Chiefs are underdog once again at Arrowhead

[Nzoner]

At least for now....link (http://www.scoresandodds.com/casinogrid.html?sort=rot)

[DonTellMeShowMe]

I cant see it, but isnt the line only like 2.5?

[petegz28]

I cant see it, but isnt the line only like 2.5?

9'ers by 4

[Skyy God]

Good motivational material...

[Three7s]

We're going to keep being underdogs until we finally get some offense. Probably won't happen.

[Sofa King]

We should be the underdogs...

[Bane]

I cant see it, but isnt the line only like 2.5?

Joe says ready your breakfast and eat hardy children.For that night you dine in HELL!!!!:fire::fire::fire:

[beach tribe]

Awesome. This is a good thing.

[Hammock Parties]

This should be excellent motivation. Haley should pound this into their heads.

[The Bad Guy]

That's a huge joke line.

[DonTellMeShowMe]

Joe says ready your breakfast and eat hardy children.For that night you dine in HELL!!!!:fire::fire::fire:

that stings a bit


thanks again for this man:

http://imgs.sfgate.com/c/pictures/2009/01/31/sp-49ers31_ph_0499738098.jpg

[Bowser]

Awesome. This is a good thing.It's awesome only if Cassel keeps playing like he did in the second half vs. the Browns.

[Frazod]

Good motivational material...

Well, that and a dozen articles denouncing us as frauds.

[Stinger]

Well, that and a dozen articles denouncing us as frauds.

Can we link some threads from here over the last few days as well............... :D

[Bane]

that stings a bit


thanks again for this man:

http://imgs.sfgate.com/c/pictures/2009/01/31/sp-49ers31_ph_0499738098.jpg

Romeo says,hey,I got this!:thumb:

[Priest31kc]

It's awesome only if Cassel keeps playing like he did in the second half vs. the Browns.

And we give Charles the ball atleast 20 times, and get McCluster involved in the offense. Our 2 most explosive playmakers have done nothing (besides JC's 56 yd TD run of course).

[talastan]

It's awesome only if Cassel keeps playing like he did in the second half vs. the Browns.

If he shows steady improvement with each game I'll be happy. However if he lays an egg, by which I mean doesn't get the offense into the endzone again, then we'll be looking at a long game. Defense can score only so many times.

[BigChiefFan]

that stings a bit


thanks again for this man:

http://imgs.sfgate.com/c/pictures/2009/01/31/sp-49ers31_ph_0499738098.jpg

LMAO Jimmy Raye, one of the original stooges. Stooges

[talastan]

And we give Charles the ball atleast 20 times, and get McCluster involved in the offense. Our 2 most explosive playmakers have done nothing (besides JC's 56 yd TD run of course).

I agree, I will say that however Moeaki has shown some great skills over these last two games. Hope he can keep it up so we can have Tony, Dex, Charles, Bowe and Chambers all on the field at the same time. Cassel might just have someone to throw to at that point. Provided he can get the ball past 10 yds.

[OnTheWarpath15]

I don't get why this is a big shock, or insult.

To the betting public outside of KC, we're a team that has won a game with less than 200 yards total offense, and won a game without an offensive TD. The offense has two possessions total in two games in which they drove into the red zone- both resulting in a FG.

The betting public isn't dumb enough to wager real money on a team that can't move the ball offensively, and depends on DTD's and kick returns for scoring.

Would any of you put $100 of your own money on this team at this point?

[Nzoner]

I don't get why this is a big shock, or insult.

To the betting public outside of KC, we're a team that has won a game with less than 200 yards total offense, and won a game without an offensive TD. The offense has two possessions total in two games in which they drove into the red zone- both resulting in a FG.

The betting public isn't dumb enough to wager real money on a team that can't move the ball offensively, and depends on DTD's and kick returns for scoring.

Would any of you put $100 of your own money on this team at this point?

I didn't take it as shock or an insult,but I sure as hell hope Haley and the team does.

[lcarus]

I don't get why this is a big shock, or insult.

To the betting public outside of KC, we're a team that has won a game with less than 200 yards total offense, and won a game without an offensive TD. The offense has two possessions total in two games in which they drove into the red zone- both resulting in a FG.

The betting public isn't dumb enough to wager real money on a team that can't move the ball offensively, and depends on DTD's and kick returns for scoring.

Would any of you put $100 of your own money on this team at this point?

Hell no, and I see your point. But at least with the way our defense and special teams has played to this point I feel like we have a chance in every game. You never know, maybe the offense can get to a point where they can score a TD per game or something. Wait...nah. :huh:

[RippedmyFlesh]

I don't get why this is a big shock, or insult.

To the betting public outside of KC, we're a team that has won a game with less than 200 yards total offense, and won a game without an offensive TD. The offense has two possessions total in two games in which they drove into the red zone- both resulting in a FG.

The betting public isn't dumb enough to wager real money on a team that can't move the ball offensively, and depends on DTD's and kick returns for scoring.

Would any of you put $100 of your own money on this team at this point?
And lines are made to even the action.
It's not sf will win by...It's 1/2 of the people will bet this and 1/2 this way is their ideal line.

[Chiefnj2]

I don't get why this is a big shock, or insult.

To the betting public outside of KC, we're a team that has won a game with less than 200 yards total offense, and won a game without an offensive TD. The offense has two possessions total in two games in which they drove into the red zone- both resulting in a FG.

The betting public isn't dumb enough to wager real money on a team that can't move the ball offensively, and depends on DTD's and kick returns for scoring.

Would any of you put $100 of your own money on this team at this point?

To the betting public, San Fran is a bad road team.

[FAX]

Joe says ready your breakfast and eat hardy children. ...

Can we eat Nancy Drew instead?

FAX

[stevieray]

Would any of you put $100 of your own money on this team at this point? they've won three in a row

one was the first Chief victory at Invesco in how many years?

one was the first home opener won in how many years?

first time we've beat cleveland in how many years?

two of the three were road games.

ya, I'd put money on em...

[philfree]

[QUOTE=OnTheWarpath58;7027511]

one was the first Chief victory at Invesco in how many years?

one was the first home opener won in how many years?

first time we've beat cleveland in how many years?

two fthe three were road games.

ya, I'd put money on em...

Since we are a homedog and 2-0 versus 0-2 on a short week I think I would too.


PhilFree:arrow:

[OnTheWarpath15]

To the betting public, San Fran is a bad road team.

A bad road team?

They've played ONE game on the road.

[OnTheWarpath15]

they've won three in a row

one was the first Chief victory at Invesco in how many years?

one was the first home opener won in how many years?

first time we've beat cleveland in how many years?

two of the three were road games.

ya, I'd put money on em...

Good luck.

I love action, but there's no way I put $100 on this team right now.

[Nzoner]

A bad road team?

They've played ONE REALLY BAD game on the road.

FYP ;)

[DonTellMeShowMe]

FYP ;)

last year they hardly won on the road

its a shame

[OnTheWarpath15]

FYP ;)

No doubt about that.

But you know as well as I do, that you don't base the rest of the season on Week 1.

Hell, one of the Patriots SB seasons they got waxed by Buffalo 30-something to nothing Week 1.

[Chiefnj2]

A bad road team?

They've played ONE game on the road.

Look at last year as well. I think they beat the Rams on the road, and that was it.

[OnTheWarpath15]

FWIW, I wouldn't put $100 of my own money on the Niners, either.

I don't think the first two weeks have told me enough to throw money at either team.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Look at last year as well. I think they beat the Rams on the road, and that was it.

LMAO

So, a different roster, with different opponents in a different season is going to affect your betting?

Vegas must love you.

[The Bad Guy]

LMAO

So, a different roster, with different opponents in a different season is going to affect your betting?

Vegas must love you.

When the players are basically the same, it's foolish not to look at history.

[Chiefnj2]

LMAO

So, a different roster, with different opponents in a different season is going to affect your betting?

Vegas must love you.

You think everyone starts with a perfectly clean slate? Is that how you judge Matt Cassel, or any other player, or does past performance come into play?

[Hug it Out Dan]

This should be excellent motivation. Haley should pound this into their heads.

i doubt haley says anything to the players about this.

[Wa9erfan]

Look at last year as well. I think they beat the Rams on the road, and that was it.

They manhandled the Cardinals in their house as well. We were 2-6 though on the road. Close losses in Indy, Minn, Hou, Sea. A bad loss in Philly and GB.
So, I would say it's a deceptive record given our opponents lst year. This should be a real huge opportunity to get the road win this week.

[Nzoner]

No doubt about that.

But you know as well as I do, that you don't base the rest of the season on Week 1.

Hell, one of the Patriots SB seasons they got waxed by Buffalo 30-something to nothing Week 1.

Correct,I've been watching and wagering too long to ever make that mistake,hell,I was the only one in the CP game who took the Niners Monday by the point spread and moneyline and damn near hit both.

I look at this game and see a dejected 49er's team on a short week traveling half across the country and playing an early game in a stadium that should be packed with rabid fans.I also see a team that went on the road week 1 to a division opponent and got embarrassed by a team with a worse running game than KC and dare I say a worse defense that held them to 6 points.

That said I also see a team with an improving QB and a stud RB who can make a D cooridinator have some sleepless nights knowing that if he stacks the line to stop the stud RB the improving QB has some serious weapons he can beat you with deep.

So what have I learned?

Flip a focking coin and hope you win :D

[CupidStunt]

2-0 ATS and they'll cover again. Betting is perception. If the Chiefs had won by the same scores but by scoring with passing TDs, it'd be KC -3.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Well, that and a dozen articles denouncing us as frauds.

This. I like it when we're outside of the "yeah, they're REALLY improving and GREAT"-zone in the eyes of the media and Vegas.

[Valiant]

Seems smart.

9ers have great run d. Forces us to use cassel and make plays in passing.

Their passing offense is slighty better then ours and then there is gore.

Positives. Our d and hyped crowd.

I see us losing 24-19. 1def/sp tds. Rest fieldgoals. Cassel 14 yds 2ints.

Hope I am wrong though. Would rather see 100yards tj 1td. Jc 155yrds 2tds and control the clock.

[OnTheWarpath15]

When the players are basically the same, it's foolish not to look at history.

Basically?

Like two rookie OL that look much better than the guys they replaced?

A full year of Crabtree?

Another season/offseason in a relatively new system?

I'll ask again, would you put $100 of your own money on the Chiefs to cover this week?

['Hamas' Jenkins]

If I'm betting the Chiefs, I'm betting the money line.

[-King-]

LMAO

So, a different roster, with different opponents in a different season is going to affect your betting?

Vegas must love you.

That doesn't stop you guys from using 2009 run defense stats to prove how shitty our run D will be this year... ;)

[OnTheWarpath15]

That doesn't stop you guys from using 2009 run defense stats to prove how shitty our run D will be this year... ;)

Considering we didn't make a change on the Front 7, and we play 9 games (IIRC) against teams we played last year...

[-King-]

Considering we didn't make a change on the Front 7, and we play 9 games (IIRC) against teams we played last year...

So do the 49ers.

[RockChalk]

If I'm betting the Chiefs, I'm betting the money line.

Did just that against Cleveland. Not a bad haul for a $100 bet

[Iowanian]

I don't see any reason for a shock.

The Chiefs offense has been dismal with the exception of 2-3 big plays and the niners have a stout offensive line, great Running game, and very solid front 7.

Our shitty passing game is going to have to block their front 7 and blitzes and beat their sub-par secondary.

I'll bet the Chiefs at home +4 but this game makes me nervous.

[HemiEd]

They manhandled the Cardinals in their house as well. We were 2-6 though on the road. Close losses in Indy, Minn, Hou, Sea. A bad loss in Philly and GB.
So, I would say it's a deceptive record given our opponents lst year. This should be a real huge opportunity to get the road win this week.

Welcome to the Planet.

[The Bad Guy]

Basically?

Like two rookie OL that look much better than the guys they replaced?

A full year of Crabtree?

Another season/offseason in a relatively new system?

I'll ask again, would you put $100 of your own money on the Chiefs to cover this week?

I'd put 100 of my own dollars absolutely.

The 49ers offensive line lost their center. Baas isn't close to Heitman. Davis doesn't look great and got his ass whopped on the road in Week 1. Iupati looks good. They don't have Chilo Rachel, their best offensive lineman.

Crabtree has 3 catches this year.

It's basically the same team when you factor in the 2 lineman they lost.

[The Bad Guy]

Basically?

Like two rookie OL that look much better than the guys they replaced?

A full year of Crabtree?

Another season/offseason in a relatively new system?

I'll ask again, would you put $100 of your own money on the Chiefs to cover this week?

I'd put 100 of my own dollars absolutely.

The 49ers offensive line lost their center. Baas isn't close to Heitman. Davis doesn't look great and got his ass whopped on the road in Week 1. Iupati looks good. They don't have Chilo Rachel, their best offensive lineman.

Crabtree has 3 catches this year.

It's basically the same team when you factor in the 2 lineman they lost.

[DonTellMeShowMe]

I'd put 100 of my own dollars absolutely.

The 49ers offensive line lost their center. Baas isn't close to Heitman. Davis doesn't look great and got his ass whopped on the road in Week 1. Iupati looks good. They don't have Chilo Rachel, their best offensive lineman.

Crabtree has 3 catches this year.

It's basically the same team when you factor in the 2 lineman they lost.

fail

Baas: http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/playerbreakingnews.asp?sport=NFL&id=3178&line=182898&spln=1

Davis:
http://blogs.sacbee.com/49ers/archives/2010/09/bowman-expectin.html

Singletary continued to praise the offensive line's performance from Monday. He was particularly effusive about rookie right tackle Anthony Davis, who not only shut down Saints defensive end Alex Brown but also threw his weight around at the end of plays. That type of attitude - "nastiness" in NFL-speak - has been notably absent from 49ers offensive linemen in recent seasons.

"That's what I saw when we were looking at drafting him," Singletary said of Davis. "That's the thing that jumped out the most was his nastiness. That's the thing I really like about him."



Read more: http://blogs.sacbee.com/49ers/archives/2010/09/bowman-expectin.html#ixzz10IJ5eoc8

[beer bacon]

Basically?

Like two rookie OL that look much better than the guys they replaced?

A full year of Crabtree?

Another season/offseason in a relatively new system?

I'll ask again, would you put $100 of your own money on the Chiefs to cover this week?

Yeah, the 49ers have given up 28 ppg so far this year. The defense was much better last season. Take the Chiefs.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

2-0 start, Arrowhead rockin':

Chiefs all day.

[boogblaster]

arrowhead being the 12th .. id take the Chiefs ...

[The Bad Guy]

fail

Baas: http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/playerbreakingnews.asp?sport=NFL&id=3178&line=182898&spln=1

Davis:
http://blogs.sacbee.com/49ers/archives/2010/09/bowman-expectin.html

Find a better source than your own Herman Edwards please.

Baas isn't Heitman. Not even close.

Davis got his ass kicked in Seattle like I said.

[Marcellus]

Chiefs have some ridiculous record as a home dog against the NFC don't they?

[Nzoner]

I don't see any reason for a shock.

The Chiefs offense has been dismal with the exception of 2-3 big plays and the niners have a stout offensive line, great Running game, and very solid front 7.

Our shitty passing game is going to have to block their front 7 and blitzes and beat their sub-par secondary.

I'll bet the Chiefs at home +4 but this game makes me nervous.

Sorry if I'm being dense but where are you getting +4?

[Tombstone RJ]

9ers are going to be the toughest test yet for kc. Sandy Eggo should have won, but they shot themselves in the foot too much. Cleveland is not a real good team but congrats on beating them anyway.

9ers to cover all day long...

[Hammock Parties]

Michael Crabtree is actually Dwayne Bowe caught in a time warp from last season.

[Nzoner]

9ers are going to be the toughest test yet for kc. Sandy Eggo should have won, but they shot themselves in the foot too much. Cleveland is not a real good team but congrats on beating them anyway.

9ers to cover all day long...

Fockin' Denver fans and their well thought out posts :rolleyes:

[L.A. Chieffan]

Damn, 91% of the money is on the Lions +11. Vegas must know something....Oh yeah, Gunther Cunningham.

[The Bad Guy]

9ers are going to be the toughest test yet for kc. Sandy Eggo should have won, but they shot themselves in the foot too much. Cleveland is not a real good team but congrats on beating them anyway.

9ers to cover all day long...

Again, another hilarious defense of San Diego.

"They shot themselves in the foot too much"

The Chargers are a far superior team to the 49ers.

I'll await the rain excuse again.

[Frazod]

Somebody needs to post a clip of Stillwell from A League of Their Own saying "YOU'RE GONNA LOSE!"

[Bowser]

Good luck.

I love action, but there's no way I put $100 on this team right now.

Advance forecasts are calling for showers. Rain may be the great equalizer for this team this year......

[Halfcan]

Vernon davis said they would win-I dont think they will. 69ers havnt won at arrowhead since 82?

[-King-]

Damn, 91% of the money is on the Lions +11. Vegas must know something....Oh yeah, Gunther Cunningham.

I want to bet on that game. There's no way the Lions don't cover....but then again...

[alanm]

Correct,I've been watching and wagering too long to ever make that mistake,hell,I was the only one in the CP game who took the Niners Monday by the point spread and moneyline and damn near hit both.

I look at this game and see a dejected 49er's team on a short week traveling half across the country and playing an early game in a stadium that should be packed with rabid fans.I also see a team that went on the road week 1 to a division opponent and got embarrassed by a team with a worse running game than KC and dare I say a worse defense that held them to 6 points.

That said I also see a team with an improving QB and a stud RB who can make a D cooridinator have some sleepless nights knowing that if he stacks the line to stop the stud RB the improving QB has some serious weapons he can beat you with deep.

So what have I learned?

Flip a focking coin and hope you win :DI wouldn't throw a nickle at this game. :)

[the Talking Can]

no way in hell i'd bet on this game

I mean, eventually Cassel is going to have a game with a 70 QB rating...

[Chiefnj2]

Damn, 91% of the money is on the Lions +11. Vegas must know something....Oh yeah, Gunther Cunningham.

Lots of games where the $ is disproportionate.

[Great Expectations]

Lots of games where the $ is disproportionate.

Do you have a link to see where the money is going?

[Chiefnj2]

Do you have a link to see where the money is going?

Look up.

[Pioli Zombie]

Watch Charles blow his knee out on carry 28 on sunday
"THAT FUCKIN HALEY LET CHARLES CARRY THE BALL TOO MUCH!!"- CP

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Watch Charles blow his knee out on carry 28 on sunday
"THAT FUCKIN HALEY LET CHARLES CARRY THE BALL TOO MUCH!!"- CP

Eh, Charles is like an action figure; a limb pops out, you just pop it back it and roll.

[Bob Dole]

9ers are going to be the toughest test yet for kc. Sandy Eggo should have won, but they shot themselves in the foot too much. Cleveland is not a real good team but congrats on beating them anyway.

9ers to cover all day long...

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[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Oops.
Posted via Mobile Device

ROFL

[The Bad Guy]

Find a better source than your own Herman Edwards please.

Baas isn't Heitman. Not even close.

Davis got his ass kicked in Seattle like I said.

As I said, Anthony Davis sucks.

[L.A. Chieffan]

Lots of games where the $ is disproportionate.

Vegas wouldnt keep that line so high for nothing.

Gunther for the parlay buster win!