Can Chiefs Win Without Wet ‘N Wild?

[Hammock Parties]

Can Chiefs Win Without Wet ‘N Wild? (http://kan.scout.com/2/1003616.html)

I hate to dampen the enthusiasm following the Chiefs’ thrilling, wet ‘n wild, 21-14 victory over the San Diego Chargers, but now that the euphoria has passed it’s time to ask the tough question:

What happens to the 2010 Chiefs when they aren’t assisted by a torrential downpour, leveling the playing field against superior talent, and backed by a raucous, sold-out Monday Night Football crowd?

Some fans may not want to admit it, but the harsh truth is Arrowhead, combined with terrible weather, deserves far too much credit for Monday’s victory. Certainly we can’t give much credit to Matt Cassel (68 yards passing), Todd Haley (just 11 carries for Jamaal Charles, coach?) or a defense that surrendered 389 yards.

Yes, KC’s defense stood tall with the game on the line. But we have to acknowledge the fact that Philip Rivers, rain and all, without the services of Marcus McNeill or Vincent Jackson, still threw for 298 yards. And this was with 17 passes falling incomplete. What happens if Rivers isn’t tossing slick balls to damp hands all night? Does he break Warren Moon’s 527-yard Arrowhead Stadium passing record?

There’s no question the rain affected the Chargers’ passing game. In addition to several drops, there’s the matter of what transpired during dryer conditions. On San Diego’s first and second possessions, before the heavens opened, the Chargers moved the ball with little resistance. When the rain subsided at the end of the game, Rivers easily moved his offense 61 yards, almost tying the game.

That’s three possessions, 165 yards of offense and nearly six yards per play. Even scarier, the Chargers moved the ball on these three possessions almost entirely via Rivers’ right arm. Kansas City’s defense knew what was coming –Rivers, Rivers and more Rivers - and they couldn’t stop it. When the weather permitted San Diego to execute their passing attack, the Chiefs were no match. Romeo Crennel might as well have been the love child of Gunther Cunningham and Clancy Pendergast. Eric Berry was a nobody.

Now throw in this – what happens if Chiefs fans don’t force San Diego into one false start and three delay of game penalties? What if Rivers isn’t forced to burn at least two timeouts because of crowd noise? It’s worth noting that after every single pre-snap penalty, the Chargers gave the ball up – three times via punt, and once via turning the ball over on downs.

Without the wild Monday Night crowd, quickly KC’s defense begins to look a whole lot less impressive.

And we haven’t even considered the weather’s impact on KC’s scoring chances. Does Ryan Mathews’ fumble, which led to an easy Kansas City touchdown, even occur if he’s carrying a dry ball? Does Dexter McCluster’s electrifying touchdown return take place if San Diego fullback Mike Tolbert isn’t sliding all over the wet Arrowhead turf in a vain attempt to plant his right foot and square up for a tackle?

Yes, McCluster can cut with the best of them, but Tolbert looked like he was sliding into home plate. On a dry field, maybe he trips up McCluster, or slows him down just enough to let someone else make the tackle.

Offense, defense, special teams – a wet ‘n wild Monday Night at Arrowhead assisted every facet of the 2010 Chiefs. We aren’t likely to see such good fortune again this season. Certainly we’re unlikely to see many more wins following 197 total yards of offense and one third-down conversion.

Considering we may see the Chiefs play in another wet affair Sunday at Cleveland (there’s a 50 percent chance of rain), it may be difficult to get a definite grasp on this team for at least another week (and don’t look now, but there’s a chance of rain next Sunday against the 49ers). But who knows what happens outside Arrowhead Stadium? Put it this way – the Browns are not the Chargers, and if Wet and Wild Monday wasn’t a fluke, the Chiefs will return from Cleveland 2-0.

But if the Browns win while Seneca Wallace (or Jake Delhomme, take your pick of lousy quarterbacks) and Jerome Harrison make it rain on KC’s defense, the forecast for a successful 2010 season becomes cloudy.

[chiefzilla1501]

While I don't think you're off point, there were a few points in there that were pretty exaggerated. Berry wasn't a nobody. He made some real good plays, and he made a few bad ones. But you can't take away that once Romeo started to gameplan around Gates not getting the ball, he did his job very effectively.

On the special teams TD, it's simply inaccurate to say that Tolbert slipped only because of the turf. That's a discredit to the moves McCluster makes to set him up for going off-balanced. He juked one blocker right into Studebaker, and once that block was set up, Tolbert has to commit to both sealing the outside edge on his own and making sure the inside line was closed up. The only reason Tolbert went off-balanced was because McCluster set him up like he was going outside and then made a sharp decisive cut to the inside. Even if Tolbert plants, he's still falling down because he's getting pulled in a different direction.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Goddamn you, my spirit is dampened.

[Buck]

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[BWillie]

They are playing the f*cking Browns, not the Chargers again. JFC. Should be 50/50 either way. Just depends on who makes the most mistakes.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

I'm dissappointed in you GoChiefs.

[Marcellus]

.....merely a two word review which simply read "Shit Sandwich".

[Baby Lee]

We were so lucky that Tolbert was on the slipperiest part of Arrowhead's turf and McCluster was juking on it's sole dry patch. Otherwise, we're looking at 0-16.

[chiefzilla1501]

We were so lucky that Tolbert was on the slipperiest part of Arrowhead's turf and McCluster was juking on it's sole dry patch. Otherwise, we're looking at 0-16.

Haha. Well done, coco

[Baby Lee]

.....merely a two word review which simply read "Shit Sandwich".

Where'd they print that, where'd they print that?
Where did that appear?
That's not real, is it?
You can't print that.

[Marcellus]

We were so lucky that Tolbert was on the slipperiest part of Arrowhead's turf and McCluster was juking on it's sole dry patch. Otherwise, we're looking at 0-16.

:clap:

[FAX]

Alternatively, there were these issues as well ...

1) The Chiefs' rookies were, no doubt, nervous as a midget nun at a penguin shoot.
2) It was the first game our team played with the new coordinators.
3) We had one special teams touchdown stopped by a kicker who should have been easily blocked.
4) Our defense stayed on the field for nine thousand and twelve minutes and still had both the energy and will for a successful goal line stand.

There were factors we overcame in spite of everything.

FAX

[yhf]

[QUOTE=GoChiefs;7014565]Can Chiefs Win Without Wet ‘N Wild? (http://kan.scout.com/2/1003616.html)


There’s no question the rain affected the Chargers’ passing game. In addition to several drops, there’s the matter of what transpired during dryer conditions. On San Diego’s first and second possessions, before the heavens opened, the Chargers moved the ball with little resistance. When the rain subsided at the end of the game, Rivers easily moved his offense 61 yards, almost tying the game.

That’s three possessions, 165 yards of offense and nearly six yards per play. Even scarier, the Chargers moved the ball on these three possessions almost entirely via Rivers’ right arm. Kansas City’s defense knew what was coming –Rivers, Rivers and more Rivers - and they couldn’t stop it. When the weather permitted San Diego to execute their passing attack, the Chiefs were no match. Romeo Crennel might as well have been the love child of Gunther Cunningham and Clancy Pendergast. Eric Berry was a nobody.


For what it's worth, the three possessions you referenced resulted in 7 points.

[Marcellus]

Where'd they print that, where'd they print that?
Where did that appear?
That's not real, is it?
You can't print that.

:thumb:

[Red Brooklyn]

We were so lucky that Tolbert was on the slipperiest part of Arrowhead's turf and McCluster was juking on it's sole dry patch. Otherwise, we're looking at 0-16.

:D

[DBOSHO]

If it wasnt wet, san Diego would've got a lot more Charles than they did. We would've probably scored more and controlled the clock.

People need to let go of the rain argument. Last i checked, both teams had to play in the rain. Everybody is so used to seeing kc lose, that when we finally do get a win, people are grasping for straws to find a reason why it was a fluke, or the other team gave it away.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

You can play the what if game almost every week. This week was the weather, another might be officiating or injuries. It never ends.

[Baby Lee]

Alternatively, there were these issues as well ...

1) The Chiefs' rookies were, no doubt, nervous as a midget nun at a penguin shoot.
2) It was the first game our team played with the new coordinators.
3) We had one special teams touchdown stopped by a kicker who should have been easily blocked.
4) Our defense stayed on the field for nine thousand and twelve minutes and still had both the energy and will for a successful goal line stand.

There were factors we overcame in spite of everything.

FAX


Can you imagine what would have happened if everything went SD's way and nothing went the Chiefs way. Why it could have been the biggest blowout loss in the franchise's history.

Chiefs fans better hope that opponents continue to fall short of the perfection of Christ our Lord and Savior, or adjust their expectations of the mortals comprising their team.

[Bearcat]

If it wasnt wet, san Diego would've got a lot more Charles than they did. We would've probably scored more and controlled the clock.

People need to let go of the rain argument. Last i checked, both teams had to play in the rain. Everybody is so used to seeing kc lose, that when we finally do get a win, people are grasping for straws to find a reason why it was a fluke, or the other team gave it away.

I think he brings up some legit points though... it's hard enough to draw conclusions from a single NFL game, much less a game that was all about big plays and had the bad weather ("torrential downpour" is a bit much though... it rained for a long time, but not that hard), a winning QB with 68 yards passing, etc.

It was a fun game to watch and a great night at Arrowhead, it was a win, but not much more than that... it's not a reason to believe the Chiefs are much improved, or improved at all, it's not a reason to think they'll go 9-7 or even 6-10, it's not a reason to think they'll beat the Browns on the road even if the Browns aren't any good..... that's what I get from people trying to pull back the emotions. People aren't trying to tear down a win, they're trying to keep it real.

[OnTheWarpath15]

I don't know why the rain is an argument to begin with.

Rivers threw for just under 300 yards. The rain didn't exactly slow him down.

The Chargers really didn't have a lot of problems moving the ball.

[Baby Lee]

I think he brings up some legit points though... it's hard enough to draw conclusions from a single NFL game, much less a game that was all about big plays and had the bad weather ("torrential downpour" is a bit much though... it rained for a long time, but not that hard), a winning QB with 68 yards passing, etc.

It was a fun game to watch and a great night at Arrowhead, it was a win, but not much more than that... it's not a reason to believe the Chiefs are much improved, or improved at all, it's not a reason to think they'll go 9-7 or even 6-10, it's not a reason to think they'll beat the Browns on the road even if the Browns aren't any good..... that's what I get from people trying to pull back the emotions. People aren't trying to tear down a win, they're trying to keep it real.

Perhaps 'this was an eyelash away from being the most catastrophic loss in human history and everyone played like utter shit when the weather subsided' isn't the optimum way to instill a sense of clear-eyed realism.

[Elwaysux]

I am in Cleveland and going to the game tomorrow. The forecast is for rain.
WE WILL DOMINATE IN THE RAIN. Cassel will throw for at least 70 yards but will say he had a great game because he took care of the ball.

[Chiefshrink]

Last i checked, both teams had to play in the rain. Everybody is so used to seeing kc lose, that when we finally do get a win, people are grasping for straws to find a reason why it was a fluke, or the other team gave it away.

Thankyou!!!!

[Chiefshrink]

Alot of folks here still have questions about Cassel which heightens their anxiety and can't accept a win over an elite team when in reality our team is learning to win at home again and becoming mentally tough expecting to win which we haven't had that since 2005.

We will win tomorrow. Berry goes off!!!

[BillSelfsTrophycase]

Chiefs fans better hope that opponents continue to fall short of the perfection of Christ our Lord and Savior, or adjust their expectations of the mortals comprising their team.

Luckily, we don't play the Broncos till week 10

[threebag]

I am in Cleveland and going to the game tomorrow. The forecast is for rain.
WE WILL DOMINATE IN THE RAIN. Cassel will throw for at least 70 yards but will say he had a great game because he took care of the ball.




70 yrd passing and cassel will have the game ball as a trophy.

[Simply Red]

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THIS!

[Micjones]

Can the Chargers keep the game close without two young DB's crossing coverage responsibility wires?

Silly argument. Rivers picked the secondary apart in that rain.

And I think even after the win fans have been more than honest with their Chiefs regular season prognostications. Nobody thought this was going to be the precursor to winning 11 games.

In fact, many of us are worried that it'll have the opposite effect and set this team up for a loss in a winnable game against an evenly matched opponent.

Monday wasn't a fluke. Neither was it an indication that we're playoff bound.
It was simply what it was...a win.

[Simply Red]

Can the Chargers keep the game close without two young DB's crossing coverage responsibility wires?

Silly argument. Rivers picked the secondary apart in that rain.

And I think even after the win fans have been more than honest with their Chiefs regular season prognostications. Nobody thought this was going to be the precursor to winning 11 games.

In fact, many of us are worried that it'll have the opposite effect and set this team up for a loss in a winnable game against an evenly matched opponent.

Monday wasn't a fluke. Neither was it an indication that we're playoff bound.
It was simply what it was...a win.

pretty much spot on. kudos, Loc.

[TinyEvel]

I'm pretty sure we didn't have one red zone possession as the result of a drive. That worries me. I was at the game. Most of Cassel's misses were so far off - like 5 to 10 yards off. He's lucky Bowe caught that one at his knees near the sideline. This will be an interesting game.

[King_Chief_Fan]

Speaking of IF's............What if you hadn't written this? Would you continue to look like you are back to smokin Athan's joint?

[King_Chief_Fan]

Can the Chargers keep the game close without two young DB's crossing coverage responsibility wires?

Silly argument. Rivers picked the secondary apart in that rain.

And I think even after the win fans have been more than honest with their Chiefs regular season prognostications. Nobody thought this was going to be the precursor to winning 11 games.

In fact, many of us are worried that it'll have the opposite effect and set this team up for a loss in a winnable game against an evenly matched opponent.

Monday wasn't a fluke. Neither was it an indication that we're playoff bound.
It was simply what it was...a win.

much better stated than the WPI/Wendler article

[keg in kc]

I don't know why the rain is an argument to begin with.

Rivers threw for just under 300 yards. The rain didn't exactly slow him down.

The Chargers really didn't have a lot of problems moving the ball.That's not entirely accurate. The Chiefs forced 7 punts and a fumble in 8 drives over a period of time lasting from the early middle of the first quarter until late in the third. Rivers didn't break 100 yards passing until midway through the third and didn't break 200 until the fourth.

[Red Beans]

They are playing the f*cking Browns, not the Chargers again. JFC. Should be 50/50 either way. Just depends on who makes the most mistakes.

This, right here. You think we were heading to Minnesota or something...

[petegz28]

Why is it only the Chiefs benefited from the weather and not the clearly more skilled Chargers?

[royr17]

The Chiefs won on monday clearly cause they was the best team on the field and they'll be ready tomorrow too.

GO CHIEFS !!!

[milkman]

The Chiefs won on monday clearly cause they was the best team on the field and they'll be ready tomorrow too.

GO CHIEFS !!!

ROFL

[Brock]

Why is it only the Chiefs benefited from the weather and not the clearly more skilled Chargers?

Because the Chargers are pussies who don't play well in the weather.

[petegz28]

Because the Chargers are pussies who don't play well in the weather.

And why isn't it we would have done more if the weather was good?

[TinyEvel]

ROFL


:LOL:

[Brock]

And why isn't it we would have done more if the weather was good?

Because our QB sucks no matter the weather. He's an all-season sucker.

[Pioli Zombie]

GoChiefs the Boner Killer.
He's the type of guy who if you had a date with the hottest girl in the world would send you off with reminders not to forget your mother.

[OnTheWarpath15]

That's not entirely accurate. The Chiefs forced 7 punts and a fumble in 8 drives over a period of time lasting from the early middle of the first quarter until late in the third. Rivers didn't break 100 yards passing until midway through the third and didn't break 200 until the fourth.

I didn't know that you get extra points for yardage accumulated early in games.

:D

[Hammock Parties]

I don't know why the rain is an argument to begin with.

Rivers threw for just under 300 yards. The rain didn't exactly slow him down.

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It did. Go look at the drive charts in the nfl.com gamebook. As soon as the rain starts, SD stops moving the ball.

[Hammock Parties]

Why is it only the Chiefs benefited from the weather and not the clearly more skilled Chargers?

Im sure cassel could have hit his usual mediocre 170 yards if it hadnt rained...SD got "lucky."

[keg in kc]

I didn't know that you get extra points for yardage accumulated early in games.They don't, or for yardage accumulated late in games. Either way, the Chargers really did have a lot of problems moving the ball for most of the game.

[milkman]

Im sure cassel could have hit his usual mediocre 170 yards if it hadnt rained...SD got "lucky."

So the argument could be made that if anyone was affected negatively by the weather, it was the Chiefs, because if Matt Cassel gets his normal mediocre 170 yards, the Chiefs might have actually moved the chains a few times, allowing the defense to get some rest, and not be nearly so gassed at the end of the game.

[keg in kc]

So the argument could be made that if anyone was affected negatively by the weather, it was the Chiefs, because if Matt Cassel gets his normal mediocre 170 yards, the Chiefs might have actually moved the chains a few times, allowing the defense to get some rest, and not be nearly so gassed at the end of the game.Valid point.

[petegz28]

So the argument could be made that if anyone was affected negatively by the weather, it was the Chiefs, because if Matt Cassel gets his normal mediocre 170 yards, the Chiefs might have actually moved the chains a few times, allowing the defense to get some rest, and not be nearly so gassed at the end of the game.

I would add that if it hadn't rained our play calling is not so conservative, period. Haley has pretty much said the weather was the determining factor fo the conservative calls and why he didn't give a shit really that we were 1-11 on 3rd down because his main concern was the weather and not turning over the ball

[huffmd15]

Matthews was going to fumble anyhow. He's going to fumble until he learns how to carry the ball. I pointed that out several times to my brother while we were watching the game that the kid was going to cough up the ball. Sure enough, he did.

The crowd is what is what some people call "Home Field Advantage". Remember when this was what KC was known for?

The weather is part of the game. Good teams win in bad weather. It separates the men from the boys.

Every party has a pooper. That's why we invited you.

[FAX]

I mentioned this once before but, unfortunately, no one deemed it sufficiently significant to comment upon ... perhaps this time somebody will deem it, damn it ...

I always heard that, when weather conditions were poor, the advantage went to the offense ... on account of the fact they "know" where they're going, whereas the defense has to react and, as a result, in poor footing, the defensive guys are a step slower than usual ...

It kind of makes sense ... but Monday night, it didn't seem to play out that way ...

FAX

[milkman]

I mentioned this once before but, unfortunately, no one deemed it sufficiently significant to comment upon ... perhaps this time somebody will deem it, damn it ...

I always heard that, when weather conditions were poor, the advantage went to the offense ... on account of the fact they "know" where they're going, whereas the defense has to react and, as a result, in poor footing, the defensive guys are a step slower than usual ...

It kind of makes sense ... but Monday night, it didn't seem to play out that way ...

FAX

In the past, that was the convetional thinking, and I don't know that it's any different now.

[keg in kc]

I don't think it was the weather that hurt San Diego, I think it was Rivers' ongoing temper tantrum at the rest of the offense. The crowd was a much bigger factor Monday than the rain.

[Hammock Parties]

the determining factor fo the conservative calls and why he didn't give a shit really that we were 1-11 on 3rd down because his main concern was the weather and not turning over the ball

the weather?

its raining men!

http://fantasyknuckleheads.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/matt-cassel.jpg

[Simply Red]

And why isn't it we would have done more if the weather was good?

peter is droppin' knowledge, folks.

[boogblaster]

we b gona beat da panties oft da brownies

[petegz28]

GoChiefs would have us all believe that if the weather was good SD would have shut down Charles. Just like they shut him down when the field wasn't bad yet. Oh, wait....

I guess his jock-dropping, 56 yd TD run was because of the weather too? Even though it had only been raining about 5 minutes and not even that hard.

[FAX]

Rain or not ... home field crowd or not ... Monday night or not ... there's little doubt that, last year, we would have lost that game ...

We're an improved team ... now let's kick some Brown ass ...

FAX

[petegz28]

Rain or not ... home field crowd or not ... Monday night or not ... there's little doubt that, last year, we would have lost that game ...

We're an improved team ... now let's kick some Brown ass ...

FAX

We looked much improved on defense. Guys were flying to the ball and hitting hard and tackling. Only on 2 plays did we have poor tackling and they were late in the game.

[milkman]

Rain or not ... home field crowd or not ... Monday night or not ... there's little doubt that, last year, we would have lost that game ...

We're an improved team ... now let's kick some Brown ass ...

FAX

I'm not sure you thought that through.

[FAX]

I'm not sure you thought that through.

Of course I didn't ... I never do. But that's hardly the point ...

You don't think we would have lost last year? I think we proved that, not only could we, we did ... or, is it that you don't think we've improved?

FAX

[milkman]

Of course I didn't ... I never do. But that's hardly the point ...

You don't think we would have lost last year? I think we proved that, not only could we, we did ... or, is it that you don't think we've improved?

FAX

That's not at all what I was getting at.

If it's a brown ass, I'm staying away from that shit.

[FAX]

That's not at all what I was getting at.

If it's a brown ass, I'm staying away from that shit.

Oh ... ROFL ... oops ...

FAX

[keg in kc]

Of course I didn't ... I never do. But that's hardly the point ...

You don't think we would have lost last year? I think we proved that, not only could we, we did ... or, is it that you don't think we've improved?

FAXI think the team won a game Monday that they would have lost last year, under exactly the same conditions. They might well have been blown out under the same conditions in 2009. I think it was a combination of coaching, experience in the 3-4 and the new draft picks (hard to believe rookies impacting their very first game, but they did). There were obviously other factors involved in the win, weather and crowd and SD missing players, but the 2009 team doesn't win, even with all that.

[Hammock Parties]

GoChiefs would have us all believe that if the weather was good SD would have shut down Charles. Just like they shut him down when the field wasn't bad yet. Oh, wait....

I guess his jock-dropping, 56 yd TD run was because of the weather too? Even though it had only been raining about 5 minutes and not even that hard.

charles is about the most legit player on the team....and yet they wont give him the ball? beginning to think haley is ignorant or prejudiced for his former players (thomas jones) - see mike brown

[keg in kc]

charles is about the most legit player on the team....and yet they wont give him the ball? Yeah, it's not like he had a quarter of the team's touches.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

I don't know why the rain is an argument to begin with.

Rivers threw for just under 300 yards. The rain didn't exactly slow him down.

The Chargers really didn't have a lot of problems moving the ball.

And yet we won. I think we're cultivating and showing some good ol' fashioned football heart. FWIW...

[petegz28]

charles is about the most legit player on the team....and yet they wont give him the ball? beginning to think haley is ignorant or prejudiced for his former players (thomas jones) - see mike brown

Does Charles fumble? Yes
Was it raining? Yes
Did we have a 2 TD lead? Yes


So STFU

[B_Ambuehl]

Chiefs were pathetic in every category except rushing defense and special teams.

Gave up nearly 300 yards passing

Had less than 200 yards of offense

Only 1-11 3rd down conversions

Had a 14 point lead in the 2nd half against a team with 2 outmatched tackles and still couldn't get any pressure on the QB.

Gotta take the Browns by 10+ in this one.

[petegz28]

Chiefs were pathetic in every category except rushing defense and special teams.

Gave up nearly 300 yards passing

Had less than 200 yards of offense

Only 1-11 3rd down conversions

Had a 14 point lead in the 2nd half against a team with 2 outmatched tackles and still couldn't get any pressure on the QB.

Gotta take the Browns by 10+ in this one.


Yea, cause Cleveland=San Diego

[dj56dt58]

why the fuck does everyone bring up the weather? 1, it was an equal fucking playing field and 2, we were kicking their asses before the rain. stfu

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

why the fuck does everyone bring up the weather? 1, it was an equal fucking playing field and 2, we were kicking their asses before the rain. stfu

C'mon man, it's about "nuance".

:facepalm:

[Brock]

Gotta take the Browns by 10+ in this one.

That's pretty stupid.

[Wallcrawler]

Can Chiefs Win Without Wet ‘N Wild? (http://kan.scout.com/2/1003616.html)

Does Dexter McCluster’s electrifying touchdown return take place if San Diego fullback Mike Tolbert isn’t sliding all over the wet Arrowhead turf in a vain attempt to plant his right foot and square up for a tackle?

Yes, McCluster can cut with the best of them, but Tolbert looked like he was sliding into home plate. On a dry field, maybe he trips up McCluster, or slows him down just enough to let someone else make the tackle.



On a dry field, McCluster cuts so hard he rips the soles off yet another pair of shoes, and Tolbert shreds his ACL trying to tackle him.

The wet field saved the shoes Dex was wearing, and the season of Mike Tolbert.

[lcarus]

Another thing that was awesome about our special teams...we absolutely shut down Sproles. A guy who is electrifying all the time, and was probably salivating at the opportunity to play in his home area, yet we bottled him up good. Our special teams was just brilliant in game 1.

[beach tribe]

Its easy to allow 300 yards passing when the other team is behind, and you are 1-13 on third down. i forget what the TOP was, but it was ridiculous.

[beach tribe]

I also believe that the Weis-Haley game plan changes dramatically under different conditions, and circumstances.
All this maybe, if, coulda, woulda, stuff is pointless.
Let's kick Cleveland's ass so more drafturbators can wear their Chiefs stuff like the rest of us, and not be ashamed.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

I also believe that the Weis-Haley game plan changes dramatically under different conditions, and circumstances.
All this maybe, if, coulda, woulda, stuff is pointless.
Let's kick Cleveland's ass so more drafturbators can wear their Chiefs stuff like the rest of us, and not be ashamed.

You were doing well until you went full-Hootie.:p

[Rasputin]

Does Charles fumble? Yes
Was it raining? Yes
Did we have a 2 TD lead? Yes


So STFU

Does Charles rip off 50 yd TD runs at any moment in a game? Yes

Did it matter it was raining when he ripped off his 56 yard TD? NO

I think Charles could have gotten another 60+ yards in the game & another TD. If he fumbles BFD, Charles gives us more opportunities to put points on the score board.

[Hammock Parties]

why the fuck does everyone bring up the weather? 1, it was an equal fucking playing field and 2, we were kicking their asses before the rain. stfu

actually, SD was dominating. As soon as the rain started, their offense stopped.

Before, we were outgained about 120-20.

[Marcellus]

actually, SD was dominating. As soon as the rain started, their offense stopped.

Before, we were outgained about 120-20.

So what you are saying is SD is a team who isn't very diverse and can't react to challenge.

Also, in your stats you are talking about 2 whole drives where the defense didn't bother getting a body on Gates.

Did the rain make Gates disappear?

I will say it again, shit sandwich.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Can Chiefs Win Without Wet ‘N Wild?

Yes motherfucker; yes we CAN.

:fire:

[-King-]

Yes motherfucker; yes we CAN.

:fire:

Actually we can't. What you didn't notice is that during commercial breaks, the chiefs staff were pouring buckets of water on the field, thus giving us the advantage.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Actually we can't. What you didn't notice is that during commercial breaks, the chiefs staff were pouring buckets of water on the field, thus giving us the advantage.

LMAO