Gladiator Round 1, Match 18: sofa king vs. pr_capone

[Rain Man]

sofa king

M-16 military rifle with 20 rounds

No backup weapon

Time to plan: 55 seconds


pr_capone

M-1 Garand semiautomatic rifle with bayonet (8 bullets)

Backup bowie knife

Time to plan: 115 seconds



Venue:

Waist deep in the Amazon river

Starting distance: 834 feet

[Groves]

I vote for the "fish with teeth".

[Old Dog]

Not knowing which is actually a better marksman I shall abstain until we hear from the competitors but if going strictly off of the weapon and environmental factors I would give the edge to Sofa King.
PR has the backup weapons, but only 8 rounds and the M-1 is roughly 2 pounds heavier (10 1/2 to 8 1/2 or so). Not a huge issue, but waist deep in the river it may be.

[Rain Man]

Not knowing which is actually a better marksman I shall abstain until we hear from the competitors but if going strictly off of the weapon and environmental factors I would give the edge to Sofa King.
PR has the backup weapons, but only 8 rounds and the M-1 is roughly 2 pounds heavier (10 1/2 to 8 1/2 or so. Not a huge issue, but waist deep in the river it may be.

I wonder which weapon does better in water? If you jam up wading around in there, you're a dead man.

[Old Dog]

I wonder which weapon does better in water? If you jam up wading around in there, you're a dead man.

Neither one would have a big issue assuming both had been properly maintained prior to the fight and further assuming it didn't go on for an extremely prolonged period of time (I see no reason it should if either of them can shoot).

It really would boil down to their abilities. The effective range on both are comparable.

[mlyonsd]

Comes down to who is the best shot. In this case I go with the couch guy only because he has more rounds.

[Rain Man]

Yeah, I'm going to have to go with the more modern weapon with a bigger magazine. I looked them up and they both are well within their range at 834 feet, but since the M-16 has a longer effective range I'm going to assume that it can be fired with greater accuracy by your average planeteer.

[pr_capone]

In the Army, I qualified as sharpshooter.

Just sayin.

[Hammock Parties]

pr capone has military training and an extra weapon. I'm willing to bet sofa king wastes his bullets.

[Old Dog]

In the Army, I qualified as sharpshooter.

Just sayin.

so you got between 24-35 of 40. Keeping in mind that only four of those 40 targets are 300 yards, I assume you missed at least 3 of those 4. The range given here is near that 300 yard mark......

decisions, decisions

[Old Dog]

pr capone has military training and an extra weapon. I'm willing to bet sofa king wastes his bullets.

He's 30ish.....I highly doubt he had training with the M1. If he had the M-16 (which he likely shot, A2 I'm guessing) I would see a clear winner. As it is, I must hear from Sofa King with his 12 extra bullets and the gun that's easier to handle.

[pr_capone]

so you got between 24-35 of 40. Keeping in mind that only four of those 40 targets are 300 yards, I assume you missed at least 3 of those 4. The range given here is near that 300 yard mark......

decisions, decisions

Marksman 23-29
Sharpshooter 30-35
Expert 36-40

I scored 34.

He's 30ish.....I highly doubt he had training with the M1. If he had the M-16 (which he likely shot, A2 I'm guessing) I would see a clear winner. As it is, I must hear from Sofa King with his 12 extra bullets and the gun that's easier to handle.

You are correct, my training primarily consisted of the M-16 and M9. I do have some experience with an M1 though honestly I've only fired about 50 rounds.

Other things to take into consideration. If we are in the Amazon, I am likely better trained at camouflaging myself as well as finding appropriate cover and concealment. With the added time bonus, I could situate myself and simply camp his ass. If we both run out of ammunition, I have the advantage as I can remove the bayonet and dual wield it along with the Bowie.

[Old Dog]

don't know why I was thinking 24.....

My vote goes to pr_capone

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Advantage: Military Marksman Training.


pr_capone FTW.

[threebag]

Sofa King watched Platoon. Advantage Sofa King

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Sofa King watched Platoon. Advantage Sofa King

ROFL

[Ming the Merciless]

Capone uses the extra minute to find a spot, and camp.

Capone wins.

[Sofa King]

42 of 45 last week in clay pigeons, 3rd place out of 25 in archery the last time i attended, and i was the State Darts "B division" champion.


I am a master of all pointy and ranged weapons.In this battle I have superior weaponry and superior ammunition.


Bring it on little man.

[Sofa King]

Capone uses the extra minute to find a spot, and camp.

Capone wins.

His spot will be at the bottom of the amazon river, riddled with bullets.

[KurtCobain]

Yeah, um Sofa plays alot of video games.

Sorry pr.

[Wyatt Earp]

Sofa only needs one bullet.

"Boom, Headshot!"

[Sofa King]

Yeah, um Sofa plays alot of video games.

Sorry pr.

Sofa only needs one bullet.

"Boom, Headshot!"

Sofa King watched Platoon. Advantage Sofa King


Better gun, more than 3x the bullets, fairly close quarters. There's no way i should lose this. I've shot a hell of a lot of deer at that distance, and those are 1 shotters. The water if anything hurts him a hell of a lot more. his 6 shells will be gone in no time.

[Old Dog]

42 of 45 last week in clay pigeons, 3rd place out of 25 in archery the last time i attended.

I KNEW I should have waited to vote....I screwed up. Given this info, I would have voted Sofa King

[MIAdragon]

The 16 had 100+ yrd range advantage. Ill go with sofa.

[Old Dog]

The 16 had 100+ yrd range advantage. Ill go with sofa.

Either is accurate at 300 yards, that really isn't an issue here.

[Sofa King]

I KNEW I should have waited to vote....I screwed up. Given this info, I would have voted Sofa King

It wasn't the darts that swayed your vote? or would have swayed your vote you say?

[ClevelandBronco]

Better gun, more than 3x the bullets...

I need no more information. You lose on math.

[wazu]

Man I wish I would have seen this competition. I want in! Gotta give this round to Sofa King.

[pr_capone]

his 6 shells will be gone in no time.

It is actually 8 rounds... but I only need 1, bitch.

42 of 45 last week in clay pigeons

With an M-16?


If not, then you have no idea how to handle that weapon properly. Yeah, you have the basic know hows on how to handle a weapon but a shotgun is completely different from an M-16.

"Look at me! I can hit a bright orange target with a weapon that spreads its load over a large area!"

Have you ever hit a target from 300 yards out with a rifle? I have.

3rd place out of 25 in archery the last time i attended, and i was the State Darts "B division" champion.

http://maxflies.net/files/2011/03/lighter-chocolate-chip-cookies.jpg

Here is a cookie for your accomplishments.

So now you have gone from touting your prowess on a completely different style of gun, but now you are bringing in a weapon that is not even mentioned in the scenario.

In this battle I have superior weaponry and superior ammunition.

While I concede that you have the superior weapon, you merely have more ammunition.

Bring it on little man.

How big a boy are you?

[The Franchise]

Did you get marksman with an M1?

[Ming the Merciless]

m16 will jam

[Hammock Parties]

Since you're both in the water, who's taller?

The taller person is a bigger target.

[pr_capone]

Did you get marksman with an M1?

M-16

[Fritz88]

Damn, tough one.

Capone looks for more tree leaves for camouflage. As he bends over to pick up some, he is stung by a deadly Amazonian snake right in his left buttcheek. He dies instantly. Sofa finds him 3 days later and claims he killed him. Sofa is killed in the next battle.

[Fire Me Boy!]

Better gun, more than 3x the bullets, fairly close quarters. There's no way i should lose this. I've shot a hell of a lot of deer at that distance, and those are 1 shotters. The water if anything hurts him a hell of a lot more. his 6 shells will be gone in no time.

Where did you learn math?

[Steron]

sofa king has more rounds. Going with him.

[Sofa King]

It is actually 8 rounds... but I only need 1, bitch.

:LOL:


With an M-16?

Nope. Have you ever shot a M1? Doubt it. I bet when you shot your targets you were nice and steady, using a rest. Don't forget you're in a moving river this time.... those extra bullets would be a really nice addition to your arsenal...


If not, then you have no idea how to handle that weapon properly. Yeah, you have the basic know hows on how to handle a weapon but a shotgun is completely different from an M-16.

no shit Sherlock.

"Look at me! I can hit a bright orange target with a weapon that spreads its load over a large area!"

Yes. An orange moving target a far distance for that weapon. Not as easy as you make it out to be, otherwise everyone would be hitting over 40. Lotta hand eye coordination involved, which would come in handy in a river gunfight.

Have you ever hit a target from 300 yards out with a rifle? I have.

Plenty of deer have died at that distance. 30-06, 25-06 and 7mm are my 3 favorite weapons. The 30-06 was my grandpas, and it was open sights for a lot of years. The last doe i shot last year came with my buddies M4.

http://www.squidoo.com/m4


http://maxflies.net/files/2011/03/lighter-chocolate-chip-cookies.jpg

Here is a cookie for your accomplishments.

So now you have gone from touting your prowess on a completely different style of gun, but now you are bringing in a weapon that is not even mentioned in the scenario.

A darts not a weapon silly. It's a dart.


While I concede that you have the superior weapon, you merely have more ammunition.

Superior weapon and superior ammunition?



How big a boy are you?

I'm tall and slender. Tall enough to get out of the water, slender enough that'd i'd have you floating down the river long before you could touch me.

[MOhillbilly]

sorry pone but you got stuck with and inferior fire arm.

[Rain Man]

Modern military warfare gets the win, and the caimans get pr_capone. Half-mast for the veteran, folks. Show some respect.

[Sofa King]

http://1000awesomethings.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/21_gun_salute1.gif


He was a worthy adversary and a good man.

[pr_capone]

Hrm. Now that I'm dead... I'm so gonna haunt you.

That and I'm gonna peek whilst Mrs. King takes showers.

[Sofa King]

Hrm. Now that I'm dead... I'm so gonna haunt you.

That and I'm gonna peek whilst Mrs. King takes showers.

I hope we can still be friends.

http://profesorbaker.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/best-friends-forever.jpg

[pr_capone]

I hope we can still be friends.

http://profesorbaker.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/best-friends-forever.jpg

Nothing but love for you baby.