Restaurant bans kids under 6 years old

[Mr. Plow]

I find it hard to believe that this isn't a repost, but I searched....and scanned the first 2 pages and didn't see it, yet I'm sure as soon as I hit "Submit New Thread", it's going to be directly below this one.


http://shine.yahoo.com/channel/parenting/restaurant-bans-kids-under-6-discrimination-or-smart-move-2509487


Restaurant bans kids under 6. Discrimination or smart move?

At McDain's Restaurant, in Monroeville, Pennsylvania, kids don't eat free. And starting next week, they don't get to eat at all. Mike Vuick, owner of the Pittsburgh area eatery has just announced a ban on children (http://shine.yahoo.com/event/travel/you-want-to-ban-my-child-from-airline-travel-1237496) under 6 at his casual dining establishment.

After receiving noise complaints from customers about crying kids at neighboring tables, Vuick decided to institute the policy, which will go into effect July 16.

In an email to customers, Vuick explained: "We feel that McDain's is not a place for young children. Their volume can't be controlled and many, many times, they have disturbed other customers."

The owner of the "upscale, casual and quiet (http://www.mcdains.com/first_1.html)" restaurant explains to WTAE Local News, he's got nothing against kids in general, but their endless screams at public dinner tables are "the height of being impolite and selfish."

Last year, North Carolina's Olde Salty restaurant (http://shine.yahoo.com/channel/parenting/message-to-parents-getting-louder-no-screaming-babies-allowed-2388887) made a similar decision. Owner Brenda Armes posted a sign that read "Screaming children will not be tolerated", making it clear to parents when their kids scream, they'll be asked to take it outside. Armes said the move has boosted business, and Vuick is confident his ban will benefit McDain's as well.

But not everyone is on board. Some Monroeville locals are offended that they're being singled out for having young kids, and pointing fingers at noisy adults.

"If they're so concerned about noise, what do they plan to do about the loud people at the bar?" asks one local resident (http://www.youtube.com/user/wtaetv?blend=2&ob=5#p/u/0/cajIr7StPXY).

It's not illegal to ban kids from eating establishments, but some parents consider the move discriminatory (http://shine.yahoo.com/channel/parenting/should-establishments-be-allowed-to-ban-all-kids-2389269), and potentially a violation of rights for certain special needs kids (http://www.parentdish.com/2010/09/09/mother-raising-her-own-voice-over-restaurants-ban-on-screaming/). What do you think: are kid-free restaurants a great idea or flat-out wrong?

[seclark]

i see no problem.
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[|Zach|]

Surprised I have never seen this before.

[mikey23545]

If I lived in Monroeville, this would be my new favorite restaurant.

[kcxiv]

Im not really see'ing a problem with this. If you know thats their rules before you enter, then it should be ok. Some kids are just terrrrible.

[The Franchise]

I have three kids and I fully back this.

[Brock]

Excellent!

[DaFace]

If it were McDonald's, I'd have an issue with it. If it's a mid- to high-end restaurant, that's perfectly acceptable.

[Deberg_1990]

I dont agree with the policy, but hes free do do whatever he wants as the owner. As a customer im free to not go there as well.

[mikey23545]

I dont agree with the policy, but hes free do do whatever he wants as the owner. As a customer im free to not go there as well.

I agree. Take your screaming little bastards somewhere else.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Fucking awesome.

Hell, I think they blew it by only banning 6 and under.

[Brock]

Fucking awesome.

Hell, I think they blew it by only banning 6 and under.

Should be 12 and under.

[listopencil]

I have three kids and I fully back this.


I have four and I agree.

[Just Passin' By]

Nothing wrong with this.

[chasedude]

Screaming children have that way of getting under your skin. I think a ban is pushing it too far, but there are those parents who don't have the common sense to be considerate of others.

I like this idea, simply take it outside.


Last year, North Carolina's Olde Salty restaurant (http://shine.yahoo.com/channel/parenting/message-to-parents-getting-louder-no-screaming-babies-allowed-2388887) made a similar decision. Owner Brenda Armes posted a sign that read "Screaming children will not be tolerated", making it clear to parents when their kids scream, they'll be asked to take it outside. Armes said the move has boosted business, and Vuick is confident his ban will benefit McDain's as well.

[OnTheWarpath15]

I have three kids and I fully back this.

Your kids aren't fucking shitheads. You're a good parent.

Not to turn this into a "back in my day" rant, but I never remember this being much of an issue for my generation. (30-45)

We knew better than to act out in public, or we'd catch hell for it.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Should be 12 and under.

Yeah, that's probably a good number.

[Easy 6]

Next step? movie theaters.

[|Zach|]

Next step? movie theaters.

A few theaters are 21+ around here in KC. Its been nice.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Next step? movie theaters.

Fuck yes.

There's a place here that you have to be 21 to get in, and they card harder than some bars I've been to.

We won't go to a movie unless tickets are available there.

[ModSocks]

A few theaters are 21+ around here in KC. Its been nice.

Porn Theaters don't count.

[The Franchise]

Your kids aren't fucking shitheads. You're a good parent.

Not to turn this into a "back in my day" rant, but I never remember this being much of an issue for my generation. (30-45)

We knew better than to act out in public, or we'd catch hell for it.

lol....well thanks.

And I can fully remember getting "the talk" in the car from my Dad....anywhere we went.

It usually consisted of....

"We're going to go into *insert business name here* and if you.....

1. Throw a fit.
2. Bother me with shit that you want.
3. Run around like an idiot.

We will drop everything that we have and leave. I will then take you home and proceed to whip your ass.

Got it?"

[OnTheWarpath15]

lol....well thanks.

And I can fully remember getting "the talk" in the car from my Dad....anywhere we went.

It usually consisted of....

"We're going to go into *insert business name here* and if you.....

1. Throw a fit.
2. Bother me with shit that you want.
3. Run around like an idiot.

We will drop everything that we have and leave. I will then take you home and proceed to whip your ass.

Got it?"

LMAO

Are we brothers?

[Just Passin' By]

Your kids aren't ****ing shitheads. You're a good parent.

Not to turn this into a "back in my day" rant, but I never remember this being much of an issue for my generation. (30-45)

We knew better than to act out in public, or we'd catch hell for it.

Nowadays, publicly giving the kid a well earned five across the eyes will result in someone calling the cops on you.

[|Zach|]

Porn Theaters don't count.

:D

[listopencil]

Your kids aren't ****ing shitheads. You're a good parent.

Not to turn this into a "back in my day" rant, but I never remember this being much of an issue for my generation. (30-45)

We knew better than to act out in public, or we'd catch hell for it.


Our kids were on their best behavior when we took them to eat anywhere. They knew we wouldn't hesitate to leave if they acted up, or cancel the trip entirely if they started up before we got there.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Our kids were on their best behavior when we took them to eat anywhere. They knew we wouldn't hesitate to leave if they acted up, or cancel the trip entirely if they started up before we got there.

Sounds familiar. My sisters and I were raised that way. It took one time - when my sisters were arguing over a doll in the backseat - for Dad to turn the car around on the way to get ice cream. We were fucking golden from that day forward.

[chasedude]

lol....well thanks.

And I can fully remember getting "the talk" in the car from my Dad....anywhere we went.

It usually consisted of....

"We're going to go into *insert business name here* and if you.....

1. Throw a fit.
2. Bother me with shit that you want.
3. Run around like an idiot.

We will drop everything that we have and leave. I will then take you home and proceed to whip your ass.

Got it?"

I think I just had a flashback. My dad was just like that.

[Craash]

i see no problem.
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Spot on, and I have young kids. However, mine usually aren't the problem (I know, they never are - right?)

Whenever my better half and I do get a night out, it is not uncommon to be seated close to children who ARE loud and aren't kept in check (again, to MY standards) by their parents.

We'd frequently visit a place that had a 'no young children' policy - as long as they had a good bar keep.

[ModSocks]

Yeah. I saw this on the news this morning. Pretty much makes me cooler than all of you

[The Franchise]

LMAO

Are we brothers?

I think I just had a flashback. My dad was just like that.

ROFL

Yeah.....I grew up with a Dad who was First Seargent in the Air Force. I used to have fucking room inspections.

But now that I'm a Dad.....I can see why he was the way he was. Plus I know I was a little asshole when I was growing up.

[vailpass]

I have 3 kids and have no problem with a restaurant not allowing children.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Funny this subject came up.

I was in Nordstrom the other day and this piece of white trash and her 5 kids were apparently cutting through the store from the mall to get to the parking lot. One literally takes a run at one of his siblings, tackles him, knocking over a shoe display.

People stop what they are doing and stare, and as the Mother of the Year realizes 30 people are gawking at her and her shithead kids, she says:

"WHAT ARE YOU RICH PEOPLE LOOKING AT, THEY'RE JUST BEING KIDS!"


I wish I was kidding. I also wish I had it on video, it would get a fuckton of hits on YouTube.

[Craash]

Nowadays, publicly giving the kid a well earned five across the eyes will result in someone calling the cops on you.

Shock and awe comes away from prying eyes. This way, a simple glance caries enough weight to ensure compliance when out.

But, I'm old, so I'm sure my methods are outdated.

[vailpass]

Your kids aren't ****ing shitheads. You're a good parent.

Not to turn this into a "back in my day" rant, but I never remember this being much of an issue for my generation. (30-45)

We knew better than to act out in public, or we'd catch hell for it.

How do you get a baby to stop crying?

[The Franchise]

Funny this subject came up.

I was in Nordstrom the other day and this piece of white trash and her 5 kids were apparently cutting through the store from the mall to get to the parking lot. One literally takes a run at one of his siblings, tackles him, knocking over a shoe display.

People stop what they are doing and stare, and as the Mother of the Year realizes 30 people are gawking at here and her shithead kids, she says:

"WHAT ARE YOU RICH PEOPLE LOOKING AT, THEY'RE JUST BEING KIDS!"


I wish I was kidding. I also wish I had it on video, it would get a fuckton of hits on YouTube.

I just need to walk around for the rest of my life with a camcorder in my pocket.

I wish I had videotaped the drama at Papa Johns on Saturday night.

[Brock]

Nordstrom? You elitist bastard.

[The Franchise]

How do you get a baby to stop crying?

Shake it until it stops? :D

[Craash]

How do you get a baby to stop crying?

The real question is if a baby cries in it's own house does anyone at Ruth Chris hear?

[listopencil]

Sounds familiar. My sisters and I were raised that way. It took one time - when my sisters were arguing over a doll in the backseat - for Dad to turn the car around on the way to get ice cream. We were ****ing golden from that day forward.

Yep. Cause and effect. It was my policy that every nonessential benefit of living in our household was subject to removal dependent upon behavior.

[listopencil]

How do you get a baby to stop crying?


There are several ways. Typically a baby is crying because it is hungry/thirsty, tired/sleepy or messy/uncomfortable. Occasionally a baby just needs comforting. It's your job as the parent to know the situation, know your baby, and take appropriate action.

[Craash]

Yep. Cause and effect. It was my policy that living was subject to removal dependent upon behavior.

FYP

[kstater]

How do you get a baby to stop crying?

You put them in their bed.




At home.

[The Franchise]

There are several ways. Typically a baby is crying because it is hungry/thirsty, tired/sleepy or messy/uncomfortable. Occasionally a baby just needs comforting. It's your job as the parent to know the situation, know your baby, and take appropriate action.

This.

It bugs the shit out of me when parents are out with their baby and they have nothing for the kid. They'll just sit there eating their meal while the kid is screaming his head off.

We have twins....and our diaper bag has everything we could possibly need. Worst case scenario.....we ask for our food to go and we take it home.

[Just Passin' By]

There are several ways. Typically a baby is crying because it is hungry/thirsty, tired/sleepy or messy/uncomfortable. Occasionally a baby just needs comforting. It's your job as the parent to know the situation, know your baby, and take appropriate action.

Whiskey nipple. Problem solved.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Nowadays, publicly giving the kid a well earned five across the eyes will result in someone calling the cops on you.

FWIW, we were never hit in public, and we were NEVER hit in the head. Ever.

Then again, neither my sisters nor myself were "hit" more than once or twice.

We weren't stupid. The threat was enough.

And in my case, I played sports year-round. I knew Dad wouldn't hesitate to pull me off the team if I acted out at home or in public.

Kids nowadays go to fucking "time out."

[Okie_Apparition]

It's never too early to get them their SS card

[bevischief]

****ing awesome.

Hell, I think they blew it by only banning 6 and under.

I was thinking 21 and under.

[Pants]

This.

It bugs the shit out of me when parents are out with their baby and they have nothing for the kid. They'll just sit there eating their meal while the kid is screaming his head off.

We have twins....and our diaper bag has everything we could possibly need. Worst case scenario.....we ask for our food to go and we take it home.

That's because you're a good parent and considerate human being. That can't be said about a lot of people.

[vailpass]

Shake it until it stops? :D

:D

[listopencil]

FYP


Heh, I think they got that idea every once in a while.

[Hammock Parties]

Fuck off, parents. The world does not revolve around you or your hellspawn.

[Dave Lane]

It's about frikken time. I wish they would all do this.

[vailpass]

Sometimes babies cry for a bit and there is nothing to be done for it but to get up and carry him out of the room.
I love babies and never look sideways when a kid cries. The people who go ballistic five seconds after a baby fusses crack me up, as though they were never babies.

[OnTheWarpath15]

How do you get a baby to stop crying?

The real question is if a baby cries in it's own house does anyone at Ruth Chris hear?

There are several ways. Typically a baby is crying because it is hungry/thirsty, tired/sleepy or messy/uncomfortable. Occasionally a baby just needs comforting. It's your job as the parent to know the situation, know your baby, and take appropriate action.

You put them in their bed.

At home.


I see a common theme here.

I don't have kids, but if I did, I wouldn't dream of taking them to a restaurant as an infant. I'll eat at home or get a fucking sitter.

But that's just me.

Like Pest said, at least have a diaper bag packed and be prepared to leave should things get rough.

[Dave Lane]

Next step? movie theaters.

Yes please

[OnTheWarpath15]

Sometimes babies cry for a bit and there is nothing to be done for it but to get up and carry him out of the room.
I love babies and never look sideways when a kid cries. The people who go ballistic five seconds after a baby fusses crack me up, as though they were never babies.

If more people did this, we're probably not having this discussion.

[vailpass]

Bunch of crotchety old bastards here :)

When my wife and I want adult time we go to adult restaurants where kids don't go. If you go to a a standard type restaurant you are going to deal with kids.

[listopencil]

Sometimes babies cry for a bit and there is nothing to be done for it but to get up and carry him out of the room.
I love babies and never look sideways when a kid cries. The people who go ballistic five seconds after a baby fusses crack me up, as though they were never babies. Do you have any kids?

[vailpass]

If more people did this, we're probably not having this discussion.

The mother (or father) get time to try and remedy whatever is making the baby cry. Hungry, dirty, burpy, whatever. If they can't solve it in a reasonable amount of time they get up and leave.
The people who shoot eye-daggers at the mother one second after the baby starts crying are absolute pricks IMHO. The parents who don't realize that enough time has gone by and they now need to get up with baby are in the wrong.

[vailpass]

Do you have any kids?

3 boys 6, 8, 12.

[Brock]

Bunch of crotchety old bastards here :)

When my wife and I want adult time we go to adult restaurants where kids don't go. If you go to a a standard type restaurant you are going to deal with kids.

That's fine, I don't think anybody cares if you bring your kids to IHOP with you.

[OnTheWarpath15]

The mother (or father) get time to try and remedy whatever is making the baby cry. Hungry, dirty, burpy, whatever. If they can't solve it in a reasonable amount of time they get up and leave.
The people who shoot eye-daggers at the mother one second after the baby starts crying are absolute pricks IMHO. The parents who don't realize that enough time has gone by and they now need to get up with baby are in the wrong.

We're in complete agreement.

[vailpass]

That's fine, I don't think anybody cares if you bring your kids to IHOP with you.

IHOP and the like (Chilis, whatever else peole go to) are the places kids are seen. Adult restaurants are just that, we aren't talking about those.

[listopencil]

3 boys 6, 8, 12.

Congratz, you can go to McDain's instead of McDonald's.

[Bill Lundberg]

Your kids aren't ****ing shitheads. You're a good parent.

Not to turn this into a "back in my day" rant, but I never remember this being much of an issue for my generation. (30-45)

We knew better than to act out in public, or we'd catch hell for it.

I vividly remember the ONE time I goofed around in a public restaurant. It was Pizza Hut and I was probably 6 or7. I decided to put on a break dancing show for some of my mom's older students who were encouraging me. My dad promptly picked me up by my arm, marched me to the restroom and beat my ass and then we went back out and had a nice dinner. Nowadays someone probably would have turned him into the authorities.

[vailpass]

Congratz, you can go to McDain's instead of McDonald's.

?

[rtmike]

How do you get a baby to stop crying?


We never took that chance when our daughter was young.

[Bugeater]

I hope this trend catches on.

[OnTheWarpath15]

IHOP and the like (Chilis, whatever else peole go to) are the places kids are seen. Adult restaurants are just that, we aren't talking about those.

The owner of the "upscale, casual and quiet" restaurant...


Yeah, we kinda were.

[OnTheWarpath15]

We never took that chance when our daughter was young.

Bingo.

[listopencil]

IHOP and the like (Chilis, whatever else peole go to) are the places kids are seen. Adult restaurants are just that, we aren't talking about those.



Mike Vuick, owner of the Pittsburgh area eatery...Vuick explained: "We feel that McDain's is not a place for young children."

In the OP.

[Mr. Plow]

Sooooo....this wasn't a repost? I am disappoint CP....I am disappoint.

[OnTheWarpath15]

?

McDain's is the restaurant in the article.

You can go there, your kids are all 6 and over.

[vailpass]

Yeah, we kinda were.

"Upscale" and "kids" are mutually exclusive, no?

[Demonpenz]

I want to take my kids and drink beer I will go to applebees

[Spott]

What in the hell are those kids in Pittsburgh crying about anyways? Those little brats have already seen their team in the Super Bowl 3 times.

[vailpass]

Mike Vuick, owner of the Pittsburgh area eatery...Vuick explained: "We feel that McDain's is not a place for young children."

In the OP.

Thank you, didn't catch that.

[KCUnited]

No bench riding, goofy looking, 27 year old 1st year starting NFL QB's allowed at McDane's.

[listopencil]

Thank you, didn't catch that.


NP. It was split into chunks, I deleted the stuff in between.

[BigMeatballDave]

So? Good place to go for a date. ESPECIALLY if you have kids.

[Hydrae]

This is such a good idea I think they should pass a law against children under 6 in any eating establishment. After all, they bother me no matter which restaurant I go into.

Oh, this is a decision for the business owner, unlike smoking.

[Marcellus]

This is such a good idea I think they should pass a law against children under 6 in any eating establishment. After all, they bother me no matter which restaurant I go into.

Oh, this is a decision for the business owner, unlike smoking.

I am fairly sure any business owner can make the decision to go smoke free.

[Hydrae]

I am fairly sure any business owner can make the decision to go smoke free.

But not the opposite.

[Craash]

This is such a good idea I think they should pass a law against children under 6 in any eating establishment. After all, they bother me no matter which restaurant I go into.

Oh, this is a decision for the business owner, unlike smoking.

http://yourmotivational.com/uploads/3504.jpg

[Hydrae]

But not the opposite.

And with that I will let it go and return you to your regularily scheduled thread. I am not looking to throw this thing to DC.

[CoMoChief]

Good......little kids act up and cry a lot and crying kids at a dinner table in a restaurant piss me off.

[listopencil]

But not the opposite.



Must be the lack of data on the Second Hand Crying Leads To Cancer And Other Health Problems report issued by the AMA.

[Bugeater]

Must be the lack of data on the Second Hand Crying Leads To Cancer And Other Health Problems report issued by the AMA.
You must have missed the You Can Go To Some Other Restaurant That Is Smoke Free If You Don't Like It memo issued by me.

[listopencil]

You must have missed the You Can Go To Some Other Restaurant That Is Smoke Free If You Don't Like It memo issued by me.

I didn't get your memo, as I was outside smoking, because it's illegal to smoke inside anywhere in the People's Republic Of California.

[Backwards Masking]

I didn't get your memo, as I was outside smoking, because it's illegal to smoke inside anywhere in the People's Republic Of California.

Pretty much illegal in all of Kansas City now from what I understand. I am a non-smoker, but if I own a legitimate business and pay taxes I should be able to make whatever rules I want. If people don't like em, they can go elsewhere. JMO.

[listopencil]

Pretty much illegal in all of Kansas City now from what I understand. I am a non-smoker, but if I own a legitimate business and pay taxes I should be able to make whatever rules I want. If people don't like em, they can go elsewhere. JMO.


It would be nice to have the choice. I was stationed in San Diego, then met my wife out here. She won't move out of California (ugh) so I am, more or less, stuck here.

[BigMeatballDave]

When I smoked I usually sat non-smoking.

I didn't wanna smell smoke while I was eating.

[Frazod]

I love it. Hope it catches on. Take your screaming spawn to Chuck E Cheese.

[MIAdragon]

The Wynn in Vegas banned strollers, love it would like more places to do the same.

[Chiefs3158]

to each their own!!!his restaurant, his rules!!! nothing against kids, but get a babby sitter or go to the restaurant next door!!!

[Marcellus]

Now if I could just find a bar that banned males below the age of 30, obviously I wouldn't want the young ladies banned.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Our kids were on their best behavior when we took them to eat anywhere. They knew we wouldn't hesitate to leave if they acted up, or cancel the trip entirely if they started up before we got there.That's the way we are now. If they act up, we leave. Period.

I wonder if they could ban midgets (people under a certain height) or black people.

[MIAdragon]

Now if I could just find a bar that banned males below the age of 30, obviously I wouldn't want the young ladies banned.

Ive been to a few in Honolulu that banned any dude under 25.

[BigCatDaddy]

For some reason I picture the owner as gay or possibly French.

[MIAdragon]

That's the way we are now. If they act up, we leave. Period.

I wonder if they could ban midgets (people under a certain height) or black people.

WTF is wrong with midgets???

[MIAdragon]

For some reason I picture the owner as gay or possibly French.

or just gay (that covers both).

[Pitt Gorilla]

WTF is wrong with midgets???I have my reasons.

[Mr. Laz]

their restaurant, their rules

as long as the rule doesn't break federal laws about discrimination or something then it's all good.

[007]

I have 4 kids and have no problem with this at all. Hell we generally only take our kids out on special occasions and usually only one at a time so they get some personal time with mom or dad. We have only braved them as a group a few times and have regretted it every time. I'm always worried about everyone else around us when they get a little loud.

Of course, I would also be for kicking the loud assholes out of bars too. I hate going out with a few friends and feeling like we have to yell at each other to even have a conversation. That also goes for places that blare ridiculously loud music but don't have a dance floor. What the fucking point of the music again?

[listopencil]

I have my reasons.

http://slantmouth.com/articles/theIllusionists/images/midgetAssassin.jpg

[007]

That's the way we are now. If they act up, we leave. Period.

I wonder if they could ban midgets (people under a certain height) or black people.

**** that. If I take the time to go out as a family (extremely rare) we are finishing our meal, albeit quickly. They will catch hell when we exit the place and will suffer consequences to boot.

[MIAdragon]

I have 4 kids and have no problem with this at all. Hell we generally only take our kids out on special occasions and usually only one at a time so they get some personal time with mom or dad. We have only braved them as a group a few times and have regretted it every time. I'm always worried about everyone else around us when they get a little loud.

Of course, I would also be for kicking the loud assholes out of bars too. I hate going out with a few friends and feeling like we have to yell at each other to even have a conversation. That also goes for places that blare ridiculously loud music but don't have a dance floor. What the ****ing point of the music again?

This, all of this. :clap:

[Cntrygal]

I like this. Too many (not all), parents seem to think that it's okay to let their kids scream, throw things, and run around while they are engrossed in their food & conversation.

A few weeks ago, I went out for a late dinner (about 8:30 pm) at a nice place and the table next to us was a young couple (early 20s), a friend of theirs and their infant and toddler. The toddler was quite "cranky" and was throwing her food all over the place (the infant slept most of the time). The three "adults", were too busy chatting to pay attention to the toddler...... you could feel the relief in our entire section when they finally left.

[Bwana]

I like this. Too many (not all), parents seem to think that it's okay to let their kids scream, throw things, and run around while they are engrossed in their food & conversation.

A few weeks ago, I went out for a late dinner (about 8:30 pm) at a nice place and the table next to us was a young couple (early 20s), a friend of theirs and their infant and toddler. The toddler was quite "cranky" and was throwing her food all over the place (the infant slept most of the time). The three "adults", were too busy chatting to pay attention to the toddler...... you could feel the relief in our entire section when they finally left.

Nice to see you back in the house, how goes it?

[bevischief]

That is why you stay home and cook with little ones or do take out. Those of us without kids don't want to have to hear them scream when we go out. Or even better find a baby sitter.

[luv]

So take your kids to Chuck E. Cheese. What's the problem?

[Pitt Gorilla]

Now, if they would just ban obese people. It's not easy to enjoy a nice meal with hordes of fatties clogging up the place.

[ClevelandBronco]

Now all we need is a restaurant that tells nonsmokers to get fucked.

[Bwana]

Now, if they would just ban obese people. It's not easy to enjoy a nice meal with hordes of fatties clogging up the place.

They already did.....well kind of.

http://travel.latimes.com/daily-deal-blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/southwestairlines_ap.jpg

[luv]

Now, if they would just ban obese people. It's not easy to enjoy a nice meal with hordes of fatties clogging up the place.

Just like the smoking ban around here, I thought it should have been up to the business owners. A business owner wants to create a certain atmosphere, and it's their right to do what's necessary (within the law) to create it. If people don't like the "rules", then they don't have to go there. If things begin to drastically affect the bottom line, then the business owner can change if he likes. If obese people are not allowed to eat at a certain place, then I guess I'll just have to go somewhere else.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

I agree. Take your screaming little bastards somewhere else.

LMAO

This restaurant has WIN!

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

It seems like most parents have even less control over the little fuckers these days, let them run buck-wild, scream their heads off etc.

Not like when I was a kid.

[luv]

It seems like most parents have even less control over the little fuckers these days, let them run buck-wild, scream their heads off etc.

Not like when I was a kid.

That would be because when you discipline your child in public, you get arrested for child abuse. My mom had no qualms with giving me a swat on the butt in public. Even if it didn't hurt, it was enough to embarrass me to where I'd shut up and behave.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

That would be because when you discipline your child in public, you get arrested for child abuse. My mom had no qualms with giving me a swat on the butt in public. Even if it didn't hurt, it was enough to embarrass me to where I'd shut up and behave.

My old man had the perfect recepie:

You act up, you get a thump to the back of the ear. Quick, clean, quiet, and Ninja-style. I dodged many a thumping back in the day.:D

[007]

It seems like most parents have even less control over the little ****ers these days, let them run buck-wild, scream their heads off etc.

Not like when I was a kid.

That would be because when you discipline your child in public, you get arrested for child abuse. My mom had no qualms with giving me a swat on the butt in public. Even if it didn't hurt, it was enough to embarrass me to where I'd shut up and behave.

Exactly. The ridiculous intrusion of other people is way out of hand. Even that thump on your ear will get a call to child services now. God forbid anyone punish a child for bad behavior.

[Bugeater]

I have 4 kids and have no problem with this at all. Hell we generally only take our kids out on special occasions and usually only one at a time so they get some personal time with mom or dad. We have only braved them as a group a few times and have regretted it every time. I'm always worried about everyone else around us when they get a little loud.

Of course, I would also be for kicking the loud assholes out of bars too. I hate going out with a few friends and feeling like we have to yell at each other to even have a conversation. That also goes for places that blare ridiculously loud music but don't have a dance floor. What the fucking point of the music again?

I hate the blaring music even if they do have a dance floor. If I want music so loud I can't hear myself think, I'll go to a concert.

[007]

I hate the blaring music even if they do have a dance floor. If I want music so loud I can't hear myself think, I'll go to a concert.

Thats how I feel. I just don't understand the point of even having music if you have nowhere for people to dance. Bullfrogs Live in Topeka does this crap. Blaringly loud music and its a fucking sportsbar. I want to be able to hear what the person across the table is saying.

I don't mind music in the background as long as it is just that. In the background.

[Bump]

awesome, good for the owner to do something like that. So many times I've eaten out in Lawrence and there are just tons of trashy looking parents with screaming kids and they act like nothing is happening. Sure those are crappy places like chili's and applebee's, but still, it's annoying as hell.

Please for the LOVE OF GOD, ban kids out of the movie theatre's unless they are seeing a kids movie.

[007]

awesome, good for the owner to do something like that. So many times I've eaten out in Lawrence and there are just tons of trashy looking parents with screaming kids and they act like nothing is happening. Sure those are crappy places like chili's and applebee's, but still, it's annoying as hell.

Please for the LOVE OF GOD, ban kids out of the movie theatre's unless they are seeing a kids movie.

I want them to ban talkers in the movies. Oh and cell phones while they are at it.

[Bump]

I want them to ban talkers in the movies. Oh and cell phones while they are at it.

damn straight.

When I saw X-Men 3 in theatres. There was this group of native americans behind us, probably mid 20's and the whole time they were talking and they weren't even trying to be quiet. I was feeling ragy and stood up and screamed SHUT THE FUCK UP. Everybody clapped, but then the guy who worked there told me that I had to leave. I was pissed.

[KCUnited]

My old man used to wait til everyone was around, challenge me to a race and when I'd start to pull ahead of him he'd hit me in the back of the head knocking me down so he'd win.

Acting up in a restaurant was suicide.

[Just Passin' By]

I like what a theater in my last city of residence did. It allowed children for most showings, but banned them for the late shows (either 8pm shows and later or 9pm shows and later). That seemed like a very reasonable policy.

[GloryDayz]

This is cool.. So many restaurants cater to kids, it's nice to think the Mrs. and I could get away for a quiet dinner.. Two thumbs up...

[GloryDayz]

damn straight.

When I saw X-Men 3 in theatres. There was this group of native americans behind us, probably mid 20's and the whole time they were talking and they weren't even trying to be quiet. I was feeling ragy and stood up and screamed SHUT THE **** UP. Everybody clapped, but then the guy who worked there told me that I had to leave. I was pissed.

Refund??

[Bump]

Refund??

lol, no. I didn't put up a fight, I was fuming so I just said fine and left. Good thing I drove.

[GloryDayz]

lol, no. I didn't put up a fight, I was fuming so I just said fine and left. Good thing I drove.

That's cool. I did the same, didn't get booted, but did stop by and ask for a refund. They gave me a choice of refund or Tix to a different show. Took the tix, and the kids were gone soon after I left. Saw them leave, so they weren't fibbing when they said they were going to boot them.

[PunkinDrublic]

I would also like to include bookstores as places that need to ban kids.

[Groves]

Owner took the sissy way out (which is also the way he gets sued the least.)

Why not just kick out the unruly ones. His discretion.

People flock to Ed Debevic's in Chicago to get some hown-grown insults from the staff. Why not bring the shame-hammer on some bad parents (if they are) and make it the schtick of the entire restaurant?

Oh right, the lawsuits.

[Baby Lee]

If it were McDonald's, I'd have an issue with it. If it's a mid- to high-end restaurant, that's perfectly acceptable.

I misread it, and spent the first half of the article thinking it WAS McDonalds.

[Just Passin' By]

Owner took the sissy way out (which is also the way he gets sued the least.)

Why not just kick out the unruly ones. His discretion.

People flock to Ed Debevic's in Chicago to get some hown-grown insults from the staff. Why not bring the shame-hammer on some bad parents (if they are) and make it the schtick of the entire restaurant?

Oh right, the lawsuits.

Yeah, or maybe he just doesn't want a bunch of snot-nosed kids ruining the dining experience for everyone else, and doesn't feel he should need to be watching other people's children in order to keep it from happening. ;)

[vailpass]

Git them kids outa' my fancy eatin' place. If I'm a gonna' spend good money on TGI Fridays I expects me some peace and quiet!!

[loochy]

damn straight.

When I saw X-Men 3 in theatres. There was this group of native americans behind us, probably mid 20's and the whole time they were talking and they weren't even trying to be quiet. I was feeling ragy and stood up and screamed SHUT THE FUCK UP. Everybody clapped, but then the guy who worked there told me that I had to leave. I was pissed.
You should have coughed on a blanket and thrown it on them. That would show them.

[Groves]

Yeah, or maybe he just doesn't want a bunch of snot-nosed kids ruining the dining experience for everyone else, and doesn't feel he should need to be watching other people's children in order to keep it from happening. ;)

You underestimate the personal joy received patrons and owners alike when the offending parties are summarily escorted out. No dessert. No rain-check. Perhaps a 1 year ban.

I'm telling you, it would become "the place to be".

Sure, you might have to seed the restaurant with some ne'er do wells to get the ball rolling.

Just think of it like bouncers at a bar, cept they've leveled their sights on peace-disrupting families.

If times get slow, you can always re-direct the bouncers to the lowly in fashion sense.

People just want to see people takin out the trash.

Why stop there? You could set up a Judge Judy station in the lobby, where the appeals process could entertain the waiting patrons for their duration.

The list goes on:

Mugshots
Wall of Shame/Fame
Creative punishments
T-shirts
Mobile-device patron jury

and eventually

franchising

[frankotank]

I dont agree with the policy, but hes free do do whatever he wants as the owner. As a customer im free to not go there as well.

I agree. Take your screaming little bastards somewhere else.

there should have been no more posts after this! thread winner.

[vailpass]

Reminds me of people who sit in coach then bitch when they don't get the same hot towels and drinks as the people in the front of the plane.

[BigVE]

I totally agree with this, also agree that it should be a bit older but it's a start. BUT, I have seen just as many inconsiderate ADULTS disturb the entire restaurant or theater as I have seen little kids do this. Respect for others is really lacking today. Many adults tend to be quite loud as well, lacking volume control or the decency to use an "inside" voice. Not just because they are hard of hearing, just because they don't give a $hit if they bother you or not. Then again, I pretty much hate everyone so my opinion is a bit jaded. lol

[Cntrygal]

I totally agree with this, also agree that it should be a bit older but it's a start. BUT, I have seen just as many inconsiderate ADULTS disturb the entire restaurant or theater as I have seen little kids do this. Respect for others is really lacking today. Many adults tend to be quite loud as well, lacking volume control or the decency to use an "inside" voice. Not just because they are hard of hearing, just because they don't give a $hit if they bother you or not. Then again, I pretty much hate everyone so my opinion is a bit jaded. lol

There is a young woman (21) at work who is constantly guilty of not using an "indoor voice". You can hear her half way across the store, and she certainly doesn't have a "radio voice"........ or anything interesting to overhear.

[FishingRod]

But not the opposite.

As a second hand smoker I find it really hard to get my fix these days. About the only place I can go is an AA meeting.


I have no problem at all with a private business owner banning children or ugly people.

[warrior]

I'm in :thumb:

[RJ]

If the restaurant serves so few families with small children that they can afford to ban them then it was probably never a problem to begin with. Sounds like an easy way to get free publicity to me.