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SPATCH
05-30-2010, 01:48 PM
The World Cup Schedule (Group Play)

US v England: Saturday, June 12 at 1:30 pm CST on ABC
US v Slovenia: Friday, June 18 at 9:00 am CST on ESPN
US v Algeria: Wednesday, June 23 at 9:00 am CST on ESPN


Group C rankings

England - FIFA Ranking: 8 SPI: 3
Slovenia - FIFA Ranking: 25 SPI: 35
Algeria - FIFA Ranking: 30 SPI: 64
United States - FIFA Ranking: 14 SPI: 15



http://www.currybet.net/images/football/world_cup_posters/2010_world_cup_poster.jpg


http://samaw.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/2010_World_Cup_Groups.jpg


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SPATCH
05-30-2010, 01:51 PM
The boys just left for South Africa today so I figured it was time to get the thread up.

The game against the Turks was encouraging. Next Saturday we'll take on the Aussies in our final (televised) tune-up game.

BWillie
05-30-2010, 01:53 PM
What is the World Cup?

SPATCH
05-30-2010, 01:58 PM
What is the World Cup?

What is anything?

Why is the sky blue? Why are boobs good?

Silock
05-30-2010, 01:58 PM
This thread needs more Jose Francisco Torres!

http://fcdenver.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/jose-francisco-torres.jpg

vailpass
05-30-2010, 02:07 PM
Excellent, I love horse racing. Or is this the car racing one?

Bugeater
05-30-2010, 02:17 PM
Excellent, I love horse racing. Or is this the car racing one?
I thought it was tennis. :shrug:

SPATCH
05-30-2010, 02:59 PM
This thread needs more Jose Francisco Torres!

http://fcdenver.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/jose-francisco-torres.jpg

Damn he looked good against Turkey. The future is bright with this one.

SUCK IT MEXICO

SPATCH
05-30-2010, 03:41 PM
this gives me goosebumps every time... enjoy

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Silock
05-30-2010, 03:48 PM
That vid rocks!

Buck
05-30-2010, 03:55 PM
He thinks tildes make a thread official. Lol n00b.

OnTheWarpath15
05-30-2010, 04:02 PM
A month of acting better than you'll ever see get an Oscar.

Buck
05-30-2010, 04:06 PM
A month of acting better than you'll ever see get an Oscar.

The US doesn't flop. Italy is pretty good about not flopping usually.

Param
05-30-2010, 04:09 PM
This thread needs more Jose Francisco Torres!

http://fcdenver.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/jose-francisco-torres.jpg

You mean the real Torres?

http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2009/06/15/1225734/822619-fernando-torres-spain.jpg

Silock
05-30-2010, 04:09 PM
You mean the real Torres?

http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2009/06/15/1225734/822619-fernando-torres-spain.jpg

The one that's been missing all year? No, not him.

Buck
05-30-2010, 04:10 PM
You mean the real Torres?

http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2009/06/15/1225734/822619-fernando-torres-spain.jpg

I remember when we beat Spain. That was epic.

Fritz88
05-30-2010, 04:11 PM
A month of acting better than you'll ever see get an Oscar.

To each his own I guess.

Param
05-30-2010, 04:12 PM
Italy is pretty good about not flopping usually.

BULLSHIT

Buck
05-30-2010, 04:12 PM
PS for once I am actually happy to be unemployed. I can watch the whole World Cup this year.

Buck
05-30-2010, 04:13 PM
BULLSHIT

At least in Serie A.

I know that dude flopped when Zidane headbuttrled him.

Param
05-30-2010, 04:15 PM
I can watch the whole World Cup this year.

LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE THE WORLD CUP!

Pants
05-30-2010, 04:19 PM
Italy is pretty good about not flopping usually.

what is this i don't even

Italy, my friend, are the master floppers. Nobody flops as much as Italy. Nobody.

Param
05-30-2010, 04:19 PM
The one that's been missing all year? No, not him.

Don't you worry...

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/world-cup/story/_/id/790782/ce/uk/&cc=5901?ver=us

He'll be ready!

:D

Pants
05-30-2010, 04:20 PM
As far as predictions go, my heart says Netherlands, but my money says Spain. :)

SPATCH
05-30-2010, 04:21 PM
He thinks tildes make a thread official. Lol n00b.

Tildes make this thread officially ~~~~BADASS~~~~

OnTheWarpath15
05-30-2010, 04:21 PM
To each his own I guess.

If you enjoy 90% of the game being played between the boxes, seeing a handful of scoring chances a game, don't mind the seemingly corrupt officiating, the absolutely horrendous acting - not getting touched and acting as if you've ben hit by sniper fire - only to be taken off on a stretcher and return to the game minutes later -and then add the stench of hooliganism, then good for you.

To each his own is absolutely correct.

Enjoy the WC.

Param
05-30-2010, 04:21 PM
what is this i don't even

Italy, my friend, are the master floppers. Nobody flops as much as Italy. Nobody.

I hope they eat shit and get bounced in the group stage.

Pants
05-30-2010, 04:23 PM
The Masterclass

[how beautiful soccer is played @ 1:04]

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Silock
05-30-2010, 04:23 PM
Don't you worry...

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/world-cup/story/_/id/790782/ce/uk/&cc=5901?ver=us

He'll be ready!

:D

Meh. Don't get me wrong... I like the guy. Hell, I have his Spain jersey in my closet right now. I just have serious doubts about his impact after being out for so long and just generally having a bad year.

Buck
05-30-2010, 04:24 PM
what is this i don't even

Italy, my friend, are the master floppers. Nobody flops as much as Italy. Nobody.

I swear to you that I see way less flopping in Serie A than in the EPL an La Liga. Serie A is mostly Italians too.

OnTheWarpath15
05-30-2010, 04:26 PM
what is this i don't even

Italy, my friend, are the master floppers. Nobody flops as much as Italy. Nobody.

Number 1 on this countdown:


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OnTheWarpath15
05-30-2010, 04:31 PM
The "Beautiful Game" my ass.

Right around the 1:47 mark is fucking brilliant.

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Buck
05-30-2010, 04:32 PM
Number 1 on this countdown:


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That shouldn't have been a PK, but how did you expect him to not fall over that dude?

Pants
05-30-2010, 04:34 PM
OTWP, what exactly is the point of all this? Can you start a separate thread about how you don't like soccer and the reasons why. This thread is for people who are excited about the World Cup. Thank you, sir.

Param
05-30-2010, 04:43 PM
OTWP, what exactly is the point of all this? Can you start a separate thread about how you don't like soccer and the reasons why. This thread is for people who are excited about the World Cup. Thank you, sir.

:clap:

Param
05-30-2010, 04:48 PM
Tildes make this thread officially ~~~~BADASS~~~~

EDIT your first post.

Provide the rest of the group matches and rankings. Who cares about group C. :D

Pants
05-30-2010, 04:49 PM
Provide the rest of the group matches and rankings. Who cares about group C. :D

Yes, please.

Fritz88
05-30-2010, 04:51 PM
If you enjoy 90% of the game being played between the boxes, seeing a handful of scoring chances a game, don't mind the seemingly corrupt officiating, the absolutely horrendous acting - not getting touched and acting as if you've ben hit by sniper fire - only to be taken off on a stretcher and return to the game minutes later -and then add the stench of hooliganism, then good for you.

To each his own is absolutely correct.

Enjoy the WC.

You are coming from an NFL fan mindset trying to compare apples to oranges. If you have football at the back of your mind when making this argument, you will fall into the trap of comparing two different sports.

MMXcalibur
05-30-2010, 04:53 PM
I admit that diving and flopping is fucking pathetic and despite how harsh it may seem, I almost wish a flop would garner a straight red card. Nevertheless, if you're not pumped for the World Cup, don't come in the topic.

Anyways, I'm really looking forward to the first game against England. There's a lot of hype for the U.S (and not just from the U.S either). Time to see how they match up with one of the world's powers.

OnTheWarpath15
05-30-2010, 04:55 PM
OTWP, what exactly is the point of all this? Can you start a separate thread about how you don't like soccer and the reasons why. This thread is for people who are excited about the World Cup. Thank you, sir.

Just making a point.

A month of acting better than you'll ever see get an Oscar.

Then others chimed in on the flopping as well.

Christ, I wasn't even the first one to take a shot at the sport in this thread.

Like I said earlier, enjoy the WC.

OnTheWarpath15
05-30-2010, 04:58 PM
You are coming from an NFL fan mindset trying to compare apples to oranges. If you have football at the back of your mind when making this argument, you will fall into the trap of comparing two different sports.

I'm not allowed to make a rebuttal, as I don't want to be accused of hi-jacking yet again.

Enjoy the WC.

OnTheWarpath15
05-30-2010, 05:01 PM
FTR, I hope the US does well, and am proud of the fact that they aren't routinely described as divers/floppers.

SPATCH
05-30-2010, 05:15 PM
EDIT your first post.

Provide the rest of the group matches and rankings. Who cares about group C. :D

better?

no rankings... but whatever

Pants
05-30-2010, 05:26 PM
better?

no rankings... but whatever

Yes, much better. Thank you.

Silock
05-30-2010, 05:28 PM
van Persie injured again.

http://justarsenal.com/van-persie-injures-his-ankle-again-in-holland-training-session/4125

Reaper16
05-30-2010, 05:31 PM
This thread title is ugly as sin. ASTERISKS, motherfucker.

SPATCH
05-30-2010, 06:27 PM
This thread title is ugly as sin. ASTERISKS, mother****er.

Look. I've made loads of "official" threads and I've always used asterisks. In fact, when I first made this thread title it had asterisks. However, I quickly realized that this isn't just another "official" thread. This is a special ****ing thread for a special ****ing event, and it deserves a special ****ing title.

I had to decide between "+++++ The OFFICIAL... +++++" or "~~~~~ The OFFICIAL... ~~~~~"

I chose the tildes and, thus, the revolution has begun.

Reaper16
05-30-2010, 06:29 PM
Look. I've made loads of "official" threads and I've always used asterisks. In fact, when I first made this thread title it had asterisks. However, I quickly realized that this isn't just another "official" thread. This is a special ****ing thread for a special ****ing event, and it deserves a special ****ing title.

I had to decide between "+++++ The OFFICIAL... +++++" or "~~~~~ The OFFICIAL... ~~~~~"

I chose the tildes and, thus, the revolution has begun.
Neg rep.

SPATCH
05-30-2010, 06:33 PM
Neg rep.

You're standing in the way of the revolution. This is bigger than you. It can't be stopped.

Silock
05-30-2010, 06:34 PM
Don't worry. He'll be first against the wall when the revolution comes.

Pants
05-30-2010, 06:46 PM
van Persie injured again.

http://justarsenal.com/van-persie-injures-his-ankle-again-in-holland-training-session/4125

FUCK! FUCK! FUCK!

SPATCH
05-31-2010, 10:04 AM
I know we shouldn't try to read too much into these pre-world cup friendlies... but England is really sputtering towards June 12.

I was able to watch their game against Mexico at Wembley and Mexico was really unlucky to lose that game. It was 3-1 England but the score does not do that game justice. The Mexicans were producing chance after chance but were unable to net anything.

Now, in their latest game, they were only able to beat Japan 2-1. How was England able to score? BOTH were Japanese own goals!

Needless to say, the public is outraged.

This could be a good thing for us... More than likely, though, England will use this as a swift kick in the ass and come out guns blazing on June 12.

We shall see.

Baby Lee
05-31-2010, 11:06 AM
I know we shouldn't try to read too much into these pre-world cup friendlies... but England is really sputtering towards June 12.

I was able to watch their game against Mexico at Wembley and Mexico was really unlucky to lose that game. It was 3-1 England but the score does not do that game justice. The Mexicans were producing chance after chance but were unable to net anything.

Now, in their latest game, they were only able to beat Japan 2-1. How was England able to score? BOTH were Japanese own goals!

Needless to say, the public is outraged.

This could be a good thing for us... More than likely, though, England will use this as a swift kick in the ass and come out guns blazing on June 12.

We shall see.

Wayne Rooney is the part that scares the fuck out of me, because his particular skill isn't dependent on athleticism. His particular skill is finding himself in the spots where it reasonable to score and getting off the shot that puts the onion in the bag. Rarely do his goals involved more than 2-3 touches and rarely does he need to beat >1 man [and the goalie]. He's not Ronaldo or Ronaldinho geeking around with jukes and feints on on the touchline. He's just some dude in the penalty area who finds his spot and delivers.


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Love to watch him do it, because to the extent I had a skill set in soccer, it resembled his. I wasn't the fastest runner [though I maintain that I run faster toward goal with a ball on my feet, than I can run anywhere else on earth], or some hyper-skilled dribbler or a contortionist, and I certainly couldn't sky above the rest to lay down a devastating header, but if I could get the ball on my foot within 20 yards of goal I could get off a shot with pace and movement in short order.

vailpass
05-31-2010, 11:32 AM
How can anyone get excited about some tournament where the US is not even playing?

Baby Lee
05-31-2010, 11:35 AM
How can anyone get excited about some tournament where the US is not even playing?

I don't know, tell us what tournament you're talking about, and maybe we can come up with something.

memyselfI
05-31-2010, 11:36 AM
TEN DAYSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

the Talking Can
05-31-2010, 11:43 AM
How can anyone get excited about some tournament where the US is not even playing?

a question that should be followed with another

like...how does one end up so fucking stupid?

vailpass
05-31-2010, 11:48 AM
a question that should be followed with another

like...how does one end up so ****ing stupid?

You missed my point. Think harder.

SPATCH
05-31-2010, 12:06 PM
You missed my point. Think harder.

Thought about it. Hard. I've got nothing. Explain yourself.

Pants
05-31-2010, 12:08 PM
Wayne Rooney is the part that scares the fuck out of me, because his particular skill isn't dependent on athleticism. His particular skill is finding himself in the spots where it reasonable to score and getting off the shot that puts the onion in the bag. Rarely do his goals involved more than 2-3 touches and rarely does he need to beat >1 man [and the goalie]. He's not Ronaldo or Ronaldinho geeking around with jukes and feints on on the touchline. He's just some dude in the penalty area who finds his spot and delivers.


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Love to watch him do it, because to the extent I had a skill set in soccer, it resembled his. I wasn't the fastest runner [though I maintain that I run faster toward goal with a ball on my feet, than I can run anywhere else on earth], or some hyper-skilled dribbler or a contortionist, and I certainly couldn't sky above the rest to lay down a devastating header, but if I could get the ball on my foot within 20 yards of goal I could get off a shot with pace and movement in short order.

Yeah, he's a pure finisher and a hard worker. Same mold as Tevez. Huntelaar (the bicycle kick king) has the same role for the Dutch unlike all their other strikers (who can create their own with ease).

Pants
05-31-2010, 12:10 PM
You missed my point. Think harder.

You made one point: the US isn't playing in the tournament. Your point is invalid, because they ARE, in fact, playing in the tournament. Dumbass.

vailpass
05-31-2010, 12:40 PM
You made one point: the US isn't playing in the tournament. Your point is invalid, because they ARE, in fact, playing in the tournament. Dumbass.

Name calling/ Doesn't that get you a little card pulled out of the refs pocket and waved menacingly in your general direction?

Again, you missed my point.
Is the US really playing in the tournament? Have they ever? Do they have any chance of winning? Does anyone care?

Spicy McHaggis
05-31-2010, 12:40 PM
Wayne Rooney is the part that scares the **** out of me, because his particular skill isn't dependent on athleticism. His particular skill is finding himself in the spots where it reasonable to score and getting off the shot that puts the onion in the bag. Rarely do his goals involved more than 2-3 touches and rarely does he need to beat >1 man [and the goalie]. He's not Ronaldo or Ronaldinho geeking around with jukes and feints on on the touchline. He's just some dude in the penalty area who finds his spot and delivers.

This is well put. The thing that absolutely freaks me out is that the US could defend the shit out of England for 89 minutes and if they just let up for one minute Rooney can simply will in a goal.

Just so damn dangerous.

vailpass
05-31-2010, 12:43 PM
Thought about it. Hard. I've got nothing. Explain yourself.

The US never has a chance to win the tournament.
A very small percentage of Americans know or care if we even have a team in the cup.
The US may as well not be in the tournament.

Reaper16
05-31-2010, 12:45 PM
Again, you missed my point.
Is the US really playing in the tournament? Have they ever? Do they have any chance of winning? Does anyone care?
Yes, they are really playing in this tournament; They are seeded second in Group C. Yes, they have played in World Cups before. Yes, they have a chance of winning; admittedly it is a very unlikely outcome but they do have a chance. Yes, people care; obviously so considering this thread and the way we're pointing out how dumb you're being right now.

SPATCH
06-01-2010, 01:42 AM
The US never has a chance to win the tournament.
A very small percentage of Americans know or care if we even have a team in the cup.
The US may as well not be in the tournament.

Take the blinders off my friend.

As far as the notion goes that "we have no chance to win the tournament"... allow me to explain this in terms that you may more easily understand. Let's pretend this is the NCAA men's basketball tournament. First, there are a little over 100 Division 1 basketball schools. Similarly, there are a little over 100 soccer nations recognized by FIFA. The US is currently ranked #14 by FIFA. So, if FIFA were to hold a 64 team tournament identical to the NCAA's then the US would theoretically receive a #3 seed.

Maybe you've watched the NCAA tournament before; a team with a #3 seed can do some damage and is never dismissed as having "no chance".

Additionally, we are not even one year removed from beating Spain (the #1 team in the world) 2-0.

...and we are not just making some miracle run this year or something. It has been YEARS since we have not been in the top 30 according to the FIFA rankings.

Soccer is gaining a lot of momentum in this country and it's only going to continue.

kcxiv
06-01-2010, 02:25 AM
lol, come on now they have no chance at winning, but they can be competitive.

Silock
06-01-2010, 03:13 AM
lol, come on now they have no chance at winning, but they can be competitive.

I don't know about "No chance of winning." It's slim, sure. But we almost won teh Confederations Cup. We have a chance, and it's bigger now than it has ever been. It's only going to continue to get bigger, too.

But there's only one winner, so yeah, if it's US vs. the field, I'll take the field.

|Zach|
06-01-2010, 03:35 AM
Can't fucking wait!

http://cdn.picapp.com/ftp/Images/6/e/b/3/PicImg_Jozy_Altidore_5ef4.JPG

penguinz
06-01-2010, 07:14 AM
I don't know about "No chance of winning." It's slim, sure. But we almost won teh Confederations Cup. We have a chance, and it's bigger now than it has ever been. It's only going to continue to get bigger, too.

But there's only one winner, so yeah, if it's US vs. the field, I'll take the field.Too bad no team that has ever played in the Confederations Cup final has ever won the WC the following year. :(

Pants
06-01-2010, 08:21 AM
I don't know about "No chance of winning." It's slim, sure. But we almost won teh Confederations Cup. We have a chance, and it's bigger now than it has ever been. It's only going to continue to get bigger, too.

But there's only one winner, so yeah, if it's US vs. the field, I'll take the field.

Yeah, if it's ANY team vs the field, you take the field. The US is probably in the 2nd tier of possible winners and winning the whole thing is a distinct possibility for them. And I'm saying this as not a huge fan of US soccer, being 100% objective.

SPATCH
06-01-2010, 11:24 AM
Too bad no team that has ever played in the Confederations Cup final has ever won the WC the following year. :(

SA 2010

ONE GAME CHANGES EVERYTHING DAMMMMMMMN IT

vailpass
06-01-2010, 11:35 AM
I wonder what the reaction here in the US would be if the US won the world cup?

CHENZ A!
06-01-2010, 11:36 AM
The US never has a chance to win the tournament.
A very small percentage of Americans know or care if we even have a team in the cup.
The US may as well not be in the tournament.

You are a fucking moron.
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vailpass
06-01-2010, 11:39 AM
You are a ****ing moron.
Posted via Mobile Device

What specifically makes you say so, or is this just your emotions talking?

SPATCH
06-01-2010, 11:42 AM
I wonder what the reaction here in the US would be if the US won the world cup?

It wouldn't be nearly as wild as pretty much every other country in the tournament.... But it would be a lot more wild than it would have been if we had won it in 1998 or 2002 (where we finished in the top 8 btw).

ESPN is really starting to embrace soccer. Have you noticed that every "Top 10 Plays" in the past year has had a soccer highlight? It wasn't that way a few years ago. They realize that it's a burgeoning market in our country.

CHENZ A!
06-01-2010, 11:46 AM
What specifically makes you say so, or is this just your emotions talking?

It is obvious that you have no idea what you are talking about, and seem to be content in your ignorance.
Posted via Mobile Device

vailpass
06-01-2010, 11:51 AM
It is obvious that you have no idea what you are talking about, and seem to be content in your ignorance.
Posted via Mobile Device

Can you point to a specific statement in my post that is incorrect or is vague name calling stemming from a case of butt hurt more your thing?

kcxiv
06-01-2010, 11:54 AM
I don't know about "No chance of winning." It's slim, sure. But we almost won teh Confederations Cup. We have a chance, and it's bigger now than it has ever been. It's only going to continue to get bigger, too.

But there's only one winner, so yeah, if it's US vs. the field, I'll take the field.

i cant wait and i am going to be rooting for USA and MExico as i am Mexican- American, but i just dont see it.

I know the punchers chance thing and all, and i would love nothing more for them to win the WC hell, either team, but i dont think we are a top tier team yet. Its getting better no doubt.


I wish the USA had more interest in Soccer though, i really do. World Cup is some fun shit to watch.

Pants
06-01-2010, 12:02 PM
i cant wait and i am going to be rooting for USA and MExico as i am Mexican- American, but i just dont see it.

I know the punchers chance thing and all, and i would love nothing more for them to win the WC hell, either team, but i dont think we are a top tier team yet. Its getting better no doubt.


I wish the USA had more interest in Soccer though, i really do. World Cup is some fun shit to watch.

One of the funnest competitions to watch, right up there with March Madness. In no other event do players give 110% the whole time like they do in the WC.

It's pretty much every soccer player's dream to be called up to the national squad and it's the highest honor and the highest form of recognition (especially if you're one of the powerhouse countries).

Country pride on the line = fun as hell to watch. This isn't a bunch of Home Depot amateurs competing either, these are the best of the best professionals in the world.

CHENZ A!
06-01-2010, 12:08 PM
Can you point to a specific statement in my post that is incorrect or is vague name calling stemming from a case of butt hurt more your thing?

All of the statements in the first post I quoted are inaccurate. My "butt" is not "hurt" at all. You actually ARE a moron, I'm not calling you a name. Just letting you know why it is you feel the way you do.
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vailpass
06-01-2010, 12:32 PM
All of the statements in the first post I quoted are inaccurate. My "butt" is not "hurt" at all. You actually ARE a moron, I'm not calling you a name. Just letting you know why it is you feel the way you do.
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Let's see...


The US never has a chance to win the tournament.

Theoretically this is incorrect but come on, you know what I mean. Don't get your shiny little shorts in a bunch

A very small percentage of Americans know or care if we even have a team in the cup.

An unassailable fact based on detailed opinion polls, the recent US census and most importantly the fact that I think so.. You won't wave one of those nasty yellow cards at me for this will you? God please not that.

The US may as well not be in the tournament.

While this is obviously the majority opinion here in America I think I will withdraw the statement. The US should be in the Nut Cup so all of our illegal residents can have something to cheer for in their newly adopted/kidnapped country. Oh, and for the 67 natural born US citizens that care whether the US plays in this thing or not.

SPATCH
06-01-2010, 12:35 PM
The blinders are firmly ON.

OnTheWarpath15
06-01-2010, 12:35 PM
So I was watching the Dan Patrick Show this AM on DTV and caught the tail end of them talking about the official ball design.

Apparently, the players are pissed because it has some grooves on it or something that makes it knuckle, and not roll/act true in flight.

Can one of you soccer-heads explain this further?

Is this going to be a legit issue?

SPATCH
06-01-2010, 12:42 PM
So I was watching the Dan Patrick Show this AM on DTV and caught the tail end of them talking about the official ball design.

Apparently, the players are pissed because it has some grooves on it or something that makes it knuckle, and not roll/act true in flight.

Can one of you soccer-heads explain this further?

Is this going to be a legit issue?

A lot of people seem to be bitching about it lately.

Normally, the goalies are the only people to whine when there is a new ball because the newest ball technology always favors the offense.

However, this year there are apparently more field players that are complaining.

IDK.. I saw an interview with some American players and they said it took two or three days, but now they are completely used to them.

Pants
06-01-2010, 01:05 PM
So I was watching the Dan Patrick Show this AM on DTV and caught the tail end of them talking about the official ball design.

Apparently, the players are pissed because it has some grooves on it or something that makes it knuckle, and not roll/act true in flight.

Can one of you soccer-heads explain this further?

Is this going to be a legit issue?

Adidas always releases a new ball for each World Cup and there's always bitching about it. Yeah, apparently the ball can get pretty random at times, but it's correctable once you get used to it, just like anything else. In either case, both sides compete with the same ball on the same pitch so there's no competitive advantage.

OnTheWarpath15
06-01-2010, 01:08 PM
Adidas always releases a new ball for each World Cup and there's always bitching about it. Yeah, apparently the ball can get pretty random at times, but it's correctable once you get used to it, just like anything else. In either case, both sides compete with the same ball on the same pitch so there's no competitive advantage.

I agree with the competitive advantage part.

But when I've heard strikers complaining about the ball, and not just goalies, there's an issue, IMO - and I really could care less about soccer.

Even I'd hate to see the WC decided because a routine shot decided to take a wild move because of the ball design - and be the GWG.

Pants
06-01-2010, 01:18 PM
Even I'd hate to see the WC decided because a routine shot decided to take a wild move because of the ball design - and be the GWG.

That's been the worry for the last 8 years or so when Adidas started to get experimental with their ball designs in the last 2 world cups. Some strikers are complaining, some are saying it's fine. Some midfielders are complaining, some are saying it's fine. The only real victims in this are goalies, who have to react to trajectories they can't properly judge.

OnTheWarpath15
06-01-2010, 01:27 PM
That's been the worry for the last 8 years or so when Adidas started to get experimental with their ball designs in the last 2 world cups. Some strikers are complaining, some are saying it's fine. Some midfielders are complaining, some are saying it's fine. The only real victims in this are goalies, who have to react to trajectories they can't properly judge.

See, I can talk a little soccer, even though I have some serious issues with the game.

:D

Why does Adidas feel the need to fuck with it? The EUFA Champions League ball was badass, IMO, and I don't recall any controversy over it.

Pants
06-01-2010, 01:36 PM
See, I can talk a little soccer, even though I have some serious issues with the game.

:D

Why does Adidas feel the need to **** with it? The EUFA Champions League ball was badass, IMO, and I don't recall any controversy over it.

You're doing a good job, we're proud of you for contributing to this thread in a positive manner. And yeah, nobody knows why Adidas does these things except for Adidas. I guess they're trying to be the tip of the spear in sports equipment progress.

Buck
06-01-2010, 07:08 PM
Thats a cool vid in the OP. Ronaldo is great at Free Kicks.

Heres a vid thats been hitting the internet today. Hilarious (if you are a U.S. fan that wants to beat England).

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Baby Lee
06-02-2010, 06:15 AM
Guy on Bill Simmons' show said that England losing to US in the opener would be worse than if they'd lost the Faulkland's War to Argentina.

Bring it, bitches!!!

Hawk8568
06-02-2010, 01:06 PM
do people gather anywhere in KC to watch?

Pants
06-02-2010, 01:07 PM
So we had a pool at work here. I got $50 on the Netherlands. Winner takes $400. Van Persie better be ready to fucking play. :)

Baby Lee
06-02-2010, 01:16 PM
Had meant to post it right after I saw it, but that first goal against Turkey was balls. Landon not only makes an epic move for free space, but he has the prescience to forgo to point blank shot and give an easy assist to the doldrum adjacent Altidore. That kind of selfless play reaps benefits far beyond a single game.

Second goal in this clip

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I was also jumping out of my seat on that failed attempt when Donovan strong armed the last defender in a race for the shot, where he threaded the ball between last two defenders and put a swim move on the nearside guy. Sure it was a foul on Donovan, but I loved the determination.

CHENZ A!
06-02-2010, 02:03 PM
do people gather anywhere in KC to watch?

The kc wizards are having a watch party at P&L Live Block. The Kansas City chapter of American Outlaws watches at Johnny's at P&L. I'm gonna watch with a group at Minsky's at the River Market for the England game then probably at P&L for the game on the 18th.
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Hawk8568
06-02-2010, 09:34 PM
The kc wizards are having a watch party at P&L Live Block. The Kansas City chapter of American Outlaws watches at Johnny's at P&L. I'm gonna watch with a group at Minsky's at the River Market for the England game then probably at P&L for the game on the 18th.
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cool. you think minsky's will put the audio on?

CHENZ A!
06-02-2010, 09:45 PM
cool. you think minsky's will put the audio on?

absolutely, I wouldn't watch there otherwise. I've never been there for a game, but my buddy and his friends say its a good atmosphere, with a big TV.

Hawk8568
06-02-2010, 10:00 PM
absolutely, I wouldn't watch there otherwise. I've never been there for a game, but my buddy and his friends say its a good atmosphere, with a big TV.

awesome, thanks. cant wait!

|Zach|
06-02-2010, 10:07 PM
Going to P+L with some friends for the the England game.

CHENZ A!
06-02-2010, 10:12 PM
awesome, thanks. cant wait!

No prob man. :toast:

Spicy McHaggis
06-02-2010, 10:40 PM
Giuseppe Rossi, enjoy watching the World Cup from your New Jersey couch.

SPATCH
06-02-2010, 10:57 PM
Giuseppe Rossi, enjoy watching the World Cup from your New Jersey couch.

yeah OUCH.

He's gotta be a lock for 2014 though

Chiefs=Champions
06-03-2010, 05:05 AM
Come on Australia!!! woo

DaKCMan AP
06-03-2010, 07:26 AM
Ole ole ole ole, ole, ole

|Zach|
06-03-2010, 10:50 AM
Fuck.

http://twitter.com/SportsCenter/statuses/15337196420

BREAKING NEWS: U.S. F Jozy Altidore hospitalized for sprained ankle.

Pants
06-03-2010, 10:54 AM
****.

http://twitter.com/SportsCenter/statuses/15337196420

BREAKING NEWS: U.S. F Jozy Altidore hospitalized for sprained ankle.

He has 9 days to recover.

CHENZ A!
06-03-2010, 11:32 AM
Fuck man. That is some seriously shitty luck. Hospitalized? For a sprained ankle? It must be pretty severe. :(
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Great Expectations
06-03-2010, 11:39 AM
MSN is calling it a mild sprain. He is listed as day to day, he will skip Saturday's game for precautionary reasons.

DaKCMan AP
06-03-2010, 11:40 AM
****.

http://twitter.com/SportsCenter/statuses/15337196420

BREAKING NEWS: U.S. F Jozy Altidore hospitalized for sprained ankle.

Rub some dirt on it.

|Zach|
06-03-2010, 11:44 AM
According to ESPN, Altidore is listed as day-to-day after x-rays came back negative on the injury.

DaKCMan AP
06-03-2010, 11:44 AM
According to ESPN, Altidore is listed as day-to-day after x-rays came back negative on the injury.

Day-to-day. Rub some dirt today. Rub more dirt tomorrow.

CHENZ A!
06-03-2010, 12:28 PM
According to ESPN, Altidore is listed as day-to-day after x-rays came back negative on the injury.

Well that's good news considering. All I know is when I tore ligaments in my ankle the x rays came back negative too, and I was out for a long time.
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Ebolapox
06-03-2010, 12:40 PM
Giuseppe Rossi, enjoy watching the World Cup from your New Jersey couch.

what's up with the quasi traitor? (quasi because his parents were both from italy)

Pants
06-03-2010, 12:48 PM
what's up with the quasi traitor? (quasi because his parents were both from italy)

Lippi, being the retard he is, left Rossi out, lol.

SPATCH
06-03-2010, 01:06 PM
Lippi, being the retard he is, left Rossi out, lol.

Rossi also plays in the Spanish Primavera. I guarantee that was a big reason why he was left off.

They take so much pride in La Liga and every single player on the roster plays in La Liga.

Pants
06-03-2010, 01:13 PM
Rossi also plays in the Spanish Primavera. I guarantee that was a big reason why he was left off.

They take so much pride in La Liga and every single player on the roster plays in La Liga.

Yeah, he does love him some Seria A, lol.

My other theory is that Dunga hates AC Milan seeing as he left off Ronaldinho and Pato. It's either that or he's going towards a more defensive approach. Still, it's a freaking head-scratcher.

SPATCH
06-03-2010, 01:53 PM
Yeah, he does love him some Seria A, lol.

My other theory is that Dunga hates AC Milan seeing as he left off Ronaldinho and Pato. It's either that or he's going towards a more defensive approach. Still, it's a freaking head-scratcher.

Excuse me, Seria A. Not La Liga.

noa
06-04-2010, 10:31 AM
Damn, this sucks. I love Drogba.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/world-cup/story/_/id/5250486/ce/us/didier-drogba-broken-arm&cc=5901?ver=us

SION, Switzerland -- Didier Drogba (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/player/_/id/18727) told teammate Kolo Toure (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/player/_/id/23601) that he will miss the World Cup after breaking his right arm Friday in a warmup match.

"For him, he said, the World Cup is finished," Toure said.

The 32-year-old Drogba was taken off 15 minutes into Ivory Coast's 2-0 win over Japan after a high challenge by Japan defender Marcus Tulio Tanaka (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/player/_/id/90608). He was then rushed to a hospital.

"We can just see on his face that he was sad, and when he is like that you can't ask more," Toure said. "It is difficult for us because he is such a really important player."

Team spokesman Eric Kacou told The Associated Press that "it is a fracture in his right arm," but coach Sven-Goran Eriksson said the team hadn't officially ruled out its captain.

"We are not sure yet," Eriksson said, saying Drogba's participation was "still a possibility."

Toure said Ivory Coast's players were hoping for a surprising recovery, and said the team would know more later Friday.

Tulio said he had no intention of hurting Drogba.

"God and everybody in the stadium saw it was a normal challenge," said the Brazil-born defender, who was shown a yellow card. "I do hope he gets better in time to play in the World Cup."

Drogba scored 29 goals in 32 Premier League matches this season, helping Chelsea win the title.

Friday's friendly was the final warmup for Ivory Coast and Japan before they travel to South Africa. The Ivorians open the World Cup on June 15 against Portugal in Port Elizabeth, while Japan begins a day earlier against Cameroon in Bloemfontein.

Drogba appeared to be holding his right side after Tulio's challenge. After returning from the hospital, the striker entered the team bus without speaking to reporters.

Eriksson said the injury was unlucky, and didn't blame Tulio.
"It wasn't bad or stupid. He didn't want to hurt anyone," the Swedish coach said. "Football is a game of contact."

DaKCMan AP
06-04-2010, 10:37 AM
Ole ole ole ole, ole, ole

CHENZ A!
06-04-2010, 11:30 AM
China just scored against France off a free kick. That world cup ball is no joke, looked like a knuckle ball. I wouldn't want to be a goalie trying to guess where its going.
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vailpass
06-04-2010, 01:00 PM
Did it happen yet? Who won the world cup?

DeezNutz
06-04-2010, 01:00 PM
I've got my orange wedges ready, so let's watch some fucking soccer.

vailpass
06-04-2010, 01:09 PM
I've got my orange wedges ready, so let's watch some ****ing soccer.

MILF patrol reporting for duty sir!

SPATCH
06-04-2010, 04:25 PM
England's Captain Rio Ferdinand is out for the world cup. Gerrard will wear the captain's band in his place.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/jun/04/rio-ferdinand-england-world-cup-2010

This certainly doesn't hurt our chances on June 12

Buck
06-04-2010, 04:35 PM
When is the first game? Not the US first game, just the first one overall.

kcxiv
06-04-2010, 05:14 PM
When is the first game? Not the US first game, just the first one overall.

Mexico Vs. South Africa on the 7th or 9th at 7am pst.

Imma be up early since i dont have to be up til about 9. i will try to sleep a bit earlier.

|Zach|
06-04-2010, 07:29 PM
Mexico Vs. South Africa on the 7th or 9th at 7am pst.

Imma be up early since i dont have to be up til about 9. i will try to sleep a bit earlier.

Nah it all starts later than that. The US game is on the second day of play.

First set of games are on June 11.

Param
06-04-2010, 07:36 PM
Giuseppe Rossi, enjoy watching the World Cup from your New Jersey couch.

Italy went with no foreign born players this time.

Param
06-04-2010, 07:46 PM
Guy on Bill Simmons' show said that England losing to US in the opener would be worse than if they'd lost the Faulkland's War to Argentina.

Bring it, bitches!!!

England's new captain

http://4gifs.com/gallery/d/85573-1/Soccer_kick_fail.gif

Param
06-04-2010, 07:48 PM
And this makes me laugh

http://i.cr3ation.co.uk/dl/s1/gif/a095b62ba601cdf2e9b5ff3d0e9c8069_gerrardscratch.gif

Param
06-04-2010, 08:05 PM
and last, but not least, my fav playa eva.......

http://www.worldproutassembly.org/images/zidane.jpg


Zizou Zizou Zizou!!!!!

Silock
06-04-2010, 08:08 PM
Zidane is a BAMF.

Param
06-04-2010, 08:53 PM
France....:doh!:

I do wonder why teams are playing friendly a week b4 the world cup.

Silock
06-04-2010, 08:59 PM
You gotta get everyone ready! The US certainly needs it.

Param
06-04-2010, 09:01 PM
You gotta get everyone ready! The US certainly needs it.

Who cares about the US:D

I dunno, just seems risky with 1 week to go. It's the fucking World Cup:D

Param
06-04-2010, 09:03 PM
You gotta get everyone ready! The US certainly needs it.

And look at les bleus... China B team? JFC!:doh!:

Buck
06-04-2010, 09:04 PM
Check out the movement on this ball.

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Param
06-04-2010, 09:19 PM
Check out the movement on this ball.

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Domenech will consult and review his astrology charts after this game, les bleus will be fine:doh!:

Silock
06-04-2010, 10:00 PM
Who cares about the US:D

You shut your whore mouth!

Silock
06-04-2010, 10:01 PM
Why is everyone freaking out about this ball? It's the same thing as the last World Cup ball. That one didn't have seams, either.

Param
06-04-2010, 10:18 PM
Why is everyone freaking out about this ball? It's the same thing as the last World Cup ball. That one didn't have seams, either.

i read an article that discuss about how the ball is manufactured, but i cannot find it.

aside from that, here's an article.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Sports/Events-Tournaments/FIFA-World-Cup/Top-stories/Official-World-Cup-ball-is-nothing-to-celebrate/articleshow/6013114.cms
JOHANNESBURG: The official World Cup ball is called the Jabulani, from the Zulu word meaning to celebrate, but few goalkeepers will be throwing a party for it. United States 'keeper Marcus Hahnemann was the latest to criticise the Adidas invention on Thursday when he called it a "nightmare".

Italy's Gianluigi Buffon said the Jabulani was unpredictable — at best. Brazil's Julio Cesar compared it with a ball you'd buy at a grocery store and just about the entire Denmark squad are unhappy with it.

It's now caused a row between Brazil coach Dunga and FIFA secretary general Jerome Valcke. Valcke suggested Brazil may be preparing to use the ball as an excuse for a poor performance at the World Cup. "It's months now since the ball has been put into the market by Adidas," Valcke said, questioning the timing of the complaints from the five-time World Cup winners.

"Is it Brazil that says that because they are afraid that they will not make it?" Dunga hit back from Brazil's camp in Johannesburg on Thursday. "He (Valcke) is a guy who never got on the field. I want him to be here in our practice and we will give him the ball to see if he can control it."

It all started with Cesar, the Inter Milan and Brazil goalkeeper, who likened the Jabulani to a cheap supermarket ball. Light, floaty and utterly unpredictable. Spain goalie Iker Casillas said it was "in an appalling condition," and England's David James thinks it's "dreadful" and "horrible."

Buffon, Italy's 2006 World Cup-winning ‘keeper, said "every touch comes with the unknown." Former England goalkeeper Gordon Banks, who pulled off one of the saves of the century from Brazil's Pele at the 1970 World Cup, said it was killing the art of goalkeeping. "It's too light, it moves around in the air, up and down, side to side. It doesn't give the goalkeeper a chance," Banks said.

The Jabulani, or "Joke-ball-lani," as some fans in South Africa are dubbing it, is the 11th Adidas version of the official World Cup ball. According to Adidas' website it has eight thermally bonded panels and a futuristic texture giving players full control over the ball under all weather conditions. Adidas also says on its website the ball is perfectly round and even more accurate than ever before.

It's lighter, too. Rounder and lighter and with less air resistance in the high altitude of many of South Africa's World Cup venues and it points to a tough time for goalkeepers over the next month. "There is a chance that it will affect goalkeepers," conceded Andy Harland, who developed the ball. "The ball will undoubtedly fly faster. It should be said that whatever ball you play with at altitude is going to be affected."

Harland worked on the Jabulani at Loughborough University's Sports Technology Institute and Adidas says it features "groundbreaking technology." Hahnemann feels technology is not always the answer. "Scientists came up with the atom bomb," he said. "Doesn't mean we should have invented it." Buffon thinks football has to go back to basics sometimes.

"There's a lot of talk about stadiums, infrastructure and TV and that's nice and all, but first we've got to worry about balls, spikes and jerseys," he said. The consensus from many of the players, not just goalkeepers, is that the ball is bad - no matter what FIFA or Adidas say.

The theory is that balls that are tougher to save for goalies means the World Cup produces more goals and more excitement. The plan may have backfired: "You can see how many forwards there are ... guys just running into the box and missing the ball by two feet," Hahnemann said. "So it not only moves for us, but also guys attacking the ball on crosses."

"It's very weird," Brazil striker Luis Fabiano said. "All of a sudden it changes trajectory on you. It's like it doesn't want to be kicked. I think it's supernatural." Denmark's Daniel Agger said it made some outfielders look like "drunken sailors" and teammate Jesper Gronkjaer told the Danish website sporten.dk, "It really is a lousy football."

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Silock
06-04-2010, 10:51 PM
I know, I'm just saying that the last WC ball was exactly the same. So was the Euro 2008 ball. I've played with both of them and they both knuckle like that.

kcxiv
06-05-2010, 12:05 AM
meh, both teams have to use it, so if one team can score with it, the other better be able too. If it has so much movement France should have scored more then NOTHING.

Buck
06-05-2010, 03:47 AM
USA vs. Australia in the last warm up match for the US starts at 5 am Pacific.

Buck
06-05-2010, 06:54 AM
Oh god I forgot about the horns. I hate those fucking things. This WC is gonna suck.

Buck
06-05-2010, 06:57 AM
Robbie Findley just missed a wide open, unoccupied, empty net.

|Zach|
06-05-2010, 07:36 AM
Clint Dempsey cares little for your Australian shananigens.

2112
06-05-2010, 08:55 AM
Otro sabado en vivo a los duece imedia en la tarde! Estados Unidos Y Englaterra en un classico!

Orale Mucha!

big nasty kcnut
06-05-2010, 09:02 AM
Ok d2112 stop saying words that i have to translate.

|Zach|
06-05-2010, 09:09 AM
3-1. Offense looked pretty good. Had nice build up...good runs and passes. Buddle got 2 Gomez got the third. Findley looked real bad today...he couldn't finish at all.

Defense did ok for the most part. Team did great in midfield but defense was pretty shaky in the box.

2112
06-05-2010, 09:12 AM
3-1. Offense looked pretty good. Had nice build up...good runs and passes. Buddle got 2 Gomez got the third. Findley looked real bad today...he couldn't finish at all.

Defense did ok for the most part. Team did great in midfield but defense was pretty shaky in the box.

Findley was awful. they were wide open nets. you cant miss that if you're a pro.

2112
06-05-2010, 09:13 AM
Ok d2112 stop saying words that i have to translate.

Que pasa, senor nut? como esta?

Silock
06-05-2010, 11:06 AM
Can't complain too much about our D if we can keep scoring goals like this.

Should have had another one with Findley and another one that was incorrectly ruled offside.

Silock
06-05-2010, 11:22 AM
Oh, and vuvuzelas can die in a flaming AIDS tree.

noa
06-05-2010, 11:52 AM
Commentary isn't in English, but these were the best highlights I could find in terms of video quality

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WoodDraw
06-05-2010, 12:30 PM
Oh, and vuvuzelas can die in a flaming AIDS tree.

This x123812983091283

They totally should have banned them from games, SA tradition be damned. So fucking miserable.

SPATCH
06-05-2010, 02:09 PM
Findley was awful. they were wide open nets. you cant miss that if you're a pro.

As long as he is making dangerous runs and stretching out the defense we're going to have to put up with some of his mistakes.

Gomez is a super-sub.. it's really nice to have someone like him that can provide some late goal scoring punch

Baby Lee
06-05-2010, 02:12 PM
As long as he is making dangerous runs and stretching out the defense we're going to have to put up with some of his mistakes.
Yeah, I was working on the properly snarky remark about comparing guys who miss shots after they toast the backfield to guys who never toast the backfield.

Plus, Findley's pass into space to Donovan against Turkey for the first goal [as well as a series of quality runs] has me giving him some leeway.

niblet
06-05-2010, 02:23 PM
Shame on FIFA for not banning vuvuzelas.

|Zach|
06-06-2010, 07:58 AM
2010 FIFA World Cup: Comparing the 32 Countries To the 32 NFL Teams

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/401566-2010-fifa-world-cup-comparing-the-32-countries-to-the-32-nfl-teams

With less than a week away, the FIFA World Cup is the planet's premiere sporting event, which garners attention on absolutely every last corner of the globe.

In the United States, fever for the World Cup is unwisely tempered, despite the growing amount of popularity for the sport within the country's borders. Perhaps the issue is a disconnect between the average American and the average European sports fan.

This article will pair every country playing in the World Cup with every team in one of America's most popular sports: football.

Group A



South Africa = Cleveland Browns

Home field is the Bafana Bafana's biggest card this summer at the World Cup. Like the Browns at the Dawg Pound, the South Africans will enjoy a unique advantage in that opponents will be treated to a loud, wild crowd when they step onto the pitch.

In the ways of overall talent? The Browns and the South Africans are near the bottom of the barrel in the power rankings.



Mexico = San Diego Chargers



Every four years, fans are made to think that Mexico are juggernauts who can take the World Cup as dark horses, pointing at the oodles of talent at every line. The Chargers have been sexy Super Bowl picks for the last half-decade or so.

Both have been constant disappointments in the post-season. Will 2010 be special for El Tri and the Bolts?



Uruguay = Chicago Bears

In the old days, Uruguay was the end all soccer power, winning the World Cup twice in its first four incarnations. Today, their reputation and name recognition with fans around the world is about all they enjoy.

Chicago is a storied franchise who dominated the early days of the NFL but have had little to crow about since the AFL-NFL merger. Despite this, they are a big name in the league and will continue to be even if they don't rack up more titles anytime soon.



France = New England Patriots

The wounded giant in this World Cup, France has racked up a couple of embarrassing results against Tunisia and China just days away from the start of the competition. Four years ago, they made the final and twelve years ago they were kissing the Cup at home. Now they're old and their mystique is being brought into question.

Sound familiar? The Patriots suddenly have a chip on their shoulder going into the 2010 season, people are calling Tom Brady soft and the Jets are overshadowing New England as the team to watch in the AFC East.



Group B



Argentina = Indianapolis Colts

Flashy, talented but ultimately flawed when it comes to putting all together, Argentina is always a threat to take the Cup. This time around, their big star Lionel Messi is leading the charge with a familiar gripe being aimed at him: the claim that he's not a big-time player who can "win it all" with his national team.

Peyton Manning had to sift through similar criticism before hoisting the Lombardi Trophy.



Nigeria = Cincinnati Bengals

Nigeria have been a tour de force in the age-limited categories of international football for the past two decades. However, the full national team struggles on the biggest stage.

Cincinnati have had a knack for drafting or reclaiming young, talented projects who as of yet cannot bulldoze their way deep into the playoffs.



Korea Republic = Carolina Panthers

A forgotten team from the Far East who put together one good run eight years ago on home soil, but have now drifted into mediocrity.

With Kerry Collins and then Jake Delhomme at the helm, the Panthers have treated fans to a couple of token successes. At the moment, they lounge in the dregs of the NFC.



Greece = Baltimore Ravens

The Greeks are quite simply a one-dimensional squad who rely on their tactical order and defensive wall to frustrate opponents. Despite their great defense, their lack of offense has kept them off the radar.

Until recently, the Ravens were a one-dimensional club, who like Greece's 2004 Euro Cup victory, had captured one major championship (Super Bowl XXXIV) on the strength of their defense.



Group C



England = New York Giants

The spotlight is brightly shone on the English every two years at the Euro Cup and the World Cup with a healthy amount of agitators proclaiming them eventual victors despite a potential lack of talent.

In the Big Apple, both local and national media usually anoint the Giants as a constant threat to win it all despite glaring holes that the rest of the nation might notice.



United States = Arizona Cardinals

The Americans shocked the world at last year's Confederations Cup by beating up on title contenders Spain and pushing eventual champions Brazil to the brink, going on an unlikely run that is equally unlikely to continue this summer at the World Cup.

Arizona smashed through the 2008 playoffs on their way to an unexpected berth to the Super Bowl. Last season, the Cards tried it again - but they snuck up on nobody and went home earlier.



Algeria = St. Louis Rams

Welcome to the World Cup, Algeria. Have a good time. Hope to see you sometime in the future, don't let the door hit you on your way out.

Anybody expecting the Rams to play more than 16 games this season? Me neither.



Slovenia = Buffalo Bills

Slovenia might not make it to the next round of the World Cup, but they're no easy squad to beat, as teams will encounter beginning next week.

The Buffalo Bills have been constant underachievers for the better part of the decade, but they've made some big teams sweat it out from time to time.



Group D



Germany = Minnesota Vikings

The Germans are a well-oiled machine who play physical ball and usually rely on a wily veteran to put them through to where they need to go.

Last season, Minnesota relied on Brett Favre to get them closer to the Super Bowl than they've been in years, but just fell short. Expect for the same to happen to Germany without their captain Michael Ballack.



Australia = Miami Dolphins

No one really knows what they'll get from Australia. They're definitely under the radar, but they boast experience and overall solid play on every line, and could benefit from an uneven group to move on.

Miami surprised in 2008 after being utterly putrid just a season before. Then, injuries derailed them in 2009. A similar fate could befall Australia if Tim Cahill, Harry Kewell or Lucas Neill go down.



Serbia = San Francisco 49ers

The Serbs have an impressive collection of athletes who play in some of the world's best clubs such as Manchester United and Chelsea, but don't have a clear difference maker who can put them through.

The 49ers are a young, talented squad who have multiple questions at arguably the most important position: quarterback. Should both of these teams find a steady leader, the results could be grand.



Ghana = Washington Redskins

A lot of big names litter the Ghana roster but their play as a team has always been underwhelming.

Washington has thrown gobs of money around at the league's most prominent free agents since Dan Snyder bought the team, without any championships to show for it.



Group E



Netherlands = New York Jets

The Dutch are always so talented, so flashy and so entertaining but ultimately break their fans hearts by failing to win the whole enchilada.

The Jets were great last season and built a steady army of believers that grew exponentially throughout the post-season before bowing to Indianapolis. Is this the year both teams put it together?



Denmark = Tampa Bay Buccaneers

The Danes are a tough team who have too many holes in their lineup to make anyone worry about them. They will be a quick first-round exit.

Tampa Bay isn't going to wow anybody in 2010 as they are rebuilding for the future.



Japan = Seattle Seahawks

No one is going to mistake Japan as a threat to win the World Cup this summer, but they have some interesting pieces that will make them fun to watch.

With Pete Carroll at the helm, there will be more than a few eyes placed on the Seahawks going into this season.



Cameroon = Houston Texans

Cameroon's offense will be undoubtedly explosive with Pierre Webo and Inter Milan striker Samuel Eto'o hounding opposing penalty boxes, but questions start at the other end of the pitch for the Africans.

With Matt Schaub, Steve Slaton and Andre Johnson, is there any doubt that the Texans can put points on the board? If that defense comes together, the balance of power will be shifted in the league.



Group F



Italy = Pittsburgh Steelers

Most soccer fans don't enjoy watching Italy games, as they are painfully slow, unexciting for the sport and played to a metronome pace that could lull anyone to sleep. Despite this, Italy is great at what they do and their track record speaks for itself.

The Steelers are traditionally a run-first, grind it out team that keeps scores low and stifles even the most spectacular opponent, riding their strategy to multiple championships along their storied history.

Hey, it may not be pretty—but it works.



Paraguay = Philadelphia Eagles

Paraguay were trendy dark horses only a few months ago, but the tragic subtraction of star striker Salvador Cabañas now has observers wondering what the true reach of this team is going into South Africa.

Philly was a constant candidate behind star quarterback Donovan McNabb, but a trade sending him out of town makes people around the league question how good the Eagles can be in 2010.



New Zealand = Detroit Lions

The same thing can be heard by opponents of both teams when New Zealand and Detroit step out onto the field:

Who are these guys?



Slovakia = Kansas City Chiefs

No one expects much out of Slovakia, but the Eastern Europeans have a steady base of players plying their trade at the highest level who could very well sneak up on some bigger countries.

The Chiefs haven't had much luck out of the AFC West these past few seasons, but they've made it tough on their rivals, stealing games from Pittsburgh and Denver in 2009.



Group G



Brazil = Dallas Cowboys

Oh, the grandeur, the big names, the grainy film depicting a breadth of titles—you could be talking about either team in this situation.

Brazil is the end-all in the world of soccer, the gold standard to which every other country aspires. While Dallas has lost some of that luster in recent years, it's hard to argue with the mystique behind the team with the star on its helmet.



North Korea = Oakland Raiders

North Korea weren't expected to be good at this year's World Cup but they've evolved in a punchline in recent weeks, with a huge blunder in their roster listing a regular striker as a goalkeeper.

Oakland was once great, but they're not expected to be any time soon. As for the punchline? Well, you know the fans and the owner, right?



Ivory Coast = Atlanta Falcons

A flashy team with plenty of balance who despite this have not been able to transcend, the Ivory Coast will now have another hurdle to jump—their goalscorer Didier Drogba may be out for the Cup with an injury.

The Falcons' attack is prodigious and their defense is getting better, but they've yet to really contest the class of the NFC.



Portugal = Tennessee Titans

The Western Europeans boast arguably the world's most exciting player in Cristiano Ronaldo. The Real Madrid striker is reason enough to be glued to every single game that Portugal plays this summer.

Even if you don't like the Titans, you can watch Chris Johnson dash in and out of defenses all day, he is a bottle rocket who keeps every fan on the edge of his seat.



Group H



Spain = New Orleans Saints

Spain come into the World Cup having never won it, loaded to the brim with stars and a beautiful style of play that pleases even the most casual of observers. All eyes are on La Roja to see if they can finally get over the hump and win it all.

The situation mirrors New Orleans prior to the Super Bowl last season.

An immensely talented team with a great attitude and style going up and facing destiny. We know how the story panned out for the Saints... how about the Spanish?



Switzerland = Green Bay Packers

Not much to say about this one except the obvious parallels to milk and cheese between Wisconsin and the country identified with the Alps.

In terms of talent, the Packers shade the Swiss.



Chile = Denver Broncos

Chile are an interesting team with oodles of talent. They are led by a brash, cerebral manager (Marcelo Bielsa) who nonetheless owes much of his success to his past.

Sound familiar? Denver is led by Josh McDaniels, whose claim to fame is working under Bill Bellichick.



Honduras = Jacksonville Jaguars

Honduras is probably off most people's minds when asked to name the three qualifying teams from the North American region for this World Cup.

Jacksonville is always the team left off of the trivia answer to the question: What are all the names of the Florida-based NFL teams?

Reaper16
06-06-2010, 10:40 AM
That was entertaining. I might just root for Slovakia now.

OnTheWarpath15
06-06-2010, 10:46 AM
That was a good post. Thought they did a good job.

Go Dutch.

LMAO

SPATCH
06-06-2010, 11:42 AM
... and the Chiefs got a little respect.

From what I know about the World Cup field, that correlated pretty well.

LetsSignRussell
06-06-2010, 11:55 AM
whos the favorite to win this thing?

SPATCH
06-06-2010, 06:01 PM
whos the favorite to win this thing?

Here's what the odds makers are saying:

Spain 7-2
Brazil 9-2
England 6-1
Argentina 8-1
Netherlands 12-1
Germany, Italy 14-1
France 20-1
Portugal 22-1
Ivory Coast 33-1
Paraguay, Chile 50-1
Cameroon, Ghana, USA, Serbia, Uruguay 66-1

(18 more teams round out the field)

Edit: *as of May 21 (some injuries have changed things)

Buck
06-06-2010, 06:10 PM
Here's what the odds makers are saying:

Spain 7-2
Brazil 9-2
England 6-1
Argentina 8-1
Netherlands 12-1
Germany, Italy 14-1
France 20-1
Portugal 22-1
Ivory Coast 33-1
Paraguay, Chile 50-1
Cameroon, Ghana, USA, Serbia, Uruguay 66-1

(18 more teams round out the field)

Even with Drogba's injury?

SPATCH
06-06-2010, 06:29 PM
Even with Drogba's injury?

lol no. Just looked... it was "as of May 21"

They probably drop to USA and co. at 66-1

Silock
06-06-2010, 07:18 PM
LOL @ England @ 6:1

OnTheWarpath15
06-06-2010, 10:40 PM
If I just heard the report on ESPN correctly, Altidore (sp) practiced today without taping his injured ankle.

Tough fuck if repost.

Great Expectations
06-08-2010, 08:43 PM
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/3818/donovanuu.jpg

SPATCH
06-08-2010, 09:34 PM
Don't forget about 1812 my noriega

Silock
06-08-2010, 10:00 PM
Where's everyone watching the game? I'm thinking about heading down to Johnny's at P&L for it. Should be a large group there.

Param
06-08-2010, 10:07 PM
Here's what the odds makers are saying:

Spain 7-2
Brazil 9-2
England 6-1
Argentina 8-1
Netherlands 12-1
Germany, Italy 14-1
France 20-1
Portugal 22-1
Ivory Coast 33-1
Paraguay, Chile 50-1
Cameroon, Ghana, USA, Serbia, Uruguay 66-1

(18 more teams round out the field)

Edit: *as of May 21 (some injuries have changed things)

I like the Nederlands at 12-1 if I was betting.

Param
06-08-2010, 10:21 PM
http://www.oleole.com/media/main/images/member_photos/group1/subgrp251/sexy-soccer-fans_81426.jpg

Oh and we need more of this in this thread

For the Nederlands supporters

Param
06-08-2010, 10:26 PM
Even with Drogba's injury?

It's 33-1....

Now, like Silock has mentioned, England 6-1 is ROFL

LetsSignRussell
06-08-2010, 10:55 PM
USA will win it!

Silock
06-08-2010, 11:12 PM
So, who's up for heading to P&L with me on Saturday morning to catch teh game?

Param
06-08-2010, 11:13 PM
So, who's up for heading to P&L with me on Saturday morning to catch teh game?

I'd go with ya, but I'm thousands of miles away.:D Have fun though!

BWillie
06-09-2010, 01:08 AM
Is that gaynaldo guy still any good? Didn't he have a good Global Cup before

CHENZ A!
06-09-2010, 10:27 AM
So, who's up for heading to P&L with me on Saturday morning to catch teh game?

I plan on going there for the game on the 18th. Its an early game but I'll have some beers!
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Pants
06-09-2010, 10:46 AM
So, who's up for heading to P&L with me on Saturday morning to catch teh game?

I might be there with a few friends. I think they're planning on heading out at half time of the Nigeria game.

DaKCMan AP
06-09-2010, 01:44 PM
Ole ole ole ole, ole, ole

Reaper16
06-10-2010, 01:27 PM
This would be a great blog post. If only I had a blog. Now presenting the 2010 FIFA World Cup Beer Companion! The following is an attempt to list an enjoyable beer from each nation participating in the World Cup. I would love to try and match beers with the character of each team but some nations aren't deep enough in beer to do that. I have provided links to each beer on the website RateBeer.com. I prefer BeerAdvocate but RateBeer is more internationally focused.

Group A:
South Africa - Draymans (South Africa) Altstadt Weissbier (http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/draymans-south-africa-altstadt-weissbier/43041/)A Hefewizen in the classic German style. Refreshing summer flavors of banana, clove and lemon make this a good host beer for watching the games.

Uruguay - FNC Zillertal Premium (http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/fnc-zillertal-premium/23776/)
A pale lager - the common beer of most countries - only with an actual hop presence. Grassy, lemony hops balanced with a honey sweetness.

Mexico - Cucapá Barley Wine (http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/cucapa-barley-wine-centenario/65951/) A legitimately good Barleywine; said to me Mexico's best beer. Flavors of toffee, dark fruits and rum with a certain "dirty" quality from Mexican water that compliments the beer.

France - La Bavaisienne Ambrée (http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/la-bavaisienne-ambree/7579/) A world-class Biere de Garde (the maltier, French version of a Belgian Saison. Both styles are considered to be 'Farmhouse Ales'). Flavors of dried hay, nuts, lemon, oats and and brewing spices with a dry finish.

Group B:
Argentina - Barba Roja Barrel Aged Red Ale (http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/barba-roja-barrel-aged-red-ale/106046/) From Argentina's vibrant young craft beer scene comes this Irish Red Ale that has been aged in bourbon barrels. Slight bourbon accents the abundance of caramel and toffee malt flavors.

Nigeria - Guinness Foreign Extra Stout (Nigeria) (http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/guinness-foreign-extra-stout-nigeria/19432/) Gunness has a brewery in Nigeria and that specific brewery is the only one to brew this recipe. Said to be the best of all Guinness products, it uses some Nigerian ingredients which provide more of a vinous character to play off the chocolate malt.

Korea Republic - Hite Stout (http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/hite-stout/12082/) The first real clunker of the list. South Korea's beer scene isn't strong, but this canned Stout is an honest effort. Average at best but an average stout is still a decent drink.

Greece - Vergina Red (http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/vergina-red/49521/) This isn't considered to be Greece's very best beer, but it is close. I chose it because of the name. Vergina. A red vergina at that. Chuckle. This beer is essentially a Sam Adams Boston Lager clone, with the balance of malts to hops favoring the malts.

Group C:
England - Fullers London Porter (http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/fullers-london-porter-bottle-keg/303/) One of the best beer nations on Earth. I could have listed dozens, but let's go with Fullers London Porter, the best example of the old Mild Porter style that was developed in London. Milk chocolate, vanilla, slight coffee and easy to drink at that.

United States - Sierra Nevada Pale Ale (http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/sierra-nevada-pale-ale-draft/16248/) Again, one of the best beer nations on Earth. I could have listed dozens but let's go with the beer that symbolizes America's craft brewing renaissance. This is the first beer brewed in what would become the American Pale Ale style - the choice of new Cascade hops made this pale ale brash and assertive with citrus and pine flavors like no other pale ale before it. America shocked the world with this beer in the late 70's and American soccer shocked the world in 1950 by beating England.

Algeria - Tango Sans Alcool (http://www.ratebeer.com/Ratings/Beer/Beer-Ratings.asp?BeerID=56934) Of the few Algerian beers that are commercially distributed, this one has no alcohol. Which is fitting because Algeria has no chance of getting out of this Group. If you're watching games at a sports bar then give this to your designated driver.

Slovenia - Sokol Svetlo Pivo (http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/sokol-svetlo-pivo/62034/) An Eastern Eurpean lager belonging to an esoteric style called Zwicklebier or Landbier, this beer tastes of medicinal bittering hops, lightly toasted grain and some unique vegetal characteristics.

Group D:
Germany - Schneider Aventinus (http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/schneider-aventinus/2224/) Again, one of the best beer nations on Earth. I could have listed dozens but let's go with my favorite German beer and one of my favorite beers period. Aventinus is a Weizenbock - a wheat dopplebock. Tangy wheat meets flavors of dark toffee, plums, blackcurrants and even some chocolate. Very complex.

Australia - Redoak Baltic Porter (http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/redoak-baltic-porter/50112/) An excellent Baltic Porter. It tastes much like the Aventinus, minus any wheat/lemon flavors. Very sweet; a dessert beer. Celebrate a win with this one.

Serbia - Jelen Pivo (http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/jelen-pivo/12285/) Most nations in this part of Europe are utterly devoted to Czech-style Pilsners. Jelen Pivo is Serbia's preeminent example. The label contains an image of a baying Elk, which is pretty cool.

Ghana - Accra Chairman (http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/accra-chairman/120904/) A uniquely Ghanan beer. This is, essentially, a ginger malt liquor. Spicy from ginger root and strongly malty like all malt liquors.

Group E:
Netherlands - Koningshoeven Quadrupel Trappist Ale (http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/koningshoeven-quadrupel-trappist-ale/45128/) Koningshoven, also known as La Trappe, is one of the world's seven Trappist monasteries that brew beer. The Quadrupel is one of the classic Trappist/Abbey beer styles. Koningshoven's Quad is an internationally renowned beer and not only because of its official Trappist distinction.

Denmark - Mikkeller Beer Geek Brunch Weasel (http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/mikkeller-beer-geek-brunch-weasel/97034/) Denmark is undergoing a serious brewing renaissance right now. The most visible brewery to U.S. beer drinkers would be Mikkeller. Mikkel is a nomadic brewer - owning no brewery of his own, he brews as a guest at breweries all over Europe. He is a prolific innovator, giving Europeal drinkers a taste of the crazy stuff coming from the United States. Perhaps his best beer is also his strangest. Beer Geek Brunch Weasel is a Imperial Coffee Stout (or Breakfast Stout) that uses one of the most expensive coffees in the world - Civet Cat coffee. The Civet Cat is a weasel-like animal that forages for beans on the forest floors of Vietnam, its enzymes break down the beans and then it poops out a richer coffee substance than before the bean was digested. Yes, seriously, this is poop beer made from poop coffee. And it is world-class.

Japan - Hitachino Nest Espresso Stout (http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/hitachino-nest-espresso-stout/71055/) Another coffee stout, this one from experimental Japanese brewers Hitchino Nest. Predictable flavors from a coffee stout but flavors that are marvelously executed. Japan is an underrated beer nation.

Cameroon - Castel Beer (http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/castel-beer-cameroon/38845/) Cameroon is not a strong beer nation at all. Their best commercial offering is this pale lager, nicknamed "The Queen of Beers." Comparable to Coors Light; hand one over to to an NFL coach if the cold-activated can of his isn't blue yet.

Group F:
Italy - Baladin Xyauyù Etichetta Rame (Copper Label) (http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/baladin-xyauyu-etichetta-rame-copper-label/51260/)
Look out, wine. Italy's youth are increasingly getting into the nation's burgeoning craft beer scene. Among the vibrant, exciting beers coming out of Italy today is Baladin's Xyauyu barleywine. Deep flavors of port and sherry round out the toffee and sourdough bread from the malt. Oak accentuates the whole drink.

Paraguay - Cerveceria Paraguayana Pilsen Dorada (http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/cerveceria-paraguayana-pilsen-dorada/29886/) This pilsner is about the best beer the country produces. Tinny from cheap hops. Hey, only one team gets to win the World Cup of soccer. Same with the WC of beer. Paraguay won't win either but their futbol is the superior product by far.

New Zealand - Epic Armageddon IPA (http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/epic-armageddon-ipa/91271/) You can tell from the name that this beer is American-inspired. New Zealand's Epic Brewery has made an IPA that actually stands up with some of the best IPAs in the U.S. Bravo.

Slovakia - Topvar 12% Tmavé - Marina (http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/topvar-12-tmave--marina/10162/) A classic example of the Schwarzbier (or Black Lager) style. Licorice and chocolate flavors combine in a light package.

Group G:
Brazil - Eisenbahn Lust (http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/eisenbahn-lust/67622/) You may have noticed this beer on liquor store shelves because of its enourmous $25 pricetag. This is a unique Belgian Strong Ale that is sent to a winery for three weeks to undergo the same process that Champagne goes through. What you get is an ale tasting of pear, clove, green apple and even some bubblegum.

Korea DPR - Taedonggang Beer (http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/taedonggang-beer/72311/) Amazingly, North Korea isn't the worst beer nation of the 32 FIFA WC participants. This pale lager is said to be startlingly average in every respect. Hooray, comrade!

Cote d'Ivoire - Mamba (http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/mamba/8202/) Guess what? It's a malt liquor! When Billy Dee Williams runs out of Colt 45 on his vacations to the Ivory Coast he reaches for one of these.

Portugal - Cerveja Super Bock Stout (http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/cerveja-super-bock-stout/24840/) Portugal is better than some when it comes to beer, but not many. I picked this beer because of its nonsensical name. Is it a dark bock? Is it a stout? Bocks are lagers and Stouts are ales and this beer surely isn't both but maybe, just maybe, it can defy convention like Portugal's star, Christiano Ronaldo.

Group H:
Spain - Agullons Setembre (http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/agullons-setembre/111689/) Spain is just now starting to innovate with beer. This is a sour ale, sort of a gueuze that has been blended with a pale ale to get some citrus hops in there. Then it is aged in wine barrels. Crazy.

Switzerland - Trois Dames Saison Houblon (http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/trois-dames-saison-houblon/72578/) I loves me a Saison. This farmhouse ale is inspired by American takes on the style; it is aggressively dry-hopped. It isn't too far off from Boulevard's Tank 7.

Honduras - Cerveza Port Royal Export (http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/cerveza-port-royal-export/2523/) It isn't good when your brewery's name is simply your language's word for "beer." This is a predictable atrocious pale lager that, like most bad pale lagers, becomes fine drinking taking into account 1.) the nation's water and 2.) the spiciness of its food.

Chile- Szot Rubia Al Vapor (http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/szot-rubia-al-vapor/65192/) Finally, we end on a nation that is more exciting in terms of beer than one would think. This beer is a Steam Beer/California Common, only with a twist - brewed with slightly roasted malts so that it becomes a sort of Steam Beer & Porter hybrid. Chile has some innovation going for it.

I hope this was a fun read. I haven't had even half of the beers on this list but I hope that you, like me, will seek some of these beers out.

Buck
06-10-2010, 03:19 PM
Man I'm so fucking ready for this. I don't think I'll be able to sleep tonight. I think the South Africa vs Mexico matchup is on tomorrow morning at 7 am here.

Pants
06-10-2010, 03:28 PM
Man I'm so ****ing ready for this. I don't think I'll be able to sleep tonight. I think the South Africa vs Mexico matchup is on tomorrow morning at 7 am here.

I think it's 5am for you, brah.

Buck
06-10-2010, 03:32 PM
I think it's 5am for you, brah.

10 AM ET = 7 AM PACIFIC

Pants
06-10-2010, 03:33 PM
10 AM ET = 7 AM PACIFIC

OH MY BAD

Buck
06-10-2010, 03:46 PM
IDIOT

Pants
06-10-2010, 03:47 PM
IDIOT

:(

OnTheWarpath15
06-10-2010, 04:01 PM
This would be a great blog post. If only I had a blog. Now presenting the 2010 FIFA World Cup Beer Companion! The following is an attempt to list an enjoyable beer from each nation participating in the World Cup. I would love to try and match beers with the character of each team but some nations aren't deep enough in beer to do that. I have provided links to each beer on the website RateBeer.com. I prefer BeerAdvocate but RateBeer is more internationally focused.

Group A:
South Africa - Draymans (South Africa) Altstadt Weissbier (http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/draymans-south-africa-altstadt-weissbier/43041/)A Hefewizen in the classic German style. Refreshing summer flavors of banana, clove and lemon make this a good host beer for watching the games.

Uruguay - FNC Zillertal Premium (http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/fnc-zillertal-premium/23776/)
A pale lager - the common beer of most countries - only with an actual hop presence. Grassy, lemony hops balanced with a honey sweetness.

Mexico - Cucapá Barley Wine (http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/cucapa-barley-wine-centenario/65951/) A legitimately good Barleywine; said to me Mexico's best beer. Flavors of toffee, dark fruits and rum with a certain "dirty" quality from Mexican water that compliments the beer.

France - La Bavaisienne Ambrée (http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/la-bavaisienne-ambree/7579/) A world-class Biere de Garde (the maltier, French version of a Belgian Saison. Both styles are considered to be 'Farmhouse Ales'). Flavors of dried hay, nuts, lemon, oats and and brewing spices with a dry finish.

Group B:
Argentina - Barba Roja Barrel Aged Red Ale (http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/barba-roja-barrel-aged-red-ale/106046/) From Argentina's vibrant young craft beer scene comes this Irish Red Ale that has been aged in bourbon barrels. Slight bourbon accents the abundance of caramel and toffee malt flavors.

Nigeria - Guinness Foreign Extra Stout (Nigeria) (http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/guinness-foreign-extra-stout-nigeria/19432/) Gunness has a brewery in Nigeria and that specific brewery is the only one to brew this recipe. Said to be the best of all Guinness products, it uses some Nigerian ingredients which provide more of a vinous character to play off the chocolate malt.

Korea Republic - Hite Stout (http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/hite-stout/12082/) The first real clunker of the list. South Korea's beer scene isn't strong, but this canned Stout is an honest effort. Average at best but an average stout is still a decent drink.

Greece - Vergina Red (http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/vergina-red/49521/) This isn't considered to be Greece's very best beer, but it is close. I chose it because of the name. Vergina. A red vergina at that. Chuckle. This beer is essentially a Sam Adams Boston Lager clone, with the balance of malts to hops favoring the malts.

Group C:
England - Fullers London Porter (http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/fullers-london-porter-bottle-keg/303/) One of the best beer nations on Earth. I could have listed dozens, but let's go with Fullers London Porter, the best example of the old Mild Porter style that was developed in London. Milk chocolate, vanilla, slight coffee and easy to drink at that.

United States - Sierra Nevada Pale Ale (http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/sierra-nevada-pale-ale-draft/16248/) Again, one of the best beer nations on Earth. I could have listed dozens but let's go with the beer that symbolizes America's craft brewing renaissance. This is the first beer brewed in what would become the American Pale Ale style - the choice of new Cascade hops made this pale ale brash and assertive with citrus and pine flavors like no other pale ale before it. America shocked the world with this beer in the late 70's and American soccer shocked the world in 1950 by beating England.

Algeria - Tango Sans Alcool (http://www.ratebeer.com/Ratings/Beer/Beer-Ratings.asp?BeerID=56934) Of the few Algerian beers that are commercially distributed, this one has no alcohol. Which is fitting because Algeria has no chance of getting out of this Group. If you're watching games at a sports bar then give this to your designated driver.

Slovenia - Sokol Svetlo Pivo (http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/sokol-svetlo-pivo/62034/) An Eastern Eurpean lager belonging to an esoteric style called Zwicklebier or Landbier, this beer tastes of medicinal bittering hops, lightly toasted grain and some unique vegetal characteristics.

Group D:
Germany - Schneider Aventinus (http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/schneider-aventinus/2224/) Again, one of the best beer nations on Earth. I could have listed dozens but let's go with my favorite German beer and one of my favorite beers period. Aventinus is a Weizenbock - a wheat dopplebock. Tangy wheat meets flavors of dark toffee, plums, blackcurrants and even some chocolate. Very complex.

Australia - Redoak Baltic Porter (http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/redoak-baltic-porter/50112/) An excellent Baltic Porter. It tastes much like the Aventinus, minus any wheat/lemon flavors. Very sweet; a dessert beer. Celebrate a win with this one.

Serbia - Jelen Pivo (http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/jelen-pivo/12285/) Most nations in this part of Europe are utterly devoted to Czech-style Pilsners. Jelen Pivo is Serbia's preeminent example. The label contains an image of a baying Elk, which is pretty cool.

Ghana - Accra Chairman (http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/accra-chairman/120904/) A uniquely Ghanan beer. This is, essentially, a ginger malt liquor. Spicy from ginger root and strongly malty like all malt liquors.

Group E:
Netherlands - Koningshoeven Quadrupel Trappist Ale (http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/koningshoeven-quadrupel-trappist-ale/45128/) Koningshoven, also known as La Trappe, is one of the world's seven Trappist monasteries that brew beer. The Quadrupel is one of the classic Trappist/Abbey beer styles. Koningshoven's Quad is an internationally renowned beer and not only because of its official Trappist distinction.

Denmark - Mikkeller Beer Geek Brunch Weasel (http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/mikkeller-beer-geek-brunch-weasel/97034/) Denmark is undergoing a serious brewing renaissance right now. The most visible brewery to U.S. beer drinkers would be Mikkeller. Mikkel is a nomadic brewer - owning no brewery of his own, he brews as a guest at breweries all over Europe. He is a prolific innovator, giving Europeal drinkers a taste of the crazy stuff coming from the United States. Perhaps his best beer is also his strangest. Beer Geek Brunch Weasel is a Imperial Coffee Stout (or Breakfast Stout) that uses one of the most expensive coffees in the world - Civet Cat coffee. The Civet Cat is a weasel-like animal that forages for beans on the forest floors of Vietnam, its enzymes break down the beans and then it poops out a richer coffee substance than before the bean was digested. Yes, seriously, this is poop beer made from poop coffee. And it is world-class.

Japan - Hitachino Nest Espresso Stout (http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/hitachino-nest-espresso-stout/71055/) Another coffee stout, this one from experimental Japanese brewers Hitchino Nest. Predictable flavors from a coffee stout but flavors that are marvelously executed. Japan is an underrated beer nation.

Cameroon - Castel Beer (http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/castel-beer-cameroon/38845/) Cameroon is not a strong beer nation at all. Their best commercial offering is this pale lager, nicknamed "The Queen of Beers." Comparable to Coors Light; hand one over to to an NFL coach if the cold-activated can of his isn't blue yet.

Group F:
Italy - Baladin Xyauyù Etichetta Rame (Copper Label) (http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/baladin-xyauyu-etichetta-rame-copper-label/51260/)
Look out, wine. Italy's youth are increasingly getting into the nation's burgeoning craft beer scene. Among the vibrant, exciting beers coming out of Italy today is Baladin's Xyauyu barleywine. Deep flavors of port and sherry round out the toffee and sourdough bread from the malt. Oak accentuates the whole drink.

Paraguay - Cerveceria Paraguayana Pilsen Dorada (http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/cerveceria-paraguayana-pilsen-dorada/29886/) This pilsner is about the best beer the country produces. Tinny from cheap hops. Hey, only one team gets to win the World Cup of soccer. Same with the WC of beer. Paraguay won't win either but their futbol is the superior product by far.

New Zealand - Epic Armageddon IPA (http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/epic-armageddon-ipa/91271/) You can tell from the name that this beer is American-inspired. New Zealand's Epic Brewery has made an IPA that actually stands up with some of the best IPAs in the U.S. Bravo.

Slovakia - Topvar 12% Tmavé - Marina (http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/topvar-12-tmave--marina/10162/) A classic example of the Schwarzbier (or Black Lager) style. Licorice and chocolate flavors combine in a light package.

Group G:
Brazil - Eisenbahn Lust (http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/eisenbahn-lust/67622/) You may have noticed this beer on liquor store shelves because of its enourmous $25 pricetag. This is a unique Belgian Strong Ale that is sent to a winery for three weeks to undergo the same process that Champagne goes through. What you get is an ale tasting of pear, clove, green apple and even some bubblegum.

Korea DPR - Taedonggang Beer (http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/taedonggang-beer/72311/) Amazingly, North Korea isn't the worst beer nation of the 32 FIFA WC participants. This pale lager is said to be startlingly average in every respect. Hooray, comrade!

Cote d'Ivoire - Mamba (http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/mamba/8202/) Guess what? It's a malt liquor! When Billy Dee Williams runs out of Colt 45 on his vacations to the Ivory Coast he reaches for one of these.

Portugal - Cerveja Super Bock Stout (http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/cerveja-super-bock-stout/24840/) Portugal is better than some when it comes to beer, but not many. I picked this beer because of its nonsensical name. Is it a dark bock? Is it a stout? Bocks are lagers and Stouts are ales and this beer surely isn't both but maybe, just maybe, it can defy convention like Portugal's star, Christiano Ronaldo.

Group H:
Spain - Agullons Setembre (http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/agullons-setembre/111689/) Spain is just now starting to innovate with beer. This is a sour ale, sort of a gueuze that has been blended with a pale ale to get some citrus hops in there. Then it is aged in wine barrels. Crazy.

Switzerland - Trois Dames Saison Houblon (http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/trois-dames-saison-houblon/72578/) I loves me a Saison. This farmhouse ale is inspired by American takes on the style; it is aggressively dry-hopped. It isn't too far off from Boulevard's Tank 7.

Honduras - Cerveza Port Royal Export (http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/cerveza-port-royal-export/2523/) It isn't good when your brewery's name is simply your language's word for "beer." This is a predictable atrocious pale lager that, like most bad pale lagers, becomes fine drinking taking into account 1.) the nation's water and 2.) the spiciness of its food.

Chile- Szot Rubia Al Vapor (http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/szot-rubia-al-vapor/65192/) Finally, we end on a nation that is more exciting in terms of beer than one would think. This beer is a Steam Beer/California Common, only with a twist - brewed with slightly roasted malts so that it becomes a sort of Steam Beer & Porter hybrid. Chile has some innovation going for it.

I hope this was a fun read. I haven't had even half of the beers on this list but I hope that you, like me, will seek some of these beers out.

Well, fuck.

That's two of these I have to take the Dutch.

I've never had this particular incarnation, but I loves me some Trappist Ale.

How does it compare to each of the Chimay's?

kcxiv
06-10-2010, 04:40 PM
That shit is early considering i dont get up til about 8:30-9 am.


My bro in law is taking the day of fwork and going to wake me up at 7am. lol Cant wait

carlos3652
06-10-2010, 04:47 PM
CANT WAIT!

SPATCH
06-10-2010, 04:51 PM
DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

I can't fucking wait til Saturday.




Excited about tomorrow, too lol

Pants
06-10-2010, 05:06 PM
:whackit:

Hawk8568
06-10-2010, 08:14 PM
Where's everyone watching the game? I'm thinking about heading down to Johnny's at P&L for it. Should be a large group there.

ill be there ... cant wait. you think lots of people will be there?

|Zach|
06-10-2010, 09:09 PM
So, who's up for heading to P&L with me on Saturday morning to catch teh game?

Be warned that is where the hub of English supporters watching the game in KC.

Silock
06-10-2010, 09:16 PM
Be warned that is where the hub of English supporters watching the game in KC.

So? That's where the American Outlaws and the official KC Wizards watch parties are.

Reaper16
06-10-2010, 10:09 PM
Well, fuck.

That's two of these I have to take the Dutch.

I've never had this particular incarnation, but I loves me some Trappist Ale.

How does it compare to each of the Chimay's?
Chimay doesn't brew a Quadrupel, but the closest Chimay beer to a Quadrupel is Chimay Blue (a Belgian Dark Strong Ale). Koningshoven Quadrupel is comparable to the other Trappist Quad that you can easily find: the superior Rochefort 10. For a more local example of a Quadrupel, try Schlafly Quadrupel or Boulevard [Smokestack Series] The Sixth Glass.

OnTheWarpath15
06-10-2010, 10:27 PM
Chimay doesn't brew a Quadrupel, but the closest Chimay beer to a Quadrupel is Chimay Blue (a Belgian Dark Strong Ale). Koningshoven Quadrupel is comparable to the other Trappist Quad that you can easily find: the superior Rochefort 10. For a more local example of a Quadrupel, try Schlafly Quadrupel or Boulevard [Smokestack Series] The Sixth Glass.

Chimay Blue is my splurge beer of choice, so I'll try to find the others you recommended.

So yeah, sticking with the Dutch.

|Zach|
06-10-2010, 10:28 PM
So? That's where the American Outlaws and the official KC Wizards watch parties are.

Wizards party is in the live block not in Johnnys Tavern.

Silock
06-10-2010, 11:00 PM
They're still at P&L.

American Outlaws is at Johnny's.

WoodDraw
06-11-2010, 04:38 AM
Morning from Spain and happy World Cup. Fuck Mexico! Let the games begin...

|Zach|
06-11-2010, 06:07 AM
They're still at P&L.

American Outlaws is at Johnny's.

Yes. I understand this.

Buck
06-11-2010, 06:23 AM
I sorta feel bad for South Africa. Couldn't they have intentionally thrown them a bone for the first game or their group? I mean, after the opening ceremonies, they are going to lose. I am 99% sure of this.

Buck
06-11-2010, 06:24 AM
P.S. I'm watching this shit on Univision (Mexican channel that is in Spanish only). Why isnt it on ESPN or something? Its on ESPN3.com, but there is no commentary. At least with the Spanish commentary, I get something, but I'm much more comfortable with my English comprehension.

memyselfI
06-11-2010, 06:25 AM
Good morning, World! Play ball!!!!

Al Bundy
06-11-2010, 06:27 AM
I don't care much for soccer, but I do want to watch at least one part of a match in HD to see what it looks like.

DJay23
06-11-2010, 07:09 AM
P.S. I'm watching this shit on Univision (Mexican channel that is in Spanish only). Why isnt it on ESPN or something? Its on ESPN3.com, but there is no commentary. At least with the Spanish commentary, I get something, but I'm much more comfortable with my English comprehension.
It's on ESPN at 9:30 AM (EST) according to the Directv.
:shrug:

the Talking Can
06-11-2010, 07:17 AM
going to watch it on my desktop at work

espn 3...boo-ya

let's get it started

DaKCMan AP
06-11-2010, 07:19 AM
Ole ole ole ole, ole, ole

MMXcalibur
06-11-2010, 07:44 AM
Gettin' ready to start it up with South Africa/Mexico!
Methinks it'll end in a 1-1 draw.

Art Vader
06-11-2010, 08:32 AM
what is that weird sound buzzing in the stadium?

DaKCMan AP
06-11-2010, 08:36 AM
what is that weird sound buzzing in the stadium?

Have you never watched a soccer match before?


Ole ole ole ole, ole, ole

Art Vader
06-11-2010, 08:39 AM
Have you never watched a soccer match before?


Ole ole ole ole, ole, ole

No lol .. not a big fan of soccer, i find it kinda boring. Cool sport though, thought i'd check it out.. do they have horns or something?

DaKCMan AP
06-11-2010, 08:51 AM
No lol .. not a big fan of soccer, i find it kinda boring. Cool sport though, thought i'd check it out.. do they have horns or something?

Plastic horns.

Ole ole ole ole, ole, ole

Art Vader
06-11-2010, 08:56 AM
Plastic horns.

Ole ole ole ole, ole, ole

lol that's cool although it's on the verge of being annoying through tv speakers. pretty intense

CHENZ A!
06-11-2010, 08:58 AM
Mexico got fucked on that offsides call.
Posted via Mobile Device

penguinz
06-11-2010, 08:59 AM
ESPN 3 is fugging up. :(

Mr. Laz
06-11-2010, 09:06 AM
what kind of fugged up rules allows you to have offsides on a corner kick!!!!!!!!!!?


how stupid

why don't teams just line everyone up at mid field for all corner kicks so that nobody is down there to kick the ball in?

ModSocks
06-11-2010, 09:09 AM
Mexico was the better team in that first half, no doubt. It would be pretty embarassing for RSA to get eliminated while the world cup is in their own house.

Art Vader
06-11-2010, 09:17 AM
goaaaal BZZZZZZZZZZ

the Talking Can
06-11-2010, 09:18 AM
south africa up 1-0 over mexico!

DeezNutz
06-11-2010, 09:20 AM
Mexico got ****ed on that offsides call.
Posted via Mobile Device

Big time.

Replay!!!!

DJJasonp
06-11-2010, 09:20 AM
Big time.

Replay!!!!

By the rules....it was a good call.

ModSocks
06-11-2010, 09:23 AM
FUCK. I cant listen to the game

Anyone have a link to to the game somewhere? ESPN is fucking up

penguinz
06-11-2010, 09:24 AM
what kind of fugged up rules allows you to have offsides on a corner kick!!!!!!!!!!?


how stupid

why don't teams just line everyone up at mid field for all corner kicks so that nobody is down there to kick the ball in?There is no offside (there is no 'S' ;) ) on a corner kick.

There can be offside from the first touch after the ball is played in from the corner kick.

DeezNutz
06-11-2010, 09:25 AM
By the rules....it was a good call.

How? There was a defender on the goal line.

ModSocks
06-11-2010, 09:31 AM
Goddamnit man, Leave it to ESPN to fuck it all up. I can't get the fucking game on their retarded ass player

penguinz
06-11-2010, 09:32 AM
How? There was a defender on the goal line.If I had any freaking way to see what happened I would explain it but ESPN sucks ass.

ModSocks
06-11-2010, 09:33 AM
If I had any freaking way to see what happened I would explain it but ESPN sucks ass.

THIS. do you have the player up at least? My fucking player plays all of their retarded ass shows but the cast for the game doesnt work

Unfucking believable

ModSocks
06-11-2010, 09:35 AM
This is driving me insane. Seriously, how can you fuck this up?

penguinz
06-11-2010, 09:36 AM
THIS. do you have the player up at least? My ****ing player plays all of their retarded ass shows but the cast for the game doesnt work

Un****ing believableI had it up then it crashed my browser. When I went back to espn 3 and selected my provider to login I got page not found. Now they do not even have the remote login link posted. :(

DeezNutz
06-11-2010, 09:36 AM
If I had any freaking way to see what happened I would explain it but ESPN sucks ass.

If you didn't see it, how did you know the call was correct? The announcers, in-game, didn't think it was an infraction.

Could be wrong, though.

ModSocks
06-11-2010, 09:38 AM
I had it up then it crashed my browser. When I went back to espn 3 and selected my provider to login I got page not found. Now they do not even have the remote login link posted. :(

I finally got it to work right now. The links on the front page that say "click here to listen live to Mexico Vs. South Africa" doesn't even take you to the game. It takes you to whatever fucktard host is on the air.

I don't remember how I navigated to it, but I got it, finally.

penguinz
06-11-2010, 09:39 AM
I finally got it to work right now. The links on the front page that say "click here to listen live to Mexico Vs. South Africa" doesn't even take you to the game. It takes you to whatever ****tard host is on the air.

I don't remember how I navigated to it, but I got it, finally.Does your browser have the link?

Art Vader
06-11-2010, 09:40 AM
goal mex too easy lol

penguinz
06-11-2010, 09:40 AM
If you didn't see it, how did you know the call was correct? The announcers, in-game, didn't think it was an infraction.

Could be wrong, though.I never said it was. I said there can not be an offside off of the initial kick on a corner kick. It would have to have come off of the next play of the ball.

ModSocks
06-11-2010, 09:42 AM
Does your browser have the link?

The Cast is behind though by at least 30-45 seconds

http://espn.go.com/espnradio/player?rd=1#/worldcup/?callsign=WORLDCUP1

Saulbadguy
06-11-2010, 09:42 AM
Crappy defense by SA

Mr. Laz
06-11-2010, 09:43 AM
There is no offside (there is no 'S' ;) ) on a corner kick.

There can be offside from the first touch after the ball is played in from the corner kick.
whatever .... stupid ass rules for soccer

a corner kick starts on end line ... how can the split sec between the kick and the touch allow for "offside" to happen?!?

retarded ass rule ... no wonder soccer is teh ghey


why not move all your defenders up to the midfield line and make a corner kick just against the goalie?

penguinz
06-11-2010, 09:44 AM
The Cast is behind though by at least 30-45 seconds

http://espn.go.com/espnradio/player?rd=1#/worldcup/?callsign=WORLDCUP1I was hoping you had the video feed. :(

Saulbadguy
06-11-2010, 09:45 AM
I'm watching via channelsurfing.net

ModSocks
06-11-2010, 09:51 AM
I'm watching via channelsurfing.net

Got a link?

the Talking Can
06-11-2010, 09:52 AM
espn 3 working fine for me...a little buffering

but i'm on a univ. pipe



and SA just missed a golden chance!

Saulbadguy
06-11-2010, 09:53 AM
http://channelsurfing.net/watch-fifa-world-cup.html
http://channelsurfing.net/watch-fifa-world-cup-2.html
http://channelsurfing.net/watch-fifa-world-cup-3.html
http://channelsurfing.net/watch-fifa-world-cup-4.html

I'm watching #3 - it's in English.

KC Dan
06-11-2010, 09:55 AM
why not move all your defenders up to the midfield line and make a corner kick just against the goalie?because it'd be a race to the ball and they'd score every time.

ModSocks
06-11-2010, 09:58 AM
Gettin' ready to start it up with South Africa/Mexico!
Methinks it'll end in a 1-1 draw.

Congrats

penguinz
06-11-2010, 10:01 AM
http://channelsurfing.net/watch-fifa-world-cup.html
http://channelsurfing.net/watch-fifa-world-cup-2.html
http://channelsurfing.net/watch-fifa-world-cup-3.html
http://channelsurfing.net/watch-fifa-world-cup-4.html

I'm watching #3 - it's in English.thanks

penguinz
06-11-2010, 10:17 AM
a corner kick starts on end line ... how can the split sec between the kick and the touch allow for "offside" to happen?!?

I just saw the replay. it was a good call. When the Mexican player heads the ball the player he heads the ball to is in the offside position. Offiside position is when the player is “nearer to his opponents’ goal line” means that any part of a player’s
head, body or feet is nearer to his opponents’ goal line than both the
ball and the second-last opponent.

The keeper has come out and is the second to last defender in this situation.

http://img808.imageshack.us/img808/1256/offside.png