebraska, Syracuse and Texas. They took on Army and Penn State. Notre Dame won many of those games and caught the nation's fancy. Thus did a run-of-the-mill Catholic college become a national icon. That helps explain, as Swarbrick says, why football independence is "central to the roots of the university."

According to Swarbrick, Notre Dame would join the conference of Yost, Woody and Paterno only under certain, dire circumstances—namely, if its nonfootball partner, the Big East, were pillaged to the brink of extinction by the Big Ten. In other words, if the Big Ten adds just a single member, it won't be Notre Dame. Besides, says one former high-ranking network executive, "I'm not sure Notre Dame's the prettiest girl at the party anymore. I think there are other schools that would give the Big Ten better exposure."

So Delany moves on to his next candidate: Missouri. The Tigers have been feeling like a bit of a stepchild in the Big 12 of late. For three straight years they've been shafted by the conference's oddly random bowl-selection process. (Recall how, after beating Kansas in the final game of the 2007 regular season and winning the North division, Missouri looked on as the BCS selected the Jayhawks to play in the Orange Bowl. One year later, the Gator Bowl bypassed the Tigers for a Nebraska team they beat by five touchdowns. And last season the Insight Bowl took a 6--6 Iowa State squad ahead of 8--4 Missouri.)

Like many of their conference brethren, the Tigers are irked by what they perceive as the Big 12's Longhorn-centrism and how it distributes (or, more accurately, fails to distribute) its football TV revenue. Where the Big Ten and SEC dispense equal shares, the Big 12 has a weighted formula favoring its strongest teams. While the gentry rakes in $10 million, bottom-feeding Baylor must settle for $7 million—well shy of the $22 mil that its Big Ten analogue, Indiana, is pulling down.

While he has grumbled publicly about the inequitable distribution of funds, Tigers football coach Gary Pinkel says he prefers to stay put—not a surprising opinion from a man who has worked tirelessly to cultivate relationships with high school coaches in the talent-rich Lone Star State. Last year's Missouri roster featured 32 players from Texas. Pinkel's staff is coming off its best recruiting year, with a class that includes nine Texans. If Mizzou bolts for the Big Ten, that pipeline figures to dry up.

Build some new pipelines, the coach is told by his unsympathetic superiors, who are swayed by the Big Ten's bigger bucks and academic reputation. So suppose the Tigers take the leap. Surprisingly vulnerable, the Big 12 loses a second member when the Pac-10 steals geographically attractive Colorado. And in keeping with what he described as his conference's "Noah's ark strategy—if we add, it's going to be two-by-two," Scott then lures Utah from the Mountain West, a cruel blow to an up-and-coming conference that had been on track to earn automatic qualifying status from the BCS. The Mountain West gets further weakened when the Big 12 plucks two of its marquee schools, BYU and TCU, to restore its membership to an even dozen. Thrilled though they are to have the Horned Frogs, Big 12 officials won't accommodate the wishes of TCU football coach Gary Patterson. Asked in January if he'd consider a move to the Big 12, Patterson joked, "Only if they let us play in the North"—the conference's weak-sister division.

SCENARIO 2

SEISMIC SHIFT
After all that time spent wrangling Big Ten presidents and chancellors into the yes-on-expansion camp, it seems a shame, Delany decides, to stop at one. The Big Ten becomes the Big Fourteen, welcoming Mizzou, Rutgers and ... Nebraska.

Sorry, Pitt. The Big Ten's already got the Nittany Lions, and that's enough of a presence in the Quaker State. No offense, Syracuse, but there are serious doubts about how much of the New York City market you actually bring in. Besides, the Orange has won 30 games in the last eight seasons. You're not Big Ten timbre and haven't been for the better part of a decade.

The easiest call here is Rutgers. A state school with a large enrollment (40,500 undergrads), Rutgers is a natural. It's also a member of the Association of American Universities research consortium—something the Big Ten presidents want to see in all new members. No less important to Big Ten bean counters: The Scarlet Knights give the Big Ten Network a foothold in the New York City metro area.

If television households are so important, how do the Cornhuskers make the cut? "It's not just about how many people are in a certain state," says Mark Silverman, president of the network, who was speaking in general terms, not about Nebraska. "It's also important to have programming that's relevant across the country. Having a popular school playing helps you do that."

So the Pac-10 adds to the ark with Colorado and Utah, and the Big 12, now having lost three members, and Mountain West find themselves in intensive care.

With Delany at center stage during the BCS meetings, it was easy to forget that the teams over which he presides are still playing catch-up to those from the SEC. It was easy, that is, until Mike Slive, the SEC's amiable commissioner, pulled up a chair and read a prepared statement summing up his thoughts on expansion:

"Given the success the SEC has experienced over the past decade," during which time the conference has won five national championships to the Big Ten's one, "we are very comfortable with where we find ourselves today. Should there be a significant shift in the conference paradigm, the SEC will be strategic and thoughtful to maintain its position as one of the nation's preeminent conferences." Translation: We like the view from the top, and think we'll stay here awhile.

SCENARIO 3
THE BIG ONE

Having heard Swarbrick repeatedly insist that the Irish could never join the Big Ten unless its partner, the Big East, was reduced to a smoking ruin, Delany decides to oblige them. In addition to coaxing Missouri and Nebraska to the altar, the Big Ten cherry-picks Pitt and Rutgers. With the Big East tottering on the verge of extinction, Notre Dame has no choice but to become the 16th member of the Big Ten. Fielding Yost and Jesse Harper perform simultaneous barrel rolls in their graves.

Not above shopping at a fire sale, the ACC gobbles up Cincinnati, Louisville, Syracuse and West Virginia, forming the nation's second 16-team superconference, thus meeting SEC commissioner Slive's threshold for significant paradigm shift.

His hand forced, Slive wins a bidding war with the Pac-10 for Texas, which has no interest in remaining in the suddenly second-tier Big 12. To ease the Longhorns' transition, Slive invites along Texas A&M, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State, forcing the Big 12 to reconstitute itself with a dog's breakfast of remainders from the WAC and the Mountain West.

Emboldened by their new power, the remaining superconferences—the self-described Gang of Five—vote to jettison the NCAA and form their own league. Suddenly redundant and unfunded, that now sclerotic body dies a slow death, like the "withering away of the state" in Marxist doctrine. The Gang continues to work with the BCS, after wresting one key concession: From this point on, the national championship will be decided by a plus-one national championship game.

WHAT WILL HAPPEN

SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN

Back in the real world, a plus-one is at least five years away. Expansion will happen, with conference realignment announced before the 2011 season. Delany isn't one for half measures, but it seems unlikely that his bosses, the staid and august Council of Presidents/Chancellors, will countenance the demolition of college football as we know it.

So they will split the difference. The Big Ten will go to 14 teams, and Notre Dame will not be one of them. The Big East will survive. Again. Casting a covetous eye to the east, Larry Scott will launch the Pac-12 Network. It will succeed, but on nowhere near as spectacular a scale as the Big Ten Network, which kicked off this arms race in the first place.

And Swarbrick will continue to be inspired by Harper, who, like him, arrived in South Bend at a time of ferment and flux. "Who knows?" says the AD. "Three years from now, maybe Google will be in the rights-acquisition business."

Having quickened so dramatically, the pace of change isn't going to slow down. Whenever it arrives, Swarbrick predicts, "the status quo won't last for a decade. Those days are gone." That train has left the station.

[kchero]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1168948/index.htm

So Delany moves on to his next candidate: Missouri. The Tigers have been feeling like a bit of a stepchild in the Big 12 of late. For three straight years they've been shafted by the conference's oddly random bowl-selection process. (Recall how, after beating Kansas in the final game of the 2007 regular season and winning the North division, Missouri looked on as the BCS selected the Jayhawks to play in the Orange Bowl. One year later, the Gator Bowl bypassed the Tigers for a Nebraska team they beat by five touchdowns. And last season the Insight Bowl took a 6--6 Iowa State squad ahead of 8--4 Missouri.)

Like many of their conference brethren, the Tigers are irked by what they perceive as the Big 12's Longhorn-centrism and how it distributes (or, more accurately, fails to distribute) its football TV revenue. Where the Big Ten and SEC dispense equal shares, the Big 12 has a weighted formula favoring its strongest teams. While the gentry rakes in $10 million, bottom-feeding Baylor must settle for $7 million—well shy of the $22 mil that its Big Ten analogue, Indiana, is pulling down.

While he has grumbled publicly about the inequitable distribution of funds, Tigers football coach Gary Pinkel says he prefers to stay put—not a surprising opinion from a man who has worked tirelessly to cultivate relationships with high school coaches in the talent-rich Lone Star State. Last year's Missouri roster featured 32 players from Texas. Pinkel's staff is coming off its best recruiting year, with a class that includes nine Texans. If Mizzou bolts for the Big Ten, that pipeline figures to dry up.

Build some new pipelines, the coach is told by his unsympathetic superiors, who are swayed by the Big Ten's bigger bucks and academic reputation. So suppose the Tigers take the leap. Surprisingly vulnerable, the Big 12 loses a second member when the Pac-10 steals geographically attractive Colorado. And in keeping with what he described as his conference's "Noah's ark strategy—if we add, it's going to be two-by-two," Scott then lures Utah from the Mountain West, a cruel blow to an up-and-coming conference that had been on track to earn automatic qualifying status from the BCS. The Mountain West gets further weakened when the Big 12 plucks two of its marquee schools, BYU and TCU, to restore its membership to an even dozen. Thrilled though they are to have the Horned Frogs, Big 12 officials won't accommodate the wishes of TCU football coach Gary Patterson. Asked in January if he'd consider a move to the Big 12, Patterson joked, "Only if they let us play in the North"—the conference's weak-sister division.

SCENARIO 2

SEISMIC SHIFT
After all that time spent wrangling Big Ten presidents and chancellors into the yes-on-expansion camp, it seems a shame, Delany decides, to stop at one. The Big Ten becomes the Big Fourteen, welcoming Mizzou, Rutgers and ... Nebraska.

Sorry, Pitt. The Big Ten's already got the Nittany Lions, and that's enough of a presence in the Quaker State. No offense, Syracuse, but there are serious doubts about how much of the New York City market you actually bring in. Besides, the Orange has won 30 games in the last eight seasons. You're not Big Ten timbre and haven't been for the better part of a decade.

The easiest call here is Rutgers. A state school with a large enrollment (40,500 undergrads), Rutgers is a natural. It's also a member of the Association of American Universities research consortium—something the Big Ten presidents want to see in all new members. No less important to Big Ten bean counters: The Scarlet Knights give the Big Ten Network a foothold in the New York City metro area.

If television households are so important, how do the Cornhuskers make the cut? "It's not just about how many people are in a certain state," says Mark Silverman, president of the network, who was speaking in general terms, not about Nebraska. "It's also important to have programming that's relevant across the country. Having a popular school playing helps you do that."

So the Pac-10 adds to the ark with Colorado and Utah, and the Big 12, now having lost three members, and Mountain West find themselves in intensive care.

With Delany at center stage during the BCS meetings, it was easy to forget that the teams over which he presides are still playing catch-up to those from the SEC. It was easy, that is, until Mike Slive, the SEC's amiable commissioner, pulled up a chair and read a prepared statement summing up his thoughts on expansion:

"Given the success the SEC has experienced over the past decade," during which time the conference has won five national championships to the Big Ten's one, "we are very comfortable with where we find ourselves today. Should there be a significant shift in the conference paradigm, the SEC will be strategic and thoughtful to maintain its position as one of the nation's preeminent conferences." Translation: We like the view from the top, and think we'll stay here awhile.



I could see these two scenarios happening...especially the one involving Rutgers, MU, and Nebraska heading to the Big 10 (14). I have no problem leaving Texas and all their BS in the dust...

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I could see these two scenarios happening...especially the one involving Rutgers, MU, and Nebraska heading to the Big 10 (14). I have no problem leaving Texas and all their BS in the dust...

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Two less things for that shitbag Beebe to be distracted by while he's chugging Longhorn cock.

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