McCluster

[luv]

I think I'm going to like him.

[milkman]

He's going to be a dynamic and elctrifying playmaker.

I'm just concerned about his durability and longevity.

[boogblaster]

he b bad

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

He's gonna be awesome for a long time !

[58-4ever]

Cool thread.

[luv]

He's going to be a dynamic and elctrifying playmaker.

I'm just concerned about his durability and longevity.

He took a few hard hits and bounced right back. Hope hits like that don't wear him down too soon.

I liked both him and Arenas returning. McCluster has speed, and Arenas is "shifty".

[BWillie]

He's going to be a dynamic and elctrifying playmaker.

I'm just concerned about his durability and longevity.

That's funny I don't remember him having injury problems at ole miss

[Mr. Laz]

everyone loved Dante Hall

[Dave Lane]

No no no no mi amour. Fat unmotivated NT. This pick was wasted, I read it right here.

[googlegoogle]

http://www.replikultes.net/medias/uploads/films/tropic_thunder/tropic_thunder_01_alpa_chino.jpg

[Coach]

He's going to be a dynamic and elctrifying playmaker.

I'm just concerned about his durability and longevity.

You're not the only one. Hopefully he'll start to understand that its okay to get down before getting lit up, in certain situations.

Would also help if his QB's won't get him exposed as well.
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[Chiefs Pantalones]

I think I'm going to like him.

Like Denise-Rich Gannon-like? Or like he's gonna be a good player and you'll like that?

[Epic Fail 007]

unlike hall though he played both wr and rb in college,hall just played rb plus mcluster will hold he has a different build than hall,he has more muscle ,where hall was just a string bean.mcluster ,im sure he prepared his body better since he did this his whole time at ol miss

[luv]

Like Denise-Rich Gannon-like? Or like he's gonna be a good player and you'll like that?

I think he's going to be a good player.

[stevieray]

,where hall was just a string bean

not true..don't know if Mccluster is bigger, but Halls legs were stacked.

[chiefzilla1501]

everyone loved Dante Hall

After watching the preseason, you still think these guys are even close to being the same player?

[milkman]

That's funny I don't remember him having injury problems at ole miss

He's small.

At some point the pounding is going to start taking a toll.


And this ain't college, even if it was the SEC.

[chiefzilla1501]

He's small.

At some point the pounding is going to start taking a toll.


And this ain't college, even if it was the SEC.

It depends on how they use him. If they keep using him as that inside run back, which I think is completely stupid, I think he'll be fine. If most of the hits are coming at the second level, especially if Cassel doesn't hang him out to dry, I don't see why he wouldn't have a decent shelf life.

I'd be most worried if he was constantly squaring up against Defensive linemen. If he's getitng most of his touches in space, I don't think that's really a "pounding".

[Fish]

It depends on how they use him. If they keep using him as that inside run back, which I think is completely stupid, I think he'll be fine. If most of the hits are coming at the second level, especially if Cassel doesn't hang him out to dry, I don't see why he wouldn't have a decent shelf life.

I'd be most worried if he was constantly squaring up against Defensive linemen. If he's getitng most of his touches in space, I don't think that's really a "pounding".

Huh? Does that make sense?

[Deberg_1990]

everyone loved Dante Hall

and he only had what...about 4 good years? He didnt do much his first couple of years...then was about finished after 06.

Im just hoping McCluster becomes about what a Kevin Faulk has become for NE. I would be happy for even half of that.

[luv]

Huh? Does that make sense?

That puzzled me, too, but I thought it was a lack of understanding on my part.

[BIG K]

I think I'm going to like him.

Yeah, he seems like he can help the Chiefs out a bit. But I agree with Milk and others that he is just too small to take the constant pounding in the NFL. I only watched the last two q's of last nights game and was bewildered with the fact they were running this guy up the gut. Option plays will showcase his abilities, running the guy between the tackles will end his career shortly.......

[beer bacon]

He's going to be a dynamic and elctrifying playmaker.

I'm just concerned about his durability and longevity.

How often did he get hurt in the SEC? How many hits did he take?

[Rasputin]

I like how he takes on defenders like Mighty Mouse. I think he will last long as long as Cassel doesnt get him killed with pass like that. Open space & him enitiating(sp) contact will help him. Don't want to see him get body slammed though, eek wouldn't be good. I want to call him Mighty Mouse yea!

[Dave Lane]

I like how he takes on defenders like Mighty Mouse. I think he will last long as long as Cassel doesnt get him killed with pass like that. Open space & him enitiating(sp) contact will help him. Don't want to see him get body slammed though, eek wouldn't be good. I want to call him Mighty Mouse yea!

Are you related to Tommykat by any chance?

[Pitt Gorilla]

No no no no mi amour. Fat unmotivated NT. This pick was wasted, I read it right here.Yeah, the folks around here HATED the pick. Reach etc.

There is NO WAY that Pioli et al. actually had more knowledge/film/scouts/access than CP members.

[milkman]

How often did he get hurt in the SEC? How many hits did he take?

Once again, this isn't college, even if that was the SEC.

[Blick]

Once again, this isn't college, even if that was the SEC.

The thing with McCluster is...a lot of guys that come out that are his size are slot guys, WR's, 3rd down backs, etc. that don't get contact every play. He lined up as the main running back in the non-spread, smashmouth I-formation and ran between the tackles in the traditionally tough, defensive minded SEC. Dismiss the conference all you want, but that's a significant detail.

EDIT: And he knows how to save his body by ducking out of the way of defenders.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Word.

[BigMeatballDave]

I think I'm going to like him.Cougar...:D

[BigMeatballDave]

Once again, this isn't college, even if that was the SEC.I don't think some people quite understand the difference between college and NFL.

[xztop12]

I think javier arenas is my new favorite chief. That guy is a solid brick

[xztop12]

as more than just a friend

[mikey23545]

I think I'm going to like him.

Don't start cosigning loans again.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

He's 20 lbs. lighter than Dante, but he does appear to be tougher. That said, the dude has gotten absolutely fucking roasted every week, and if he doesn't learn how to avoid those hits, he's gonna end up with a sheared blood vessel in his lungs like Drew Bledsoe.

[michaelj_58]

cassel needs to get the ball to this guy sooner or he is going to get him killed.

[Pioli Zombie]

"No no no no the whole draft was a miserable failure!! Next years too!!". - Mecca

[BigMeatballDave]

He's 20 lbs. lighter than Dante, but he does appear to be tougher. That said, the dude has gotten absolutely fucking roasted every week, and if he doesn't learn how to avoid those hits, he's gonna end up with a sheared blood vessel in his lungs like Drew Bledsoe.Yep. He needs to take some lessons from Marvin Harrison about how/when to take a dive.

[chiefzilla1501]

Huh? Does that make sense?

Sorry. Meant that using him as an inside runner is stupid and they need to fucking stop it. He shouldn't be squaring up against Defensive Linemen if they can avoid it.

[LaChapelle]

Did Sproles have to show his team his toughness too

[Coach]

Sorry. Meant that using him as an inside runner is stupid and they need to fucking stop it. He shouldn't be squaring up against Defensive Linemen if they can avoid it.

Or the draw play in general. I can live without it for awhile.

[ChiefMojo]

Sproles gets lit up all the time and did so in college as well. Sure there is a worry about his size, but there are certain players out there like McCluster and Sproles that are rare breeds.

[milkman]

Sproles gets lit up all the time and did so in college as well. Sure there is a worry about his size, but there are certain players out there like McCluster and Sproles that are rare breeds.

I think Sproles, in his fourth season last year, already started to show signs of wear.

[Mr. Laz]

After watching the preseason, you still think these guys are even close to being the same player?
yes ... i think they are very similar

DMC is faster than dante and has more attitude, but they are the same type player.

undersized college running backs who can return kicks and do some bubble screen type stuff as a wide receiver.

Dante Hall was 20lbs bigger but also 20lbs slower

at the rate McCluster is getting hit he probably won't last as long as Hall either. It will help if they don't use him as a full time KR/PR.

[chiefzilla1501]

yes ... i think they are very similar

DMC is faster than dante and has more attitude, but they are the same type player.

undersized college running backs who can return kicks and do some bubble screen type stuff as a wide receiver.

Dante Hall was 20lbs bigger but also 20lbs slower

at the rate McCluster is getting hit he probably won't last as long as Hall either. It will help if they don't use him as a full time KR/PR.

Dude, they are NOT fucking similar. Dante was a return specialist who had no ability to run routes and because he had no field awareness as a receiver and shaky hands, was not even a good YAC guy. On offense, he was completely worthless. Capable of a big play once every few games and that's it. The only two routes he was effective on was a quick WR screen or an occasional go route where he burned his man.

McCluster is a real receiver. He runs good routes, has great field awareness after the catch, and has natural hands. He's on the field so much on offense that it doesn't appear that he's going to be much of a KR/PR. They've been using him in split back sets, motioning him out to the slot, and he's been catching a lot of underneath stuff.

Just because these guys are short and skinny doesn't mean these guys are nearly the same guy. Are you going to tell me next that Desean Jackson is Dante Hall?

[Fish]

The thing with McCluster is...a lot of guys that come out that are his size are slot guys, WR's, 3rd down backs, etc. that don't get contact every play. He lined up as the main running back in the non-spread, smashmouth I-formation and ran between the tackles in the traditionally tough, defensive minded SEC. Dismiss the conference all you want, but that's a significant detail.

EDIT: And he knows how to save his body by ducking out of the way of defenders.

Yeah...

http://i37.tinypic.com/ics6dd.jpg

[chiefzilla1501]

I think Sproles, in his fourth season last year, already started to show signs of wear.

I would also argue that Sproles is taking a LOT of between-the-tackles carries and has been doing a lot of return stuff, two things that can wear a small body out.

I agree that the Chiefs need to consider McCluster's role very carefully. I'm not as worried about him getting lit up. I just hope the Chiefs are smart not to wear him down by asking him to do too much between the tackles or in the return game. If he's asked to do a occasional outside running and function as a typical slot receiver, I don't see why he would be any kind of an injury or weardown risk.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Zilla is correct. McCluster is light years ahead of what Hall was as a reciever even as a rookie. They aren't the "same player" at all. Dex is a rare breed in that he can run reciever routes very well and chip in and carry the ball.

[Mr. Laz]

Dude, they are NOT fucking similar. Dante was a return specialist who had no ability to run routes and because he had no field awareness as a receiver and shaky hands, was not even a good YAC guy. On offense, he was completely worthless. Capable of a big play once every few games and that's it. The only two routes he was effective on was a quick WR screen or an occasional go route where he burned his man.

McCluster is a real receiver. He runs good routes, has great field awareness after the catch, and has natural hands. He's on the field so much on offense that it doesn't appear that he's going to be much of a KR/PR. They've been using him in split back sets, motioning him out to the slot, and he's been catching a lot of underneath stuff.

Just because these guys are short and skinny doesn't mean these guys are nearly the same guy. Are you going to tell me next that Desean Jackson is Dante Hall?Dante Hall was a running back converted to gadget player

DMC running back converted to a gadget player

just because DMC is a better "version" of Dante Hall doesn't mean they aren't similar.

hopefully DMC will develop as a regular receiver where dante Hall couldn't but i wonder whether DMC will even survive long enough to have time to develop.

[milkman]

I would also argue that Sproles is taking a LOT of between-the-tackles carries and has been doing a lot of return stuff, two things that can wear a small body out.

I agree that the Chiefs need to consider McCluster's role very carefully. I'm not as worried about him getting lit up. I just hope the Chiefs are smart not to wear him down by asking him to do too much between the tackles or in the return game. If he's asked to do a occasional outside running and function as a typical slot receiver, I don't see why he would be any kind of an injury or weardown risk.

Sproles carried the ball as a RB fewer than 50 times over his first two seasons, and only carried the ball 61 times in his third season..

The wear isn't the result of overuse as a RB between the tackles.

It's the result of the fact that smallish players generally don't last.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Other than the fact that McCluster was a reciever at Ole Miss and can actually run reciever routes. This isn't even an argument. They are not in any way the same player.

[milkman]

Dante Hall was a running back converted to gadget player

DMC running back converted to a gadget player

just because DMC is a better "version" of Dante Hall doesn't mean they aren't similar.

hopefully DMC will develop as a regular receiver where dante Hall couldn't but i wonder whether DMC will even survive long enough to have time to develop.

Actually, McCluster is a WR converted to RB in college, converting back to WR in the NFL, so you are off the mark on this comparison.

[chiefzilla1501]

Dante Hall was a running back converted to gadget player

DMC running back converted to a gadget player

just because DMC is a better "version" of Dante Hall doesn't mean they aren't similar.

hopefully DMC will develop as a regular receiver where dante Hall couldn't but i wonder whether DMC will even survive long enough to have time to develop.

What the fuck is your definition of a gadget player?

A slot receiver is not a gadget player.
A running back is not a gadget player.

They have him running legit running plays and he hasn't been bad. They have him running legit receiver routes (unlike Dante, they aren't just screens and go routes). The only gadgetry is the way they're shifting him around. This preseason, they're asking him to do regular running back and receiver duties and he's doing just fine.

It's not like they're running him out of the pistol or wildcat.

Your last point is fine and legitimate. But your point that he's Dante Hall is fucking stupid.

[Mr. Laz]

Zilla is correct. McCluster is light years ahead of what Hall was as a reciever even as a rookie. They aren't the "same player" at all. Dex is a rare breed in that he can run reciever routes very well and chip in and carry the ball.
same http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/6521/fcnotequal.jpg similar


DMC and Hall are VERY similar

[Mr. Laz]

Actually, McCluster is a WR converted to RB in college, converting back to WR in the NFL, so you are off the mark on this comparison.
didn't know that

still ... just because DMC is better doesn't mean the two aren't similar.

they are

[Fish]

I'll give McCluster this.... if he somehow does figure out how to keep himself in one piece while getting good NFL experience, he's gonna develop some downright nasty moves and make some killer highlights. He strikes me as a player that will get much better as long as his appendages don't fall off first... With what we've seen already, that's exciting.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

same http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/6521/fcnotequal.jpg similar


DMC and Hall are VERY similar

Comparing thier skills at the reciever postion. It isn't similar. It isn't even close. In having the abilities to break off an explosive big play at any time, yes they are similar.

[chiefzilla1501]

didn't know that

still ... just because DMC is better doesn't mean the two aren't similar.

they are

Dante = return specialist / completely unnatural receiver
McCluster = slot receiver / running back

They're not similar. They're both small and quick and juke a lot. But so is Desean Jackson. Being the same size doesn't make players the same.

[Mr. Laz]

What the fuck is your definition of a gadget player?

A slot receiver is not a gadget player.
A running back is not a gadget player.

They have him running legit running plays and he hasn't been bad. They have him running legit receiver routes (unlike Dante, they aren't just screens and go routes). The only gadgetry is the way they're shifting him around. This preseason, they're asking him to do regular running back and receiver duties and he's doing just fine.

It's not like they're running him out of the pistol or wildcat.

Your last point is fine and legitimate. But your point that he's Dante Hall is fucking stupid.
they HAVE been working DMC at wildcat

Gadget player = player with no dominant position but is utilized at many positions in special situations.

DMC is not a starting RB
DMC is not a starting WR
DMC is not the starting KR/PR
DMC is the starting gadget player for the Chiefs

it appears they are going to use DMC in a very similar way to Dante Hall only with less return duties and more RB duties. At least that is what they have shown in preseason.

dual back sweeps
reverses
screens
bubble screens
occasional KR/PR (change up with arenas to bring more speed)

if it makes you cry a little less, Reggie Bush is pretty much a gadget player too.

[-King-]

they HAVE been working DMC at wildcat

Gadget player = player with no dominant position but is utilized at many positions in special situations.

DMC is not a starting RB
DMC is not a starting WR
DMC is not the starting KR/PR
DMC is the starting gadget player for the Chiefs

it appears they are going to use DMC in a very similar way to Dante Hall only with less return duties and more RB duties. At least that is what they have shown in preseason.

dual back sweeps
reverses
screens
bubble screens
occasional KR/PR (change up with arenas to bring more speed)

if it makes you cry a little less, Reggie Bush is pretty much a gadget player too.

DMC will be the slot back. Unless you want to go into technicalities, that's a starting spot.

[chiefzilla1501]

Comparing thier skills at the reciever postion. It isn't similar. It isn't even close. In having the abilities to break off an explosive big play at any time, yes they are similar.

I don't think it's even right to say Dante was explosive as an offensive weapon. He had a few long passing plays that were usually the result of great play design that left him wide open. And he had a few YAC plays where he juked players out of their shorts. But people forget that on offense, most of his plays were busted endarounds or short WR screens that went for close to no gain. Dante could only create once he got the ball, but given his limits as a receiver, it was so hard to get it to him. And even after he got the ball, because most of the routes he ran weren't "in-stride" routes, most of the time he didn't have nearly enough space to create.

[Mr. Laz]

DMC will be the slot back. Unless you want to go into technicalities, that's a starting spot.
so far, in this offense, slot receiver is just a glorified name for "trick play" receiver.

Has he caught a single ball on a regular route tree play? Hell, has he caught a pass beyond the line of scrimmage yet? I don't remember.


really hard to tell in this offense because we aren't throwing the ball beyond 10 yards at all, so we will have to wait and see.

doesn't change anything ... just because DMC is a very good version of dante hall, doesn't mean they aren't similar.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

He caught a 20 plus yarder down the field against Philly that was wiped out by a questionable holding call.

[Mr. Laz]

He caught a 20 plus yarder down the field against Philly that was wiped out by a questionable holding call.
yea, i remember that a little

didn't he make the catch on a little 5 yard flare and then run the 20 yards? It was almost a screen in the flat iirc?

[Pasta Little Brioni]

yea, i remember that a little

didn't he make the catch on a little 5 yard flare and then run the 20 yards? It was almost a screen in the flat iirc?

No, the throw went like 20 yards downfield and I think it would have gained like 25 or so.

[-King-]

yea, i remember that a little

didn't he make the catch on a little 5 yard flare and then run the 20 yards? It was almost a screen in the flat iirc?

Your memory sucks. It's like when you were arguing about the Cassel pick and saying that Chambers was on the other side of the field open.

[luv]

Okay, I just drafted him in my FFL. I figured I'd have him if he turns out to be awesome. I think he'd make a great flex option.

[milkman]

so far, in this offense, slot receiver is just a glorified name for "trick play" receiver.

Has he caught a single ball on a regular route tree play? Hell, has he caught a pass beyond the line of scrimmage yet? I don't remember.


really hard to tell in this offense because we aren't throwing the ball beyond 10 yards at all, so we will have to wait and see.

doesn't change anything ... just because DMC is a very good version of dante hall, doesn't mean they aren't similar.

I Think DMC will settle in as primarily the slot receiver.

What seperates DMC from Hall is this.

DMC's versatility creates the opportunity to use him a number of ways, including gadget plays.

Dante Hall's lack of versatility created a situation that forced to Chiefs to use him primarily as a gadget player.

[Mr. Laz]

Your memory sucks. It's like when you were arguing about the Cassel pick and saying that Chambers was on the other side of the field open.
It wasn't memory, it was eyesight if nothing else ...

bowe #82
chambers #84

one was behind Moeaki and the other was open in the middle of the field on a crossing pattern.

The Point of it was is that cassel threw into traffic instead of finding the open receiver.

Which receiver was doing what does mean shit, you just wanted to argue.

[chiefzilla1501]

yea, i remember that a little

didn't he make the catch on a little 5 yard flare and then run the 20 yards? It was almost a screen in the flat iirc?

I remember that one vaguely. Pretty sure that was a downfield route. In the Atlanta game, he caught three or four 5-10 yard in and out routes. And on more than half of the plays, he's not running screens, he's running legit downfield routes.

[Chiefshrink]

IMO when you look at Arenas,McCluster and Charles we have our own Chris Johnson,Reggie Bush and Devin Hester. Is that an overstatement at this point? Maybe but the potential talent of these 3 guys sure mirrors those of Johnson,Bush and Hester IMO.

[Ralphy Boy]

I wasn't a fan of the pick at the time because I wanted Clausen.

Having said that; DMC is unbelievably talented and I love watching the kid play. From what I've seen, he has more heart than any player on our team and I'm glad he's here.

What I also didn't realize when we drafted him was that he has a unique ability to make something out of nothing.

It was a pipe dream to think we would take Clausen and I cannot imagine that there is any other player, that was available with pick 36, that I would rather have.

[Mr. Laz]

IMO when you look at Arenas,McCluster and Charles we have our own Chris Johnson,Reggie Bush and Devin Hester. Is that an overstatement at this point? Maybe but the potential talent of these 3 guys sure mirrors those of Johnson,Bush and Hester IMO.
at the risk of being called to task :) it's a similar situation hopefully


reggie bush/DMC are similar (bush is much bigger)
Chris Johnson and Charles aren't really alike but they are similar weapons
Hopefully arenas bring impact to the return game like Hester although they aren't alike

[Mr. Laz]

I wasn't a fan of the pick at the time because I wanted Clausen.

Having said that; DMC is unbelievably talented and I love watching the kid play. From what I've seen, he has more heart than any player on our team and I'm glad he's here.

What I also didn't realize when we drafted him was that he has a unique ability to make something out of nothing.

It was a pipe dream to think we would take Clausen and I cannot imagine that there is any other player, that was available with pick 36, that I would rather have.
i still don't like the pick but that doesn't mean i can't like McCluster.


i still think there was talented players that would fill bigger needs for us.

[Chiefshrink]

at the risk of being called to task :) it's a similar situation hopefully


reggie bush/DMC are similar (bush is much bigger)
Chris Johnson and Charles aren't really alike but they are similar weapons
Hopefully arenas bring impact to the return game like Hester although they aren't alike

It's fun isn't Laz, what we might have on our hands?

Should have clarified that Bush and Charles have almost identical builds and McCluster and CJ are almost identical as well. Arenas is a little bigger than hester "thickness wise" IMO.

[Ming the Merciless]

I dunno why but it also seems like he is a little 'bigger' than his 170...He took some shots but seems pretty tough. I still think he is more of a gadget player, but I have to say that I dislike this pick less now than I did in April.

[Hammock Parties]

I dunno why but it also seems like he is a little 'bigger' than his 170...

Because he's short.

[Coach]

i still don't like the pick but that doesn't mean i can't like McCluster.


i still think there was talented players that would fill bigger needs for us.

And yes, I do agree with you, to an extent, on that angle. However, the fact that outside of Charles, KC did not have a single playmaker that would make a defensive coordinator think twice about a certain player. The fact, along with Arenas (will discuss about him in a moment), was to try to improve the team speed, so to speak.

I felt like last year, they were very slow on the slot position, and Bobby Wade and Lance Long was a big steaming pile of FAIL. I don't think I could stand watching another season out of those two getting zero to negative yards on a quick pass.

I also feel that the excitement that they bring to the table is also another positive, not just to excite the fans, but to energize the team. Case in point, other than getting the "ooooh" on getting knocked the fuck out, was that he can make people miss badly. And this is where Arenas come into mind here.

When Arenas was returning kickoffs or punts, before the punts/kicks, people from the stands were literally standing up when the ball was mid-air, becuase of the anticipation that Arenas, and McCluster to a lesser extent, are more than capable of taking it to the house, or at least getting the Chiefs great field position.

Now, not to hi-jack it completely, but want to also make another point on Arenas. I have not, as far as my memory serves me, made a dumbass move on the kicks/punts up to this point. If he did have one or two, then I may have missed it, but the fact that he's a rookie, and is doing things like a seasoned returner, well, that's just amazing.

[kcchiefsus]

so far, in this offense, slot receiver is just a glorified name for "trick play" receiver.

Has he caught a single ball on a regular route tree play? Hell, has he caught a pass beyond the line of scrimmage yet? I don't remember.


really hard to tell in this offense because we aren't throwing the ball beyond 10 yards at all, so we will have to wait and see.

doesn't change anything ... just because DMC is a very good version of dante hall, doesn't mean they aren't similar.

Well then I guess you could say Dante Hall and Percy Harvin are similar. The difference is that McCluster and Harvin are used at runningback. I don't ever recall Hall taking snaps at runningback. McCluster and Harvin are more versatile than Hall ever was.

[Ralphy Boy]

i still think there was talented players that would fill bigger needs for us.

Who would you have rather had?


Should have clarified that Bush and Charles have almost identical builds and McCluster and CJ are almost identical as well.

Interesting. I would have said CJ & Charles had more similar builds than the others. I see Reggie is listed as 6' but I believe at the combine he was listed at 5'10".

[Mr. Laz]

Well then I guess you could say Dante Hall and Percy Harvin are similar. The difference is that McCluster and Harvin are used at runningback. I don't ever recall Hall taking snaps at runningback. McCluster and Harvin are more versatile than Hall ever was.
Hall did take some snaps at RB and ran reverses at WR.

Harvin,Bush,Hall,DMC are all this "flex" position type guys ... Cribbs is too but he is so much bigger and less of a jitterbug guy. Harvin is more of a slasher type too. DMC/Hall/Bush are pretty much, all 3, waterbugs.

DMC is the smallest of the bunch

DMC - 5'8" 170lbs
Hall - 5'8" 187lbs
Harvin - 5'11" 184lbs
Bush - 6'0" 203lbs
Josh Cribbs - 6'1" 215lbs

[Coach]

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v39/SwedeCarlson/?action=view&current=MVI_0676.mp4

[Quesadilla Joe]

mortreport

RT @yaz19: @mortreport how does McCluster compare to last year's version of Harvin? >> Dexter is quick but Harvin bigger, faster, stronger

https://twitter.com/mortreport/status/22457597209

[Ralphy Boy]

Hall did take some snaps at RB and ran reverses at WR.

Harvin,Bush,Hall,DMC are all this "flex" position type guys ... Cribbs is too but he is so much bigger and less of a jitterbug guy. Harvin is more of a slasher type too. DMC/Hall/Bush are pretty much, all 3, waterbugs.

DMC is the smallest of the bunch

DMC - 5'8" 170lbs
Hall - 5'8" 187lbs
Harvin - 5'11" 184lbs
Bush - 6'0" 203lbs
Josh Cribbs - 6'1" 215lbs

Yeah FWIW, I am sure that Bush was listed at 5'10.5" prior to the draft. He's thicker than most of those guys, but he's not 6'.

In regards to the size of DMC/Hall, I'd be very happy if DMC was as capable of a return man as Hall, but Arenas is more likely to fill the role of Hall and Arenas is just under 200.

As a point of clarification; is it the general consensus among everyone on here that a return man takes more of a pounding than a WR or RB?

That is definitely not how I see it. I am worried about the pounding DMC will take if he has to keep making catches with his back to a defender. He might be tough as nails, but getting hit by a mack truck on a weekly basis will not bode well for him having a long career. Safeties and LB's outweigh him by 30 to 70 lbs. Simple physics would tell you that his body can't hold up, over time, if this keeps up.

I think that its one thing if he is running the ball and running head on into a defender, as opposed to a hitch route where he has to turn to make a catch and look the ball in, making him incapable of seeing a defender coming at him. Your basic hitch route could get him destroyed and I think that is where that big pop came from the other night. Slants and screens are one thing but they have to be smart enough with him to not get his head taken off.

I would be interested to see some stats about injuries on given plays. Do the bulk of neck/head injuries follow a reception? Do leg/knee injuries, outside of freak ACL tears from landing awkwardly, occur when running into a pile?

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

"No no no no the whole draft was a miserable failure!! Next years too!!". - Mecca

This post makes Cunty Cunterson weep from the grave. :shake::D

[chiefzilla1501]

https://twitter.com/mortreport/status/22457597209

Nothing that throws anybody by surprise.

But what Mort didn't use is the word "quicker" and McCluster is most certainly quicker than Harvin.

[Pablo]

https://twitter.com/mortreport/status/22457597209You're the sole reason I fucking hate twitter.

Just thought I'd let you know.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

You're the sole reason I fucking hate twitter.

Just thought I'd let you know.

LMAO

[BWillie]

Nothing that throws anybody by surprise.

But what Mort didn't use is the word "quicker" and McCluster is most certainly quicker than Harvin.

He's actually just shorter, so it's easier for him to change directions. I don't know if quicker is the word, because I think Percy Harvin is definitely faster. I think the best word is more agile.

[-King-]

He's actually just shorter, so it's easier for him to change directions. I don't know if quicker is the word, because I think Percy Harvin is definitely faster. I think the best word is more agile.

DMC is definitely quicker. Harvin can't make the moves DMC can make at full speed. He can't juke like DMC can.

[Windcatcher]

just picked him up in my fantasy team...i think he's a Holmes/Hall hybred and will be an NFL ROY if given enough opportunities to showcase his talent.

[luv]

I don't see the point in comparing him to other players. So he is built like one person, moves like someone else, and is as fast as yet another person. That's all fine and dandy, but regardless of how well he plays compared to someone else (past or present), I will enjoy watching him play and seeing where he fits in to our scheme.

[go bo]

I don't see the point in comparing him to other players. So he is built like one person, moves like someone else, and is as fast as yet another person. That's all fine and dandy, but regardless of how well he plays compared to someone else (past or present), I will enjoy watching him play and seeing where he fits in to our scheme.you know, you're beginning to sound like a football chick... :clap: :clap: :clap:

[mcaj22]

There is no justification if he starts stealing looks/is on the field more than Charles. They worked this guy a shit load in preseason and I really hope that's not the same load they give him in the season, because it will absolutely take away from JC.

[chiefzilla1501]

He's actually just shorter, so it's easier for him to change directions. I don't know if quicker is the word, because I think Percy Harvin is definitely faster. I think the best word is more agile.

That's about accurate. He didn't do great on the 40, but he dominated the cone drills. Harvin's a lot more dangerous before getting the ball, but I'd argue McCluster is a lot more dangerous after he gets it.

[Ralphy Boy]

There is no justification if he starts stealing looks/is on the field more than Charles. They worked this guy a shit load in preseason and I really hope that's not the same load they give him in the season, because it will absolutely take away from JC.


I'm hopeful that they were primarily giving him so many rushes just to see how he would do. When he was drafted, they used the multi-purpose tag when talking about his ability. That could have been coach speak for "we hope he'll be able to be our slot WR, but if he can't we'll run him til he breaks."

That said he had 3 catches for zero yards against Philly.

His stats by game thus far:
ATL 0 returns, 3 recep 23 yards, 5 rush 25 yards
TAM 0 returns, 1 recep 17 yards, 1 rush -1 yard
PHI 3 KO returns 111 yards, 2 Punt ret 19 yards, 3 recep 0 yards, 8 rush 47 yards.

[Chiefshrink]

There is no justification if he starts stealing looks/is on the field more than Charles. They worked this guy a shit load in preseason and I really hope that's not the same load they give him in the season, because it will absolutely take away from JC.

That's ok because not only did they play him a manure load to see what he can do but I also believe they showcased him to say to the rest of the league and especially our division that "we have more than just Charles fellas"! "Get ready for McCluster F you up and Arenas around the world":thumb:

[luv]

you know, you're beginning to sound like a football chick... :clap: :clap: :clap:

Flopnuts, Bearcat, and I got to talking to this guy at the P&L District Friday night about the game, the Chiefs, and football in general. Flopnuts decides to try to play wingman or something, and he proceeds to tell the guy that I know a shit ton about football. I'm pretty sure he was nearly drunk though. To the two of you, I say thanks for the confidence booster!

[Hammock Parties]

Nice t-shirt...now try making a first down on offense.

http://i55.tinypic.com/25f2fwj.jpg

[Pioli Zombie]

I don't want him taking carries away from Charles.

[bevischief]

Or Jones.

[Simply Red]

I saw this guy single handedly beat Florida last season, he pwned the second half.

[johnny961]

I was questioning the pick at first but the more I see of this guy the more I'm starting to like this pick. The quickness and those moves on that 94 yd return against SD were amazing especially considering the sloppy field conditions.

[RustShack]

Where can I get that shirt?

[JoeyChuckles]

Quality post #4 of #22: So is "The Dex Factor" his official nickname now?

[BossChief]

BWAHAHAHAAHA
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=7011204&postcount=56
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=7012842&postcount=17
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=7012849&postcount=20
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=7013349&postcount=219

Nice t-shirt...now try making a first down on offense.

http://i55.tinypic.com/25f2fwj.jpg

Where can I get that shirt?

Quality post #4 of #22: So is "The Dex Factor" his official nickname now?

:thumb:

[JoeyChuckles]

BWAHAHAHAAHA
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=7011204&postcount=56
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=7012842&postcount=17
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=7012849&postcount=20
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=7013349&postcount=219







:thumb:

You win, and with circumstantial evidence. Way to go.

[clyde05]

he just built a website called dextermccluster.com and he eventually is going to have the dex factor and run dmc t shirts available for sale on there

[Hammock Parties]

That's great.

Will the website be up before he gain a first down on offense?

[-King-]

That's great.

Will the website be up before he gain a first down on offense?

Or before the quarterback realizes he's not 6'5?

Cassel fucked up on 3 throws to McCluster last week. Pissed me off.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Or before the quarterback realizes he's not 6'5?

Cassel fucked up on 3 throws to McCluster last week. Pissed me off.

NO! You're just gussing me, right?

[clyde05]

That's great.

Will the website be up before he gain a first down on offense?

its up now, he just started it just hasnt done thye shirts yet

[-King-]

NO! You're just gussing me, right?

Nope. For no reason, Cassel kept putting the ball 5 feet over McClusters head.

[Smed1065]

Nope. For no reason, Cassel kept putting the ball 5 feet over McClusters head.

Maybe because he was 8 years old? LOL

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[-King-]

Maybe because he was 8 years old? LOL

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:doh!:

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Nope. For no reason, Cassel kept putting the ball 5 feet over McClusters head.

Cassel better buckle down if he is to achieve the goal of hitting DMC's knees and/or nutsac...

Every receiver must be tailored to!