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Rain Man
12-09-2010, 04:59 PM
Amnorix's article about the 2010 redraft had an item at the bottom about the Pro Football Researchers Association and their "Hall of Very Good" for good players who probably won't get consideration for the Hall of Fame.

For those of you who are interested, three Chiefs are in the Hall of Very Good: Ed Budde (Class of 2010), Otis Taylor (Class of 2006), and Johnny Robinson (in the presumably inaugural class of 2003, even though it says it started in 2002).

Here you go: http://www.profootballresearchers.org/HOVG.htm

HALL OF VERY GOOD COMMITTEE
THURSDAY, DECEMBER 9, 2010
Begun in 2002, the Hall of Very Good seeks to honor outstanding players and coaches who are not in the Hall of Fame and are not likely to ever make it. The PFRA does not promote any of the electees for the Hall of Fame nor does it view the Hall of Very Good as a springboard for the Hall of Fame. We simply recognize that there are many players and coaches who had great careers who deserve to be recognized.



Class of 2010
Robert Brazile
Position: Linebacker
Teams: Houston Oilers 1975-1984
Bio: Utilized great speed as dangerous outside linebacker. AP Defensive Rookie of the Year. Played in Pro Bowl in each of his first 7 seasons and never missed a game in 10-year career. Leading force on defense that propelled Oilers to two straight AFC title games.

Ed Budde
Position: Guard
Teams: Kansas City Chiefs 1963-1976
Bio: Played in two Super Bowls including win over Vikings in SB IV. Selected to five AFL All-Star games and two Pro Bowls. Chiefs led league in rushing yards three times and yards per carry twice during his career. Played in every game from 1963 to 1973.

Don Coryell
Position: Head Coach
Teams: St. Louis Cardinals 1972-1977, San Diego Chargers 1978-1986
Bio: Innovator who introduced pass-heavy offense known as Air Coryell. Cardinals finished in 1st place in ’74 and ’75 after 26-year drought. Guided Chargers to first division titles in 14 years in ’79, ’80 and ’81. San Diego led NFL in passing yards six straight seasons.

Ox Emerson
Position: Guard, Center, Linebacker
Teams: Portsmouth Spartans 1931-1933, Detroit Lions 1934-1937, Brooklyn Dodgers 1938
Bio: Two-way mainstay on Lions 1935 NFL champs. His blocking was big reason Detroit had NFL’s best ground game during his career. All-pro six straight years. Defensive standout in 1934 when Lions allowed only 59 points in 13 games and registered 7 straight shutouts.

Chuck Foreman
Position: Running Back
Teams: Minnesota Vikings 1973-1979, New England Patriots 1980
Bio: Consensus Rookie of the Year in 1973. Earned all-NFC honors in 1974, 1975 and 1976. NFC Player of the Year in ‘75 and NFC Offensive Player of the Year in ’76. Vikings made it to playoffs six times and to three Super Bowls in his seven years with team.

Bob Gain
Position: Tackle, Middle Guard, End
Teams: Cleveland Browns 1952, 1954-1964
Bio: Standout defender at tackle, end and middle guard. Cleveland led NFL in many defensive categories in his 12 years. Earned five Pro Bowl berths and spot on many all-pro teams. Browns won two thirds of their games and three championships during his career.

Riley Matheson
Position: Guard, Linebacker
Teams: Cleveland Rams 1939-1942, Detroit Lions 1943, Cleveland Rams 1944-1945, Los Angeles Rams 1946-1947, San Francisco 49ers 1948
Bio: Earned all-pro honors at both guard and linebacker in two leagues. His outstanding line play was one of keys to Rams’ 1945 NFL championship. Consensus all-pro 4 straight seasons in 1944-47. Joined the AAFC 49ers in 1948 and helped them to 12-2 record.

Jimmy Patton
Position: Defensive Back
Teams: New York Giants 1955-1966
Bio: Important cog on Giant defenses that led team to six conference titles. Had 52 career interceptions and led NFL with 11 in ’58. Consensus first team all-pro in five consecutive seasons including unanimous three times. Also named to Pro Bowl in those five seasons.

Drew Pearson
Position: Wide Receiver
Teams: Dallas Cowboys 1973-1983
Bio: Led the NFL in receiving yards in 1977. Cowboys played in three Super Bowls and made playoffs 10 times in his 11 seasons. Missed only 3 games in career that was cut short by serious car accident. Named to three Pro Bowls and was consensus 1st team all-pro twice.

Ken Riley
Position: Cornerback
Teams: Cincinnati Bengals 1969-1983
Bio: Nearly 30 years after his last game, still ranks fifth all-time with 65 career interceptions. Returned five of those 65 for touchdowns. Finished second in NFL in INT’s three times in his career with highs of 9 in ’76 and 8 in’83. Missed only eight games in 15 seasons.




Class of 2009
Bruno Banducci
Position: Guard
Teams: Philadelphia Eagles 1944-1945, San Francisco 49ers 1946-1954
Bio: Solid all-around blocker who earned first team all-pro honors twice in AAFC and three times in NFL. Also twice named to combined all-AAFC/NFL. Never played on champion but his teams won two-thirds of their games and finished second eight times. Seven times his team finished first in rushing yards and four times a teammate won rushing title.

Harold Carmichael
Position: Wide Receiver
Teams: Philadelphia Eagles 1971-1983, Dallas Cowboys 1984
Bio: Ranked fifth in career receptions, seventh in receiving yards and seventh in touchdown catches when he retired. Also held record with 127 straight games with a catch. Led NFL in receptions and yards in 1973 when he was first team all-pro. Third in yards in 1978 and fifth in catches in 1974. Unanimous all-NFC in 1978 and 1979.

Blanton Collier
Position: Assistant Coach 1946-53 and 1962, and Head Coach 1963-70
Teams: Cleveland Browns
Bio: Had big impact as all-around assistant as Browns finished first in all eight seasons of his first tenure in Cleveland. Succeeded Paul Brown in 1963 after four playoff-less seasons and guided team to five first-place finishes and 1964 NFL championship. Browns won 69% of their games and never had a losing season in his eight years as head coach.

Boyd Dowler
Position: Wide Receiver
Teams: Green Bay Packers 1959-1969, Washington Redskins 1971
Bio: Leading receiver on Green Bay’s dynasty of the 1960’s who twice was named all-conference. Finished in the top 10 in receptions three times despite playing for a very run-oriented team. Ranked 10th in catches and 12th in receiving yards all-time when he retired. Had huge postseason in 1967 when Packers won Ice Bowl and Super Bowl II.

Claude Humphrey
Position: Defensive End
Teams: Atlanta Falcons 1968-1978, Philadelphia Eagles 1979-1981
Bio: Tall, powerful end who crushed pass pockets and destroyed running plays with great effectiveness. Garnered some first or second team all-pro honors eight times including three seasons where he was a consensus first-teamer. Joined Philadelphia after several serious injuries and helped Eagles to playoffs in each of his last three years.

Ken Kavanaugh
Position: End
Teams: Chicago Bears 1940-1941 and 1945-1950
Bio: Averaged 18.7 yards per catch or better every year he played and led NFL in 1941 at 28.5. Career average of 22.4 is one of best ever. Fifty of his 162 career catches were touchdowns and twice led league in TD receptions. Played in three title games (all Bear victories) and scored TD in all three. Missed three prime seasons to military service.

Verne Lewellen
Position: Halfback
Teams: Green Bay Packers 1924-1927, New York Yankees 1927, Green Bay Packers 1928-1932
Bio: One of best backs of the 1920’s who twice led NFL in TD’s and rushing TD’s. Second team all-pro in 1925 and consensus first-teamer in 1926-29. Few statistics are available from that time but was an outstanding punter in era when advantage in that part of the game frequently meant victory. Packers won three titles in his years in Green Bay.

Walt Sweeney
Position: Guard
Teams: San Diego Chargers 1963-1973, Washington Redskins 1974-1975
Bio: Key component of San Diego’s high-octane offense of the 1960’s. Chargers ranked at top in numerous offensive categories in first part of his career and played in three straight title games, winning once. Named as second team all-league selection three times and first team four times including 1967-69 when he was consensus all-AFL.



Class of 2008
Dick Barwegen
Position: Guard
Teams: New York Yankees 1947, Baltimore Colts 1948-1949, Chicago Bears 1950-1952, Baltimore Colts 1953-1954
Bio: Outstanding guard for four teams in two leagues. Powerful run blocker whose teams were first in rushing yards twice and average gain once. Unanimous all-league choice four straight years. Excellent defender in his early years as two-way player.

Randy Gradishar
Position: Linebacker
Teams: Denver Broncos 1974-1983
Bio: Leader of Denver's Orange Crush defense that won the AFC in 1977. NFL Defensive Player of Year in '78. Never missed a game in 10 seasons. Broncos led NFL in numerous defensive categories in his prime years. 4 TD's and 20 INT's in career.

Bob Hoernschemeyer
Position: Halfback
Teams: Chicago Rockets 1946-1947, Brooklyn Dodgers 1947-1948, Chicago Hornets 1949, Detroit Lions 1950-1955
Bio: Among top rushers in each of his first 8 seasons. Led Detroit in rushing four straight years while Lions were winning two NFL titles. Counting AAFC total, was 4th all-time in rushing when he retired.

Cecil Isbell
Position: Tailback
Teams: Green Bay Packers 1938-1942
Bio: Spectacular passer who led Packers to two Championship Games and one title. Set records for passing yards in 1941 and for completions, TD passes, and yards in '42. Also set marks with 5 TD throws in game and 22 straight games with TD pass.

Buddy Parker
Position: Head Coach
Teams: Chicago Cardinals 1949, Detroit Lions 1951-1956, Pittsburgh Steelers 1957-1964
Bio: Coached Detroit to three title games and two titles, compiling 50-24-2 record. Turned Pittsburgh into contender and ranks 3rd behind Noll and Cowher in wins among Steeler coaches. Also played 9 NFL years including on 1935 Lion title winners.

Spec Sanders
Position: Tailback
Teams: New York Yankees 1946-1948, New York Yanks 1950
Bio: Hard running tailback who established pro records with 1,432 rushing yards and 19 TD's in 1947 when he was AAFC MVP. Led Yankees to two AAFC title games. Set NFL record with 13 interceptions when he switched to defense full time in 1950.

Jim Ray Smith
Position: Guard
Teams: Cleveland Browns 1956-1962, Dallas Cowboys 1963-1964
Bio: One of fastest guards ever who earned all-pro honors in five of the six full seasons he played. Browns led NFL in rushing yards and yards per carry twice each in his years with team. Had memorable game in '59 when he dominated Gene Lipscomb.

Billy Wilson
Position: Wide Receiver
Teams: San Francisco 49ers 1951-1960
Bio: Thrice led NFL in receptions and was in top 7 seven straight years. 4th or better in receiving yards 5 times and also led league in TD catches once. Ranked 2nd all-time to Hutson in receptions and TD catches and 3rd in receiving yards when he retired.



Class of 2007
Frankie Albert
Position: Quarterback
Teams: San Francisco 49ers 1946-1952
Bio: First team all-AAFC/NFL once, second team three times. All-AAFC three times. Tossed 29 TD's in 1948, 27 in '49. Co-MVP in 1948. Lost 4 years to military. Expert bootlegger, ball-handler. 48.2 yard punting average in 1949, 43.0 for career. Great on-the-run punter.

Roger Brown
Position: Defensive Tackle
Teams: Detroit Lions 1960-1966, Los Angeles Rams 1967-1969
Bio: Punishing tackle on great defenses in Detroit and Los Angeles. Starred in 1962 Thanksgiving Day Massacre. Once held all-time record with 3 career safeties. Iron man who never missed a game in 10 year career. 6 Pro Bowls, all-pro twice.

Timmy Brown
Position: Running Back
Teams: Green Bay Packers 1959, Philadelphia Eagles 1960-1967, Baltimore Colts 1968
Bio: Dangerous runner, receiver, and return man. 12,681 all-purpose yards including 4th and 7th best season marks. 64 TD's, 6 on kick returns. Averaged 26.0 on kickoff returns and twice led NFL in yards. Led NFL with 5.4 rushing average in 1965. 3-time Pro Bowler.

Marshall Goldberg
Position: Back
Teams: Chicago Cardinals 1939-1943, 1946-1948
Bio: Part of Cardinals' Dream Backfield. Leader on 1 league and 2 conference champs. Led NFL in interceptions in 1941. Twice led league in kickoff return yards and finished 3rd with 24.2 yard average in '41, 2nd at 26.2 in '42. Missed 2 years in military. All-pro in '47.

Jim Lee Howell
Position: End, Head Coach
Teams: New York Giants 1937-1942, 1946-1947, 1954-1960
Bio: Winning percentage of .648 is best in Giants history of coaches with at least 3 seasons. Led team to 3 conference titles and 1956 championship. Never had a losing record in 7 years. Also won NFL title, 4 conference crowns, and all-pro honors as player.

Glenn Presnell
Position: Back
Teams: Portsmouth Spartans 1931-1933, Detroit Lions 1934-1936
Bio: Outstanding triple threat. Led Ironton Yanks to wins over Giants and Bears in 1930. 1st in scoring, 2nd in passing, 4th in rushing and all-pro in '33. Played on Lions teams that had 7 straight shutouts in '34 and won NFL title in '35. Kicked record 54-yard field goal in '34.

Dick Schafrath
Position: Tackle
Teams: Cleveland Browns 1959-1971
Bio: Helped Browns finish 1st in rushing yards 5 times, yards per carry 6 times including all-time best 5.74 in1963. Known for making multiple blocks on same play. Only missed 2 games in 13 years. All-pro 3 times, 6 Pro Bowls. Team never had losing season in career.

Jake Scott
Position: Defensive Back
Teams: Miami Dolphins 1970-1975, Washington Redskins 1976-1978
Bio: Standout safety on two Super Bowl winners. 49 career interceptions. 2 in SB VII when he was MVP. In NFL Top 10 seven times. Known for playing hurt. Excellent kick returner. 5th in NFL in punt returns in 1970, 3rd in '71, 4th in '73. All-pro 4 times, 5 Pro Bowls.

Ed Sprinkle
Position: Defensive End
Teams: Chicago Bears 1944-1955
Bio: Rugged player on many excellent Bears' teams. One of the first pass rushing defensive ends. Played on Chicago's 1946 champions. Team finished 2nd 7 times in his career. All-pro twice, 2nd team 3 times, 4 Pro Bowls. Nabbed 7 TD passes in spot duty on offense.

Tank Younger
Position: Halfback, Fullback
Teams: Los Angeles Rams 1949-1957, Pittsburgh Steelers 1958
Bio: Mainstay on greatest offense in history. 6.2 yards per rush in 1951, 6.7 in '54, 4.7 for career. Pro Bowler and all-pro mention on both offense and defense. Played in 4 Championship Games. First pro player from historically black college.


See first post for Classes of 2003 through 2006


*Voted into the Professional Football Hall of Fame after induction into the Hall of Very Good.

Rain Man
12-09-2010, 04:59 PM
Class of 2006
Charley Conerly
Position: Quarterback
Teams: New York Giants 1948-1961
Bio: The Giants' quarterback for 14 seasons, he led the team to an NFL championship in 1956 and was chosen Player of the Year in 1959 by both the AP and NEA.

John Hadl
Position: Quarterback
Teams: San Diego Chargers 1962-1972, Los Angeles Rams 1973-1974, Green Bay Packers 1974-1975, Houston Oilers 1976-1977
Bio: Hadl quarterbacked the Chargers from 1962-72. He was All-NFL in 1973 with the Rams, was chosen to six Pro Bowls and AFL All-Star Games. He and Lance Alworth were one of the great pass-catch combinations of all time.

Chuck Howley
Position: Linebacker
Teams: Chicago Bears 1958-1959, Dallas Cowboys 1961-1973
Bio: Still the only player to be named Super Bowl MVP while playing for the losing team, the Cowboys' great linebacker earned all-NFL honors six times and was a consensus choice three times.

Alex Karras
Position: Defensive Tackle
Teams: Detroit Lions 1958-1962, 1964-1970
Bio: Before he became a TV star, Karras was one of the top defensive tackles in football. In 12 seasons with the Lions, he was picked to four Pro Bowls and named all-NFL four times.

Eugene Lipscomb
Position: Defensive Tackle
Teams: Los Angeles Rams 1953-1955, Baltimore Colts 1956-1960, Pittsburgh Steelers 1961-1962
Bio: The Colts' D-line had Marchetti and Donovan, but "Big Daddy" was all-NFL in the title years 1958-59. Only his tragic death kept him from more legends.

Kyle Rote
Position: End, Halfback
Teams: New York Giants 1951-1961
Bio: A great college halfback at SMU, injuries curtailed his pro career as a running back. Rote became the Giants' top receiver during the 1950s grabbing 300 passes.

Dick Stanfel
Position: Guard
Teams: Detroit Lions 1952-1955, Washington Redskins 1956-1958
Bio: In only seven seasons with the Lions and Redskins, Stanfel was all-NFL five times and chosen to five Pro Bowls. He was named to the AII-1950s team by the Hall of Fame electors.

Otis Taylor
Position: Wide Receiver
Teams: Kansas City Chiefs 1965-1975
Bio: Taylor's 46-yard TD reception wrapped up Super Bowl IV for Kansas City. Great combination with Len Dawson. Chosen for one AFL All-Star Game and two Pro Bowls.

Fuzzy Thurston
Position: Guard
Teams: Baltimore Colts 1958, Green Bay Packers 1959-1967
Bio: With Jerry Kramer, Thurston pulled out of the line to lead the "Lombardi Sweep," the key to Green Bay's championship offense. Consensus All-NFL in 1961.

Deacon Dan Towler
Position: Fullback
Teams: Los Angeles Rams 1950-1955
Bio: Led NFL in rushing in 1952 with 894 yards and a 5.7 average gain. Named to four Pro Bowls in only six seasons, all with L.A. Rams. Member of famed "Bull Elephant Backfield."



Class of 2005
Maxie Baughan
Position: Linebacker
Teams: Philadelphia Eagles 1960-1965, Los Angeles Rams 1966-1970, Washington Redskins 1974
Bio: Star linebacker with Eagles from 1960-65, then captained George Allen’s complicated defense with Rams. Three times all-NFL; 9 Pro Bowls. Aggressive and quick, but most valuable for his ability to diagnose opponents’ offenses.

Jim Benton
Position: End
Teams: Cleveland Rams 1938-1942, Chicago Bears 1943, Cleveland Rams 1944-1947
Bio: Great receiver with the Rams from 1938 thru 1947. Led NFL in receiving with 63 catches in 1946. When he retired, his 288 catches ranked second all-time in NFL. Sure hands and good speed, plus an unusually long reach.

Lavie Dilweg
Position: End
Teams: Milwaukee Badgers 1926, Green Bay Packers 1927-1934
Bio: Widely regarded as the best all-around end of the 1920s, he starred for Packers three championship teams of 1929-31. Remarkably steady, he was a reliable receiver and deadly on defense.

Pat Harder
Position: Fullback
Teams: Chicago Cardinals 1946-1950, Detroit Lions 1951-1953
Bio: Fullback for the Cardinals’ “Dream Backfield” that powered the championship 1947 team. Led NFL in scoring three times, 1947-49. Excellent placekicker. Helped Lions win titles in early 1950s with his running and kicking.

Floyd Little*
Position: Running Back
Teams: Denver Broncos 1967-1975
Bio: Extremely popular running star for Denver from 1967-75, he led the AFC in rushing in 1970 and 1971. His career marks included 6,323 rushing yards and 43 touchdowns. Additionally a good receiver and outstanding kick returner.

Tommy Nobis
Position: Linebacker
Teams: Atlanta Falcons 1966-1976
Bio: After a great career at Texas, Nobis was the first pick of the 1966 draft with expansion Atlanta. He gave the Falcons 11 great years until his oft-injured knees gave out. Chosen to 5 Pro Bowls, he was often compared favorably to Dick Butkus.

Pete Retzlaff
Position: Halfback, End
Teams: Philadelphia Eagles 1956-1966
Bio: Sure-handed, a strong blocker and steady, Retzlaff could play flanker or tight end, starring for the Eagles from 1956-66. He tied for NFL lead in most pass receptions in 1958. Caught 452 for 16.4 average and 47 TDs in career. Five Pro Bowls.

Tobin Rote
Position: Quarterback
Teams: Green Bay Packers 1950-1956, Detroit Lions 1957-1959, San Diego Chargers 1963-1964, Denver Broncos 1966
Bio: Winning QB with 1957 NFL Lions champions and with 1963 San Diego AFL champs. After seven years with weak Green Bay teams, his ‘57 trade to Detroit proved his ability to lead when he had the horses. Passed for 18,880 career yards and 148 TDs.

Lou Rymkus
Position: Tackle
Teams: Washington Redskins 1943, Cleveland Browns 1946-1951
Bio: After one season with Washington and two in the service, Lou joined the Browns in the AAFC and stayed through for five championships. Paul Brown said he was the best tackle on the team in each of his six seasons. Famous for playing hurt.

Del Shofner
Position: End
Teams: Los Angeles Rams 1957-1960, New York Giants 1961-1967
Bio: Five-time all-pro, Shofner was first tried as a defensive back with the Rams but quickly switched to wideout where his speed and catching ability made him the NFL’s most feared deep threat. Traded to the Giants, he excelled in combo with Y.A. Tittle.



Class of 2004
Gene Brito
Position: Defensive End
Teams: Washington Redskins 1951-1958, Los Angeles Rams 1959-1960
Bio: Five-time Pro Bowl defensive end. Played in 84 consecutiver games with Washington from 1951 thru 1958, with 1954 spent in Canada. Traded to Rams where he continued to star for two more seasons.

John Brodie
Position: Quarterback
Teams: San Francisco 49ers 1957-1973
Bio: A talented passer for 17 seasons with a San Francisco teams that usually lacked the defense to match his offense. Gained 31,548 yards passing. Took 49ers to playoffs 3 times.

Jack Butler
Position: Defensive Back
Teams: Pittsburgh Steelers 1951-1959
Bio: Steelers coaches always said he could have been an all-pro receiver but was too valuable to move from defense. Intercepted 52 passes in 1951-59 career. Four Pro Bowls.

Chris Hanburger
Position: Linebacker
Teams: Washington Redskins 1965-1978
Bio: Made up for lack of size with quickness and determination to play 14 outstanding seasons at linebacker for the Redskins. Nine Pro Bowls. Named to Hall of Fame Team of the 1960s.

Bob Hayes*
Position: Split End, Wide Receiver
Teams: Dallas Cowboys 1965-1974, San Francisco 49ers 1975
Bio: “World’s Fastest Human” who became great long-distance receiver with Cowboys (1965-75). Caught 371 passes with 71 touchdown receptions over 11-seasons, ten with Dallas. Averaged 20-yards per catch.

Billy Howton
Position: End
Teams: Green Bay Packers 1952-1958, Cleveland Browns 1959, Dallas Cowboys 1960-1963
Bio: Two-time All-NFL, broke several of Don Hutson’s team records with Packers before finishing with Cleveland and Dallas (1952-63). Caught 503 passes for 8,459 yards and 61 TDs.

Jim Marshall
Position: Defensive End
Teams: Cleveland Browns 1960, Minnesota Vikings 1961-1979
Bio: Rugged defensive end; part of famed “Purple People-Eater” Vikings defense that reached four Super Bowls. Holds the NFL record with 282 consecutive games.

Al Nesser
Position: Guard
Teams: Akron Pros 1920-1925, Cleveland Bulldogs 1925, Akron Indians 1926, New York Giants 1926-1928, Cleveland Indians 1931
Bio: An outstanding guard and end for two decades beginning in 1910. One of 6 legendary football-playing brothers with Columbus; starred with Akron’s 1920 and the Giants’ 1927 champs.

Dave Robinson
Position: Linebacker
Teams: Green Bay Packers 1963-1972, Washington Redskins 1973-1974
Bio: Often overlooked among Packers’ stars (1963-72), consistently graded as top team linebacker. Big enough to stop the run; fast enough to defend against passing. Three Pro Bowls.

Duke Slater
Position: Tackle
Teams: Milwaukee Badgers 1922, Rock Island Independents 1922-1925, Chicago Cardinals 1926-1931
Bio: Iowa All-America who became the leading black player of the 1920s; chosen all-pro several times in 10-year career (1922-31) despite playing for weak teams Rock Island and Chicago Cardinals teams.



Class of 2003
Gino Cappelletti
Position: End, Kicker
Teams: Boston Patriots 1960-1970
Bio: Outstanding kicker / receiver for Boston Patriots 1960-70. Ignored by NFL, AFL gave him a second chance. He caught 290 passes. His kicking and receiving accounted for 1130 points, including 155 in 1964.

Carl Eller*
Position: Defensive End
Teams: Minnesota Vikings 1964-1978, Seattle Seahawks 1979
Bio: Five-time All-Pro defensive end with Minnesota 1964-78, Seattle 1979. Played 225 games. Bulwark of famed “Purple People Eater” defense. Strong against run; fine pass rusher. Helped Vikes to 10 NFL/NFC crowns.

Pat Fischer
Position: Defensive Back
Teams: St. Louis Cardinals 1961-1967, Washington Redskins 1968-1977
Bio: Only 5’9” and 170 lbs, Fischer starred for 17 seasons (1961-77) with St. Louis and Washington. He made 56 career interceptions in 213 games and was chosen to three Pro Bowls.

Benny Friedman*
Position: Tailback
Teams: Cleveland Bulldogs 1927, Detroit Wolverines 1928, New York Giants 1929-1931, Brooklyn Dodgers 1932-1934
Bio: Friedman’s fame ranked second only to Grange during the 1920s. Called the best defensive back ever seen, he really wowed them with his running, kicking, and above all with his passing, the greatest of his day.

Gene Hickerson*
Position: Guard
Teams: Cleveland Browns 1958-1960, 1962-1973
Bio: In 15 seasons with the Browns (1958-60, 1962-73), Gene’s blocks cleared the way Jim Brown and Leroy Kelly. His speed, power, durability, and athleticism made him a 6-time Pro Bowl selection.

Jerry Kramer
Position: Guard
Teams: Green Bay Packers 1958-1968
Bio: A 5-time All-NFL choice with Lombardi’s Packers, Kramer’s most famous block came on Starr’s sneak for the victory in the “Ice Bowl.” He endured 22 operations during his career, but 5 championships made it worth it.

Johnny Robinson
Position: Defensive Back
Teams: Dallas Texans 1960-1962, Kansas City Chiefs 1963-1971
Bio: Star safety with Dallas Texans / Kansas City Chiefs 1960-71. Had 57 career interceptions. Began as offensive back, but soon moved to defense. Sure tackler. All-AFL 1965-69, All-AFC 1970. 2 Super Bowls.

Mac Speedie
Position: End
Teams: Cleveland Browns 1946-1952
Bio: Cleveland Browns’ outstanding receiver 1946-52. Led AAFC in receptions 1947-49 and NFL in 1952. Caught 349 passes for 5,602 yards and 33 touchdowns in only seven seasons.

Mick Tingelhoff
Position: Center
Teams: Minnesota Vikings 1962-1978
Bio: Minnesota Vikings’ center 1962-1978. Extreme durability, set record for offensive linemen with 240 consecutive starts. All-NFL/NFC 1964-70; 6 Pro Bowls, 4 Super Bowls. Great quickness.

Al Wistert
Position: Tackle
Teams: Philadelphia Eagles 1943-1951
Bio: Outstanding Philadelphia Eagles’ tackle 1943-51. All-NFL 1944-48. Quickness made up for lack of bulk at 217 pounds. Strong on defense; really excelled as a blocker. Led Eagles’ line in NFL championship years 1948-49.

*Voted into the Professional Football Hall of Fame after induction into the Hall of Very Good.

Rain Man
12-09-2010, 05:01 PM
As an aside, this list makes me realize how little I know of NFL players prior to the mid-1960s.

gblowfish
12-09-2010, 05:02 PM
All three of those guys deserve serious conversation about the real HOF. Jim Tyrer would be a candidate too, if he hadn't capped his wife then himself with the kids in the house.
Jerrell Wilson should be considered too. He was just as good as Ray Guy.

Did you know Bobby Bell was the deep snapper for Jan Stenerud and Jerrell Wilson?

JD10367
12-09-2010, 05:57 PM
Glad they mention Cappelletti for the Pats. Despite having some seriously good kickers in their history (Vinatieri, John Smith the Englishman, Tony Franklin the barefooted kicker who came over from the Eagles), many people still consider Gino the best.

So many players could be nominated for the Hall Of Very Good. Shit, just on the Patriots team I've been following all my life, I can name a ton of them. Steve Grogan, who used to have the record for most rushing yards by a QB, IIRC. WR Stanley Morgan. From more recent memory, guys like Bledsoe, Troy Brown, and Tedy Bruschi, who will probably never sniff the Hall of Fame in Canton.

Mr. Flopnuts
12-09-2010, 06:03 PM
Anyone remember Kenny Easley?

KChiefs1
12-09-2010, 06:10 PM
BS!

Otis Taylor shouldn't be in the Hall of Very Good...he should be in the Hall of Incredible!

He needs to be in Canton & it's bullshit he's not.

WilliamTheIrish
12-09-2010, 06:32 PM
I always felt Robert Brazile was never given his due as a great player. He had the cred for a HoF'er.

Lot of guys on that list from my childhood.

spanky 52
12-09-2010, 06:34 PM
BS!

Otis Taylor shouldn't be in the Hall of Very Good...he should be in the Hall of Incredible!

He needs to be in Canton & it's bullshit he's not.

Should have been in there long ago.

Pioli Zombie
12-09-2010, 06:54 PM
Some candidates off the top of my head
Joe Theismann
Terrell Davis
Bert Jones
Randall Cunningham
Jim Plunkett
Drew Bledsoe

mikey23545
12-09-2010, 06:54 PM
Lot of guys on that list from my childhood.

No kidding!

That list is one helluva blast from the past...

There are definitely some names on that list that deserve some serious consideration for the HOF.

mikey23545
12-09-2010, 07:02 PM
How is Johnny Robinson not in the Hall?

Pioli Zombie
12-09-2010, 08:55 PM
How is Damon Huard not in the Hall of Fame? The guys got 3 Rings and led the Chiefs into playoffs. He changed the way the position is played.
A no-brainer.

Ralphy Boy
12-09-2010, 09:58 PM
Well I can't speak to the guys that probably deserve it, that were from before my time, but during my fanhood:

James Hasty - 45 interceptions & 2 Pro Bowls

Neil Smith - 6x Pro Bowler, 2x Superbowl winner, 104 sacks and a bad ass baseball swing.

Trent - 28,475 yards passing, career 60% passer with a 162 TD's to 114 INT's

Priest - we all know what he did.

Chiefnj2
12-09-2010, 10:00 PM
Kevin Greene

Chiefs Rool
12-09-2010, 10:24 PM
My homer picks for this list:

Tim Grunhard - was a great center for us for a long time
Tony Richardson
Priest Holmes
Dave Szott
Stephan Paige
Deron Cherry
James Hasty
Christian Okoye

players who stand out from the 90's (sorry, I can't remember much prior):

Herman Moore
Ken Norton Jr
Greg Lloyd
Mark Brunell
Natrone Means
Rocket Ismail
Leroy Butler
Carl Pickens
Ricky Waters
Eric Moulds
Steve McNair
Frank Wycheck