****Royals vs Angels Game Thread****

[BillSelfsTrophycase]

Let's do it

[Mr. Arrowhead]

Lets not

[DeezNutz]

Good start (for LAA).

[DeezNutz]

"What is it about the K that makes you so successful here, Hunter?" Fever's actual question.

Gee, I have no clue, Ryan. It could be that he gets to face KC pitching.

[Blankey]

Why is Hunter so good at Kauffman Ryan? Because our pitching sucks that's why.

[Blankey]

damn you beat me :)

[BillSelfsTrophycase]

damn you beat me :)


NTTAWWT :p

[Deberg_1990]

Lets see Soria do it

[Arsonist]

Francis is gonna go 4 2/3 5 runs

[milkman]

sigh....

[petegz28]

wow, game over already

[KCUnited]

Turd Birds take flight.

[DeezNutz]

Mods should delete this thread. I've seen enough for now. I'll check back in a couple of hours.

[Priest31kc]

Here we go again. Every Royals game has been the same for like the last month it seems.

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

You suck alnorth. (no offense Carls20yearplan, I'm glad someone started this). I know you (alnorth) have to put a lot of effort into your game threads and I'm sure it gets tiring and I know the team has been sliding of late.... but there's Hosmer and Duffy and Escobar playing some sweet short... and maybe just maybe a future. You (alnorth) not doing game threads is akin to finding out Santa Claus doesn't exist. You doing game threads (alnorth) gives me hope that there are tried and true Royals fans that don't give up. Royals fans who refuse to stop believing in the future. If you're tired of it (alnorth) what hope do we have left.......


:huh:

[BillSelfsTrophycase]

Could our starting pitching get any worse?

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

Could our starting pitching get any worse?

We could be starting Farnsworth?

I got nothin.

[Arsonist]

What has getz done to deserve to play every other day?

[BillSelfsTrophycase]

What has getz done to deserve to play every other day?

A lack of an alternative

[Arsonist]

A lack of an alternative

Avilas is a much better bat and his defense isn't too shitty

[Sure-Oz]

Billy has to be the crappiest cleanup guy...can't wait till hosmer or moose take that spot

[Arsonist]

Moose for sure, I agree with you 100 %. If butler could play a position he would be fine, but he is a shitty dh imo

[milkman]

Moose for sure, I agree with you 100 %. If butler could play a position he would be fine, but he is a shitty dh imo

A useless fatass that can't run or hit for power is useless whether he can play a position or not.

[Sure-Oz]

A useless fatass that can't run or hit for power is useless whether he can play a position or not.

Agreed,

So far he has been useless this year. He's a fat Hal Morris right now

[Arsonist]

A useless fatass that can't run or hit for power is useless whether he can play a position or not.

More protein shakes and less milk shakes!

[Sure-Oz]

KENDALL!!11111111111111

[milkman]

That's a damn good job on the bunt.

[milkman]

Pitcher helping the Royals.

[Sure-Oz]

2-1 anges rbi single by gordon

[Sure-Oz]

Cabrera ties it with a single 2-2

[58-4ever]

Look at those boys in blue slapping the ball around!

[Sure-Oz]

HOSSSSSSSSS 4-2 royals

[milkman]

Angels Hosmerized!

[Arsonist]

Hosmer!!!!

[petegz28]

fucking Fever acting like he is bumemd cause all the runs won't be unearned

[stonedstooge]

Looks like another scoring extravaganza tonight

[Sure-Oz]

Butler with that raw power MUSCLES it over short

[58-4ever]

Belly Butler bitches!

[Arsonist]

Butler really beat the shit out of that ball, that's power!!!

[petegz28]

Money says Francis gives runs back this inning

[stonedstooge]

Good inning for the Royals. Need to have 3 or 4 of those type innings when the pitching is subpar

[stonedstooge]

Nice inning for Francis. Need 4 or 5 more like that

[BillSelfsTrophycase]

At least we don't have to worry about Soria

[stonedstooge]

Maybe the Royals can get up by 10 or 12 and let Soria pitch an inning or two

[stonedstooge]

Let's get about 8 insurance runs

[BillSelfsTrophycase]

Good lord, I've never been as gay as I am now

[stonedstooge]

Good lord, I've never been as gay as I am now

He so far looks to be the Real Deal

[Sure-Oz]

Fuck u hunter

[BillSelfsTrophycase]

Jesus, Hunter continues to own us

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

I told a friend at work today that I've never had a thought about being gay but if I seem a little infatuated with Eric Hosmer please just ignore it.

[DeezNutz]

Pleasant surprise. Looks like Francis settled down, and Hosmer apparently might be decent.

Very cool.

[Sure-Oz]

Bourjous on the base line

[DeezNutz]

Since my return:
1. Betemit almost kills Hosmer.
2. Francis starts being himself again.

Going outside with a beer.

[sedated]

I have every bit the man-crush on the Wizard of Hoz that goqueefs had on LJ 4 years ago.

[stonedstooge]

Hope if Wood comes in he has better stuff than usual or he may get hammered

[petegz28]

this ump does not care for the low strike....at all

[duncan_idaho]

Hey, you know what?



<----- This guy owns.

[BillSelfsTrophycase]

ESCOBAR

[petegz28]

Escobar may not have much at the plate but he is a God in the field

[petegz28]

Is there a better defensive SS in the league than Escobar?

[stonedstooge]

Don't remember when I have seen a shortstop play as well as Escobar and I have been watching ball games since the mid 60's

[BillSelfsTrophycase]

Put an offer for Hosmer on the table

If Boras rejects it, so be it

[petegz28]

Don't remember when I have seen a shortstop play as well as Escobar and I have been watching ball games since the mid 60's

It'll be exciting when Colon comes up at 2nd...should be one of the more talented middle infiields in baseball

[stonedstooge]

Put an offer for Hosmer on the table

If Boras rejects it, so be it

I might just give up on this team if they don't keep Hosmer and Escobar. It will really show the fans if the Royals are interested in having a winning team again

[petegz28]

Put an offer for Hosmer on the table

If Boras rejects it, so be it

Are you talking about Hosmer? No way we keep him. None. If he continues as he is the Yanks or Boston are going to throw sick money at him and Glass won't bat an eye at letting him go.

[Arsonist]

Soria in the 8th crow 9th?!?!

[petegz28]

I might just give up on this team if they don't keep Hosmer and Escobar. It will really show the fans if the Royals are interested in having a winning team again

I'm with you. It will break my heart but if we pull another gig like we did with Beltran, Damon and Dye then I am done with this team until we get a new owner anyway.

[petegz28]

Soria in the 8th crow 9th?!?!

Maybe since we have a 3 run lead. But I doubt you will see Soria. Yost said he wants to get him in games where he can go a couple innings to get some pitches in and try to get his form back.

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

According to Nomar Garciaparra, no there isn't.

(that was in response to whoever asked if there was a better defensive ss than Escobar. I failed in my post quoting.)

[petegz28]

As a matter of fact, if Gordon keeps it up we are going to have to be a $100 mil + team to keep half of the talent we have going. I just don't see Glass ever going over $70

[Saul Good]

Soria needs 2 weeks off.

[Arsonist]

Yeah it's gonna be coleman or wood

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

Are you talking about Hosmer? No way we keep him. None. If he continues as he is the Yanks or Boston are going to throw sick money at him and Glass won't bat an eye at letting him go.

A curse on your house

[DeezNutz]

As a matter of fact, if Gordon keeps it up we are going to have to be a $100 il + team to keep half of the talent we have going. I just don't see Glass ever going over $70

2010.

Though I agree that we need to be in the 80-90 range, looking toward 100 in the next several years.

[Saul Good]

As a matter of fact, if Gordon keeps it up we are going to have to be a $100 mil + team to keep half of the talent we have going. I just don't see Glass ever going over $70

With the youth we have coming up, our payroll isn't going to be that bad.

[petegz28]

2010.

Though I agree that we need to be in the 80-90 range, looking toward 100 in the next several years.

1 year out of how many we went over $70? And that about killed Glass to do it. And it was on end of career guys like Guillen and Meche. Now we have young talent we need to keep. Hosmer is going to be Pujols like when it comes to his pay day if he keeps this up.

[stonedstooge]

Frenchy's due

[petegz28]

I'd like to see us keep Frenchy for a couple years too. I know that fucks Maier but he may yet see CF if we deal Melke and Cain isn't ready.

[stonedstooge]

Belly's glad he doesn't have to run

[Saul Good]

1 year out of how many we went over $70? And that about killed Glass to do it. And it was on end of career guys like Guillen and Meche. Now we have young talent we need to keep. Hosmer is going to be Pujols like when it comes to his pay day if he keeps this up.

Hosmer's nowhere near the Pujols range yet. If he is, that's going to be a good problem to have.

[Arsonist]

Rofl walk butler. Fear the power!!!

[milkman]

Belly's glad he doesn't have to run

As are we all.

[Saul Good]

I'd like to see us keep Frenchy for a couple years too. I know that fucks Maier but he may yet see CF if we deal Melke and Cain isn't ready.

Maier isn't part of our future, at least not as a starter. A good backup? Sure. A long-term answer? No way.

[petegz28]

Right now as it stands, if we have to deal to lighten up the payroll in future years then Butler I think is odd man out. I can't see keeping a slow, doubles hitting DH at the expense of guys who give you more.

[petegz28]

Hosmer's nowhere near the Pujols range yet. If he is, that's going to be a good problem to have.

Not yet, but I said if he keeps it up. If he progresses as we project he is going to be a Pujols. Maybe not quite the HR hitter but definitely a big time hitting, excellent defensive 1st baseman.

[petegz28]

Maier isn't part of our future, at least not as a starter. A good backup? Sure. A long-term answer? No way.

Thus my saying if Cain isn't ready. Once Cain is ready CF is his.

[Saul Good]

Right now as it stands, if we have to deal to lighten up the payroll in future years then Butler I think is odd man out. I can't see keeping a slow, doubles hitting DH at the expense of guys who give you more.

No question. If Butler isn't 20+ pounds lighter by spring training, I'd move him for whatever we can get.

[petegz28]

I think now we are in a position to deal Betemit, Avilles, Maier or Melky. I think they keep Getz until Colon comes up. Moose however is going to force the hand on Betemit of Avilles sooner or later.

[Saul Good]

Thus my saying if Cain isn't ready. Once Cain is ready CF is his.

I was referring to the part about screwing Mitch. I don't care about screwing Mitch. He doesn't factor into it.

[petegz28]

Watching Gordon the last few games at the leadoff spot I am thinking we may have our own Grady Sizemore.

[petegz28]

So a 4 run lead and Wood immediately deals a leadoff walk.

WTF???

[Arsonist]

I bet money betemit is the first to be traded this year

[stonedstooge]

I bet money betemit is the first to be traded this year

I would hope it would be Evilas, but your probably right

[petegz28]

I'd be happy to deal Butler for some pitching at this point. Not today but in the near future.

[DeezNutz]

Maier is the type of player we need on the roster. Good teammate, plays all three outfield spots (and first, according to Hillman), and he's productive in extremely limited PT but always ready to play.

Plus he costs nothing. Oh, and he wouldn't even fetch a soda in a trade.

[Sure-Oz]

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20110531&content_id=19844954&notebook_id=19845942&vkey=notebook_kc&c_id=kc&partnerId=rss_kc&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Looks like Lamb needs TJ

[milkman]

So, why are the Angels stealing bases?

[BWillie]

I'd be happy to deal Butler for some pitching at this point. Not today but in the near future.

Yeah, no. Not happening. Why would you want to trade your best hitter? Yeah, Billy hasn't come thru in the clutch sometimes this year. The guy has a .393 OBP. I don't know what people were expecting, he's not going to hit .330 w/ 30 homers. Sorry. He's a good hitter though.

In other news, Alex Gordon, dominating. Damn straight.

[petegz28]

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20110531&content_id=19844954&notebook_id=19845942&vkey=notebook_kc&c_id=kc&partnerId=rss_kc&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Looks like Lamb needs TJ

That's less than good

[duncan_idaho]

I think the chances of Eric Hosmer finishing his career in Kansas City are not great. But that's the case with ANY player these days.

If they can get him to sign one extension (most likely by offering him a big deal buying out a few years of FA at the price of paying him much more in years 2-4), I will be happy taking my chances with him as a FA the next time he's ready to sign a new deal.

The Royals can and will push the payroll back up to $70-80 million. Or Dayton Moore will walk. That was part of his agreement with the Glasses when he came to KC. If this team starts winning consistently, it will draw 3 million people a year, which would support the payroll increase (and really could take it into the $100 million range, a la the Twins and Cardinals).

The key will be avoiding the Eric Chavez/Joe Mauer albatross contract.

[stonedstooge]

Yeah, no. Not happening. Why would you want to trade your best hitter? Yeah, Billy hasn't come thru in the clutch sometimes this year. The guy has a .393 OBP. I don't know what people were expecting, he's not going to hit .330 w/ 30 homers. Sorry. He's a good hitter though.

In other news, Alex Gordon, dominating. Damn straight.

Do you see him as a key in an actual winning team if the Royals are to become one?

[petegz28]

Yeah, no. Not happening. Why would you want to trade your best hitter? Yeah, Billy hasn't come thru in the clutch sometimes this year. The guy has a .393 OBP. I don't know what people were expecting, he's not going to hit .330 w/ 30 homers. Sorry. He's a good hitter though.

In other news, Alex Gordon, dominating. Damn straight.

Why? Because he is a one-trick pony. If we can work a way to keep him and add talent elsewhere while keeping the talent we have then great. But if we have to deal one of our talented players I deal him.

[petegz28]

I think the chances of Eric Hosmer finishing his career in Kansas City are not great. But that's the case with ANY player these days.

If they can get him to sign one extension (most likely by offering him a big deal buying out a few years of FA at the price of paying him much more in years 2-4), I will be happy taking my chances with him as a FA the next time he's ready to sign a new deal.

The Royals can and will push the payroll back up to $70-80 million. Or Dayton Moore will walk. That was part of his agreement with the Glasses when he came to KC. If this team starts winning consistently, it will draw 3 million people a year, which would support the payroll increase (and really could take it into the $100 million range, a la the Twins and Cardinals).

The key will be avoiding the Eric Chavez/Joe Mauer albatross contract.


the problem is Glass doesn't want to spend the money to get a winning team to fill the seats to make more money in the long run. That would require and investment and up front spending and possibly not making a decent profit for a couple years. Instead he wants to gimick his way to ticket sales while bitching about other teams spending money on players.

I have said and will say it until the day I die, our stadium could be filled with splintered bleacher seats and chalkboard scoreboards and this town will fill the stadium if we have a winning team on the field.

[Sure-Oz]

Yeah, no. Not happening. Why would you want to trade your best hitter? Yeah, Billy hasn't come thru in the clutch sometimes this year. The guy has a .393 OBP. I don't know what people were expecting, he's not going to hit .330 w/ 30 homers. Sorry. He's a good hitter though.

In other news, Alex Gordon, dominating. Damn straight.

He's a big fatass that clogs the bases and has no position. If he can't hit 300+ with 40-50 dbls 20 hrs and 100 rbis he isn't validating his position here.

we dont need a fatass that hits near .300 and has 12 hr and 60 rbis

[duncan_idaho]

Maier is the type of player we need on the roster. Good teammate, plays all three outfield spots (and first, according to Hillman), and he's productive in extremely limited PT but always ready to play.

Plus he costs nothing. Oh, and he wouldn't even fetch a soda in a trade.

I like Maier in this role. As long as he isn't playing every day and getting exposed, he's valuable.

As for Butler... I just can't see them trading him. He's in a funk, but he's done too much at too young an age to give up on. He's just 25. The player he's most similar to - Edgar Martinez - took a while to hit for much power, too.

Still, if Butler gives you 15/45 2Bs, he's valuable as a run producer in a good lineup. That would play up to 25/35 in a better hitter's park, but the K is what it is.

Gordon
Colon
Hosmer
Moustakas
Butler
Myers
Cain
Perez
Escobar

Pretty good looking 2013 lineup, IMO.

[petegz28]

All one has to do is look at how many pennant races a refurbed stadium, a bunch of bobble-heads, $1 hot dogs, fireworks and t-shirts have got us to realize where the money needs to really be spent.

[BWillie]

Butler is one of the best player the Royals have had in the last decade. That is how bad the Royals are. I think you guys forget sometime, that this is the Royals. Who better are we going to get? Jose Guillen? That didn't work out. Juan Gonzalez? That didn't work out. Mike Jacobs? That didn't work out.

[DeezNutz]

I like Maier in this role. As long as he isn't playing every day and getting exposed, he's valuable.

As for Butler... I just can't see them trading him. He's in a funk, but he's done too much at too young an age to give up on. He's just 25. The player he's most similar to - Edgar Martinez - took a while to hit for much power, too.

Still, if Butler gives you 15/45 2Bs, he's valuable as a run producer in a good lineup. That would play up to 25/35 in a better hitter's park, but the K is what it is.

Gordon
Colon
Hosmer
Moustakas
Butler
Myers
Cain
Perez
Escobar

Pretty good looking 2013 lineup, IMO.

My guess is that two out of the following three will bust, never consistently becoming a part of the lineup: Colon, Moose, and Perez.

[Sure-Oz]

Moose has a dbl HR and 3 rbi

[BWillie]

He's a big fatass that clogs the bases and has no position. If he can't hit 300+ with 40-50 dbls 20 hrs and 100 rbis he isn't validating his position here.

we dont need a fatass that hits near .300 and has 12 hr and 60 rbis

What difference does it make if he's fat? He's a DH. He sits in the dugout, chews seeds and picks his ass. He's a baseball player, not an athlete. You don't trade him now. If Moustakas or Robinson comes up and just rakes...then you have a point. But as of right now, terrible terrible decision.

[Arsonist]

frenchy gordon cain outfield
Moose, escobar, hosmer, giavotella in field
Robinson dh

I think we could wreck a little with this

[petegz28]

Getz with 3 infield singles LMAO

[petegz28]

It's a matter of time before Escobar becomes a .250+ hitter. I saw him in ST and he has yard power. He is starting to hit the ball harder and more consistently. I think in the next year or two he is going to be one valuable SS they entire league will be drooling over.

[stonedstooge]

Just seems like a DH is a position for an older player that perhaps has lost his defensive skills, but can still swing a mean bat. DH seems to be a rented position not one that is owned. Don't know of too many young players shooting to be a DH in the bigs

[Sure-Oz]

Damnit

[petegz28]

You have to be kidding me. He tags him on the leg on a headfirst slide and he is out?

[Sure-Oz]

It's a matter of time before Escobar becomes a .250+ hitter. I saw him in ST and he has yard power. He is starting to hit the ball harder and more consistently. I think in the next year or two he is going to be one valuable SS they entire league will be drooling over.

It'd be nice if he can hit alot better, he could be a 30 sb guy

[alnorth]

It's a matter of time before Escobar becomes a .250+ hitter. I saw him in ST and he has yard power. He is starting to hit the ball harder and more consistently. I think in the next year or two he is going to be one valuable SS they entire league will be drooling over.

He doesn't even need to hit much better to be a great shortstop. His defense is unbelievable.

[duncan_idaho]

the problem is Glass doesn't want to spend the money to get a winning team to fill the seats to make more money in the long run. That would require and investment and up front spending and possibly not making a decent profit for a couple years. Instead he wants to gimick his way to ticket sales while bitching about other teams spending money on players.

I have said and will say it until the day I die, our stadium could be filled with splintered bleacher seats and chalkboard scoreboards and this town will fill the stadium if we have a winning team on the field.

I understand where you're coming from, but a few things in response...

If Glass doesn't want to spend the money to get a winning team, why have the Royals spent comparable money in the MLB draft the past fours to any team in baseball, including the Yankees? They've committed between $30 and 40 million on the MLB draft in the last four years alone. That's an investment.

The investment that has been made in scouting, development and especially signing players in Latin America is night and day as well. Dayton Moore came in and completely fixed the developmental system, which was completely broken due to years of neglect and cheapness. Guys like Cheslor Cuthbert would never have been signed in the old days (PS, for those wondering, Cuthbert is beasting at A ball at age 18. OPSing .900+ through 10 games, with two home runs already and drawing rave reviews for both defense and plate discipline).

If Glass doesn't want to spend the money, why did he spend so much recently?

This is a team that, in a few years, is going to have a TON of young, controlled players. That will offer some payroll flexibility in free agency, the draft and even in midseason trades. It also allows you to identify and lock up the best players at an early age. Dayton Moore has talked about this. It's "The Process."

There's a difference between making a decent profit and losing $50 million .

[noa]

Looked safe to me...just watched it again and didn't see anything to change my mind

[petegz28]

He doesn't even need to hit much better to be a great shortstop. His defense is unbelievable.

Yeah but if he can get his average up he is going to be sick wicked.

[petegz28]

This ump has not called the low strike all night

[petegz28]

And he calls the low strike .....rare call tonight for both teams

[petegz28]

Wood to the bag?? LMAO .... there is a joke in there somewhere

[duncan_idaho]

My guess is that two out of the following three will bust, never consistently becoming a part of the lineup: Colon, Moose, and Perez.

I wouldn't be quite that pessimistic with that group... but I understand where you're coming from. They all have flaws.

Colon is a limited ceiling guy, but I still think, at worst, he's a cheap 2B option who plays plus defense at 2B (after being moved), hits .280 with 10-15 HR and is solid all-around. A glue guy.

Moustakas is the toughest guy to peg for me. He could be Russell Branyon, or he could be Ryan Braun (wouldn't hit for as high an average because he doesn't run as well, but is similar in approach and power level). I'd settle for .270/30.

And Perez's glove is so good, all he needs to do is not embarrass himself as a hitter. .240 will play everyday for him as a big leaguer.

I think Cain is the biggest bust chance out of any of the guys in the Royals system, personally.

[petegz28]

That was a good looking game.

[noa]

Alright, glad to see one end without a hitch

[stonedstooge]

Good game for the Royals. Excellent pitching, timely hitting, let's do it again tomorrow. Hope this gets them going again. This team can win when the pieces fall into place

[siberian khatru]

Screw Crow, let Wood close!

[alnorth]

Jeff Suppan was completely destroyed today in AAA. Shocking, I know.

In the 7th inning, Giavotella is looking good, Moose is looking great, and Cain is struggling.

[siberian khatru]

Jeff Suppan was completely destroyed today in AAA. Shocking, I know.



Whatever keeps him off the big-league club is OK with me.

[tk13]

What's Paul Byrd doing? We need to get Suppan and Byrd in the big league rotation ASAP.

[duncan_idaho]

Not the worst thing in the world to have a crafty vet who has had big-league success, like Suppan, in the same rotation as your young, talented studs, like Montgomery. That's smart minor league management, and it not only improves the young guys but also helps prepare the young guys for life in a big-league clubhouse.

Jeff Suppan=Crash Davis.

[Valiant]

Wow, was reading the recap on espn.. We only struck out once.. For the entire team.. Do not think I have ever noticed it that low before.. Have we ever not struck out in a game??

[Mama Hip Rockets]

Whatever keeps him off the big-league club is OK with me.

I wouldn't mind having Suppan off the AAA club too. Taking up valuable experience from a younger, less sucky pitcher.

[Titty Meat]

I wouldn't mind having Suppan off the AAA club too. Taking up valuable experience from a younger, less sucky pitcher.

Your old avatar with you wearing the Soria shirt was a lot cooler.


I remember Jeff Suppan back in the 90's when I went to an Omaha Royals game and he was pitching for Arizonas farm team.