AFC West Draft grades according to the fans

[Quesadilla Joe]

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http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/polls

[kstater]

Congratulations?

[DeezNutz]

9 sites say that this data is worthless.

[Bowser]

TROLLTASTIC!!

[DeezNutz]

Ooooops. Charles just broke it off. Again.

[stonedstooge]

Poll taken in Denver?

[BossChief]

Has there ever been as much time wasted on the Planet as reading things this guy posts and people replying to them?

Shit, I just did it again.

[Spott]

cutler7624regurgitatesdirtydouches

[milkman]

Proof positive that average fan is almost as stupid as you.

[kysirsoze]

You drafted the biggest name in Miller and the fucking dipshits who vote on sports nation picked by the one name on the poll. What a fucking useless troll you are.

[kstater]

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[CaliforniaChief]

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ROFL

[DaFace]

Time to lose your thread privs again?
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[Pasta Little Brioni]

Denver's draft was an abortion ROFL Damn, they are going to be raped by the other AFC West run games. That is one soft front.

[SDChiefs]

You had the number two pick. Obviously ppl are gonna like your guys more. But tbh im sad to see mcdaniels go because you're not drafting like complete tools anymore. But wait, mcdaniels is the next big thing. My bad homo... err.. nomo

[milkman]

You had the number two pick. Obviously ppl are gonna like your guys more. But tbh im sad to see mcdaniels go because you're not drafting like complete tools anymore. But wait, mcdaniels is the next big thing. My bad homo... err.. nomo

After Miller, their draft was the work you'd expect from a complete tool.

[siberian khatru]

Time to lose your thread privs again?
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:grovel:

[GordonGekko]

Lol, Maine and Alaska forgot to participate

Nice to see Kansas getting Missouri's back

Now they should make a "Who is going to win the AFC West next year" fan poll

[Quesadilla Joe]

Time to lose your thread privs again?
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Come on man. I never start Bronco threads. I just read everyone on Chiefsplanet rip every pick Denver made for the past 3 days and wanted to show CP what people who don't have a bias think.

[Captain Obvious]

Who cares what SportsNation says, I want to know what is being said on Twatter.

[T-post Tom]

You drafted the biggest name in Miller and the ****ing dipshits who vote on sports nation picked by the one name on the poll. What a ****ing useless troll you are.

Name recognition, for sure. That's what you get when you have the #2 overall pick.

[DaFace]

Come on man. I never start Bronco threads. I just read everyone on Chiefsplanet rip every pick Denver made for the past 3 days and wanted to show CP what people who don't have a bias think.
You have my permission to go to a Broncos board.
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[milkman]

Come on man. I never start Bronco threads. I just read everyone on Chiefsplanet rip every pick Denver made for the past 3 days and wanted to show CP what people who don't have a bias think.

And why do you think we would give a rat's ass about a poll of fans, who probably never heard of anyone outside of the top 10 or 20, think?

The only thing more stupid than thinking we might give a rat's ass is that.....

Well, not a damn thing, until your next stupid post.

[|Zach|]

SPORTSNATION CHAMPS.

[|Zach|]

Come on man. I never start Bronco threads. I just read everyone on Chiefsplanet rip every pick Denver made for the past 3 days and wanted to show CP what people who don't have a bias think.

Does this mean you will watch the games this year?
LMAO

[The Bad Guy]

Come on man. I never start Bronco threads. I just read everyone on Chiefsplanet rip every pick Denver made for the past 3 days and wanted to show CP what people who don't have a bias think.

You really think the tools that take the time to vote on ESPN for those things are knowledgable? They see Von Miller's name, and the fact he was the 2nd pick, and that's what they are going to base it on.

[RealSNR]

Come on man. I never start Bronco threads. I just read everyone on Chiefsplanet rip every pick Denver made for the past 3 days and wanted to show CP what people who don't have a bias think.What Bronco forums do you read? Go hang over there.

[Ebolapox]

heh, dipshit shouldn't have thread privileges.

[Chiefs=Champions]

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LMAO ROFL

[Bowser]

There's one reason to watch SportsNation -

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[DaFace]

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[RealSNR]

There's one reason to watch SportsNation -

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Heh. And here I was thinking I was the only man on earth who had a thing for Beadle

[kysirsoze]

Heh. And here I was thinking I was the only man on earth who had a thing for Beadle

If you are a straight male sports fan, how could you not?

[noa]

OMG YOU GUYS PEOPLE IN THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST THINK WE HAD A BAD DRAFT SHOULD WE UNDO IT?

[Chiefshrink]

Let's just say that out here in "donkey dung land" outside of the Miller pick the sportsmedia and diehard fans are scratching their heads very hard why Elway and crew did not draft any DTs.

Looks like we will still be able run up the middle and even moreso now with our revamped interior line.

[-King-]

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Damn. Thats kind of harsh. Dont do that to knowmo!

[suzzer99]

I think KnowMo has that Andy Kaufman/Tom Greene disease where he thrives on pissing off large groups of people.

[Ugly Duck]

CBS Senior Writer Pete Prisco Final Draft Grades

San Diego Chargers B+

Best pick: Second-round pick Marcus Gilchrist can play either corner or safety and he's a smart player. I think he starts by his second year.

Questionable move: They took linebacker Jonas Mouton in the second round, even though he was considered a late-round guy. There were better options on the board.

Third-day gem: I like sixth-round guard Steve Schilling. He is a fighter who fits what the Chargers want from their linemen.

Analysis: The Chargers had a lot of picks and used them wisely. They needed to upgrade the defense and they did that. First-round pick Corey Liuget should be an immediate starter.


Denver Broncos B-

Best pick: Second-round pick Rahim Moore is a safety with range. That's the kind you need in this modern NFL filled with passing.

Questionable move: Passing on Marcell Dareus to take Von Miller is questionable with their big hole inside on their defense.

Third-day gem: Fourth-round pick Julius Thomas is a tight end who is a former basketball player. That means he has the athletic ability to get down the field.

Analysis: John Elway's first draft was solid. He made moves to fix a defense that needed it badly. If first-round pick Von Miller is an explosive pass rusher, this will be a nice draft.

Oakland Raiders C

Best pick: I love third-round pick Joseph Barksdale. He played left tackle at LSU, but will play the right side or guard for the Raiders.

Questionable move: Taking DeMarcus Van Dyke in the third round is a risk. He has great speed, but he is thin. But then again, Al Davis loves speed.

Third-day gem: Fourth-round corner Chimdi Chekwa is a real steal. He will be a better player than Van Dyke.

Analysis: They traded their first-round pick to get Richard Seymour, so they had to wait until the second round. In typical Davis fashion, they took a lot of speed and tough guys.


Kansas City Chiefs C-

Best pick: Rodney Hudson, their second-round pick, was a guard in college but likely will move to center in the NFL. He could be a dominant one because of his quickness.

Questionable move: Taking two character players in first-round pick Jonathan Baldwin and Justin Houston. Better hope they can stay clear of trouble.

Third-day gem: I love the pick of Ricky Stanzi in the fifth round. He is a nice backup now and could be more down the road.

Analysis: This could be a great draft if the two troubled players stay clear of it. If not, then it will be a bad one.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/story/15008226/final-draft-grades-bucs-giants-texans-earn-top-marks

[RealSNR]

Troubled players!!!!! OH NOOO!!!!!!! WHO WILL SAVE US!!????

OHHH THE HUMANITY!!! AAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHUGH!!!!!

[Bowser]

Analysis: This could be a great draft if the two troubled players stay clear of it. If not, then it will be a bad one.

Well thank you for not choking on your latest bag of shit so you could enlighten us with that knowledge, Pete.

[BryanBusby]

San Diego Chargers B+

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I really don't see how the fuck Julius Thomas is a 3rd day gem. *fap* *fap* BASKETBALL PLAYER, NEXT GATES LMAO -John Elway

Outside of the fact that he is an athletic Tight End that played basketball, what the fuck does he bring to the table?

[milkman]

Prisco is another idiot that has no business in the sports business.

[noa]

CBS Analysis: If the Chiefs got good players in this draft then it was a good draft. But if they got bad players, then it was a bad draft.

[Ugly Duck]

You drafted troubled players! Your draftees are troubled!

[Bowser]

CBS Senior Writer Pete Prisco Final Draft Grades

San Diego Chargers B+

Best pick: Second-round pick Marcus Gilchrist can play either corner or safety and he's a smart player. I think he starts by his second year.

Questionable move: They took linebacker Jonas Mouton in the second round, even though he was considered a late-round guy. There were better options on the board.

Third-day gem: I like sixth-round guard Steve Schilling. He is a fighter who fits what the Chargers want from their linemen.

Analysis: The Chargers had a lot of picks and used them wisely. They needed to upgrade the defense and they did that. First-round pick Corey Liuget should be an immediate starter.


Denver Broncos B-

Best pick: Second-round pick Rahim Moore is a safety with range. That's the kind you need in this modern NFL filled with passing.

Questionable move: Passing on Marcell Dareus to take Von Miller is questionable with their big hole inside on their defense.

Third-day gem: Fourth-round pick Julius Thomas is a tight end who is a former basketball player. That means he has the athletic ability to get down the field.

Analysis: John Elway's first draft was solid. He made moves to fix a defense that needed it badly. If first-round pick Von Miller is an explosive pass rusher, this will be a nice draft.

Oakland Raiders C

Best pick: I love third-round pick Joseph Barksdale. He played left tackle at LSU, but will play the right side or guard for the Raiders.

Questionable move: Taking DeMarcus Van Dyke in the third round is a risk. He has great speed, but he is thin. But then again, Al Davis loves speed.

Third-day gem: Fourth-round corner Chimdi Chekwa is a real steal. He will be a better player than Van Dyke.

Analysis: They traded their first-round pick to get Richard Seymour, so they had to wait until the second round. In typical Davis fashion, they took a lot of speed and tough guys.


Kansas City Chiefs C-

Best pick: Rodney Hudson, their second-round pick, was a guard in college but likely will move to center in the NFL. He could be a dominant one because of his quickness.

Questionable move: Taking two character players in first-round pick Jonathan Baldwin and Justin Houston. Better hope they can stay clear of trouble.

Third-day gem: I love the pick of Ricky Stanzi in the fifth round. He is a nice backup now and could be more down the road.

Analysis: This could be a great draft if the two troubled players stay clear of it. If not, then it will be a bad one.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/story/15008226/final-draft-grades-bucs-giants-texans-earn-top-marks

Prisco makes me want to go club baby seals.

[Gadzooks]

Woopdeedoo, we get the top grade from Prisco.PBJ

[-King-]

Analysis: This could be a great draft if the two troubled players stay clear of it. If not, then it will be a bad one.

Damn! Insider type information here fellas.

[SDChiefs]

CBS Senior Writer Pete Prisco Final Draft Grades

San Diego Chargers B+

Best pick: Second-round pick Marcus Gilchrist can play either corner or safety and he's a smart player. I think he starts by his second year.

Questionable move: They took linebacker Jonas Mouton in the second round, even though he was considered a late-round guy. There were better options on the board.

Third-day gem: I like sixth-round guard Steve Schilling. He is a fighter who fits what the Chargers want from their linemen.

Analysis: The Chargers had a lot of picks and used them wisely. They needed to upgrade the defense and they did that. First-round pick Corey Liuget should be an immediate starter.


Denver Broncos B-

Best pick: Second-round pick Rahim Moore is a safety with range. That's the kind you need in this modern NFL filled with passing.

Questionable move: Passing on Marcell Dareus to take Von Miller is questionable with their big hole inside on their defense.

Third-day gem: Fourth-round pick Julius Thomas is a tight end who is a former basketball player. That means he has the athletic ability to get down the field.

Analysis: John Elway's first draft was solid. He made moves to fix a defense that needed it badly. If first-round pick Von Miller is an explosive pass rusher, this will be a nice draft.

Oakland Raiders C

Best pick: I love third-round pick Joseph Barksdale. He played left tackle at LSU, but will play the right side or guard for the Raiders.

Questionable move: Taking DeMarcus Van Dyke in the third round is a risk. He has great speed, but he is thin. But then again, Al Davis loves speed.

Third-day gem: Fourth-round corner Chimdi Chekwa is a real steal. He will be a better player than Van Dyke.

Analysis: They traded their first-round pick to get Richard Seymour, so they had to wait until the second round. In typical Davis fashion, they took a lot of speed and tough guys.


Kansas City Chiefs C-

Best pick: Rodney Hudson, their second-round pick, was a guard in college but likely will move to center in the NFL. He could be a dominant one because of his quickness.

Questionable move: Taking two character players in first-round pick Jonathan Baldwin and Justin Houston. Better hope they can stay clear of trouble.

Third-day gem: I love the pick of Ricky Stanzi in the fifth round. He is a nice backup now and could be more down the road.

Analysis: This could be a great draft if the two troubled players stay clear of it. If not, then it will be a bad one.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/story/15008226/final-draft-grades-bucs-giants-texans-earn-top-marks

Lmao. And I thought espn was bad.

[Ebolapox]

all I know is that charger fans I've talked to are pissed at AJ smith over this draft, and bronco fans are furious that they didn't pick any defensive tackles. couldn't talk to any raider fans cause I'm not a prison guard (hay hay, old joke)

[kysirsoze]

Damn! Insider type information here fellas.

Do I owe money for reading this?

[-King-]

Having a weapon in your house could be good if you don't kill yourself. But it could be bad if you kill yourself.

[Tombstone RJ]

pretty much everyone thinks kc had a subpar draft. Stanzi is an interesting pick, he could pan out and become the eventual starter. If not, he's a solid #2.

[RealSNR]

You drafted troubled players! Your draftees are troubled!

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[vailpass]

KnowMo continues to live inside many of your heads. LMAO

[Bowser]

Woopdeedoo, we get the top grade from Prisco.PBJ

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[RealSNR]

pretty much everyone thinks kc had a subpar draft. Stanzi is an interesting pick, he could pan out and become the eventual starter. If not, he's a solid #2.They got excellent value out of the first 3 rounds. Better than any team. They picked up an intriguing pick in Stanzi and got a NT with a 6th rounder.

BUT THEY'RE TROUBLED! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

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[Bowser]

pretty much everyone thinks kc had a subpar draft. Stanzi is an interesting pick, he could pan out and become the eventual starter. If not, he's a solid #2.I have no problem with people thinking that.

KnowMo continues to live inside many of your heads. LMAO

He's basically your everyday, run of the mill troll here in the lounge.

[Gadzooks]

Oh yeah, well... your players are troubled.

[RealSNR]

KnowMo continues to live inside many of your heads. LMAOYour children are retarded and your wife is fat

HAHAHAHHAA I LIVE IN YOUR HEAD

[Bowser]

Oh yeah, well... your players are troubled.

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[RealSNR]

I apologize, vailpass. It's these fucking troubled players we drafted. They're going to keep me up at night for years with worry

[RealSNR]

We're the Kansas City Bengals with all these troubled players on our team.

Oh well. At least that means we're guaranteed to beat the Broncos

[Quesadilla Joe]

Let's just say that out here in "donkey dung land" outside of the Miller pick the sportsmedia and diehard fans are scratching their heads very hard why Elway and crew did not draft any DTs.

Looks like we will still be able run up the middle and even moreso now with our revamped interior line.

Elway, Fox and Xanders said that they really wanted to come out of the draft with a DT and a RB but they were only going to draft the best player available. A couple of the DT's they expected to fall into the 2nd were picked in the first round.

They even said that they were seriously considering trading their two second round picks to get back up into the first round to grab a particular DT (didn't say who probably Fairley or Luiget) that was slipping but he didn't fall down far enough for them to be able to get a 4th and 5th round pick in the trade.

[Tombstone RJ]

They got excellent value out of the first 3 rounds. Better than any team. They picked up an intriguing pick in Stanzi and got a NT with a 6th rounder.

BUT THEY'RE TROUBLED! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

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I wonder if Bowe and Baldwin will become bff's

[vailpass]

I apologize, vailpass. It's these ****ing troubled players we drafted. They're going to keep me up at night for years with worry

If Denver drafted those same players 90% of this board would be ripping them new assholes.

And that is as it should be.

Hope springs eternal on draft day and your team's rookies who have never played a down of NFL ball are vastly superior to your rival team's rookies who have never played a down of NFL ball.

[FAX]

Personally, I'm happy that we have some troubled players now. It gives Berry somebody to mentor and Haley some brand new, fresh ass to kick.

FAX

[|Zach|]

KnowMo continues to live inside many of your heads. LMAO

Yes, because it takes someone skilled to get a rise out of people on message boards.

[LaChapelle]

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[The Bad Guy]

KnowMo continues to live inside many of your heads. LMAO

No, he lives on our message board.

[|Zach|]

Elway, Fox and Xanders said that they really wanted to come out of the draft with a DT and a RB but they were only going to draft the best player available. A couple of the DT's they expected to fall into the 2nd were picked in the first round.

They even said that they were seriously considering trading their two second round picks to get back up into the first round to grab a particular DT (didn't say who probably Fairley or Luiget) that was slipping but he didn't fall down far enough for them to be able to get a 4th and 5th round pick in the trade.

Are you watching the games this year?

[RealSNR]

If Denver drafted those same players 90% of this board would be ripping them new assholes.

And that is as it should be.

Hope springs eternal on draft day and your team's rookies who have never played a down of NFL ball are vastly superior to your rival team's rookies who have never played a down of NFL ball.We give the Raiders and Broncos plenty of credit when they make great picks.

You'll recall the cries of fear that emanated from Chiefs fans on this board when you guys drafted Jay Cutler. Since then the Broncos really haven't had any good first rounders. Sorry, but it's true.

[The Bad Guy]

People keep talking about Baldwin about his character. He freaking spouted off about the QB situation, it's not like he robbed an old lady or sold drugs out of his dorm room for 3 years.

[RealSNR]

People keep talking about Baldwin about his character. He freaking spouted off about the QB situation, it's not like he robbed an old lady or sold drugs out of his dorm room for 3 years.
Or worse: smoked dope

[Bowser]

Or worse: smoked dope

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[The Bad Guy]

Or worse: smoked dope

I'll guarantee that not one person questions the Mallet pick because the Patriots made it. However, the Justin Houston pick has been ripped apart, even after some people mocked him in the FIRST ROUND on Wednesday.

[The Bad Guy]

Are you watching the games this year?

Probably not after Week 6.

[Tombstone RJ]

People keep talking about Baldwin about his character. He freaking spouted off about the QB situation, it's not like he robbed an old lady or sold drugs out of his dorm room for 3 years.

I'm sure Baldwin will love Cassel.

[The Bad Guy]

I'm sure Baldwin will love Cassel.

Bowe did.

Sorry, but Bill Stull and Sensari aren't even close to Matt Cassel.

[siberian khatru]

Probably not after halftime.

FYP

[Gadzooks]

I'll guarantee that not one person questions the Mallet pick because the Patriots made it.

I question it.

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[GordonGekko]

I will admit Denver had a decent draft, now they need to get a QB

[The Bad Guy]

I will admit Denver had a decent draft, now they need to get a QB

And defensive tackles, and a durable running back, and pray that Brandon Lloyd isn't a flash in the pan.

[Tombstone RJ]

Bowe did.

Sorry, but Bill Stull and Sensari aren't even close to Matt Cassel.

Cassel is not even close to Cassel...

[Tombstone RJ]

I will admit Denver had a decent draft, now they need to get a QB

funny how the Broncos didn't draft one, eh?

[morphius]

It is probably because every year the experts keep wanting us to take yet another OT in the first round.

I'm happy we didn't...

[HotRoute]

I'll guarantee that not one person questions the Mallet pick because the Patriots made it. However, the Justin Houston pick has been ripped apart, even after some people mocked him in the FIRST ROUND on Wednesday.

fucking this, its not even that these players are bad people. Pioli considered the risk vs the reward on the players you all are talking about. The scouts did their due diligence im sure and felt comfortable enough to take these guys.

One good thing about having all the captains and leaders from last year is that in drafts to come they will always be a positive influence on our players. So i am completely okay with these picks.

on a side note I say a vote should be held on Knowmo's thread starting priv's, something needs to be done about this troll

[HotRoute]

funny how the Broncos didn't draft one, eh?

I have heard from many football coaches that if a team has to flip flop between two qb's that it usually means that they dont have a good one regardless of what their dillusional fans think

[kysirsoze]

****ing this, its not even that these players are bad people. Pioli considered the risk vs the reward on the players you all are talking about. The scouts did their due diligence im sure and felt comfortable enough to take these guys.

One good thing about having all the captains and leaders from last year is that in drafts to come they will always be a positive influence on our players. So i am completely okay with these picks.

on a side note I say a vote should be held on Knowmo's thread starting priv's, something needs to be done about this troll

Not to mention all but two (I think) of THIS years dratees were team captains. What a bunch of assholes.

[Tombstone RJ]

I have heard from many football coaches that if a team has to flip flop between two qb's that it usually means that they dont have a good one regardless of what their dillusional fans think

like Cassel and Stanzi?

[Quesadilla Joe]

on a side note I say a vote should be held on Knowmo's thread starting priv's, something needs to be done about this troll

If you actually look at the threads I have started over the past year none of them are about the Broncos. I post Broncos articles in the homer 2000 thread

[kysirsoze]

like Cassel and Stanzi?

Wut?

[HotRoute]

like Cassel and Stanzi?

yes exactly like that, since the chiefs have flip floped on the two guys so much in the 8 hrs since he has been drafted


talking to most broncos fans on here is similar to this

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[Tombstone RJ]

Wut?

:hmmm:

[Tombstone RJ]

yes exactly like that, since the chiefs have flip floped on the two guys so much in the 8 hrs since he has been drafted


talking to most broncos fans on here is similar to this

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Listen, KC has paid a boat load of money to Cassel and he's not exactly lighting the world on fire. I can look all over this message board and see many, many posters here (KC fans) who have serious questions about Cassel.

I'm pretty sure Pioli and Faley would love to have Orton over Cassel, especially for the money that is being paid for the production.

[Ugly Duck]

THEY'RE TROUBLED! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

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You guys act like its some kinda joke to draft troubled players. You'll see. Just you wait & see.....

[BigCatDaddy]

You guys act like its some kinda joke to draft troubled players. You'll see. Just you wait & see.....

We are quite familar with "player at risk".

[|Zach|]

Listen, KC has paid a boat load of money to Cassel and he's not exactly lighting the world on fire. I can look all over this message board and see many, many posters here (KC fans) who have serious questions about Cassel.

I'm pretty sure Pioli and Faley would love to have Orton over Cassel, especially for the money that is being paid for the production.

There are QBs in the world who are an upgrade over our guy. Orton isn't one of them. Lateral move at best.

[Quesadilla Joe]

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/27050/afc-west-draft-analysis-3

AFC West draft analysis

Leadership philosophy in the AFC West was on display during the draft.

One team's philosophy debuted, one team's age-old philosophy stood firm and two other teams went out of their comfort zones in an AFC West draft that may have lacked a ton of major headlines but added necessary depth throughout the division.

In Denver, John Elway used his first pick as Denver’s executive vice president on someone who is reminiscent of the player who gave Elway the most headaches during his playing days.

In Oakland, Al Davis stuck to his roots by taking a player with Raiders bloodlines (top Oakland pick Stefen Wisniewski, who’ll be the team’s starting center under his uncle, Steve Wisniewski) and by taking a couple of the draft’s fastest players.

In Kansas City, Chiefs general manager Scott Pioli deviated some from his reputation as a conservative drafter by taking high-risk, high-reward players such as receiver Jon Baldwin (first round) and pass-rusher Justin Houston (third round).

In San Diego, noted draft trader A.J. Smith entered the draft with major ammunition -- five picks in the first 89 choices. Remarkably, Smith kept all five picks.

Let’s take a look at some of the major angles of the AFC West during the draft.

BEST MOVE

It has to be the selection of the best player. I like a lot of the picks made in the division, including the third-day selection of running back Taiwan Jones (Oakland, fourth round) and quarterback Ricky Stanzi (Kansas City, fifth round). Both of those players could become steals.

But the toast of the 2011 AFC West draft is Texas A&M linebacker Von Miller. Denver took Miller with the No. 2 overall pick. He offers a stunning combination of college production, combine success, size and speed.

Miller should be an instant impact player on a defense that was ranked last in the NFL in several key statistical areas in 2010. If the Broncos make strides in 2011, Miller should be a reason why. Count him as an early favorite to be NFL defensive rookie of the year.

RISKIEST MOVE

Pitt wideout Jon Baldwin could be a boom-or-bust pick for the Chiefs.
Baldwin, the No. 26 overall pick, is the only high pick that is fairly risky. Baldwin was an extremely accomplished receiver at Pittsburgh. He can make spectacular catches and he has fabulous size at 6-foot-4, 230 pounds. However, Baldwin has a few red flags. His desire has been questioned, and he was known for being difficult at times at Pitt.

Pioli likes high-character players, and Kansas City coach Todd Haley has no time for players flapping their gums. Haley broke down No. 1 receiver Dwayne Bowe in the coach’s first season in Kansas City in 2009. Bowe made his way out of Haley’s doghouse, and he responded with a Pro Bowl season in 2010. So Baldwin will have a short leash.

If Baldwin doesn’t live up to Pioli and Haley’s standard, he won’t last long in Kansas City. Still, I think Baldwin fits well into the Chiefs’ offense and could find fast success as the No. 2 receiver behind Bowe in the Chiefs’ multifaceted offense. If Baldwin succeeds, this offense will be scary. That’s worth the risk.

MOST SURPRISING MOVE

There weren’t any stunning picks in the AFC West, but I think the Chargers’ selection of Illinois defensive lineman Corey Liuget at No. 18 surprised some.

Many league observers thought that Liuget wasn’t a perfect fit for the Chargers’ 3-4 defense. The Chargers were expected to take a 3-4 pass-rusher at No. 18. However, San Diego bypassed a few of those players in favor of the falling Liuget, who was expected to be a top-15 pick.

He is a big, stout player who has a knack for getting into the backfield. He may not have been pegged as a perfect Charger, but San Diego feels good about the choice.

FILE IT AWAY

The offensive lines of the Broncos, Raiders and Chiefs got an infusion of youth during a 10-pick span in the second round, and it could pave the way for strong offensive-line play in the division this decade.

At No. 46, Denver took Miami’s Orlando Franklin, who will start at right tackle. Two picks later, Oakland took Wisniewski and immediately penciled him in as the starting center. At No. 55, Kansas City took Florida State’s Rodney Hudson. He could be the starter at center or guard soon.

All three of these players have big potential and could have a huge effect on these offenses down the road.

[kysirsoze]

I'm pretty sure Pioli and Faley would love to have Orton over Cassel, especially for the money that is being paid for the production.

Could be but I doubt it. Either way, I bet they'd RATHER have a guy they drafted and developed who they think has the slightest chance to be a franchise QB to lead their team. (Something neither Cassel or Orton have.)

[TRR]

Listen, KC has paid a boat load of money to Cassel and he's not exactly lighting the world on fire. I can look all over this message board and see many, many posters here (KC fans) who have serious questions about Cassel.

I'm pretty sure Pioli and Faley would love to have Orton over Cassel, especially for the money that is being paid for the production.

Wow! You are a complete moron. Please go find another board.
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[HotRoute]

Listen, KC has paid a boat load of money to Cassel and he's not exactly lighting the world on fire. I can look all over this message board and see many, many posters here (KC fans) who have serious questions about Cassel.

I'm pretty sure Pioli and Faley would love to have Orton over Cassel, especially for the money that is being paid for the production.

Okay granted even if the chiefs had gotten tom brady, some fans will always question players, no matter what, and thats okay. It is their right to do so and it is usually entertaining.

And as far Pioli wanting Orton, I dont even think the broncos want him. Didnt he get benched late last season for a rookie QB who by all accounts hasnt proven he was worth a 1st round pick.

[SDChiefs]

Listen, KC has paid a boat load of money to Cassel and he's not exactly lighting the world on fire. I can look all over this message board and see many, many posters here (KC fans) who have serious questions about Cassel.

I'm pretty sure Pioli and Faley would love to have Orton over Cassel, especially for the money that is being paid for the production.

Lol. As bad as cassel is, no one, allow me to repeat, no one, wants orton over him. We want a GOOD qb.

[Mama Hip Rockets]

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ROFL

[suzzer99]

I think it was pretty funny how when guys are drafted in the first couple rounds, the pundits are almost always (Raiders excepted) universally for it. Then the next day they realize they have to pick at least 4 or 5 "head scratchers" so they come back and change their tune.

IE - if you were watching either NFLN or espn when the Chiefs drafted Baldwin in the first, none of them had anything negative to say. BUT then when the Chiefs drafted another potential character case - Justin Houston - in the 3rd, NOW they all had their story. And one by one they all started changing their tune on the Baldwin pick, so they could package it up with the Houston pick as "Chiefs taking some gambles on guys with questionable character". The whole thing is ridiculous.

[craneref]

Which team had the best first round draft? Are you kidding me?? The Donkeys had the Freakin' SECOND pick in the entire draft, they sure as hell should have picked a stud. I think we all agree that Von Miller has the potential to be very good, no matter WHICH team took him. I love polls that compare apples and oranges. How about if we throw in the fact that we basically got two for one with our first round draft choice, a starting WR and a starting OLB, now that would be a more comparison!

[beach tribe]

Which team had the best first round draft? Are you kidding me?? The Donkeys had the Freakin' SECOND pick in the entire draft, they sure as hell should have picked a stud. I think we all agree that Von Miller has the potential to be very good, no matter WHICH team took him. I love polls that compare apples and oranges. How about if we throw in the fact that we basically got two for one with our first round draft choice, a starting WR and a starting OLB, now that would be a more comparison!

Honestly, I'd take Balwin, and Houston over Von Miller, who they are going to have to pay twice as much as KCs two guys combined. That's going to be a ton of dough for a 4-3 OLB that has never played an NFL snap.
I do think Miller is going to be a fine player, but the $$ factor, and the fact that sure fire prospects bust every year forces me to prefer getting two guys, and cutting the chance of ending up with Jack shit in half.

[crazycoffey]

Listen, KC has paid a boat load of money to Cassel and he's not exactly lighting the world on fire. I can look all over this message board and see many, many posters here (KC fans) who have serious questions about Cassel.

I'm pretty sure Pioli and Faley would love to have Orton over Cassel, especially for the money that is being paid for the production.


wait, what? welcome back taco?

[BigRichard]

Listen, KC has paid a boat load of money to Cassel and he's not exactly lighting the world on fire. I can look all over this message board and see many, many posters here (KC fans) who have serious questions about Cassel.

I'm pretty sure Pioli and Faley would love to have Orton over Cassel, especially for the money that is being paid for the production.

Not a huge fan of Cassel however, I don't want Orton either. Just incase you are wondering I wouldn't want Tebow either. I don't think Stanzi is the answer either but at least this tells me they are looking at it.

[Molitoth]

The Broncos average pick was approx 19 spots in front of the chiefs in every round? They better have a better grade, or else they did absolutley f*cking terrible.

[Rausch]

You guys act like its some kinda joke to draft troubled players. You'll see. Just you wait & see.....

Most talented WR's are fucking Divas these days.

Just an evil you have to deal with...

[Bane]

The Donks are the new Bungles.Welcome to drafting in the top 5 for the next 10 years with nothing to show for it.

[ChiTown]

Why in the F is this retard still allowed posting privileges? Seriously, give knowless the hook.

[boogblaster]

draftirnutter

[Bane]

Trollubator is more like it.

[Tombstone RJ]

Okay granted even if the chiefs had gotten tom brady, some fans will always question players, no matter what, and thats okay. It is their right to do so and it is usually entertaining.

And as far Pioli wanting Orton, I dont even think the broncos want him. Didnt he get benched late last season for a rookie QB who by all accounts hasnt proven he was worth a 1st round pick.

Orton was injured.

[notorious]

Fans, including us at CP, are fucking idiots. To use a poll of fans as a booster for your draft is bad for even you Knowmo. :D

[Easy 6]

Its going to be a glorious treat to watch dinveer stumble around in fits & starts putting a new regime in place, i dont care if Fox is the second coming of Lombardi, its going to take time.

Meanwhile, KC is a full 3 years ahead of the donkey curve... hey, while you donx are down there in the cellar, make yourselves useful & clean the place up a bit why dontcha?

[Rausch]

Its going to be a glorious treat to watch dinveer stumble around in fits & starts putting a new regime in place, i dont care if Fox is the second coming of Lombardi, its going to take time.

Fox and Elway are a HORRIBLE match...

[Easy 6]

Fox and Elway are a HORRIBLE match...

Hopefully its one big soap opera filled with backbiting & palace intrigues.

[Rasputin]

Fox and Elway are a PERFECT ;) match...


fyp

[Quesadilla Joe]

Fox and Elway are a HORRIBLE match...

Care to elaborate?

[BigMeatballDave]

Care to elaborate?
Elway and Fox suck.

[Quesadilla Joe]

Its going to be a glorious treat to watch dinveer stumble around in fits & starts putting a new regime in place, i dont care if Fox is the second coming of Lombardi, its going to take time.

Meanwhile, KC is a full 3 years ahead of the donkey curve... hey, while you donx are down there in the cellar, make yourselves useful & clean the place up a bit why dontcha?

The Chiefs don't have as much talent as you think they do. You are a one dimensional offensive football team who would struggle to win more than two games without Charles.

[notorious]

Elway and Fox suck.

6 combined Superbowl appearances/KnowMo

[notorious]

You are a one dimensional offensive football team .


I agree, but we are working on it.

[DaFace]

Why in the F is this retard still allowed posting privileges? Seriously, give knowless the hook.

He had previously agreed to keep all of his "nanny nanny boo boo" BS confined to the one thread. Obviously, this is pretty damn close to breaking that agreement. Thus, my earlier warning.

[Rausch]

Care to elaborate?

Marino and Cowher would be a horrible match.

Kurt Warner and Marty would be a doomed pair.

Steve Young and Buddy Ryan. Good things would not happen.

[Chiefspants]

The Chiefs don't have as much talent as you think they do. You are a one dimensional offensive football team who would struggle to win more than two games without Charles.

You were the one that said the Chiefs would win no more than five games after their monday night win against the chargers last year, right?

[notorious]

Steve Young and Buddy Ryan. Good things would not happen.


ROFL Holy shit that would make for some great TV, though!

[Quesadilla Joe]

You were the one that said the Chiefs would win no more than five games after their monday night win against the chargers last year, right?

I'm sure I wasn't the only one here that thought the Chiefs would struggle. The schedule and Charlie Weis helped you out a lot last year though.....

[notorious]

The schedule and Charlie Weis helped you out a lot last year though.....

Schedule - yes

Charlie Weis - probably yes, but no way to be sure

[crazycoffey]

don't feed the trolls

[The Bad Guy]

The Chiefs don't have as much talent as you think they do. You are a one dimensional offensive football team who would struggle to win more than two games without Charles.

We had a receiver lead the league in touchdown catches, a rookie TE catch 47 passes, and a QB who had 27 touchdown passes.

Yes, that's a clear sign of one-dimensional.

The Chiefs have far more talent than Denver. I know it breaks your heart, and you can't cope with the fact.

[The Bad Guy]

You were the one that said the Chiefs would win no more than five games after their monday night win against the chargers last year, right?

Yep and before the season said he would leave this message board forever if the Chiefs finished ahead of the Broncos.

Then he retracted like the fucking weasel he is and said he was just making a statement and not a bet...like there's a difference.

[Saccopoo]

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[Rams Fan]

KnowMo said Tebow was better than Bradford.

I don't know what to say...

[BossChief]

HAHAHAHAAA

a donkey fan calling the Chiefs one dimensional is rich.

If anyone thinks that we will be one dimensional next year with the talent we added isn't paying good attention.

[notorious]

HAHAHAHAAA

a donkey fan calling the Chiefs one dimensional is rich.

If anyone thinks that we will be one dimensional next year with the talent we added isn't paying good attention.

Well, his team is Non-Dimensional, so one dimensional is pretty good.

[vailpass]

Chiefs fan strutting his charlie brown tail feathers; knows that this year he is going to kick that ball. :)

[notorious]

Chiefs fan strutting his charlie brown tail feathers; knows that this year he is going to kick that ball. :)

Who is?

We know our schedule is much harder.

We know our QB won't take us to a SB.

We know that our newly drafted rookies will have very little effect on the upcoming season.


I would say with all of our losing seasons in the past that most of us are pretty realistic.

The Broncos WERE trending downwards, and the Chiefs are trending upwards. That is a statement that no one can argue unless they are mentally insane.

[Ugly Duck]

Fans, including us at CP, are ****ing idiots.

But.... that would make all we say here completely useless. It just can't be....

[notorious]

But.... that would make all we say here completely useless. It just can't be....

Don't worry, Skynet will make the significance of CP fade into history.


That is, if Skynet and CP are not one in the same, and I've been conversing with bots all of these years.



Teedubya! I need help!!!

[The Bad Guy]

I'm sure I wasn't the only one here that thought the Chiefs would struggle. The schedule and Charlie Weis helped you out a lot last year though.....

You knew the schedule and the fact Charlie Weis was there when you made your prediction.

Keep backtracking you fuckstick.

[Rams Fan]

You knew the schedule and the fact Charlie Weis was there when you made your prediction.

Keep backtracking you fuckstick.

Did he play the "Training Camp injuries fucked the Broncos" card yet, again?

[Slainte]

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[Mr. Arrowhead]

Stanzi>tebow
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[Tombstone RJ]

Stanzi>tebow
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:LOL:

only in kc land is this possible. However, hope springs eternal this time of year for all fans...

[BillSelfsTrophycase]

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:LOL:ROFLROFLROFL

Holy shit

Rep

[The Bad Guy]

Did he play the "Training Camp injuries ****ed the Broncos" card yet, again?

He made every excuse, and played more cards than Las Vegas dealers. He's truly the worst kind of fan.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

:LOL:

only in kc land is this possible. However, hope springs eternal this time of year for all fans...

I'm sure Denver has a few gay ass "Wild Horses :whackit:" packages that Tebow can be successful in. As a pocket passer ROFL