VandenBosch >> Derrick Thomas

[Chiefnj2]

That Crazy Ole Gunther has been sniffing glue again:

Gunther Cunningham: Kyle Vanden Bosch is the best I've seen
Posted by Michael David Smith on September 17, 2010 11:02 AM ET
Lions defensive coordinator Gunther Cunningham has been a football coach for decades. In all that time, Cunningham says, Lions defensive end Kyle Vanden Bosch is the best of player he's coached.

"I've coached this game a long time and I've coached some really good players, a few of them are in the Hall of Fame," Cunningham said. "But Kyle is the best football player I've ever been around in my life. You can talk about stats and sacks, but put on the tape and watch that game. It was the most unbelievable effort I've seen in 30 years of coaching by any position player."

Those are awfully strong words, but Vanden Bosch is obviously the type of player who makes defensive coordinators fall in love. After all, when he became a free agent, Lions head coach Jim Schwartz, who had previously been Vanden Bosch's defensive coordinator in Tennessee, made a midnight visit to Vanden Bosch's door to get a deal done.

Cunningham is glad Schwartz was able to bring Vanden Bosch to town.

[booyaf2]

Gunther is full retard.

[AndChiefs]

That Crazy Ole Gunther has been sniffing glue again:

Gunther Cunningham: Kyle Vanden Bosch is the best I've seen
Posted by Michael David Smith on September 17, 2010 11:02 AM ET
Lions defensive coordinator Gunther Cunningham has been a football coach for decades. In all that time, Cunningham says, Lions defensive end Kyle Vanden Bosch is the best of player he's coached.

"I've coached this game a long time and I've coached some really good players, a few of them are in the Hall of Fame," Cunningham said. "But Kyle is the best football player I've ever been around in my life. You can talk about stats and sacks, but put on the tape and watch that game. It was the most unbelievable effort I've seen in 30 years of coaching by any position player."

Those are awfully strong words, but Vanden Bosch is obviously the type of player who makes defensive coordinators fall in love. After all, when he became a free agent, Lions head coach Jim Schwartz, who had previously been Vanden Bosch's defensive coordinator in Tennessee, made a midnight visit to Vanden Bosch's door to get a deal done.

Cunningham is glad Schwartz was able to bring Vanden Bosch to town.

It's true...it doesn't matter what you do. As long as you look good doing it.

[MOhillbilly]

why the fuck do we still have to hear about gun?
OH i know!
its because retard GMs keep giving him a job.

[suds79]

If you're a Lions fan, doesn't it make you nervous that someone this crazy is designing your defense?

I'm just picturing crayons, construction paper and a lot of chicken scratch.

[blaise]

Whenever a coach says something about a current player like, "He the best I've coached" or "he's the best athlete I've seen" it's almost always complete BS.

[OnTheWarpath15]

http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/gfiveometer.gif

[alpha_omega]

I was listening to the radio this morning and they said "coming right up...Gunther says something really stupid".

I had to leave the car so i didn't hear what they were referencing, but apparently they were right.

[B_Ambuehl]

I was watching Vanden Bosch last weekend and thinking to myself, "If I were an offensive tackle he would be the last motherf*cker I'd ever want to face. "

Watch him play and you will see exactly why Gunther said this. That dude is a beast and has a motor that runs at 1000 R.P.M and never, NEVER quits.

He's also probably the most complete DE in the league. He plays the run as well as pass and does both of them extremely well. He doesn't ignore the run like most of these other higlight film types.

[CoMoChief]

If you're a Lions fan, doesn't it make you nervous that someone this crazy is designing your defense?

I'm just picturing crayons, construction paper and a lot of chicken scratch.

Forgot to mention the pep talks about taking people's souls and hearts.

[Coogs]

I wonder if VandenBosh will go into the HOF as a Cardinal, Titan, or Lion?

[Fish]

Gunther always has a retarded bromance with one of his players. Every year there's a new "Best he's ever seen!!".

Fuck him. Now that he's not screwing up my team anymore I don't care what the crazy old man does.

[OnTheWarpath15]

I was watching Vanden Bosch last weekend and thinking to myself, "If I were an offensive tackle he would be the last motherf*cker I'd ever want to face. "

Watch him play and you will see exactly why Gunther said this. That dude is a beast and has a motor that runs at 1000 R.P.M and never, NEVER quits.

He's also probably the most complete DE in the league. He plays the run as well as pass and does both of them extremely well. He doesn't ignore the run like most of these other higlight film types.

I heard in interview with Suh a few days ago, and he was asked something about the speed/intensity of the game.

He said that he was dumbfounded by the effort KVB gave on EVERY play.

[MVChiefFan]

I don't even have to look at that game film to know that Kyle Vanden Bosch doesn't wear any sleeves.

[L.A. Chieffan]

Gunther is awesome! We love GUN!!!

Signed, Matt Forte owners.

[Sofa King]

http://www.clonnyserver.com/images/full_retard.jpg

[milkman]

Gunther always has a retarded bromance with one of his players. Every year there's a new "Best he's ever seen!!".

**** him. Now that he's not screwing up my team anymore I don't care what the crazy old man does.

At least his "bromance" is with a player who actually is a hell of a player this time.

KVB is a guy that brings it every game, but to call him the greatest he ever coached is hyperbole.

[booyaf2]

Didn't he say the same thing about Keith Bullock a few years back?

[Valiant]

I was watching Vanden Bosch last weekend and thinking to myself, "If I were an offensive tackle he would be the last motherf*cker I'd ever want to face. "

Watch him play and you will see exactly why Gunther said this. That dude is a beast and has a motor that runs at 1000 R.P.M and never, NEVER quits.

He's also probably the most complete DE in the league. He plays the run as well as pass and does both of them extremely well. He doesn't ignore the run like most of these other higlight film types.
I guess when his stats start backing up his heart as the greatest, we can crown him greatest ever. Right now he is still a rudy.

[MOhillbilly]

At least his "bromance" is with a player who actually is a hell of a player this time.

KVB is a guy that brings it every game, but to call him the greatest he ever coached is hyperole.

Dude has a motor no doubt. Its a coaches dream to get guys like KVB. But fuck gun anyhow.

[milkman]

What was it that Cunther said a few years ago?

I dare someone to say to my face that Kendrell Bell is not a great player?

[HemiEd]

What was it that ****her said a few years ago?

I dare someone to say to my face that Kendrell Bell is not a great player?

That was the first thing that came to my mind when I read this. ROFL

[KC_Lee]

Living in NashVegas I got to see KVB a lot. He does go all out at all times, but he also benefits from having a beast of a defensive tackle, i.e. Hansworth when he as playing for his big contract or Suh, playing along side him on the line.

Take that away and he becomes an average to above average end.

[Chiefnj2]

"They brought in [defensive coordinator] Gunther Cunningham, who’s a [expletive]. And you can quote me on that."
- Scott Fujita.

[Reerun_KC]

Where did he state that Vandenbosch was better than DT?

Gunter is looney...

[milkman]

Where did he state that Vandenbosch was better than DT?

Gunter is looney...

Did you really ask this question?

Does he have to specifically say DT when he says that KVB is the best player he's ever coached, and mentions that he's coached HoFers?

[MOhillbilly]

Take that away and he becomes an average to above average end.

You could argue this about ALOT of good/great players even DT.

[LaChapelle]

I wonder how ol Gun is going to do this week against the Eagles
When the vaunted Atlanta Vicks and their high powered running game came to Arrowhead
Gun dismantled their asses

[chop]

Here's the article:

http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf/2010/09/detroit_lions_kyle_vanden_bosc.html

ALLEN PARK -- Detroit Lions defensive coordinator Gunther Cunningham certainly leans toward hyperbole from time to time, but he went off the charts Thursday when describing defensive end Kyle Vanden Bosch.

In last week's game against the Chicago Bears, Vanden Bosch, 32, recorded a team-high 11 tackles.
"I've coached this game a long time and I've coached some really good players, I've been really fortunate and a few of them are in the Hall of Fame -- in fact, more than a few -- and I think this is the best football player I've ever been around in my life,'' Cunningham said. "You can talk about stats and sacks, but put on the tape and watch that game. It's the most unbelievable effort I think I've ever seen in 30 years of coaching by any position player. Derrick Thomas had (seven sacks against Seattle), but it's not about the sacks, it's about the relentless attitude.
"There was one play when he had three guys around (Bears receiver Devin Aromashodu) and couldn't get him to the ground. (Vanden Bosch) rushes the passer 10 yards up the field, they grabbed him and jerked him down, he rolled up and sprinted 30 yards downfield and killed the guy. That guy still hasn't practiced this week. I can't say enough about him. He's a gentleman, he's a professional.
"After the game, I saw him by the bus and said, 'Kyle, here's the deal. You have to take some time off of practice. I can't get you out, you've got to do it.' And he looked at me point blank and said, 'Well, I can't do it either so I'm going to practice.' And he played 79 plays, which is unheard of. I don't know what else to add to that, other than I'm honored to be able to coach him.

"I could go back through a list of players that I've coached, and they're all great, but I've never seen one like this. Ever.''
This week, Cunningham used Vanden Bosch's performance as inspiration for the rest of the unit in a defensive meeting.
"I talked about him. I had his picture up there, it was a great picture with his red eyes,'' Cunningham said. "I basically told the defense that I never thought I'd say that I met a player at this time and place that I believe was better than Derrick Thomas, Leslie O'Neal and all these guys that I've coached. But I'm telling you, this is the best football player I've ever been around. We need to do our jobs better to live up to his standards.''

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[BossChief]

Its so nice to know he is gone.

[gblowfish]

I love Gunther. He's intense, and loves his guys. OK, maybe he's either off his meds or seriously abusing them this week, but you gotta love his passion. Tomorrow he may think William Bartee was the best player he ever coached, so who knows what's zipping around in his grey matter? I think he may have some bad RAM and needs a chip replacement.

[Chief Faithful]

Derrick Thomas is one of my all time favorites and was much more complete LB then people generally give him credit. But, I would agree some parts of Bosch's game are better. Thomas is still hands down the better rusher and ball stripper.

[KCrockaholic]

Gunther has lost all cred. He's just a sourpuss because we got sick of his dumb ass.

[milkman]

Derrick Thomas is one of my all time favorites and was much more complete LB then people generally give him credit.

I've said this more than once over the years.

I've also said that Cunther did more to contain DT than any OC he ever faced.

Cunther is, IMO, the primary reason that DT earned the reputation as somewhat one dimensional.

[Bowser]

Eric Hicks just went full on FFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUU...........

[RedThat]

http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/gfiveometer.gif

:LOL: that is brilliant

[Demonpenz]

I bet Gun probably didn't like DT half assing practice or coming in smelling like sex.

[lcarus]

Gunther always has a retarded bromance with one of his players. Every year there's a new "Best he's ever seen!!".

**** him. Now that he's not screwing up my team anymore I don't care what the crazy old man does.

So I take it you weren't one of the ones jumping for joy when we signed Gunther as our d-coordinator (for the 2nd time).

[Saccopoo]

Van den Bosch is a complete beast, and is absolutely setting the tone up in Detroit. If I was running a 4-3, that'd be the guy I'd want on the edge. He doesn't have the first step of a guy like Thomas, but no one did. Derrick was the fastest guy off the snap of anyone I've ever seen play the game and rightfully deserves to be in the Hall of Fame.

However, I put VdB along side Ware and Allen as the top ends in the game right now. And he's probably a more complete player than Ware and gives more effort all game long than Allen.

[Rain Man]

If Vanden Bosch plays for 27 years at his current level, he'll have more sacks than DT.

[ClevelandBronco]

When asked to clarify his remarks, Cunningham slurred, "Did I say 'player?' I meant to say 'driver.'"

(Apologies if you suspect that you might be one of DT's children. I don't mean anything by it.)

[threebag]

Gun is a dip shit

[Sure-Oz]

We'll eat their heart and shit out their brains

[the Talking Can]

gunther is a fucking clown

a shit eating clown

[keg in kc]

gunther is a ****ing clown

a shit eating clownThank god he's somebody else's clown.

Now if I can get Michigan to fire Greg Robinson, I'll have all the defensive retards out of my view.

[Chiefaholic]

I don't even have to look at that game film to know that Kyle Vanden Bosch doesn't wear any sleeves.

Yeah... But the real question is, does he have a beard? :D

[BIG K]

That Crazy Ole Gunther has been sniffing glue again:

Gunther Cunningham: Kyle Vanden Bosch is the best I've seen
Posted by Michael David Smith on September 17, 2010 11:02 AM ET
Lions defensive coordinator Gunther Cunningham has been a football coach for decades. In all that time, Cunningham says, Lions defensive end Kyle Vanden Bosch is the best of player he's coached.

"I've coached this game a long time and I've coached some really good players, a few of them are in the Hall of Fame," Cunningham said. "But Kyle is the best football player I've ever been around in my life. You can talk about stats and sacks, but put on the tape and watch that game. It was the most unbelievable effort I've seen in 30 years of coaching by any position player."

Those are awfully strong words, but Vanden Bosch is obviously the type of player who makes defensive coordinators fall in love. After all, when he became a free agent, Lions head coach Jim Schwartz, who had previously been Vanden Bosch's defensive coordinator in Tennessee, made a midnight visit to Vanden Bosch's door to get a deal done.

Cunningham is glad Schwartz was able to bring Vanden Bosch to town.

Isn't this the same guy who came back to the Chiefs, after being fired, and said after looking at the tape of the defense said the Chiefs had all the talent in the world already on the team?

[BIG K]

Gun's success as a D-coordinator came from the talent's of Carter, Hasty, Big SAL, Smith, Thomas, Simien and others.....He has not at any point replicated his prowess since those guys were on the field for him..........

[KC_Lee]

Yeah... But the real question is, does he have a beard? :D

Yes, and red colored contacts he wears during games.