Which team do you prefer?

[Katie]

The 2004 play off team or the 2010 play off team? The 2004 team had great offense but no defense. Seems like this year's team is more well-rounded.

Is this a better recipe for success?

[DeezNutz]

'04? Oh, ok. In this case, I prefer the '96 club.

Just busting tubes.

[ChiefsCountry]

2010 bc the 2004 team didnt make the playoffs. The 2003 team did though.
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[DBOSHO]

Well, seeing as how the 2003 team lost in the first round and this years team cant do any worse, ill take this years team.

[Katie]

Oops! sorry, had my years mixed up..life is so confusing

[TEX]

This team. The '03 team was too unbalanced.

[-King-]

The '04 playoff team was nice. But then again, the '08 team was a force to be reckoned with. They made a nice run. But none of those top the 2001 team.

[Imon Yourside]

I will take Priest off of that team! but definitely 10, not even close.

[Demonpenz]

SCOTT FUJITA WILLED HIS WAY FOR US NOT TO MAKE THE PLAYOFFS

[Ming the Merciless]

Well, seeing as how the 2003 team lost in the first round and this years team cant do any worse, ill take this years team.

solid logic, ill go with this

[KCrockaholic]

I like this years team because we have a defense this time along with a very, very good offense. Not elite, but damn good.

[ReynardMuldrake]

Better coaching and discipline in 2010, hands down.

[MTG#10]

can I see your bewbs

[NIUhuskies]

2010

[B_Ambuehl]

The '03 team was capable of beating or even embarrassing anyone in the NFL on any given sunday. I don't think you can realistically say that about this team.

[Buck]

can I see your bewbs

This

[POND_OF_RED]

The 2003 offense never skipped a beat. It could score on any defense almost anytime. I think this offense has yet to prove they can matchup with top defenses and go toe to toe with them. The Chargers made our offense look like shit both times we played them. That being said the 2003 defense had one of the worst secondaries of all time and could be burned for big plays at anytime as well. I like the more balanced team but I just hope this offense can keep rolling like it has, but it will obviously get much tougher from here with defenses like the Jets/Steelers/Ravens.

[Gary]

I'll go with whichever one that can win playoff games.

[Lzen]

The 2003 offense never skipped a beat. It could score on any defense almost anytime. I think this offense has yet to prove they can matchup with top defenses and go toe to toe with them. The Chargers made our offense look like shit both times we played them. That being said the 2003 defense had one of the worst secondaries of all time and could be burned for big plays at anytime as well. I like the more balanced team but I just hope this offense can keep rolling like it has, but it will obviously get much tougher from here with defenses like the Jets/Steelers/Ravens.

I'm pretty sure that 2003 offense skipped a beat @ Baltimore, @ Denver, and @ Minnesota.

Just sayin'.

[KCrockaholic]

I'm pretty sure that 2003 offense skipped a beat @ Baltimore, @ Denver, and @ Minnesota.

Just sayin'.

Also Vs Denver @ Arrowhead....

Dante Hall saved our ass....

And the Bungals game. You know, the Chad Johnson guarantee...

[BWillie]

The one that lost fewer games..

[mlyonsd]

Well since the 2003 team didn't win one playoff game I'd eliminate them immediately.

[BigMeatballDave]

The '03 team was capable of beating or even embarrassing anyone in the NFL on any given sunday. I don't think you can realistically say that about this team.
Your hatred of Pioli and Co. has become comical.

Per usual: GFY

[MoreLemonPledge]

I go both ways, honestly.

[BigMeatballDave]

Well, seeing as how the 2003 team lost in the first round and this years team cant do any worse, ill take this years team.Technically, they lost in the 2nd round. :D

[Imon Yourside]

Technically, they lost in the 2nd round. :D

Yes but....1994...playoff win...oh never mind! :banghead:

[J Diddy]

I go both ways, honestly.


Yes, yes you do.

[Bearcat]

The '03 team was capable of beating or even embarrassing anyone in the NFL on any given sunday. I don't think you can realistically say that about this team.

2003
1) 41-20 over the Steelers (they were down 17-7 though), Steelers ended 6-10
2) 42-14 over the Texans, 5-11
3) 38-5 over the Bills, 6-10
4) 41-20 over the Browns, 5-11
5) 45-7 over the Lions, 5-11
6) 31-3 over the Bears, 7-9

2010
1) 31-10 over the 49ers, 5-10
2) 42-20 over the Jags, 8-7
3) 31-13 over the Cardinals, 5-10
4) 42-24 over the Seahawks, 6-9
5) 34-14 over the Titans, 6-9

And they both got dominated twice.

:shrug:

Not sure if it's completely fair to compare the two anyway... if the team keeps improving, I don't think there's much of a question about taking DV's 3rd year team (2003) or Haley's.

[milkman]

This is a young team with nothing but growth ahead, while Dick's '03 team was an aging team that was maxed out.

Add the fact that I liked Dick about as much as I liked Marty, this isn't even a contest.

[Katie]

can I see your bewbs

Now boys, lets play nice!

[KCrockaholic]

Now boys, lets play nice!

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[Shaid]

The '03 team was capable of beating or even embarrassing anyone in the NFL on any given sunday. I don't think you can realistically say that about this team.

I agree. The O-line from back then with Charles would be ridiculous though.

[Hootie]

this team...not even close in my eyes

I did love the 2003 team and enjoyed the ride at the time...

[KChiefs1]

I'll take the '69 team!

[Saccopoo]

I agree. The O-line from back then with Charles would be ridiculous though.

Maybe the best offensive line ever. Everyone of those guys ended up in the Pro Bowl deservedly. And then you look at the defense...*sigh*

Fucking Peterson.

QB: Trent Green
RB: Priest Holmes
FB: Tony Richardson
LT: Willie Roaf
RT: John Tait
C: Casey Wiegmann
RG: Will Shields
LG: Brian Waters
TE: Tony Gonzalez

At that point, I have to take a brief sabatical...wow...what a lineup.

Sure the wide receivers sucked balls with Alligator Morton and Too Fast Eddie Kennison, but nothing like the tragedy on defense:

LE: Eric Hicks
RE: Vonnie Holliday (and this guy could play decent everywhere else...could never figure it out why he sucked nuts here in KC)
DT: John Browning
DT: Ryan Sims
LB: Scott Fujita (one of two solid players on defense that year)
LB: Mike Maslowski (who was a tough guy, but was battling injuries all through this season)
LB: Shawn Barber
CB: Eric Warfield
CB: Dexter McCleon
S: Greg Wesley
S: Jerome Woods

Plus, you have to add in Dante Hall in his prime, where he scored four touchdowns on returns (two on punts, two on kickoffs).

Shitty defense.

[KChiefs1]

LE: Eric Hicks
RE: Vonnie Holliday (and this guy could play decent everywhere else...could never figure it out why he sucked nuts here in KC)
DT: John Browning
DT: Ryan Sims
LB: Scott Fujita (one of two solid players on defense that year)
LB: Mike Maslowski (who was a tough guy, but was battling injuries all through this season)
LB: Shawn Barber
CB: Eric Warfield
CB: Dexter McCleon
S: Greg Wesley
S: Jerome Woods.

Nothing but pure SUCK!

[Saccopoo]

Oh, and I'll take the 2010 Chiefs as they have nowhere near the talent offensively that the 2003 team had, but they are still in the playoffs and have the potential to be competitive with anybody they face because their defense is solid.

[Saccopoo]

The 2010 team is a bunch of gamers, with a fabulous coaching staff. Looking at the 2003 versus 2010 rosters, the difference is coaching.

Put Haley, Crennel and Weis on the 2003 team and you win multiple Super Bowls. They are achieving miracles in 2010 with half the talent and/or experience.

[Chiefspants]

Maybe the best offensive line ever. Everyone of those guys ended up in the Pro Bowl deservedly. And then you look at the defense...*sigh*

****ing Peterson.

QB: Trent Green
RB: Priest Holmes
FB: Tony Richardson
LT: Willie Roaf
RT: John Tait
C: Casey Wiegmann
RG: Will Shields
LG: Brian Waters
TE: Tony Gonzalez

At that point, I have to take a brief sabatical...wow...what a lineup.

Sure the wide receivers sucked balls with Alligator Morton and Too Fast Eddie Kennison, but nothing like the tragedy on defense:

LE: Eric Hicks
RE: Vonnie Holliday (and this guy could play decent everywhere else...could never figure it out why he sucked nuts here in KC)
DT: John Browning
DT: Ryan Sims
LB: Scott Fujita (one of two solid players on defense that year)
LB: Mike Maslowski (who was a tough guy, but was battling injuries all through this season)
LB: Shawn Barber
CB: Eric Warfield
CB: Dexter McCleon
S: Greg Wesley
S: Jerome Woods

Plus, you have to add in Dante Hall in his prime, where he scored four touchdowns on returns (two on punts, two on kickoffs).

Shitty defense.

Eh, I don't know about Holliday, if you take a look at his stats you can see he's continued the wonderful standard that he set with the Chiefs. I've never figured out how he's continued to find work.

[BossChief]

Put Carr, Flowers and Hali on that 2003 team and that would have been a possible superbowl contender.

With Bartee, Warfield and Hicks....well, we all know.

[HoneyBadger]

I wonder if this years team could beat the 03 team.

[nstygma]

I wonder if this years team could beat the 03 team.

pre- or post-mazlowski?

[Saccopoo]

I wonder if this years team could beat the 03 team.

Probably not.

The strength of the 2003 team was the offensive line. I don't see anyone on this defense matching up with it, plus having Holmes in his prime, plus Richardson and Gonzalez in their primes, it would have been too much for this defense to contain.

Fujita and Woods would have been solid enough to reign in Charles.

Holliday and Hicks were marginally better than our current offensive tackles.

Special teams were so much better in 2003.

31-14, final score; 2003 vs. 2010 Chiefs

[pr_capone]

'04? Oh, ok. In this case, I prefer the '96 club.

Just busting tubes.

ROFL

[HoneyBadger]

pre- or post-mazlowski?

with him playing obviously makes the team much better

[HoneyBadger]

Probably not.

The strength of the 2003 team was the offensive line. I don't see anyone on this defense matching up with it, plus having Holmes in his prime, plus Richardson and Gonzalez in their primes, it would have been too much for this defense to contain.

Fujita and Woods would have been solid enough to reign in Charles.

Holliday and Hicks were marginally better than our current offensive tackles.

Special teams were so much better in 2003.

31-14, final score; 2003 vs. 2010 Chiefs

So then I'll go with the 03 team .

[ChiefGator]

I'll take the '69 team!

Ohh.. first the boob jokes and now this... GROW UP, won't ya?

;)

[Quesadilla Joe]

The old Chiefs with Trent Green, Priest Holmes, and that OL would dominate the 2010 Chiefs.

[ChiefGator]

LE: Eric Hicks
RE: Vonnie Holliday (and this guy could play decent everywhere else...could never figure it out why he sucked nuts here in KC)
DT: John Browning
DT: Ryan Sims
LB: Scott Fujita (one of two solid players on defense that year)
LB: Mike Maslowski (who was a tough guy, but was battling injuries all through this season)
LB: Shawn Barber
CB: Eric Warfield
CB: Dexter McCleon
S: Greg Wesley
S: Jerome Woods



It's interesting who on that defense never played a regular season game for anyone after we cut them: Eric Warfield, Dexter McCleon, Greg Wesley.

Some of the others were just over the hill and poor players.

[Bane]

The old Chiefs with Trent Green, Priest Holmes, and that OL would dominate the 2010 Chiefs.

Finally you post something that isn't flat out ape shit retarded.While part of me wants to agree with your comment,I have to believe in what we have going now and I choose to think this that team is more complete.

[-King-]

I think the 2010 chiefs would win. Our defense could make them punt at least ONCE. You think the 2003 defense could stop Jamaal charles?
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[Quesadilla Joe]

I think the 2010 chiefs would win. Our defense could make them punt at least ONCE. You think the 2003 defense could stop Jamaal charles?
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The old Chiefs would hop out to a big lead and force the 2010 Chiefs to abandon the run and make Casshole beat them.

[Chiefnj2]

The best Vermeil team was the 2005 team that didn't make the playoffs. They beat 4 playoff teams during the regular season.

I think they would beat the current team, just because they had more veterans and more experience in general.

[SenselessChiefsFan]

Well, seeing as how the 2003 team lost in the first round and this years team cant do any worse, ill take this years team.

Not true, the 2003 team lost in the second round. They had a first round bye.

[SenselessChiefsFan]

The old Chiefs would hop out to a big league and force the 2010 Chiefs to abandon the run and make Casshole beat them.

If the teams were flipped, you would be talking about how this years' team had no defense and that the other team was more complete.

You will say whatever you can to discredit this team now.

I think this team has a shot to win a playoff game. I think that this team is still ascending. I think the 2003 team had peaked and was declining by the time the playoffs came around.

Oh, and the reality is that the old Chiefs defense couldn't stop Charles, so they would never be that far behind. Not to mention, that Cassel would have a field day against that secondary.

The 2010 Chiefs wouldn't blitz much because it wouldn't work. So, they would just make the Chiefs drive the length of the field each time and wait for a mistake. Sure, the Score might be 41-38, but it would be a competitive game.

[SenselessChiefsFan]

The best Vermeil team was the 2005 team that didn't make the playoffs. They beat 4 playoff teams during the regular season.

I think they would beat the current team, just because they had more veterans and more experience in general.

It's amazing to think that one missed blitz pickup, (on an over agressive call) in the Dallas game was what caused that team to miss the playoffs.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

2010 please.

[B_Ambuehl]

The '03 team went 13-3 against a pretty good schedule and division. No way that team pulls the kinda crap this team did going into SD and Denver and being blown out and done 15 minutes in. If this team gets down 14 points they're probably not gonna come back on you. You could be up 28 on that team and the lead wasn't safe. This defense is better but it's not like they're some kind of juggernauts. They've given up a lot of points at times. Take away a couple of odd dropped balls and that '03 team is playing with a chance to go to the superbowl and they didn't have to do anything over their heads to get there.