Dayton Moore on the Halfway Mark

[gblowfish]

This AM on 810, they had a chat with DM about the first half of the season.
Talking Points:

1) Congrats to Aaron Crow making AS Game.

2) Kyle Davies has "good stuff" and will remain in the starting rotation.

3) Be patient. We're going to win a world series eventually.

You can hear the whole interview here:
http://whb-am.tritondigitalmedia.com/page.php?page_id=98

BTW: #2 almost made me wreck my car.

[Bambi]

The Kyle Davies shit was just unreal.

What he say? Jim Leyland says Davies can win 15 games a year?

Take him then fools

[Demonpenz]

Jim Leyland means that he has the stuff to win 15 games, if the royals score 20 runs a game.

[gblowfish]

Jim Leyland means that he has the stuff to win 15 games, if the royals score 20 runs a game.

He should be willing to trade Scherzer or Porcello straight up for Davies! DM make the deal!

[Deberg_1990]

3) Be patient. We're going to win a world series eventually.



translation: No worries, i work for an undemanding boss and fanbase.

[booyaf2]

Jim Leyland means that he has the stuff to win 15 games, if the royals score 20 runs a game.

Maybe he meant he could win 15 games in his career. :shrug:

[KCUnited]

That was the emphysema talking.

[BigMeatballDave]

Davies? Good stuff? LMAO

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

The Kyle Davies shit was just unreal.

What he say? Jim Leyland says Davies can win 15 games a year?

Take him then fools

If our offense could generate 12-15 runs in 15 of his starts it could happen. See!?

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

Jim Leyland means that he has the stuff to win 15 games, if the royals score 20 runs a game.

damn you

[KurtCobain]

damn you

Slippin like a davies changeup.

[gblowfish]

We should start Davies as often as possible to showcase him as trade bait.
Maybe we can trade him to a Japanese team for another Yabuta....

[4th and Long]

Maybe we can trade him to a Japanese team for another Yabuta....
I don't think he's worth more than, oh, I don't know, say maybe, an incurable case of gonorrhea?

[Demonpenz]

I remember when Ryan was talking about how good Yabuta's change up was, then someone hit his changeup off the adams mark

[gblowfish]

Dayton Moore is sounding more and more like Allard Baird with each passing month...

[Reaper16]

Who gives a fuck about wins and losses for a pitcher, anyway? That's a stat that means almost nothing.

[BigCatDaddy]

He always says something stupid like that then a short time llater does the opposite.

[Bambi]

Who gives a **** about wins and losses for a pitcher, anyway? That's a stat that means almost nothing.

I sense a Zach Grenkie fan..

[Bowser]

Who gives a fuck about wins and losses for a pitcher, anyway? That's a stat that means almost nothing.

I see we have a Jeff Francis fan in the house!

[Reaper16]

I sense a Zach Grenkie fan..

I see we have a Jeff Francis fan in the house!
Jokes aside, you cannot tell if a pitcher is good or not by his wins and losses. You just can't. Wins and losses are indicative of next to nothing about a pitcher's individual performance.

[tyton75]

Thats the problem..Davies DOES have good stuff... he just has no freaking idea how to PITCH!

[DeezNutz]

Davies is a perfect microcosm of the major problem with this franchise: there is a complete disregard for results at the ML level.

[SAUTO]

Jokes aside, you cannot tell if a pitcher is good or not by his wins and losses. You just can't. Wins and losses are indicative of next to nothing about a pitcher's individual performance.

this.

when a no hitter gets broken up with 2 outs in the 9th and that team loses by a run it's not on the pitcher/pitchers.


not the only case but a good example...

[SnakeXJones]

Davies has the talent & the stuff but he just doesn't have a brain at all

[OnTheWarpath15]

Davies is a perfect microcosm of the major problem with this franchise: there is a complete disregard for results at the ML level.

Hey, Baseball America said he was one of the Braves best prospects. Give him until 2013.

[Titty Meat]

Hey, Baseball America said he was one of the Braves best prospects. Give him until 2013.

Careful comments like these chaff the Royals stans vaginas.

[Sure-Oz]

What 'Stuff' does Davies have? i've never seen anything from him that has ever looked dominating for even an inning

[DeezNutz]

Hey, Baseball America said he was one of the Braves best prospects. Give him until 2013.

I'd give him even long than that (in the Cards' rotation). :D

[Titty Meat]

They need to keep Davies around for next years home run derby

[OnTheWarpath15]

I'd give him even long than that (in the Cards' rotation). :D

LMAO

[BillSelfsTrophycase]

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2) Kyle Davies has "good stuff" and will remain in the starting rotation.





Jesus :facepalm:


Lots of guys have good stuff that never sniffed the bigs

[Al Bundy]

Kyle Davies is shit. Fuck Dayton Moore for trying to piss on my leg and tell me it's raining.

[milkman]

Jokes aside, you cannot tell if a pitcher is good or not by his wins and losses. You just can't. Wins and losses are indicative of next to nothing about a pitcher's individual performance.

this.

when a no hitter gets broken up with 2 outs in the 9th and that team loses by a run it's not on the pitcher/pitchers.


not the only case but a good example...

I get what you guys are saying, but I think it's a bit off the mark.

You don't win 15 games or 20 games in a season unless you're a pretty good pitcher.

[Reaper16]

I get what you guys are saying, but I think it's a bit off the mark.

You don't win 15 games or 20 games in a season unless you're a pretty good pitcher.
You can be tremendously average and win 15 games if you're on a team with an explosive offense. The list of examples is numerous.

[milkman]

You can be tremendously average and win 15 games if you're on a team with an explosive offense. The list of examples is numerous.

Pretty good is average.

If the Royals had 5 "tremedously average" pitchers, they'd more than likely have 12-13 more wins now than they do.

"tremedously average" pitchers keep your team in games.

The point is, you are not going to win 15 games unless you are good enough to keep your team in most of the games that you pitch.

[Deberg_1990]

Pretty good is average.

If the Royals had 5 "tremedously average" pitchers, they'd more than likely have 12-13 more wins now than they do.

"tremedously average" pitchers keep your team in games.

The point is, you are not going to win 15 games unless you are good enough to keep your team in most of the games that you pitch.

Exactly...good pitchers know how to keep their teams in games when the offense is having an off night.

[GloryDayz]

I stil think he needs to travel light, he might be gone at any given moment. Stealing 3rd in THAT situation... Really? Then throw him under the bus with "signs"... Really? Pack light friend...

[petegz28]

I haven't listened to the interview but I am sure I can some it up in a rather simple way...

We've sucked the last 20 years...
We suck this year....
We will suck for the next 20 years...


Questions?

[Reaper16]

Pretty good is average.

If the Royals had 5 "tremedously average" pitchers, they'd more than likely have 12-13 more wins now than they do.

"tremedously average" pitchers keep your team in games.

The point is, you are not going to win 15 games unless you are good enough to keep your team in most of the games that you pitch.
I don't disagree (beyond an irrelevant semantic disagreement about what "pretty good" means). Still, the wins stat can suggest that a pitcher is quite good, when he's actually really average. That decent pitchers can rack up wins on the right team is mostly coincidental. There are many other stats that will actually show which pitchers keep their teams in games.

[Dartgod]

2) Kyle Davies has "good stuff" and will remain in the starting rotation.
Apparently Dayton has some "good stuff" too.

Pass the pipe, dude.

[Bambi]

Jokes aside, you cannot tell if a pitcher is good or not by his wins and losses. You just can't. Wins and losses are indicative of next to nothing about a pitcher's individual performance.

I agree with you.

CC Sabathia doesn't.

[DeezNutz]

You can be tremendously average and win 15 games if you're on a team with an explosive offense. The list of examples is numerous.

What? /Suppan '04-'05

[Bambi]

The ASG in KC next year is gonna be sick. Can't wait

[Mama Hip Rockets]

This AM on 810, they had a chat with DM about the first half of the season.
Talking Points:

1) Congrats to Aaron Crow making AS Game.

2) Kyle Davies has "good stuff" and will remain in the starting rotation.

3) Be patient. We're going to win a world series eventually.

You can hear the whole interview here:
http://whb-am.tritondigitalmedia.com/page.php?page_id=98

BTW: #2 almost made me wreck my car.

I hate him. It's official. He has exceeded his limit of bonehead moves/quotes.

[Mama Hip Rockets]

Zack Greinke 2007: 3.69 ERA, .500 win pct.
Zack Greinke 2011: 5.45 ERA, .700 win pct.

Wins have very little to do with pitching ability.

[FloridaMan88]

Did Petro do the interview? I would have loved to see Petro interview Moore after going ape shit on the Royals last week.

[BigCatDaddy]

Zack Greinke 2007: 3.69 ERA, .500 win pct.
Zack Greinke 2011: 5.45 ERA, .700 win pct.

Wins have very little to do with pitching ability.

Man, if Grienke doesn't get his shit together we win that trade on Escobar alone.

[milkman]

Zack Greinke 2007: 3.69 ERA, .500 win pct.
Zack Greinke 2011: 5.45 ERA, .700 win pct.

Wins have very little to do with pitching ability.

Unless Greinke gets hot and strings some wins together, he isn't going to win 15 games.

I get that wins and losses is not a true measure of a pitcher's worth, but for a pitcher to win 15 games, he has to pitch well enough to keep his team in games, and leave games with teh lead in hand.

That means he's giving you at least 5 innings, and more often than not, he's keeping the other team from plating a lot of runs.

Even if your your team is a high powered offense, you are simply not going to win a lot of games if you are giving up 6 or 7 runs in 5 innings.

While Greinke has a winning record (7-3), if he continues to pitch as he has, he is not going to win 15 games, because he's being pulled from games for ineffectiveness.