Prisco grades the Chiefs 2010 draft

[Ugly Duck]

B- 1st Eric Berry, S: I think this is too high for a safety. The value isn't there at that position. They have other needs. I just don't think he's worth a top five pick. He's good. But he isn't great.

C 2nd Dexter McCluster, WR/RB: He is a speedy back, but don't the Chiefs have Jamal Charles? I think this is too high for a specialist. He's a good player, but this is high.

B- 2nd Javier Arenas, CB: I think he's a tad overrated. I know they are probably picking him for his return game, but he is a little overrated as a corner. Nickel corner, maybe?

B+ 3rd John Asamoah, OG: I like this pick by the Chiefs. They need help on their line and this kid had a second-round grade. He is a tough guy who will help protect Matt Cassel.

B+ 3rd Tony Moeaki, TE: I like this pick by the Chiefs. This kid has talent. He didn't play up to his level of talent as injuries slowed him some. But if he can stay on the field, he will be a factor in the Kansas City offense.

C+ 5th Kendrick Lewis, DB: Kendrick Lewis is a good competitor. He isnt the most fluid athlete but he is willing and works hard.

B 5th Cameron Shefield, OLB: Cameron Sheffield has a chance to make an impact for the Chiefs. He will need to fill out and get stronger but he will provide a good pass rush.

[Ebolapox]

prisco's a tard. berry is an A+. mccluster is a B. arenas is a C+. sheffield is a C, as is lewis until we find out what he is. moeaki is an INC until we find out how many games he'll suit up (injury prone?)

[KCrockaholic]

This is retarded. I'm sick of people calling Berry "just a Safety". He's a fucking ballhawk that can play ANY position on the back end of the defense for fucks sake! He's not T.J. Ward who will be stuck at 1 safety spot his entire career!

[Ebolapox]

exactly. berry is a home-run.

[Sure-Oz]

b- for berry yet b- for arenas derrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[chief52]

B- 1st Eric Berry, S: I think this is too high for a safety. The value isn't there at that position. They have other needs. I just don't think he's worth a top five pick. He's good. But he isn't great.

C 2nd Dexter McCluster, WR/RB: He is a speedy back, but don't the Chiefs have Jamal Charles? I think this is too high for a specialist. He's a good player, but this is high.


I quit reading at this point...

[MadMax]

This is retarded. I'm sick of people calling Berry "just a Safety". He's a ****ing ballhawk that can play ANY position on the back end of the defense for ****s sake! He's not T.J. Ward who will be stuck at 1 safety spot his entire career!



see I can agree with you, Berry was an awesome pick :)

[salame]

ghey

[buddha]

Pete can't find his own arse with both hands. Anybody who contends that safeties can't go as high as #5 in the draft, no matter how good they are, are complete and utter morons and should be taken someplace and gutted. Let's just imagine that Berry turns out to be another Ed Reed or Palamalu, or Ronnie Lott. Would anybody in their right mind NOT draft one of those players with this high of a pick?

Obviously, we hope he turns out to be that kind of player, and if he does, then KC drafted very wisely.

[Fritz88]

Prisco is retired.

[kcchiefsus]

Prisco is a complete dumbass, I don't put much into anything he says.

[Saccopoo]

Shit, he graded out the pick of Moaeki ahead of Berry.

Retard.

(And this, yet again, is not a criticism of Moeaki - I'm sure the guy is a stud. He was the #1 prep TE and Ferentz said he was the best TE he's ever had (Dallas Clark?), but the fact remains that they gave up a fifth round pick that could have resulted in a second or third round talent guy (Tennant, Campbell, Stuckey, Pitta, Norwood, Fox, etc.) at a number of positions and still had Moeaki or five other top flight tight ends (Pitta, Hernandez, Graham, Quarless, McCoy, etc.) at the top of the fourth round.

I'm hoping Moeaki is a stud, and as a Chief, I'll be his biggest supporter. It's just that I feel that they pissed away a lot on that pick and could have had the guy they wanted regardless.

At least to me, the art of trading up and down seems to be lost on the current front office.

[ChiefMojo]

The Chiefs actually probably did the right thing in trading up to get Moeaki. The reasoning for that is once Gronokowski went off the board, there was going to be a run on TE's. The Chiefs felt where they were picking from in the 4th round wasn't going to allow them to get Moeaki.

Also remember the moment the Chiefs drafted Moeaki, the next pick was another TE in Graham from Miami. It was pretty apparent the Chiefs weren't going to draft Hernandez due to his red flags (drug violations). That left only a handful of other possible TE prospects that might of been there when the Chiefs drafted. I could be wrong, but Pitta was off the board by the time KC would have had their 4th round pick.

All the Chiefs really did was get rid of their last 5th round pick. Instead of a 4th rounder, they now had a 3rd rounder. To me that was excellent move overall if they felt that well about the need Moeaki brought to the franchise and the TE position.

[Bwana]

B- for Berry? LMAO

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[Warrior5]

Piss on Prisco...

[suds79]

Wow it was hard to keep reading past what I read on Berry & McCluster. Truly he just doesn't know what's going on with the Chiefs being a national guy.

1st - Berry: No there was no higher position of need over Safety. We gave up so many big plays last year because of bad Safety play. He says Berry is good. Not great. Well then he must think there are only about 2 great prospects in this draft then since Berry was widely regarded as the 2nd or 3rd best player in this draft.

2nd - McCluster: To even mention Charles with McCluster is so short sighted. First, they'll play different positions. (RB compared to WR) so it's apples to oranges) Secondly, it's just another playmaker to get touches. Much like how Minn used Harvin last year.

I can handle someone not liking the picks. Just make a reasonable argument.

[Braincase]

Prisco is an idiot. There arguments as to who was the better overall player, Suh or Berry, and Prisco rates him a B-? In the immortal words of James T. Kirk, "A double dumbass on you!".

[Marcellus]

I think Prisco is just pissed he was wrong KC didn't take a LT in the first so he is sticking to why he thought Pioli wouldn't take Berry.

The absurdity of the B- for Berry destroys the validity of the rest of his grades.

[jdw942]

He must think Tebo was a A+

[MMXcalibur]

Prisco's a professional troll and is cut in the same cloth as Skip Bayless. If you purposely want to get pissed off and start punching random people, then read through his articles on CBSSports.com

No surprise he graded the McCluster pick along the lines that we're using him as a running back and not a slot receiver.

[Coogs]

I think Prisco is just pissed he was wrong KC didn't take a LT in the first so he is sticking to why he thought Pioli wouldn't take Berry.

The absurdity of the B- for Berry destroys the validity of the rest of his grades.

We will never know, but I would be willing to speculate that if the Redskins would have taken Berry at #4, the grade would have been at least a full letter grade higher.

[ChiefMojo]

Kind of reminds me of when Waddel of the NFLN complained about KC taking McCluster during the Draft wrap up because he didn't understand why KC drafted another RB after they already have Charles/Jones. The rest of the guys in the studio immediately corrected him and said McCluster was drafted as a slot receiver and he basically went whatever and shook it off.

I can understand how one can question the pick if he WAS drafted as a RB, but he wasn't. He was drafted for a position of need which was slot receiver. This was the same spot many wanted Golden Tate at anyways... so the pick fit the slot.

[Ugly Duck]

He must think Tebo was a A+

B- 1st Demaryius Thomas, WR: He is a good player coming off a leg injury. The knock on him is that he didn't run a lot of routes at Georgia Tech. But he can. He fills a big hole.

F 1st Tim Tebow, QB: By far and away the worst pick in this draft. Wow. How can you justify trading away Cutler and picking this kid. He's a fifth-round pick -- at best. Now we know why Josh McDaniels will last one more year in Denver. Horrible. Just horrible.

B 2nd Zane Beadles, OG: He is former tackle at Utah who will move inside to guard. The Broncos want to get bigger on the line, so this makes sense. He should make a smooth transition.

B+ 3rd J.D. Walton, C: I like this pick for Denver. He is a tough guy who will help inside. They need a center and they get it here in the third round.

B+ 3rd Eric Decker, WR: This is a pick I like by the Broncos. You can see McDaniels putting him in the Wes Welker role. He is a great athlete, although he doesn't run that well.

A 5th Perrish Cox, CB: Cox has a lot of ability and is adds youth to an aging Bronco secondary. Cox has speed but teams question his maturity

[KCrockaholic]

B- 1st Demaryius Thomas, WR: He is a good player coming off a leg injury. The knock on him is that he didn't run a lot of routes at Georgia Tech. But he can. He fills a big hole.

F 1st Tim Tebow, QB: By far and away the worst pick in this draft. Wow. How can you justify trading away Cutler and picking this kid. He's a fifth-round pick -- at best. Now we know why Josh McDaniels will last one more year in Denver. Horrible. Just horrible.

B 2nd Zane Beadles, OG: He is former tackle at Utah who will move inside to guard. The Broncos want to get bigger on the line, so this makes sense. He should make a smooth transition.

B+ 3rd J.D. Walton, C: I like this pick for Denver. He is a tough guy who will help inside. They need a center and they get it here in the third round.

B+ 3rd Eric Decker, WR: This is a pick I like by the Broncos. You can see McDaniels putting him in the Wes Welker role. He is a great athlete, although he doesn't run that well.

A 5th Perrish Cox, CB: Cox has a lot of ability and is adds youth to an aging Bronco secondary. Cox has speed but teams question his maturity


Does he ever give different grades? It's nearly all the same shit.

I disagree with the grade on the Demaryius Thomas pick. That should be an A-. They took the best receiver on the board, who doesn't have a personality problem.

He's harsh on Tebow, but well justified.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Berry was an A+ for the Chiefs. How do these fuckwads get paid to do this? KC desperately needed help at the safety position, and they needed a genuine playmaker on that side of the ball. BPA met need and KC snatched up the perfect player.

I think I agree with the rest of his assessment of our draft though. Particularly McCluster and Arenas. That's not to say that they won't out play that grade, they very well could. But his logic is sound on both players AFAIC.

[Garcia Bronco]

prisco's a tard. berry is an A+. mccluster is a B. arenas is a C+. sheffield is a C, as is lewis until we find out what he is. moeaki is an INC until we find out how many games he'll suit up (injury prone?)

I agree that Berry is an A+ player. I would downgrade the entire package because you took a saftey with the 5th overall pick.

[Mr. Laz]

McCluster and Arenas were reaches and luxury picks

the rest of our draft was solid

[Garcia Bronco]

He must think Tebo was a A+

HE graded the tebow pick as an F and said he should be a 5th rounder and that our coach will get fired because of it. Except Buffalo was going to take him with the 28th pick, but other than that...LOL

[L.A. Chieffan]

I agree with the Perrish Cox pick. If he keep his head on straight he'll be a steal in the 5th and probably show a lot more value than Arenas.

[Mr. Laz]

I agree with the Perrish Cox pick. If he keep his head on straight he'll be a steal in the 5th and probably show a lot more value than Arenas.i would of much rather used our 2nd rounder on something else and grabbed Perrish Cox as our returner/nickle in the 5th round.

[DaneMcCloud]

McCluster and Arenas were reaches and luxury picks

the rest of our draft was solid

I don't think you'll be saying that by season's end

[keg in kc]

The more I read on them the more I think McCluster and Arenas were not luxury picks at all. I think they'll both be playing important roles on the team other than returning. McCluster because I expect a lot of multiple receiver sets. Arenas because we're in nickel so much due to the league's growing emphasis on passing (consequently the same reason Berry is a good pick - the game has just changed). A nickel corner now isn't just a guy off the bench anymore, he's basically a 5th starting DB.

I think the idea that they're returners who offer other skills is backwards. I think they were drafted because they're good players, and the returns are just a cherry on top.

[salame]

The more I read on them the more I think McCluster and Arenas were not luxury picks at all. I think they'll both be playing important roles on the team other than returning. McCluster because I expect a lot of multiple receiver sets. Arenas because we're in nickel so much due to the league's growing emphasis on passing (consequently the same reason Berry is a good pick - the game has just changed). A nickel corner now isn't just a guy off the bench anymore, he's basically a 5th starting DB.

I think the idea that they're returners who offer other skills is backwards. I think they were drafted because they're good players, and the returns are just a cherry on top.

fixed

[keg in kc]

I don't know what you mean.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

I don't think you'll be saying that by season's end

That's a turd sandwich I'd camp in line overnight for.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

The more I read on them the more I think McCluster and Arenas were not luxury picks at all. I think they'll both be playing important roles on the team other than returning. McCluster because I expect a lot of multiple receiver sets. Arenas because we're in nickel so much due to the league's growing emphasis on passing (consequently the same reason Berry is a good pick - the game has just changed). A nickel corner now isn't just a guy off the bench anymore, he's basically a 5th starting DB.

I think the idea that they're returners who offer other skills is backwards. I think they were drafted because they're good players, and the returns are just a cherry on top.

I've really been warming up to the Arenas pick for just that reason. I love his speed off the corner, and am looking forward to watching him sack some QB's. Now that JaFatass is going to be gone, I think he can take them all down too. ;)

[L.A. Chieffan]

I didn't mean that to be a slight on Arenas. I think Arenas can be a solid player in the league, I just meant that they're very similar players taken 3 full rounds apart.

[Mr. Laz]

I don't think you'll be saying that by season's end
hopefully

[Mr. Laz]

look back at the draft and in hind sight (which isn't fair, i know)

here's what i would of rather seen

1. S Eric Berry
2. S Nate Allen (to hell with Page, Safety is now a strong point on our defense)
2b. NT Terrance Cody (even if Cody only comes in on 1st,2nd run downs at this spot it's worth it)
3. G/C Jon Asomaoh
3b. TE Tony Moeaki
5. CB/KR Perrish Cox (fine return guy and more potential at CB)
5b. LB Cameron Sheffield

go hard after a WR's in UDFA Denario Alexander etc to find a 3rd guy.

[KCrockaholic]

look back at the draft and in hind sight (which isn't fair, i know)

here's what i would of rather seen

1. S Eric Berry
2. S Nate Allen (to hell with Page, Safety is now a strong point on our defense)
2b. NT Terrance Cody
3. G/C Jon Asomaoh
3b. TE Tony Moeaki
5. CB/KR Perrish Cox (fine return guy and more potential at CB)
5b. LB Cameron Sheffield

go hard after a WR's in UDFA Denario Alexander etc to find a 3rd guy.

No offense, but I'll take what we did in the draft over this. The only guy that really sticks out to me on this list is Terrance Cody.

[keg in kc]

I think I'm the only one, but I wouldn't have taken Cody in any round.

[DaneMcCloud]

look back at the draft and in hind sight (which isn't fair, i know)

here's what i would of rather seen

1. S Eric Berry
2. S Nate Allen (to hell with Page, Safety is now a strong point on our defense)
2b. NT Terrance Cody (even if Cody only comes in on 1st,2nd run downs at this spot it's worth it)
3. G/C Jon Asomaoh
3b. TE Tony Moeaki
5. CB/KR Perrish Cox (fine return guy and more potential at CB)
5b. LB Cameron Sheffield

go hard after a WR's in UDFA Denario Alexander etc to find a 3rd guy.

Hmm, have disagree.

I think having a game-changer like McCluster is far more valuable than a boom or bust guy like Cody (who I don't trust, whatsoever).

Kiper LOVED Lewis in the 5th and Arenas will be another dynamic player on special teams and defense.

Choosing guys that can take it to the house any time they touch the ball gets my vote every single time.

You can't have enough game-changers in the NFL these days and I don't think that Cody or Allen would have been game-changers.

[Mr. Laz]

No offense, but I'll take what we did in the draft over this. The only guy that really sticks out to me on this list is Terrance Cody.none taken

but i only changed 3 picks

McCluster - Allen

Nate Allen is a physical and ballhawking safety. he can cover and he can tackle. Combined with Berry and we have a freaking stud secondary that can cover and hit and generally stay on the field in every situation.

Arenas - Cody

Addressed the CB/KR later ... Cody addresses a huge need on our defense and has fantastic upside


Kendrick Lewis - Parrish cox

Nate Allen is a better safety than Kendrick Lewis so we are free to address the kick returner spot. Parrish Cox has all the abilities of Arenas and more.


Group 1 - Allen,Cody,Cox
Group 2 - McCluster,Arenas,Lewis

imo Group 1 has more value than the Group 2

[DaneMcCloud]

I think I'm the only one, but I wouldn't have taken Cody in any round.

No, I'm with you.

You have to seriously question his motivation for playing football, especially after seeing him with his shirt off.

[SAUTO]

No, I'm with you.

You have to seriously question his motivation for LIVING, especially after seeing him with his shirt off.

fixed it for ya:thumb: he looks like a heart attack waiting to happen

[WildTurkey]

Hmm, have disagree.

I think having a game-changer like McCluster is far more valuable than a boom or bust guy like Cody (who I don't trust, whatsoever).

Kiper LOVED Lewis in the 5th and Arenas will be another dynamic player on special teams and defense.

Choosing guys that can take it to the house any time they touch the ball gets my vote every single time.

You can't have enough game-changers in the NFL these days and I don't think that Cody or Allen would have been game-changers.

This... especially over a lard ass like Cody...