Jack Tatum Dead

[Buck]

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2010/07/longtime-oakland-raiders-defender-jack-tatum-dies-at-61/1

[Chief Pote]

Just saw that on the local news web page. Mean mother

[Titty Meat]

Seems like the NFL legends don't live long. Thats sad RIP.

[blaise]

Al Davis is demanding that his corpse start on defense.

[ClevelandBronco]

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[mikey23545]

I hope that cheap-shotting one who sucks the penis is roasting in hell right now....The world is a better place already....

[gblowfish]

He was a criminally dirty player. Head hunter, tried to willfully hurt people on purpose. He was dirtier than Rodney Harrison, and put Darryl Stingley in a wheelchair for life.

Good riddance.

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['Hamas' Jenkins]

I hope that he is being cut blocked by demons in the fires of blacket Hell.

[ClevelandBronco]

He was a criminally dirty player. Head hunter, tried to willfully hurt people on purpose...

Wasn't that pretty much the job description of a good defensive player in that era?

[greg63]

Whatever my opinion of someone may have been in this life I will not ever hope that anyone burn in hell; would not wish that on my worst enemy.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-tpzA4wt_o#t=6m26s

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Go to 6 minutes and 26 seconds.

[sandynme]

like all raiders and their fans,jack tatum was a knob polishing puuuuusssssy

[siberian khatru]

http://assets.espn.go.com/media/pg2/2002/1114/photo/a_stingley_i.jpg

[RJ]

RIP Jack Tatum. I did not like you as a player but I hate seeing the players from your era passing away. For me, those were the NFL/AFL's finest days.

[Iowanian]

I'll bet St Peter will give him a filthy throat chop as he is looking the other way passing through the gate.

[Deberg_1990]

He was a criminally dirty player. Head hunter, tried to willfully hurt people on purpose. He was dirtier than Rodney Harrison, and put Darryl Stingley in a wheelchair for life.

Good riddance.



The game was different back then. If they had the same rules (or lack thereof) today that they did then, guys like Harrison would have been just as dirty.

[big nasty kcnut]

yeah jack tatum sucks ass

[big nasty kcnut]

I respect players for hitting hard and playing the right way.

[Pioli Zombie]

You are supposed to say something good about the dead. He's dead. Good. Piece of shit.

[Ugly Duck]

Wasn't that pretty much the job description of a good defensive player in that era?

Thank you for not piling on when a man dies. You're OK.... for a Broncos fan.

"Jack Tatum could hit a man so hard it would lift both his feet off the ground. I remember one game, when the opposing QB tried to scramble for a first down, and Jack knocked him out cold. So they put their back-up in and Jack knocked him out too. Then the punter came in, same thing happened. They ended with their tight-end under center." -Woody Hayes

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[DJ's left nut]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-tpzA4wt_o#t=6m26s

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Go to 6 minutes and 26 seconds.

Wow, Charlie Murphy was pretty much a militant prick.

I like him less now.

[R8RFAN]

This is going to be worthless for some here no matter what is said or posted but here it goes

Tatum made efforts to visit Stingley. Before Stingley's death in 2007, intermediaries made several attempts to bring the two together, to bury the ugly past, and each time Stingley, feeling he was being exploited, declined involvement."I feel sorry for what happened to him," Tatum told Yahoo Sports in 2007. "I tried to apologize to him a number of times, but people around him wouldn't let that happen."
If Tatum wasn't properly contrite, it's because he understood the incident was a tragic accident. Referees threw no flags. The league issued no fine. Stingley's own coach, Chuck Fairbanks, conceded it was a clean hit.

http://www.contracostatimes.com/raiders/ci_15615420?nclick_check=1

[Buck]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-tpzA4wt_o#t=6m26s

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Go to 6 minutes and 26 seconds.

Jesus. Cocaine much?

[Hammock Parties]

I thought this thread was going to be full of sad sentimentality.

Glad to see you guys did the right thing.

[TheGuardian]

This is going to be worthless for some here no matter what is said or posted but here it goes


http://www.contracostatimes.com/raiders/ci_15615420?nclick_check=1

Tatum tried to apologize the first time because of a book deal I believe. Nothing more than press to sell more books.

Tatum was a piece of shit. He never had any remorse for ending a guys career and putting him in a wheelchair for life. The world is a better place without that prick. Good riddance maggot.

[boogblaster]

A mean bastard .. that was how it was played and coached back then ....

['Hamas' Jenkins]

I thought this thread was going to be full of sad sentimentality.

Glad to see you guys did the right thing.

I hope he's given a Viking funeral with the boat made from the lumber of the Alomar forest.

[Over-Head]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Not the Assassin!!! :eek::eek:

[Lex Luthor]

He was a criminally dirty player. Head hunter, tried to willfully hurt people on purpose. He was dirtier than Rodney Harrison, and put Darryl Stingley in a wheelchair for life.

Good riddance.


:clap:

[Over-Head]

Wasn't that pretty much the job description of a good defensive player in that era? Yeah really :rolleyes:

[Demonpenz]

It's just kinda the sick way the game is. You know that these linebackers go into the hole not giving a fuck about their necks, brains, and such, corners come up and just dive into peoples legs to take out people. It is a ruthless game and alot of the guys grow up in the poor and they just don't care. They are there to hurt people, because it's you or them baby. Frankly the chiefs have had some pussies bringing it to the hole as of late. The one that could bring it, is in texans uni.

[FAX]

RIP Jack Tatum. I did not like you as a player but I hate seeing the players from your era passing away. For me, those were the NFL/AFL's finest days.

I read somewhere that an NFL player's average life expectancy is 58 years. I read that some time ago, so the number may have changed what with all the advances that have been made in brain grafting and spine replacement and re-blooding and all. Still, that seems young. Almost Middle Ages young.

As for Tatum, he was the kind of player you loved to hate ... and I hated the crap out of him. It's not good form to speak ill of the departed though, so I'll say RIP and trust that, right about now, Archangel Michael is swinging him around by his hair in big circles.

FAX

[blaise]

(sorry if this is posted in one of the videos. I can't watch them all)
There was a piece they ran on him a couple of years ago before the Super Bowl. Someone, one of his teammates, said he came up to him in the locker room after the Stingley game and asked if he was ok. He said Tatum was sitting there, smoking a cigarette, and said, "Why the fuck wouldn't I be ok?"

On a side note- I told that to Tim Grunhard once and he said that the lockers at Arrowhead had holes drilled in the side because there were once ashtrays affixed to them. Players used to smoke at their lockers.

[MOhillbilly]

Raider scum.

[Amnorix]

Tatum tried to apologize the first time because of a book deal I believe. Nothing more than press to sell more books.

Tatum was a piece of shit. He never had any remorse for ending a guys career and putting him in a wheelchair for life. The world is a better place without that prick. Good riddance maggot.

This. This x1000.

The difference is exemplified by Raiders coach John Madden who was at the hospital with Stingley THAT NIGHT (or the next night, whatever), whereas Tatum, the guy who committed the act, never apologized or tried to meet with him until many many years later when he had a book coming out or whatever.

F him.

[Over-Head]

This. This x1000.

The difference is exemplified by Raiders coach John Madden who was at the hospital with Stingley THAT NIGHT (or the next night, whatever), whereas Tatum, the guy who committed the act, never apologized or tried to meet with him until many many years later when he had a book coming out or whatever.

F him.
Many witnesses still claim it was Stingleys family that turned Jack away from teh hospital when he did show up.
IIRC it's in his book (i'd have to read it again) he did show up, and was turned back, and threatened by Stingleys family of the police being called if he didn't leave.

What happened, who knows, either way, bad accident, but shit happens.
How come Butkus don't get shit for "killing" a guy he hit who had a hart attack??

[milkman]

Tatum tried to apologize the first time because of a book deal I believe. Nothing more than press to sell more books.

Tatum was a piece of shit. He never had any remorse for ending a guys career and putting him in a wheelchair for life. The world is a better place without that prick. Good riddance maggot.

The book deal is the only real problem I have with Tatum, other than the fact that he was a dirty, cheatin' Raider.

But the fact is, he didn't break any rules on that hit on Stingly, and he wasn't the only player of that era to make those kinds of hits (Fred "The Hammer" Williamson, to name a Chief), and the only reason he's villified is because he did put Stingly in a wheelchair.

[RNR]

The book deal is the only real problem I have with Tatum, other than the fact that he was a dirty, cheatin' Raider.

But the fact is, he didn't break any rules on that hit on Stingly, and he wasn't the only player of that era to make those kinds of hits (Fred "The Hammer" Williamson, to name a Chief), and the only reason he's villified is because he did put Stingly in a wheelchair.

Thank you, but the fact of the matter Tate never play outside of the rule book. He had teammates that did but he played with in the rule book. He hit like no other and because of guys he played with and the hit on Stingley he got a bad rap. The hit on Stingley was clean and ironically was not even a hard hit. It happened 08/12/78 on my birthday and to this day I am stunned the kid did not get up. Jack showed poor form IMO on how he handled the situation. He did show up at the hospital to see Darrell but was cussed and told to f&ck off.

He should have understood the emotions of the situation and put that aside. He did not and felt he was hired to hit and that is what he did. The nickname was given to him before he ever played a down in the NFL and was not the nickname he had with the team. He should have reached out after feelings cooled and the whole book deal came off tacky. That said RIP Tate you were the hardest hitter pound for pound ever and 2nd place is distant.

[RNR]

This. This x1000.

The difference is exemplified by Raiders coach John Madden who was at the hospital with Stingley THAT NIGHT (or the next night, whatever), whereas Tatum, the guy who committed the act, never apologized or tried to meet with him until many many years later when he had a book coming out or whatever.

F him.

You are full of shit on this one, he tried. Madden was allowed Jack was not~

[milkman]

Thank you, but the fact of the matter Tate never play outside of the rule book. He had teammates that did but he played with in the rule book..

He was a Raider.

That makes him dirty, cheatin' by definition.

[RNR]

He was a Raider.

That makes him dirty, cheatin' by definition.

LMAO ok I am on a Chiefs site~

[Over-Head]

LMAO ok I am on a Chiefs site~ROFL

[Buck]

I wonder if everyone would be saying the same stuff about Fred Williamson?

[Over-Head]

I wonder if everyone would be saying the same stuff about Fred Williamson?
Or Ronnie Lott, Jack Lambert, Dick Butckus etc, etc,etc

[googlegoogle]

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[TheGuardian]

Thank you, but the fact of the matter Tate never play outside of the rule book. He had teammates that did but he played with in the rule book. He hit like no other and because of guys he played with and the hit on Stingley he got a bad rap. The hit on Stingley was clean and ironically was not even a hard hit. It happened 08/12/78 on my birthday and to this day I am stunned the kid did not get up. Jack showed poor form IMO on how he handled the situation. He did show up at the hospital to see Darrell but was cussed and told to f&ck off.

He should have understood the emotions of the situation and put that aside. He did not and felt he was hired to hit and that is what he did. The nickname was given to him before he ever played a down in the NFL and was not the nickname he had with the team. He should have reached out after feelings cooled and the whole book deal came off tacky. That said RIP Tate you were the hardest hitter pound for pound ever and 2nd place is distant.

Tatum never even apologized for the hit. I've heard the "why wouldn't I be ok?" story too. Tatum was a piece of shit. It's not about the rules of the game or any of that horse shit. It's about the fact that he ended a guys career, put him in a wheelchair for life, and never showed a single ounce of remorse for it. He was a disgusting human being. Fuck him.

[RNR]

Tatum never even apologized for the hit. I've heard the "why wouldn't I be ok?" story too. Tatum was a piece of shit. It's not about the rules of the game or any of that horse shit. It's about the fact that he ended a guys career, put him in a wheelchair for life, and never showed a single ounce of remorse for it. He was a disgusting human being. **** him.
Fuck off tool~

[Over-Head]

**** off tool~
I Am a Raiders fan, and I approve this post :thumb:

[RNR]

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A very sad play one I have watched several times. Everytime I have seen it I think think why didn't the kid pop up. The ugly side of a sport where men hit~

[RNR]

I Am a Raiders fan, and I approve this post :thumb:

He is nothing but a troll~

[Ugly Duck]

Tatum was a piece of shit. It's not about the rules of the game or any of that horse shit. It's about the fact that he ended a guys career, put him in a wheelchair for life, and never showed a single ounce of remorse for it. He was a disgusting human being. **** him.

It was just a run-of-the-mill tackle. Stingley put his head down just before contact & it collided with Tatum's chest. Nothing dirty, no blow to the head, no hitting from behind. Just a tragic accident. Look at the video.

[RNR]

It was just a run-of-the-mill tackle. Stingley put his head down just before contact & it collided with Tatum's chest. Nothing dirty, no blow to the head, no hitting from behind. Just a tragic accident. Look at the video.

Don't waste your time Duck he is a clown~

[chiefzilla1501]

Tatum never even apologized for the hit. I've heard the "why wouldn't I be ok?" story too. Tatum was a piece of shit. It's not about the rules of the game or any of that horse shit. It's about the fact that he ended a guys career, put him in a wheelchair for life, and never showed a single ounce of remorse for it. He was a disgusting human being. **** him.

Tatum may have been a mean son of a bitch on the field.

But don't pretend you knew him off of it. You don't have to respect the guy for what he did on the field. But I take exception when you call him a disgusting human being when you know nothing about him. I lived in Ohio for several years. The guy was extremely active in the community in promoting diabetes research. He may have put a guy in a wheelchair, but I know firsthand that he has done a shitload of work that has led to taking people out of wheelchairs.

He's a dirty player. Dont' pretend that football and personal lives are the same thing.

[milkman]

Tatum may have been a mean son of a bitch on the field.

But don't pretend you knew him off of it. You don't have to respect the guy for what he did on the field. But I take exception when you call him a disgusting human being when you know nothing about him. I lived in Ohio for several years. The guy was extremely active in the community in promoting diabetes research. He may have put a guy in a wheelchair, but I know firsthand that he has done a shitload of work that has led to taking people out of wheelchairs.

He's a dirty player. Dont' pretend that football and personal lives are the same thing.

He played within the rules at the time, so "dirty player" is technically not correct.

[TheGuardian]

**** off tool~

Get bitch slapped pussy.

I never said anything about "dirty play" so I'm not sure why some of you keep repeating that. It wasn't about the play but about how Tatum acted after it.

Tatum never apologized for the hit, he never showed a single ounce of remorse for taking a mans legs away from him for life. He's a fucking scumbag and the world is a better place without him in it.

[chiefzilla1501]

He's a ****ing scumbag and the world is a better place without him in it.

You don't know what the fuck you are talking about

[RNR]

Get bitch slapped pussy.

I never said anything about "dirty play" so I'm not sure why some of you keep repeating that. It wasn't about the play but about how Tatum acted after it.

Tatum never apologized for the hit, he never showed a single ounce of remorse for taking a mans legs away from him for life. He's a ****ing scumbag and the world is a better place without him in it.

LMAO tool~

[FAX]

Tatum was one of those guys you loved to hate.

Old school player. Heavy hitter. Nasty attitude. Raider uniform. Pet skunk on chain.

Personally, I think the league has become so safety conscious that a lot of people forget just how incredibly violent the NFL used to be. What might seem like an overly aggressive hit today was business as usual back in those days ... not to mention entirely legal.

FAX

[KCinNY]

Hardest hitter I ever saw. Makes Ronnie Lott and Steve Atwater look like soft pussies in comparison.

I'll never forget the collision he had with Earl Campbell on the goal line. Talk about two Mack trucks colliding.

RIP.

[FAX]

The cool thing is that, even though the Raiders were filthy, dirty, low-down, cheatin', good-for-nothin's, the Chiefs (who always played clean and by the rules and, if they knocked somebody down or something, they'd always help them back up) would kick their filthy, rotten, cheatin' asses anyhow.

FAX

['Hamas' Jenkins]

I wonder if everyone would be saying the same stuff about Fred Williamson?

Did Jack Tatum star in King Cobra commercials?

No.

[Over-Head]

Get bitch slapped pussy.

I never said anything about "dirty play" so I'm not sure why some of you keep repeating that. It wasn't about the play but about how Tatum acted after it.

Tatum never apologized for the hit, he never showed a single ounce of remorse for taking a mans legs away from him for life. He's a ****ing scumbag and the world is a better place without him in it.

So did you hide in his pants pocket, or just follow him around on a chain to be able to say that as a matter of fact statement?:shake:

[TheGuardian]

So did you hide in his pants pocket, or just follow him around on a chain to be able to say that as a matter of fact statement?:shake:

Feel free to direct me to the video or audio or transcript where Tatum clearly shows remorse for what he did.

[Rain Man]

I hated the Raiders back then more than I hated anything else on the planet. They were lying, cheating scum.

Matt Millen was a dirty, dirty player. So was Howie Long and Lester Hayes and Ben Davidson and Steve Wisniewski and Todd Christensen and Lyle Alzado and Fred Biletnikoff and Ken Stabler and all those mediocre running backs and George Blanda and John Madden and Ray Guy and pretty much everyone else.

However, I have to say that Tatum was no dirtier than a typical NFL player. He was borderline, but he was far from the worst of the Raiders. Ben Davidson and Lester Hayes and Matt Millen and Lyle Alzado and Howie Long were the cheapest, nastiest, most dirty players that team produced.

[ClevelandBronco]

Personally I miss the days when the Raiders were a team that we could hate.

[FAX]

Proof of that nature may be difficult to locate. The fact is that Tatum didn't have the kind of personality that allowed him to show true remorse in a public setting. He was the kind of guy who demonstrated remorse by holding up a bank or throttling a baby kitten with his bare hands or setting fire to a homeless person ... something like that.

FAX

[Rain Man]

Personally I miss the days when the Raiders were a team that we could hate.


Yeah, back in the old days it was Clint Eastwood versus Lee Marvin and Darth Vader and that guy in Cape Fear. It's less dramatic when it's Clint Eastwood versus Don Knotts. Or sadly, when it's Peewee Herman versus Don Knotts.

[R8RFAN]

Personally I miss the days when the Raiders were a team that we could hate.

If you don't hate the Raiders for ass raping you the way they did with Jameatloaf, you ain't ever gonna hate us