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Mr. Laz
07-19-2010, 11:35 AM
By Jason Cole (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/expertsarchive;_ylt=AvOoUK1nIKPENAw9I1xJgBPsYNAF?author=Jason+Cole), Yahoo! Sports Jul 18, 7:43 pm EDT
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It should come as little surprise that in the midst of one of the great passing eras in NFL history, secondary play is also at an amazingly high level. From the Jets’ secondary to the ageless Broncos foursome to the amazing potential in Miami, the NFL is loaded with great CB's and safeties these days. In fact, most safeties in this era could have been good CB's 20 years ago. That’s how it has to be. You don’t see the high INT numbers of decades ago because today’s passing game is so sophisticated. That puts a premium on individual cover skills for just about everybody.
It also means that even if your fav team isn’t somewhere in the top 10, that doesn’t mean it doesn’t have a good secondary. The only questionable groups reside from roughly No. 26 down.
1. New York Jets (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/nyj/;_ylt=AsWZ73fwsBpguWvLGdRbnGLsYNAF): due respect to Oakland’s Nnamdi Asomugha (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6367/;_ylt=ArSGsF2kv88hiVycQLLAVNnsYNAF)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6367/news;_ylt=AsFefMEMR90rrUQbiwTOjWDsYNAF), Darrelle Revis (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8268/;_ylt=AmIuPJfBj9Q_gYSTqrDAT7HsYNAF)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8268/news;_ylt=AiOJYgkOLa4yN0A6CHNsymXsYNAF) is now the best CB in the game. Revis proved it during the stretch run and the playoffs last season. Sadly, Asomugha has never been on that stage. But here’s the scary thing: As good as Revis is, new fellow Jets CB Cromartie (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7768/;_ylt=AiF2uma73oOhqyWl9UvDjzDsYNAF)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7768/news;_ylt=AvpGU4UfPF96x_SXVqL_TuPsYNAF) has more athletic ability than him. Cromartie has the ability to be the second-coming of Deion Sanders. The problem is that Cromartie doesn’t have the focus and his personal life is a mess (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=Ar9NKrLOef8tx18OW.TZtPXsYNAF/SIG=13nrmdvns/**http%3A//www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/2010/03/18/2010-03-18_new_jet_cromartie_tackles_legal_trouble.html). The depth could be great with Dwight Lowery (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8890/;_ylt=Aqltgzx8U2G7K6mybh7u01DsYNAF)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8890/news;_ylt=AgnRrL1V05uXq4wc_gD.fmnsYNAF) and Kyle Wilson (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/24004/;_ylt=AvWMIMtU2NEyTQrj.dPP2ZzsYNAF)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/24004/news;_ylt=AmenJ_X66h9Lwq6TbYgxXOTsYNAF) and the safety spots will be above average with Jim Leonhard (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7442/;_ylt=At.G8d92DwmTvje1dZC5enzsYNAF)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7442/news;_ylt=AoQQT8xskNlcxWf02qcTPpjsYNAF) and Eric Smith (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7846/;_ylt=ApAdfuyYwMzRN.CHzCGKsWfsYNAF)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7846/news;_ylt=AlgKNx97.ya1zphRLTJ8Jv7sYNAF). That said, if Revis and Cromartie are as good as projected, the rest of the secondary doesn’t have to be great. The Jets allowed only eight TD passes last season and could be better this year.
2. Green Bay Packers (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/gnb/;_ylt=Altnl04azwJ_d7t1gq9yEensYNAF): While the combo of Charles Woodson (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/4271/;_ylt=AhN9W6KvRcuOZQAArU3MaQXsYNAF)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/4271/news;_ylt=Ai1GOq9I95JDmpAHOfzmfHvsYNAF), the league’s reigning DPoTY, and Al Harris (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/4609/;_ylt=AiEoLNqcmropLgYHhtF4SMrsYNAF)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/4609/news;_ylt=Au_FyyBpEXwA.7jZZ_WxbE7sYNAF), who is returning from injury, is no longer the best CB tandem in the league (you don’t have to look far to find the best pair), it’s not like they have fallen very much. Throw in Atari Bigby (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7593/;_ylt=An5Cdu8Of9dbCmFMbhXTJPfsYNAF)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7593/news;_ylt=AoP_vLxHYfVfnJJamae5b1zsYNAF) and Nick Collins (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7227/;_ylt=As4XtaMb5KvN7wCNwzkCceDsYNAF)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7227/news;_ylt=At_1ahUd08RusD31hs0QXK7sYNAF) at safety and you have an extremely quick and athletic group. If the front 7 can generate a little more pressure, they should improve on the 30 INTs from last season and reduce the 29 TD passes. The depth is really good with the likes of Jarrett Bush (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8017/;_ylt=ArPn6vR6eqU2JJIYzfM.8mzsYNAF)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8017/news;_ylt=AhH6CIWRXgKBEHKhiujZCG3sYNAF), Tramon Williams (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8212/;_ylt=AqgqpRx3gCbKg2Y.ibW9OlDsYNAF)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8212/news;_ylt=AiawGDyxJO8uO256jI2HrFjsYNAF) and Will Blackmon (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7864/;_ylt=Aprtd..mIWJ8_gfXdWR3_FTsYNAF)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7864/news;_ylt=AlRc9qwfpEGnT3gUurxZUZnsYNAF).
3. Cincinnati Bengals (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/cin/;_ylt=AgW50sWVFMAbFq0SFaC8mansYNAF): Best CB duo in the league: Johnathan Joseph (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7773/;_ylt=At_GXU3mDtmY9vZIyenNSwbsYNAF)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7773/news;_ylt=AmGNSJbtz1WgGU6fQYfxPzvsYNAF) and Leon Hall (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8272/;_ylt=AjtK3_FDd.LoJo1zFAWcpqvsYNAF)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8272/news;_ylt=AuFbdkIKRVXRdfywNXBy2l3sYNAF). Some might argue for the Green Bay combo. Others might argue for the potential of the Jets. But if you go on the results of last season, Joseph and Hall were the best. Not only are they both excellent cover guys, but they are both terrific tacklers. They are so good that they allowed the Bengals to get away with having an average front 7 and safeties. The Bengals defense is essentially built from the outside in, which works fine in this era. The rest of the secondary has major flaws. SS Roy Williams (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players;_ylt=AkMf7LMFX_6fiqH1xGdRF6_sYNAF?type=lastname&first=1&query=Roy+Williams&q=Roy+Williams) can’t cover and FS Chris Crocker (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6420/;_ylt=AnA3ttlFcd0oPipvgYal.0_sYNAF)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6420/news;_ylt=AgdxU0JzHbXYmUXgTeRWHH3sYNAF) lacks great range. The Bengals are trying their latest reclamation project with Adam “Pacman” Jones. Good luck with that.
4. Denver Broncos (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/den/;_ylt=AjARDfJZm5RhesCGmxVF_8fsYNAF): first half of last season the combo of CBs Champ Bailey (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/4655/;_ylt=AqBJLxrOghTjTBShLNanmwHsYNAF)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/4655/news;_ylt=AsB51cc_lVZdO7ZRKeSplcHsYNAF) and Andre’ Goodman (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5954/;_ylt=Apgv57mGelcBrSurwf06SUbsYNAF)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5954/news;_ylt=As8HBocUSEzsKXbjVBL0QwjsYNAF), FS Brian Dawkins (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/3558/;_ylt=AiottqyrRsDXAhrqy7lSkv3sYNAF)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/3558/news;_ylt=AmGOcRi0lkPUsp4quoET8fDsYNAF) and SS Renaldo Hill (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5650/;_ylt=AonoQ_2IeoCfSMOnAVtx_WbsYNAF)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5650/news;_ylt=AtHq_ykQiNQxWmj59BTX_EbsYNAF) were excellent. Even in the second half, they were still really good. The problem: they’re all really old and there was some inevitable regression. Bailey, Goodman and Hill are all 31 (and turning 32 before or during the season). Dawkins will be 37 before the season ends. You won’t find a smarter, more experienced secondary in the league, which allows the overall defense to function even at the worst moments. The team has Alphonso Smith (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/9301/;_ylt=AnVxyv4RSnBwinYt_pwYuKbsYNAF)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/9301/news;_ylt=ApgKUiQ4gYbGt40RsYHCQgzsYNAF) in the wings, but that’s not enough because this group could go in a hurry.
5. Baltimore Ravens (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/bal/;_ylt=AkHNTqwbIpXn1mbp8Qtlc1_sYNAF): Ravens are defined by where Ed Reed (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5910/;_ylt=Aj_aBj8EwHKdHbE8kWerG1TsYNAF)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5910/news;_ylt=AqBjMQ5V_Jg_2XbroUZOvhDsYNAF) is at this point in his career. Is he coming back? Based on his request for more money, you get the feeling he’s going to play. If so, he’s still one of the best ball-hawking safeties in the history of the game, a guy who should make the HOF despite playing only eight seasons. The CB's, Dominique Foxworth and Fabian Washington (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7199/;_ylt=AuEy7gu11.f98McBZ8OyB4jsYNAF)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7199/news;_ylt=Ak75L35HYUK9.NBuEnrPm.XsYNAF), are discarded parts that play well together. Not great, but solid. SS Dawan Landry (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7895/;_ylt=ApRX7oaFTsWbjfAl.dAHeRfsYNAF)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7895/news;_ylt=AmvUt.Z7A36ucTgIh8nSE_DsYNAF) is likewise solid.
6. Pittsburgh Steelers (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/pit/;_ylt=AurADzee7WjqVaNLMEsZ6p7sYNAF): Assuming SS Troy Polamalu (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6352/;_ylt=AmeljkRLPgQUpooyDgEdFuXsYNAF)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6352/news;_ylt=As_mfslN3wQ96Zt89sq6Py_sYNAF) returns to health, the Steelers will have the same starting secondary this season that they had during their 2008 championship run. That’s both good and bad. It’s good because the unit was strong enough to get past strong-throwing teams. It’s bad because, aside from Polamalu, that group isn’t all that fast. Sure, CB Ike Taylor (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6461/;_ylt=AnsQIr0eznG88FP4ff_LtwbsYNAF)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6461/news;_ylt=AoXLfrl821mjfwiWK3H6BrTsYNAF) can still run as well as most CB's in the league, but CB Bryant McFadden (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7238/;_ylt=AhDMPtZHMCPEXvqSoSqO_NnsYNAF)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7238/news;_ylt=AvR6iVuzq36VXCuXITWsVN_sYNAF) and FS Ryan Clark (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6210/;_ylt=ArWl3dLVRihGXfJY8eIzr5bsYNAF)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6210/news;_ylt=Aqs5XCH3.FyeIBLnmLB54e7sYNAF) aren’t speed demons. The depth is decent with guys like Willie Gay and Will Allen (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players;_ylt=AsVePBmDR3Maliyf3_O0M2bsYNAF?type=lastname&first=1&query=Will+Allen&q=Will+Allen), but hardly remarkable.
7. San Diego Chargers (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/sdg/;_ylt=AkdgaInYs0NbIqrGtJeSF7jsYNAF): Chargers grew tired of waiting for Cromartie to join the program, so they chucked his amazing athletic ability for the quiet-yet-consistent style of Quentin Jammer (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5891/;_ylt=Aj_xUkYhczTQ0QASL.8OZUjsYNAF)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5891/news;_ylt=Avi8ozjcfRXBXIaNDwFvDCfsYNAF) and Antoine Cason (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8804/;_ylt=AsTleHjcsF7wwo18yv8u5ZbsYNAF)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8804/news;_ylt=AvbwmQRfGfaxz7zmsQrpELLsYNAF). Cason has some juice to his athletic ability, but he’s a long way from Cromartie. The depth should be good with Nathan Vasher (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6869/;_ylt=AhVEY1ZCbl7_G1ao.7tV2I7sYNAF)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6869/news;_ylt=AovybThpwIGERtPOlB4IrwTsYNAF) and Donald Strickland (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6426/;_ylt=AsSYVzfOFIzLdsMJ1RV4i4jsYNAF)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6426/news;_ylt=Atxei6XP2Tu2E.Q_Gbr1oG7sYNAF). The key to this group is how much the team is able to get out of safety Eric Weddle (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8291/;_ylt=Am5Y6AeTimHGlNop4nQL29DsYNAF)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8291/news;_ylt=AlFMnsmRS7MDdU8ePR4rsfvsYNAF). Weddle is a terrific player, but he hasn’t played to his full potential over an entire season.
8. New Orleans Saints (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/nor/;_ylt=ArtUoULM8z79niR1OHvR0yzsYNAF): At the beginning of last season, this group had a middle-of-the-road look. Somewhere along the way, CB Jabari Greer (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7032/;_ylt=AmXABqixywTATKK._f891STsYNAF)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7032/news;_ylt=Aqul8rnzYUcxelgwXMhYzvbsYNAF) became one of the most consistent cover guys in the league and Tracy Porter (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8817/;_ylt=AjmgR2bkzW65WF3xjElfAcXsYNAF)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8817/news;_ylt=AlE8.O6LN7WAy4zkXS12si7sYNAF) emerged as a wonderful complementary CB. The safety play of Roman Harper (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7792/;_ylt=AqJPsOHcypxkI.oNqpORJxzsYNAF)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7792/news;_ylt=AhGG0r6jZy_WF.mge8UkmobsYNAF) and Darren Sharper (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/3921/;_ylt=AhZOt08UC1GEEgW1UP8MH97sYNAF)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/3921/news;_ylt=AnnJfEmnlpD2iICFlCfFeADsYNAF) was consistent, although Sharper showed some decline. The most important element is that the group fits with what DC Gregg Williams likes to do. Beyond that, the Saints are hoping that 2009 1st rd pick Malcolm Jenkins (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/9278/;_ylt=Aos9RsUHzbzfDwiZ.HPoixfsYNAF)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/9278/news;_ylt=AuMgMqjzLCNtBBIjube94r_sYNAF) becomes a playmaking safety to replace Sharper at some point, and that 2010 1st rder Patrick Robinson (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/24007/;_ylt=Avk6Lby0PBbEJNGZOY0.4jXsYNAF)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/24007/news;_ylt=AteiJ879nihHUU_2vH9h1ZLsYNAF) solidifies the depth.
9. Arizona Cardinals (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/ari/;_ylt=AnosLkKlgwix3QmzyO0R2QLsYNAF): Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8793/;_ylt=An0zN_kHiIT7NoJ.hAD89NbsYNAF)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8793/news;_ylt=AhCjqsG_gsdOBgfAthqVgo_sYNAF) can claim to be the best CB in the NFL with the last name “Cromartie” the past two years. That’s not a joke. It’s very serious and says a lot about how consistent DRC has been. It also speaks to how little Antonio Cromartie has done, but that’s another matter. DRC not only has 10 ints in his two seasons, he has an impressive total of 44 passes def. That’s a strong total and speaks to how often he gets to the ball. He’s also a strong tackler despite his narrow build. As for the rest, SS Adrian Wilson (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5511/;_ylt=ApoBU19t_fS.ixpbXKe.XCfsYNAF)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5511/news;_ylt=AlrHl9kxIVfzijdHQEM0J8_sYNAF) is a big hitter, but probably is living more on reputation than actual performance. FS Kerry Rhodes (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7299/;_ylt=Aj7N9Ncoaip46DtKoIsVjMzsYNAF)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7299/news;_ylt=AvNdZ7QsYlm4j8.DuVGQaXDsYNAF) also gets by on a lot of rep, mostly from his own big talk. The CB depth is, at best, weak after DRC.
10. Oakland Raiders (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/oak/;_ylt=At4e1vOtYQwx0lOfsGIk8_DsYNAF): Any unit that starts with Nnamdi Asomugha is going to be well above average Asomugha is either the best or second-best CB in the NFL, depending on your view of Darrelle Revis. Either way, Asomugha is great and rarely gets challenged. While he’s not overwhelmingly strong, he uses great leverage. He is the ultimate technician. As for the rest, it would be nice to celebrate the Raiders for finding a bunch of solid-to-good starters like CB Chris Johnson (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players;_ylt=AtMnjg_QS8QlqbIypmrYuD7sYNAF?type=lastname&first=1&query=Chris+Johnson&q=Chris+Johnson), SS Tyvon Branch (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8877/;_ylt=AmlWKGnbBcwS56NvjqzhaDvsYNAF)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8877/news;_ylt=AtUMtUJmuyUuu6WGFegwgdnsYNAF) and FS Hiram Eugene (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8042/;_ylt=AsjT27REslzZUPasnVMQgYfsYNAF)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8042/news;_ylt=AvW2kxQ2XuhvloJhpqiXVEzsYNAF). Unfortunately, their emergence only highlights the failure of such high picks as Michael Huff (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7756/;_ylt=AqdqqDZ4hmmD5cFZkW5GMebsYNAF)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7756/news;_ylt=AsD9dNIn4eDbmW_1H0FpfOHsYNAF), Stanford Routt (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7214/;_ylt=AliSR64LA8B7GRWfTHU9QAPsYNAF)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7214/news;_ylt=AvH8fawC1lSYb1aq7adIzHHsYNAF) and Mike Mitchell (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/9311/;_ylt=ApCL06mwzDsvTTU0uotGMi7sYNAF)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/9311/news;_ylt=AtSxSfDFrt4.6G_IUoUwO57sYNAF).
25. Kansas City Chiefs (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/kan/;_ylt=AnP2iE2VEsghcsrgiuTr.PfsYNAF): Chiefs may have struck … OK, gold is too strong a word for the double-Brandon combo of Flowers and Carr at CB, but the pair of 2008 draft picks have been solid and certainly good enough for the type of defense the Chiefs want to play. The real key is FS Eric Berry (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/23980/;_ylt=Al_65jJeS2AlWOi8B.H8WJPsYNAF)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/23980/news;_ylt=AkFldnOHd2P7xDYrnh6CosfsYNAF). GM Scott Pioli went against his better judgment in taking a safety so high in the draft, but Berry provides ample reason. He’s a strong hitter and a ballhawk. Some see him as another Ronnie Lott. Even being just a little shy of that would be fine.

greg63
07-19-2010, 11:37 AM
Not sexual???

You should specify that. :p

Reaper16
07-19-2010, 11:40 AM
Seems stupidly low to me.

KCrockaholic
07-19-2010, 11:48 AM
This Jason Cole guy is a freaking joke. He has no idea what he is doing, yet again.

ModSocks
07-19-2010, 11:50 AM
Wow. That list is fucking retarded. Chargers at #7? Are you kidding me?

Dave Lane
07-19-2010, 11:52 AM
Chiefs at #25? Seriously? I'm not much of a homer but holy cow!

RJ
07-19-2010, 12:00 PM
No way the Ravens should be #5, their secondary was horrible last season.

KCrockaholic
07-19-2010, 12:11 PM
No way the Ravens should be #5, their secondary was horrible last season.

I think the additions of Cody and Kindle will help that defense a lot. They still have Ed Reed.

Gadzooks
07-19-2010, 01:19 PM
I even think the Chiefs are too low on this list.

kysirsoze
07-19-2010, 01:23 PM
I think the additions of Cody and Kindle will help that defense a lot. They still have Ed Reed.

Has he confirmed that he's not retiring?

BossChief
07-19-2010, 01:23 PM
just another BS writer that doesnt do his homework.

vailpass
07-19-2010, 01:24 PM
I'll take any football reading I can get right about now. Please Lord let camp start soon. A little Hard Knocks and before we know it we are back to the best time of the year.

OnTheWarpath15
07-19-2010, 01:34 PM
just another BS writer that doesnt do his homework.

Or just another writer that doesn't think that Eric Berry alone is going to solve anything. Or at least is willing to wait before claiming he can.

Flowers is a potential star, we hope Berry is as well. Carr is pretty average.

IIRC, we didn't rank in the Top 20 in any major pass defense stats last year. I think we were 26th or 27th in yardage allowed, and near 20th-22nd in QB rating against and passing TD's allowed.

When teams can run on you at will, you usually see the pass defense ranked higher because they aren't thrown on often. All aspects of our defense sucked last year, so I don't see an issue with his ranking.

Now if Berry is what we hope, Flowers takes the next step and Carr improves, and this time next year he ranks us in the 20's, I'll be right there with you saying he's an idiot.

mcaj22
07-19-2010, 02:24 PM
This idiot ranked our awful garbage defensive line higher than our secondary, when anyone that is even an average fan of NFL and doesn't know anything about the Chiefs should be able to tell the potential and upside of the secondary on the Chiefs, and probably the one of if not the strongest area of the team.

This idiot is going by shit from last year, so if you email him calling him a fucking shithead, which he is, he will just defend it by throwing you some bullshit numbers with Mike Brown + the gang of crappers playing safety, which still didnt hinder the talents of our corners.

I don't think he understands talent turnover when you have a new nickel and two new safeties coming in with a new defensive coordinator and a new DBs coach. The guy is an idiot, but he will hype up Cromartie for the Jets as the second coming of Deion Sanders (lol?) who hasn't even played a down in a Jets uniform yet even though he was one of the worse coverage corners in the league last year as a Charger.

Jason Cole is one of the worst sports writers going today, nobody pushes my buttons more to make me want to scream at my computer screen when I read the shit he spews.

InChiefsHeaven
07-19-2010, 02:33 PM
25. Kansas City Chiefs: Chiefs may have struck … OK, gold is too strong a word for the double-Brandon combo of Flowers and Carr at CB, but the pair of 2008 draft picks have been solid and certainly good enough for the type of defense the Chiefs want to play. The real key is FS Eric Berry(notes). GM Scott Pioli went against his better judgment in taking a safety so high in the draft, but Berry provides ample reason. He’s a strong hitter and a ballhawk. Some see him as another Ronnie Lott. Even being just a little shy of that would be fine.

Right. He just decided, what the hell, every part of me is screaming no, but I'll just draft this guy anyway...

This guy is a moron.

notorious
07-19-2010, 02:34 PM
Our defense is shit, and until they prove otherwise, they shall be ranked as such.

Quesadilla Joe
07-19-2010, 02:41 PM
I even think the Chiefs are too low on this list.

Brandon Flowers is a good corner but the rest of their secondary is trash. Eric Berry could be pretty good but nobody knows if he will yet.

notorious
07-19-2010, 02:44 PM
Brandon Flowers is a good corner but the rest of the their secondary is trash. Eric Berry could be pretty good but nobody knows if he will yet.

I agree. Everyone is holding Berry up as the savior, but it will probably take him a year or two to come into his own in the NFL.

Extra Point
07-19-2010, 05:14 PM
Nice wiki-page font, making it all the more believable.

Mojo Jojo
07-19-2010, 05:35 PM
For those that didn't look at all the ratings....
KC is
QB - #25
RB - #17
WR - #30
OL - #31
DL - #21
LB - #25

SAUTO
07-19-2010, 05:41 PM
For those that didn't look at all the ratings....
KC is
QB - #25
RB - #17
WR - #30
OL - #31
DL - #21
LB - #25

wow rb at 17??? oooook
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Pasta Little Brioni
07-19-2010, 06:03 PM
wow rb at 17??? oooook
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Wasn't KC 11th last year in rushing yards? That was before signing Jones.

They say the OL is 31st, so I'd have to say the RB should be ranked higher than 17th.

SAUTO
07-19-2010, 06:36 PM
Wasn't KC 11th last year in rushing yards? That was before signing Jones.

They say the OL is 31st, so I'd have to say the RB should be ranked higher than 17th.

the bengals are 5. i just dont see how he came up with his rankings.
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Pasta Little Brioni
07-19-2010, 06:40 PM
the bengals are 5. i just dont see how he came up with his rankings.
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Jeez, and the Donx are ranked higher too ROFL What a Knowmoron.

SAUTO
07-19-2010, 06:42 PM
how about tenn. being ahead of atlanta in the qb catagory?

vince young > matt ryan????

I dont think so....
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SAUTO
07-19-2010, 06:50 PM
also us at 30 in the wr catagory?? looking at the 10 teams above us i dont see any better, until the phins at 19. so we should be around 20 imo
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-King-
07-19-2010, 06:55 PM
How the fuck are we not top 7 at least in RBs?
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boogblaster
07-19-2010, 08:44 PM
we could be ......................................................................................

Ugly Duck
07-19-2010, 10:24 PM
Oakland's secondary may not have such high stats this season. Opponents didn't bother throwing the ball in the Jamarcus era cuz they knew the Drank was just going to give them the ball back anyway. I believe Oakland defended against the fewest passes in the league last coupla years.