St. Louis Cardinals @ Kansas City Royals Game Thread (6/25)

[alnorth]

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<td>Final</td> <td> 1 </td> <td> 2 </td><td> 3 </td><td> 4 </td><td> 5 </td><td> 6 </td><td> 7 </td><td> 8 </td><td> 9 </td><td> R </td><td> H </td><td> E </td></tr>
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<tr> <td> KC (31-43) </td> <td> 0 </td> <td> 0 </td><td> 3 </td><td> 0 </td><td> 0 </td><td> 0 </td><td> 0 </td><td> 1 </td><td> X </td><td> 4 </td><td> 10 </td><td> 1 </td></tr>
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Loss, (0-3) Jeff Suppan 5IP 3R 3ER 2BB 3K
Dennys Reyes 1⅓IP 0R 0ER 0BB 1K
Mitchell Boggs 1⅔IP 1R 1ER 0BB 1K

VS.

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Win, (3-8) Zack Greinke 8IP 2R 1ER 2BB 6K
Save, (18) Joakim Soria 1IP 0R 0ER 0BB 0K

Home Runs

none

Royals Prospects Today

AAA: Alex Gordon, (LF) 3/5, 1K, 1HR (1 triple)
AAA: Kila Ka'aihue, (1B) 1/3, 2BB, 1K, 1HR
AA: Mike Moustakas day off
Adv. A: Eric Hosmer, (1B) 1/4 (1 double)

Starting Lineups

STL

1. Skip Schumaker, 2B/LF
2. Matt Holliday, LF
2. Yadier Molina, C
3. Albert Pujols, 1B
4. Ryan Ludwick, DH
5. Colby Rasmus, CF
6. Felipe Lopez, SS
7. David Freese, 3B
8. Jason LaRue, C
8. Aaron Miles, ph/2B
9. Randy Winn, RF

KC

1. Scott Podsednik, LF
2. Jason Kendall, C
3. David DeJesus, RF
4. Billy Butler, 1B
5. Jose Guillen, DH
5. Willie Bloomquist, pr/DH
6. Alberto Callaspo, 3B
7. Mike Aviles, 2B
8. Mitch Maier, CF
9. Yuniesky Betancourt, SS

[alnorth]

Jeff Suppan? I would have thought the Cardinals would have had a better option vs Greinke.

[Chiefspants]

Jeff Suppan? I would have thought the Cardinals would have had a better option vs Greinke.

Meh, they wanted to play against someone that he could hold to one run or less.

[alanm]

Did the Cardinals bus crash yet?

[alnorth]

Lineups are now up

[SnakeXJones]

thank god Guillen is back at DH

[chefsos]

Sort of a hijack...

Philly at Toronto has been relocated to Philly with the Blue Jays as home team, DH, etc. Ryan Howard is the Phils' DH and (Royals fans will love this) the 1B is Ross Gload.

And Gload just drove in a run.

[ImAWalkingCorpse]

Jason Kendall at the 2 hole makes no sense...

[BillSelfsTrophycase]

Jason Kendall at the 2 hole makes no sense...

Yost has been a HUGE improvement over Hillman, but his handling of Kendall is mind boggling.

Dude should not be playing every......fucking.......game and sure as hell shouldn't be hitting second.

[Mr. Laz]

thank god Guillen is back at DH
he hasn't been terrible in the field lately

[McWickedson]

Time for the KC World Series!!

[SnakeXJones]

he hasn't been terrible in the field lately I might of missed couple games but thats news to me usual he is a risk out there

[petegz28]

Here we go again, Suppan getting calls Zack didn't. I hope this is not a theme for the night.

[petegz28]

Yost has been a HUGE improvement over Hillman, but his handling of Kendall is mind boggling.

Dude should not be playing every......****ing.......game and sure as hell shouldn't be hitting second.

Have to agree. Pena isn't very good at defense but at least he can hit.

[petegz28]

And Kendall leaves Podz hung out to dry on the hit and run.

[alnorth]

Top 1st

Schumaker singles to center
Holliday flies out to right
Pujols grounds into a 5-4-3 double play, Schumaker out at second

0 runs, 1 hit

Bottom 1st

Podsednik singles to left
Podsednik caught stealing 2-6, out at second
Kendall walks
DeJesus strikes out (looking)
Butler grounds out to shortstop

0 runs, 1 hit

[alnorth]

Top 2nd

Ludwick strikes out (swinging)
Rasmus singles to center
Lopez grounds out to first, Rasmus to second
Freese walks
LaRue strikes out (swinging)

0 runs, 1 hit

Bottom 2nd

Guillen grounds out to third
Callaspo singles to right
Aviles reaches on a 4-6 fielder's choice, Callaspo out at second
Aviles steals second
Maier flies out to right

0 runs, 1 hit

[alnorth]

In AAA, Gordon just hit a triple, followed by a 2-run homer from Kila.

[SnakeXJones]

should we be counting Z's now? well ZZ

[alnorth]

Top 3rd

Winn grounds out to pitcher
Schumaker grounds out to first 3-1
Holliday grounds out to third

0 runs, 0 hits

Bottom 3rd

Betancourt strikes out (swinging)
Podsednik triples to right
Kendall singles to left, Podsednik scores
DeJesus grounds out to third, Kendall to second
Butler doubles to right, Kendall scores
Guillen singles to right, Butler scores
Callaspo walks, Guillen to second
Aviles flies out to right

3 runs, 4 hits

[SnakeXJones]

how many pitches was thrown in that inning?

[alnorth]

how many pitches was thrown in that inning?

six

[SnakeXJones]

Finally Kendall got a hit I was hoping if he didnt I would go Tonya Harding on his knee & now Butterball with a double 2-0 KC

[Priest31kc]

3-0!

[BillSelfsTrophycase]

19 game hitting streak for trade bait

Somebody bite......please

[alnorth]

If this is going to be the strike zone, Greinke should have a nice day.

[BillSelfsTrophycase]

Well Zack, there's your run support now nail it down

[alnorth]

Top 4th

Pujols grounds out to shortstop
Ludwick grounds out to shortstop
Rasmus strikes out (looking)

0 runs, 0 hits

Bottom 4th

Maier strikes out (swinging)
Betancourt lines out to shortstop
Podsednik singles to center, Podsednik to second on an Error by LF
Kendall grounds out to shortstop

0 runs, 1 hit, 1 error

[alnorth]

wow, Kila Ka'aihue is just a walking fool. 2 walks already in the 4th inning to go with his homer.

[Pitt Gorilla]

And Kendall leaves Podz hung out to dry on the hit and run.Yeah, that RBI stunk.

[BillSelfsTrophycase]

wow, Kila Ka'aihue is just a walking fool. 2 walks already in the 4th inning to go with his homer.

Damn, how much longer are we gonna let him rot down there?

[BillSelfsTrophycase]

:clap:

Nice quick inning there

[SnakeXJones]

Wait that inning is over already lol how many pitches was that im losing count here

[alnorth]

well...

Thank you very much, Cardinals. 7 pitch inning after a 6-pitch inning. Greinke could get a complete game shutout at this rate.

[BillSelfsTrophycase]

Wait that inning is over already lol how many pitches was that im losing count here

Not very many

Zack's got 38 through 4 innings so far

[SPchief]

i thought he had 31 before that inning
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[SnakeXJones]

ok i counted a 7 pitches in that inning wow this is the zack we havent seen in awhile

[BillSelfsTrophycase]

Pods 3-3

[alnorth]

Top 5th

Lopez grounds out to pitcher
Freese grounds out to shortstop
LaRue grounds out 1-6-3

0 runs, 0 hits

Bottom 5th

DeJesus flies out to center
Butler grounds out to second
Guillen flies out to left

0 runs, 0 hits

[alnorth]

ok i counted a 7 pitches in that inning wow this is the zack we havent seen in awhile

zack only had a little something to do with that, the Cardinals are hacking away today. They apparently decided that there's little point in working the count since Zack is going to attack the plate. That only works if you get the hits, if you don't, you flirt with a shutout.

[SnakeXJones]

zack only had a little something to do with that, the Cardinals are hacking away today. They apparently decided that there's little point in working the count since Zack is going to attack the plate. That only works if you get the hits, if you don't, you flirt with a shutout.I am watching this by gameday so its kind of hard to tell thanks

[BillSelfsTrophycase]

And a 7 pitch inning

45 pitches through 5

[alnorth]

wow, another 7-pitch inning. It is way too late for St. Louis to start working the count now, Zack's only up to 45 pitches so they are stuck with him for the rest of the game.

[alnorth]

Top 6th

Winn doubles to left
Schumaker singles to left, Winn to third
Holliday grounds out to pitcher, Schumaker to second
Pujols walks
Ludwick grounds into a 5-4-3 double play, Pujols out at second

0 runs, 2 hits

Bottom 6th

Dennys Reyes relieves Suppan

Callaspo singles to center
Aviles flies out to right
Maier strikes out (swinging)
Betancourt flies out to left

0 runs, 1 hit

[alnorth]

calling it: strikeout, then double play, no runs scored.

[Priest31kc]

Crap, Cmon Zack avoid the big inning.

[alnorth]

1 out, men on 2nd and 3rd, Pujols up. Why the hell are we pitching to him?

[alnorth]

1 out, men on 2nd and 3rd, Pujols up. Why the hell are we pitching to him?

answer: we aren't, we just wanted to see if he wanted to get himself out.

[BillSelfsTrophycase]

Ump squeezing him now

[BillSelfsTrophycase]

5-4-3 DP

:clap:

Still 3-0

[Priest31kc]

HELL YA GREINKE!

[SnakeXJones]

:thumb:

[alnorth]

Gordon just hit a solo homer in AAA

[SPchief]

the whole stadium was on their feet for that pitch and he only ones left standing were in blue
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[ChiefsCountry]

Greinke is such a stud. Bases loaded and gets them to DP.
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[tk13]

Edwin Jackson of the D'backs is one out from a no hitter in Tampa.

[tk13]

And Jackson gets it... walked 8 guys... but it's a no-hitter.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Edwin Jackson of the D'backs is one out from a no hitter in Tampa.

Got it.

What's with all the no hitters/perfect games?

[SnakeXJones]

And Jackson gets it... walked 8 guys... but it's a no-hitter. It took 130+ pitches his arm is probably numb

[AndChiefs]

Got it.

What's with all the no hitters/perfect games?

149 pitches...

[tk13]

Jackson also through 149 pitches... wow. 8 BB, 6 K

[SnakeXJones]

Jackson also through 149 pitches... wow. 8 BB, 6 K Well shit even worse

[BillSelfsTrophycase]

149 pitches...

Gil Meche's right arm (God rest its soul) would be proud

[alnorth]

Top 7th

Rasmus strikes out (swinging)
Lopez grounds out to second
Freese strikes out (looking)

0 runs, 0 hits

Bottom 7th

Podsednik grounds out to second

Mitchell Boggs relieves Reyes

Kendall hit by pitch
DeJesus reaches on a 6-4 fielder's choice, Kendall out at second
Butler grounds out to third

0 runs, 0 hits

[alnorth]

Top 8th

Aaron Miles bats for LaRue

Miles singles to center
Winn strikes out (swinging)
Schumaker singles to left, Miles to second
Holliday flies out to right, Miles to third
Pujols grounds into a 6-4 fielder's choice, Schumaker out at second

0 runs, 2 hits

Bottom 8th

Miles comes in at 2B

Yadier Molina replaces Holliday and comes in at C

Schumaker moves to LF

Guillen singles to center

Willie Bloomquist runs for Guillen

Callaspo singles to right, Bloomquist to third
Aviles pops out to shortstop
Maier reaches on a 4-6 fielder's choice, Callaspo out at second, Bloomquist scores
Betancourt strikes out (swinging)

1 run, 2 hits

[Vette on Route 66]

Well shit even worse

What's with all the pansies here brainwashed by Rob Neyer? You guys are like parrots.

It's Major League ****ing Baseball. I pay hard earned money to watch these guys so I want to see them put their well being on the line at a chance at glory.

Anybody who wanted A.J. Hinch to pull Jackson for one of his gas can relievers can kiss my ass:cuss:

There is a time and place for pampering pitchers and tonight wasn't one of them.

[SnakeXJones]

What's with all the pansies here brainwashed by Rob Neyer? You guys are like parrots.

It's Major League ****ing Baseball. I pay hard earned money to watch these guys so I want to see them put their well being on the line at a chance at glory.

Anybody who wanted A.J. Hinch to pull Jackson for one of his gas can relievers can kiss my ass:cuss:

There is a time and place for pampering pitchers and tonight wasn't one of them.
140+ pitches is extremely hard a players shoulder and arm I wouldnt be surprised if he has a meche type injury soon

[BillSelfsTrophycase]

Nice recovery Zack

[tk13]

Great job by Greinke tonight.

[BillSelfsTrophycase]

140+ pitches is extremely hard a players shoulder and arm I wouldnt be surprised if he has a meche type injury soon

It is tough, but a manager would have to have titanium balls to pull a pitcher with a no-no going....The media would crucify him

[petegz28]

have to bring soria in for the 9th

[SnakeXJones]

It is tough, but a manager would have to have titanium balls to pull a pitcher with a no-no going....The media would crucify him Very true but not worth a risk on the players arm but im just a type of guy that would pull him worrying about that risk than a media frenzy

[Vette on Route 66]

140+ pitches is extremely hard a players shoulder and arm I wouldnt be surprised if he has a meche type injury soon

It was a one time deal.

It's not a case of prolonged and consistent abuse of a young starting pitcher.

[BillSelfsTrophycase]

1st and 3rd no out, have to get an insurance run or two here

[alnorth]

Very true but not worth a risk on the players arm but im just a type of guy that would pull him worrying about that risk than a media frenzy

I'll have to disagree here. 99% of the time, I'm with you, but I don't even care if the pitcher is only 22 years old in his rookie season, pitchers do not get chances at a no-hitter every day. You keep him in, send him to the trainer afterward, and plan to skip his next start.

[SnakeXJones]

It was a one time deal.

It's not a case of prolonged and consistent abuse of a young starting pitcher. than your lucky you dont have dusty baker or a trey hillman to ruin your pitchers than

[Vette on Route 66]

Very true but not worth a risk on the players arm but im just a type of guy that would pull him worrying about that risk than a media frenzy

Pitching is a risk in general. It's a unnatural motion. A hurler can blow his arm out in the bullpen.

Fans pay good money to watch pro baseball, they shouldn't be given a watered down product because of gun shy wussies like you with no balls.

[alnorth]

Pitching is a risk in general. It's a unnatural motion. A hurler can blow his arm out in the bullpen.

Fans pay good money to watch pro baseball, they shouldn't be given a watered down product because of gun shy wussies like you with no balls.

well, if we are only talking about a mere complete game or shutout, you pull him way before 149 pitches. A win (which you'll probably get anyway) is not worth trashing a multi-million dollar arm.

However, no-hitters and perfect games are different. pitchers can take some very occasional abuse here and there.

[SnakeXJones]

I'll have to disagree here. 99% of the time, I'm with you, but I don't even care if the pitcher is only 22 years old in his rookie season, pitchers do not get chances at a no-hitter every day. You keep him in, send him to the trainer afterward, and plan to skip his next start.I am agreeing with that it's a amazing accomplishment but if its a one time thing making him going over that many pitches than he deserved to atleast try and he did so congrats to him but if it was greinke or meche(well his arm is gone totally anyway) i would have a major problem

[SnakeXJones]

is kendall or bentacourt gone yet?

[alnorth]

Top 9th

Ludwick reaches on catcher's interference
Rasmus doubles to center, Ludwick to third

Joakim Soria relieves Greinke

Lopez sacrifices (fly) to right, Rasmus to third, Ludwick scores
Freese singles to right, Rasmus scores
Miles grounds out 1-6-3, Freese to second
Winn flies out to right

2 runs, 2 hits, 1 error

Royals win, 4-2

[Vette on Route 66]

well, if we are only talking about a mere complete game or shutout, you pull him way before 149 pitches. A win (which you'll probably get anyway) is not worth trashing a multi-million dollar arm.

However, no-hitters and perfect games are different. pitchers can take some very occasional abuse here and there.

You won't get any arguments from me here.

The 25-and-under crowd are the ones who should be limited to a strict 110 pitch count though.

When a pitcher matures, I would like to see managers push them a little more. I don't have a problem watching Roy Halladay or C.C. Sabathia get stretched out to 125-130 pitches occassionally.

[BillSelfsTrophycase]

Nail it down Zack

[BillSelfsTrophycase]

Dammit, catcher's interference

[BillSelfsTrophycase]

They need to get Soria up

Edit: I guess he already was

[alnorth]

well, crap. I had Greinke's career CG and SHO milestones researched and ready to go.

[alanm]

Should of let Greinke go for the CG shutout.

[petegz28]

all this started with Kendall taking away an out

[AndChiefs]

They always have to make it interesting don't they.

[Buck]

This game is being shown on MLB Network right now if you cant watch it elsewhere....nevermind

[BillSelfsTrophycase]

Nice play Yuni (for once)

[petegz28]

good play by Yuni...great play by Yuni, even

[BillSelfsTrophycase]

Royals win!

[petegz28]

That's the game. Royals win!

[alnorth]

Should of let Greinke go for the CG shutout.

I was fine with pulling him. Greinke had his chance, and even got a mulligan after the interference. At 2nd and 3rd no out, the shutout is basically gone anyway, and we were getting to the point where Yost needed to worry about nailing down the win.

[Mr. Laz]

DEATH TO THE SHITBIRDS!!!

[Sure-Oz]

Edwin Jackson threw a 149 pitch no hitter, holy shit

Time for his arm to fall of he had 8 walks