Want to fire an employee over a comment...

[Vegas_Dave]

So an employee today made a comment that was so offensive to me that I had to hold myself back from firing her over it.

There was a brief discussion over the NYC Bomb scare this past week. She said that it wasnt newsworthy because it didnt go off. She then went further commenting on 9/11. Her comment was that 9/11 would have been "cooler if they [the terrorists] had also taken over a TV station at the same time and broadcast a message during the attacks"

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More info:

1. No, she is not hot or "hawt".
2. The "brief discusssion" over the NYC Bomb scare was simply brought up by her as she was surfing the net over the break. She complained that because the bomb DIDNT go off, it wasnt worth it interupting the news and being such a "big thing".
3. She is a fairly ignorant person in my opinion.
4. I wouldnt have fired her over just the comment, I simply wanted to. This is why I had to hold myself back from firing her.
5. She was being 100% serious with her comments.
6. Yes, I have pointed out to the person who DID hire her, against my recommendation, that she was wrong with this hire (like SOOOO many others).

I simply needed to vent. I sadly have to work with this employee 5 days a week with little repreive. She doesnt shut up and to call her a hick would be doing a disservice to the mullet.

[Ralphy Boy]

So an employee today made a comment that was so offensive to me that I had to hold myself back from firing her over it.

There was a brief discussion over the NYC Bomb scare this past week. She said that it wasnt newsworthy because it didnt go off. She then went further commenting on 9/11. Her comment was that 9/11 would have been "cooler if they [the terrorists] had also taken over a TV station at the same time and broadcast a message during the attacks"

You should fire her simply because she is either on drugs or too stupid to work there.

[L.A. Chieffan]

D TRUMP THAT BEYOTCH@!

[Simply Red]

mature comment.

[seclark]

so, did you hire this stupid bitch?
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[The Franchise]

Wow.....I don't know about firing her....but I would definitely be bringing her in for a little chat.

[DenverChief]

Yeah not thinking clearly on that one....maybe instead of firing her you should find out why she thinks that way first...How old is she?

[petegz28]

It was stupid. But what does it have to do with her job? Seriously? This is why most managers don't like discussions such as politics and what not.

[wazu]

Sounds like she's probably young and said something stupid. Without any additional context it sounds like firing her is going way too far.

[DenverChief]

Sounds like she's probably young and said something stupid.

This

[Saulbadguy]

Pics of said employee?

[ChiefaRoo]

I bet she's too young to remember it well.

[Bugeater]

That's a pretty ignorant statement but I don't think firing her over it is justified.

[big nasty kcnut]

Fire her for verbal harassment. bitch need to know her role.

[Vegas_Dave]

so, did you hire this stupid bitch?
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No I didnt. In fact, I was very much against the hire instead and have every day since.

This person is in her mid-30's, former US Army.

[ChiefaRoo]

You should punch her in the throat and then ask her if it would of been cooler if you would have had a play by play guy there describing the moment.

[Titty Meat]

Firing her or fingering her? Is she hawt?

[seclark]

No I didnt. In fact, I was very much against the hire instead and have every day since.

This person is in her mid-30's, former US Army.

well, at least a little talk w/her and a "i told you so" to hr would be in order.
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[thawk]

own a business and if things stick in your mind like they do mine you will never trust her judgment so I would fire her and tell her that she should learn to use good judgment. VERY INAPROPRIAT comment.

[tyton75]

she better have big tits

[kysirsoze]

No I didnt. In fact, I was very much against the hire instead and have every day since.

This person is in her mid-30's, former US Army.

Wow.

If she's also incompetent, sounds like as good an excuse as any. Otherwise, yeah, firing her would be a little extreme.

[CHENZ A!]

I have one lady that works for me that has said much worse. She is just extremely ignorant and doesn't realize that she is being crass. I had to bring her in and let her know what type of things I would not tolerate being said in the office. It's pretty bad that a 46 year old woman needs to be told by her 28 year old boss how to conduct herself at work. Just talk to her, let her know that she is entitled to her beliefs but should keep them to herself at work because they are offensive.
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[Mile High Mania]

So an employee today made a comment that was so offensive to me that I had to hold myself back from firing her over it.

There was a brief discussion over the NYC Bomb scare this past week. She said that it wasnt newsworthy because it didnt go off. She then went further commenting on 9/11. Her comment was that 9/11 would have been "cooler if they [the terrorists] had also taken over a TV station at the same time and broadcast a message during the attacks"

I underlined that because I would be curious to find out if there were other comments that maybe gave her the impression it was ok to try and make an inappropriate comment. Sounds like she was referencing something you might see in a Die Hard movie.

I dunno... I guess there's just too much unknown for me on this one. Who was in the conversation? What was the tone of the comments?

I don't know that you can just fire people for making stupid comments at the water cooler. Sure, you can fire them for making sexual references or racial slurs, but this ... ? I dunno.

It was definitely a moment that 'hopefully' she would like a do over.

[ClevelandBronco]

...In fact, I was very much against the hire instead and have every day since...

Sounds like you're hoping that this is enough of a reason to get rid of her. Maybe the fact that you're looking for a reason is reason enough.

Personally, I wouldn't consider firing her over her statement specifically, but I'd give her a brief lecture (not a discussion) on what is and what is not an appropriate remark in a business setting. I'd make it crystal clear that I never want to have to repeat that lecture.

Now's a good time to underscore the fact that you're not her friend, and if she really needs to say silly shit she should resist the urge until she's with one.

[keg in kc]

Sounds like somebody who's watched too many movies.

[Dayze]

You should punch her in the throat and then ask her if it would of been cooler if you would have had a play by play guy there describing the moment.

ROFL

[ClevelandBronco]

I underlined that because I would be curious to find out if there were other comments that maybe gave her the impression it was ok to try and make an inappropriate comment. Sounds like she was referencing something you might see in a Die Hard movie.

I dunno... I guess there's just too much unknown for me on this one. Who was in the conversation? What was the tone of the comments?

I don't know that you can just fire people for making stupid comments at the water cooler. Sure, you can fire them for making sexual references or racial slurs, but this ... ? I dunno.

It was definitely a moment that 'hopefully' she would like a do over.

In Colorado you can fire pretty much anyone for pretty much anything that doesn't violate equal opportunity laws or an employment contract. You might still get stuck with an unemployment insurance mess, but employees are easy to get rid of. I don't know about Nevada.

[Consistent1]

The TV station thing almost reeks of sarcasm.In an unfortunate sense,the bombing story certainly would have been a huge news story had it gone any farther.Plus,it is just opinion.Does the person not care for you much?Sounds like some dumb comments,but I don't know about firing someone.That could turn into a slippery slope.
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[Ebolapox]

missouri IS an at-will state...

[Ebolapox]

which is too bad, cause you're in vegas, no?

[Mile High Mania]

In Colorado you can fire pretty much anyone for pretty much anything that doesn't violate equal opportunity laws or an employment contract. You might still get stuck with an unemployment insurance mess, but employees are easy to get rid of. I don't know about Nevada.

I guess it depends on the job, her role and whether or not she would push it legally... is it ok to fire someone for making a bad comment if it's not sexually or racially offensive to someone? Outside of a poor track record (results), bad reviews, etc... I have noticed it's hard to fire someone over something like this one. Then again, we don't know the nature of the work, setting of the comments and what else had been said.

Let's look at it like this, would Vegas Dave be as upset if his favorite co-worker had made the very same comment?

[Pushead2]

Call in Big Ben The HR female specialist. Make sure to also have someone with a play by play along with the throat chop.

[Mr. Laz]

The thread title says it all "WANT TO FIRE ...."

it should be "have to fire ...."


imo too much emotion in the first ... it's a business.

[keg in kc]

I don't say this in any kind of defense for what she said, but it reads to me like this is an individual that you have a grudge with or a dislike for, and almost appears that you're grasping for any straw you can find to get rid of her. I'm not sure this straw is the one you should reach for, however, being (at least it appears to be) unrelated to her job or performance thereof. If people could be fired for unpopular comments, or comments made in poor taste, or even blatantly stupid comments, I'm not sure any of us would have jobs.

[ClevelandBronco]

I guess it depends on the job, her role and whether or not she would push it legally... is it ok to fire someone for making a bad comment if it's not sexually or racially offensive to someone? Outside of a poor track record (results), bad reviews, etc... I have noticed it's hard to fire someone over something like this one...

Texas law must be much more employee-friendly than Colorado law.

[BigRock]

No I didnt. In fact, I was very much against the hire instead and have every day since.

So were you really that offended by her comment, or are you just looking for a reason to fire her?

[ClevelandBronco]

I don't say this in any kind of defense for what she said, but it reads to me like this is an individual that you have a grudge with or a dislike for, and almost appears that you're grasping for any straw you can find to get rid of her. I'm not sure this straw is the one you should reach for, however, being (at least it appears to be) unrelated to her job or performance thereof. If people could be fired for unpopular comments, or comments made in poor taste, or even blatantly stupid comments, I'm not sure any of us would have jobs.

And here they can be fired for exactly those reasons. They can also be justifiably fired for no reason at all.

"You're fired."

"Why?"

"Clear out. You have five minutes."

Perfectly acceptable firing in Colorado.

Again, I don't know about Nevada.

[Pushead2]

And here they can be fired for exactly those reasons. They can also be justifiably fired for no reason at all.

"You're fired."

"Why?"

"Clear out. You have five minutes."

Perfectly acceptable firing in Colorado.

Again, I don't know about Nevada.

that's the shit right there....

[morphius]

I just think some lady watches too much TV, simple as that.

[Demonpenz]

easy way to get unemployment

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

"And then, if John McLain showed up to kick the terrorists' ass, it would have been SAH-WEET"!

-Dumb Bitch.

[Mile High Mania]

Yeah, I think you're reaching for a reason to fire her... you're on a slippery slope if you ask me. Watch out or you may be the one in hot water for firing her for unjust reasons.

[Garcia Bronco]

You can't have those types of conversations and then hold people to the fire because you don't agree.,

[Valiant]

Do not see why you could fire her over it??



People can twist a comment out of context..
You do not like her..
If it were someone else like a guy friend would you be making this thread??



Personally if she were fired and found out about this thread, I would think it would be more justfied as sexual discrimination and prejudice against you by her.. It is easy to take things out of context when you do not like a person..

[Garcia Bronco]

And here they can be fired for exactly those reasons. They can also be justifiably fired for no reason at all.

"You're fired."

"Why?"

"Clear out. You have five minutes."

Perfectly acceptable firing in Colorado.

Again, I don't know about Nevada.

This is correct. They can fire you for any reason except race, sex, color, and religion. They could literally make up anything.

[ClevelandBronco]

You can't have those types of conversations and then hold people to the fire because you don't agree.,

Sure you can, if you have the power.

It's probably not a wise long term strategy though.

[keg in kc]

Sure you can, if you have the power.

It's probably not a wise long term strategy though.'twere my point.

[POND_OF_RED]

Hostage situations make every story cooler. She has a point...

I would hate to work with some of you people thinking this actually warrants a lecture. Lighten up people.

[ClevelandBronco]

Hostage situations make every story cooler. She has a point...

I would hate to work with some of you people thinking this actually warrants a lecture. Lighten up people.

It's cool. You wouldn't have to work with me long. :D

[LaChapelle]

I knew I wasn't cool
didn't know just how much

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Texas law must be much more employee-friendly than Colorado law.

Nope. I fired a guy just because he looked stupid. I Love Texas.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Hostage situations make every story cooler. She has a point...

I would hate to work with some of you people thinking this actually warrants a lecture. Lighten up people.

Was thinking the exact same thing. Jesus, unless you had loved ones that died that day I don't see that statement as being anything but obvious.

[demonhero]

I'd fire her because obviously she is obviously going to be a team motivator.

[Fritz88]

No I didnt. In fact, I was very much against the hire instead and have every day since.


so you are waiting for a reason to fire her :)

Firing her is a little bit too much I would say. But I would reconsider promoting someone like her to be in a leadership or managerial position.

[MIAdragon]

http://www.dhs.gov/files/reportincidents/counterterrorism.shtm

Its for her own good.

[CoMoChief]

Firing her? No.

Letting her know how fucking stupid she is? Absolutely.

[luv]

This is correct. They can fire you for any reason except race, sex, color, and religion. They could literally make up anything.

You'd just better be willing to shell out for unemployment. About the only way you don't have to pay is if they quit, or if they break a rule set forth by the unemployment office (which may or may not match the rules in your handbook).

[KCUnited]

Shoot, the other day I had to tiptoe around 2 protected classes telling a story about how one had defrauded a local restaurant on her lunch break by "slipping" on a puddle of water and the other saying how she needs to find herself a puddle to "slip" in.

I start to loosen up when the conversation is simply about terrorism.

[Duck Dog]

Buy a remote control plane and fly into into her head, video it and post it on you tube.

[Dave Lane]

No I didnt. In fact, I was very much against the hire instead and have every day since.

This person is in her mid-30's, former US Army.

You don't need an excuse to fire her. If this is the only thing she did wrong then absolutely no she should not be fired for it. If she said it to a group of customers that got upset I could see it more. But if she was just spouting random BS then who cares.

Its not quite as bad as saying the Chiefs should have drafted Tim Tebow. Now if she had said that :)

[Vegas_Dave]

More info:

1. No, she is not hot or "hawt".
2. The "brief discusssion" over the NYC Bomb scare was simply brought up by her as she was surfing the net over the break. She complained that because the bomb DIDNT go off, it wasnt worth it interupting the news and being such a "big thing".
3. She is a fairly ignorant person in my opinion.
4. I wouldnt have fired her over just the comment, I simply wanted to. This is why I had to hold myself back from firing her.
5. She was being 100% serious with her comments.
6. Yes, I have pointed out to the person who DID hire her, against my recommendation, that she was wrong with this hire (like SOOOO many others).

I simply needed to vent. I sadly have to work with this employee 5 days a week with little repreive. She doesnt shut up and to call her a hick would be doing a disservice to the mullet.

[Vegas_Dave]

Buy a remote control plane and fly into into her head, video it and post it on you tube.

AWESOME!

[Over-Head]

So an employee today made a comment that was so offensive to me that I had to hold myself back from firing her over it.

There was a brief discussion over the NYC Bomb scare this past week. She said that it wasnt newsworthy because it didnt go off. She then went further commenting on 9/11. Her comment was that 9/11 would have been "cooler if they [the terrorists] had also taken over a TV station at the same time and broadcast a message during the attacks"

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More info:

1. No, she is not hot or "hawt".
2. The "brief discusssion" over the NYC Bomb scare was simply brought up by her as she was surfing the net over the break. She complained that because the bomb DIDNT go off, it wasnt worth it interupting the news and being such a "big thing".
3. She is a fairly ignorant person in my opinion.
4. I wouldnt have fired her over just the comment, I simply wanted to. This is why I had to hold myself back from firing her.
5. She was being 100% serious with her comments.
6. Yes, I have pointed out to the person who DID hire her, against my recommendation, that she was wrong with this hire (like SOOOO many others).

I simply needed to vent. I sadly have to work with this employee 5 days a week with little repreive. She doesnt shut up and to call her a hick would be doing a disservice to the mullet.

I dunno about down there in Yanky Doodle land, but up here ya just can`t fire someone for being too stupid to breath, kinda like this gunt sounds :shake:

[Vegas_Dave]

I dunno about down there in Yanky Doodle land, but up here ya just can`t fire someone for being too stupid to breath, kinda like this gunt sounds :shake:

In Nevada, we dont technically need a reason to fire someone... as I said, Im just venting and I did hold myself back from firing the person... and it DEFINITELY would not have been the only reason, simply a catalyst.

[GoHuge]

Yeah I'm sure she could find a constitutional lawyer to take the case if she felt so inclined. That pesky 1st amendment and all. I know alot of people that have said and done stupid shit, but are protected by our constitution. Part of what makes our country great and stupid. If she was in another country with no tolerance towards individual thought than she would be rightfully waterboarded or beaten with a cane in full public view. Personally I think that comment is insensitive and makes me want to do either or both of the above mentioned, but I'm sure we've all said something that infuriates others. I'm told I do all the time, but not in a work setting and usually when alcohol is involved.

Some people really are that stupid/ignorant. Perhaps she'd like to be deported to the Taliban.........see how "cool" she thinks that is. Maybe I have too much national pride or am too sensitive towards innocents being attacked, but this pisses me off the more I think about it.

Firing her could end up getting you in more trouble than it's worth. I can assure you that firing this moron will not rid you of dealing with dumb fucks in the work place.

For satisfaction though you could take a bat to her windshield and flatten a few tires. Put a note on the window saying something to the affect of "Thanks for your support infidel." Signed, The Taliban.

[warpaint*]

I can't wrap my mind around anything beyond the notion that this just has to have been sarcasm. Certainly poor taste. What is her job?

[Adept Havelock]

Kudos on holding back, and my sympathies for having to deal with that idiot.

[KC Jones]

Strap a can of gasoline and a propane tank to her and set her on fire... then say, "You're right, I think it will be better when it goes off".

[Demonpenz]

i wouldn't have gotten mad, she looks like an idiot, I have no personal ties to that tradegy or 1000's of other events. Prayers if you lost someone in 9/11

[HotRoute]

teach her this . . .

mouth meet filter, you now have to wait ten seconds after having a thought to actually say it.

[kcpasco]

I don't think legally you can fire her over something like that.

[ClevelandBronco]

I don't think legally you can fire her over something like that.

:facepalm:

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[Demonpenz]

I don't think legally you can fire her over something like that.

this

[ClevelandBronco]

this

:facepalm::facepalm:

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[Spott]

Instead of firing her, you can do what most big companies do and give her a promotion just to get rid of her. If that doesn't work maybe you can put anti-freeze in her coffee.

[luv]

Instead of firing her, you can do what most big companies do and give her a promotion just to get rid of her. If that doesn't work maybe you can put anti-freeze in her coffee.

Is this the first antifreeze post?

[kcpasco]

:facepalm:

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If I got fired over a comment my union steward would have a field day

[Demonpenz]

If I got fired over a comment my union steward would have a field day

no shit, I would beg my employer to fire me, the union steward where I work I would never have to worry again

[ClevelandBronco]

If I got fired over a comment my union steward would have a field day

no shit, I would beg my employer to fire me, the union steward where I work I would never have to worry again

:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:

[luv]

:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:

Have you ever dealt with a union?

[kcpasco]

Have you ever dealt with a union?

By his reaction, I think he would be in for a BIG surprise.

[Demonpenz]

BIG surprise

[Pablo]

BIG I love Tom Hanks movies.

[MahiMike]

No I didnt. In fact, I was very much against the hire instead and have every day since.

This person is in her mid-30's, former US Army.

Didn't see that coming. However, had I been there, we would have discussed whether or not Bush/Cheney staged the whole damn thing. I woulda 1=upped er.

[RippedmyFlesh]

The responses here are geographical in nature.
If it had been something in kc that had been blown up instead of the wtc I don't think she would get the sympathy she is getting in this thread.

[Spott]

Is this the first antifreeze post?

It is probably a record if it is the first one.

[Param]

People say stupid crap at work all the time. I just don't take it seriously.

[ClevelandBronco]

I don't think legally you can fire her over something like that.

Yeah. I've dealt with unions.

Now why don't you fucking idiots read what you've written.

[Pushead2]

I love Tom Hanks movies.

:)

[ClevelandBronco]

In Colorado you can fire pretty much anyone for pretty much anything that doesn't violate equal opportunity laws or an employment contract. You might still get stuck with an unemployment insurance mess, but employees are easy to get rid of. I don't know about Nevada.

Then read this from waaaay back in post 27.

[ClevelandBronco]

Union punishments against an employer aren't imposed because the employer did something illegal. They are imposed because the employer did something the union does not like.

Hence the :facepalm:.