Chiefs had the 5th highest payroll in the NFL?

[Chiefnj2]

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=hruby/110124_nfl_payrolls&sportCat=nfl

Can that be right? Or is my math that bad?

[Sofa King]

HALI IS GONNA GET AWAY!

[Hammock Parties]

According to this thread they had one of the lowest.
(http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=239438&highlight=worst)

<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="408"><tbody><tr><td valign="bottom" width="95">Team
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> Payroll (in millions)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 2010 Wins
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> millions per win
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95">

Raiders
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $152
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 7
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $22
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Cowboys (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/dallas-cowboys)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $146
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 5
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $29
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Vikings (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/minnesota-vikings)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $133
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 6
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $22
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Browns (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/cleveland-browns)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $132
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 5
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $26
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Saints (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/new-orleans-saints)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $132
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 11
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $12
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Steelers (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/pittsburgh-steelers)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $129
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 11
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $12
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Titans (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/tennessee-titans)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $126
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 6
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $21
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Cardinals (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/arizona-cardinals)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $122
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 5
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $24
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Jaguars (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/jacksonville-jaguars)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $122
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 8
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $15
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Bears (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/chicago-bears)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $120
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 11
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $11
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> 49ers (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/san-francisco-49ers)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $119
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 5
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $24
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Jets (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/new-york-jets)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $117
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 10
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $12
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Rams (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/st-louis-rams)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $117
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 7
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $17
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Giants (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/new-york-giants)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $116
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 9
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $13
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Dolphins (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/miami-dolphins)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $115
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 7
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $16
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Bills (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/buffalo-bills)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $113
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 4
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $28
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Panthers (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/carolina-panthers)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $112
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 2
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $56
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Redskins (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/washington-redskins)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $112
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 6
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $19
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Chargers (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/san-diego-chargers)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $112
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 8
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $14
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Bengals (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/cincinnati-bengals)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $110
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 4
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $28
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Eagles (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/philadelphia-eagles)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $110
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 10
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $11
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Texans (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/houston-texans)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $108
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 6
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $18
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Buccaneers (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/tampa-bay-buccaneers)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $104
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 9
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $12
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Seahawks (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/seattle-seahawks)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $103
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 6
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $17
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Falcons (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/atlanta-falcons)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $96
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 12
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $8
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Lions (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/detroit-lions)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $96
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 5
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $19
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Broncos (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/denver-broncos)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $96
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 4
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $24
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Packers (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/green-bay-packers)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $94
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 9
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $10
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Colts (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/indianapolis-colts)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $93
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 9
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $10
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Patriots (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/new-england-patriots)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $93
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 13
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $7
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Ravens (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/baltimore-ravens)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $91
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 11
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $8
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Chiefs
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $84
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 10
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $8

</td></tr></tbody></table>

[Sofa King]

HALI IS GONNA STAY!

[bowener]

According to this thread they had one of the lowest.
(http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=239438&highlight=worst)

<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="408"><tbody><tr><td valign="bottom" width="95">Team
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> Payroll (in millions)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 2010 Wins
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> millions per win
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95">

Raiders
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $152
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 7
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $22
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Cowboys (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/dallas-cowboys)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $146
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 5
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $29
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Vikings (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/minnesota-vikings)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $133
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 6
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $22
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Browns (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/cleveland-browns)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $132
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 5
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $26
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Saints (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/new-orleans-saints)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $132
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 11
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $12
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Steelers (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/pittsburgh-steelers)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $129
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 11
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $12
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Titans (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/tennessee-titans)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $126
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 6
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $21
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Cardinals (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/arizona-cardinals)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $122
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 5
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $24
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Jaguars (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/jacksonville-jaguars)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $122
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 8
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $15
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Bears (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/chicago-bears)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $120
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 11
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $11
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> 49ers (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/san-francisco-49ers)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $119
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 5
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $24
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Jets (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/new-york-jets)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $117
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 10
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $12
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Rams (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/st-louis-rams)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $117
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 7
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $17
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Giants (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/new-york-giants)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $116
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 9
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $13
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Dolphins (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/miami-dolphins)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $115
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 7
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $16
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Bills (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/buffalo-bills)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $113
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 4
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $28
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Panthers (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/carolina-panthers)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $112
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 2
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $56
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Redskins (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/washington-redskins)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $112
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 6
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $19
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Chargers (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/san-diego-chargers)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $112
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 8
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $14
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Bengals (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/cincinnati-bengals)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $110
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 4
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $28
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Eagles (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/philadelphia-eagles)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $110
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 10
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $11
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Texans (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/houston-texans)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $108
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 6
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $18
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Buccaneers (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/tampa-bay-buccaneers)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $104
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 9
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $12
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Seahawks (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/seattle-seahawks)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $103
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 6
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $17
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Falcons (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/atlanta-falcons)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $96
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 12
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $8
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Lions (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/detroit-lions)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $96
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 5
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $19
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Broncos (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/denver-broncos)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $96
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 4
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $24
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Packers (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/green-bay-packers)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $94
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 9
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $10
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Colts (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/indianapolis-colts)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $93
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 9
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $10
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Patriots (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/new-england-patriots)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $93
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 13
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $7
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Ravens (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/baltimore-ravens)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $91
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 11
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $8
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Chiefs
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $84
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 10
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $8

</td></tr></tbody></table>

LMAO @ Panthers "per win Cost"

Chiefs did pretty damn well from a financial standpoint I guess.
#1 - Pats
#2 - Falcons
#3 - Ravens ($8.27~mil)
#4 - Chiefs ($8.4 mil)

[bowener]

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=hruby/110124_nfl_payrolls&sportCat=nfl

Can that be right? Or is my math that bad?

The numbers from this site, and the ones provided by Clay, are way different.

Do you know if the ESPN numbers include bonuses or something, because there is a $50 million difference between the two.

[WebGem]

I think that ESPN one is wrong. I think it's using everyones average salary per year on their contract instead of their actual 2010 salary. I'm only saying this because in the comments next to KC is says Cassel made $11.75 million. I've heard a couple times this year that his 2010 salary was $15 million. In that case it would be better, but it's possible it's using a bigger number than the 2010 salary for a bunch of other guys.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Remember johnson and charles new deal most of there money goes on this year ....

[Dave Lane]

According to this thread they had one of the lowest.
(http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=239438&highlight=worst)

The first article includes draft consulting fees for the draftabulators hence the much higher figure.

[WebGem]

Remember johnson and charles new deal most of there money goes on this year ....

Most of their new deal money was added to their 2010 salary?

[Mr. Laz]

Remember johnson and charles new deal most of there money goes on this year ....
link?

i wasn't aware that we knew how their contracts were structured.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/11/09/derrick-johnsons-new-deal-is-a-win-win-for-player-team/

Derrick johnson base in 2010 went from 2.4 m to 19m


Derrick Johnson’s new deal is a win-win for player, team
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on November 9, 2010, 4:35 PM EST
The official numbers are out regarding the five-year extension signed by Chiefs linebacker Derrick Johnson.

And though the official numbers, as usual, aren’t as solid as the reported numbers, the gap is smaller than usual.

Per a league source, Johnson (as reported) receives $15 million in guaranteed money. We’re told that much of it comes from an increase in his 2010 base salary from $2.475 million to $19.475 million.

Johnson won’t get much of the difference because nine weeks of the regular season have elapsed. He’ll make $9.14 million over the balance of the year. He was due to make $1.2375 million from Week 10 through Week 17.

The base value of the deal includes $27.5 million in new money, with $18 million paid out over the first three years. With incentives based on individual and team success (including playing time, Pro Bowls, and wins), Johnson is eligible for annual incentives that can push the deal toward a maximum value of $34 million.

It’s a reasonable contract, good but not great, for a guy who was slated to become an unrestricted free agent in a year when it’s unclear when or if unrestricted free agency will ever begin. And the decision to reward Johnson for having a strong season is part of an apparent strategy on the part of the Chiefs to identify the right players around which to build, to offer them fair deals, and to work toward making the franchise successful.

More teams would be wise to identify soon-to-be unrestricted free agents and offer them the security that comes from a fair long-term deal. With the labor situation still up in the air, guys who don’t get paid now may not get paid for a long time.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Trying to find jamaal having some promblems finding it

[Mr. Laz]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/11/09/derrick-johnsons-new-deal-is-a-win-win-for-player-team/

We’re told that much of it comes from an increase in his 2010 base salary from $2.475 million to $19.475 million.

He’ll make $9.14 million over the balance of the year.

He was due to make $1.2375 million from Week 10 through Week 17.

The base value of the deal includes $27.5 million in new money, with $18 million paid out over the first three years.
thanks for link

wow, so we gave a front loaded contract to a guy who had under-performed until contract time, who didn't even start the year before and who was rumored to have mental 'issues'

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Its a win win if theres a lockout jamaal and derrick have money ..For the chiefs most of it counts on 2010 payroll.Thats why they should sign hali before march 3 at midnight .

[Rausch]

thanks for link

wow, so we gave a front loaded contract to a guy who had under-performed until contract time, who didn't even start the year before and who was rumored to have mental 'issues'

Isn't that what we did with Casshole (save the mental issues?)

[Rausch]

According to this thread they had one of the lowest.
(http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=239438&highlight=worst)

<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="408"><tbody><tr><td valign="bottom" width="95">Team
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> Payroll (in millions)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 2010 Wins
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> millions per win
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95">

Raiders
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $152
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 7
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $22
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Cowboys (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/dallas-cowboys)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $146
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 5
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $29
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Vikings (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/minnesota-vikings)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $133
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 6
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $22
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Browns (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/cleveland-browns)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $132
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 5
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $26
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Saints (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/new-orleans-saints)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $132
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 11
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $12
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Steelers (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/pittsburgh-steelers)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $129
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 11
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $12
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Titans (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/tennessee-titans)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $126
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 6
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $21
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Cardinals (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/arizona-cardinals)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $122
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 5
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $24
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Jaguars (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/jacksonville-jaguars)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $122
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 8
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $15
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Bears (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/chicago-bears)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $120
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 11
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $11
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> 49ers (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/san-francisco-49ers)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $119
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 5
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $24
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Jets (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/new-york-jets)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $117
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 10
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $12
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Rams (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/st-louis-rams)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $117
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 7
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $17
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Giants (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/new-york-giants)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $116
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 9
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $13
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Dolphins (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/miami-dolphins)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $115
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 7
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $16
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Bills (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/buffalo-bills)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $113
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 4
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $28
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Panthers (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/carolina-panthers)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $112
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 2
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $56
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Redskins (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/washington-redskins)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $112
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 6
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $19
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Chargers (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/san-diego-chargers)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $112
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 8
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $14
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Bengals (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/cincinnati-bengals)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $110
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 4
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $28
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Eagles (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/philadelphia-eagles)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $110
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 10
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $11
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Texans (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/houston-texans)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $108
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 6
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $18
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Buccaneers (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/tampa-bay-buccaneers)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $104
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 9
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $12
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Seahawks (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/seattle-seahawks)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $103
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 6
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $17
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Falcons (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/atlanta-falcons)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $96
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 12
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $8
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Lions (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/detroit-lions)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $96
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 5
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $19
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Broncos (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/denver-broncos)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $96
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 4
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $24
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Packers (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/green-bay-packers)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $94
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 9
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $10
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Colts (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/indianapolis-colts)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $93
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 9
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $10
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Patriots (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/new-england-patriots)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $93
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 13
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $7
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Ravens (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/baltimore-ravens)
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $91
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 11
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $8
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="bottom" width="95"> Chiefs
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="109"> $84
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="103"> 10
</td> <td valign="bottom" width="101"> $8

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Seeing what the Pats, Ravens, and Colts paid is just amazing. 3 of the 10 best teams in the league and lowest payrolls...

[Mr. Laz]

Isn't that what we did with Casshole (save the mental issues?)
what does Cassel have to do with Derrick Johnson?

or does this belong under the "every subject is a Matt Cassel subject" CP rule?

[Rausch]

what does Cassel have to do with Derrick Johnson?

or does this belong under the "every subject is a Matt Cassel subject" CP rule?

Paying an unproven player a metric fuck-ton of $$$.

DJ did not consistently put it together until this year.

[Mr. Laz]

Paying an unproven player a metric ****-ton of $$$.

DJ did not consistently put it together until this year.
so every thread is a cassel thread .... got it.

[Rausch]

so every thread is a cassel thread .... got it.

No, every thread is a laz butthurt thread.

[Mr. Laz]

No, every thread is a laz butthurt thread.omg ... you just make shit up like a 3rd grade child.

the only thing i'm 'butthurt' about is that fact that some stupid fuck has to bring up matt cassel in every dam thread for no apparent reason.

free agency - matt cassel
derrick johnson - matt cassel
salary cap - matt cassel
Macaulay Culkin - matt cassel

:doh!:

[Sofa King]

Seeing what the Pats, Ravens, and Colts paid is just amazing. 3 of the 10 best teams in the league and lowest payrolls...


no love for the packers?


i mean, they're in the SB....

[WebGem]

no love for the packers?


i mean, they're in the SB....

Aside from those 4 teams, the other bottom 5 team (on that list) is the Chiefs. So the bottom 5 teams all made the playoffs.

[Rausch]

omg ... you just make shit up like a 3rd grade child.

the only thing i'm 'butthurt' about is that fact that some stupid **** has to bring up matt cassel in every dam thread for no apparent reason.

free agency - matt cassel
derrick johnson - matt cassel
salary cap - matt cassel
Macaulay Culkin - matt cassel

:doh!:

What the **** are you yammering about?

It's a risky deal. Huge up front payment for a guy with really only 1 good year.

We've done it before. I guess I could have named all the times Carl Peterson wasted ****ing money on a guy with one productive year but there's not much point in that, now is there?

We have two years to judge this Owner/GM/Front office on, and it doesn't make a lot of sense bothering with what Carl did or would have done, so there aren't many huge contracts for underachieving/unproven players to judge this against.

If that chaps your ass have a coke and a smile...

[Rausch]

no love for the packers?


i mean, they're in the SB....

This year that's impressive.

The other three have been tops for years though. How they could stay that good for that long and still not be in cap hell is impressive.

You could argue the Steelers could be in trouble but hell, when you look at their success it's money well spent...

[CrazyHorse]

Would re-signing DJ and Charles effect these numbers?

Because at the begining of the season we were one of, if not the lowest. I think we were lowest last season. In fact, I seem to remember having to spend some money to get our payroll up to the minimum allowed.

[JohnnyV13]

Johnson's deal is structured as 2010 salary b/c this season has no cap. I'm sure Charles' deal is done the same way. That way, Johnson and Charles will have very cap friendly deals; presuming the cap continues to exist under a new labor agreement.

I bet the Chiefs extend Flowers, Bowe and Carr before the end of the league year, presuming they have they cash. If the Chiefs don't do these deals, its likely they hit their cash limit.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Would re-signing DJ and Charles effect these numbers?

Because at the begining of the season we were one of, if not the lowest. I think we were lowest last season. In fact, I seem to remember having to spend some money to get our payroll up to the minimum allowed.

go back and read the whole post you can answer you're own ?

[CrazyHorse]

go back and read the whole post you can answer you're own ?



Thanks

[Rausch]

Johnson's deal is structured as 2010 salary b/c this season has no cap. I'm sure Charles' deal is done the same way. That way, Johnson and Charles will have very cap friendly deals; presuming the cap continues to exist under a new labor agreement.

I bet the Chiefs extend Flowers, Bowe and Carr before the end of the league year, presuming they have they cash. If the Chiefs don't do these deals, its likely they hit their cash limit.

If Carr, Berry, and Lewis can continue to improve our secondary could be nails for a while.

Flowers is a must to extend...

[CrazyHorse]

This year that's impressive.

The other three have been tops for years though. How they could stay that good for that long and still not be in cap hell is impressive.

You could argue the Steelers could be in trouble but hell, when you look at their success it's money well spent...

The answer is good drafts. Those teams have been consitently drafting well. We have done well lately. Thats why we're are at that 8 million per win margin. Im sure you noticed how big a role our rookies played in our 10 wins this season. In fact the last 2 or 3 years have been pretty good. This is a very good sign for the Chiefs IMO.

It also reinforces that its not about drafting that one superstar player, or signing high priced free agents if you want to build a long term winner. Its about drafting consistant and spending FA dollars well.