Late night bullshit: our roster, by era.

[Direckshun]

You can dispute where they're placed... I'm just interested in observing how each era has contributed to our current team.

Franchise players

Branden Albert -- Herm
Dwayne Bowe -- Herm
Jamaal Charles -- Herm
Brandon Flowers -- Herm
Tamba Hali -- Herm
Derrick Johnson -- Vermeil
Brian Waters -- Gunther

Key Players

Eric Berry -- Haley
Brandon Carr -- Herm
Matt Cassel -- Haley
Dustin Colquitt -- Vermeil
Glenn Dorsey -- Herm
Thomas Jones -- Haley
Kendrick Lewis -- Haley
Ryan Lilja -- Haley
Tony Moeaki -- Haley
Barry Richardson -- Herm
Shaun Smith -- Haley
Ryan Succop -- Haley
Mike Vrabel -- Haley
Casey Wiegmann -- Vermeil
Demorrio Williams -- Herm

Average/Role Players

Javier Arenas -- Haley
Jon Asamoah -- Haley
Jovan Belcher -- Haley
Chris Chambers -- Haley
Mike Cox -- Herm
Brodie Croyle -- Herm
Ron Edwards -- Herm
Wallace Gilberry -- Herm
Tyson Jackson -- Haley
Dexter McCluster -- Haley
Jon McGraw -- Herm
Ryan O'Callaghan -- Haley
Jake O'Connell -- Haley
Leonard Pope -- Haley
Andy Studebaker -- Haley
Verran Tucker -- Haley

Bit players/special teamers

Charlie Anderson -- Haley
Jackie Bates -- Haley
Jackie Battle -- Herm
Tim Castille -- Haley
Terrance Copper -- Haley
Travis Daniels -- Herm
Thomas Gafford -- Herm
Cory Greenwood -- Haley
Reshard Langford -- Haley
Corey Mays -- Haley
Rudy Niswanger -- Herm
Ricky Price -- Haley
Mike Richardson -- Haley
Anthony Toribio -- Haley
Donald Washington -- Haley

Discuss.

[pkane]

Wiegmann is a Haley- this time around. Pretty cool to look at the list though.

[Direckshun]

Wiegmann is a Haley- this time around. Pretty cool to look at the list though.

I'd like to think we just rented him out for a couple years.

[Hammock Parties]

Only one potential Pro Bowler from the Haley era - Berry.

[Direckshun]

Only one potential Pro Bowler from the Haley era - Berry.

Moeaki's arrow is pointing up.

[nstygma]

Only one potential Pro Bowler from the Haley era - Berry.since you said potential, don't you think moeaki has some?
and, how long did it take the franchise-level players to ascend to that status?
oh, and waters was from the Gunther era, right?

[pkane]

Only one potential Pro Bowler from the Haley era - Berry.

Cassel

[Direckshun]

oh, and waters was from the Gunther era, right?

Hmmm... was he?

I need confirmation, and I'll change the OP.

[Hammock Parties]

I don't see Moeaki as a Pro Bowl tight end in the Vernon Davis mold. I see him as a solid tight end and long term starter, but not a big play guy that has to be accounted for.

Cassel won't make the Pro Bowl this year and I don't see him putting up the kind of numbers in the future that will lead to Pro Bowls. He can't play the NFC West every year.

[pkane]

It would be hard to keep him out.

[nstygma]

It would be hard to keep him out.if he even has the potential in him, i think it'd be 2 years before he improves enough

[Buck]

How is Cassel not considered a Franchise player?

[pkane]

I wouldn't be shocked if he made it this year at all.

[nstygma]

Hmmm... was he?

I need confirmation, and I'll change the OP.he was signed undrafted in 2000 while gun was still coach

[Direckshun]

I wouldn't be shocked if he made it this year at all.

If he makes it this year, it's because

Brady
Manning
Rivers
Roethlisberger
Flacco

Decided not to go.

Even then, Sanchez, Garrard or Orton have just as much of a shot, if not more of a shot.

[Direckshun]

he was signed undrafted in 2000 while gun was still coach

Changed.

[nstygma]

i think berry, moeaki, carr, arenas, and mccluster will rise one level by mid season next year

[Slainte]

Lilja was picked up as an UFA by Vermeil, IIRC...

[pkane]

If he makes it this year, it's because

Brady
Manning
Rivers
Roethlisberger
Flacco

Decided not to go.

Even then, Sanchez, Garrard or Orton have just as much of a shot, if not more of a shot.

Brady, Manning, Rivers will probably get the nod at QB. Cassel is clearly ahead of Sanchez, Garrard, and Orton in Pro Bowl status this year. If the Chiefs lose it the playoffs and say Brady goes to the Super Bowl, I could see Cassel getting the invite then.

[Sofa King]

Vermeil sucks at drafting... that's what i see....

[The Bad Guy]

The big thing for me is the coaching right now.

No way does Derrick Johnson ascend like this under the previous Vermeil or Herm regimes. Like-wise for Charles, Bowe and Dorsey.

[beach tribe]

Only one potential Pro Bowler from the Haley era - Berry.

Before Haley arrived we had 0 potential probowlers besides waters.

Cassel is a potential probowler if he keeps playing like he is. And the rest are first second year players.
Any potential probowlers that you think we have now, would not have been considered to be so a year ago, and any player on that list could emerge the way the they have in the next season or three.

[beach tribe]

I don't see Moeaki as a Pro Bowl tight end. .

I could easily see Moeaki getting the nod a cpl times.

Vernon didn't have more than 52 catches or 4 Tds until his fourth season, and only 20 in his rookie year.

Mo's got great hands, and is faster than you would think. Dude is an athlete, and could easily become a top 5 TE in the NFL.

[Jenson71]

Only one potential Pro Bowler from the Haley era - Berry.

We given Haley more than enough chances to right this ship. It's time we cut our ties with this guy.