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Mr. Laz
07-28-2010, 06:05 PM
Chiefs waived TE Brad Cottam (failed physical), source confirmed. 2 minutes ago (http://twitter.com/caplannfl/status/19781107283) via TweetDeck (http://www.tweetdeck.com/)
BossChief
07-28-2010, 06:08 PM
Thats fucked up, he broke his neck playing football for us and should get an injury settlement. JMO
I was told a few months ago that he would likely never play again.
KCrockaholic
07-28-2010, 06:10 PM
Sucks for us and him. Now Jake O'Connel will make the team. :(
milkman
07-28-2010, 06:11 PM
Sucks for us and him. Now Jake O'Connel will make the team. :(
Well, yeah.
They used two draft picks to select him.
Stinger
07-28-2010, 06:11 PM
Thats ****ed up, he broke his neck playing football for us and should get an injury settlement. JMO
I was told a few months ago that he would likely never play again.
Not saying I agree with the practice but isn't that what the guarantee money is for and not the injury settlement?
Mr. Arrowhead
07-28-2010, 06:19 PM
o shit, we are doomed
DaKCMan AP
07-28-2010, 06:21 PM
Bummer. Cottam had a lot of potential that was never realized in the college or professional setting.
ChiefGator
07-28-2010, 06:23 PM
That's too bad. I always was pulling for Cottam. Another wasted Peterson pick!! Damn you, Carl!!
PunkinDrublic
07-28-2010, 06:26 PM
Bummer. Cottam had a lot of potential that was never realized in the college or professional setting.
I think he was just starting to get it when that injury went down. I think without the injury he's still on the team.
milkman
07-28-2010, 06:26 PM
I don't do twitter.
Who tweeted this news?
DaneMcCloud
07-28-2010, 06:32 PM
This must be why they brought back Leroy Banks (who was supposedly killing it in OTA's and minicamps).
The Elder
07-28-2010, 06:33 PM
Sad to see the kid go. Bad luck. I wish him well.
boogblaster
07-28-2010, 06:36 PM
He will be missed ....
teedubya
07-28-2010, 06:40 PM
Brad Cottam was the guy who made Tony Gonzalez expendable, right? lol
milkman
07-28-2010, 06:42 PM
Brad Cottam was the guy who made Tony Gonzalez expendable, right? lol
No.
TG made himself expendable to this regime.
bevischief
07-28-2010, 06:44 PM
We are fuc$ed...
milkman
07-28-2010, 06:45 PM
I don't do twitter.
Who tweeted this news?
Well?
Reaper16
07-28-2010, 06:48 PM
I don't do twitter.
Who tweeted this news?
Adam Caplin, @caplannfl (http://twitter.com/caplannfl)
Pasta Little Brioni
07-28-2010, 07:06 PM
Tough break.
milkman
07-28-2010, 07:11 PM
HOF'er per CrazyPhuD
Yeeh, that's exactly what he said.
Yeeh, that's exactly what he said.
You couldn't hear the sarcasm in my post.
salame
07-28-2010, 07:17 PM
He is the same thing as Kolby Smith to me. All the potential in the world doesn't mean shit if you can't get it together.
CHENZ A!
07-28-2010, 07:22 PM
He is the same thing as BRODIE CROYLE to me. All the potential in the world doesn't mean shit if you can't get it together.
I have never done an FYP before, but.......... FYP
Valiant
07-28-2010, 07:24 PM
Bummer. Cottam had a lot of potential that was never realized in the college or professional setting.
Everyone has potential..
1ChiefsDan
07-28-2010, 07:27 PM
Well?I got it from Josh Looney and Kent Babb
RustShack
07-28-2010, 07:35 PM
I would be pretty upset had we not drafted Moeaki this year, plus picked up Pope at the end of last year.
HemiEd
07-28-2010, 07:39 PM
Shit happens, sorry Brad. I hope you have a great life and this doesn't hurt too bad, but fuck you Herm.
Rudy tossed tigger's salad
07-28-2010, 08:01 PM
our own Chase Coffman...
Mecca
07-28-2010, 08:19 PM
Ah fuck, can anyone please beat out Jake O'Connell?
OnTheWarpath15
07-28-2010, 08:21 PM
Ah fuck, can anyone please beat out Jake O'Connell?
He's going nowhere, and you know it.
Pioli's spent 4 of his 15 draft picks on him and Moeaki.
'Hamas' Jenkins
07-28-2010, 08:23 PM
I don't care if Cottam never plays again. Not playing makes anyone worth more than Jake O'Connell. I can't think of any Chief I've ever seen who's ever been worse.
Deberg_1990
07-28-2010, 08:24 PM
How will we ever replace his 9 catch production??
Well...........bye
'Hamas' Jenkins
07-28-2010, 08:27 PM
How will we ever replace his 9 catch production??
Well...........bye
Say what you will about him, the guy was bigger, faster, and had better hands than O'Connell.
Mecca
07-28-2010, 08:32 PM
He's going nowhere, and you know it.
Pioli's spent 4 of his 15 draft picks on him and Moeaki.
Of all the things to bring from NE the obsession with TEs is not one that I wanted.
'Hamas' Jenkins
07-28-2010, 08:33 PM
What about the inability to draft pass rushers?
milkman
07-28-2010, 08:34 PM
Of all the things to bring from NE the obsession with TEs is not one that I wanted.
Cassel tops my list.
The Franchise
07-28-2010, 08:34 PM
Say what you will about him, the guy was bigger, faster, and had better hands than O'Connell.
This.
Fuck O'Connell.
Mecca
07-28-2010, 08:36 PM
Those things would be on the list too...but hey NE doesn't need pass rushers they play that cover 2 3-4.
OnTheWarpath15
07-28-2010, 08:36 PM
Say what you will about him, the guy was bigger, faster, and had better hands than O'Connell.
You can say that about just about everyone on the roster.
'Hamas' Jenkins
07-28-2010, 08:38 PM
You can say that about just about everyone on the roster.
I'd honestly rather have Jack Tatum on the roster right now than Jake O'Connell.
Fuck, I'd rather have Darryl Stingley on the roster than Jake O'Connell.
OnTheWarpath15
07-28-2010, 08:39 PM
I'd honestly rather have Jack Tatum on the roster right now than Jake O'Connell.
Fuck, I'd rather have Darryl Stingley on the roster than Jake O'Connell.
Haley: That guy's dead.
Pioli: Well cross him off, then.
MMXcalibur
07-28-2010, 08:41 PM
Whew, thank goodness we got his a replacement brittle tight end in this year's draft.
'Hamas' Jenkins
07-28-2010, 08:41 PM
Haley: That guy's dead.
Pioli: Well cross him off, then.
Well, Stingley and Tatum were both Big X guys. Had they been SEC guys, we probably would sign them.
It's a real shame. That's one hell of an injury. For his sake, I hope he lives a long and healthy life and doesn't do any really sudden double takes which cause his head to spin clean off.
I wish him luck.
FAX
I didn't like him at first, but he was growing on me. Sorry to hear it.
Hog's Gone Fishin
07-28-2010, 09:05 PM
Maybe Brad is taking a ride on Brokeback mountain.
DaneMcCloud
07-28-2010, 09:14 PM
I don't care if Cottam never plays again. Not playing makes anyone worth more than Jake O'Connell. I can't think of any Chief I've ever seen who's ever been worse.
Mike Elkins
Matt Blundin
Deberg_1990
07-28-2010, 09:15 PM
Mike Elkins
Matt Blundin
Trezelle Jenkins
LaChapelle
07-28-2010, 09:29 PM
Only one BC per team
Buehler445
07-28-2010, 09:36 PM
Bummer. Cottam had a lot of potential that was never realized in the college or professional setting.
This. Not so much as I expected him to work out, we just REALLY needed him to work out.
This. Not so much as I expected him to work out, we just REALLY needed him to work out.
I imagine CP was a different animal back then, but what was the feeling around here regarding Sly Morris? In my mind, these two instances are similar - just freak football injuries. Even though Cottam was a 3rd rounder the fact that (if memory serves me correct) he was chosen with one of the picks Carl got for JA brings him up in status to maybe a high 2 or even a 1. JA was a stud and the fact we really still don't know what we have gotten for him is concerning. Charles and Albert, the jury is still out on those two.
milkman
07-28-2010, 09:57 PM
I imagine CP was a different animal back then, but what was the feeling around here regarding Sly Morris? In my mind, these two instances are similar - just freak football injuries. Even though Cottam was a 3rd rounder the fact that (if memory serves me correct) he was chosen with one of the picks Carl got for JA brings him up in status to maybe a high 2 or even a 1. JA was a stud and the fact we really still don't know what we have gotten for him is concerning. Charles and Albert, the jury is still out on those two.
Generally, I think people were surprised by the pick, but after his rookie year, people had hope that he would turn out to be a good player, though, at the end of the day, he really was inconsistent.
DaneMcCloud
07-28-2010, 09:58 PM
I imagine CP was a different animal back then, but what was the feeling around here regarding Sly Morris? In my mind, these two instances are similar - just freak football injuries. Even though Cottam was a 3rd rounder the fact that (if memory serves me correct) he was chosen with one of the picks Carl got for JA brings him up in status to maybe a high 2 or even a 1. JA was a stud and the fact we really still don't know what we have gotten for him is concerning. Charles and Albert, the jury is still out on those two.
Why are you asking a guy that joined FOUR YEARS after you joined, what it was like on CP in 2000?
ROFL
Only on Chiefs Fucking Planet.
Generally, I think people were surprised by the pick, but after his rookie year, people had hope that he would turn out to be a good player, though, at the end of the day, he really was inconsistent.
Wait, I thought he was done before his rookie year?
milkman
07-28-2010, 09:59 PM
FTR, this place wasn't actually around at the time that Morris was drafted, but many of us were posting at the Star board and migrated here a few months later.
milkman
07-28-2010, 10:02 PM
Wait, I thought he was done before his rookie year?
I don't remember at the time he was injured if we knew his career would be over.
LaChapelle
07-28-2010, 10:07 PM
DV had Cat a year or two
he held the IR bench
KC Chief 2000-2003
I don't remember at the time he was injured if we knew his career would be over.
Think of sly morris brings back memories of when GUn was our HC. Does anyone remember when the Chiefs didn't have a guy covering one of the gunners on a punt and the other team - I think the Raiders - ran a fake for a first as a result.
In hindsight, the fact that Gun was hired as HC makes it even more frustrating that Carl lasted for as long as he did after that obvious brainfart.
Why are you asking a guy that joined FOUR YEARS after you joined, what it was like on CP in 2000?
ROFL
Only on Chiefs ****ing Planet.
That's what happens when you squirt dish soap in the hot tub time machine.
FAX
That's what happens when you squirt dish soap in the hot tub time machine.
FAX
It was red bull or the russian equivalent.
Demonpenz
07-28-2010, 10:55 PM
cottam made some plays then broke his neck.
T-post Tom
07-28-2010, 10:56 PM
Cottam, when healthy, proved that he was never going to be anything beyond average at this level. Sorry for his injury, but the team isn't going to miss him on the field.
It was a bad tackle. I think he was leaping for more yardage, something he did in a preseason game the year before.
Hopefully he learned something in school and is successful.
DaneMcCloud
07-28-2010, 10:58 PM
Cottam, when healthy, proved that he was never going to be anything beyond average at this level. Sorry for his injury, but the team isn't going to miss him on the field.
This type of in-depth analysis can only be found on Chiefsplanet.
T-post Tom
07-28-2010, 11:00 PM
This type of in-depth analysis can only be found on Chiefsplanet.
yawn
Demonpenz
07-28-2010, 11:00 PM
The dude was 6'7 (6'9 with the fro) he was anything but an average TE just got hurt that is all shit happens when you party naked
DaneMcCloud
07-28-2010, 11:02 PM
yawn
Yawn?
You're the expert that proclaimed that the Chiefs wouldn't miss a guy that caught 16 passes in two years.
No shit? 16 passes? Wow, you're a real fucking genius.
T-post Tom
07-28-2010, 11:04 PM
The dude was 6'7 (6'9 with the fro) he was anything but an average TE just got hurt that is all shit happens when you party naked
:) Too bad his production wasn't more than average. 16 receptions for 183 yds isn't much in 24 games. meh, blame it on the playcalling...
T-post Tom
07-28-2010, 11:04 PM
Yawn?
You're the expert that proclaimed that the Chiefs wouldn't miss a guy that caught 16 passes in two years.
No shit? 16 passes? Wow, you're a real ****ing genius.
Thank you. And you as well.
KCrockaholic
07-28-2010, 11:05 PM
I wonder how many 2 TE sets we will use this year. I mean, all we have is Pope and Moeaki. I think Moeaki will be getting even more playing time than people think.
I don't know if he can handle the mental stress from all the fans after he is out for the season with a broken pinkie. They will be all over his carcass.
Just imagine what would happen to Moeaki if Cottam's injury happened to him.
J/K of course, I hope Moeaki doesn't miss a game in his entire career.
T-post Tom
07-28-2010, 11:49 PM
No worries: we have our new secret weapon (Bigfoot II)
http://prod.static.chiefs.clubs.nfl.com/assets/images/imported/KC/photos/person-cards/players/player-cards/Banks_Leroy%20CARD.jpg
rambleonthruthefog
07-29-2010, 12:07 AM
This type of in-depth analysis can only be found on Chiefsplanet.
your not wrong, you're just an asshole
DaneMcCloud
07-29-2010, 12:58 AM
your not wrong, you're just an asshole
I hate it when my balls itch.
Do you hate it when your vagina is scratchy?
Lumpy
07-29-2010, 01:31 AM
I hate it when my balls itch.
Do you hate it when your vagina is scratchy?
ROFL
Yep, the football season is quickly approaching...
This type of in-depth analysis can only be found on Chiefsplanet.
What's THAT all about?
Marcellus
07-29-2010, 06:21 AM
I am seriously stunned at all the post about Cottam's potential. Prior to getting hurt he 1 good game in his career. He couldn't get on the field.
The guy was too damn thin. If you have ever saw him in street clothes in person you would understand what I am saying. Regardless of what he was listed at. I posted before last season he looked too thin to be playing TE when I saw him at the KO luncheon.
He didn't have the build to take the hits. Had it not been his neck it would have been something else.
The guy was tall and had some speed for his size. Nothing outstanding.
And for all the Jake O'Connell 2 draft pick jokers, the 2 late round picks given up for O'Connell is not as bad as the wasted 3rd round pick on Cottam.
King_Chief_Fan
07-29-2010, 06:26 AM
I am seriously stunned at all the post about Cottam's potential. Prior to getting hurt he 1 good game in his career. He couldn't get on the field.
The guy was too damn thin. If you have ever saw him in street clothes in person you would understand what I am saying. Regardless of what he was listed at. I posted before last season he looked too thin to be playing TE when I saw him at the KO luncheon.
He didn't have the build to take the hits. Had it not been his neck it would have been something else.
The guy was tall and had some speed for his size. Nothing outstanding.
And for all the Jake O'Connell 2 draft pick jokers, the 2 late round picks given up for O'Connell is not as bad as the wasted 3rd round pick on Cottam.
reminds me of all the Brodie Croyle posts about his potential. Similar remarks about his stature as you make about Cottam's. This team needs big blocking TE's...the Tony G type!!
the Talking Can
07-29-2010, 06:27 AM
cottam had an injury rap coming out of college, iirc
and was injured the entirety of his short, pointless career....
which is why brokaki scares the shit out of me....
Frosty
07-29-2010, 06:45 AM
And for all the Jake O'Connell 2 draft pick jokers, the 2 late round picks given up for O'Connell is not as bad as the wasted 3rd round pick on Cottam.
The Chiefs traded a '10 7th round pick to trade back into the '09 seventh round to take O'Connell. They didn't trade up for him. That's only one pick used on him (not that I think it was a good pick -just sayin').
http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000d5d80ff4515&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true
-King-
07-29-2010, 08:04 AM
Chiefs TE Brad Cottam May Not Be Going Anywhere
by Joel Thorman on Jul 29, 2010 8:52 AM CDT in 2010 Kansas City Chiefs Season Comment 1 comment
After doing a bit of research, I've figured out what the story is with Chiefs waiving Brad Cottam.
Here are the two key points we can derive from it all:
First, Cottam's going to be out for the 2010 season. I don't know the details of his neck injury but, whatever it is, it's going to keep him out for a while.
Second, the Chiefs want to keep Cottam in 2010 and (potentially) beyond.
Star-divide
So, while they did waive him on Wednesday, it was designated as waived/injured. Since Cottam is not a vested veteran -- you need four years of service for that -- he has to pass through waivers meaning all 31 other teams would get the opportunity to sign him.
(Side note: If you're not a vested veteran, like Cottam, then you have to go through the waiver process like this, according to NFL rules. Previously, teams could "stash" younger players on IR who weren't quite ready yet. The Bobby Beathard-led Redskins teams back in the day were well known for "stashing" a young quarterback on IR while they waited for him to develop.)
As of this moment, Cottam is available to the other teams. Of course, the 31 other teams are armed with limited information on him and only know he ended the season with a neck injury and won't be ready for a while so they'll more than likely be hesitant to sign him off the waiver wire in 24 hours. Still, though, the Chiefs are taking a risk, as small as it may be, by making him available.
Once he (presumably) clears waivers this afternoon, his rights will revert back to the Chiefs and be placed on injured reserve for the 2010 season.
Going through this process, assuming he clears waivers, allows a couple of things to happen. First, the Chiefs can retain his rights. That's the important thing here and something they clearly wanted to happen. Second, he would not count against the 80-man roster (there are some tricky rules rules about the number of players actually under contract even when you go through camp cutdown process). This is also very important to someone like Todd Haley who has practices to conduct and needs all the roster spots he can get.
From a business standpoint, the outcome is the same to Cottam. Either someone claims him (and his contract) off waivers or he (and his contract) return to the Chiefs.
Bottomline? If Cottam clears waivers this afternoon, he'll remain a Chief.
chiefsnorth
07-29-2010, 08:22 AM
It's so funny how football threads work here. You see a 10 page football thread, and you know that you can read page 1 for the news and a few reactions, and then turn over to page 10 for name-calling, and know that you've essentially read the whole thread without missing anything in between.
-King-
07-29-2010, 08:28 AM
It's so funny how football threads work here. You see a 10 page football thread, and you know that you can read page 1 for the news and a few reactions, and then turn over to page 10 for name-calling, and know that you've essentially read the whole thread without missing anything in between.
Shut the fuck up you fucking idiot. You don't know how the fuck threads work here on CP. Please, dive into an AIDs lake.
ModSocks
07-29-2010, 09:35 AM
It's so funny how football threads work here. You see a 10 page football thread, and you know that you can read page 1 for the news and a few reactions, and then turn over to page 10 for name-calling, and know that you've essentially read the whole thread without missing anything in between.
Fuck you noob. Go suck on a sars pop.
OnTheWarpath15
07-29-2010, 09:36 AM
Fuck you noob. Go suck on a sars pop.
LMAO
TimeForWasp
07-29-2010, 10:45 AM
I think cottom was picking it up at break neck speed.
DBOSHO
07-29-2010, 10:48 AM
LMAO i google image'd "tony moeaki chiefs" and the 8th picture is sam jacksons character from unbreakable
It's so funny how football threads work here. You see a 10 page football thread, and you know that you can read page 1 for the news and a few reactions, and then turn over to page 10 for name-calling, and know that you've essentially read the whole thread without missing anything in between.
Lol! You are a noob, but you are 100 percent correct.
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swayy07
07-29-2010, 02:59 PM
we just placed him on the PuP list
okiedokieokoye
07-29-2010, 03:00 PM
Just announced he cleared waivers and is on the Chiefs PUP list for 2010
Frosty
07-29-2010, 03:06 PM
I'm not getting why they had to release him to do that.
ElGringo
07-29-2010, 03:11 PM
I read an article, and from my understanding, since he is not a "vested veteran" he has to clear waivers to go on PuP. This is because teams at one point would put young potential stars on PuP to allow them to develop, not count against the roster numbers, and retain the rights as they do this.
'Hamas' Jenkins
07-29-2010, 03:11 PM
That is a strange procedural move that they had to do it.
Fortunately, he'll be a better contributor for us than Jake O'Connell in 2010.
Frosty
07-29-2010, 03:18 PM
I read an article, and from my understanding, since he is not a "vested veteran" he has to clear waivers to go on PuP. This is because teams at one point would put young potential stars on PuP to allow them to develop, not count against the roster numbers, and retain the rights as they do this.
I picked that up from the article too, but hadn't heard of it happening before. I know a bunch of people were talking about signing Denario Alexander and then sticking him on IR but it sounds like he would have to go through the same procedure.
'Hamas' Jenkins
07-29-2010, 03:44 PM
I picked that up from the article too, but hadn't heard of it happening before. I know a bunch of people were talking about signing Denario Alexander and then sticking him on IR but it sounds like he would have to go through the same procedure.
I don't remember Brown being waived last year, though. He was just put on IR. Furthermore, if your first round draft pick blows out his knee, it's not like you have to cut him. You put him on IR, too.
Something isn't being sufficiently explained.
If I were to guess, I would say that this is something particular to the fact that he can't pass a physical.
chefsos
07-29-2010, 03:57 PM
I'll take a guess. I'd imagine that if Cottam broke his neck (or any other part) THIS year, in OTA's or camp, he'd just be placed on IR. But this injury is a carryover from last year, thus the whole cut/waiver/PUP thing that just happened.
CrazyPhuD
07-29-2010, 04:00 PM
I don't remember Brown being waived last year, though. He was just put on IR. Furthermore, if your first round draft pick blows out his knee, it's not like you have to cut him. You put him on IR, too.
Something isn't being sufficiently explained.
If I were to guess, I would say that this is something particular to the fact that he can't pass a physical.
http://www.examiner.com/x-778-Houston-Texans-Examiner~y2009m7d28-Clarifying-NFL-rules-on-the-physically-unable-to-perform-PUP-list
Right now if he were on 'Active PUP' he would count against the roster. Which means they can't just put him on PUP right now.
Clearly they had to play this game to free up a roster space. If they didn't he would cost a roster space all the way through training camp even though he couldn't play. Once training camp is over they could then put him on PUP without costing a roster space.
This game must have existed to allow them to recover the roster space.
Mr. Laz
07-29-2010, 04:34 PM
I'm not getting why they had to release him to do that.get rid of the contract i would imagine
if he had some kind of bonus or something
chefsos
07-29-2010, 04:46 PM
get rid of the contract i would imagine
if he had some kind of bonus or somethingI think its right there in the story. Probably due to the NFL's "anti-stashing" rules.
Frosty
07-29-2010, 05:55 PM
I'll take a guess. I'd imagine that if Cottam broke his neck (or any other part) THIS year, in OTA's or camp, he'd just be placed on IR. But this injury is a carryover from last year, thus the whole cut/waiver/PUP thing that just happened.
That makes the most sense, though it doesn't fit in with the "anti-stashing" part. Maybe the author didn't know what he was talking about. I always thought that the "anti-stashing" part was taken care of with being lost for the year.
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