DE Allen Bailey Miami

[Hammock Parties]

COUNTRY STRONG!

Height: 6-3
Weight: 285
Speed: 4.78
Arm: 34
Hand: 10 1/4
Wingspan: 82 1/4
Birthdate: 03/25/1989
Hometown: Sapelo, GA
Grade: 5.67

http://www.thenationalfootballreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/allen-bailey1.jpg

Notes: Also played basketball as a prep. Highly recruited linebacker-fullback who played just four games as a senior because of a stress fracture in his back. Grew up in the village of Hog Hammock on Sapelo Island, a tiny (approximately 100 residents), remote location 15 miles off the coast of Georgia. Bailey commuted 45 minutes — by ferry, then by bus — to attend school. Spent nights sleeping at a teammate’s house on the mainland during the season. Saw limited action, mostly on special teams, in all 12 games as a true freshman in 2007 and recorded four tackles without a tackle for loss or sack. Tore a pectoral muscle after ’08 spring practice and sat out the season opener against Charleston Southern but started 4-of-13 games at left end and notched 24-9-5. In ’09, started 8-of-13 games — five at left defensive tackle and three at right defensive end — and posted 34-11-7 with two batted passes and two forced fumbles. Started all 13 games at left defensive end in ’10, although he moved inside on some third-down plays, and recorded 45-11-7 with one pass batted down. Team captain.

Positives: Has raw, brute, country strength and is chiseled like a Greek god. Physical marvel. Very strong at the point of attack and can set the edge, push the pocket and anchor vs. the double-team. Almost never gets knocked off the ball and has exceptional two-gap strength. Outstanding energy and effort — runs to the ball. Has a 36-inch vertical jump and good lower-body explosion. Strong tackler. Outstanding character. Highly motivated, hardworking and driven to succeed.

Negatives: Average instincts and awareness. Does not have an arsenal of pass-rush moves and relies too much on the bull rush. Too robotic and mechanical in his movement. Has a tendency to play very upright and struggles to unlock his hips. Lacks an innate feel for the game and is late to react to what he sees. Cannot create one-on-one. Can be more disciplined with his eyes.

Summary: A big, tightly wound, country-strong bookend whose lackluster Senior Bowl performance clearly emphasized a lack of instincts that could drive down his value. Nonetheless, is a physical marvel with rare strength and could be programmed to serve as a fencepost in an odd front. Scheme-diverse and has eventual starter potential as a base end, kicking inside in passing situations, or as a five-technique in a 3-4 front.

NFL projection: Second- to third-round pick.

[kstater]

This pick just screams Egoli.

[bsp4444]

I thought sure Powe would be the choice here.

[Quesadilla Joe]

I guess the Chiefs are going another year without a NT. LMAO

[Fat Elvis]

I thought sure Powe would be the choice here.

esto

[Hammock Parties]

I guess the Chiefs are going another year without a NT. LMAO

Shut the fuck up asshole. We're going to snag Powe in the next round. It's DESTINY.

[Molitoth]

Looks like a project with a ton of upside.

[Huffman83]

I'm kind of tired of DE's being drafted. Hopefully this is like a Moeaki type pick where when he was picked I thought "um....okay." and turned out being a very productive player (when he played.)

[Ericgoodchief]

Inside Linebacker?

[The Bad Guy]

I guess the Chiefs are going another year without a NT. LMAO

I guess the Broncos are going another year without two defensive tackles.

[chiefzilla1501]

A surprising pick. But if you're going to take a raw D-line prospect, who better to coach him up than Romeo?

[HoneyBadger]

I guess the Broncos are going another year of sucking .

FYP

[Quesadilla Joe]

I guess the Broncos are going another year without two defensive tackles.

We completely retooled our LB corps and we already have one good 4-3 DT in Kevin Vickerson. Finding a starting 4-3 DT in free agency will be a hell of a lot easier than finding a starting caliber 3-4 NT.

[BryanBusby]

We completely retooled our LB corps and we already have one good 4-3 DT in Kevin Vickerson. Finding a starting 4-3 DT in free agency will be a hell of a lot easier than finding a starting caliber 3-4 NT.

loooooooool

[mcaj22]

Inside Linebacker?



lol

[DBOSHO]

I guess the Chiefs are going another year without a NT. LMAO

You picked a 200lb linebacker with the 2nd overall pick.

[The Bad Guy]

We completely retooled our LB corps and we already have one good 4-3 DT in Kevin Vickerson. Finding a starting 4-3 DT in free agency will be a hell of a lot easier than finding a starting caliber 3-4 NT.

More bullshit from you. Vickerson sucks.

[seclark]

We completely retooled our LB corps and we already have one good 4-3 DT in Kevin Vickerson. Finding a starting 4-3 DT in free agency will be a hell of a lot easier than finding a starting caliber 3-4 NT.

so, i guess you're gonna quit watching after 3-4 games again?
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[mcaj22]

who in the blue hell is Kevin Vickerson?

[Pasta Little Brioni]

We completely retooled our LB corps and we already have one good 4-3 DT in Kevin Vickerson. Finding a starting 4-3 DT in free agency will be a hell of a lot easier than finding a starting caliber 3-4 NT.

ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL

[Mr. Arrowhead]

Justin Houston will break Tim Tebow legs

[KCrockaholic]

We completely retooled our LB corps and we already have one good 4-3 DT in Kevin Vickerson. Finding a starting 4-3 DT in free agency will be a hell of a lot easier than finding a starting caliber 3-4 NT.

Dumbass strikes again. DUN DUN DUN!

[gonefishin53]

Inside Linebacker?

Patterns his play after former Cane Ray Lewis (CBS sports). Weighed in at 275#s at his pro day. On the way to 270#s? Was a top rated inside backer coming out of high school. Would be a real thumper in the middle maybe.

[BigRedChief]

You picked a 200lb linebacker with the 2nd overall pick.Hey he's the new DT, don't you read the Bronco boards?

[CoMoChief]

who in the blue hell is Kevin Vickerson?

he's a future pro bowler

- KnowMo -

[Tribal Warfare]

IMO, this means that Dorsey could be a one contract guy here also.

[The Bad Guy]

IMO, this means that Dorsey could be a one contract guy here also.

The most overrated fucking line of the draft.

"This pick could mean that x player is a one contract guy"

It means that the team takes players for depth and rotations.

It's fucking dumb.

"Baldwin could mean Bowe's gone when his contract is up"

"Houston could mean that Hali is gone after next year"

Now we get this one.

Jesus Christ.

[SDChiefs]

Another fucking five tech? Are you fucking kidding me? Three years in the 34 and still no nt.

[Mr. Laz]

what does he look like if he adds 20lbs and moves inside?

DE Allen Bailey Miami
COUNTRY STRONG!

Height: 6-3
Weight: 305
Speed: 4.78
Arm: 34
Hand: 10 1/4
Wingspan: 82 1/4
Birthdate: 03/25/1989
Hometown: Sapelo, GA
Grade: 5.67

[BigCatDaddy]

what does he look like if he adds 20lbs and moves inside?

DE Allen Bailey Miami
COUNTRY STRONG!

Height: 6-3
Weight: 305
Speed: 4.78
Arm: 34
Hand: 10 1/4
Wingspan: 82 1/4
Birthdate: 03/25/1989
Hometown: Sapelo, GA
Grade: 5.67

A 4-3 DT?

[Dante84]

Sounds like we drafted John Coffee:

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[Mr. Laz]

A 4-3 DT?
no, i guess what i'm asking is that if Bailey is as naturally strong as they say can he add weight and play NT for us?

[Jethopper]

Stop it, he's a DE and that's where he'll stay

[Mr. Laz]

Stop it, he's a DE and that's where he'll staynlm

[Ericgoodchief]

Keep us updated when Metro sports has Pioli on. Want to hear what he says today.

should be soon.

[Fat Elvis]

Stop it, he's a DE and that's where he'll stay

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/300973/tiny-allen-bailey-TINY-ALLEN-BAILEY-IS-DISAPPOINTED.jpg

[LOCOChief]

Inside Linebacker?

This is what I'm thinking.

[corandval]

He will be an inside linebacker.

[Hammock Parties]

I want this guy to rack up about 50 tackles a year so I can scream COUUUUUUUUUUNTRY STRAAAAAAAWNG!!!!!!!!!!! after every one.

[Mr. Laz]

This pick just screams Egoli.
takes all of an hour for people to turn on him ROFL

[aturnis]

From Scout.com

Bailey had a chance to rocket up draft boards this week, but that likely didn't happen. That said, he did have a solid combine, posting a 40 time in the 4.7 range and finishing among the top five defensive linemen in the vertical jump, the latter of which indicates above-average explosiveness. While Bailey likely didn't do much to convince scouts that he could be a full-time 3-4 OLB, his across the board numbers still indicate the potential for an unusual type of diversity that a creative 3-4 defensive coordinator could use to his advantage.

It's the Seventh Floor NFL Combine Review - The 7th Floor

Allen Bailey Combine review from our Hurricanes blog. Check it out

[nychief]

285 lb middle linebacker?

[Frankie]

My son texted me that Gruden and McShay hinted that Bailey is mentally challenged. did y'all notice anything like that?

[LOCOChief]

285 lb middle linebacker?
No 4.7 40 guy, top 5 verticle jump explosive guy that happens to be a 275lb guy

[Fat Elvis]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/story?columnist=feldman_bruce&id=4174191

2. Allen Bailey, Miami, DT: On a wall inside the UM football offices are the team bests for each exercise by position. When you get to defensive linemen, almost all you see is one Bailey head shot after another. Some UM fans have taken to calling him "Freakzilla," thanks in part to his awesome athleticism but also to his Bunyanesque background that has created some legendary tales. Such as how he once killed an alligator with a shovel.

Bailey, who last season battled through a torn pectoral muscle while making the transition from linebacker to defensive line, had nine tackles for loss and five sacks. Now that he's healthy and more comfortable playing at defensive tackle, expectations around Coral Gables, Fla., are soaring. Some inside the program think the junior will restart Miami's streak of first-round draft picks. Lord knows he should test well at the NFL combine next year.

This spring, Bailey vertical jumped 39 inches despite weighing 288 pounds. He ran a 4.65 40 time. He power-cleaned 375. Longtime UM strength coach Andreu Swasey, who has trained the likes of Willis McGahee, Kellen Winslow II, Sean Taylor and others, gives Bailey perhaps the ultimate praise: "He is the freakiest of all the freaks since I've been here," Swasey says. "When he got here, he weighed 270, and I told the coaches, 'He's going to be 300, but it'll be a 300 like you've never seen before.'"

Give the man a shovel.

[Frankie]

285 lb middle linebacker?

Why not? He's fast enough. :hmmm:

[salame]

at the very least he will push JAckson

[nascher]

Ron Edwards is going to play NT again and he did a good job the last years after the transition from the 4-3 were he also was a starter.

Bailey has a body like Schwarzenegger on roids many years ago.
Somewhere i saw a pic of him.

[Tribal Warfare]

285 lb middle linebacker?

Levon Kirkland was 275, but I believe Bailey will compete for the DE spot(s)

[Renegade]

My son texted me that Gruden and McShay hinted that Bailey is mentally challenged. did y'all notice anything like that?

IMHO, all Hurricane players are mentally challenged. They don't appear to be the sharpest knives in the drawer.

[Molitoth]

http://www.frumpzilla.com/image_gallery/Allen-Bailey-Weigh-In.jpg

http://c.photoshelter.com/img-get/I0000RaIfbjm7gag/s/860/860/Biceps-of-Allen-Bailey-MG-1154.jpg

http://blogs.themiamihurricane.com/media/blogs/UmFootball/yuck.jpg

[Dante84]

John Coffey, I say, I say

[ILChief]

Ron Edwards is going to play NT again and he did a good job the last years after the transition from the 4-3 were he also was a starter.

Bailey has a body like Schwarzenegger on roids many years ago.
Somewhere i saw a pic of him.

Ron Edwards is awful. Shaun smith would be a better option

[Fat Elvis]

what does he look like if he adds 20lbs and moves inside?

DE Allen Bailey Miami
COUNTRY STRONG!

Height: 6-3
Weight: 305
Speed: 4.78
Arm: 34
Hand: 10 1/4
Wingspan: 82 1/4
Birthdate: 03/25/1989
Hometown: Sapelo, GA
Grade: 5.67

I may be the only one besides you, but I kinda like that idea. That kind of speed and strength at NT would revolutionize the way that the 3-4 is played. If any D-Coordinator could make something like that work, it would be Romeo.

[tk13]

Wow. Dude killed an alligator. We drafted Bill Brasky.

[Dante84]

Dude. If he ends up at MLB.... yikes.

[Dante84]

#
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joshklingler‎ #Chiefs - Bailey begins as situational inside rusher, 'different but similar' to Gilberry then see from there if hes a DL or a LB eventually

[tk13]

Sounds good. I'd really like a DT but we badly need to address the pass rush too.

[nascher]

Bailey could occupy a few different roles in a 4-3 defense. May find a home as a strong side end or at defensive tackle and certainly provides a coordinator the versatility to move him around. Uses his hands, power moves and good get off to pressure the passer. Very complete against the run. Holds his base very well, gets off blocks, fights through double teams and is a sure tackler when arriving at the ball-carrier. Shows sound awareness and positioning on the field. Relentless in pursuit either from the backside or down the field. Bailey's a probable first round pick.

Ron Edwards is so awful that he managed to stay and start every game even under the new staff and after the change from the 4-3 to the 3-4 ? LOL
He is no Vince Wilfork but he is far away from awful.

[Tribal Warfare]

Wow. Dude killed an alligator. We drafted Bill Brasky.

We Have the illegitimate child of Chuck Norris, and if anything badass happens Chuck Norris is usually involved.

[cdcox]

He has a DE body, and that's where he'll play.

[booger]

like Gilberry, Bailey compares somewhat to Jarvis Green from the Pats days as an undersized end for a 34 but will have a role in the nickel. Both guys are athletic enough to play some special teams too which is rare for a DL.

Cam Sheffield had a good camp last year and if cleared from his neck inj they are wracking up some legit competition. Sheffield even played a bit inside, not a bunch but they did try him there. Same with Justin Cole except he started out inside and then shifted to outside. Studebaker is what he is but if he could help out and maybe start on the strong side as a 2 down LB until houston's pass drops become natural. I think Studebaker could compete some inside if need be too. Plus Cory Greenwood they like as a nickel backer. He and Verran Tucker were pretty damn good for rookie fa's.

It's not something that is probable but they have some versatility in the front 7 to play some hybrid sets and play Dorsey as a inside shade and do some 1 gap. Maybe even TJack. They just can't and IMO won't bulk up Dorsey for a full time NT role. He's adapted just fine and plays his role very well. He's worked too hard to lose the weight and can't carry it because of his stress fracture in his leg he has trouble with since LSU.

The new guys are green and will take some time but there some big fast tough dudes who's issues seem minor in Houston and Baldwins cases and all stuff that is coachable in all 4.

I've liked Gales as a big DE who can move but he's likely up for a battle along with OLB Pierre Walters. Gales has an outside shot at NT too, has had snaps there, but it's pretty tough for some 6-5 guys to anchor at the zero tech.

[Frankie]

For better or worse, (from waltersfootball.com):

[booger]

somewhat like cam jordan the DE the saints took, they very well may try Bailey at OLB like others have said. With a good attitude and work ethic like he seems to have from those reports maybe they doubled up in the 3rd just because they didn't like other OLB prospects as much and figure they'll try with Houston and Bailey while having fallback plans for Bailey at DE. If they are just depth, pass rushers and special teamers they will still see plenty of snaps. Both seem to run better than Ayers.

[Molitoth]

Personally, I feel this was our weakest and least sensable pick.

[Bump]

I don't know anything about him, but sounds like a good talent. Love the country strength, hard-working type aspect. Romeo will coach him up!

[booger]

CBA, contracts and the future is considered here as well. They got 2 CB's yet to pay plus Tamba. Gilberry is restricted depending on the CBA and all that BS. But say he plays for next year then becomes a UFA and has another 6-7 or more sack season and some 43 team will want him bad and it will be hard to keep him.

[wazu]

Personally, I feel this was our weakest and least sensable pick.

Why? I can think of nothing we needed more than a 5th Defensive End. Now if we can just do something about that gaping hole at TE.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

Personally, I feel this was our weakest and least sensable pick.

A lot of people said that about Hali. I think Crennel is the right DC for this guy.

[wazu]

CBA, contracts and the future is considered here as well. They got 2 CB's yet to pay plus Tamba. Gilberry is restricted depending on the CBA and all that BS. But say he plays for next year then becomes a UFA and has another 6-7 or more sack season and some 43 team will want him bad and it will be hard to keep him.

Yes, I love to hear that even though our team salary is among the lowest in the league, we need to begin drafting players now in anticipation of all the home-grown star players we drafted and developed, but don't intend to keep.

[booger]

Yes, I love to hear that even though our team salary is among the lowest in the league, we need to begin drafting players now in anticipation of all the home-grown star players we drafted and developed, but don't intend to keep.
I would want to keep him too but on the open market Gilberry would cash in and make more as a starter than a backup here.

point is who knows what the future holds so not only depth wise but contracts as well it never hurts.

[Frankie]

Personally, I feel this was our weakest and least sensable pick.

AND the least sensible too.

[wazu]

I would want to keep him too but on the open market Gilberry would cash in and make more as a starter than a backup here.

point is who knows what the future holds so not only depth wise but contracts as well it never hurts.

Bottom line is I don't care how much. Draft a FUCKING NOSE TACKLE. Pay Gilberry if you need to. Keep anybody who is good until money actually becomes an issue with some kind of new salary cap that is in place. Then, okay, I can return to the days of giving a damn about keeping payroll down.

[kysirsoze]

Bottom line is I don't care how much. Draft a ****ING NOSE TACKLE. Pay Gilberry if you need to. Keep anybody who is good until money actually becomes an issue with some kind of new salary cap that is in place. Then, okay, I can return to the days of giving a damn about keeping payroll down.

I think they'll be drafting a NT. Evrybody on here seems sold on Powe and he's projected by most to be there when we pick as late as the 5th. Draft's not over yet.

[BryanBusby]

Looking at the picks of Houston and Bailey, beyond the value, it looks like the Chiefs went after players that should be very productive in the nickel package on 3rd downs. After watching them struggle to stop Baltimore on 3rd down, this is a good idea.

[Dante84]

I dunno, I guess I thought he'd be bigger. I also don't think he'll be able to wear his #3 in the NFL at the position he plays.

[Frankie]

I think they'll be drafting a NT. Evrybody on here seems sold on Powe and he's projected by most to be there when we pick as late as the 5th. Draft's not over yet.

Everyone is sold on Powe because there was a combine report that Chiefs paid special attention to him.

[wazu]

I think they'll be drafting a NT. Evrybody on here seems sold on Powe and he's projected by most to be there when we pick as late as the 5th. Draft's not over yet.

I was convinced of this all last year, too.

[Dante84]

This guy is such a freak.

Pride of Hog Hammock
By Josh Looney

Allen Bailey - the big man from a tiny island

Having grown up a remote island off the coast of Georgia, Chiefs third-round draft pick Allen Bailey comes from a unique background. The community of Hog Hammock, and its 60-some residents living on Sapelo Island, is what Bailey calls home.

The children of the tiny island take a 45-minute ferry ride into the mainland for school each morning. The majority of household supplies must travel via ferry as well. It’s a route that Bailey knows well.

The island is only 13 miles long and is covered mostly by marshes and trees. It’s a place so remote that the scenery is foreign to even the most versed travelers.

“No one (from the Chiefs scouting department) actually went there,” General Manager Scott Pioli revealed Friday night. “But we talked to some people.”

Coming from a place so secluded, it’s no surprise Bailey was almost completely alone when the Chiefs dialed his number.

“I was actually down the street, taking a walk with my niece when the Chiefs called,” Bailey said from Darien, Georgia moments after being selected 86th overall in the 2011 NFL Draft. “I still haven’t made it back to the house yet, but I’m sure everybody back there is ecstatic.”

Darien is a small town in mainland Georgia located southwest of Hog Hammock. He was off the island Friday night because Hog Hammock doesn’t receive reliable cell phone reception.

It’s amazing that a community so small could produce an athlete so large. Bailey is the pride of an island where everybody knows everyone. But even if Bailey lived in Atlanta, it’s unlikely he’d go unnoticed.

Bailey squats 585 pounds, bench presses 415 pounds and power cleans 405 pounds. His vertical jump is the highest of any Miami player – ever – and, with arms so sculpted, Bailey’s teammates call him “Billy Bicep.”

“He’s a strong player but he’s also explosively strong,” Pioli said. “There are a lot of guys who don’t necessarily have explosion. The other thing he’s got to go with that is he’s got extremely long arms.

“If we get him and keep him in one position because he’s been a guy who’s moved around a bunch of places, if we can get him in one place, keep him there and make use of the tools and teach him the techniques we’re trying to get, he may have a better chance to develop and become more successful.”

For now, the Chiefs plan to use Bailey as a sub-package rusher similar to the role Wallace Gilberry played last season. One of Gilberry’s primary roles consisted of shifting inside when the Chiefs played in nickel sets. Bailey can provide competition at that position as well as others.

Though he’s currently not big enough to play in the Chiefs base defense as nose tackle, Bailey can certainly play along the interior over guards and shift outside to align over tackles as well.

Versatility is one of Bailey’s greatest assets. He played every position on the defensive line over his final three seasons at Miami after beginning his career as an inside linebacker for the Hurricanes.

“Now, in the case of particular players, there are some players who may necessarily be on the surface – and Bailey may be a good example – where he’s a jack of many trades and is perceived as being a master none,” said Pioli. “We, however, think that he may be able to have a chance to be a master at one thing, which is rushing the passer from the inside position, being a good sub-inside rusher.”

Pioli outlined improving the pass rush as one of the Chiefs primary needs heading into draft weekend. Generating that rush extends beyond adding Justin Houston at outside linebacker. In Kansas City’s 3-4 defense, generating pressure is a collective effort from the front seven.

Depending on the role he’s asked to play, Bailey says his frame allows him to gain or lose weight as requested by the Chiefs coaching staff.

In the short-term, Bailey might put on a pound or two back at the island. He’s just become the first NFL player from Hog Hammock. An island-style party is in store.

“There will probably be one, a little get-together, a cookout outside and a bonfire type thing,” Bailey laughed.


Highest vert from Miami EVER and he weighs just under 300lbs?????!!!!

[Rausch]

Everyone is sold on Powe because there was a combine report that Chiefs paid special attention to him.

Yup, that's why I was a fan.

No.

I like players with range and try to concentrate on guys with the smarts to play this scheme and off the field morals to make the grade.

I based my wants on that.

I don't know. I didn't coach him. I hear Powe is an attack dog. He's not much smarter than that but he's also got the ability to slide down the line and rotate.
He has the talent and ablility (NOT SAYING HE WILL PRODUCE) at the 1 (where he's projected) and the 5 (In spot duty.)

Pioli is all about 1)Range, 2) Talent, 3) Character.

Apparently in that order.

Powe is an angry dog on a leash in this system and if we resign NuT-sNadger and "Part-time" we could rotate him between NT and end.

[Rausch]

This completely pisses me off because it's perfect.

THIS, YOU egocentric fuck, is where you draft a 3-4 DE.

Perfect spot.

On top of that he got GREAT value.

Pioli fucking whacked it out of the park on day 2.

SO WHY THE FUCK DID YOU EVER TAKE A 5 TECH IN THE TOP FUCKING 10!??

[GordonGekko]

Something tells me this guy will turn into the best player we get out of this draft

[Dante84]

Something tells me this guy will turn into the best player we get out of this draft

The nice thing is, you could say that about any of the guys we got.

[Rausch]

Something tells me this guy will turn into the best player we get out of this draft

What pisses me off is he could easily push T-Jack to the permanent bench...

[Dante84]

But he's so cute and lovable!!!

[benchedpunter]

Bailey is big strong and talented. Could he be one of those guys who reaches his potential in the NFL?

[keg in kc]

I'm starting to wonder what Bailey's going to be in, say, 2013, whether he'll be a 3-4 end, slim down to be an OLB or bulk up to be a NT. It's going to be interesting to see where this goes.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

I guess the Chiefs are going to kick our ass this year.

Fixed

[cabletech94]

Fixed

twice.
hard.

[OmahaChief]

IMHO, all Hurricane players are mentally challenged. They don't appear to be the sharpest knives in the drawer.

They sure do make good pro bowler players.

As for Bailey being mentally challenged that is far from the case. He is a pretty intelligent young man. The fact that he lived on Sapelo Island and lived off the land with his family seems to mean to a lot of people that he is some type of idiot.

I follow the Canes and can tell you at times Bailey fits the bill of looks like Tarzan plays like Jan and at other times he looks like the type of guy that kills gators with a shovel. I have seen him totally dominate games and be totally shut down. He is somewhat of an enigma.

He came to Miami becuase they promised him the chance to be a linebacker. They felt he was a little too stiff and due to injuries moved him to DE then due to more injuries he was asked to play the middle. He never really got a fair shake and under the watch of Randy Shannon most of the Canes players did not get any better. Shannon and his coaching staff did not teach fundementals very well and really hurt the team.

I think if given the chance to work with the NFL guys and get a position he can stay at he will be a hell of a player. He is the type of guy that can rip the arm off a QB and beat them with is and that is what excites me about Bailey.

[suzzer99]

Country Strong!

[ChiefMojo]

What I love about Bailey is that he gives us a inside rusher right off the bat in a Nickel package. He can hopefully be developed into something permanent within the next couple of seasons... if that is 3-4 DE, 3-4 OLB or just strictly a pass rush specialist which we will have him doing right off the bat.

Look at it this way, with the base we have up front at 3-4 DE, adding someone like Bailey only makes your team that much tougher to defend and stop. I wish it wasn't the case, but T-Jack may just be a two down 5-Tech for the rest of his career?

[Huffman83]

http://www.thepostgame.com/features/201104/allen-bailey-nfl-draft-kansas-city-chiefs-miami-hurricanes-sapelo-island

Front page of Yahoo today.

[milkman]

So. I'm guessing "Country" is the nickname.

[milkman]

So. I'm guessing "Country" is the nickname.

http://www.thepostgame.com/features/201104/allen-bailey-nfl-draft-kansas-city-chiefs-miami-hurricanes-sapelo-island

Front page of Yahoo today.

Or, maybe "Jethro".

[Dante84]

"John Coffey"

[Dante84]

Okay, so, I keep watching video of this dude, and I can't help but think he would make a disgusting Inside Linebacker. He is a brick shithouse and would kill anyone that got "around" Powe (as if that's possible).

With Dorsey and T-Jax at DE in the 4-3, and Powe at Nose, I think we would be best served having this dude in the middle backer spot.

I am probably talking out my ass, but look how he runs! He reminds me of a poor man's Ray Lewis only 8 times stronger/bigger.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-draft/09000d5d81f23a4d/2011-Draft-Profile-DT-Allen-Bailey-Miami-Fla

[GordonGekko]

Okay, so, I keep watching video of this dude, and I can't help but think he would make a disgusting Inside Linebacker. He is a brick shithouse and would kill anyone that got "around" Powe (as if that's possible).


Agree, this guy could become an apex ILB

[Dawgsfan]

A surprising pick. But if you're going to take a raw D-line prospect, who better to coach him up than Romeo?

I followed allen's high school career and saw him in a number of games. He was a beast and he had a very good career at Miami. He wanted to play lb so bad so he started out there, but he grew into a dlineman. As a dlineman he is indeed raw, but you get him being coached by the right coach and the sky is the limit due to his physical ability. Allen also is very coachable and that will be big the next few years for him in order for him to reach his full potential.

[Ericgoodchief]

I followed allen's high school career and saw him in a number of games. He was a beast and he had a very good career at Miami. He wanted to play lb so bad so he started out there, but he grew into a dlineman. As a dlineman he is indeed raw, but you get him being coached by the right coach and the sky is the limit due to his physical ability. Allen also is very coachable and that will be big the next few years for him in order for him to reach his full potential.

Can he play linebacker still? Reminds me of the Alabama linebacker the Raiders took last year.

[beach tribe]

The most overrated ****ing line of the draft.

"This pick could mean that x player is a one contract guy"

It means that the team takes players for depth and rotations.

It's ****ing dumb.

"Baldwin could mean Bowe's gone when his contract is up"

"Houston could mean that Hali is gone after next year"

Now we get this one.

Jesus Christ.

You forgot about Carr. We picked aCB in the 4th, so now Carr is a gonner.

Always Doom, and Gloom.

[Hammock Parties]

Um, Jesus Christ.

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[boogblaster]

he likes his raccon-meat and fried okra .. he'll do fine ...

[MOhillbilly]

I guess the Chiefs are going another year without a NT. LMAO

jokes on you.

[mcaj22]

this is my favorite pick of the draft because he's just a huge dude and has a chance to find a niche at multiple positions for this defense and offer something very unique.

I think this guy will end up being what everyone thought Vernon Gholston was going to be.

[banyon]

This guy is such a freak.



Highest vert from Miami EVER and he weighs just under 300lbs?????!!!!

Wonder if we could put him in some red zone packages at TE?

[Dante84]

Wonder if we could put him in some red zone packages at TE?

I think thats what Gabe Miller will do.

[xztop12]

Im still confused about the 200 pound DB we got from Colorado. Theres a video of him squatting 620 lbs... Allen Baileys max is 585 on kcchiefs

[Fat Elvis]

8%.

8% body fat on a guy that weighs nearly 300 lbs.

Unreal.

[notorious]

8%.

8% body fat on a guy that weighs nearly 300 lbs.

Unreal.


JFC

That is sick. The guy has to eat a shitload of protein a day just to maintain that muscle mass.

Around 250-300 grams.

[RealSNR]

At first I saw his size and thought 5-tech.

Now I'm watching him play with his jaw-dropping athleticism and I'm not so sure he wouldn't be able to stand up and rush the passer from the outside. His size and strength AND speed make him nearly fucking unblockable

[philfree]

I can see some of the Arrowhead faithful serving up some Racoon at their tailgate party in honor of Bailey. Mmm Mmmm good!

PhilFree:arrow:

[nascher]

actually Carr is a FA he could be gone but i doubt it that Pioli doesn't resign him.

Hali and Bowe are going nowhere Hali is Franchised and both sides said numerous times they are working on a longtime contract extension and Bowe is under Contract.

[Marcellus]

John Coffey.

[Tribal Warfare]

John Coffey.

I'm gonna call him Country because of where he's from

[notorious]

John Coffey.

Maybe we should bring Croyle back and have him do that trick where he pulls all the sickness and injury out of someone's body.


He could blow all of the Brokie Injury demons into Phillip Rivers when he sacks him.

[Ericgoodchief]

JFC

That is sick. The guy has to eat a shitload of protein a day just to maintain that muscle mass.

Around 250-300 grams.

Good point. I am wondering what he eats daily and if he does hours on the exercise bike.

[Marcellus]

Good point. I am wondering what he eats daily and if he does hours on the exercise bike.

Exercise bike? Really?

[mcaj22]

this dude's version of an exercise bike is giving his best Flintstones impression on a fanboat in the dirty swamps without the propeller

[Dante84]

John Coffey.

Been saying that since we drafted him.

[Dante84]

I just watched the highlights from the Ravens game in the "Berry" thread, and it got me thinking.

TE's just killed us all year. Our coverage was lock-down on the corners and deep. Our Run-D was infinitely better this year. It was just the TE's & big WR's across the short middle that killed us all year.

Maybe Bailey's role will be to jam the TE's at the line on those plays where a TE is likely to try a short middle route? Put him square up on the TE on those 3rd and 5-10 yard situations. He would knock the shit out of them, messing up the timing, and allowing Tamba/Houston to get in and wreck shit.

[MIAdragon]

Exercise bike? Really?

I know right!? Im sure he prefers the elliptical machine.

[Frankie]

JFC

That is sick. The guy has to eat a shitload of protein a day just to maintain that muscle mass.

Around 250-300 grams.

Or HGH? just saying.

[Frankie]

Maybe we should bring Croyle back and have him do that trick where he pulls all the sickness and injury out of someone's body.


He could blow all of the Brokie Injury demons into Phillip Rivers when he sacks him.

ROFL I should not laugh, but it's funny.

[Hammock Parties]

hhnnnnnnnnggggggggg

http://media.kansascity.com/smedia/2011/04/29/23/Alan_Bailey_of_Miami_04-30-2011_7I1LA73M.standalone.prod_affiliate.81.jpg

[DJ's left nut]

Okay, so, I keep watching video of this dude, and I can't help but think he would make a disgusting Inside Linebacker. He is a brick shithouse and would kill anyone that got "around" Powe (as if that's possible).

With Dorsey and T-Jax at DE in the 4-3, and Powe at Nose, I think we would be best served having this dude in the middle backer spot.

I am probably talking out my ass, but look how he runs! He reminds me of a poor man's Ray Lewis only 8 times stronger/bigger.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-draft/09000d5d81f23a4d/2011-Draft-Profile-DT-Allen-Bailey-Miami-Fla

I see him getting plunger raped if asked to cover the middle of the field.

I can't understand how this guy isn't a perfect 5-tech.

He's huge, he's strong as hell and he's athletic as hell. He's not terribly agile and some question his football IQ. It seems like his strengths are all vital to an excellent 5 tech and his weaknesses are all compounded by playing linebacker.

He appears to be a perfect fit for a 5-tech and a guy that's likely to be as good as Jackson almost immediately.

[Los Pollos Hermanos]

Um, Jesus Christ.

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That QB should have thrown that to Baldwin. TD!

[beach tribe]

I just watched the highlights from the Ravens game in the "Berry" thread, and it got me thinking.

TE's just killed us all year. Our coverage was lock-down on the corners and deep. Our Run-D was infinitely better this year. It was just the TE's & big WR's across the short middle that killed us all year.

Maybe Bailey's role will be to jam the TE's at the line on those plays where a TE is likely to try a short middle route? Put him square up on the TE on those 3rd and 5-10 yard situations. He would knock the shit out of them, messing up the timing, and allowing Tamba/Houston to get in and wreck shit.

I said in the draft thread that I believe that's why they drafted a big physical CB in Jalil Brown. Big, and strong enough to jam TEs at the line of scrimmage, and has the cover skills to cover receiving TEs like Gates.
His size will eliminate the match up problems we've been having with TEs, and allow us to send Hali, and Houston after the QB.
Good plan if you ask me.

[raybec 4]

I see him getting plunger raped if asked to cover the middle of the field.

I can't understand how this guy isn't a perfect 5-tech.

He's huge, he's strong as hell and he's athletic as hell. He's not terribly agile and some question his football IQ. It seems like his strengths are all vital to an excellent 5 tech and his weaknesses are all compounded by playing linebacker.

He appears to be a perfect fit for a 5-tech and a guy that's likely to be as good as Jackson almost immediately.

Unless we can get Krummie back to get the slap drill going he'll never be a good 5 tech.

[Hammock Parties]

I see him getting plunger raped if asked to cover the middle of the field.

I can't understand how this guy isn't a perfect 5-tech.

He's huge, he's strong as hell and he's athletic as hell. He's not terribly agile and some question his football IQ. It seems like his strengths are all vital to an excellent 5 tech and his weaknesses are all compounded by playing linebacker.

He appears to be a perfect fit for a 5-tech and a guy that's likely to be as good as Jackson almost immediately.

He is not going to play ILB.

He's going to be one of these three things or a combination:

1. 5-tech
2. Inside nickel pass rusher
3. OLB

Pioli said he was a potential OLB prospect.

[-King-]

His vertical was only 5.5 inches lower than Baldwins ROFL ROFL Thats just ridiculous.

[buddha]

I forsee Five Tech for this beast. There are plenty of guys you can use for coverage without trying to bang this square peg into that round hole. I think Jackson had better get his shit together very, very quickly.

[DJ's left nut]

I forsee Five Tech for this beast. There are plenty of guys you can use for coverage without trying to bang this square peg into that round hole. I think Jackson had better get his shit together very, very quickly.

That's my thought.

The guy is a turnkey 5-tech. Teach him to get off the line better and run straight into 2 guys each play. Even if he never learns to rush the passer, his strength and size along should occupy two blockers.

He should be immediately capable of contributing as a 5-tech and could develop into an elite one.

[Chiefnj2]

He's a 280 + pound non-instinctive player who is known primarily for his bullrush. He's a 5 tech.

[DJ's left nut]

He's a 280 + pound non-instinctive player who is known primarily for his bullrush. He's a 5 tech.

So do you have faith in Jackson to develop? Is so, do you consider bulking up Dorsey to play the nose?

If nothing else, we seem to have a good rotation put together, no? If Powe can play 1st and 2nd down, you can move Dorsey to NT on passing downs alongside Jackson and Bailey to push upfield.

[Chiefnj2]

So do you have faith in Jackson to develop? Is so, do you consider bulking up Dorsey to play the nose?

If nothing else, we seem to have a good rotation put together, no? If Powe can play 1st and 2nd down, you can move Dorsey to NT on passing downs alongside Jackson and Bailey to push upfield.

I wouldn't move Dorsey. Let Bailey rotate in for Dorsey and T Jax. Powe can back up Smith for a year or two. Pass rush should be (L to R) Gilberry, Bailey, Dorsey.

[ChiefsCountry]

So do you have faith in Jackson to develop? Is so, do you consider bulking up Dorsey to play the nose?

If nothing else, we seem to have a good rotation put together, no? If Powe can play 1st and 2nd down, you can move Dorsey to NT on passing downs alongside Jackson and Bailey to push upfield.

Jackson gets pulled and Gillberry comes in that scenario. Dorsey at Nose with Bailey and Giberry on the sides. With Hali and Houston coming from the outside.

[Hammock Parties]

Our nickel rush is going to be

Hali Dorsey Gilberry Houston

That is damn fine, son.

[tyton75]

I'm hearing some say that the plan may very well be to move Dorsey to nose, at least in the rotation at nose

[HotRoute]

I'm hearing some say that the plan may very well be to move Dorsey to nose, at least in the rotation at nose

I would be hesitant to do this since he has just started to prove he can be a good DE

[DJ's left nut]

I would be hesitant to do this since he has just started to prove he can be a good DE

He's proven he can play DE at an acceptable level; that he's an NFL caliber starting 3-4 DE.

But I won't say 'good'. If they think they can put him at the NT, keep his quickness and help him possibly reach the potential he had as the #5 overall pick, I'd certainly like to see it tried.

He's a nice player and certainly not a 'bust'. But he's not an impact guy either. If they think they can get more out of him at the nose, he's not been so great at DE that I wouldn't make the move for fear of messing him up.

[philfree]

I'm hearing some say that the plan may very well be to move Dorsey to nose, at least in the rotation at nose

I read a rumor on ESPN that Atlanta wants to trade for Dorsey. :shrug: Don't know what they have left to trade. Of course this would be after the league is open for business.


PhilFree:arrow:

[Saul Good]

The guy's got to learn to get off the line more quickly if he's going to be worth a shit. The guy screams Vernon Gholston to me.

[Chiefnj2]

He's not been so great at DE that I wouldn't make the move for fear of messing him up.

He was as good as he could be considering the rest of the DL.

[HotRoute]

I read a rumor on ESPN that Atlanta wants to trade for Dorsey. :shrug: Don't know what they have left to trade. Of course this would be after the league is open for business.


PhilFree:arrow:

HELL NO!!!

[Los Pollos Hermanos]

I read a rumor on ESPN that Atlanta wants to trade for Dorsey. :shrug: Don't know what they have left to trade. Of course this would be after the league is open for business.


PhilFree:arrow:

Dorsey for Ryan.

[HotRoute]

Dorsey for Ryan.

Dimitrioff would be trying to make up for trading so many picks by trading more of them?? (I doubt it) I dont see many players on their roster that be worth Dorsey's value

[Hammock Parties]

There is no fucking way we should trade Dorsey. He is the best defensive lineman we have and our run defense would suffer greatly without him.

[HotRoute]

There is no ****ing way we should trade Dorsey. He is the best defensive lineman we have and our run defense would suffer greatly without him.

Exactly not to mention, Trade talks at this point in time are meaningless.

The CBA and lockout should be priority #1

[TheGuardian]

We're not trading Dorsey.

He won't be moved to nose tackle.

Back to reality folks.

[HotRoute]

We're not trading Dorsey.

He won't be moved to nose tackle.

Back to reality folks.

exactly

[Frankie]

I read a rumor on ESPN that Atlanta wants to trade for Dorsey. :shrug: Don't know what they have left to trade.

The fact that Atlanta seems to be trying for a big Super Bowl run this year (evident by their expensive trade to draft Jones) makes this plausible. I like Dorsey enough, but I don't see him as irreplaceable. And he is a bit of a fish out of water in our D system. For the right price from a motivated buyer like Atlanta I wouldn't mind seeing him go.

[Frankie]

We're not trading Dorsey.

He won't be moved to nose tackle.

Back to reality folks.

I think this is closest to facts.

[Bill Lundberg]

And he is a bit of a fish out of water in our D system.

:spock:He's a pretty badass fish out of water. I'd love to see what he could do "in water"...

[Frankie]

:spock:He's a pretty badass fish out of water. I'd love to see what he could do "in water"...

I didn't use the best analogy. He has done very well with what he's been dealt. But I don't think he exactly has the body type or the background to play a 34 DE. Nor can he have enough bulk to play NT.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Trading Dorsey would be the height of stupidity. I'd rather cut Jackson than trade Dorsey for a 1st.

[LiL stumppy]

He's proven he can play DE at an acceptable level; that he's an NFL caliber starting 3-4 DE.

But I won't say 'good'. If they think they can put him at the NT, keep his quickness and help him possibly reach the potential he had as the #5 overall pick, I'd certainly like to see it tried.

He's a nice player and certainly not a 'bust'. But he's not an impact guy either. If they think they can get more out of him at the nose, he's not been so great at DE that I wouldn't make the move for fear of messing him up.

Dorsey has performed very well. I don't any 3-4 DE is worthy of a top 5, so that is a moot point.

He has been very good there, you wont be able top judge by his stats how well he has played, that's not his job.

[milkman]

I wouldn't move Dorsey. Let Bailey rotate in for Dorsey and T Jax. Powe can back up Smith for a year or two. Pass rush should be (L to R) Gilberry, Bailey, Dorsey.

Smith played almost exclusively at DE last year.

He didn't play well on the interior in the previous couple of years.

[Hammock Parties]

lolwut?

Round 3: Allen Bailey, DE, Miami
The 280-pound Bailey may have some trouble fitting into the Chiefs’ 3-4 defense. Most likely, his duties will be on special teams in 2011, while the Chiefs training staff work with him on adding a little bulk.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Wow, who wrote that bit?

[OnTheWarpath15]

LMAO

Adding bulk?

[xztop12]

I really wouldn't mind seeing how much weight Bailey can add. He might be able to get up to 310 and still move

[Hammock Parties]

Wow, who wrote that bit?

It was on Pro Football Focus.

[Hammock Parties]

I really wouldn't mind seeing how much weight Bailey can add. He might be able to get up to 310 and still move

When most players add weight they want to add muscle.

Bailey already has the musculature of most 300+ pounders.

I wonder if adding a gut would just make him slower.

He could be a John Randle type player.

http://www.bestsportsphotos.com/files/t_33503.jpg

[tonyetony]

I watched the game again this morning and isolated on him and thought his play is pretty comparable to Tyson Jackson's. He played a lot of snaps last night and was held quite a bit so he definitely needs to develop a rip move. He will be getting more playing time than special teams this year I guarantee it.

Bulking up???? WTF chuck.

[suzzer99]

Country Strong!

[Direckshun]

I watched the game again this morning and isolated on him and thought his play is pretty comparable to Tyson Jackson's. He played a lot of snaps last night and was held quite a bit so he definitely needs to develop a rip move. He will be getting more playing time than special teams this year I guarantee it.

Bulking up???? WTF chuck.

I'm digging you, bro. Love you studying the tape.

Bailey CANNOT ADD bulk. His body is literally maxed out.

He can get stronger, but there's no more room for muscle on the guy.

[suzzer99]

You're forgetting the power of grits and pork butt. Country strong can always get stronger.

[KurtCobain]

Bailey is a huge fool. If they want him to bulk up, they might as well just duck tape bricks under his jersey.

[Rausch]

He could be a John Randle type player.

http://www.bestsportsphotos.com/files/t_33503.jpg

I'm good with that...

[Bump]

When most players add weight they want to add muscle.

Bailey already has the musculature of most 300+ pounders.

I wonder if adding a gut would just make him slower.

He could be a John Randle type player.

http://www.bestsportsphotos.com/files/t_33503.jpg

a John Randle type player? So he could be like the best DT ever?

[Hammock Parties]

a John Randle type player? So he could be like the best DT ever?

He could be like a Vernon Gholston type player.

http://photo.the-ozone.net/photos/2007_2008/Football/07-09-01-FB-0080.jpg

[Okie_Apparition]

Rock-a-dile Red in Kickapoo Joy Juice with his fried possum

[Hammock Parties]

Allen Bailey can't even play special teams right. What a turd of a third rounder.

http://i.imgur.com/l3jak.gif

[TinyEvel]

Coaching.

[rabblerouser]

Allen Bailey can't even play special teams right. What a turd of a third rounder.

http://i.imgur.com/l3jak.gif

Epic fail.

that's, what, 3 1st rders and a 3rd on the D-line...and they're atrocious??

wtf???

Coaching.

Nah, that wasn't a shitty angle or bad technique - dude just has no real instinct for the game, no ball awareness, no nasty disposition, no tenacity....no nothing. LOTS of possible plays are there for him, but he can't even move a blocker, much less shed one or blow one up.

Look at that .gif above - he just stands there like a combination of the scarecrowe before Dorothy let him down, and the Tin Man before she oiled him. He just plain whiffs the block, like he forgot there was a ball carrier behind him. And I don't care if you're running a one-gap, two-gap, tampa 2, ****ing 46, or special gd teams, NO coach teaches a defender to just stand there and kinda look lost until you make a post-ditch effore to maybe redirect the ball carrier...

No, that's not coaching. the guy is horrible.

Bill Walsh wouldn't have been able to turn Cassel into a real qb; Buddy Ryan probably woulda cut Allen Baily after trying to trade him for any draft pick and a case of beer.

a pig with lipstick is still a pig; The reason Haley went batshit crazy is because his roster was full of shitpig players, complete wastes of space like Allen Bailey, Reshard Langford, Sabby Piscatelli, and Tyler Palko. Total 'pigs in lipstick' that no coach can do anything with.

[MotherfuckerJones]

That pussy is scared to block omfg!

[Pasta Little Brioni]

The board practically blew their loads all over the place when they drafted him, so it's kind of hard to be too mad about the selection.

[aturnis]

Epic fail.

that's, what, 3 1st rders and a 3rd on the D-line...and they're atrocious??

wtf???



Nah, that wasn't a shitty angle or bad technique - dude just has no real instinct for the game, no ball awareness, no nasty disposition, no tenacity....no nothing. LOTS of possible plays are there for him, but he can't even move a blocker, much less shed one or blow one up.

Look at that .gif above - he just stands there like a combination of the scarecrowe before Dorothy let him down, and the Tin Man before she oiled him. He just plain whiffs the block, like he forgot there was a ball carrier behind him. And I don't care if you're running a one-gap, two-gap, tampa 2, ****ing 46, or special gd teams, NO coach teaches a defender to just stand there and kinda look lost until you make a post-ditch effore to maybe redirect the ball carrier...

No, that's not coaching. the guy is horrible.

Bill Walsh wouldn't have been able to turn Cassel into a real qb; Buddy Ryan probably woulda cut Allen Baily after trying to trade him for any draft pick and a case of beer.

a pig with lipstick is still a pig; The reason Haley went batshit crazy is because his roster was full of shitpig players, complete wastes of space like Allen Bailey, Reshard Langford, Sabby Piscatelli, and Tyler Palko. Total 'pigs in lipstick' that no coach can do anything with.

No, it's coaching. Players follow a lead. Romeo can't get any tenacity, heart or discipline from his players. Players who we've seen all these qualities from in the past. Romeo is not a head coach, plain and simple.

[Hammock Parties]

The board practically blew their loads all over the place when they drafted him, so it's kind of hard to be too mad about the selection.

No it's not.

Just another bad pick.

Fuck bad picks.

I was happy with the pick but he's been abysmal. Pioli is paid to get this shit right, not make fans happy for a few months based on a player's body fat percentage.

[J Diddy]

No, it's coaching. Players follow a lead. Romeo can't get any tenacity, heart or discipline from his players. Players who we've seen all these qualities from in the past. Romeo is not a head coach, plain and simple.

I would have to agree. Hailey, vermeil, and herm at least got something from most of their players. Romeo has them coasting.

[rabblerouser]

No, it's coaching. Players follow a lead. Romeo can't get any tenacity, heart or discipline from his players. Players who we've seen all these qualities from in the past. Romeo is not a head coach, plain and simple.


dude, this team is such a classic 'chicken-or-the-egg' dilemna. I'm so shellshocked, but I know you're right. RAC was a terrible coach in Cleveland, and he's ****ing terrible here. Pioli could've traded up for Andrew Luck and he would look like shit right now, because this team is in such unorganized disarray...

it's stunning, the amount of epic fail from the top to bottom of the organization.

I would have to agree. Hailey, vermeil, and herm at least got something from most of their players. Romeo has them coasting.

It's true.

The difference in talent between this team and the 2-14 is unparralled - this team has WAY more top-end talent...and may not match the 2008 record.

Haley told Brian Waters he could 'win 2 games with guys off the street', and I think he meant it....

I don't think RAC can win 2 games this year, period.

[aturnis]

Remember early in the offseason when Romeo changed the schedule? Said it was "inefficient" and guys didn’t know where to be. Now they have the same schedule every day...

I'm thinking that Haley custom tailored practices and classroom sessions notnonly to the team, but to the player. What they NEEDED to work on, they did. Players struggling with their assignments in the running game one week might spend more time focusing on that with a coach the next week.

Romeo's "one size fits all", everyone knows where they need to be approach isn't working. I think that is a large part of things, along with lack of discipline and direction.

[Red Beans]

Romeo's "one size fits all", everyone knows where they need to be approach isn't working. I think that is a large part of things, along with lack of discipline and direction.

Romeo's used to one size fits all clothing, and clearly that passion has translated over to coaching the team...

[Saccopoo]

dude, this team is such a classic 'chicken-or-the-egg' dilemna. I'm so shellshocked, but I know you're right. RAC was a terrible coach in Cleveland, and he's ****ing terrible here. Pioli could've traded up for Andrew Luck and he would look like shit right now, because this team is in such unorganized disarray...

And there it is.

Truth.

Imagine RAC and Daboll "coaching up" Luck.

I don't want these guys around whoever we draft as our QB in the first round in 2013. (And I'm telling you right now, the pressure to draft a first round QB is immense for the Chiefs. You see the factoids about the lack of a 1st round QB for the Chiefs since whenever every single game. The fan base demands it. Hunt will lose thousands of seats if he doesn't, and stands to gain thousands of seats if he does.)

I personally think Geno Smith has the biggest upside of any QB in the 2013 draft, but at this point, I really don't care if it's Barkley, Wilson or whoever. It's got to happen.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

This pick just screams Egoli.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand Pioli just JIHP'd