ChiefsPlanet's Definitive (TIC) NFL Draft Ratings

[patteeu]

I've rated every NFL team's draft and ranked them according to how they compare to a couple of pre-draft mocks. The two mocks I used were the Official ChiefsPlanet Mock (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=242250) (created by the collective brilliance of our local draft junkies and the WalterFootball mock (http://walterfootball.com/draft2011.php) (which is easy to find online for free, unlike Mayock's or Gosselin's).

I also used a revised version of the draft value chart (http://walterfootball.com/nfldraftology321.php) (DVC) found on the WalterFootball site.

Methodology:

Every play drafted is assigned a "cost" based on the value assigned to his draft position by the DVC. He's also assigned a "value" based on his position in each of the mocks. The team that drafted that player then gets a score based on the difference between his cost and his value. A positive score indicates a "steal" and a negative score indicates a "reach".

For example, consider DeMarco Murray:

He's taken 64th overall in the Official ChiefsPlanet Mock for a "value" of 452.

He's taken 91st overall in the WalterFootball Mock for a "value" of 290.

In the real NFL Draft, he's taken by Dallas with the 71st overall pick for a "cost" of 396.

Compared to the Official ChiefsPlanet Mock, Dallas gets a score of 452-396= +56

Compared to the WalterFootball Mock, Dallas gets a score of 290-396= -106

The team's overall score is calculated by adding the scores from each of it's draft picks. The higher the score, the better the draft.


Results using the Official ChiefsPlanet Mock:

01. Tampa Bay Buccaneers 2347.5
02. New Orleans Saints 1738.5
03. New York Giants 1555.0
04. Kansas City Chiefs 1022.0
05. Cincinnatti Bengals 332.0
06. Jacksonville Jaguars 306.0
07. Minnesota Vikings 287.0
08. Green Bay Packers 248.0
09. Arizona Cardinals 217.5
10. Detroit Lions 197.5
11. Pittsburgh Steelers 170.0
12. Chicago Bears 90.5
13. Washington Redskins -28.0
14. Indianapolis Colts -80.5
15. Baltimore Ravens -126.0
16. Atlanta Falcons -174.0
17. Oakland Raiders -199.0
18. New England Patriots -216.5
19. New York Jets -271.0
20. Tennessee Titans -307.0
21. Houston Texans -308.5
22. St. Louis Rams -410.5
23. Dallas Cowboys -696.0
24. Miami Dolphins -805.0
25. Denver Broncos -851.0
26. San Diego Chargers -926.0
27. Cleveland Browns -1091.0
28. Buffalo Bills -1167.5
29. Seattle Seahawks -1188.5
30. San Francisco 49ers -1291.5
31. Philadelphia Eagles -1478.0
32. Carolina Panthers -1524.0

Results using WalterFootball Mock:

01. New York Giants 1960.0
02. New Orleans Saints 999.5
03. Green Bay Packers 739.0
04. Pittsburgh Steelers 680.0
05. New York Jets 432.5
06. Baltimore Ravens 284.5
07. Kansas City Chiefs 203.0
08. Tampa Bay Buccaneers 192.5
09. Chicago Bears 115.5
10. St. Louis Rams 99.5
11. Atlanta Falcons 92.0
12. Indianapolis Colts 26.0
13. Miami Dolphins 22.0
14. Cincinnatti Bengals -25.5
15. Jacksonville Jaguars -27.0
16. Minnesota Vikings -49.0
17. Carolina Panthers -105.5
18. Oakland Raiders -169.5
19. Arizona Cardinals -205.5
20. Detroit Lions -220.5
21. Denver Broncos -224.5
22. Houston Texans -300.5
23. Washington Redskins -358.0
24. Tennessee Titans -462.0
25. Cleveland Browns -472.5
26. Dallas Cowboys -539.0
27. San Francisco 49ers -586.0
28. Buffalo Bills -641.0
29. Seattle Seahawks -681.5
30. Philadelphia Eagles -694.5
31. New England Patriots -1049.0
32. San Diego Chargers -1087.0

[T-post Tom]

He blinded me with math. Interesting.

[patteeu]

A couple of notes:

1. Obviously these results would change if a different mock was used or if a different version of the Draft Value Chart was used.

2. I did a similar calculation for the AFC West teams using the WalterFootball Mock in this thread (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=244645). The results differ from that analysis slightly because I used a revised version of the Draft Value Chart here instead of the older version that I used in that thread.

3. The WalterFootball Mock came out right before the NFL draft. The Official ChiefsPlanet Mock was put together in March. The impact of this time difference can be seen in the values of players who either rose or dropped on the basis of late information. The most obvious and significant of these was the Da'Quan Bowers leg injury. He was taken 2nd overall in the Official ChiefsPlanet Mock whereas he was taken 24th overall in the WalterFootball Mock. Since New Orleans took him with the 51st pick, they get credit for a big steal in the WalterFootball analysis (+405 pts) but it's nothing compared to the steal they get credited for in the Official ChiefsPlanet Mock analysis (+2230 pts).

4. There were more picks in the draft than the Draft Value Chart covered so I decreased the value of each pick beyond the range of the DVC by 0.5 pts.

[wazu]

Very cool. Mind posting the detail behind the Chiefs numbers?

[Quesadilla Joe]

Brian Xanders was on a Denver sports station and said that they graded every teams draft according to their board and Denver came out on top followed by the Saints and the Titans.

[Rasputin]

Brian Xanders was on a Denver sports station and said that they graded every teams draft according to their board and Denver came out on top followed by the Saints and the Titans.

Missing your signature, & you started new account for that reason huh.


Ask you something KnowMo

Do they laugh as much or more at you on the Donkos websites as we do here? Do they not accept you there? I know Donko fans are idiots but you must be the cream of the crop.

[SAUTO]

Brian Xanders was on a Denver sports station and said that they graded every teams draft according to their board and Denver came out on top followed by the Saints and the Titans.
I would hope they came out on top using their OWN board and having a top five pick in each round.

Goddamn boy. You are fucking stupid.
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[patteeu]

Very cool. Mind posting the detail behind the Chiefs numbers?

Here you go:

Kansas City Chiefs CP WF
1 (26) Jonathan Baldwin, WR, Pittsburgh -100.0 -345.0
2 (55) Rodney Hudson, C, Florida State -46.0 -20.0
3 (70) Justin Houston, LB, Georgia 746.0 -29.0
3 (86) Allen Bailey, DE, Miami 265.0 345.0
4 (118) Jalil Brown, DB, Colorado -113.0 -36.0
5 (135) Ricky Stanzi, QB, Iowa 106.0 253.0
5 (140) Gabe Miller, LB, Oregon State -98.0 -98.0
6 (199) Jerrell Powe, NT, Mississippi 282.5 153.5
7 (223) Shane Bannon, RB, Yale -20.5 -20.5
1022.0 203.0

[patteeu]

Brian Xanders was on a Denver sports station and said that they graded every teams draft according to their board and Denver came out on top followed by the Saints and the Titans.

Call in tomorrow and tell them that ChiefsPlanet has you at #25, barely ahead of the division cellar-dwelling Chargers. Better luck next year.

[Quesadilla Joe]

Missing your signature, & you started new account for that reason huh.


Ask you something KnowMo

Do they laugh as much or more at you on the Donkos websites as we do here? Do they not accept you there? I know Donko fans are idiots but you must be the cream of the crop.

No. For some reason I can't get any pages to load on my KnowMo2724 account and if a page does happen to load it takes two or three minutes to do so, or it will take me to the Chiefs Planet index page.

I actually find the people here hilarious and enjoy CP more than Broncos sites. The Orange Mane is too slow paced and half the posters there just want to argue about how bad the Broncos are or how Pat Bowlen has been secretly running the Broncos draft room and not letting the front office draft DT's for the past 30 years:rolleyes:.... The official Broncos board sucks.

[aturnis]

Brian Xanders was on a Denver sports station and said that they graded every teams draft according to their board and Denver came out on top followed by the Saints and the Titans.

Yes, if any given teams GM rates all of the teams draft by THEIR OWN FARKING BOARD! They almost always will come out on top. How retarded is this statement?

[RealSNR]

Brian Xanders was on a Denver sports station and said that they graded every teams draft according to their board and Denver came out on top followed by the Saints and the Titans.Sounds fascinating. Are you actually going to watch all those blue-chip rookies you guys drafted blossom into super stars? I don't really see how if you don't watch the Bronco games

[RealSNR]

Also, it would be interesting to see the results through Mel Kiper or Todd McShay's big boards. They both gave the Chiefs a subpar grade for this draft, and I can't decide if it's because they're crazy or just plain stupid. An analysis like this might lend some evidence one way or the other

[kstater]

No. For some reason I can't get any pages to load on my KnowMo2724 account and if a page does happen to load it takes two or three minutes to do so, or it will take me to the Chiefs Planet index page.



LMAO

[Crush]

No. For some reason I can't get any pages to load on my KnowMo2724 account and if a page does happen to load it takes two or three minutes to do so, or it will take me to the Chiefs Planet index page.

I actually find the people here hilarious and enjoy CP more than Broncos sites. The Orange Mane is too slow paced and half the posters there just want to argue about how bad the Broncos are or how Pat Bowlen has been secretly running the Broncos draft room and not letting the front office draft DT's for the past 30 years:rolleyes:.... The official Broncos board sucks.

It was indeed a miserable draft.

[The Bad Guy]

You better contact BossChief about your signature you welching dickface.

The most hilarious post ever might be in this thread. The Broncos GM rated his own draft #1? I was expecting him to give it a late 20's grade.

[Dartgod]

No. For some reason I can't get any pages to load on my KnowMo2724 account and if a page does happen to load it takes two or three minutes to do so, or it will take me to the Chiefs Planet index page.
*cough*miserableuser*cough*

ROFL

[patteeu]

Also, it would be interesting to see the results through Mel Kiper or Todd McShay's big boards. They both gave the Chiefs a subpar grade for this draft, and I can't decide if it's because they're crazy or just plain stupid. An analysis like this might lend some evidence one way or the other

Do you have a link to either of their boards?

[DaKCMan AP]

Brian Xanders was on a Denver sports station and said that they graded every teams draft according to their board and Denver came out on top followed by the Saints and the Titans.

http://www.chaobell.net/newgallery/d/3111-2/ursodumb.gif

[Deberg_1990]

For once id like to see someone go back and grade drafts from like 3 to 5 years past....

[patteeu]

For once id like to see someone go back and grade drafts from like 3 to 5 years past....

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=243668

[Deberg_1990]

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=243668

NIce. Thanks

[Saul Good]

This is a nice tool for evaluating a draft from a value standpoint. It doesn't take need into account. Of course, I would contend that its the GM's job to move up\down in the draft in order to maximize both need and value. Pioli did an amazing job of that, probably the best I've seen since the Chargers wound up with Tomlinson and Brees.

[patteeu]

This is a nice tool for evaluating a draft from a value standpoint. It doesn't take need into account. Of course, I would contend that its the GM's job to move up\down in the draft in order to maximize both need and value. Pioli did an amazing job of that, probably the best I've seen since the Chargers wound up with Tomlinson and Brees.

Yes, and even in terms of value, it's only useful to the extent that the mock it's based upon is a reasonable reflection of value. Many mocks try to take need into account in order to get the picks right which would undermine the notion of value for the purpose of this analysis.

[notorious]

It would be interesting to see how bad Carl scored on draft value during the Vermiel years.


Then again, no thanks.

[ReynardMuldrake]

Here you go:

Kansas City Chiefs CP WF
1 (26) Jonathan Baldwin, WR, Pittsburgh -100.0 -345.0
2 (55) Rodney Hudson, C, Florida State -46.0 -20.0
3 (70) Justin Houston, LB, Georgia 746.0 -29.0
3 (86) Allen Bailey, DE, Miami 265.0 345.0
4 (118) Jalil Brown, DB, Colorado -113.0 -36.0
5 (135) Ricky Stanzi, QB, Iowa 106.0 253.0
5 (140) Gabe Miller, LB, Oregon State -98.0 -98.0
6 (199) Jerrell Powe, NT, Mississippi 282.5 153.5
7 (223) Shane Bannon, RB, Yale -20.5 -20.5
1022.0 203.0

Why is there such a huge discrepancy for Houston?

[notorious]

Why is there such a huge discrepancy for Houston?

We adore him, they don't.

[patteeu]

Why is there such a huge discrepancy for Houston?

Because he was taken 20th overall in the Official CP Mock whereas he didn't go until the 3rd round in reality. WalterFootball had him going in the 3rd round just a few picks after the spot the Chiefs took him. This is probably another case like that of Da'Quan Bowers where late information (about his failed drug test at the combine in this case) caused a re-evaluation of his value. That re-evaluation is reflected in the WalterFootball Mock, but not in the CP Mock.

The way I'd read it is that the CP Mock reflects his value based on talent alone whereas the WF Mock reflects the riskiness of a guy who was too foolish to clean up for the combine.

[patteeu]

Another big mover is the Carolina pick of Cam Newton. In the Official ChiefsPlanet Mock, Newton wasn't taken until the 8th pick whereas WalterFootball and reality had him going #1. Due to the large drops in value at the front end of the draft, this 8 spot difference makes a huge difference (1000 pts) in the score Carolina gets for making the pick.

That's the biggest reason Carolina goes from being last when ranked on the basis of the CP Mock to 17th when ranked on the basis of the WF Mock.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Because he was taken 20th overall in the Official CP Mock whereas he didn't go until the 3rd round in reality. WalterFootball had him going in the 3rd round just a few picks after the spot the Chiefs took him. This is probably another case like that of Da'Quan Bowers where late information (about his failed drug test at the combine in this case) caused a re-evaluation of his value. That re-evaluation is reflected in the WalterFootball Mock, but not in the CP Mock.

The way I'd read it is that the CP Mock reflects his value based on talent alone whereas the WF Mock reflects the riskiness of a guy who was too foolish to clean up for the combine.

Time is the factor which forces the CP mock to select based on talent.

We start the CP mock in early March, almost a full two months before the real thing. A lot happens over that time that affects the status of a player.

In some regards, I wish I hadn't pushed a few years back to go to a full 7 round mock. Had we stayed with a 2-3 round mock, I believe the results would be much more realistic because we could start the process much closer to the actual draft date.

[The Franchise]

Time is the factor which forces the CP mock to select based on value.

We start the CP mock in early March, almost a full two months before the real thing. A lot happens over that time that affects the status of a player.

In some regards, I wish I hadn't pushed a few years back to go to a full 7 round mock. Had we stayed with a 2-3 round mock, I believe the results would be much more realistic because we could start the process much closer to the actual draft date.

Maybe that's something to think about for next year.

[Rain Man]

Nice work.

It seems like there might be a bigger variance in the Chiefsplanet mock than in the Walterfootball mock.

Either way, though, it looks like the Chiefs win.

[Quesadilla Joe]

*cough*miserableuser*cough*

ROFL

Damn that is not cool at all.

[Saul Good]

Also, it would be interesting to see the results through Mel Kiper or Todd McShay's big boards. They both gave the Chiefs a subpar grade for this draft, and I can't decide if it's because they're crazy or just plain stupid. An analysis like this might lend some evidence one way or the other

I love how Kiper gives us a bad grade, but he says that Stanzi will have the best career of any QB in the draft.

If you get the best QB in the 5th round, you had a great draft.

[patteeu]

Time is the factor which forces the CP mock to select based on talent.

We start the CP mock in early March, almost a full two months before the real thing. A lot happens over that time that affects the status of a player.

In some regards, I wish I hadn't pushed a few years back to go to a full 7 round mock. Had we stayed with a 2-3 round mock, I believe the results would be much more realistic because we could start the process much closer to the actual draft date.

Yeah, that's perfectly reasonable. I said basically the same thing in my notes in post 3.

[patteeu]

Nice work.

It seems like there might be a bigger variance in the Chiefsplanet mock than in the Walterfootball mock.

Either way, though, it looks like the Chiefs win.

And that's really all that's important. The Chiefs are the AFC West champs of the draft.

[RealSNR]

Another big mover is the Carolina pick of Cam Newton. In the Official ChiefsPlanet Mock, Newton wasn't taken until the 8th pick whereas WalterFootball and reality had him going #1. Due to the large drops in value at the front end of the draft, this 8 spot difference makes a huge difference (1000 pts) in the score Carolina gets for making the pick.

That's the biggest reason Carolina goes from being last when ranked on the basis of the CP Mock to 17th when ranked on the basis of the WF Mock.I had Terrell McClain (Carolina's 3rd rounder) going in the 7th round to the Packers. Do you think that also had something to do with it?

[patteeu]

I had Terrell McClain (Carolina's 3rd rounder) going in the 7th round to the Packers. Do you think that also had something to do with it?

Yeah, that one caused another 224.5 pts of difference between the CP and the WF model. The CP model indicated that the McClain pick was a -408.5 pt reach while the WF model showed it as a -184 pt reach (WF had him going in the 3rd round, but it was the last pick of the 3rd round instead of the first*).

The other big one was Brandon Hogan, Carolina's 4th round pick. The CP collective braintrust didn't have Hogan on it's board at all, but WF nailed it with the right pick. Difference of 255 pts.

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* Interestingly, that last pick in the round was also Carolina's so WF had the guy going to the right team but with the wrong pick.

[RealSNR]

Do you have a link to either of their boards?

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/rankings

Dunno who compiles this one. It's through ESPN insider, but I have a membership. I think it might be an amalgamation of both McShay's and Kiper's boards.

Apologies for the jumbled mess. The information is there, though. The final number in each column is the player ranking, and they're listed in order. I don't know how to make it nice and neat, that's all.

Marcell Dareus DT 6'3⅛" 319 Alabama 97 Buffalo 3(3) 1
Von Miller OLB 6'2⅝" 246 Texas A&M 97 Denver 2(2) 2
A.J. Green WR 6'3⅝" 211 Georgia 97 Cincinnati 4(4) 3
Patrick Peterson CB 6'0¼" 219 LSU 97 Arizona 5(5) 4
Blaine Gabbert QB 6'4⅜" 234 Missouri 96 Jacksonville 10(10) 5
Robert Quinn DE 6'4" 265 North Carolina 96 St. Louis 14(14) 6
Julio Jones WR 6'2¾" 220 Alabama 95 Atlanta 6(6) 7
Prince Amukamara CB 6'0" 206 Nebraska 95 NY Giants 19(19) 8
Cameron Jordan DE 6'4⅛" 287 California 95 New Orleans 24(24) 9
Tyron Smith OT 6'5" 307 USC 95 Dallas 9(9) 10
Nick Fairley DT 6'2⅞" 291 Auburn 94 Detroit 13(13) 11
Anthony Castonzo OT 6'7" 311 Boston College 94 Indianapolis 22(22) 12
Corey Liuget DT 6'2⅛" 298 Illinois 93 San Diego 18(18) 13
Aldon Smith DE 6'4¼" 263 Missouri 93 San Francisco 7(7) 14
Cam Newton QB 6'5" 248 Auburn 93 Carolina 1(1) 15
J.J. Watt DE 6'5⅜" 290 Wisconsin 93 Houston 11(11) 16
Ryan Kerrigan DE 6'3⅞" 267 Purdue 92 Washington 16(16) 17
Jimmy Smith CB 6'2¼" 211 Colorado 92 Baltimore 27(27) 18
Mike Pouncey OC 6'5" 303 Florida 92 Miami 15(15) 19
Mark Ingram RB 5'9⅛" 215 Alabama 92 New Orleans 28(28) 20
Nate Solder OT 6'8¼" 319 Colorado 91 New England 17(17) 21
Da'Quan Bowers DE 6'3⅜" 280 Clemson 91 Tampa Bay 19(51) 22
Gabe Carimi OT 6'7" 314 Wisconsin 91 Chicago 29(29) 23
Muhammad Wilkerson DE 6'4⅛" 315 Temple 91 NY Jets 30(30) 24
Jake Locker QB 6'2½" 231 Washington 90 Tennessee 8(8) 25
Phil Taylor DT 6'3¼" 334 Baylor 90 Cleveland 21(21) 26
Brooks Reed DE 6'2½" 263 Arizona 90 Houston 10(42) 27
Adrian Clayborn DE 6'2⅝" 281 Iowa 89 Tampa Bay 20(20) 28
Danny Watkins OG 6'3⅜" 310 Baylor 89 Philadelphia 23(23) 29
Kyle Rudolph TE 6'6⅛" 259 Notre Dame 89 Minnesota 11(43) 30
Cameron Heyward DE 6'4⅝" 294 Ohio State 88 Pittsburgh 31(31) 31
Aaron Williams CB 5'11⅞" 204 Texas 88 Buffalo 2(34) 32
Ryan Williams RB 5'9⅜" 212 Virginia Tech 88 Arizona 6(38) 33
Akeem Ayers OLB 6'2½" 254 UCLA 88 Tennessee 7(39) 34
Jabaal Sheard DE 6'2⅞" 264 Pittsburgh 87 Cleveland 5(37) 35
Derek Sherrod OT 6'5⅜" 321 Mississippi State 87 Green Bay 32(32) 36
Mikel Leshoure RB 5'11⅝" 227 Illinois 86 Detroit 25(57) 37
Marvin Austin DT 6'1⅝" 309 North Carolina 86 NY Giants 20(52) 38
Ras-I Dowling CB 6'1⅜" 198 Virginia 86 New England 1(33) 39
Andy Dalton QB 6'2" 215 TCU 86 Cincinnati 3(35) 40
Jonathan Baldwin WR 6'4⅜" 228 Pittsburgh 85 Kansas City 26(26) 41
Brandon Harris CB 5'9½" 191 Miami (FL) 85 Houston 28(60) 42
James Carpenter OG 6'4⅝" 324 Alabama 85 Seattle 25(25) 43
Stephen Paea DT 6'1¼" 303 Oregon State 85 Chicago 21(53) 44
Christian Ponder QB 6'2" 229 Florida State 85 Minnesota 12(12) 45
Justin Houston DE 6'2⅞" 270 Georgia 84 Kansas City 6(70) 46
Randall Cobb WR 5'10¼" 191 Kentucky 84 Green Bay 32(64) 47
Bruce Carter OLB 6'1½" 241 North Carolina 84 Dallas 8(40) 48
Titus Young WR 5'11⅜" 174 Boise State 83 Detroit 12(44) 49
Clint Boling OG 6'4⅝" 308 Georgia 83 Cincinnati 4(101) 50
Ranked Players
NAME POS HT WT SCHOOL GRADE DRAFTED BY PK(OVR) OVR RANK
Rahim Moore S 5'11¾" 202 UCLA 83 Denver 13(45) 51
Rodney Hudson OC 6'2⅜" 299 Florida State 83 Kansas City 23(55) 52
Torrey Smith WR 6'0⅞" 204 Maryland 82 Baltimore 26(58) 53
Ryan Mallett QB 6'6¾" 253 Arkansas 82 New England 10(74) 54
William Rackley OG 6'5" 303 Lehigh 82 Jacksonville 12(76) 55
Mason Foster ILB 6'1¼" 245 Washington 82 Tampa Bay 20(84) 56
Colin Kaepernick QB 6'4⅝" 233 Nevada 81 San Francisco 4(36) 57
Greg Little WR 6'2½" 231 North Carolina 81 Cleveland 27(59) 58
Martez Wilson OLB 6'4" 250 Illinois 81 New Orleans 8(72) 59
Allen Bailey DE 6'3" 285 Miami (FL) 81 Kansas City 22(86) 60
Jurrell Casey DT 6'0⅝" 300 USC 81 Tennessee 13(77) 61
Lance Kendricks TE 6'2⅞" 243 Wisconsin 81 St. Louis 15(47) 62
Tandon Doss WR 6'2" 201 Indiana 80 Baltimore 26(123) 63
Kelvin Sheppard ILB 6'1⅞" 250 LSU 80 Buffalo 4(68) 64
Johnny Patrick CB 5'10⅝" 191 Louisville 80 New Orleans 24(88) 65
Orlando Franklin OG 6'5½" 316 Miami (FL) 79 Denver 14(46) 66
Leonard Hankerson WR 6'1½" 209 Miami (FL) 79 Washington 15(79) 67
Christian Ballard DT 6'3¾" 283 Iowa 78 Minnesota 9(106) 68
Jaiquawn Jarrett S 5'11⅞" 198 Temple 78 Philadelphia 22(54) 69
Daniel Thomas RB 6'0¼" 230 Kansas State 78 Miami 30(62) 70
Terrell McClain DT 6'1⅝" 297 South Florida 78 Carolina 1(65) 71
Joshua Thomas CB 5'10¼" 191 Buffalo 78 Dallas 12(143) 72
Jarvis Jenkins DT 6'4" 310 Clemson 78 Washington 9(41) 73
Jerrel Jernigan WR 5'8⅞" 185 Troy 78 NY Giants 19(83) 74
Marcus Gilchrist CB 5'10" 195 Clemson 78 San Diego 18(50) 75
Curtis Brown CB 5'11⅝" 185 Texas 77 Pittsburgh 31(95) 76
Edmond Gates WR 5'11¾" 192 Abilene Christian 77 Miami 14(111) 77
Marcus Gilbert OT 6'6⅛" 330 Florida 77 Pittsburgh 31(63) 78
Virgil Green TE 6'3⅜" 249 Nevada 77 Denver 1(204) 79
Brandon Burton CB 5'11⅝" 190 Utah 77 Minnesota 8(139) 80
Shareece Wright CB 5'10⅞" 185 USC 76 San Diego 25(89) 81
Gregory Salas WR 6'1⅛" 210 Hawaii 76 St. Louis 15(112) 82
Kendall Hunter RB 5'7¼" 199 Oklahoma State 76 San Francisco 18(115) 83
John Moffitt OG 6'4¼" 319 Wisconsin 76 Seattle 11(75) 84
Johnny White RB 5'9⅞" 209 North Carolina 75 Buffalo 2(133) 85
Quinton Carter S 6'0⅝" 208 Oklahoma 75 Denver 11(108) 86
Ricky Stanzi QB 6'4⅜" 223 Iowa 75 Kansas City 4(135) 87
Taiwan Jones RB 5'11⅝" 194 Eastern Washington 75 Oakland 28(125) 88
Sam Acho DE 6'1⅝" 262 Texas 75 Arizona 6(103) 89
Demarco Murray RB 5'11⅝" 213 Oklahoma 74 Dallas 7(71) 90
Luke Stocker TE 6'4¾" 258 Tennessee 74 Tampa Bay 7(104) 91
Vincent Brown WR 5'11" 184 San Diego State 74 San Diego 18(82) 92
Jalil Brown CB 6'0⅝" 204 Colorado 74 Kansas City 21(118) 93
Joseph Lefeged S 5'11⅝" 210 Rutgers 74 94
Cliff Matthews DE 6'3½" 257 South Carolina 73 Atlanta 27(230) 95
Akeem Dent ILB 6'1" 242 Georgia 73 Atlanta 27(91) 96
Shane Vereen RB 5'8⅞" 203 California 73 New England 24(56) 97
Brandon Hogan CB 5'10¼" 192 West Virginia 73 Carolina 1(98) 98
Benjamin Ijalana OT 6'3⅝" 317 Villanova 73 Indianapolis 17(49) 99
Quan Sturdivant ILB 6'1" 241 North Carolina 72 Arizona 6(171) 100
Ranked Players
NAME POS HT WT SCHOOL GRADE DRAFTED BY PK(OVR) OVR RANK
Dion Lewis RB 5'6⅝" 193 Pittsburgh 72 Philadelphia 18(149) 101
Colin McCarthy ILB 6'1⅜" 238 Miami (FL) 72 Tennessee 12(109) 102
James Brewer OT 6'6¼" 323 Indiana 72 NY Giants 20(117) 103
Lee Ziemba OT 6'5⅝" 317 Auburn 71 Carolina 41(244) 104
Jacquizz Rodgers RB 5'5⅞" 196 Oregon State 71 Atlanta 14(145) 105
Davon House CB 6'0½" 200 New Mexico State 71 Green Bay 34(131) 106
Buster Skrine CB 5'9½" 186 Chattanooga 70 Cleveland 6(137) 107
Dontay Moch OLB 6'1⅜" 248 Nevada 70 Cincinnati 2(66) 108
Jeremy Beal DE 6'2¼" 262 Oklahoma 70 Denver 44(247) 109
Ahmad Black S 5'9½" 184 Florida 70 Tampa Bay 20(151) 110
Austin Pettis WR 6'2⅝" 209 Boise State 70 St. Louis 14(78) 111
Dwayne Harris WR 5'10⅜" 203 East Carolina 69 Dallas 11(176) 112
Kendric Burney CB 5'9⅜" 186 North Carolina 68 113
Drake Nevis DT 6'0⅝" 294 LSU 68 Indianapolis 23(87) 114
Demarcus Van Dyke CB 6'0¾" 176 Miami (FL) 67 Oakland 17(81) 115
Tyler Sash S 6'0" 211 Iowa 67 NY Giants 33(198) 116
Niles Paul WR 6'0⅞" 224 Nebraska 67 Washington 24(155) 117
Jah Reid OT 6'7⅛" 327 UCF 67 Baltimore 21(85) 118
Kenrick Ellis DT 6'4⅞" 346 Hampton 67 NY Jets 30(94) 119
Chris Hairston OT 6'6⅛" 326 Clemson 67 Buffalo 25(122) 120
Shiloh Keo S 5'11¼" 219 Idaho 66 Houston 13(144) 121
Christopher Carter OLB 6'1½" 241 Fresno State 66 Pittsburgh 31(162) 122
Lawrence Guy DT 6'4⅛" 305 Arizona State 66 Green Bay 30(233) 123
Robert Housler TE 6'5⅜" 248 Florida Atlantic 66 Arizona 5(69) 124
K.J. Wright OLB 6'3⅜" 246 Mississippi State 66 Seattle 2(99) 125
Chimdi Chekwa CB 5'11¾" 191 Ohio State 65 Oakland 16(113) 126
Ross Homan OLB 6'0¾" 240 Ohio State 65 Minnesota 35(200) 127
Jordan Todman RB 5'8⅞" 203 Connecticut 65 San Diego 18(183) 128
Cecil Shorts WR 5'11¾" 205 Mount Union 65 Jacksonville 17(114) 129
Jordan Cameron TE 6'5¼" 254 USC 65 Cleveland 5(102) 130
Marcus Cannon OT 6'5" 358 TCU 64 New England 7(138) 131
Curtis Marsh CB 6'0½" 197 Utah State 64 Philadelphia 26(90) 132
Cedric Thornton DT 6'3⅛" 309 Southern Arkansas 64 133
Delone Carter RB 5'8⅝" 225 Syracuse 64 Indianapolis 22(119) 134
Casey Matthews ILB 6'0⅞" 231 Oregon 64 Philadelphia 19(116) 135
Chris Culliver CB 6'0⅜" 199 South Carolina 63 San Francisco 16(80) 136
Pernell McPhee DE 6'2⅝" 278 Mississippi State 63 Baltimore 34(165) 137
David Arkin OG 6'4¾" 300 Missouri State 63 Dallas 13(110) 138
Joe Barksdale OT 6'4¾" 325 LSU 63 Oakland 28(92) 139
Jeremy Kerley WR 5'9½" 189 TCU 63 NY Jets 22(153) 140
Darvin Adams WR 6'2⅛" 190 Auburn 62 141
Greg Romeus DE 6'4⅞" 264 Pittsburgh 62 New Orleans 23(226) 142
Greg Jones ILB 6'0⅛" 242 Michigan State 62 NY Giants 20(185) 143
Bilal Powell RB 5'10½" 207 Louisville 62 NY Jets 29(126) 144
D.J. Williams TE 6'2⅛" 245 Arkansas 62 Green Bay 10(141) 145
Stefen Wisniewski OC 6'3" 313 Penn State 62 Oakland 16(48) 146
DeAndre McDaniel S 6'0⅛" 217 Clemson 61 147
Nate Irving ILB 6'1" 240 North Carolina State 61 Denver 3(67) 148
Rashad Carmichael CB 5'10" 192 Virginia Tech 61 Houston 30(127) 149
Tyrod Taylor QB 6'0¾" 216 Virginia Tech 60 Baltimore 15(180) 150
Ranked Players
NAME POS HT WT SCHOOL GRADE DRAFTED BY PK(OVR) OVR RANK
Alexander Green RB 6'0¼" 225 Hawaii 60 Green Bay 32(96) 151
Jeron Johnson S 5'10¼" 212 Boise State 60 152
Lawrence Wilson OLB 6'0⅞" 229 Connecticut 59 Carolina 1(166) 153
Stevan Ridley RB 5'11¼" 225 LSU 59 New England 9(73) 154
Lee Smith TE 6'5¾" 266 Marshall 59 New England 28(159) 155
Demarcus Love OT 6'4⅜" 315 Arkansas 59 Minnesota 3(168) 156
Charles Clay FB 6'2⅞" 245 Tulsa 59 Miami 9(174) 157
Andrew Jackson OG 6'5" 299 Fresno State 59 Atlanta 7(210) 158
Eric Hagg S 6'1⅜" 209 Nebraska 58 Cleveland 45(248) 159
Ian Williams DT 6'1¼" 319 Notre Dame 58 160
Mark Herzlich OLB 6'4" 244 Boston College 58 161
Jason Pinkston OT 6'3⅜" 317 Pittsburgh 58 Cleveland 19(150) 162
Derrick Locke RB 5'8¼" 188 Kentucky 58 163
Bruce Miller DE 6'1⅜" 254 UCF 57 San Francisco 8(211) 164
Jonas Mouton OLB 6'1" 239 Michigan 57 San Diego 29(61) 165
Aldrick Robinson WR 5'9⅝" 184 Southern Methodist 57 Washington 13(178) 166
Nicholas Bellore ILB 6'1" 245 Central Michigan 56 167
Zach Hurd OG 6'6¾" 316 Connecticut 56 168
Alex Henery PK 6'1⅛" 178 Nebraska 56 Philadelphia 23(120) 169
Roy Helu RB 5'11½" 219 Nebraska 56 Washington 8(105) 170
Ricardo Lockette WR 6'2⅛" 211 Fort Valley State 56 171
Chykie Brown CB 5'11¼" 190 Texas 55 Baltimore 33(164) 172
Robert Sands S 6'4⅜" 217 West Virginia 55 Cincinnati 3(134) 173
Anthony Sherman FB 5'10¼" 242 Connecticut 55 Arizona 5(136) 174
Karl Klug DE 6'3" 275 Iowa 54 Tennessee 11(142) 175
Da'Norris Searcy S 5'10⅝" 223 North Carolina 54 Buffalo 3(100) 176
Scott Lutrus OLB 6'2⅜" 241 Connecticut 54 177
Dane Sanzenbacher WR 5'11⅜" 182 Ohio State 54 178
Jermale Hines S 6'1⅛" 219 Ohio State 53 St. Louis 27(158) 179
Douglas Hogue OLB 6'2½" 235 Syracuse 53 Detroit 26(157) 180
Chris L. Rucker CB 6'0½" 195 Michigan State 52 Indianapolis 23(188) 181
Orie Lemon ILB 6'0¾" 242 Oklahoma State 52 182
Willie Smith OT 6'5⅜" 310 East Carolina 52 183
Julius Thomas TE 6'4⅝" 246 Portland State 52 Denver 32(129) 184
Cortez Allen CB 6'1¼" 197 Citadel 51 Pittsburgh 31(128) 185
Will Hill S 6'0¾" 202 Florida 51 186
Owen Marecic FB 6'0½" 248 Stanford 51 Cleveland 27(124) 187
Terrence Toliver WR 6'3½" 212 LSU 51 188
Christopher Conte S 6'2⅜" 197 California 50 Chicago 29(93) 189
Ronald Johnson WR 5'11¼" 199 USC 50 San Francisco 17(182) 190
Anthony Gaitor CB 5'9⅞" 175 Florida International 49 Tampa Bay 19(222) 191
David Sims S 5'9¼" 200 Iowa State 49 192
Brandon Bair DT 6'5⅞" 276 Oregon 49 193
Derek Newton OT 6'4⅞" 311 Arkansas State 49 Houston 11(214) 194
Kai Forbath PK 5'10⅝" 191 UCLA 49 195
Greg McElroy QB 6'1⅞" 220 Alabama 49 NY Jets 5(208) 196
Anthony Allen RB 6'0¾" 228 Georgia Tech 49 Baltimore 22(225) 197
Daniel Hardy TE 6'3¾" 249 Idaho 49 Tampa Bay 35(238) 198
Ryan Winterswyk DE 6'4⅛" 268 Boise State 48 199
Shaun Chapas FB 6'2⅛" 247 Georgia 48 Dallas 17(220) 200
Ranked Players
NAME POS HT WT SCHOOL GRADE DRAFTED BY PK(OVR) OVR RANK
Keith Williams OG 6'4¼" 318 Nebraska 48 Pittsburgh 31(196) 201
Brian Rolle OLB 5'9⅝" 229 Ohio State 48 Philadelphia 28(193) 202
Ryan Jones CB 5'11⅛" 197 Northwest Missouri State 47 203
Martin Parker DT 6'2⅛" 303 Richmond 47 204
Zack Pianalto TE 6'3¼" 256 North Carolina 47 205
Kealoha Pilares WR 5'9⅞" 199 Hawaii 47 Carolina 1(132) 206
Byron Maxwell CB 6'0¼" 202 Clemson 46 Seattle 8(173) 207
Mark LeGree S 5'11½" 210 Appalachian State 46 Seattle 25(156) 208
T.J. Yates QB 6'3⅝" 221 North Carolina 46 Houston 21(152) 209
Weslye Saunders TE 6'5⅛" 270 South Carolina 46 210
Denarius Moore WR 5'11⅝" 194 Tennessee 46 Oakland 17(148) 211
Deunta Williams S 6'1¾" 205 North Carolina 45 212
Mike Mohamed ILB 6'3" 239 California 45 Denver 24(189) 213
Brandon Fusco OC 6'4" 306 Slippery Rock 45 Minnesota 7(172) 214
Ryan Whalen WR 6'1⅛" 202 Stanford 45 Cincinnati 2(167) 215
Zach Clayton DT 6'2" 299 Auburn 44 Tennessee 9(212) 216
Garrett Chisolm OG 6'5⅜" 312 South Carolina 44 217
Ryan Donahue PT 6'2⅛" 193 Iowa 44 218
Graig Cooper RB 5'10" 205 Miami (FL) 44 219
Charlie Gantt TE 6'4" 252 Michigan State 44 220
Kris Durham WR 6'5¼" 214 Georgia 44 Seattle 10(107) 221
Korey Lindsey CB 5'10⅛" 182 Southern Illinois 43 Cincinnati 4(207) 222
De'Aundre Reed DE 6'3⅞" 261 Arizona 43 Minnesota 12(215) 223
Chris White ILB 6'2¾" 240 Mississippi State 43 Buffalo 4(169) 224
Maurice Hurt OG 6'2⅝" 318 Florida 43 Washington 14(217) 225
Byron Stingily OT 6'5" 312 Louisville 43 Tennessee 10(175) 226
Nathan Enderle QB 6'4⅛" 240 Idaho 43 Chicago 29(160) 227
Armon Binns WR 6'3" 209 Cincinnati 43 228
Justin Rogers CB 5'10½" 180 Richmond 42 Buffalo 3(206) 229
Alexander Linnenkohl OC 6'1¾" 304 Oregon State 42 230
Mario Addison OLB 6'2⅝" 245 Troy 42 231
Joe Torchia TE 6'5⅜" 258 Virginia 42 232
Terrance Turner WR 6'1¾" 220 Indiana 42 233
Jerrell Powe DT 6'1¾" 335 Mississippi 41 Kansas City 34(199) 234
Richard Henry OG 6'2¾" 308 Nebraska 41 235
Tori Gurley WR 6'4⅛" 216 South Carolina 41 236
Pierre Allen DE 6'3½" 273 Nebraska 40 237
Michael Holmes S 5'9⅞" 181 Syracuse 40 238
Sealver Siliga DT 6'1¾" 305 Utah 40 239
Henry Hynoski FB 6'0⅜" 257 Pittsburgh 40 240
Derrell Smith ILB 6'0" 243 Syracuse 40 241
J.T. Thomas OLB 6'1" 241 West Virginia 40 Chicago 30(195) 242
Josh Davis OT 6'7⅛" 331 Georgia 40 243
Allen Bradford RB 5'11⅞" 242 USC 40 Tampa Bay 22(187) 244
Devon Torrence CB 5'11⅝" 199 Ohio State 39 245
Ugo Chinasa DE 6'4⅞" 264 Oklahoma State 39 246
Jerrard Tarrant S 6'0⅜" 204 Georgia Tech 39 247
Adam Grant OT 6'6" 325 Arizona 39 248
Chas Henry PT 6'3⅜" 220 Florida 39 249
John Clay RB 6'0½" 230 Wisconsin 39 250
Ranked Players
NAME POS HT WT SCHOOL GRADE DRAFTED BY PK(OVR) OVR RANK
Schuylar Oordt TE 6'5¾" 261 Northern Iowa 39 251
Stephen Burton WR 6'1⅜" 221 West Texas A&M 39 Minnesota 33(236) 252
John Graves DT 6'3" 286 Virginia Tech 38 253
Julian Vandervelde OG 6'1⅞" 301 Iowa 38 Philadelphia 30(161) 254
Michael Smith OT 6'5½" 289 Nebraska 38 255
Pat Devlin QB 6'3⅜" 225 Delaware 38 256
Da'Rel Scott RB 5'11" 211 Maryland 38 NY Giants 18(221) 257
Kyle Adams TE 6'4⅝" 250 Purdue 38 258
Carl Moore WR 6'2½" 222 Florida 38 259
Jonathan Nelson CB 5'10⅜" 197 Oklahoma 37 St. Louis 26(229) 260
Alex Wujciak ILB 6'2½" 245 Maryland 37 261
Jabara Williams OLB 6'2¼" 223 Stephen F. Austin 37 St. Louis 25(228) 262
Derrell Johnson-Koulianos WR 5'11¾" 204 Iowa 37 263
Andrew McGee CB 5'11¼" 195 Oklahoma State 36 264
Justin Trattou DE 6'3⅜" 255 Florida 36 265
Stanley Havili FB 6'0¼" 227 USC 36 Philadelphia 37(240) 266
Bryant Browning OG 6'4" 319 Ohio State 36 267
Kyle Hix OT 6'6⅞" 319 Texas 36 268
Dan Baily PK 6'0⅛" 198 Oklahoma State 36 269
Matt Bosher PT 6'0⅝" 207 Miami (FL) 36 Atlanta 27(192) 270
Mario Fannin RB 5'10⅜" 231 Auburn 36 271
Jamel Hamler WR 6'1" 193 Fresno State 36 272
Rick Elmore DE 6'4½" 255 Arizona 35 Green Bay 32(197) 273
Sione Fua DT 6'1½" 308 Stanford 35 Carolina 33(97) 274
Ray Dominguez OG 6'4" 334 Arkansas 35 275
Richard Lapham OT 6'8⅛" 315 Boston College 35 276
Jamie Harper RB 5'11⅜" 233 Clemson 35 Tennessee 33(130) 277
Preston Dial TE 6'2⅛" 238 Alabama 34 278
Kevin Rutland CB 5'11⅝" 190 Missouri 34 279
Cheta Ozougwu DE 6'1⅝" 247 Rice 34 Houston 51(254) 280
Greg Lloyd ILB 6'1⅛" 246 Connecticut 34 Philadelphia 34(237) 281
Adrian Moten OLB 6'1⅝" 228 Maryland 34 282
Kevin Hughes OT 6'3⅝" 302 Southeastern Louisiana 34 283
Darren Evans RB 6'0" 227 Virginia Tech 34 284
Allen Reisner TE 6'2¼" 248 Iowa 33 285
Detron Lewis WR 5'11" 211 Texas Tech 33 286
Brandyn Thompson CB 5'9¼" 189 Boise State 33 Washington 10(213) 287
Kris O'Dowd OC 6'4⅛" 304 USC 33 288
D.J. Smith OLB 5'10⅝" 239 Appalachian State 33 Green Bay 21(186) 289
Noel Devine RB 5'7½" 179 West Virginia 33 290
Cameron Kenny WR 6'0" 192 Oklahoma 33 291
Zaccheus Etheridge S 5'11½" 201 Auburn 32 292
Zane Taylor OC 6'2½" 309 Utah 32 293
Justin Boren OG 6'2⅞" 309 Ohio State 32 294
Jeremiha Hunter OLB 6'0½" 239 Iowa 32 295
Byron Bell OT 6'4¾" 337 New Mexico 32 296
Scott Tolzien QB 6'2" 209 Wisconsin 32 297
Vailala Taua RB 5'9½" 213 Nevada 32 298
Will Yeatman TE 6'5¾" 270 Maryland 31 299
DeAndre Brown WR 6'5⅝" 233 Southern Miss 32 300
Ranked Players
NAME POS HT WT SCHOOL GRADE DRAFTED BY PK(OVR) OVR RANK
Loyce Means CB 5'9¾" 177 Houston 31 301
Markus White DE 6'3½" 266 Florida State 31 Washington 21(224) 302
Dejon Gomes S 5'11½" 208 Nebraska 31 Washington 15(146) 303
Ladi Ajiboye DT 6'1⅜" 297 South Carolina 31 304
Jeff Tarpinian ILB 6'1¾" 237 Iowa 31 305
Tim Barnes OC 6'3¾" 297 Missouri 31 306
Carl Johnson OG 6'5" 361 Florida 31 307
Nathan Bussey OLB 6'1" 217 Illinois 31 New Orleans 40(243) 308
Jarriel King OT 6'5" 317 South Carolina 31 309
Thomas Weber PK 6'0½" 200 Arizona State 31 310
Reid Forrest PT 6'0" 193 Washington State 31 311
Taylor Potts QB 6'4" 220 Texas Tech 31 312
Evan Royster RB 5'11⅝" 212 Penn State 31 Washington 12(177) 313
Lester Jean WR 6'3" 215 Florida Atlantic 31 314
Cameron Graham TE 6'3⅛" 244 Louisville 31 315
Christopher Neild DT 6'1¾" 319 West Virginia 31 Washington 50(253) 316

[Dave Lane]

No. For some reason I can't get any pages to load on my KnowMo2724 account and if a page does happen to load it takes two or three minutes to do so, or it will take me to the Chiefs Planet index page.

I actually find the people here hilarious and enjoy CP more than Broncos sites. The Orange Mane is too slow paced and half the posters there just want to argue about how bad the Broncos are or how Pat Bowlen has been secretly running the Broncos draft room and not letting the front office draft DT's for the past 30 years:rolleyes:.... The official Broncos board sucks.

Ahahahaha they miserable usered him ! ROFL ROFL

[patteeu]

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/rankings

Dunno who compiles this one. It's through ESPN insider, but I have a membership. I think it might be an amalgamation of both McShay's and Kiper's boards.

Apologies for the jumbled mess. The information is there, though. The final number in each column is the player ranking, and they're listed in order. I don't know how to make it nice and neat, that's all.

...

OK, I went through and did the AFC West teams using that data and here's what I got:

Kansas City Chiefs 228.0
Denver Broncos -69.5
San Diego Chargers -340.5
Oakland Raiders -779.0

The Raiders took a serious plunge because McShay/Kiper really didn't like their first 3 picks (according to this data). Here are the first three players the Raiders took followed by the spot at which they were taken and M/K's ranking. The number in parentheses is the value difference between the two.

Stefen Wisniewski 48 / 146 (-514 pts)
DeMarcus Van Dyke 81 / 115 (-154 pts)
Joe Barksdale 92 / 139 (-182 pts)

The other big difference I notice here is that McShay/Kiper really like Denver's first 7th round pick. They had Virgil Green ranked at 79 but the Broncos took him with the 204th pick overall yielding a +320 pts. That seems weird, but that's what it looks like.

[Okie_Apparition]

Has KnowMo and Rex Ryan ever been seen in the same room?

[RealSNR]

OK, I went through and did the AFC West teams using that data and here's what I got:

Kansas City Chiefs 228.0
Denver Broncos -69.5
San Diego Chargers -340.5
Oakland Raiders -779.0

The Raiders took a serious plunge because McShay/Kiper really didn't like their first 3 picks (according to this data). Here are the first three players the Raiders took followed by the spot at which they were taken and M/K's ranking. The number in parentheses is the value difference between the two.

Stefen Wisniewski 48 / 146 (-514 pts)
DeMarcus Van Dyke 81 / 115 (-154 pts)
Joe Barksdale 92 / 139 (-182 pts)

The other big difference I notice here is that McShay/Kiper really like Denver's first 7th round pick. They had Virgil Green ranked at 79 but the Broncos took him with the 204th pick overall yielding a +320 pts. That seems weird, but that's what it looks like.
:thumb: Nice!

Looks like McShay and Kiper are just stupid idiots, that's all.

[listopencil]

I would hope they came out on top using their OWN board and having a top five pick in each round.

Goddamn boy. You are ****ing stupid.
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Look, I know he's a blind homer but what he said is no dumber than the premise of this thread. For one chart Patteeu is using a Draft mock site. Meh. There are loads of sites with loads of mocks and they differ substantially after the first round. On the other chart Patteeu is using the members of Chiefs Planet to grade the picks. Now that is incredibly laughable. Who really gives a flying fuck what the CP draftniks think about pick value except the Chiefs fans of this board when the data appears to reflect well on KC? Strange as it seems KnowMo has a valid point. The Bronco FO value ranking on their picks is just as valid as this, because it's equally slanted.

[patteeu]

Look, I know he's a blind homer but what he said is no dumber than the premise of this thread. For one chart Patteeu is using a Draft mock site. Meh. There are loads of sites with loads of mocks and they differ substantially after the first round. On the other chart Patteeu is using the members of Chiefs Planet to grade the picks. Now that is incredibly laughable. Who really gives a flying **** what the CP draftniks think about pick value except the Chiefs fans of this board when the data appears to reflect well on KC? Strange as it seems KnowMo has a valid point. The Bronco FO value ranking on their picks is just as valid as this, because it's equally slanted.

You're just jealous that the Chiefs' draft was so much better (on paper at least) than the Broncos'. I suspect that you'd be hard pressed to find a reasonably mainstream mock draft that would change the relative outcome of this analysis this year. This is ChiefsPlanet so it made sense to use the Official CP Mock for fun, but it wasn't intended to be the final say in the matter. The WalterFootball Mock isn't the final say in the matter either, but it's an objective baseline relative to the Broncos and the Chiefs.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Meh, the Chiefs won the draft in the AFC West and it really isn't close :thumb: