Boise State

[dilligaf]

All they have asked for is a chance to prove themselves against the bigger schools. Next monday they get it. I hope they dont fall on their faces.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=dw-boise083110

[Chiefs Rool]

tl;dr

[threebag]

They should ask for some new turf too

[Bearcat]

its championship hopes essentially boil down to a two-game season.

:shake:


tl;dr

Yeah, it's like a news article or something. :spock:

Here ya go...

http://www.tech-notes.tv/2007/Logos/boise_state_logo.jpghttp://news.sc/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/virginia-tech-logo.jpg

http://www.totalprosports.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/bcs-national-championship-trophy.jpg?????

[JoeyChuckles]

Boise is a state now?

[dilligaf]

:shake:




Yeah, it's like a news article or something. :spock:

Here ya go...

http://www.tech-notes.tv/2007/Logos/boise_state_logo.jpghttp://news.sc/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/virginia-tech-logo.jpg

http://www.totalprosports.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/bcs-national-championship-trophy.jpg?????

Yeah...its a news article. Like the article says, they are playing the game with the rules put in front of them. BSU would like the BCS rules changed also. However most big schools will not play them.

[Bugeater]

I don't care if they do go undefeated, they don't belong in the title game with their joke of a schedule. Hopefully VT beats them so I don't have to hear everyone fawn over them all year long.

[dilligaf]

I don't care if they do go undefeated, they don't belong in the title game with their joke of a schedule. Hopefully VT beats them so I don't have to hear everyone fawn over them all year long.

They do have a joke of a schedule compared to the big schools.

[dilligaf]

Boise is a state now?

No, just a pretty decent football team that would like a chance to play in the big pool.

[BWillie]

God I hope they get hammered so I don't have to hear this crap anymore.

[Bugeater]

They do have a joke of a schedule compared to the big schools.
I don't understand why the Pac-10 went after Colorado instead of Boise. They would have made much more sense geographically and competitively.

[dilligaf]

I don't understand why the Pac-10 went after Colorado instead of Boise. They would have made much more sense geographically and competitively.

True, but BSU doesn't have as big program for the other college sports as Colorado. Its all about the money.:cuss:

[dilligaf]

God I hope they get hammered so I don't have to hear this crap anymore.

Obviously your interested or else you wouldn't have opened the thread.

[notorious]

Boise has put out the "Anyone, Anywhere" challenge, but none of the biggies want to touch them with a ten foot pole.

[dilligaf]

Boise has put out the "Anyone, Anywhere" challenge, but none of the biggies want to touch them with a ten foot pole.

Because they would hate to get embarrassed by that goofy team from Idaho that plays on "Smurf Turf".

[Bugeater]

Boise has put out the "Anyone, Anywhere" challenge, but none of the biggies want to touch them with a ten foot pole.
VT and Oregon are both significant programs. Their problem is their conference schedule.

[Bearcat]

Because they would hate to get embarrassed by that goofy team from Idaho that plays on "Smurf Turf".

Or, it's hard enough playing for the NC when you're in the SEC or Big 12 or whatever, there's zero point in playing anyone in the top 50, much less top 10, in non-con. Blame the system, not the other teams.

[dilligaf]

Or, it's hard enough playing for the NC when you're in the SEC or Big 12 or whatever, there's zero point in playing anyone in the top 50, much less top 10, in non-con. Blame the system, not the other teams.

Did you even read the article? BSU wants the system changed as bad as anyone else to make everything more even.

[Bugeater]

Or, it's hard enough playing for the NC when you're in the SEC or Big 12 or whatever, there's zero point in playing anyone in the top 50, much less top 10, in non-con. Blame the system, not the other teams.
I'd like to see that change, these non-con schedules are a joke. There's only a handful of decent matchups for the first month of college football. There's no reason Nebraska should be playing friggin' South Dakota St in week 4. That was one of the big reasons I gave up my season tickets, I was tired of paying for that crap.

[tk13]

They definitely have the best shot a non-BCS school may ever have at a title. They've got a really talented team that has brought some key guys back. I think Beamer ball is going to be ready for them though.

[dilligaf]

Nobody will give BSU respect because they dont play a more agressive schedule. I get that. But not many bigger teams will put them on their schedule because they dont want to mess up their shot at a NC by maybe getting beat by such a small school. Its a catch 22.

[Bugeater]

Nobody will give BSU respect because they dont play a more agressive schedule. I get that. But not many bigger teams will put them on their schedule because they dont want to mess up their shot at a NC by maybe getting beat by such a small school. Its a catch 22.
I think they're respected for what they are, a good team in a bad conference. And the rest of us hate the system as much as they do.

But like Bearcat pointed out, most BCS conference teams feel their conference schedules are tough enough, and most of them already play at least one formidable non-con opponent each year. Why should any given team play two tough non-con games when no one else is?

[Chiefs Pantalones]

The article is odd. I hear of more people rooting for BSU than I do against them. I hope that some how, some way we get a playoff system in place. Bowl games are so useless it takes a lot out of college football, IMO.

[BWillie]

I'd like to see that change, these non-con schedules are a joke. There's only a handful of decent matchups for the first month of college football. There's no reason Nebraska should be playing friggin' South Dakota St in week 4. That was one of the big reasons I gave up my season tickets, I was tired of paying for that crap.

Not gonna happen unless they go to a playoff w/ seeding like the NCAA tournament that rewards playing a touch schedule. You'll see 4 loss SEC teams get in over ACC 2 loss teams. Bill Synder paved the way

[Bugeater]

Not gonna happen unless they go to a playoff w/ seeding like the NCAA tournament that rewards playing a touch schedule. You'll see 4 loss SEC teams get in over ACC 2 loss teams. Bill Synder paved the way
Oh, I know it's not going to happen, and it's actually money that paved the way. Scheduling these tomato-can teams doesn't require a return trip so teams can generate more revenue by having more home games. Sure, a playoff system like you describe would likely stop some of it, but that isn't going to happen either.

[BWillie]

The article is odd. I hear of more people rooting for BSU than I do against them. I hope that some how, some way we get a playoff system in place. Bowl games are so useless it takes a lot out of college football, IMO.

I'm on the fence. All I know is I hate the NCAA tournament. The NCAA screws the top tier teams out of alot of money by that tournament. I'm all for a playoff in college football if it's BCS run only, and doesn't really have anything to do w/ the NCAA.

[keg in kc]

I've got a feeling va tech is going to put a hurting on them. They always field a good defense (Bud Foster is basically a genius), they have dominant rushing attack to bolster a passing attack that may be about to break out and it's all but a home game, although Blacksburg is a good ways from Landover.

[BWillie]

I've got a feeling va tech is going to put a hurting on them. They always field a good defense (Bud Foster is basically a genius), they have dominant rushing attack to bolster a passing attack that may be about to break out and it's all but a home game, although Blacksburg is a good ways from Landover.

Boise State by a touchdown. I mean we are talking about the ACC here.

[sportsman1]

Boise can handle Va Tech. BSU can score. Always can. That Fiesta Bowl against the Frogs proved they can play defense. BSU vs TCU for the Nat'l Title to implode the BCS. Thats what I am rooting for.

[BWillie]

Boise can handle Va Tech. BSU can score. Always can. That Fiesta Bowl against the Frogs proved they can play defense. BSU vs TCU for the Nat'l Title to implode the BCS. Thats what I am rooting for.

Make a +1 game and there is nothing wrong w/ the BCS really.

[sportsman1]

You know I won't disagree with that. It would solve everything. However, they aren't going to do that.

[Chiefnj2]

Courtesy of TMQ at espn.com:

"Beyond games against lower-division cupcakes that have been hired to lose, football factory colleges also gimmick their schedules with extra home games. In the NFL, schedules are dictated by formulas and teams always play the same number away as at home. In college, it's whatever the opponent will agree to, with the football factory schools offering extra money to the cupcakes to play on the factories' home fields, ensuring the host has home-field advantage.

This year, Alabama, Arkansas, Arizona and Nebraska are among big programs that play seven games at home, five on the road. Florida has seven home games, four away and a "neutral" site game against Georgia. The "neutral" site is Jacksonville -- so in effect, Florida plays eight at home, four away. The Sooners play their first three games at home. That's nothing compared with Kansas State, which plays its four of its first five consecutive games at home -- and the other one is virtually a hme game (in Kansas City). Talk about a cupcake schedule, this one has a cherry atop the icing!

TMQ loves Joe Paterno, but there should be an asterisk on his past few seasons of wins, given that last year Penn State had eight home dates versus four away games and this year it's seven at home versus four away and one neutral site. Texas has seven home games, three away games and two neutral-site contests, though the Longhorns' "neutral" site game against Oklahoma is being played in Dallas. Missouri has seven at home, four away and a "neutral" site game against Illinois that is being staged in Missouri: essentially, eight home games. Auburn gets the nod for phoniest overall schedule in college football. The Tigers don't beat around the bush about it; they simply play eight at home, four away.

More's the pity for cupcake San Jose State, which not only is a cupcake but plays seven away games.

Is there any courage in football-factory scheduling? There's Boise State. The Broncos play six at home, five away and one at a "neutral" site -- at FedEx Field, where the Redskins perform. In effect, that is a home game for the opponent, Virginia Tech, as Boise State's campus is 2,108 miles farther from this "neutral" site than Virginia Tech's. And most Pac-10 teams play six-and-six -- the Pac-10 conference has rules that discourage gimmick skeds. "

[DaKCMan AP]

Nobody will give BSU respect because they dont play a more agressive schedule. I get that. But not many bigger teams will put them on their schedule because they dont want to mess up their shot at a NC by maybe getting beat by such a small school. Its a catch 22.

This is a nice little piece of fiction that BSU wants you to believe.

The truth is that BSU wants to be treated like a big boy in terms of BCS yet wants to be treated like a small school when it comes to scheduling out of conference games. They can't have it both ways.

[Garcia Bronco]

All they have asked for is a chance to prove themselves against the bigger schools. Next monday they get it. I hope they dont fall on their faces.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=dw-boise083110

We had to pay them 1.25 million to play us.

[Garcia Bronco]

Boise has put out the "Anyone, Anywhere" challenge, but none of the biggies want to touch them with a ten foot pole.

Because they want 1.25 million dollars to play them. It's not that people won't play them...it's that people won't PAY them.

Having said all that they have a great chance to win this game. they are returning most of their team form last season. The Hokies lost a bunch of Seniors in the trenches.

[Reerun_KC]

This is a nice little piece of fiction that BSU wants you to believe.

The truth is that BSU wants to be treated like a big boy in terms of BCS yet wants to be treated like a small school when it comes to scheduling out of conference games. They can't have it both ways.

Can you prove that?

That they want to be in the smaller non BCS conference?

Boise will always get the bad rap... People are scared of them.

[MOhillbilly]

good articles about my cuz in the washington post this week.

[Garcia Bronco]

Boise State by a touchdown. I mean we are talking about the ACC here.

Tyrod Taylor inside the 15 had 9 seconds against Suh to win the game.

[dilligaf]

We had to pay them 1.25 million to play us.


And while few major teams are willing to come to Boise’s famous blue turf, the Broncos say they are willing to play without a return game in Idaho. While they demand a high appearance fee (Ole Miss will pay Boise a reported $900,000 to play in Oxford in 2011) that’s far less than the $1.4 million less prestigious and less successful (at least recently) Colorado will get from Ohio State for a single game next season


Straight from the article.

[Great Expectations]

Boise is very good, they held one of the best rushing teams in the Nation (oregon) last year to 31 yards rushing in Eugene. They definitely could have beaten 'Bama last year, they matched up well with them.

They return 10 starters on Defense and I look to them to shut down VTechs running game ftw.

[MOhillbilly]

Boise is very good, they held one of the best rushing teams in the Nation (oregon) last year to 31 yards rushing in Eugene. They definitely could have beaten 'Bama last year, they matched up well with them.

They return 10 starters on Defense and I look to them to shut down VTechs running game ftw.

Casino cash bet?

[Garcia Bronco]

Boise is very good, they held one of the best rushing teams in the Nation (oregon) last year to 31 yards rushing in Eugene. They definitely could have beaten 'Bama last year, they matched up well with them.

They return 10 starters on Defense and I look to them to shut down VTechs running game ftw.

We do have a mostly new offensive line, but the RB talent is pretty good. Some would say top ten in the nation. I have been looking forward to this game for months.

Talking about weak non-confernce scheduling BSU and VT have scheduled tough opening opponents. And Tech last year opened with the number 2 Tide and now the 3 BSU. I am proud of my school for challenging themselves with some of the best.

[El Jefe]

I don't care if they do go undefeated, they don't belong in the title game with their joke of a schedule. Hopefully VT beats them so I don't have to hear everyone fawn over them all year long.

This x eleventybillion!!!!!

[Great Expectations]

Casino cash bet?

sure, I'll put $5000 on Boise winning.

[MOhillbilly]

sure, I'll put $5000 on Boise winning.

Bet.
got you written down.

[The Franchise]

sure, I'll put $5000 on Boise winning.

I'll do the same if you're up for it.

I got $5000 casino cash on Virginia Tech.

[Great Expectations]

I'll do the same if you're up for it.

I got $5000 casino cash on Virginia Tech.

Done

[DaKCMan AP]

Can you prove that?

That they want to be in the smaller non BCS conference?

Boise will always get the bad rap... People are scared of them.

I didn't claim they don't want to join a BCS conference. However, in their current situation they are trying to have their cake & eat it too. They claim that they'll play anyone, anywhere, etc., that no one wants to play them, and that they want to be treated like other deserving teams with Championship considerations.. ie. a big boy. At the same time, they are demanding $1M+ in $$ to go play other big boy teams which is something a small school can do. The way it works is the better a team, the lower the payout. Small schools get much higher payouts than big time programs. They can't claim that no one will play them while at the same time demand huge payouts and be taken seriously.

And while few major teams are willing to come to Boise’s famous blue turf, the Broncos say they are willing to play without a return game in Idaho. While they demand a high appearance fee (Ole Miss will pay Boise a reported $900,000 to play in Oxford in 2011) that’s far less than the $1.4 million less prestigious and less successful (at least recently) Colorado will get from Ohio State for a single game next season

Straight from the article.

BSU is demanding an appearance fee on the order of what cupcakes get. If they want to be treated like a cupcake then that's fine. But if they want BCSCG consideration then they can't do that. No proof and complete speculation on my part, but Colorado needs $$ right now with their departure to the Pac-10, so that may be some explanation for the unusually high fee ohio state is paying.

[Swanman]

Not necessarily comparing Hawaii to Boise State here, but I remember back when Hawaii got into the BCS on the basis of an undefeated record. There were like 20 I-AA schools that had a stronger SOS than Hawaii that year. It's so impossible to judge whether or not a team is deserving of a national title shot if they don't play anyone during the year.

[Reerun_KC]

I will put all my casino cash on Boise St over VT...

Who wants to bet?

[Reerun_KC]

Not necessarily comparing Hawaii to Boise State here, but I remember back when Hawaii got into the BCS on the basis of an undefeated record. There were like 20 I-AA schools that had a stronger SOS than Hawaii that year. It's so impossible to judge whether or not a team is deserving of a national title shot if they don't play anyone during the year.

Playoff...

Otherwise we have to endure this stupidity every freaking year about how one school doesnt belong but playing someone like Western Kentucky on the Non-con is still rewarded.

[MOhillbilly]

I will put all my casino cash on Boise St over VT...

Who wants to bet?

100,000$ ?

all in?

[DaKCMan AP]

Playoff...

Otherwise we have to endure this stupidity every freaking year about how one school doesnt belong but playing someone like Western Kentucky on the Non-con is still rewarded.

Playing Western Kentucky on the non-con is ok when you also have Florida, LSU, Penn State, Arkansas, Tennessee and Auburn or South Florida, Tennessee, Alabama, Georgia, LSU, Florida State and south Carolina or Oklahoma, Nebraska, Oklahoma State, K-State, A&M and T-Tech or Penn State, Michigan, Wisconsin, ohio state and Michigan State or Miami, Wisconsin, Penn State, Iowa and Michigan on the schedule.

It's NOT ok when you have Virginia Tech on the non-con and then the rest of your schedule consists of Western Kentucky types.

[El Jefe]

I will put all my casino cash on Boise St over VT...

Who wants to bet?

Me.

[MOhillbilly]

Me.

hit me up when the season gets goin with games you are interested in betting.

[keg in kc]

Playing Western Kentucky on the non-con is ok when you also have Florida, LSU, Penn State, Arkansas, Tennessee and Auburn or South Florida, Tennessee, Alabama, Georgia, LSU, Florida State and south Carolina or Oklahoma, Nebraska, Oklahoma State, K-State, A&M and T-Tech or Penn State, Michigan, Wisconsin, ohio state and Michigan State or Miami, Wisconsin, Penn State, Iowa and Michigan on the schedule.

It's NOT ok when you have Virginia Tech on the non-con and then the rest of your schedule consists of Western Kentucky types.Speaking as a Michigan fan, Michigan doesn't belong on that list. There may be IAA teams I'd be more afraid of playing at this point.

[BWillie]

If anybody else wants to bet Boise over VA TECH....I'll bet ya say $10,000 casino cash. I think Boise will pull it out, even though I hate them.

[Reerun_KC]

Playing Western Kentucky on the non-con is ok when you also have Florida, LSU, Penn State, Arkansas, Tennessee and Auburn or South Florida, Tennessee, Alabama, Georgia, LSU, Florida State and south Carolina or Oklahoma, Nebraska, Oklahoma State, K-State, A&M and T-Tech or Penn State, Michigan, Wisconsin, ohio state and Michigan State or Miami, Wisconsin, Penn State, Iowa and Michigan on the schedule.

It's NOT ok when you have Virginia Tech on the non-con and then the rest of your schedule consists of Western Kentucky types.

This is why you have to get rid of the current conferences and go to 4 super conferences... Take the division winners of each conference and have a 8 team playoff.


The current structure blows period. Boise St, just like TCU and a few others need to be in a power conference...

You cant have teams like Boise St winning BCS bowls and not in a true conference... ITS not fair for the teams they are beating....

[Reerun_KC]

Me.

100,000$ ?

all in?


split it with you two?

I will go all in taking Boise St straight up...

You guys game?

[MOhillbilly]

split it with you two?

I will go all in taking Boise St straight up...

You guys game?

split(min 100K) and bet. got you marked down.

[MOhillbilly]

If anybody else wants to bet Boise over VA TECH....I'll bet ya say $10,000 casino cash. I think Boise will pull it out, even though I hate them.

bet

[Reerun_KC]

split(min 100K) and bet. got you marked down.

K sounds good.