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Param
07-22-2010, 10:50 AM
No. 1: Manchester United
Sport: soccer
Value: $1.83 billion
Owner: Glazer family
Revenue: $459 million

No. 2: Dallas Cowboys
Sport: football
Value: $1.65 billion
Owner: Jerral Jones
Revenue: $280 million

No. 3: New York Yankees
Sport: baseball
Value: $1.6 billion
Owner: Steinbrenner family
Revenue: $441 million

No. 4: Washington Redskins
Sport: football
Value: $1.55 billion
Owner: Daniel Snyder
Revenue: $345 million

No. 5: New England Patriots
Sport: football
Value: $1.36 billion
Owner: Robert Kraft
Revenue: $302 million

No. 6: Real Madrid
Sport: soccer
Value: $1.32 billion
Owner: club members
Revenue: $563 million

No. 7: New York Giants
Sport: football
Value: $1.18 billion
Owner: John Mara, Steven Tisch
Revenue: $230 million

No. 8: Arsenal
Sport: soccer
Value: $1.18 billion
Owner: Stanley Kroenke
Revenue: $369 million

No. 9: New York Jets
Sport: football
Value: $1.17 billion
Owner: Robert Wood Johnson IV
Revenue: $227 million

No. 10: Houston Texans
Sport: football
Value: $1.15 billion
Owner: Robert McNair
Revenue: $256 million

No. 11: Philadelphia Eagles
Sport: football
Value: $1.12 billion
Owner: Jeffrey Lurie
Revenue: $250 million

No. 12: Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Sport: football
Value: $1.09 billion
Owner: Glazer family
Revenue: $241 million

No. 13: Chicago Bears
Sport: football
Value: $1.08 billion
Owner: McCaskey family
Revenue: $241 million

No. 14: Denver Broncos
Sport: football
Value: $1.08 billion
Owner: Patrick Bowlen
Revenue: $240 million

No. 15: Baltimore Ravens
Sport: football
Value: $1.08 billion
Owner: Stephen Bisciotti
Revenue: $240 million

No. 16: Ferrari
Sport: motorsports
Value: $1.05 billion
Owner: Fiat Group
Revenue: $308 million

No. 17: Carolina Panthers
Sport: football
Value: $1.05 billion
Owner: Jerry Richardson
Revenue: $238 million

No. 18: Cleveland Browns
Sport: football
Value: $1.03 billion
Owner: Randolph Lerner
Revenue: $235 million

No. 19: Kansas City Chiefs
Sport: football
Value: $1.03 billion
Owner: Hunt family
Revenue: $228 million

No. 20: Indianapolis Colts
Sport: football
Value: $1.03 billion
Owner: James Irsay
Revenue: $233 million

No. 21: Pittsburgh Steelers
Sport: football
Value: $1.02 billion
Owner: Daniel Rooney, Art Rooney II
Revenue: $235 million

No. 22: Green Bay Packers
Sport: football
Value: $1.02 billion
Owner: shareholder owned
Revenue: $232 million

No. 23: Miami Dolphins
Sport: football
Value: $1.02 billion
Owner: Stephen Ross
Revenue: $242 million

No. 24: Tennessee Titans
Sport: football
Value: $1 billion
Owner: Kenneth Adams Jr.
Revenue: $232 million

No. 25: Barcelona
Sport: soccer
Value: $1 billion
Owner: club members
Revenue: $513 million

No. 26: Seattle Seahawks
Sport: football
Value: $994 million
Owner: Paul Allen
Revenue: $231 million

No. 27: Bayern Munich
Sport: soccer
Value: $990 million
Owner: club members
Revenue: $406 million

No. 28: Cincinnati Bengals
Sport: football
Value: $953 million
Owner: Michael Brown
Revenue: $222 million

No. 29: New Orleans Saints
Sport: football
Value: $942 million
Owner: Thomas Benson
Revenue: $232 million

No. 30: Arizona Cardinals
Sport: football
Value: $935 million
Owner: William Bidwill
Revenue: $223 million

No. 31: San Diego Chargers
Sport: football
Value: $917 million
Owner: Alexander Spanos
Revenue: $224 million

No. 32: St. Louis Rams
Sport: football
Value: $913 million
Owner: Chip Rosenbloom, Stanley Kroenke
Revenue: $217 million

No. 33: Buffalo Bills
Sport: football
Value: $909 million
Owner: Ralph Wilson Jr.
Revenue: $222 million

No. 34: San Francisco 49ers
Sport: football
Value: $875 million
Owner: Denise DeBartolo York, John York
Revenue: $214 million

No. 35: Boston Red Sox
Sport: baseball
Value: $870 million
Owner: John Henry, Thomas Werner
Revenue: $266 million

No. 36: Detroit Lions
Sport: football
Value: $867 million
Owner: William Clay Ford
Revenue: $206 million

No. 37: Jacksonville Jaguars
Sport: football
Value: $866 million
Owner: Wayne Weaver
Revenue: $217 million

No. 38: New York Mets
Sport: baseball
Value: $858 million
Owner: Fred Wilpon
Revenue: $268 million

No. 39: Atlanta Falcons
Sport: football
Value: $856 million
Owner: Arthur Blank
Revenue: $214 million

No. 40: Minnesota Vikings
Sport: football
Value: $835 million
Owner: Zygmunt Wilf, Mark Wilf
Revenue: $209 million

No. 41: Liverpool
Sport: soccer
Value: $822 million
Owner: George Gillett Jr., Thomas Hicks
Revenue: $304 million

No. 42: McLaren Mercedes
Sport: motorsports
Value: $805 million
Owner: Ron Dennis, TAG Group
Revenue: $267 million

No. 43: A.C. Milan
Sport: soccer
Value: $800 million
Owner: Silvio Berlusconi
Revenue: $276 million

No. 44: Oakland Raiders
Sport: football
Value: $797 million
Owner: Allen Davis
Revenue: $215 million

No. 45: Los Angeles Dodgers
Sport: baseball
Value: $727 million
Owner: Frank McCourt
Revenue: $247 million

No. 46: Chicago Cubs
Sport: baseball
Value: $726 million
Owner: Ricketts family
Revenue: $246 million

No. 47: Juventus
Sport: soccer
Value: $656 million
Owner: Agnelli family
Revenue: $285 million

No. 48: Chelsea
Sport: soccer
Value: $646 million
Owner: Roman Abramovich
Revenue: $340 million

No. 49: Los Angeles Lakers
Sport: basketball
Value: $607 million
Owner: Gerald Buss, Philip Anschutz
Revenue: $209 million

No. 50: New York Knicks
Sport: basketball
Value: $586 million
Owner: Madison Square Garden
Revenue: $202 million

Param
07-22-2010, 10:51 AM
Oh, forgot the link:

http://www.forbes.com/2010/07/20/most-valuable-athletes-and-teams-business-sports-sportsmoney-fifty-fifty-teams_slide_2.html

Hammock Parties
07-22-2010, 10:52 AM
The Texans? Jesus.

There are a lot of rich assholes with disposable income in Houston.

Sofa King
07-22-2010, 10:55 AM
Detroit Lions??? from DETROIT??

ModSocks
07-22-2010, 12:00 PM
I never woulda thought that the Chiefs are worth more than the Colts, Steelers, Lakers and Dodgers.

Mojo Jojo
07-22-2010, 12:18 PM
I never woulda thought that the Chiefs are worth more than the Colts, Steelers, Lakers and Dodgers.

And yet the Colts, Steelers and Dodgers had higher revenue numbers. A lot of the Forbes list takes into account stadium ownership/lease agreements. Let's face it the Chiefs have a redone stadium, and a great deal with the county. The Hunt family lays out very little capitol, and only part of operating expenses. That drives up value.

Fansy the Famous Bard
07-22-2010, 12:21 PM
I'm absolutely floored that the Dodgers aren't higher.

alpha_omega
07-22-2010, 12:24 PM
Any idea how the values are determined?

Fansy the Famous Bard
07-22-2010, 12:33 PM
with this

http://www.2dayblog.com/images/2008/april/world_large_abacus.jpg

Mojo Jojo
07-22-2010, 01:08 PM
Any idea how the values are determined?

It is a best guess by Forbes.
First they estimate revenue...some numbers are solid (national broadcast contracts) then they estimate ticket revenues, parking, concessions, sponsorships, local broadcasting etc. No team ever releases those actual numbers, so it is a best guess.

Then expenses...money paid for leases, operating and capitol expenses, salaries on the field and off. If you own your stadium like the Redskins you take on all stadium expenses, if you are just a part time tenant like the Jaguars you just pay the city a flat fee and they pick up most of the operating & capitol expenses. If you have a great lease like the Chiefs the team pays the county/city and many times will get a lot of that money back as a management fee, and the city/county will pick up some or all the capitol expenses.

Now you factor in money to be made from other events if you own/manage the venue. The Redskins, Chiefs, Cowboys keep almost all the money generated by soccer games, concerts, special events and whatever.

If you own and/or manage your venue you will have higher expenses, but you get to keep all the revenue from naming rights, signage parking etc. Teams like the Rams and Jaguars have to share those revenues with the stadium/city, and they don't get much of the parking revenue.

Finally...name recognition...the ability to sell your product/merchandise to large masses. This is a big reason so many soccer teams rank high. In the case of the NFL except for local broadcast all these revenues are shared, so the Cowboys, Redskins, Patriots, Giants are pulling others along.

As I said in the beginning it is just a best guess.

AustinChief
07-22-2010, 01:10 PM
While fun, the list is complete BS... Look at a team like FC Barcelona with the highest revenues of any team last year ($500+million) and yet they are valued at #25?

I find it hard to believe that their value is less than double their revenue while the Cowboys value is over 6x their revenue...

CoMoChief
07-22-2010, 01:10 PM
Didnt know the Glazers both owned TB Buccs AND ManU.

I learned something today!

ClevelandBronco
07-22-2010, 01:13 PM
The Cleveland Browns. $1.03 billion.

I'm going to have to let that one sink in for a while.

Mojo Jojo
07-22-2010, 01:16 PM
Didnt know the Glazers both owned TB Buccs AND ManU.

I learned something today!

It's good to be a Glazer. I think the Glazers are the first non UK group to own an EPL team. I know that Clark Hunt is looking to buy, or buy into an EPL team.

ChiefsCountry
07-22-2010, 02:05 PM
Im suprised the top 20 European soccer clubs havent broke away and formed their own league. It could rival the NFL or come close.
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OnTheWarpath15
07-22-2010, 02:43 PM
It's good to be a Glazer. I think the Glazers are the first non UK group to own an EPL team. I know that Clark Hunt is looking to buy, or buy into an EPL team.

Stan Kroenke is in the process of becoming the majority owner of Arsenal, IIRC.

He currently owns 10 or 15%


EDIT: According to the list in the OP, it must have already happened. He's listed as majority owner.

AustinChief
07-22-2010, 02:54 PM
It's good to be a Glazer. I think the Glazers are the first non UK group to own an EPL team. I know that Clark Hunt is looking to buy, or buy into an EPL team.
And.. George Gillett Jr., Thomas Hicks with Liverpool.

Fritz88
07-22-2010, 03:02 PM
I wonder what would happen to this listing if soccer fans in Asia and Africa actually purchased authentic team products. Would that do much to a team's revenue? Or is it based other factors?