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Deberg_1990
07-13-2011, 01:18 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/13/business/with-chevrolet-sonic-gm-and-uaw-reinvent-automaking.html?_r=1&partner=rss&emc=rss



The only subcompact car being built on American soil will soon roll out of an assembly plant here in suburban Detroit that is as unusual as the car itself.

The production line has been squeezed into half the space of a traditional plant. Welding robots are concentrated in efficient clusters, instead of being spaced along the line, while many of the workers earn half the typical union wage. Even the first coat of rust-proofing has been reformulated so that it is one-hundredth as thick as — and thereby cheaper than — the coating on other cars.

One of the oldest axioms in the auto industry is that no company can build a subcompact car in the United States and make money because they are priced too low. The Ford Fiesta is built in Mexico. The Honda Fit is made in several places, including China and Brazil. But with Americans — and Detroit — rediscovering small cars because of high gasoline prices, General Motors is intent on shattering that notion with its new Chevrolet Sonic. The car, with a base price of around $14,000, will give G.M. a new entry in the lowest tier of the market when it goes on sale this fall. The Sonic is also expected to be a breakthrough in establishing a new level of cooperation between Detroit and the United Automobile Workers.

The radically revamped factory here operates with fewer and cheaper workers, many of whom are paid $14 an hour rather than the full U.A.W. wage of $28 an hour.

The plant itself is smaller and reconfigured to save money, with company executives modeling some of the changes after G.M.’s most efficient factories in Germany and Korea. The production line’s footprint alone was reduced from a million square feet to 500,000 — the equivalent of losing the space of more than two Wal-Mart Super Stores. The energy bill was cut by powering some operations with methane gas from neighboring landfills.

The Sonic will be G.M.’s littlest, and most fuel-efficient, conventionally powered vehicle. It was conceived in 2008 before the federal government’s bailout of the bankrupt automaker, when negotiators from the company and the union began brainstorming about what it would take to make a profitable subcompact car in the United States rather than in low-wage countries.

“We wanted to prove we could do it,” said Diana D. Tremblay, G.M.’s head of global manufacturing.

The U.A.W. tried to persuade the Ford Motor Company to build the Fiesta subcompact in the United States. But Ford chose a plant in Mexico, where the combined wages and benefits of a production worker total less than $10 an hour. By contrast, a full-wage union member in the United States costs G.M. close to $60 an hour. Even an entry-level wage employee costs about $30 an hour in wages and benefits.

While it is not the only factor in producing a profitable subcompact, lower employment costs were critical to the decision to build the Sonic in Michigan. In a groundbreaking labor agreement, the union allowed G.M. to pay 40 percent of its union workers at Orion Township an “entry-level” wage that sharply reduces overall production costs.

“The entry-level wage structure was an important enabler, because obviously the smaller the car the less the margin,” said Ms. Tremblay.

The U.A.W.’s president, Bob King, said the union considered the significance of a competitive subcompact to G.M.’s overall product lineup. The Sonic is the first subcompact that G.M. has tried to build in its home market since the Chevrolet Chevette almost 40 years ago, aside from a brief joint effort with Toyota to build Geo Prizms. The smallest car in its lineup now is the Chevrolet Aveo, a subcompact developed by G.M.’s South Korean subsidiary. A version of the Sonic to be sold overseas will be built in South Korea.

“We are committed to the success of the company,” Mr. King said recently. “We had to talk about a business model that makes sense.”

For all its promise, the Sonic still has to convince consumers that G.M. has found the right formula for an attractive and affordable subcompact. Previous subcompacts efforts like the Geo Prizm and the Aveo were bland and underpowered, and contributed to G.M.’s lackluster reputation in the overall car market.

“G.M. has a lot to prove with the Sonic,” said Joseph Phillippi of the research firm Auto Trends . “They have to cut costs but still put out a competitive car.”

The car itself is a mosaic of innovation to make the Sonic lighter, less costly and more fuel-efficient, including high-strength steel used in its windshield pillars and the ultrathin film applied to prevent rust. The Sonic sedan resembles a shrunken version of the Chevrolet Cruze, while the hatchback version is distinguished by its short rear overhang and upright stance.

The Sonic weighs 500 pounds less and is eight inches shorter than the next biggest car G.M. makes, and its little 1.4-.liter turbocharged engine will deliver the best gas mileage in the company’s fleet. “It will be north of 40 miles per gallon,” said Jim Federico, head of G.M.’s global small cars and electric vehicles.

Still, to get the car to meet cost-saving goals, a team of G.M. engineers and manufacturing specialists also had to adapt and reconfigure the Orion plant, which opened in 1983 and was used to build big cars like the Buick Riviera. G.M. spent heavily in converting the plant, investing $545 million in new equipment and retraining workers — and it shows, from the gleaming floors to the banks of fluorescent lighting that brighten the plant and save $430,000 a year in energy costs. The plant is also the company’s greenest, producing 80 percent less solid waste and using 20 percent less water, all at a savings.

Various stages along the assembly line, like the body shop and trim area, are more compact, with teams of six workers installing parts fed to them on automated carts by independent suppliers who operate inside the plant. That reduces costly inventory and improves productivity. “Normally the suppliers would be five miles away versus 50 feet,” said John Barry, a G.M. manager.

The plant over all employs 1,800, a reduction of 25 percent. To augment the small profit earned on the Sonic, the workers will also make the larger, more upscale Buick Verano on the same line. Overall capacity at the plant is 160,000 cars a year. Even the two shifts have been fine-tuned to four 10-hour days rather than the usual five-day week to better maintain the machinery and save energy.

Every dollar saved is essential for the Sonic to compete, auto experts said. And if the car is a winner with consumers — production begins in August — the Orion factory could become a model.

“This plant has the potential to redefine American manufacturing,” said Harley Shaiken, a labor professor at the University of California, Berkeley. “A success here indicates untapped capabilities.”

thebrad84
07-13-2011, 01:41 PM
http://newcarspec.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/08-sonic-opt-e1307153516642.jpg
Not a bad looking little car there.

thebrad84
07-13-2011, 01:43 PM
http://pictures.topspeed.com/IMG/crop/201101/2012-chevrolet-sonic-hatc-9_460x0w.jpg
Hatchback version

MIAdragon
07-13-2011, 01:49 PM
For 14K, if its not a POS it may do well.

ModSocks
07-13-2011, 01:49 PM
It looks pretty cool. Now I Must research.

Radar Chief
07-13-2011, 01:50 PM
Interesting.

and its little 1.4-.liter turbocharged engine will deliver the best gas mileage in the company’s fleet. “It will be north of 40 miles per gallon,” said Jim Federico, head of G.M.’s global small cars and electric vehicles.

If they can get any reliability out of it they may have a winner.

MIAdragon
07-13-2011, 01:51 PM
an int pic

http://image.automobilemag.com/f/reviews/driven/1105_2012_chevrolet_sonic_first_drive/31464581+w440/2012-chevrolet-sonic-dash.jpg

ModSocks
07-13-2011, 01:52 PM
Digital Dash Cluster. The interior aesthetics are pretty neat.

sedated
07-13-2011, 01:56 PM
I hope america is not planning on ever again relying on the auto industry for jobs. our only options are outsourcing to other countries or building robots to do the work.

King_Chief_Fan
07-13-2011, 01:56 PM
Looks like a disposable car to me.

eazyb81
07-13-2011, 01:59 PM
About time the UAW made the necessary sacrifices to keep jobs in this country. Similar concessions will need to be made over the next few years if the UAW wants to keep any semblance of a domestic auto industry. The compensation structure needs a dramatic overhaul.

Blindside58
07-13-2011, 02:02 PM
I'll buy something like this when 50% of the other cars on the road are this size and laws keep big rigs in the right lane only...unless left lane exits are approaching of course...

OnTheWarpath15
07-13-2011, 02:04 PM
About time the UAW made the necessary sacrifices to keep jobs in this country. Similar concessions will need to be made over the next few years if the UAW wants to keep any semblance of a domestic auto industry. The compensation structure needs a dramatic overhaul.

Not really a fan of the term "sacrifice" there.

They're still making over $60,000 a year to assemble a specific part of a car. And that's not counting overtime.

And the other 60% of the full-time union members are making over $120,000.

To build a fucking car.

Third Eye
07-13-2011, 02:04 PM
I hope america is not planning on ever again relying on the auto industry for jobs. our only options are outsourcing to other countries or building robots to do the work.

Or massive restructuring of the UAW, similar to what's being done in this story. Plain and simple, if the UAW wants to continue to exist, then they will have to come to terms with the fact that wages have gone far too high.

Edit: meh, my point was already made. The woman interrupted me and I failed to post in time.

Brock
07-13-2011, 02:11 PM
Trying to compete with the Yaris, but I'm not sure the Yaris is a real big seller anyway. Oh well, at least they're trying something.

BigCatDaddy
07-13-2011, 02:13 PM
Not really a fan of the term "sacrifice" there.

They're still making over $60,000 a year to assemble a specific part of a car. And that's not counting overtime.

And the other 60% of the full-time union members are making over $120,000.

To build a ****ing car.

"The radically revamped factory here operates with fewer and cheaper workers, many of whom are paid $14 an hour rather than the full U.A.W. wage of $28 an hour."

In this factory they are making 30k before any OT.

blaise
07-13-2011, 02:13 PM
Whatever. I'd buy it after 4 or 5 years of people saying it was a quality car, maybe. Until then, I'm not real impressed with their track record on cars.

I don't really get the line that the Prizm was bland and underpowered, and that's why sales lagged. Wasn't it almost identical to a Corolla? I always thought they did a bad job marketing that car.

ModSocks
07-13-2011, 02:17 PM
Whatever. I'd buy it after 4 or 5 years of people saying it was a quality car, maybe. Until then, I'm not real impressed with their track record on cars.

I don't really get the line that the Prizm was bland and underpowered, and that's why sales lagged. Wasn't it almost identical to a Corolla? I always thought they did a bad job marketing that car.

Or was it was just about the public's perception? Same goes for Pontiac Vibe vs Toyota Matrix or the Pontiac G6.

I'd be interested to see the sales comparison between the Matrix and the Vibe.

OnTheWarpath15
07-13-2011, 02:24 PM
"The radically revamped factory here operates with fewer and cheaper workers, many of whom are paid $14 an hour rather than the full U.A.W. wage of $28 an hour."

In this factory they are making 30k before any OT.

That contradicts this:

The U.A.W. tried to persuade the Ford Motor Company to build the Fiesta subcompact in the United States. But Ford chose a plant in Mexico, where the combined wages and benefits of a production worker total less than $10 an hour. By contrast, a full-wage union member in the United States costs G.M. close to $60 an hour. Even an entry-level wage employee costs about $30 an hour in wages and benefits.

While it is not the only factor in producing a profitable subcompact, lower employment costs were critical to the decision to build the Sonic in Michigan. In a groundbreaking labor agreement, the union allowed G.M. to pay 40 percent of its union workers at Orion Township an “entry-level” wage that sharply reduces overall production costs.

“The entry-level wage structure was an important enabler, because obviously the smaller the car the less the margin,” said Ms. Tremblay.

So one part of the article says full-time union members make $30/hr, while just a few lines down the reader is told they make close to $60/hr.

And even if the $14/hr is correct, the article implies that only 40% of the plant's workers are making that wage.

WV
07-13-2011, 02:27 PM
GM can suck a big fat cock along with Dodge.....the only "American" car I'd even consider after the debacle that was the auto bail out is a Ford.

Even still I'll stick with Honda and Toyota. The UAW is a plague that will forever hamper the US Auto industry until it's eliminated.

BigCatDaddy
07-13-2011, 02:27 PM
That contradicts this:




And even if the $14 an hour is correct, the article implies that only 40% of the plant's workers are making that wage.

That's part is saying they make $28 per hour in wage AND benefits; not just salary.

40% is a good start in getting salaries in check with the skill level of the workers compared to the 6 figures a year the workers were making before the bailouts.

Bugeater
07-13-2011, 04:14 PM
Hmmm...GM with their latest "Hey, we're trying not to suck!" statement.

Nothing to see here...

JD10367
07-13-2011, 04:26 PM
A 1.4L turbocharged will deliver "north of 40"? I highly doubt it; I bet it comes in at 34/39 or something. And if that 14k is base price you can still do better elsewhere. Kia and Hyundai have improved their product, and the Japs also put out good small cars.

Bugeater
07-13-2011, 04:28 PM
A 1.4L turbocharged will deliver "north of 40"? I highly doubt it; I bet it comes in at 34/39 or something. And if that 14k is base price you can still do better elsewhere. Kia and Hyundai have improved their product, and the Japs also put out good small cars.
Hey now, I'm sure it can get over 40 going downhill with a tailwind while drafting a semitrailer truck.

milkman
07-13-2011, 05:17 PM
So, where did that place the dilithium crystals that power it?

Deberg_1990
07-13-2011, 06:47 PM
And if that 14k is base price you can still do better elsewhere. Kia and Hyundai have improved their product, and the Japs also put out good small cars.

IM not sure if 14K would be the lowest based price for a car sold in the US, but thats got to be pretty close.

Brock
07-13-2011, 06:52 PM
IM not sure if 14K would be the lowest based price for a car sold in the US, but thats got to be pretty close.

that's 3,000 over a Nissan Versa. (stripped but with p/l pw)

Okie_Apparition
07-13-2011, 06:53 PM
I'm in shock the UAW is on board. Welcome back to the land of the try to be living

CoMoChief
07-13-2011, 06:54 PM
After what GM did to the general taxpayer that entire company can go straight to hell.

BigMeatballDave
07-13-2011, 07:01 PM
The UAW is a completely useless entity.

Bwana
07-13-2011, 07:03 PM
Death trap, no thanks.

JD10367
07-13-2011, 09:53 PM
that's 3,000 over a Nissan Versa. (stripped but with p/l pw)

Nissan Versa, Honda Fit (probably close in price, maybe a hair more), Kia whatever their small car is, Hyundai Accent, Smart fortwo, just off the top of my head to name the foreign companies... $14k as a starting point isn't a big deal. The article acts like they're bringing a car to market at Yugo or Tata prices. They're not reinventing the wheel; they're not even making the wheel as well as those Korean or Japanese companies.

And I have nothing against American car companies in general, or GM in particular. I think Ford and Chevy have put out some decent product lately but the stigma of American cars works against them. And I still drive a '99 Saturn that has treated me well, so I know GM did know how to make a decent cheap car at one point. I just wonder if, when it comes to American car-making, the patient is dead but the doctors are still keeping it on life-support. Between the decline in quality and the Union-labor prices, I just don't see how American cars can compete with imports on this current playing field.