**Royals @ Chicago White Sox 7/10**

[petegz28]

Royals had runners on 1st and 2nd 0 outs and DDJ got fucked by the Umpf or called strike 3 on a pitch well out of the zone.

Then Billay strikes out and Podz gets shot stealing 3rd for the DP.

[tk13]

This game is on WGN.

[milkman]

Butler struck out swinging, but he got the chance to do that when the ump called the pitch before that a ball wehn it was obviously a strike.

[KCUnited]

Billy's a dp waiting to happen the moment he digs in.

[milkman]

Billy's a dp waiting to happen the moment he digs in.

This team needs some power, and a guy the size of Butler should be a big bopper.

9 HRs at this point of the season is pathetic.

[tk13]

This team needs some power, and a guy the size of Butler should be a big bopper.

9 HRs at this point of the season is pathetic.

I think he should be farther along... but he did just turn 24 a couple months ago. He's definitely not a finished product yet.

[Reaper16]

Billy was never a huge home run hitter. That year in High Desert doesn't count; biggest inflation park ever.

Have I mentioned how much I hate Hawk Harrelson? Because I do hate him.

[milkman]

I think he should be farther along... but he did just turn 24 a couple months ago. He's definitely not a finished product yet.

I get that he's young, but your first thought was on the money.

He should be further along.

[milkman]

Billy was never a huge home run hitter. That year in High Desert doesn't count; biggest inflation park ever.

Have I mentioned how much I hate Hawk Harrelson? Because I do hate him.

A 240 lb singles hitter is fucking useless.

[Reaper16]

A 240 lb singles hitter is fucking useless.
He's also a doubles hitter.

[milkman]

He's also a doubles hitter.

I'm making a point.

At 240 lbs, that useles bastard needs to be hitting 30+ homers every year.

[tk13]

Yeah but it's not like Butler has bombed like Gordon or Teahen. Butler's shown he can hit. He just needs to develop power... which isn't absurd.

[Reaper16]

I'm making a point.

At 240 lbs, that useles bastard needs to be hitting 30+ homers every year.
And while I agree that the team needs his power to develop, sooner than later, I'm also against your hyperbole regarding him. Butler is not useless.

[milkman]

Have I mentioned how much I hate Hawk Harrelson? Because I do hate him.

Baseball is best watched at the yard.

When watching on TV, the annoucers are an important part of enjoying the game.

When I was kid watching the Royals, Denny Matthews and Fred White made the game enjoyable.

When I moved to California, I watched the Dodgers, even though I hate the Dodgers, because Vin Scully is the very best at what he does.

The games on WGN, ESPN and TBS are harder than hell to watch because the announcers simply suck ass.

[tk13]

I also think playing at the K is part of it. Just never been a great HR park for anyone.

[JoeyChuckles]

This team needs some power, and a guy the size of Butler should be a big bopper.

9 HRs at this point of the season is pathetic.

Seriously, our team record for home runs in a season is 36. How is that possible? And I know the K is not a home run park.

Cmon. Chicks dig the long ball.

[milkman]

And while I agree that the team needs his power to develop, sooner than later, I'm also against your hyperbole regarding him. Butler is not useless.

Matter of opinion.

A 240 lb first baseman needs to be a banger.

If he is just a 300 hitter with some doubles power, your team is never going to be a real contender.

[tk13]

And it's raining.

[milkman]

Seriously, our team record for home runs in a season is 36. How is that possible? And I know the K is not a home run park.

Cmon. Chicks dig the long ball.

I hated the way the game evolved into one in which teams went from station to station waitng for the big HR.

I enjoyed watching Frak White and Willie Wilson more that John Mayberry and Willie Aiken.

But the fact is, your lineup needs a bat that is feared in the middle to ever hope to be anything more than a wannabe.

[Reaper16]

Hawk just sang, sang, the "save big money at Menard's" jingle. I want to shake the life out of him.

[Reaper16]

I hated the way the game evolved into one in which teams went from station to station waitng for the big HR.

I enjoyed watching Frak White and Willie Wilson more that John Mayberry and Willie Aiken.

But the fact is, your lineup needs a bat that is feared in the middle to ever hope to be anything more than a wannabe.
He can still become that guy. Easily.

So can Mike Moustakas, who is being promoted to AAA after the All-Star break.

[BillSelfsTrophycase]

They didn't tag him?

[doomy3]

I think Billy may be standing on first base when we get back from commercial.

[BillSelfsTrophycase]

Ruling it a foul tip now

[doomy3]

LMAO

[Sure-Oz]

Holy shit guillen, wtf are you doing man? love the hustle but damn he is struggling

[tk13]

That may have been the ugliest play in history. Guillen looked like a wounded animal running and they throw a 14 hopper to 3rd base.

[Sure-Oz]

That may have been the ugliest play in history. Guillen looked like a wounded animal running and they throw a 14 hopper to 3rd base.

That was ugly, his leg is hurting my goodness

[tk13]

OMG! IT'S A RAINBOW!

OHHHHHHHH!!!!!

WHAT DOES IT MEAN?

[Sure-Oz]

Guillen is in really bad shape. this guy is not going to get traded and probably shouldnt be playing

[tk13]

That was ugly, his leg is hurting my goodness

Seriously. If Maier hits an inside the park HR here he'll get home before Guillen does. And Guillen's at third base.

[JoeyChuckles]

Living outside of Kansas City for the first time in my life is tough enough. I have to cherish the times the Royals are actually on TV here. But if I have to hear "He gone" one more time, I am going to turn off the television. Do White Sox fans even like their announcers?

[milkman]

Hawk Harrelson really does suck ass.

[milkman]

Living outside of Kansas City for the first time in my life is tough enough. I have to cherish the times the Royals are actually on TV here. But if I have to hear "He gone" one more time, I am going to turn off the television. Do White Sox fans even like their announcers?

Seriuosly, they'd chalk it up as a moment of insanity if you were to storm the annoucer's booth and choke the life out of him.

[DeezNutz]

He can still become that guy. Easily.


While true, I wouldn't bet on it.

Butler is a very productive bat, but I honestly see him as 2-hole. No, he can't lay down a bunt, but luckily it's not '76.

[Reaper16]

*turns off game*

[tk13]

Nice throw Alberto.

[Sure-Oz]

Wow, we are shitting the bed, hopefully this will shutup the 'we're only 9 back' talk

[milkman]

Thta was the best throw ever there Callapso!

Wow!

[Reaper16]

While true, I wouldn't bet on it.

Butler is a very productive bat, but I honestly see him as 2-hole. No, he can't lay down a bunt, but luckily it's not '76.
In a lineup that has Myers, Moustakas, Hosmer, Gordon (in that order 3-6), I agree; #2.

[DeezNutz]

Wow, we are shitting the bed, hopefully this will shutup the 'we're only 9 back' talk

If that means that Dayton will wisely trade the vets on this team, I'm fine with sucking shit in Chicago on this trip. It's the "reality" series.

[milkman]

While true, I wouldn't bet on it.

Butler is a very productive bat, but I honestly see him as 2-hole. No, he can't lay down a bunt, but luckily it's not '76.

George Brett never hit .300 in the minors.

[BillSelfsTrophycase]

JFC

So much for this one

[Sure-Oz]

If that means that Dayton will wisely trade the vets on this team, I'm fine with sucking shit in Chicago on this trip. It's the "reality" series.

Agreed.....

and this is back to reality indeed

[Sure-Oz]

Bannister is terrible...im sure he'll think about this loss and not get any sleep and think more and more how he sucks

[DeezNutz]

George Brett never hit .300 in the minors.

Not enough natural loft on Butler's swing for him to be a major HR guy. Edgar Martinez is damn near a perfect ideal projection.

Consistently hit in the 20s (one 37 HR season in 2000--roids?).

[tk13]

I'm pretty sure some of Bannister's worst numbers come against the White Sox. I think he had a 9+ ERA in this ballpark.

[Sure-Oz]

Not enough natural loft on Butler's swing for him to be a major HR guy. Edgar Martinez is damn near a perfect ideal projection.

Consistently hit in the 20s (one 37 HR season in 2000--roids?).

Butler just needs to learn how to get the rbi edgar got

[Blankey]

2 days ago: Hey! Maybe we can contend!

Today: Dammit I want the season to be over.

[milkman]

Not enough natural loft on Butler's swing for him to be a major HR guy. Edgar Martinez is damn near a perfect ideal projection.

Consistently hit in the 20s (one 37 HR season in 2000--roids?).

Again, if he's not a 30+Hr hitter at 240 lbs, then he's not the guy I would want at first base.

How many World Series did Edgar Martinez help lead the Mariners to?

[Mr. Laz]

2 days ago: Hey! Maybe we can contend!

Today: Dammit I want the season to be over.as soon as the pressure of contender(or any other pressure tbh) comes up we wet ourselves.

[Sure-Oz]

Again, if he's not a 30+Hr hitter at 240 lbs, then he's not the guy I would want at first base.

How many World Series did Edgar Martinez help lead the Mariners to?

How about Griffey JR?

Seriously...butler is a DH only imo

[DeezNutz]

Again, if he's not a 30+Hr hitter at 240 lbs, then he's not the guy I would want at first base.

How many World Series did Edgar Martinez help lead the Mariners to?

"perfect ideal" in my last post. LMAO.

Um...yeah, I understand the thinking, but I think it depends on the roster construction. If you have mashers at the outfield corners and power at 3B/C, Butler is a fantastic addition.

While the Mariners didn't win big with Edgar, he wasn't the problem. Far from it. Same thing with Gonzo for the Chiefs. Relative to the individual player, there isn't a team in the league that wouldn't love to have him.

Now, when dumb shit executives build around a DH without power (or a Gonzo), that's when big problems emerge.

[Sure-Oz]

Isnt this ump the one that threw greinke out from the bench last year? lol

[milkman]

"perfect ideal" in my last post. LMAO.

Um...yeah, I understand the thinking, but I think it depends on the roster construction. If you have mashers at the outfield corners and power at 3B/C, Butler is a fantastic addition.

While the Mariners didn't win big with Edgar, he wasn't the problem. Far from it. Same thing with Gonzo for the Chiefs. Relative to the individual player, there isn't a team in the league that wouldn't love to have him.

Now, when dumb shit executives build around a DH without power (or a Gonzo), that's when big problems emerge.

That's what has me concerned.

It appears that Moore is building around a first baseman that lacks power.

[Sure-Oz]

That's what has me concerned.

It appears that Moore is building around a first baseman that lacks power.

I certainly hope not, i hope hes just a guy that compliments our 2 or 3 studs (i can dream)

[Sure-Oz]

I wonder if the billy butler 'replica youth bat' is really his gameday bat?

[kstater]

Ah, here comes the 15 game slide.

[tk13]

What the heck is that giant green thing? I don't recall the White Sox ever having a mascot.

[Sure-Oz]

What the heck is that giant green thing? I don't recall the White Sox ever having a mascot.

Ozzie took a shit

[Sure-Oz]

Also there is no excuse why mitch cant hit for more power with the way he is built. change teh swing...that HR he hit the other night was the most powerful shot ive seen a royal hit in years

[Sure-Oz]

Ill say this about butler, i never thought hed be adequate on the field, atleast he can play 1b some

[Reaper16]

That's what has me concerned.

It appears that Moore is building around a first baseman that lacks power.
Doesn't appear that way to me. It appears that Moore is building for a team full of people that haven't even made the big leagues yet. And he's fumbling around making poor decisions on roster management in the meantime.

[Dinny Bossa Nova]

Hawk Harrelson really does suck ass.

I've been a sox fan for almost 40 years. The Hawk has been a scourge on this organization since the day Reinsdorf made him GM.

I hate the hawk. This is an interesting website.

www.heavethehawk.com

Dinny

[milkman]

Doesn't appear that way to me. It appears that Moore is building for a team full of people that haven't even made the big leagues yet. And he's fumbling around making poor decisions on roster management in the meantime.

That's exactly what it appears he is doing.

Sitting and waiting ofr guys like Hosmer and Gordon, and filling out the roster with FA castaways until they get there.

Billy Butler is the centerpiece of it all.

[petegz28]

Wow, we scored, joy.

Bannister, please run into an AIDS tree and die in a fire.

[Reaper16]

That's exactly what it appears he is doing.

Sitting and waiting ofr guys like Hosmer and Gordon, and filling out the roster with FA castaways until they get there.

Billy Butler is the centerpiece of it all.
Butler isn't even his guy. He tried to trade Butler for Yuniesky Betancourt straight-up two years ago.

[DeezNutz]

Doesn't appear that way to me. It appears that Moore is building for a team full of people that haven't even made the big leagues yet,

except for Hochevar, which was a terrible fucking selection.

[Sure-Oz]

Hope Crow isn't hochy 2