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DaKCMan AP
05-17-2010, 12:52 PM
Research links pesticides with ADHD in children

By CARLA K. JOHNSON, AP Medical Writer Carla K. Johnson, Ap Medical Writer – Mon May 17, 8:08 am ET

CHICAGO – A new analysis of U.S. health data links children's attention-deficit disorder with exposure to common pesticides used on fruits and vegetables.

While the study couldn't prove that pesticides used in agriculture contribute to childhood learning problems, experts said the research is persuasive.

"I would take it quite seriously," said Virginia Rauh of Columbia University, who has studied prenatal exposure to pesticides and wasn't involved in the new study.

More research will be needed to confirm the tie, she said.

Children may be especially prone to the health risks of pesticides because they're still growing and they may consume more pesticide residue than adults relative to their body weight.

In the body, pesticides break down into compounds that can be measured in urine. Almost universally, the study found detectable levels: The compounds turned up in the urine of 94 percent of the children.

The kids with higher levels had increased chances of having ADHD, attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder, a common problem that causes students to have trouble in school. The findings were published Monday in Pediatrics.

The children may have eaten food treated with pesticides, breathed it in the air or swallowed it in their drinking water. The study didn't determine how they were exposed. Experts said it's likely children who don't live near farms are exposed through what they eat.

"Exposure is practically ubiquitous. We're all exposed," said lead author Maryse Bouchard of the University of Montreal.

She said people can limit their exposure by eating organic produce. Frozen blueberries, strawberries and celery had more pesticide residue than other foods in one government report.

A 2008 Emory University study found that in children who switched to organically grown fruits and vegetables, urine levels of pesticide compounds dropped to undetectable or close to undetectable levels.

Because of known dangers of pesticides in humans, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency limits how much residue can stay on food. But the new study shows it's possible even tiny, allowable amounts of pesticide may affect brain chemistry, Rauh said.

The exact causes behind the children's reported ADHD though are unclear. Any number of factors could have caused the symptoms and the link with pesticides could be by chance.

The new findings are based on one-time urine samples in 1,139 children and interviews with their parents to determine which children had ADHD. The children, ages 8 to 15, took part in a government health survey in 2000-2004.

As reported by their parents, about 150 children in the study either showed the severe inattention, hyperactivity and impulsivity characteristic of ADHD, or were taking drugs to treat it.

The study dealt with one common type of pesticide called organophosphates. Levels of six pesticide compounds were measured. For the most frequent compound detected, 20 percent of the children with above-average levels had ADHD. In children with no detectable amount in their urine, 10 percent had ADHD.

"This is a well conducted study," said Dr. Lynn Goldman of the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health and a former EPA administrator.

Relying on one urine sample for each child, instead of multiple samples over time, wasn't ideal, Goldman said.

The study provides more evidence that the government should encourage farmers to switch to organic methods, said Margaret Reeves, senior scientist with the Pesticide Action Network, an advocacy group that's been working to end the use of many pesticides.

"It's unpardonable to allow this exposure to continue," Reeves said.

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Bump
05-17-2010, 12:54 PM
It was a conspiracy the entire time to sell more Ritalin and Adderall to all of the kids! It's the Corporations, I'm telling you!

KCUnited
05-17-2010, 01:04 PM
Cliff notes??

Bane
05-17-2010, 01:06 PM
I'm not listening to "research" anymore till they can tell me who came first.The chicken or the egg.:D

DaKCMan AP
05-17-2010, 01:11 PM
Cliff notes??

Biggest takeaways:

A 2008 Emory University study found that in children who switched to organically grown fruits and vegetables, urine levels of pesticide compounds dropped to undetectable or close to undetectable levels.

Because of known dangers of pesticides in humans, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency limits how much residue can stay on food. But the new study shows it's possible even tiny, allowable amounts of pesticide may affect brain chemistry, Rauh said.

CrazyPhuD
05-17-2010, 01:11 PM
Wait I thought it was the vaccines...

MOhillbilly
05-17-2010, 01:30 PM
science is not truth.

i call bullshit.

phisherman
05-17-2010, 02:11 PM
Wait I thought it was the vaccines...

That's autism, not ADHD.

Sofa King
05-17-2010, 02:14 PM
i only made it a few sentences into this article... then i just kinda lost focus...

BIG_DADDY
05-17-2010, 02:24 PM
I kind of gave up on all this because apparently if I don't take all my vaccines and eat all my pesticides I'm a damn hippy.

googlegoogle
05-17-2010, 03:08 PM
Don't believe it.

MOhillbilly
05-17-2010, 03:20 PM
I kind of gave up on all this because apparently if I don't take all my vaccines and eat all my pesticides I'm a damn hippy.

Shut up hippy.

FAX
05-17-2010, 03:27 PM
So ingesting poison causes health and psychological problems in humans? I can't believe it's true.

You know, the irritating aspect of this continuing problem is that, if companies like Dow and Monsanto and Dupont can design and manufacture sophisticated chemical compounds that can kill a bug or an unwanted plant, they can certainly create a chemical that would remove the residue. Heck, they probably already have but the corporate farms may feel like it's too expensive to use or something. Where is our government on this deal? We need to demand Romaine that isn't deadly. Maybe a new political party is in order. The Lettuce Alone party, maybe.

FAX

Rooster
05-17-2010, 03:29 PM
i only made it a few sentences into this article... then i just kinda lost focus...

Me too.... {takes a bite of an apple}

MOhillbilly
05-17-2010, 03:30 PM
So ingesting poison causes health and psychological problems in humans? I can't believe it's true.

You know, the irritating aspect of this continuing problem is that, if companies like Dow and Monsanto and Dupont can design and manufacture sophisticated chemical compounds that can kill a bug or an unwanted plant, they can certainly create a chemical that would remove the residue. Heck, they probably already have but the corporate farms may feel like it's too expensive to use or something. Where is our government on this deal? We need to demand Romaine that isn't deadly. Maybe a new political party is in order. The Lettuce Alone party, maybe.

FAX

most fungacides & pesticides have a spray to table(veggies)/ slaughter directions on the label.

FAX
05-17-2010, 03:36 PM
most fungacides & pesticides have a spray to table(veggies)/ slaughter directions on the label.

Um ... could you repeat that, Mr. MOhillbilly? I'm not sure I follow. Are you saying that the pesticides come with instructions as to how to remove the residue on the final product?

FAX

MOhillbilly
05-17-2010, 03:39 PM
Um ... could you repeat that, Mr. MOhillbilly? I'm not sure I follow. Are you saying that the pesticides come with instructions as to how to remove the residue on the final product?

FAX

they come with shelf life residue instructions for produce. so if you spray today for an mite/flies/lice on your livestock you have to wait 5 days to slaughter.

FAX
05-17-2010, 03:48 PM
they come with a shelf life residue instructions for produce. so if you spray today for an mite/flies/lice on your livestock you have to wait 5 days to slaughter.

Ah. Thanks. That makes sense. Still, if we're talking produce, isn't some of the pesticide absorbed into the fruit/vegetable? That seems reasonable to me.

I'm not morally opposed to the notion of "better living through chemistry", however, it seems like we've been playing fast and loose with poison in the name of profit for a long time.

Best practices may not be enough, you know? Especially those recommended by the chemical manufacturers. Their job is to sell more chemicals to the benefit of their shareholders. So, it goes without saying that they would promote the use of pesticides while downplaying risks. I just think that, if they can invent a product that can kill a bug, it seems like they ought to be able to invent something that can remove or neutralize that product.

FAX

Sofa King
05-17-2010, 03:56 PM
so this isn't another Pestilence + Children thread?



Let down.....

MOhillbilly
05-17-2010, 03:58 PM
Pesticide absorption and residual contaminants would depend on the type of produce and how often you spray. Ive mixed hundreds and hundreds of gallons of all types of posions and been around people who have for my entire life. Never known of anyone having adverse side effects when you follow the instructions.

Studies like this get people all freaked out and get good products taken off the market. Try and find some Maneb for instance.

bowener
05-17-2010, 04:26 PM
If it ADDs any empirical credibility, I am the son of a farmer (grew up on a farm - crops not livestock), and I have pretty bad ADHD.

Obviously it has toned down with age, but as a small child I was pretty much off the walls go-go type hypertard, then I would crash and sleep. Thankfully I am super smart (or was before alcohol and drugs) and was able to do awesome in school. Only problems I have now with it are severe inability to organize anything or keep my mind on a single thought for more than a few minutes (at most). It is also horrible trying to sleep. I take medication that helps FWIW.

edit:

I should possibly add that my mother has Parkinson's disease and her neurologist believes it is probably tied to pesticides or chemical exposure of some kind since she is the only (known) person in our family to have ever had Parkinson's. The only silver lining in that shit cloud is that my children and my brother's children will not have Parkinson's most likely.