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Mr. Laz

08-26-2010, 11:26 AM

Cassel's a new man in Kansas City

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<script>fsMedia.setHeaderCaptionSeparatorHeight();</script> Updated Aug 26, 2010 11:16 AM ET
KANSAS CITY

There’s nothing wrong with “California Cool,” but the top quarterbacks raise their teammates’ intensity by a few degrees when needed.
Matt Cassel (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/player/matt-cassel/300185) now understands he must be the one to fan that competitive fire in Kansas City. Otherwise, his chances for NFL success will go up in flames.
Among the lessons learned in his first season as a Chiefs (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/team/kansas-city-chiefs/67049) starter — and there were plenty of hard ones — Cassel realized he can’t be Mr. Nice Guy all the time. Not if the Northridge, California, native wants to blaze his own trail as a franchise signal-caller like mentor Tom Brady (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/player/tom-brady/70173).

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“I’ve tried to show some stability in that leadership role, take on a more serious demeanor and cut out the joking,” Cassel told FOXSports.com after Monday’s training camp practice at team headquarters. “There’s a time and place for that. But at the same time, until we start winning some games, it’s really got to be all business.”
The change in attitude couldn’t have come soon enough for Todd Haley.
Kansas City’s head coach admits he’d become frustrated with Cassel’s laidback attitude during a 4-12 campaign. Haley was particularly exasperated during some of last year’s Friday practices, which serve as dress rehearsals for the upcoming game.
“That’s when you want everything operating smoothly,” Haley said. “Something would go wrong – a receiver would drop the ball or run the wrong route. I know how important Friday (practice) is, so I’m letting loose.
“Multiple times, I go to Matt, ‘You’ve got to be mad. You’ve got to be upset.’ (He would answer), ‘I am upset.’ Well, you’ve got to show it.”
Haley wasn’t the only one alarmed by Cassel’s silence. Super Bowl quarterback-turned-NFL analyst Rich Gannon also was aghast when watching Cassel stay mum following mistakes in a mid-December practice before playing Cleveland. The Chiefs lost that game, 41-34, with Cassel completing 55 percent of his passes. He posted the same mediocre average during the regular season, ranking only 27th among qualifying NFL quarterbacks with at least 224 pass attempts.
“(Gannon) comes to me and says, ‘So-and-so dropped the ball. Why isn’t (Cassel) after him?’” Haley recounted. “I said, ‘Rich, you need to sit and talk to Matt, quarterback to quarterback.’”
Gannon did, but says it was Cassel who initially approached him during a television production meeting.
“When I watch a Friday practice with Peyton Manning, the ball doesn’t touch the ground,” Gannon said. “The practices are sharp and crisp. The Friday practice I went to in Kansas City was not good. Guys couldn’t line up because of indecision and were missing throws. I could see the frustration on Matt's face, but he didn't do much about it. Todd was the one doing all the hollering.
“I told Matt, ‘Guys are eventually going to tune Todd out. You’ve got to be the guy. If something isn’t exactly the way you want it, you’d better say something, because eventually they’ll get rid of you.’”

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Cassel had plenty to kvetch about. The offense was in disarray from the preseason when Haley fired offensive coordinator Chan Gailey and added play-calling duties onto an already full coaching plate. He said Kansas City receivers dropped more than 50 passes by his count, which was the NFL’s highest number. Only three other quarterbacks were sacked more than the 42 times Cassel went down. He also had to work with a hodgepodge of receiving talent because of injuries, roster shuffling and the four-game suspension of leading wideout Dwayne Bowe (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/player/dwayne-bowe/469551).
“I don’t think it will ever be as tough as last year — at least you hope not,” Cassel said.
Cassel, though, never griped publicly about his situation or his teammates. That impressed Chiefs management and raised his respect level in the locker room.
“He didn’t crack when he could have,” Haley said. “He could have showed signs. That would have affected his leadership now as we’re making progress and the talent level is improving. How he handled those situations is having a positive effect.
“A quarterback needs support. There are very few I’ve ever seen that can really do it on their own – very few.”
Brady’s one of them, but he’s long had a strong supporting cast. When the three-time Super Bowl winner went down with a knee injury in the 2008 season opener, Cassel guided New England to a 10-5 record in his first starts since high school. This led to his acquisition by Kansas City and subsequent six-year, $63 million contract extension for a player initially considered a throwaway 2005 seventh-round Patriots (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/team/new-england-patriots/67054) draft choice from Southern Cal.
The Chiefs have since hired one of Brady’s mentors in hopes of helping Cassel justify that mega-deal. Offensive coordinator Charlie Weis recently told Chiefs media his first order of business was to “fix the quarterback.”
Weis wasn’t made available to FOXSports.com to discuss exactly what was broken, but Cassel offered his two cents.
“That’s what coaches live for — to try and make players better,” Cassel said. “I’ve never been around a coach who has said, ‘Guys, you’re playing great football. Keep doing what you’re doing.’ I’m sure what he was trying to say is that I’m working hard to make Matt Cassel a better quarterback. Maybe those comments about trying to ‘fix’ the quarterback position are misunderstood.
“Really, if you’re a good quarterback, you’re going into the offseason saying, ‘I want to work on this. I want to change this.’ If not, you’re not trying to get better.”
By improving his accuracy and getting rid of the football quicker, Cassel should better than the 69.9 quarterback rating that ranked 25th among qualifying players last year. He’s 20-of-27 passing with one touchdown, no interceptions and one lost fumble on a sack-and-strip in nine preseason series that have produced 10 points (kicker Ryan Succop (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/player/ryan-succop/637895) missed two 53-yard field goals).
Not only is Cassel more comfortable, Kansas City’s upgraded its offensive skill-position talent with the acquisition of veteran running back Thomas Jones (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/player/thomas-jones/70515) to pair with 1,100-yard rusher Jamaal Charles (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/player/jamaal-charles/535881) and two potential impact rookies in speedy wide receiver Dexter McCluster and tight end Tony Moeaki. Cassel’s also improved his rapport with Bowe and fellow starting wideout Chris Chambers (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/player/chris-chambers/70060), who didn’t join Kansas City until being waived by San Diego midway through last season.
“He’s learning how to trust his guys on the outside,” Chambers said. “We’ve been able to bring in a few talented players to help him out. I think that’s going to bring some more calm and poise to his game.”
Even if the calm Cassel is no more on the practice field.
“He’s been more vocal when he has to,” Chambers said. “He’s still a fun guy, but when he hits that field, he’s extremely serious about his craft and everything he needs to get done. It’s good to see from your quarterback.
“If you don’t get it from him, it’s kind of hard to get it from other guys around him.”

RealSNR

08-26-2010, 11:30 AM

CHAMPIONSHIP!!!!111

By the way, good article. Take notes, Teicher.

Fumblerooski

08-26-2010, 11:32 AM

Good Article, but Matt couldn't exactly tear into receivers last year when he was bouncing 30 yard passes off the uprights.

The Franchise

08-26-2010, 11:34 AM

Yeah....because it has nothing to do with Cassel's lack of talent.

DeezNutz

08-26-2010, 11:34 AM

“I told Matt, . . . 'If something isn’t exactly the way you want it, you’d better say something, because eventually they’ll get rid of you.’”

Sweet. Now we're going to have a fucking quarterback that talks to himself on Sundays. That's not going to be embarrassing or anything.

ChiTown

08-26-2010, 11:34 AM

Good Article, but Matt couldn't exactly tear into receivers last year when he was bouncing 30 yard passes off the uprights.

:clap:

FAX

08-26-2010, 11:51 AM

Nothing scares opponents more than a pissed off doofus.

FAX

ChiTown

08-26-2010, 11:52 AM

Nothing scares opponents more than a pissed off doofus.

FAX

Yep.

Those guys don't want to get drilled in the back of the head with a wayward pass anymore than our guys do.........

ModSocks

08-26-2010, 11:52 AM

Good Article, but Matt couldn't exactly tear into receivers last year when he was bouncing 30 yard passes off the uprights.

Like hell you can't. He shoulda told them bitches they need to jump higher!

Angry Coach, Angry QB, Angry Fan Base..all wearing red.....so now when they suck, we can all be pissed off together!

AirForceChief

08-26-2010, 11:54 AM

Haley recounted. “I said, ‘Rich, you need to sit and talk to Matt, quarterback to quarterback.’”

Ever thought about hiring a QB Coach, Todd? Just a thought...

kcxiv

08-26-2010, 11:56 AM

I just know Cassel needs to be something, because all he is right now is a shitty ass starting quarterback. I hope he does well because he is a Chief, but like everyone else, i have little to no confidence in him.

CaliforniaChief

08-26-2010, 12:00 PM

Good Article, but Matt couldn't exactly tear into receivers last year when he was bouncing 30 yard passes off the crossbar.

FYP. Minor technicality. But give him credit for hitting the middle of the end zone.

Fish

08-26-2010, 12:00 PM

Boy they're trying really really hard to make Matt Cassel into something he's never been...

Which I'm sure is easier than just drafting a guy with the actual qualities you're looking for...

ChiTown

08-26-2010, 12:03 PM

Boy they're trying really really hard to make Matt Cassel into something he's never been...

Which I'm sure is easier than just drafting a guy with the actual qualities you're looking for...

The next QB we draft that turns out to be a legit Pro Bowler, will be the first one in this Franchises history.

Chew on that sadness for a while............

Rooster

08-26-2010, 12:03 PM

Nothing scares opponents more than a pissed off doofus.

FAX

:)

the Talking Can

08-26-2010, 12:04 PM

it's hilarious that brokaki keeps getting his name thrown in these articles...dude's barely practiced...

FAX

08-26-2010, 12:12 PM

Haley recounted. “I said, ‘Rich, you need to sit and talk to Matt, quarterback to quarterback.’”

Ever thought about hiring a QB Coach, Todd? Just a thought...

Wouldn't have hurt ... if he could have found someone who could do the job and fit into the system.

Thing is, I've had employees before and, on occasion, I would have loved somebody with successful experience in their specific area give them a chat up. Nothing wrong with that, really.

FAX

DaWolf

08-26-2010, 12:39 PM

Reerun_KC

08-26-2010, 12:43 PM

Cool either put up or shut up Matt... This is your time, otherwise your a goner!

the Talking Can

08-26-2010, 12:45 PM

Great article. That's the first time I've read any of this. Why it took so long to report on this I don't know. Either way, I have serious doubts that the guy is just going to be able to consciously change his personality.

Is it just me, or does anyone else get the sense from the tone of comments by each guy that Weis and Cassel aren't too fond of each other?

Weis has seemed unimpressed with Cassel from the get go...if you believe in reading between the lines

TRR

08-26-2010, 01:24 PM

Weis has seemed unimpressed with Cassel from the get go...if you believe in reading between the lines

Weis comes off that way about nearly every player. Weis is a cocky asshole. A cocky asshole that knows football.
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Sweet Daddy Hate

08-26-2010, 01:33 PM

Great article, poor subject matter.

CrazyHorse

08-26-2010, 01:37 PM

Great article. That's the first time I've read any of this. Why it took so long to report on this I don't know. Either way, I have serious doubts that the guy is just going to be able to consciously change his personality.

Is it just me, or does anyone else get the sense from the tone of comments by each guy that Weis and Cassel aren't too fond of each other?

Not sure it takes a change of personality as much as a change in approach to his job. A conciuos effort should produce results. Whether good or bad we will see. But it would appear that the change has already taken place.

'Hamas' Jenkins

08-26-2010, 01:38 PM

I still can't fucking believe that they thought this guy was the answer.

notorious

08-26-2010, 01:38 PM

It seems like Cassel has never been the Alpha Dog that kicks people in the nuts for screwing up.

If he had the mental and physical tools, he would have been a starter throughout his career. It takes an Alpha to lead a team to hell and back.

CrazyHorse

08-26-2010, 01:38 PM

Great article, poor subject matter.

huh? :spock:

CoMoChief

08-26-2010, 01:44 PM

Cassel still sucks.

I was wrong, we def should have drafted Sanchez. At least he looks somewhat promising.

Kerberos

08-26-2010, 01:47 PM

Haley recounted. “I said, ‘Rich, you need to sit and talk to Matt, quarterback to quarterback.’”

Ever thought about hiring a QB Coach, Todd? Just a thought...

Is Dick Curl available? :)

philfree

08-26-2010, 01:54 PM

-King-

08-26-2010, 01:59 PM

Cassel still sucks.

I was wrong, we def should have drafted Sanchez. At least he looks somewhat promising.

Eh...not really.

Coogs

08-26-2010, 02:10 PM

Cassel has seemed more in command on the field then he was last year so hopefully there's something to this. Hopefully tomorrow nights game is a stepping stone in the right direction. It should be a good test and perhaps a more telling one as compared to the last two games.

PhilFree:arrow:

I would agree with this. But even with a good showing Friday, I am still going to wait a bit before purchasing a seat on the Cassel Bandwagon. Even if all of the high dollar seats are gone, the view ain't bad once in a while form the cheap seats. I'll wait for the cheap seats.

Red Brooklyn

08-26-2010, 02:13 PM

Cassel will never be a great QB. He'll never be a franchise caliber QB. But he does have room to improve. There are things he can and should do better this year.

Some good signs. I hope he can put his money where his mouth is.

Fish

08-26-2010, 02:13 PM

Is Dick Curl available? :)

I'll stab you right in the junk.....

Red Brooklyn

08-26-2010, 02:16 PM

I'll stab you right in the junk.....

LMAO

I'll help him.

OnTheWarpath15

08-26-2010, 02:24 PM

Yeah, I'm sure getting reprimanded by a guy that threw 4 INT's in a game, then claimed he made no errors would go over really well.

Kerberos

08-26-2010, 02:29 PM

I'll stab you right in the junk.....

LMAO

I'll help him.

Is that name on the list of "Person who shall not be named" ?

ROFL

Stinger

08-26-2010, 02:29 PM

Is Dick Curl available? :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v250/stinger871/Chief%20Planet/2lbcbap.gif

NewChief

08-26-2010, 02:31 PM

I haven't been watching the Chiefs much (last year or this year), but I will say that this article sort of makes Cassel's experiences in KC seem similar to Trent's first year there. Hopefully Cassel steps up and becomes the QB that he was advertised as for you guys.

Fish

08-26-2010, 02:31 PM

Is that name on the list of "Person who shall not be named" ?

Yup. For me in particular, the hate is very very strong.

I once yelled at Dick Curl, as he was heading in the tunnel, that I was gonna burn his house down. He looked at me, and I said "Yes, you Dick."

I feel sorry for Sam Bradford...

Sweet Daddy Hate

08-26-2010, 02:39 PM

huh? :spock:

The article was well written. Unfortunately, it was about Matt Cassel.

Cassel still sucks.

I was wrong, we def should have drafted Sanchez. At least he looks somewhat promising.

They all come around eventually...:thumb:

The Bad Guy

08-26-2010, 02:43 PM

Where's TW to tell me that Cassel chewed people out all the time last year?

The Bad Guy

08-26-2010, 02:43 PM

Sanchez had a decent run behind a good defense last year, but god damn there's not tons that look promising about him.

Cassel blows, but I don't think Sanchez is the answer either.

Sweet Daddy Hate

08-26-2010, 02:54 PM

Sanchez had a decent run behind a good defense last year, but god damn there's not tons that look promising about him.

Cassel blows, but I don't think Sanchez is the answer either.

Depending on who declares, I like the 2011 and 2012 classes better anyway.

Stafford will probably end up being the better of the two in the long run.

DaneMcCloud

08-26-2010, 02:58 PM

Sanchez had a decent run behind a good defense last year, but god damn there's not tons that look promising about him.

Cassel blows, but I don't think Sanchez is the answer either.

Sanchez has been disappointing in preseason, for sure. He's only beginning his second season so it's difficult to state that his career is over.

But from watching him on Hard Knocks (and reality TV can certainly distort the truth), he needs to become much more serious about his career and stop clowning around. He comes across as immature and that definitely needs to change.

Bane

08-26-2010, 03:01 PM

Yeah, I'm sure getting reprimanded by a guy that threw 4 INT's in a game, then claimed he made no errors would go over really well.

Well at least his balls finally dropped.....Wait.......ROFLROFLROFLROFL

CrazyHorse

08-26-2010, 03:04 PM

Cassel still sucks.

I was wrong, we def should have drafted Sanchez. At least he looks somewhat promising.

Sanchez looks awful

ChiefaRoo

08-26-2010, 03:12 PM

Baby Lee

08-26-2010, 03:24 PM

I'll take a memory-free cool guy QB [Montana, 'hey, is that John Candy'] over a berater every day of the week.

One of Green's best characteristics as well.

The Bad Guy

08-26-2010, 03:27 PM

I'll take a memory-free cool guy QB [Montana, 'hey, is that John Candy'] over a berater every day of the week.

One of Green's best characteristics as well.

If you think Joe Montana did not get on teammates for constant drops, then you never watched a lot of old NFL Films pieces.

Trent Green also got on teammates for dropped passes tons in training camp when I was there 6 years ago.

The Bad Guy

08-26-2010, 03:28 PM

Depending on who declares, I like the 2011 and 2012 classes better anyway.

Stafford will probably end up being the better of the two in the long run.

I agree with you.

The nice thing is that the majority of the shitbag teams have spent first rounders on QBs the last few years.

Bucs, Rams, Broncos, Lions

That would leave KC, Buffalo, Cleveland as the bad teams to get QBs at the top of the next draft.

Baby Lee

08-26-2010, 03:31 PM

If you think Joe Montana did not get on teammates for constant drops, then you never watched a lot of old NFL Films pieces.

Trent Green also got on teammates for dropped passes tons in training camp when I was there 6 years ago.

I think it's a matter of tone, and TC is a different platform than game time.

I think of QBs who berate, and I get visions of things like Harbaugh's '87 flameout and the McNabb/TO episode of DwtS a few years back.

DeezNutz

08-26-2010, 03:33 PM

That would leave KC, Buffalo, Cleveland as the bad teams to get QBs at the top of the next draft.

This is not going to happen, and you know it.

Sweet Daddy Hate

08-26-2010, 03:36 PM

I agree with you.

The nice thing is that the majority of the shitbag teams have spent first rounders on QBs the last few years.

Bucs, Rams, Broncos, Lions

That would leave KC, Buffalo, Cleveland as the bad teams to get QBs at the top of the next draft.

I'm not holding my breath on them pulling the trigger in 2011, but who knows?

OnTheWarpath15

08-26-2010, 03:37 PM

I'm not holding my breath on them pulling the trigger in 2011, but who knows?

I don't think this regime will ever take a QB in R1.

If they take a QB at all, I'd fully expect them to take a guy 4th round or later and try (and fail) to luck out again.

Sweet Daddy Hate

08-26-2010, 03:41 PM

I don't think this regime will ever take a QB in R1.

If they take a QB at all, I'd fully expect them to take a guy 4th round or later and try (and fail) to luck out again.

Chiefs Football, brought to you by Prozac.

OnTheWarpath15

08-26-2010, 03:44 PM

Chiefs Football, brought to you by Prozac.

LMAO

Or as htismaqe used to say:

"Mediocrity: The Official Treadmill of the Kansas City Chiefs"

This team will never be more than mediocre without a franchise QB.

BigMeatballDave

08-26-2010, 04:03 PM

Cassel still sucks.

I was wrong, we def should have drafted Sanchez. At least he looks somewhat promising.Oh my, you just made RoR JIHP...

ChiefsCountry

08-26-2010, 05:04 PM

Cassel blows, but I don't think Sanchez is the answer either.

I disagree. I think Sanchez is going to have a career similar to Aikman. Not real big stats but wins. Now do I think he wins three Super Bowls doubt it bc very few do but I think stats wise you will see them having very similar careers.

ChiefaRoo

08-26-2010, 05:20 PM

We should of taken Drew Brees back in the day when he was just sitting there begging to be the next Len Dawson. Who would we have wanted lately that would be good now? Rivers, no.... Sanchez..no, Josh FREEMAN?!

Chiefs Pantalones

08-26-2010, 05:28 PM

Sanchez is ok, I think he has the "potential" to be better than he is. I think he's letting the game be too big for him. If he has this confidence that people speak of, he should show it with his play. Hell, freakin' Chase Daniel isn't the most talented player and he's tearing it up this preseason because he never lost that confidence he had in college. I know he's doing it against scrubs, but my point is all that confidence Sanchez had in college, he didn't take it with him. It shows with his play. If you've ever played organized sports you know what I'm talking about. Confidence goes a long way.

The Bad Guy

08-26-2010, 05:33 PM

I disagree. I think Sanchez is going to have a career similar to Aikman. Not real big stats but wins. Now do I think he wins three Super Bowls doubt it bc very few do but I think stats wise you will see them having very similar careers.

Zero point zero chance that he's anything close to Aikman. They couldn't have different skill sets.

LaChapelle

08-26-2010, 05:40 PM

He looks cock in that beard

Rasputin

08-26-2010, 05:45 PM

[QUOTE=Laz;6955726]Cassel's a new man in Kansas City

When the three-time Super Bowl winner went down with a knee injury in the 2008 season opener, Cassel guided New England to a 10-5 record in his first starts since high school. This led to his acquisition by Kansas City and subsequent six-year, $63 million contract extension for a player initially considered a throwaway 2005 seventh-round Patriots (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/team/new-england-patriots/67054) draft choice from Southern Cal.[/B]
QUOTE]

Raiduhs

Sweet Daddy Hate

08-26-2010, 05:50 PM

[quote=Laz;6955726]Cassel's a new man in Kansas City

When the three-time Super Bowl winner went down with a knee injury in the 2008 season opener, Cassel guided New England to a 10-5 record in his first starts since high school. This led to his acquisition by Kansas City and subsequent six-year, $63 million contract extension for a player initially considered a throwaway 2005 seventh-round Patriots (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/team/new-england-patriots/67054) draft choice from Southern Cal.[/b]
QUOTE]

Raiduhs

LMAO

SAUTO

08-26-2010, 06:54 PM

Where's TW to tell me that Cassel chewed people out all the time last year?

lol yep he was sure a hot head. screaming at the players all the time....
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Pasta Little Brioni

08-26-2010, 06:56 PM

Well since we turn other threads into Cassel bashing ones, I'll use this to point out that Leinart has already been benched and Derek Anderson will be the starter this week for the Cards ROFL

petegz28

08-26-2010, 07:09 PM

Yes, Cassel needs to work on his game but he is still the field general of the offense. And when guys drop passes that hit them right in the hands or run the wrong route he needs to let them know that isn't acceptable. It's almost a double standard but he has to do it. All good QB's do. Trent did it, Manning does it, Favre does it, Marino did it. And that goes for the o-line as well. When defenders are in Cassel's face at the snap of the ball he needs to let the guys have it. Not be an asshole but be a leader.

Chiefs Pantalones

08-26-2010, 07:12 PM

In all fairness...

Aaron Rodgers is 11-15, 89 yards and 2 tds tonight. Noodle arm :)

GET EM'!

JD10367

08-26-2010, 07:15 PM

In all fairness...

Aaron Rodgers is 11-15, 89 yards and 2 tds tonight. Noodle arm :)

GET EM'!

How many were for short yardage?

Chiefs Pantalones

08-26-2010, 07:17 PM

How many were for short yardage?

lol he's taken a couple downfield shots actually but hasn't connected. I'm just stirring the pot a bit I don't care.

petegz28

08-26-2010, 07:18 PM

lol he's taken a couple downfield shots actually but hasn't connected. I'm just stirring the pot a bit I don't care.

People do need to keep in mind though that Weis's offense is not an air it out down the field type offense. It is a dink and and dunk, conservative, high-percentage pass type that looks for YAC. It's almost a shotgun version of the West Coast.

Rasputin

08-26-2010, 07:22 PM

Well since we turn other threads into Cassel bashing ones, I'll use this to point out that Leinart has already been benched and Derek Anderson will be the starter this week for the Cards ROFL

:hmmm: Ya think Cassel would have beaten out Leinart or Derek Anderson if he was a Card this year? He couldn't beat out Leinart in college.

MadMax

08-26-2010, 07:25 PM

YAY! We have a "pissed off" shitty QB now :)

MadMax

08-26-2010, 07:26 PM

:hmmm: Ya think Cassel would have beaten out Leinart or Derek Anderson if he was a Card this year? He couldn't beat out Leinart in college.

He can't even beat his own meat, it beats him :)

Pasta Little Brioni

08-26-2010, 07:27 PM

:hmmm: Ya think Cassel would have beaten out Leinart or Derek Anderson if he was a Card this year? He couldn't beat out Leinart in college.

Don't really care, but, but, but Leinart is in the wrong system, so who knows.

notorious

08-26-2010, 07:27 PM

From now on, every dump I take after eating Taco Tico shall be name "Angry Cassel".

JD10367

08-26-2010, 07:30 PM

:hmmm: Ya think Cassel would have beaten out Leinart or Derek Anderson if he was a Card this year? He couldn't beat out Leinart in college.

And Brady had to drink Gatorade for two years and watch Brian Griese, and then battle it out with the unstoppable force Drew Henson. And Brady was a throwaway 6th-round pick (whereas Cassel was a throwaway 7th-round pick).

And, no, I'm not so much of a Cassel-jock-carrier that I'm actually comparing him to Brady. But the point is, what a guy did in college and where he was drafted kinda means diddlyshit. See "Leaf, Ryan" and "Mirer, Rick". Or how about Jeff George? Guy probably had one of the best arms in NFL history, but... :shrug:

Tribal Warfare

08-26-2010, 07:34 PM

And Brady had to drink Gatorade for two years and watch Brian Griese, and then battle it out with the unstoppable force Drew Henson. And Brady was a throwaway 6th-round pick (whereas Cassel was a throwaway 7th-round pick).

And, no, I'm not so much of a Cassel-jock-carrier that I'm actually comparing him to Brady. But the point is, what a guy did in college and where he was drafted kinda means diddlyshit. See "Leaf, Ryan" and "Mirer, Rick". Or how about Jeff George? Guy probably had one of the best arms in NFL history, but... :shrug:

Their's one big whole in this arguement Cassel has been a CAREER backup since highschool if this guy was a real leader after Leinart beat him out he would have gotten a transfer immediately so he can start at another college.

petegz28

08-26-2010, 07:36 PM

Their's one big whole in this arguement Cassel has been a CAREER backup since highschool if this guy was a real leader after Leinart beat him out he would have gotten a transfer immediately so he can start at another college.

Well, now he is a starting QB. We have to deal with that. No amount of bitching on the Chiefs Planet is going to change the fact that he is our starter.

notorious

08-26-2010, 07:36 PM

Rasputin

08-26-2010, 08:31 PM

There's this guy see, his name is David Banner. He is a real nice guy & helps people out on his travels. The thing is you wouldn't want to make him mad. You wouldn't like him if you made him mad. So don't piss off David Banner if you know what's good for ya. fyi

The Bad Guy

08-26-2010, 08:37 PM

Their's one big whole in this arguement Cassel has been a CAREER backup since highschool if this guy was a real leader after Leinart beat him out he would have gotten a transfer immediately so he can start at another college.

Ha. This is hilarious.

Maybe he loved USC? I mean, god damn, he played behind Carson Palmer and Matt Leinart, who was a college god.

It's not like he played behind Tyler Palko.

boogblaster

08-26-2010, 08:38 PM

matty is pissed now .. footballs thru their helmets .. brains everywhere ...

philfree

08-26-2010, 08:40 PM

Ha. This is hilarious.

Maybe he loved USC? I mean, god damn, he played behind Carson Palmer and Matt Leinart, who was a college god.

It's not like he played behind Tyler Palko.

I remember reading something about Cassel having a chance to transfer and start but he chose not to. Mecca might know if I'm rembering correctly.

PhilFree:arrow:

Rasputin

08-26-2010, 08:47 PM

I remember reading something about Cassel having a chance to transfer and start but he chose not to. Mecca might know if I'm rembering correctly.

PhilFree:arrow:

He actually tried out to be a TE, but failed. True- Tops playing card.

Tribal Warfare

08-26-2010, 09:36 PM

I remember reading something about Cassel having a chance to transfer and start but he chose not to. Mecca might know if I'm rembering correctly.

PhilFree:arrow:

If he did that I'd respect him more at least.

Sweet Daddy Hate

08-26-2010, 11:05 PM

YAY! We have a "pissed off" shitty QB now :)

LMAO

'Hamas' Jenkins

08-26-2010, 11:14 PM

Leinart wasn't a college god when he was in that competition with Cassel in 2003. Cassel was supposed to win the job. He was the better recruit with the prototypical size.

BossChief

08-26-2010, 11:26 PM

Leinart wasn't a college god when he was in that competition with Cassel in 2003. Cassel was supposed to win the job. He was the better recruit with the prototypical size.

all they had to see was both throw one pass over 10-15 years, I bet

Sweet Daddy Hate

08-26-2010, 11:32 PM

all they had to see was both throw one pass over 10-15 years, I bet

Shit, from what I saw on ESPN replay, all you had to do was hand the ball to Reggie Bush and go back to the bench and drink a Gatorade while texting for post-game blowjob.

milkman

08-27-2010, 04:19 AM

Yup. For me in particular, the hate is very very strong.

I once yelled at Dick Curl, as he was heading in the tunnel, that I was gonna burn his house down. He looked at me, and I said "Yes, you Dick."

I feel sorry for Sam Bradford...

Take this for what it's worth, but I watched the first half of the Ram/Patriot game last night and Sam Bradford looks far more advanced in his mechanics, foot work, and reads in three months of OTAs, minicamps, TC and preseason than Matt Cassel does right now after 5 years in the NFL.

the Talking Can

08-27-2010, 05:53 AM

count me in as shocked by Bradford's performance....

too bad he lost Avery

Bane

08-27-2010, 05:55 AM

Take this for what it's worth, but I watched the first half of the Ram/Patriot game last night and Sam Bradford looks far more advanced in his mechanics, foot work, and reads in three months of OTAs, minicamps, TC and preseason than Matt Cassel does right now after 5 years in the NFL.

Career back up/clip board carrier vs possible franchise QB Hmmmmmm.
ROFLROFL
Makes ya wonder if Casshole watches any football at all.He would have to notice how bad he sucks ass compared to almost every QB in the NFL.

xztop12

08-27-2010, 06:30 AM

I could live with it if we at least had a work in progress buried on the depth chart somewhere.:)

SAUTO

08-27-2010, 06:42 AM

Their's one big whole in this arguement Cassel has been a CAREER backup since highschool if this guy was a real leader after Leinart beat him out he would have gotten a transfer immediately so he can start at another college.

so are you saying that a true leader would have quit and gone somewhere else?

how can a quitter lead?

Fish

08-27-2010, 08:45 AM

Take this for what it's worth, but I watched the first half of the Ram/Patriot game last night and Sam Bradford looks far more advanced in his mechanics, foot work, and reads in three months of OTAs, minicamps, TC and preseason than Matt Cassel does right now after 5 years in the NFL.

I'm not really surprised, but how much of that do you attribute to Curly Dick?

milkman

08-27-2010, 08:53 AM

I'm not really surprised, but how much of that do you attribute to Curly Dick?

I can't say how much.

I was making an observation, however, that suggested there isn't a need to feel sorry for Bradford.

Whether due to, or in spite of, Curl, he's progressing.

Fish

08-27-2010, 09:01 AM

I can't say how much.

I was making an observation, however, that suggested there isn't a need to feel sorry for Bradford.

Whether due to, or in spite of, Curl, he's progressing.

Ahhh. I see now.

What a bizarre feeling that must be... to see your QB progress regardless of the conditions...

Sweet Daddy Hate

08-27-2010, 10:11 AM

Ahhh. I see now.

What a bizarre feeling that must be... to see your QB progress regardless of the conditions...

Talent is SO overrated...