Moeaki Excited To Work With Stanzi Again

[vailpass]

From the Iowa City Press Citizen (if repost sucky sucky long time)

Moeaki excited to work with Stanzi again

Tony Moeaki was driving across Iowa on Saturday when he peeked down for a second to see who the Kansas City Chiefs selected in the fifth round of the NFL draft.

“I almost crashed,” the rookie tight end said of his reaction when Kansas City picked Iowa quarterback Ricky Stanzi.

Yes, Moeaki was so excited about the thought of being reunited with the quarterback who tossed him passes for two seasons with the Hawkeyes that he nearly drove off the road.

Moeaki said he fully endorsed Stanzi when two team officials quizzed him about the Iowa quarterback before the draft.

“It was pretty extensive,” Moeaki said. “They do their homework on every player. Me and Rick are really close friends, so obviously they’re going to ask me questions about him.”

There were a few more Stanzi questions that came Moeaki’s way Wednesday night during a 90-minute autograph session with former Hawkeyes Jeff Tarpinian and Brett Morse at Active Endeavors. Moeaki signed replica Kansas City No. 81 jerseys and photos of the one-handed touchdown catch he made in his third NFL game.

“I went to Tony’s last game in Kansas City,” Tarpinian said. “You wouldn’t believe how much Hawkeye gear and 81 jerseys there are already.”

Moeaki quickly became a fan favorite as a rookie. He caught a touchdown pass in the season opener against San Diego and pulled down the highlight-reel catch two weeks later against San Francisco, a grab that ESPN ranked the No. 2 play of the season.

Moeaki finished the season with 47 catches for 556 yards and three touchdowns. He caught at least three passes in 10 games.

“It was awesome just being a part of such a great organization,” he said. “It was a blessing. I’m really glad they picked me up. It was a great situation for me. We made the playoffs. We didn’t go as far as we wanted to. We’re not satisfied with just going to the playoffs. Hopefully we’ll build off that.”

Moeaki is among the pack of former Hawkeyes who have returned to Iowa City to train under Iowa strength and conditioning coach Chris Doyle during the NFL lockout. He caught passes Wednesday morning from his future and former quarterback and talked about the Chiefs playbook.

“It’s going to be a great fit for Rick,” Moeaki said. “We have a good quarterback group in Kansas City, so they’ll push each other.”

Moeaki said Stanzi will step into a system in Kansas City that’s similar to the one he ran at Iowa. He said some of the plays are called the same.

“I went nuts (when the Chiefs picked Stanzi),” said Tarpinian, Stanzi’s roommate at Iowa. “I was so happy for him. We talked about that, that if that happened it would be great if anybody got to go to Kansas City with Tony. Tony’s always been one of our best friends. Rick was fired up about it.”

http://hawkcentral.com/2011/05/04/moeaki-excited-to-work-with-stanzi-again/

[Fritz88]

I hope Stanzi can prove me wrong but I am not too sold on him.

[milkman]

Stanzi almost got Moeaki killed, again...

[Simply Red]

I hadn't thought about it much since the draft outcome - It'll be pretty dope having TWO D.Bowes AND Moeaki, who I'd forgotten about.

I can't wait to see what Casshole can or can't do. Mel Kiper loved the Iowa QB - literally slobbing on his cock.

[teedubya]

I wonder what the #1 play of the year was... cool that Moeaki's was #2.

[DBOSHO]

I THINK it was desean jacksons punt return against NYG

[Deberg_1990]

Not sure how much he will get to "work" with him since Moeaki will be 1st team, and Stanzi 2nd or 3rd....

[Simply Red]

Not sure how much he will get to "work" with him since Moeaki will be 1st steam, and Stanzi 2nd or 3rd....

Steam? Like a steaming-pile? - because generally that's what the Chiefs field. Nyuck, Nyuck...

[-King-]

I wonder what the #1 play of the year was... cool that Moeaki's was #2.

If I had to guess, I'd guess that it was the DeSean Jackson return against the Giants.

[RealSNR]

The way I look at it:

If Cassel can improve to his mediocre self that he is now, imagine what Stanzi can do.

People don't like so many of the things that Stanzi did when he was QB at Iowa, but they're not considering what Ricky could do with time on the bench learning the playbook and getting accustomed to the NFL. He could be a good QB.

I'm not anointing him, but I'm spreading hope. It's something I haven't had in the Chiefs' QB position since we drafted Brodie, so I'm savoring the moment.

[Simply Red]

The way I look at it:

If Cassel can improve to his mediocre self that he is now, imagine what Stanzi can do.

People don't like so many of the things that Stanzi did when he was QB at Iowa, but they're not considering what Ricky could do with time on the bench learning the playbook and getting accustomed to the NFL. He could be a good QB.

I'm not anointing him, but I'm spreading hope. It's something I haven't had in the Chiefs' QB position since we drafted Brodie, so I'm savoring the moment.

they were showing reels of his throws as Kiper simultaneously was bobbing on his penis. Ya' know - I'm not a professional scout, no doubt about that. But doesn't his arm seem a tad weak? Seems his throws were taking a long time to get to their intented target.

[RealSNR]

they were showing reels of his throws as Kiper simultaneously was bobbing on his penis. Ya' know - I'm not a professional scout, no doubt about that. But doesn't his arm seem a tad weak? Seems his throws were taking a long time to get to their intented target.
Tom Brady says, "It's cool man. Don't worry about it. That was my knock at Michigan and just look at me now"

http://www.mjbsportsnetwork.com/wp-content/uploads/Tom-Brady.jpg

[Simply Red]

Tom Brady says, "It's cool man. Don't worry about it. That was my knock at Michigan and just look at me now"

http://www.mjbsportsnetwork.com/wp-content/uploads/Tom-Brady.jpg

Normally I don't talk about Football on here. But REALLY, several people called that pick one of the best VALUES in the draft, I heard about three different people speaking of it. TMK though, Kiper is the only one who actually went down on him. Thank God.

[CoMoChief]

Here's the way I look at it...and it more hurts the fact that there is a lockout right now, thus not being able to proceed in FA.......

BUT

I bet the Chiefs sign a vet QB as a backup (once lockout ends). Having Stanzi as a #2 really is just as bad as having Croyle there. Croyle isn't coming back. And somehow we try to land Palko onto the PS.

[RealSNR]

Here's the way I look at it...and it more hurts the fact that there is a lockout right now, thus not being able to proceed in FA.......

BUT

I bet the Chiefs sign a vet QB as a backup (once lockout ends). Having Stanzi as a #2 really is just as bad as having Croyle there. Croyle isn't coming back. And somehow we try to land Palko onto the PS.The Patriots always have late round QB prospects as backups. Works out just fine for them.

When Aaron Rodgers first got going in the NFL, all he had was Matt Flynn, a 7th rounder who many thought was a more up-to-date version of Ken Dorsey.

Chase Daniel backs up Brees. Jim Sorgi backs up Manning.

The list goes on and on. We're fine with Stanzi. If Cassel goes down, throw Stanzi in there and see what he can do.

[vailpass]

You guys suck. I'd love to have 2 Hawks on the team I root for.

[RealSNR]

You guys suck. I'd love to have 2 Hawks on the team I root for.
I'm really surprised about all the griping I hear about Stanzi.

For a 5th round QB, he's great. He's probably got the best future of any QB we've drafted in 20 years.

Who else were we going to draft? Nathan "Hope you can catch it on the ground" Enderle? More like Nathan Getoutofme.

Yates? Overrated as hell. He's got a duck launcher for an arm, and it's not like he was so much more accurate than Stanzi.

Decision-making can change when guys come into the NFL. Just ask Matt Ryan, who threw tons of interceptions in his senior year at Boston College

[vailpass]

I'm really surprised about all the griping I hear about Stanzi.

For a 5th round QB, he's great. He's probably got the best future of any QB we've drafted in 20 years.

Who else were we going to draft? Nathan "Hope you can catch it on the ground" Enderle? More like Nathan Getoutofme.

Yates? Overrated as hell. He's got a duck launcher for an arm, and it's not like he was so much more accurate than Stanzi.

Decision-making can change when guys come into the NFL. Just ask Matt Ryan, who threw tons of interceptions in his senior year at Boston College

Absolutely. If Stanzi goes tits-up and never plays a snap so what? That's what 5th rounders are for, taking shot without risking much. Stanzi plays in the same system as KC and is a known commodity to the KC coaches.

Some of the same people who bitch about it are probably the same people who bitch about KC not growing their own QB. You can't do that unless you draft one.

[Simply Red]

I'm really surprised about all the griping I hear about Stanzi.

For a 5th round QB, he's great. He's probably got the best future of any QB we've drafted in 20 years.

Who else were we going to draft? Nathan "Hope you can catch it on the ground" Enderle? More like Nathan Getoutofme.

Yates? Overrated as hell. He's got a duck launcher for an arm, and it's not like he was so much more accurate than Stanzi.

Decision-making can change when guys come into the NFL. Just ask Matt Ryan, who threw tons of interceptions in his senior year at Boston College


RECOGNIZE!!!


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[Hammock Parties]

I'm really surprised about all the griping I hear about Stanzi.

For a 5th round QB, he's great. He's probably got the best future of any QB we've drafted in 20 years.

Who else were we going to draft? Nathan "Hope you can catch it on the ground" Enderle? More like Nathan Getoutofme.

Yates? Overrated as hell. He's got a duck launcher for an arm, and it's not like he was so much more accurate than Stanzi.

Decision-making can change when guys come into the NFL. Just ask Matt Ryan, who threw tons of interceptions in his senior year at Boston College

Picking Stanzi in the 5th makes me wonder why the fuck we had to spend a 3rd on Brokie.

[BossChief]

I wonder how long it will take for Stanzi to surpass Cassel in the coaches views...If at all, of course.

My guess is somewhere in the middle of his second year.

[BossChief]

Picking Stanzi in the 5th makes me wonder why the **** we had to spend a 3rd on Brokie.

Gosh, I remember the day we drafted Brodie...so excited.

It's a shame his body never held up long enough to give him a legit shot at developing. I always thought he could have been good.

...

But, yeah...that post made me think of Carl Peterson laughing his ass off.

[Hammock Parties]

I wonder how long it will take for Stanzi to surpass Cassel in the coaches views...If at all, of course.

My guess is somewhere in the middle of his second year.

Holy SHIT dude.

Oak/Bal really dropped Cassel in your eyes, eh?

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

After the article Dave Lane posted on Stanzi I am enthused!

[BossChief]

Holy SHIT dude.

Oak/Bal really dropped Cassel in your eyes, eh?(started this post on phone, will post a follow up in a few as the screen you type into is limited and is currently full)

Its a combination of a few things actually, but yeah that's a HUGE factor into it.

I have always weighed certain things heavier than others in quarterbacks.

1) ability to protect the ball
2) ability to attack with the ball effectively, this means you take your shots when they are there.
3) ability to step up when the level of opposition does, playing at a equal or greater level against better teams is one of the most important things to look at in developing quarterbacks.
4) ability to take to coaching and improve their weaknesses
5) protect field position

[RedThat]

I wonder how long it will take for Stanzi to surpass Cassel in the coaches views...If at all, of course.

My guess is somewhere in the middle of his second year.

I see you are a Hawkeyes fan, and I remember you conceived the thought of the Chiefs taking Stanzi in the 2nd round.

I don't know much about Stanzi nor follow Hawkeye football. If you don't mind me asking you, what do you see in this kid? What are some of the intangibles he possesses that could make him an effective quarterback in the NFL. And how do you see him becoming better than Cassel? A better question would be what makes Stanzi better than Cassel or why do you think he could potentially beat him out for the starting quarterback spot in the future?

[BossChief]

(started this post on phone, will post a follow up in a few as the screen you type into is limited and is currently full)

Its a combination of a few things actually, but yeah that's a HUGE factor into it.

I have always weighed certain things heavier than others in quarterbacks.

1) ability to protect the ball
2) ability to attack with the ball effectively, this means you take your shots when they are there.
3) ability to step up when the level of opposition does, playing at a equal or greater level against better teams is one of the most important things to look at in developing quarterbacks.
4) ability to take to coaching and improve their weaknesses
5) protect field position

These are things that both Cassel and Stanzi have both shown to be able to do to varying extents.

I just see the difference being when the pressure/competition goes up, Stanzi has shown the ability to step up his play to help his team win. Against ranked teams and in Bowl games, he actually played better. Maybe this equates to him playing as well as or better in the playoffs as he does in regular season games in the NFL as well, if he ever gets a chance (ala Brady)...I think it WILL translate.

Cassel went into a shell against both Oakland and Baltimore, when we needed him the most. Not throwing a single pass to Bowe was inexcusable to me. Especially when Bowe had two steps on his defender and was waving his arms only to watch Cassel throw a INT on a dump off pass...that showed me that he took his eyes off his targets downfield and still made a bad mistake.

Can he improve? ABSOLUTELY, I think he WILL improve...under Zorn, his level of coaching has stayed elite and with his work ethic, he will undoubtedly improve...but some things cant really be coached. The playoffs separate the men form the boys and he needs to be able to make plays against defenses like Baltimores if we are to advance at that point. Players like Rodgers, Rothlisberger, Brees and such, get hit and come right back out swinging...Cassel seems to have a propensity to get hit and stop throwing punches and that bothers the shit out of me.

He didnt show the ability to play fearlessly against those teams and this upcoming year, he will NEED to do that consistently for us to have a legit shot. His body language against Baltimore was sad at times. Very unleaderesque.

Im on the fence as to if he can do that or not....Im pulling for him, but I am not holding my breathe.

Thats where my comment about at what point Stanzi will surpass him (if ever) comes into play.

The way I think it will play out is Cassel will improve, but not at the rate he NEEDS to at his present age. I think he repeatedly shits the bed next year against top tier defenses that take away what he wants to do and force him out of his comfort zone, but no way does he get yanked for it.

He will be given every chance imaginable next year to stay on the field to learn, but if he gets exposed next year he will be in a real competition the following one.

Stanzi has had good team coaching, but hasnt ever had a position coach like Zorn and is in a privileged position right now to learn from one of the best while on the sidelines. He will learn more in the first few months of Zorns coaching than he has all 4 years at Iowa and I think a lot of the things that are perceived weaknesses in Stanzis game are surely coachable.

Im not at home where my internet is fast enough to post his stats during his 3 starting years at Iowa in games against ranked teams and in the Bowl games, but let me assure you, he made plays in almost all of those games to help us win...lots more than Cassel has shown the ability to do in his time as a starter.

All without any draftable receivers to help him.

I know Im a Iowa homer, no doubt, but I see Stanzi as 90% Cassel and 10% Brady...I think that if the staff feels Cassel isnt showing the ability to take it up a notch or two against the better teams on our schedule, Stanzi will get a shot to prove he can.

I guess we'll see soon enough...hopefully, they figure things out so that we actually have a season to have these things sorted out.

I VERY MUCH see next years schedule as a make or break year for Cassels career.

[BossChief]

I see you are a Hawkeyes fan, and I remember you conceived the thought of the Chiefs taking Stanzi in the 2nd round.

I don't know much about Stanzi nor follow Hawkeye football. If you don't mind me asking you, what do you see in this kid? What are some of the intangibles he possesses that could make him an effective quarterback in the NFL. And how do you see him becoming better than Cassel? A better question would be what makes Stanzi better than Cassel or why do you think he could potentially beat him out for the starting quarterback spot in the future?

If you have more specific questions about my thoughts on Stanzi after reading the last couple posts and after reading through my Stanzi thread I started in the middle of last year....let me know.

Id be glad to answer them.

[RealSNR]

If you have more specific questions about my thoughts on Stanzi after reading the last couple posts and after reading through my Stanzi thread I started in the middle of last year....let me know.

Id be glad to answer them.What color are his eyes?

NO PEAKING!

[BossChief]

What color are his eyes?

NO PEAKING!

on gameday?

Chiefs red

[ncCHIEFfan]

Good answer

[Extra Point]

RICKY FUCKIN' STANZI!!!!!11111!!!!!!!!!!

Tall white boy, able to date models. WGAS about a weak arm? Don't we already have a QB with a reputed weak arm, that everyone's bitched about?

A playing QB drafted to back up a back up, will be worth watching in 3 seasons.

Good job, Pioli!!

[Willie Lanier]

Stanzi will be the next Jake plummer skillset without the attitude, a great backup

[Okie_Apparition]

Going off the road in Iowa? Was he getting head while taking the tractor to the farm down the road while crossing a 1 lane bridge.

[TRR]

These are things that both Cassel and Stanzi have both shown to be able to do to varying extents.

I just see the difference being when the pressure/competition goes up, Stanzi has shown the ability to step up his play to help his team win. Against ranked teams and in Bowl games, he actually played better. Maybe this equates to him playing as well as or better in the playoffs as he does in regular season games in the NFL as well, if he ever gets a chance (ala Brady)...I think it WILL translate.

Cassel went into a shell against both Oakland and Baltimore, when we needed him the most. Not throwing a single pass to Bowe was inexcusable to me. Especially when Bowe had two steps on his defender and was waving his arms only to watch Cassel throw a INT on a dump off pass...that showed me that he took his eyes off his targets downfield and still made a bad mistake.

Can he improve? ABSOLUTELY, I think he WILL improve...under Zorn, his level of coaching has stayed elite and with his work ethic, he will undoubtedly improve...but some things cant really be coached. The playoffs separate the men form the boys and he needs to be able to make plays against defenses like Baltimores if we are to advance at that point. Players like Rodgers, Rothlisberger, Brees and such, get hit and come right back out swinging...Cassel seems to have a propensity to get hit and stop throwing punches and that bothers the shit out of me.

He didnt show the ability to play fearlessly against those teams and this upcoming year, he will NEED to do that consistently for us to have a legit shot. His body language against Baltimore was sad at times. Very unleaderesque.

Im on the fence as to if he can do that or not....Im pulling for him, but I am not holding my breathe.

Thats where my comment about at what point Stanzi will surpass him (if ever) comes into play.

The way I think it will play out is Cassel will improve, but not at the rate he NEEDS to at his present age. I think he repeatedly shits the bed next year against top tier defenses that take away what he wants to do and force him out of his comfort zone, but no way does he get yanked for it.

He will be given every chance imaginable next year to stay on the field to learn, but if he gets exposed next year he will be in a real competition the following one.

Stanzi has had good team coaching, but hasnt ever had a position coach like Zorn and is in a privileged position right now to learn from one of the best while on the sidelines. He will learn more in the first few months of Zorns coaching than he has all 4 years at Iowa and I think a lot of the things that are perceived weaknesses in Stanzis game are surely coachable.

Im not at home where my internet is fast enough to post his stats during his 3 starting years at Iowa in games against ranked teams and in the Bowl games, but let me assure you, he made plays in almost all of those games to help us win...lots more than Cassel has shown the ability to do in his time as a starter.

All without any draftable receivers to help him.

I know Im a Iowa homer, no doubt, but I see Stanzi as 90% Cassel and 10% Brady...I think that if the staff feels Cassel isnt showing the ability to take it up a notch or two against the better teams on our schedule, Stanzi will get a shot to prove he can.

I guess we'll see soon enough...hopefully, they figure things out so that we actually have a season to have these things sorted out.

I VERY MUCH see next years schedule as a make or break year for Cassels career.

You've went way overboard on Stanzi's stats in big games/bowl games.

Also, your comment about, "All without any draftable receivers to help him" is LAUGHABLE. His TE (Moeaki) was drafted, his other WR (Marvin McNutt) will definitely be drafted in 2012, and you forgot to mention him playing with Iowa's All-Time leading receiver, and one of the best WR's in the history of IA, DJK. The only reason he didn't go in the draft is because of his drug issue.

I like Stanzi, and glad KC took him late...but you are over-blowing his ability by leaps and bounds.
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[crazycoffey]

Stanzi almost got Moeaki killed, again...


ahhh haaa, I see what you did there...

[Dave Lane]

Here's the way I look at it...and it more hurts the fact that there is a lockout right now, thus not being able to proceed in FA.......

BUT

I bet the Chiefs sign a vet QB as a backup (once lockout ends). Having Stanzi as a #2 really is just as bad as having Croyle there. Croyle isn't coming back. And somehow we try to land Palko onto the PS.

Awesome with your non-endorsement of Stanzi, Canton can get started on the bust now.

[Dave Lane]

For those who haven't read this long but awesome thread...


**** it I'm giving this info its own thread. Its way too interesting to be buried in some other thread.

http://fantasyfootballmetrics.com/Pl..._2-23-2011.htm

NFL DRAFT 2011 - QB
By R.C. Fischer

NFL Draft 2011: Statistical Analysis of Ricky Stanzi, the Best QB in the 2011 NFL Draft and/or the next Tom Brady?

*An on-going series of putting college QBs in our mathematical analysis. We don’t have all the needed data until the 2011 NFL Combine results, but we can assume some of it (for now) and we have all the game performance/statistics.

See this link for details on the College QB rating system -- Predicting the Unpredictable…Projecting a College QB to the NFL with a Mathematical Formula

Ricky Stanzi, Iowa - NFL Draft 2011

I know you are going to find this completely insane...

New readers, I may have already lost you with the title...but bear with me on this. At worst, this will just be an interesting read and something you will say "no way" to. At best, this will be a tremendous call and huge validation for our mathematical model's ability to project college QBs to the NFL. (I also have a few years to hide from it potentially too!)

I have to confess I did not watch many Iowa Hawkeye football games this season. As the college QBs start their journey to the NFL, I get more interested for the Fantasy Football aspect. This season, I was aware of the usual "big names" -- Newton, Locker, Gabbert, Mallett and had been intrigued by Andy Dalton...but I have to say when I saw Ricky Stanzi's name on a list -- I wondered, "how did he make it in the QBs list for the 2011 NFL Draft"? Don't ask me why I had that reaction, I just know I did. Big-10 bias (against), maybe? Flashbacks to Chuck Long, perhaps? Whatever the reason, I just had an irrational gut reaction. Which is why I love what I do, I try to eliminate the emotional and just rely on the data. Not knowing Stanzi, I was curious as how the analysis would turn out.

As I input the key game/tougher opponent game data for Ricky Stanzi into our algorithm for analyzing college QBs, I just kept saying "that's pretty good" after each game entered...and it just kept rolling. Before I went to take a look at Stanzi's overall total score in our system I thought, "this could be pretty good". When I did finally look at the overall rating, it wasn't good -- it was great. It was college-to-NFL projected "elite". High up on the list wedged in-between Carson Palmer and Mark Sanchez, and slightly above Philip Rivers and Aaron Rodgers. I had to go back check a 2nd and 3rd time to see if I had made an error. No error...

Can Ricky Stanzi really be a future elite NFL QB? Can he really be the # 1 overall best QB (according to our system right now)? Right now he is for us. A lot of this potential stardom projection is riding on his Wonderlic scores from the NFL Combine, a bad score can tumble Stanzi right out of great and into maybe good or mediocre. Assuming an average/good Wonderlic score, Ricky Stanzi is the hidden gem QB of 2011.

What about Stanzi makes him pop in our system?

NO Red-flags in our system!

We found multiple things that future NFL elite QB's had in common in college. Subsequently, we found things future NFL bust/weak QB's had in common as well -- we called them, simply, "red-flag metrics". Some red-flags for the QBs are historical killers (90%+ probable), such as -- QB's with low Wonderlic scores, "short" (in height) QB's, high or low ratios on key advanced metrics we have on various passing stats. Just one red-flag is one foot in the grave for their future NFL elite prospects, 2 red-flags is almost an assured question mark on even being good in the NFL, 3+ red-flags is almost guaranteed a bust in our system (3+ red-flag QB examples in our system = Ryan Leaf, Tim Tebow, Chad Henne, Max Hall, Rex Grossman, Derek Anderson and Tavaris Jackson...among others. Jay Cutler is the probably the best NFL QB with 3+ red-flags in our system).

No red-flags is just not avoiding trouble, it is several key metrics that when we look back at history -- the QBs with particular red-flags in our system were not as good as hyped and/or "busted" from lofty expectations. Perhaps a list of current QBs in our mathematical system that have NO red-flags, will impress you on the fact that Ricky Stanzi could be special.

The 14 QBs with no red-flags of 60+ studied in the last decade (and a few outside of the last decade) *in alphabetical order:

Bradford, Sam
Brady, Tom
Elway, John (sketchy, we have yet to be able fully break him down due to some missing data...but of what we have, he has none)
Flacco, Joe
Kolb, Kevin
Leftwich, Byron
Luck, Andrew
Manning, Peyton
Palmer, Carson
Pike, Tony (may not belong here, we have a sketchy Wonderlic data point we have assumed neutral until we know...but if bad, he would fall off list)
Pennington, Chad
Rodgers, Aaron
Roethlisberger, Ben
Sanchez, Mark
14 QBs with no red-flags. Take away Andrew Luck because he is not even draft eligible. Take away John Elway and Tony Pike, because of some possible data question marks on our end and we have 11 QB's who have played in the NFL -- with 9 of the 11 (82%) as good, great and good/potentially great on this list. The 2 misses in our system so far are (1) Byron Leftwich is not elite, maybe not even good. (2) Kevin Kolb is incomplete (however, I think he will ultimately be star of this magnitude...those of you that have been with the site awhile know my Kolb love affair). If Kolb hits, then our NO red-flag indicator for future success would be up to a 91% accuracy of predicting NFL good/greatness.

It's a laundry list of mostly impressive QBs. Now add to that list Ricky Stanzi, the only 2011 QB prospect with no red-flags in our system currently. (Andrew Luck would have been too). I'm as shocked as you are...Ricky Stanzi, really?



Great against better competition

Stanzi had 3 major tests in conference in 2010, a Big-10 Conference in which Stanzi has started for 3 seasons...and these teams have a book on him. Facing Wisconsin (11-2), Michigan State (11-2) and Ohio State (12-1), Stanzi put up the following stats:

7 Passing TDs and NO Interceptions

The elite QBs of the NFL threw for between 15-19 Pass Attempts per Passing TD in "key" games, and some QBs hit as low (good) as 10-12 Pass Attempts per Passing TD. Stanzi averaged a very low (good) 11.9 Passing TDs per Pass Attempts in these 3 big matchups

Besides a stellar/perfect NO interceptions in these big 3 games, Stanzi hit on a 67.4% Completion Percentage as well

Iowa/Stanzi played the Arizona Wildcats this season, coached by defensive guru Mike Stoops. Stoops/Arizona only allowed two QBs to throw for 3+ TDs in a game against them this season -- not Andrew Luck (he had 2), but it was Oregon's Darron Thomas and yes...Ricky Stanzi.



Better than Gabbert in the 2010 Bowl Game vs. Missouri?

This may be crazy talk too, but hang with me...

Stanzi statistically bombed in one game in 2010 -- the Insight Bowl Game matchup against Missouri. Stanzi had no TDs and 2 INTs. Stanzi's only 2 INT game of the season. In that game Blaine Gabbert had 434 yards passing and won the hearts of everyone who just watched the game from a stat tally perspective. But was Gabbert really the better QB that day?

434 yards for Gabbert is awesome, but it was on 57 Pass Attempts. Stanzi only had 21 pass attempts in this game, in part because Iowa RB Marcus Coker had 33 carries for 219 yards. Why pass if you can run all over Mizzu, and win (which Iowa did)? Looking at the passing productivity by breaking it down to the view from the per passing attempts...a quick look at Gabbert vs. Stanzi in the Bowl Game from a different perspective:

Yards per Pass Attempt = 7.6 for Gabbert, 9.5 for Stanzi

Yards per Completion = 10.6 for Gabbert, 18.2 for Stanzi

If both QBs equally had 35 pass attempts at their above pace, Gabbert would have thrown for 266 yards to Stanzi's 332.

Not to say Stanzi had a great game...because it was his worst game of 2010. It's to point out that looking only at the totals -- Stanzi vs. Gabbert total stats in this game would have made Stanzi forgettable and Gabbert brilliant, but it really had to do more with Pass Attempt totals. Stanzi wasn't as bad as it seemed, and Gabbert wasn't near as impressive as his 434 yards would show. Gabbert also threw 2 INTs as well in this game (like Stanzi), and 1 TD.



Ricky Stanzi as the next Tom Brady?

Blasphemy I know...

Please keep in mind, I have no loyalty to the University of Iowa. I had seen Ricky Stanzi play a little before I started this research. Of what I remember, I didn't really remember anything great (or bad). Stanzi never registered anything in my mind. This statement comparing him to Brady is just as crazy to me as it is to you. However, I am now suddenly very intrigued (and hand-cuffed) to Ricky Stanzi with this statement.

When I went into to see why Stanzi was so good in our ratings, it wasn't just one good thing (it never is to achieve the scores the future elites ultimately did). It's just that Stanzi is well above average in every metric we judge, with no red-flags or outliers. His numbers parallel nicely against the best of today's NFL QBs data in college. When I started filtering Stanzi's metrics in our system and considered similar QBs around his height and weight...out popped Tom Brady. What is eerie and cheesy about that is, when I started researching Stanzi more because of the high score that popped up in our system analysis -- I went and watched some game tape and when I looked at him I exclaimed, "he looks just like Tom Brady". Tall, thin, accurate, steady. When I then filtered our college QB database of metrics and Brady was sitting there as a best match, I was amazed and felt weird at the same time. It's cliché' to say "the next Tom Brady", but the numbers are saying -- Ricky Stanzi might be the next Tom Brady.

A few key metrics on Brady & Stanzi below:

"Adj" means just key games/better competition -- weighted for strength of opponent

"per 35 att" numbers are the key games, weighted for strength of opponent and then translated into an average as if every QB had an equal 35 Pass Attempts per game all the time, and thus what would each QB produce if they had 35 passes per game based on the key games their final college season.

QB Yr College H W adj Comp Pct Adj Yds per Comp adj Pass Att per TD adj Pass Att Per INT Yds per game 35 Att TDs per game 35 Att INTs per game 35 Att
Brady, Tom 1999 Michigan 76.3 211 64.6% 11.8 15.0 37.9 266.3 2.3 0.9
Stanzi, Ricky 2010 Iowa 76.1 221 63.6% 12.5 15.5 57.7 277.6 2.3 0.6
A respected scouting report on Brady in 2000 pre-draft (found on a Google search) = "Poor build, very skinny and narrow, lacks mobility and the ability to avoid the rush, lacks a strong arm."

A scouting report I just read on Stanzi = "Average arm, nothing spectacular about his throws...Not a great runner...Limited ceiling because of his average physical talents..."



Ricky Stanzi Overall Score = 1.012

*see historical rating chart on link to original study = Predicting the Unpredictable…Projecting a College QB to the NFL with a Mathematical Formula

As I re-examine the numbers, another thing that is rare on Stanzi is -- that as we refine the numbers to looking at just the better opponents, then adding in a weighted system to the most difficult opponents -- that is where Stanzi's passing metrics actually increase. Where most all other QBs in our mathematical system tail off a little (understandably with facing the toughest competition) as we "weight" the stats for opponents difficulty...Stanzi actually improves his performance against the better competition.

All this is great for Ricky Stanzi now, but we're still assuming some data. If Stanzi bombs or underperforms the Wonderlic...no more Tom Brady comparisons, and down he will fall from possible elite to possible just mediocre/good. If Stanzi scores well on the Wonderlic don't be shocked if Stanzi starts moving from a current potential 4-5th Round pick to a 2nd-3rd Round pick...and then don't be shocked if he actually becomes a first round actual selection...you heard it here first (again, unless he bombs the Wonderlic). If Stanzi doesn't work his way into the 1st Round -- I'll bet a "smart" team snags Stanzi (like a NE, PIT, PHI, SD, etc) in the 2nd-3rd Round.
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[cdcox]

I think it's hilarious that we are talking about a 29 year old as a developing QB. No way anyone could have foreseen that events with Matt Cassel would develop like this.

[Bowser]

Moeaki said he fully endorsed Stanzi when two team officials quizzed him about the Iowa quarterback before the draft.

Wait, what?

[Chris Meck]

You know, he has the attributes. He's got the measurables. He's a smart kid. He's going to get good coaching. He's in a good position, meaning an ascending team where he can ride the bench for a while and learn.

I'm not ready to annoint him, but there's no reason to not be optimistic about the possibilities. I remember Brady at Michigan, and he wasn't all that great. They said a lot of the same things about him then that they say about Stanzi now.

But let's wait and see. It'll be fun, either way.

[Okie_Apparition]

Quote:
Originally Posted by vailpass
Moeaki said he fully endorsed Stanzi when two team officials quizzed him about the Iowa quarterback before the draft.



Wait, what?

Vailpass put that in the article hoping we would get draft picks taken away for contacting a player during a lockout. Chopblocking donkey

[BossChief]

For the people that like Cassel, but look at his advanced age as a big reason to hold back their optimism...you will love Ricky Stanzi.

[Okie_Apparition]

I can see the signs now: I CAN NOT STANZI ANYMORE CASSEL

[cdcox]

For the people that like Cassel, but look at his advanced age as a big reason to hold back their optimism...you will love Ricky Stanzi.

Give Stanzi a chance. Any comparisons to Cassel just make me want to hate him.

[Bump]

I can't wait until the season starts so I can read all of the START STANZI threads

[kysirsoze]

Quote:
Originally Posted by vailpass
Moeaki said he fully endorsed Stanzi when two team officials quizzed him about the Iowa quarterback before the draft.





Vailpass put that in the article hoping we would get draft picks taken away for contacting a player during a lockout. Chopblocking donkey

He was contacted during the window where the lockout was lifted.

[BossChief]

I can't wait until the season starts so I can read all of the START STANZI threads

Not from me.

I think Cassel has earned the right to lead this team next year.

If he struggles all year and opens next year also struggling...I'll be sure to post one.

I hope that doesn't happen though.

[vailpass]

Quote:
Originally Posted by vailpass
Moeaki said he fully endorsed Stanzi when two team officials quizzed him about the Iowa quarterback before the draft.





Vailpass put that in the article hoping we would get draft picks taken away for contacting a player during a lockout. Chopblocking donkey

Why would KC get penalized for talking to their own player about his former college QB?

[Tribal Warfare]

Give Stanzi a chance. Any comparisons to Cassel just make me want to hate him.

Stanzi started in college, I respect him by leaps and bounds more than Cassel. While Cassel was a literal career backup and being complacent about that from college to the pros.

[SAUTO]

Stanzi started in college, I respect him by leaps and bounds more than Cassel. While Cassel was a literal career backup and being complacent about that from college to the pros.

Shut
The
Fuck
Up
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[Fat Elvis]

I'm sorry, but everytime I see Stanzi's name I read it as St.nazi. Similar thing happens whenever I see the words angus beef; I read it as anus beef. It just isn't appetizing to me. Do I want a quarter pound pure anus beef burger? No thanks. Likewise, do I want a QB who wraps himself in nationalistic ideology named St.nazi leading my football team? Not so much.

[Phobia]

You guys suck. I'd love to have 2 Hawks on the team I root for.

Come on over.

[Hammock Parties]

I'm sorry, but everytime I see Stanzi's name I read it as St.nazi. Similar thing happens whenever I see the words angus beef; I read it as anus beef. It just isn't appetizing to me. Do I want a quarter pound pure anus beef burger? No thanks. Likewise, do I want a QB who wraps himself in nationalistic ideology named St.nazi leading my football team? Not so much.

Nazi quarterbacks rule. MASTER RACE!

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[kysirsoze]

I'm sorry, but everytime I see Stanzi's name I read it as St.nazi. Similar thing happens whenever I see the words angus beef; I read it as anus beef. It just isn't appetizing to me. Do I want a quarter pound pure anus beef burger? No thanks. Likewise, do I want a QB who wraps himself in nationalistic ideology named St.nazi leading my football team? Not so much.

lolwut?

[-King-]

Stanzi started in college, I respect him by leaps and bounds more than Cassel. While Cassel was a literal career backup and being complacent about that from college to the pros.

Stanzi isn't better than your all pro daddy though

[Okie_Apparition]

I AM, your KnowMo