Kansas City Royals @ Detroit Tigers Game Thread (5/13)

[alnorth]

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<tr> <td>Final</td> <td> 1 </td> <td> 2 </td><td> 3 </td><td> 4 </td><td> 5 </td><td> 6 </td><td> 7 </td><td> 8 </td><td> 9 </td><td> R </td><td> H </td><td> E </td></tr>
<tr> <td> KC (20-18) </td> <td> 0 </td> <td> 0 </td><td> 0 </td><td> 0 </td><td> 0 </td><td> 1 </td><td> 0 </td><td> 0 </td><td> 0 </td><td> 1 </td><td> 3 </td><td> 0 </td></tr>
<tr> <td> DET (21-18) </td> <td> 1 </td> <td> 1 </td><td> 0 </td><td> 1 </td><td> 0 </td><td> 0 </td><td> 0 </td><td> 0 </td><td> X </td><td> 3 </td><td> 7 </td><td> 0 </td></tr>
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Justin Verlander had a no-hitter through 5⅔ innings, broken up with a triple by Melky Cabrera.

http://kansascity.royals.mlb.com/images/logos/80x80/kc.png

Loss, (3-4) Luke Hochevar 6IP 3R 3ER 3BB 3K 2HR
Louis Coleman 1⅔IP 0R 0ER 0BB 2K
Tim Collins ⅓IP 0R 0ER 0BB 0K

VS.

http://kansascity.royals.mlb.com/images/logos/80x80/det.png

Win, (4-3) Justin Verlander 8IP 1R 1ER 3BB 7K
Save, (9) Jose Valverde 1IP 0R 0ER 0BB 2K

Home Runs

KC

none

DET

Austin Jackson, (3) - Bottom 1st solo shot to left
Jhonny Peralta, (5) - Bottom 4th solo shot to left

Royals Prospects Today

AAA: Johnny Giavotella 2/5, (1 double)
AAA: Mike Moustakas - day off
AAA: Lorenzo Cain 1/4
AAA: Danny Duffy, (SP) 4IP 4R 4ER 3BB 2K 1HR
AA: Christian Colon, (SS) 1/4
AA: Wil Myers - day off
AA: Salvador Perez, (C) 1/4, 2K
AA: Chris Dwyer, (SP) 4⅓IP 5R 5ER 2BB 5K 2HR
Adv. A: Rey Navarro, (2B) 3/6 (1 double, 1 triple)

Starting Lineups

KC

1. Chris Getz, 2B
2. Melky Cabrera, CF
3. Alex Gordon, LF
4. Billy Butler, DH
5. Jeff Francoeur, RF
6. Eric Hosmer, 1B
7. Mike Aviles, 3B
8. Matt Treanor, C
9. Alcides Escobar, SS

DET

1. Austin Jackson, CF
2. Grady Sizemore, 2B
3. Brennan Boesch, RF
3. Casper Wells, RF
4. Miguel Cabrera, 1B
5. Victor Martinez, DH
6. Don Kelly, LF
7. Jhonny Peralta, SS
8. Alex Avila, C
9. Brandon Inge, 3B

[Titty Meat]

Second place on the line!

[CoMoChief]

Verlander........sigh...greaaaat

[AndChiefs]

Let's see...he used up all his innings of no-hit ball last start which means we'll kill him.

Right? :)

[ReynardMuldrake]

Let's see...he used up all his innings of no-hit ball last start which means we'll kill him.

Right? :)

It's not going to be a no-hitter. I don't know why the media keeps saying that.

[AndChiefs]

It's not going to be a no-hitter. I don't know why the media keeps saying that.

Of course it's not going to be a no-hitter. But he is a very good pitcher and it's tough for any offense to break out on him.

[alnorth]

he did shut out Toronto, but before that the Yankees, White Sox, and even the Mariners were all able to score on him and get him out by the end of the 7th. No one has torched him yet recently, but he's beatable.

[Demonpenz]

the key with hitting verlander is making sure you get a good pitch to hit, then hit it hard somewhere.

[4th and Long]

the key with hitting verlander is making sure you get a good pitch to hit, then hit it hard somewhere.
Or any other pitcher for that matter ...

[sedated]

he did shut out Toronto, but before that the Yankees, White Sox, and even the Mariners were all able to score on him and get him out by the end of the 7th. No one has torched him yet recently, but he's beatable.

this will be key.

[Demonpenz]

Or any other pitcher for that matter ...

not really. The key to hitting hochaver is just to make sure he makes it to the mound

[4th and Long]

not really. The key to hitting hochaver is just to make sure he makes it to the mound
:facepalm:

[Kidd Lex]

not really. The key to hitting Davies/Chen/Francis is just to make sure they make it to the mound

FYP

[Demonpenz]

The key to hitting Rianna is just making sure she makes it to Chris Brown

[Kidd Lex]

The key to hitting Rianna is just making sure she makes it to Chris Brown

:LOL:

[sedated]

FYP

Chen? That guy has been nails since last year.

[teedubya]

Kill the Tigers x 2.

[AndChiefs]

Kill the Tigers x3

FYP

[Kidd Lex]

Chen? That guy has been nails since last year.

True, unless the wind is blowing out. Then hes fucked. I retract Chen from consideration.

[Brianfo]

Let's go Royals!! Let's go Royals!! Let's go Royals!!

[SPchief]

Lets do this shit

[alnorth]

Top 1st

Getz flies out to center
Cabrera grounds out to third
Gordon strikes out (looking)

0 runs, 0 hits

Bottom 1st

Jackson homers to left
Sizemore singles to left
Boesch flies out to left
Cabrera grounds into a 5-4-3 double play, Sizemore out at second

1 run, 2 hits

[stonedstooge]

Get to Verlander early guys

[kstater]

All radio for this series, then the next 5 in a row on TV here.

[stonedstooge]

Verlander with a no no through 1

[BillSelfsTrophycase]

JFC

[kstater]

That's the sign of the #1 pitcher.

[petegz28]

1 hit 1 run....JFC

[kstater]

Luke knew the ump would screw him over so he had to throw it over the middle/pete

[stonedstooge]

Batting practice?

[BillSelfsTrophycase]

:facepalm:

This start isn't going to end well

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

We coulda picked Tim Lincecum but nooooooooo.............

[alnorth]

Top 2nd

Butler walks
Francoeur flies out to right
Hosmer flies out to left, Butler to second
Aviles flies out to left

0 runs, 0 hits

Bottom 2nd

Martinez singles to right
Kelly singles to right, Martinez to third
Peralta strikes out (swinging)
Avila reaches on a 4-6 fielder's choice, Kelly out at second, Martinez scores
Inge grounds out to pitcher

1 run, 2 hits

[kstater]

Through all of that he only pitched 10 pitches? Crazy.

[BillSelfsTrophycase]

We coulda picked Tim Lincecum but nooooooooo.............

Or Longoria...

[teedubya]

Butler going to try to steal here isn't he? Lol

[stonedstooge]

Butler going to try to steal here isn't he? Lol

Too muddy

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

Or Longoria...

I know.... I just couldn't depress myself any further so I stuck with the pitching only thing...

[teedubya]

There we go. Heh.

[teedubya]

Come on Aviles.

[CoMoChief]

We coulda picked Tim Lincecum but nooooooooo.............

hey.....he wasn't pro ready enough when he was winning Cy youngs while Hoch was in the minors......DUH!!!:banghead::cuss:

[petegz28]

Luke is throwing batting practice

[Brianfo]

Luke is throwing batting practice

Would really like to know if he was a Dayton Moore pick. I don't think he was. Dayton has been nails in the draft since that abortion.

I don't know what the deal is. Hochevar has great stuff.

[petegz28]

Not even fucking close....terrible call

[milkman]

Juuust a little inside.

[Kidd Lex]

Would really like to know if he was a Dayton Moore pick. I don't think he was. Dayton has been nails in the draft since that abortion.

I don't know what the deal is. Hochevar has great stuff.

Strange parallel to Piolis 1st draft pick: TJAX. In that situation everyone was immediately fired from the old scouting department as well.

Why am I talking Chiefs this is obviously a Royals board these days...

[alnorth]

Top 3rd

Treanor strikes out (looking)
Escobar flies out to center
Getz grounds out to pitcher

0 runs, 0 hits

Bottom 3rd

Jackson walks
Sizemore pops out to second
Jackson steals second
Boesch singles to right, Jackson thrown out at home 9-3-2
Cabrera flies out to right

0 runs, 1 hit

[Blankey]

Just get 1 hit. I don't care if we lose 20-0

[teedubya]

Chris Getz-Outz

[stonedstooge]

Strange parallel to Piolis 1st draft pick: TJAX. In that situation everyone was immediately fired from the old scouting department as well.

Why am I talking Chiefs this is obviously a Royals board these days...

We all enjoy double doses of pain i.e. Royals/Chiefs

[SPchief]

Get the bullpen ready

[Oso]

holy shit

[stonedstooge]

The Rifleman strikes again

[kstater]

Wizard of Hoz

[BillSelfsTrophycase]

Don't test Frenchy

[SPchief]

Nice block

[BillSelfsTrophycase]

Nice Block

[milkman]

Great play.

Outstanding work by Treanor.

[alnorth]

They got the throw in quickly, but that was all Treanor. plate was completely roadblocked.

[milkman]

They got the throw in quickly, but that was all Treanor. plate was completely roadblocked.

It all has to come together.

The throws have to be quick and on target, and Treanor has to keep his position.

Great play all around.

[alnorth]

Top 4th

Cabrera grounds out to second
Gordon flies out to right
Butler grounds out to shortstop

0 runs, 0 hits

Bottom 4th

Martinez grounds out to first
Kelly grounds out to first 3-1
Peralta homers to left
Avila strikes out (swinging)

1 run, 1 hit

[petegz28]

JFC, Hochevar...another HR?

[BillSelfsTrophycase]

What's the record for home runs given up in a season?

[Blankey]

How the hell do you just throw it right down the middle like that.

[SPchief]

I think he was a little pissed about that one

[teedubya]

Worst overall #1 in MLB draft history?

[alnorth]

Top 5th

Francoeur flies out to center
Hosmer strikes out (looking)
Aviles grounds out to third

0 runs, 0 hits

Bottom 5th

Inge flies out to right
Jackson grounds out to shortstop
Sizemore strikes out (looking)

0 runs, 0 hits

[Blankey]

Fuck you ump

[stonedstooge]

Verlander killing us without a fastball

[alnorth]

Worst overall #1 in MLB draft history?

either Steve Chilcott (1966, Mets, injury) or Brien Taylor (1991, Yankees, hurt in an off-field fistfight).

Both overall #1 selections, neither played in a single major league game.

[milkman]

Worst overall #1 in MLB draft history?

Ever hear of Bryan Bollington?

Shawn Abner?

Paul Wilson?

[petegz28]

Another called 3rd strike out of the zone

[teedubya]

Five no hit innings? Fuck me.

[milkman]

**** you ump

Hosmer didn't see a single pitch in the strike zone.

[suzzer99]

Ump wanting to spend as little time outside of the hotel in Detroit as possible.

[teedubya]

either Steve Chilcott (1966, Mets, injury) or Brien Taylor (1991, Yankees, hurt in an off-field fistfight).

Both overall #1 selections, neither played in a single major league game.

Yeah Brien Taylor and Paul Wilson... Hochevar just pisses me off. Time to trade his ass for a bag of chips.

[alnorth]

I just looked it up. Only one player in baseball history has thrown 2 consecutive no-hitters. Johnny Vander Meer of the Cincinatti Reds in 1938.

[alnorth]

Top 6th

Treanor strikes out (swinging)
Escobar walks
Getz grounds out to second, Escobar to second
Cabrera triples to right, Escobar scores
Gordon strikes out (swinging)

1 run, 1 hit

Bottom 6th

Boesch flies out to right
Cabrera doubles to center
Martinez intentionally walked
Kelly grounds out to second, Martinez to second, Cabrera to third
Peralta walks
Avila grounds out to second

0 runs, 1 hit

[petegz28]

can we ge ta hit, please?

[BillSelfsTrophycase]

Yeah Brien Taylor and Paul Wilson... Hochevar just pisses me off. Time to trade his ass for a bag of chips.


He still has a place on this team...as a #4 or #5 starter


Great value at #1 overall :banghead:

[Blankey]

I hate you Getz

[petegz28]

I'm so glad against Verlander we chose to play Getz and sit Betemit

[SPchief]

No hit averted

[Blankey]

Yes!

[petegz28]

Melky!

[BillSelfsTrophycase]

No hitter gone

[stonedstooge]

HA HA Suck on that Verlander

[milkman]

There goes the no hitter and shutout.

yay...

[SPchief]

Now lets go get the win

[milkman]

Gordon needs to heat up.

[petegz28]

Alex looking like Alice again

[BillSelfsTrophycase]

Jesus Alex

[alnorth]

Verlander will probably be pulled after 7. I assume he went long last time, and he's at 80 pitches now.

[alnorth]

Most of the Detroit bullpen looks terrible, but Schlereth and Valverde look decent. Unfortunately, thats probably who we'll get.

[alnorth]

oh, hey the Mariners are actually beating the indians!

[milkman]

Verlander will probably be pulled after 7. I assume he went long last time, and he's at 80 pitches now.

Lefevre said earlier in the telecast that Verlander only threw 108 pitches in his no hitter.

[milkman]

That called ball on the 0-1 pitch there was closer to a strike than the one that Treanor was called out on in his first at bat.

[Blankey]

Again. Fuck you ump.

[petegz28]

Hoch sucks

[alnorth]

looks like this is gonna be another one of those "sink or swim" kinda things.

[milkman]

looks like this is gonna be another one of those "sink or swim" kinda things.

Should have been pulled.

The Royals are still in this game.

[SPchief]

Getz actually shows some range

[teedubya]

Butler, Franceuor, Hosmer...

Let's get some hits/runs

[milkman]

Got away with it.

[alnorth]

well, all right. Still alive and there's no way Hoch is coming out for the 7th.

[teedubya]

Getz-Outz actually shows some range

fyp

[Mr. Laz]

Again. **** you ump.Umps should have to watch the a Fox track type thing for every game they call and if they miss a certain % each month they should lose money.

something

[Brianfo]

Hoch sucks

He does suck, but 3 runs thru 6 innings with that lineup is not too bad. So frustrating, he has some great stuff, but that last home run on a 0-2 count was STUPID!!

[milkman]

Umps should have to watch the a Fox track type thing for every game they call and if they miss a certain % each month they should lose money.

something

Hell, they should have a devise that receives a signal directly from that Fox track.

Never miss a call.

[alnorth]

Top 7th

Butler walks
Francoeur strikes out (swinging)
Hosmer pops out to second
Aviles strikes out (looking)

0 runs, 0 hits

Bottom 7th

Louis Coleman relieves Hochevar

Inge strikes out (swinging)
Jackson pops out to shortstop
Sizemore pops out to second

0 runs, 0 hits

[milkman]

You're holding Billy Butler?

Really?

[kysirsoze]

You're holding Billy Butler?

Really?

This LMAO

[stonedstooge]

Keeping Billay close

[alnorth]

This umpire's strike zone looks like a flying saucer.

http://www.brooksbaseball.net/pfxVB/zoneplot.php?pitchSel=all&game=gid_2011_05_13_kcamlb_detmlb_1/&sp_type=1&s_type=7

[milkman]

Come on Hoss.

Show 'em why they called you up.

[SPchief]

Um, Billay isn't going to run

[milkman]

Okay, that pitch was just nasty.

[PunkinDrublic]

Okay, that pitch was just nasty.

I'm just glad we didn't get no hit. Verlander is just dealing tonight. Not going to be too upset if we lose.

[Mr. Laz]

Coleman almost has a bowling type motion to pitching with the crossover lean

LMAO

[Discuss Thrower]

At the Naturals game. Dwyer has given up 2 HR and just took a line drive to the shin.

[alnorth]

Top 8th

Treanor doubles to right
Escobar grounds out to third
Getz grounds out to second, Treanor to third
Cabrera flies out to left

0 runs, 1 hit

Bottom 8th

Boesch flies out to center
Cabrera strikes out (swinging)

Tim Collins relieves Coleman

Martinez grounds out to shortstop

0 runs, 0 hits

[milkman]

I'm just glad we didn't get no hit. Verlander is just dealing tonight. Not going to be too upset if we lose.

Best curveball pitcher I've ever seen was Bert Blyleven, and that pitch was right up there.

[Mr. Laz]

Hell, they should have a devise that receives a signal directly from that Fox track.

Never miss a call.
yep, i imagine balls and strikes could be computerized and be 100%.

[CaliforniaChief]

Top 8th

Treanor
Escobar
Getz

Ugh.

[SPchief]

Time to jump on him

[Mr. Laz]

Traenor only got a double out of that ROFL

[BillSelfsTrophycase]

Damn, Treanor's almost as slow as Billy

[alnorth]

dont get greedy there, skippy. Take your miracle double and be happy with it.

[PunkinDrublic]

Attaboy Matty!

[milkman]

Was someone pulling on Treanor or something?

Took him nearly a week, it seemed to get to second on that double.

[alnorth]

oh God, they are warming up Benoit. If we can knock verlander out, we have a real chance.

[milkman]

damn.

[teedubya]

Getz-Outz, it's about time to be taken out to pasture.

[alnorth]

oh God, they are warming up Benoit. If we can knock verlander out, we have a real chance.

welp, so much for that. Either Verlander comes back out, or they go to Valverde. Either way, we're cooked.

[Mr. Laz]

c'mon ... gonna need a long ball imo

[Al Bundy]

Chris Getz doesn't even show any effort when batting.

[alnorth]

Top 9th

Casper Wells replaces Boesch in RF

Jose Valverde relieves Verlander

Gordon singles to left
Gordon steals second
Butler strikes out (swinging)
Francoeur flies out to right
Gordon to third on a Wild Pitch
Hosmer strikes out (swinging)

0 runs, 1 hit

Tigers win, 3-1

[alnorth]

best pitcher in their pen, 1.69 era, 6 walks, 16 K

[BillSelfsTrophycase]

Alright Billy, don't fuck it up

[teedubya]

Let's get this...

[SPchief]

Come on Frenchy

[BillSelfsTrophycase]

HOSMER

[SPchief]

Down to Hosmer

[petegz28]

Frenchy swings at too many high pitches out of the zone

[petegz28]

Fuck me

[stonedstooge]

Still had a chance, just couldn't get it done. Better luck tomorrow

[Al Bundy]

Another lousy outing for Hoch.

[petegz28]

Cleveland just won in the bottom of the 9th

[Brianfo]

Frenchy swings at too many high pitches out of the zone

Yes. He does. But arguably to this point in the season he is the best hitter on team.

[teedubya]

Let's get this...

Or not.

[Al Bundy]

Does Hoch have any trade value at this point?

[alnorth]

His strikeout and walk numbers look nice, but Hoch is throwing 1.88 HR/9

That is really bad.

edit: actually, I was looking at the K/BB ratio. His K/9 is mediocre at best. So, I guess the only thing he's doing well is not walking anyone.

[Mr. Laz]

Another lousy outing for Hoch.
umm ... 3 runs is lousy?

[Al Bundy]

umm ... 3 runs is lousy?

The lead off homerun was a killer, being down 2 to Verlander early on was the death nail.

[Al Bundy]

I will also say I was against Hoch from the beginning. If he had been drafted in the 4th round or later he would be an ok pick, but being he was the 1st overall pick he has been a bust.

[Mr. Laz]

The lead off homerun was a killer, being down 2 to Verlander early on was the death nail.
which changes nothing

Hoch was ok, it was our hitting that wasn't good enough against verlander


lots of people have had that problem against Verlander this year

[alnorth]

I will also say I was against Hoch from the beginning. If he had been drafted in the 4th round or later he would be an ok pick, but being he was the 1st overall pick he has been a bust.

When he was picked is now irrelevant to me. He either has value to us or he doesn't. Either we can use him or he should be traded/released. I wouldn't be more inclined to keep him if he were a steal as a 17th-round pick. When he was picked is a credit or an albatross to hang around the neck of the GM (or lack of a GM in this case) who picked him.

[Al Bundy]

which changes nothing

Hoch was ok, it was our hitting that wasn't good enough against verlander


lots of people have had that problem against Verlander this year

Verlander dealt tonight. He has been hittable this year though. Being down early because ole Dumbo ears gives up a bomb to lead off a game is hard to come back from especially when Verlander is dealing.

[Brianfo]

which changes nothing

Hoch was ok, it was our hitting that wasn't good enough against verlander


lots of people have had that problem against Verlander this year

This. We gave up 3 runs. Hoch kept us in the game. Not a Hoch fan, but he kept us in the game. Have to score more than 3 runs to win. Doesn't matter who is pitching.

[Three7s]

Verlander dealt tonight. He has been hittable this year though. Being down early because ole Dumbo ears gives up a bomb to lead off a game is hard to come back from especially when Verlander is dealing.
It's hard to take you seriously when you actually admit that you're bias.

[Demonpenz]

I don't really have anything to say, these games happen, I was surprised Treanors Leg didn't bust through his pants like Mosies Alou when he went around 2nd