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Titty Meat
07-25-2011, 10:26 AM
Post all free agent rumors, signings, etc here.

I'll try to keep up this updated.


UPDATE: Official List Of Free Agents


http://nfllabor.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/07-25-11-free-agency1.pdf









**Free Agent Signings Recap **

http://walterfootball.com/freeagents2011recap.php






** Notable Rumors **


Chiefs: Signed Steve Breaston, Kelly Gregg, Brandon Siler, LeRon McClain

Chargers Sign: Antwan Barnes, Takeo Spikes, Re-sign Jeromy Clary, Re-sign Eric Weddle

Broncos: Trade Jaber Gaffney for Jeremy Jarmon

Raiders:



Other teams in the league:

Jaguars sign: Paul Posluszny, Clint Sessions, Dawan Landry

Cowboys: Re-sign Doug Free

Vikings acquire Mcnabb.

Redskins sign Barry Coefield, Josh Wilson, Donte Stallworth, and Stephen Bowen.

Titans sign Matt Hasselbeck, Shaun Smith, Barrett Ruud

Kolb to Arizona Eagles get DRC and 2nd round pick

Rams sign Mike Sims-Walker, Quintin Mikell,Harvey Dahl, Zac Diles, Justin Bannan

Seahawks sign Allen Branch,Tarvaris Jackson, Sidney Rice & Robert Gallery

Panthers trade for Greg Olsen

Bears sign Marion Barber, Roy Williams, Amobi Okoye

Bills sign Brad Smith

Patriots trade a 2013 5th round pick for Albert Haynesoworth. Traded for Chad Johnson gave up a 2012 5th round pick, and a 2013 6th round.

Texans sign Johnathan Joseph & Danielle Manning

Lions sign Justin Durant, & Eric Wright

Falcons sign Ray Edwards

Cardinals sign Stewart Bradley, Rashard Marshall

Eagles sign Vince Young,Nnamdi Asomugha, Cullen Jenkins, Anthony Hargrove, Ronnie Brown

Saints sign Darren Sproles

Bengals sign Thomas Howard,Nate Clements

Dolphins Traded for Reggie Bush sign Kevin Burnett

49ers sign Jonathan Goodwin

Titty Meat
07-25-2011, 10:28 AM
Eagles | Landing spot for Ray Edwards?
Mon, 25 Jul 2011 07:25:56 -0700

Minnesota Vikings impending free-agent DE Ray Edwards is expected to sign with the Philadelphia Eagles.

0 Comments | Share: | Source: The Atlanta Journal-Constitution - D. Orlando Ledbetter



Read more: http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl#727264#ixzz1T8ReZfad

The Bad Guy
07-25-2011, 10:32 AM
Eagles | Landing spot for Ray Edwards?
Mon, 25 Jul 2011 07:25:56 -0700

Minnesota Vikings impending free-agent DE Ray Edwards is expected to sign with the Philadelphia Eagles.

0 Comments | Share: | Source: The Atlanta Journal-Constitution - D. Orlando Ledbetter



Read more: http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl#727264#ixzz1T8ReZfad

Why even draft Brandon Graham last year then?

Quesadilla Joe
07-25-2011, 10:36 AM
NFL Network's Jason LaCanfora now concedes that a Kyle Orton trade has a strong chance of going down once free agency begins.
LaCanfora was the lone holdout on a potential Orton trade the past few months, possibly hearing from Broncos sources trying to drive up the price tag. "For a long time I didn't think he'd be dealt," said LaCanfora. "But ... I hear more and more teams with an eye on him." The Cardinals, Vikings, Dolphins, and Redskins have been mentioned as the most likely dance partners.

http://www.rotoworld.com/teams/nfl/den/?r=1

Titty Meat
07-25-2011, 10:37 AM
So far I've seen the Redskins in the running for every free agent.

ShowtimeSBMVP
07-25-2011, 10:37 AM
Out here in baltimore there saying look for the chiefs to sign marc bulger because jim zorn loved him.

Bowser
07-25-2011, 10:38 AM
Out here in baltimore there saying look for the chiefs to sign marc bulger because jim zorn loved him.

The end of Brodie?

The Franchise
07-25-2011, 10:43 AM
Out here in baltimore there saying look for the chiefs to sign marc bulger because jim zorn loved him.

I wouldn't be against that.....if we got rid of Tyler Palko.

Okie_Apparition
07-25-2011, 10:45 AM
Without the rush of hearing Brokie's bones crunching under their attack in camp. I hope the Chiefs passrush doesn't face a set back

KurtCobain
07-25-2011, 10:49 AM
I'd be willing to bet mcnabb a cardinal, orton a redskin and vikings to go with rook QB.

Titty Meat
07-25-2011, 10:50 AM
Free agent LB Stephen Nicholas is expected to land with the Giants, according to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.
Nicholas will hit the market as one of the better cover linebackers available. He'd fit nicely on the strong side of the Giants' 4-3, where he'd likely beat out Clint Sintim for the starting gig. Nicholas has also been linked to the Broncos, Lions and Jaguars this offseason.

Sofa King
07-25-2011, 10:51 AM
I wouldn't be against that.....if we got rid of Tyler Palko.

And croyle.

Rams Fan
07-25-2011, 10:51 AM
I'd be willing to bet mcnabb a cardinal, orton a redskin and vikings to go with rook QB.


Is that because they currently have 1 QB on their roster?

Coogs
07-25-2011, 10:54 AM
Here is an undrafted free agent list of players from Great Blue North...

http://www.gbnreport.com/UFAsxposition.html

KurtCobain
07-25-2011, 10:54 AM
Is that because they currently have 1 QB on their roster?

No, I've just heard so much about them going for orton, mcnabb or VY or even luring collins out of retirement. I don't think they do that. I think they throw the kid to the wolves.

KurtCobain
07-25-2011, 10:56 AM
Why even draft Brandon Graham last year then?

Because Reid is another guy who's never wrong but never right.

Rausch
07-25-2011, 10:56 AM
No, I've just heard so much about them going for orton, mcnabb or VY or even luring collins out of retirement. I don't think they do that. I think they throw the kid to the wolves.

And then back him up with either Orton, McNabb,VY, or even Kerry Collins...

Rausch
07-25-2011, 10:57 AM
Because Reid is another guy who's never wrong but never right.

He's Marty-riffic!1!

Rams Fan
07-25-2011, 10:57 AM
No, I've just heard so much about them going for orton, mcnabb or VY or even luring collins out of retirement. I don't think they do that. I think they throw the kid to the wolves.

I wouldn't disagree about them starting Ponder, but I think it all depends on who they sign in FA.

If they sign a guy like McNabb or VY, I think you could see them battling Ponder for the starting job.

Iowanian
07-25-2011, 11:06 AM
In a way, this extra time may actually be an advantage to teams. They've had extra months to scour for information,watch tape and learn about the UDFA college players and should be able to make more informed signings.

KurtCobain
07-25-2011, 11:07 AM
I wouldn't disagree about them starting Ponder, but I think it all depends on who they sign in FA.

If they sign a guy like McNabb or VY, I think you could see them battling Ponder for the starting job.

That's where I'm getting at. I really don't think they'll go there. I think they'll make it Ponder's job to lose. Maybe a Bolger or somebody, but not a potential starter such as mcnabb or hasselbeck.

KurtCobain
07-25-2011, 11:08 AM
In a way, this extra time may actually be an advantage to teams. They've had extra months to scour for information,watch tape and learn about the UDFA college players and should be able to make more informed signings.

That being the case, I'd think Pioli would go after a guy like Pat Williams before Franklin.

sedated
07-25-2011, 11:11 AM
I'd be willing to bet mcnabb a cardinal,

That’d be kind of shocking, considering Kolb was working out with Fitzgerald in the offseason.

ChiefGator
07-25-2011, 11:12 AM
That being the case, I'd think Pioli would go after a guy like Pat Williams before Franklin.

Oh damn.. you had to come over and spoil Billay's thread, didja?

KurtCobain
07-25-2011, 11:14 AM
That’d be kind of shocking, considering Kolb was working out with Fitzgerald in the offseason.

Shit, if I was the Cardinals, with all their QB problems, I'd sign McNabb and Kolb. Kolb had his best games with McNabb on the same roster.

Rams Fan
07-25-2011, 11:16 AM
Shit, if I was the Cardinals, with all their QB problems, I'd sign McNabb and Kolb. Kolb had his best games with McNabb on the same roster.

Skelton seems like he could be something.

Starter? Probably not.

Decent backup? Maybe.

Okie_Apparition
07-25-2011, 11:18 AM
There was a piece over at PFT this week. That any tampering charge would be laughed at & tossed in the trash for the offseason

-King-
07-25-2011, 11:40 AM
The timeline given to Executive Committee and player representatives

Posted by Mike Florio on July 25, 2011, 1:15 PM EDT


Everyone has a timeline, so we decided we should get one, too.

We got ours from a pretty good source. It’s the actual hard copy that was presented this morning to the NFLPA* Executive Committee and board of player representatives for consideration.

Titled “Article 11, Transition Rules for the 2011 League Year,” here’s what the document provides.

Today, the NFL will publish a Free Agency List.

On Tuesday, team facilities will open for voluntary training, conditioning, and classroom instruction.

On Tuesday, trades can begin.

At 10:00 a.m. ET on Tuesday, teams may sign drafted rookies, undrafted rookies, and negotiate with (but not sign) their own unrestricted free agents, restricted free agents, exclusive-rights players, and franchise players.

Also, beginning at 10:00 a.m. ET on Tuesday, teams may negotiate with, but not sign or give offer sheets to, other team’s unrestricted free agents, restricted free agents, and franchise players.

At 4:01 p.m. ET on Thursday, teams may waive or terminate player contracts.

At 6:00 p.m. ET on Friday, teams may renegotiate existing player contracts.

Also at 6:00 p.m. ET on Friday, teams sign their own unrestricted free agents, restricted free agents, exclusive-rights free agents, and franchise players.

Also at 6:00 p.m. ET on Friday, teams may sign unrestricted free agents from other teams, restricted free agents from other teams, and franchise players from other teams.

No payment of any kind can be made to any player until the CBA has been ratified by the players.

The 2011 league year will begin no later than August 4. When the 2011 league year begins, teams must be under the salary cap. (Specifically, their highest 51 cap numbers must fit under the cap.)

Thus, look for some teams to possibly go over the projected cap this week, and then to find a way to get under the cap before the official start of the league year.

Discuss Thrower
07-25-2011, 11:41 AM
I'd be willing to bet mcnabb a cardinal, orton a redskin and vikings to go with rook QB.

Don't forget about Tennessee...

The Bad Guy
07-25-2011, 11:46 AM
When do teams have to hit that salary floor?

talastan
07-25-2011, 11:50 AM
I can't wait to hear absolutely nothing from the Chiefs front office tomorrow!!! ;) Pioli will have the info from Arrowhead locked up tighter than a nun. We'll have to wait till Friday to hear anything as far as Chiefs news IMO.

I just hope we have our eyes on some guys that can help us out, while signing our priority in house players. (Hali, Flowers, Carr, Bowe, etc.)

Okie_Apparition
07-25-2011, 11:52 AM
Vince Young has a chance to get it together. Unless he becomes a Raider..man that would be the worst place for him.

Rausch
07-25-2011, 11:56 AM
Vince Young has a chance to get it together. Unless he becomes a Raider..man that would be the worst place for him.

And oddly enough the most likely...

Okie_Apparition
07-25-2011, 11:58 AM
I think so too. He's a winner, but crazy Al would let him walk all over the coaches

cdirty
07-25-2011, 12:03 PM
So are we gonna get Hali signed?

rocknrolla
07-25-2011, 12:05 PM
So are we gonna get Hali signed?

We F***in better!

ModSocks
07-25-2011, 12:07 PM
I doubt we do anything other sign our own guys, and some of that will be done during the season.

Last I heard, teams don't have to reach the cap floor till towards the end of the season, allowing team to re-negotiate with their own players during the season. I expect Contracts for Bowe, Hali and Flowers at some point this season.

Okie_Apparition
07-25-2011, 12:10 PM
Injuries league wide might make the cap floor moot. Then again there may not be any bodies left to sign but the minimum wage dudes

Rausch
07-25-2011, 12:10 PM
I doubt we do anything other sign our own guys, and some of that will be done during the season.

It'll be done now or we'll lose them...

FloridaMan88
07-25-2011, 12:16 PM
The Chiefs need a veteran WR... a trade for Steve Smith would fit the bill.

nychief
07-25-2011, 12:31 PM
breaston would be a cheap signing considering his knee... might be nice low risk, decent return signing. Has a history with TH.

ModSocks
07-25-2011, 12:36 PM
breaston would be a cheap signing considering his knee... might be nice low risk, decent return signing. Has a history with TH.

I think Breaston will end up resigning with the Cardinals.

keg in kc
07-25-2011, 12:37 PM
Why haven't they signed anybody yet. Fucking Pioli.

Molitoth
07-25-2011, 12:38 PM
So far I've seen the Redskins in the running for every free agent.

Yeah WTF.

BigCatDaddy
07-25-2011, 12:38 PM
Why haven't they signed anybody yet. ****ing Pioli.

Clark is CHEAP!!!!

BossChief
07-25-2011, 12:42 PM
ONLY TWO DAYS TILL CAMP AND WE HAVE NO ROOKIES UNDER CONTRACT!

MUTHERFUCK YOU PIOLI!

rocknrolla
07-25-2011, 12:43 PM
breaston would be a cheap signing considering his knee... might be nice low risk, decent return signing. Has a history with TH.


I completely agree. I don't think McCluster is ready to carry that load yet.

Skyy God
07-25-2011, 12:45 PM
I doubt we do anything other sign our own guys, and some of that will be done during the season.

Last I heard, teams don't have to reach the cap floor till towards the end of the season, allowing team to re-negotiate with their own players during the season. I expect Contracts for Bowe, Hali and Flowers at some point this season.

Clayton was reporting earlier the floor may not kick in until 2012 or 2013.

The Chiefs need a veteran WR... a trade for Steve Smith would fit the bill.

Pioli's not signing him to a contract the Giants won't match AND giving up a 2nd for Smith.

nychief
07-25-2011, 12:45 PM
I completely agree. I don't think McCluster is ready to carry that load yet.

I think the drafting of Baldwin put that to bed... Sexy Dexy is a toy for TH and will never be an every down player, IMO.

But, even with Baldwin in the fold, I want a vet receiver to replace Chambers.

ShowtimeSBMVP
07-25-2011, 12:47 PM
evansilvaEvan Silva

Per Newark Star-Ledger, #Giants WR Steve Smith (microfracture surgery) may "very well" open season on PUP list.

Dartgod
07-25-2011, 12:48 PM
DAMMIT, CARL!! :cuss:
Posted via Mobile Device

bevischief
07-25-2011, 12:49 PM
Repost.

http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=240510&highlight=free+agency

DBOSHO
07-25-2011, 12:51 PM
Is training camp still at MO West or what?

rocknrolla
07-25-2011, 12:55 PM
Is training camp still at MO West or what?

http:////www.arrowheadpride.com/2011/7/25/2292331/missouri-western-chiefs-training-camp

I don't see why not.

ShowtimeSBMVP
07-25-2011, 01:05 PM
RavensInsiderAaron Wilson





If Ravens fullback Le'Ron McClain leaves via free agency, expect the Kansas City Chiefs to have interest in him.

BigCatDaddy
07-25-2011, 01:07 PM
RavensInsiderAaron Wilson





If Ravens fullback Le'Ron McClain leaves via free agency, expect the Kansas City Chiefs to have interest in him.

That would be sweet.

ChiefMojo
07-25-2011, 01:14 PM
Heard Le'Ron McClain of the Ravens may be a target of the Chiefs. Gives KC a quality FB and a power back to compliment Charles.

EDIT: Oops didn't see others just posted that possibility. :D

Bowser
07-25-2011, 01:14 PM
That would be sweet.

And piss off our white Ivy League rookie fullback? PISTOLS AT TWENTY PACES, SIR.






And yes, that would be sweet. McClain, not the pistols.

BossChief
07-25-2011, 01:14 PM
RavensInsiderAaron Wilson





If Ravens fullback Le'Ron McClain leaves via free agency, expect the Kansas City Chiefs to have interest in him.

Hell yeah.

Mark me down as extremely interested.

BigCatDaddy
07-25-2011, 01:15 PM
Does anybody know if McCain can throw?

DBOSHO
07-25-2011, 01:15 PM
No we need the prototypical Tool smashmouth Bruiser FB.

ChiefsCountry
07-25-2011, 01:16 PM
RavensInsiderAaron Wilson

If Ravens fullback Le'Ron McClain leaves via free agency, expect the Kansas City Chiefs to have interest in him.

Sign me up for that. :thumb:

mcaj22
07-25-2011, 01:16 PM
oh man McClain and Charles would be a great combo.


that means we can also cut the 35 Fullbacks we carry on the roster

Bowser
07-25-2011, 01:17 PM
Does anybody know if McCain can throw?

He'll throw a linebacker the hell out of the way of Charles' way.

DeezNutz
07-25-2011, 01:17 PM
RavensInsiderAaron Wilson





If Ravens fullback Le'Ron McClain leaves via free agency, expect the Kansas City Chiefs to have interest in him.

I would the whole thing.

Just Passin' By
07-25-2011, 01:18 PM
And piss off our white Ivy League rookie fullback? PISTOLS AT TWENTY PACES, SIR.






And yes, that would be sweet. McClain, not the pistols.

Either one works ;)

Titty Meat
07-25-2011, 01:18 PM
RavensInsiderAaron Wilson





If Ravens fullback Le'Ron McClain leaves via free agency, expect the Kansas City Chiefs to have interest in him.

:drool:

Gimmie Gimmie

BigCatDaddy
07-25-2011, 01:18 PM
He'll throw a linebacker the hell out of the way of Charles' way.


Not good enough. He needs to throw so we can utilize that FB pass to perfection once again.

-King-
07-25-2011, 01:19 PM
Nick Wright is talking about the Chiefs may trade Carr or Flowers.


WTF is wrong with this guy?

the Talking Can
07-25-2011, 01:19 PM
listening to 610


wright thinks Chiefs will try to trade one of flowers/carr....

ChiefGator
07-25-2011, 01:20 PM
Nick Wright is talking about the Chiefs may trade Carr or Flowers.


WTF is wrong with this guy?

Why the hell would we?

-King-
07-25-2011, 01:21 PM
Why the hell would we?

Talking about that Pioli might not want pay 2 cornerbacks that much.

Molitoth
07-25-2011, 01:21 PM
listening to 610


wright thinks Chiefs will try to trade one of flowers/carr....

This would be a WTF moment. Unless they wanted to bring in Nnamdi.... but he's 30 years old.

rocknrolla
07-25-2011, 01:21 PM
RavensInsiderAaron Wilson





If Ravens fullback Le'Ron McClain leaves via free agency, expect the Kansas City Chiefs to have interest in him.

I'll have some of that kool-aid

Titty Meat
07-25-2011, 01:22 PM
listening to 610


wright thinks Chiefs will try to trade one of flowers/carr....

The guy is an attention whore and never passes up a moment to draw attention to himself.

mcaj22
07-25-2011, 01:23 PM
So then our number 2 CB would be....

Javier Arenas? lol oh boy

rocknrolla
07-25-2011, 01:23 PM
Nick Wright is talking about the Chiefs may trade Carr or Flowers.


WTF is wrong with this guy?

They have to be talking out of their asses. I GUARANTEE YOU ARROWHEAD ONE IS LOCKED UP LIKE FORT KNOX RIGHT NOW.

Skyy God
07-25-2011, 01:23 PM
The Ravens moved McClain to FB after drafting Rice..... doubtful he'd play that position for the Chiefs.

Bowser
07-25-2011, 01:24 PM
Nick Wright is talking about the Chiefs may trade Carr or Flowers.


WTF is wrong with this guy?

HAY GUYS JOHN HENDERSON IS ON THE WAY

ChiefsCountry
07-25-2011, 01:25 PM
McClain can take Thomas Jones carries and help our short yardage game, which sucks ass.

-King-
07-25-2011, 01:25 PM
The Ravens moved McClain to FB after drafting Rice..... doubtful he'd play that position for the Chiefs.

What? He's always been a fullback.

Rams Fan
07-25-2011, 01:25 PM
The Ravens moved McClain to FB after drafting Rice..... doubtful he'd play that position for the Chiefs.

Nope.

McClain played FB at 'Bama.

Titty Meat
07-25-2011, 01:26 PM
What? He's always been a fullback.

Dude scored 10 touchdowns a few years ago. He'd be our power back no more 4th and 1 running outside bullshit.

mcaj22
07-25-2011, 01:26 PM
The Ravens moved McClain to FB after drafting Rice..... doubtful he'd play that position for the Chiefs.



lol what

DeezNutz
07-25-2011, 01:28 PM
No idea why 610 even exists.

mcaj22
07-25-2011, 01:28 PM
McClain is good in that he is probably the best young fullback in the league and can also line up at power back and in goal line and has SHOWN he can get it done.

He literally makes guys like Jackie Battle, Thomas Jones, Mike Cox, Tim Castille, and even any 3rd or 4th TE we carry all CUT able. He can do all their jobs.

He is a decent versatile back

Skyy God
07-25-2011, 01:30 PM
lol what

FB's don't get 232 carries, which is how the Ravens used him in 2008.

mnchiefsguy
07-25-2011, 01:30 PM
listening to 610


wright thinks Chiefs will try to trade one of flowers/carr....

What is his reasoning behind that? We finally get two really good corners, and we just piss it away by trading one of them? Makes no sense.

BossChief
07-25-2011, 01:31 PM
1) either Tolbert from SD or McClain from Balt would be great additions because it would mean the days of two fullbacks are over, great short yRdage guys and a upgrade to blocking/receiving.

The days of the Chiefs having great fullbacks would be back.

...

I am assuming that Nick Wright read my posts about trading Carr and is talking about it to get listeners.

I'd like my cut.

-King-
07-25-2011, 01:31 PM
FB's don't get 232 carries, which is how the Ravens used him in 2008.

So? Tony Richardson had like 150 carries one year. Does that mean he's not a FB?

DeezNutz
07-25-2011, 01:33 PM
I am assuming that Nick Wright read my posts about trading Carr and is talking about it to get listeners.

I'd like my cut.

Don't claim that.

Carr might have a higher ceiling than Flowers, and trading the former would be a terrible, terrible decision.

aturnis
07-25-2011, 01:34 PM
MCCLAIN!

http://www.nfl.com/videos/auto/09000d5d80d7c880/WK-16-Le-Ron-McClain-highlights

the Talking Can
07-25-2011, 01:36 PM
What is his reasoning behind that? We finally get two really good corners, and we just piss it away by trading one of them? Makes no sense.

not real clear, he just doesn't think chiefs will sign both

Chiefs Pantalones
07-25-2011, 01:37 PM
This is what Pioli is paid to do. I can't wait to see him go to work.

the Talking Can
07-25-2011, 01:37 PM
here's a long ass breakdown of FA

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/6800194/the-nfl-great-scrambling-act

TIER 2 — The borderline Pro Bowlers.

Aubrayo Franklin, DT

Why: Because he doesn't rush the passer or accrue stats in his role as the nose tackle in the 3-4, Franklin has flown under the national radar. He lacks the elite athleticism of Haloti Ngata or the massive frame of Albert Haynesworth, but no interior lineman in football is better at reading blocking schemes and manipulating the offensive front. He creates double-teams by occupying two offensive linemen on most plays, freeing up Patrick Willis to make plays behind him. It's safe to say that he's popular with his teammates; as Willis noted during the 2010 offseason, "I pray to God they keep Aubrayo."

Why not: Franklin only really has two seasons of dominant play underneath his belt, and they both came in contract years. (Franklin was franchised by the 49ers after the 2009 season.) The 49ers are trying to get the word out that Franklin's 2010 season wasn't all that great, but if he did slip, it was only because he was downright incredible in 2009.

Where to: Kansas City, which tried to get by with overmatched veteran Ron Edwards at the nose last year and saw their run defense fall apart during the second half of the season as a result. Washington could also be involved here.

aturnis
07-25-2011, 01:38 PM
Teams are moving fast!

RicardoLockette

4 offers already
9 minutes ago via TweetCaster for Android

mcaj22
07-25-2011, 01:38 PM
Please Washington sign and overpay for Franklin so we dont have to

Chiefs Pantalones
07-25-2011, 01:39 PM
here's a long ass breakdown of FA

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/6800194/the-nfl-great-scrambling-act

That's who Bill Williamson thinks we're gonna sign.

Titty Meat
07-25-2011, 01:39 PM
His argument is basically money with all the other guys who's contracts are up. Tamba, Flowers, Bowe.

mnchiefsguy
07-25-2011, 01:41 PM
His argument is basically money with all the other guys who's contracts are up. Tamba, Flowers, Bowe.

The money argument seems to carry less weight given what the cap will be, and the new higher minimums that teams have to spend. Seems like it would be wiser to get them both under contract.

mikey23545
07-25-2011, 01:42 PM
Why haven't they signed anybody yet. ****ing Pioli.

He's on vacation in France.

aturnis
07-25-2011, 01:43 PM
His argument is basically money with all the other guys who's contracts are up. Tamba, Flowers, Bowe.

I don't get it. Flowers and Bowe are still under contract. Also, if Pioli's wheelin' and dealin' history is any indicator(Charles' contract) they might sign for cheaper than they are actually worth.

BossChief
07-25-2011, 01:43 PM
Don't claim that.

Carr might have a higher ceiling than Flowers, and trading the former would be a terrible, terrible decision.

My hypothetical was trading Carr for a first or second and then signing Asamoghua.

That would give us an upgrade at corner and a premium pick for a team that has shown the ability to hit numerous grand slams in the draft.

I really only posted the hypothetical situation for responses and gave the scenario less than a 1% chance of coming to fruition.

If all that happens, I'll suck my own dick.

Carr will be re-signed.

No doubt.

the Talking Can
07-25-2011, 01:44 PM
babbs on 610

aturnis
07-25-2011, 01:44 PM
My hypothetical was trading Carr for a first or second and then signing Asamoghua.

That would give us an upgrade at corner and a premium pick for a team that has shown the ability to hit numerous grand slams in the draft.

I really only posted the hypothetical situation for responses and gave the scenario less than a 1% chance of coming to fruition.

If all that happens, I'll suck my own dick.

Carr will be re-signed.

No doubt.

Never weighed in on that. I would pass on that scenario personally.

Chief Roundup
07-25-2011, 01:45 PM
I completely agree. I don't think McCluster is ready to carry that load yet.

McCluster was moved back to RB.

DeezNutz
07-25-2011, 01:45 PM
Carr is going to be relatively cheap, IMO. Hell, two seasons ago, there were no shortage of posters blaming him for major problems in the secondary and advocating that he should be replaced.

dirk digler
07-25-2011, 01:46 PM
His argument is basically money with all the other guys who's contracts are up. Tamba, Flowers, Bowe.

All teams have to spend 99% of the cap the next 2 years. Money isn't an issue.

ModSocks
07-25-2011, 01:47 PM
Carr is going to be relatively cheap, IMO.

I'll be curious to see what Jonathon Joseph gets. I think his contract should be similar to what Carr gets.

KurtCobain
07-25-2011, 01:47 PM
If all that happens, I'll suck my own dick.

Not as easy as it sounds.

mnchiefsguy
07-25-2011, 01:48 PM
All teams have to spend 99% of the cap the next 2 years. Money isn't an issue.

Exactly. Now is the perfect time to get the guys we want on the team locked in. Tamba, Flowers, Carr, get them signed, sealed and delivered.

Titty Meat
07-25-2011, 01:48 PM
Whats everyone think about Pat Delvin coming in as a unsigned draftee?

BossChief
07-25-2011, 01:53 PM
Carr is going to be relatively cheap, IMO. Hell, two seasons ago, there were no shortage of posters blaming him for major problems in the secondary and advocating that he should be replaced.

IMO 7.5-10 million per year average...each (I think those are bargain numbers)

DJ got a contract worth about 7/yr (15 guaranteed) and corners are worth a lot more.

aturnis
07-25-2011, 01:53 PM
All teams have to spend 99% of the cap the next 2 years. Money isn't an issue.

I believe that 99% is including all money not counted against the cap. Such as benefit packages, the $3million cap exemption each team gets, bonuses, injury settlements, dead money paid on contracts to cut players. All of it.

As far as an actual cap # is concerned, each teams contracts and bonuses that actually count against the cap, only HAVE to equal 89-90% of the overall cap. I'm also VERY unclear as to whether or not the $3million dollar cap exemption is mandatory, don't know whether or not it must be used every year by every team...

Titty Meat
07-25-2011, 01:54 PM
Babb says the Chiefs are pretty set at nose tackle. My goooooodness.

dirk digler
07-25-2011, 01:54 PM
Exactly. Now is the perfect time to get the guys we want on the team locked in. Tamba, Flowers, Carr, get them signed, sealed and delivered.

Bowe is a FA next year as well.

aturnis
07-25-2011, 01:55 PM
Whats everyone think about Pat Delvin coming in as a unsigned draftee?

I'd love to see two rookie development QB's. I will be disappointed if they bring in an old broke vet to backup Cassel. It's not the Patriot way, and is a waste of a roster spot that could be used to develop potential starters at the most important spot on the team.

aturnis
07-25-2011, 01:56 PM
Babb says the Chiefs are pretty set at nose tackle. My goooooodness.

Yeah, just saw he thinks our number one position of need now is ILB. Not sure what he's smoking?

BossChief
07-25-2011, 01:57 PM
Whats everyone think about Pat Delvin coming in as a unsigned draftee?

IMO we need a vet for insurance for if Cassel goes down.

Practice squad?

Yeah

53 man roster?

No way

aturnis
07-25-2011, 02:00 PM
IMO we need a vet for insurance for if Cassel goes down.

Practice squad?

Yeah

53 man roster?

No way

You must actually believe this team will make a run then. I don't think this team is SuperBowl bound and therefore, if Cassel goes down, I'd rather see a potential QBOTF get valuable snaps.

The Patriots are Superbowl contender regularly and consistently backup Brady with nothing but projects. Cassel being one of them.

dirk digler
07-25-2011, 02:01 PM
I believe that 99% is including all money not counted against the cap. Such as benefit packages, the $3million cap exemption each team gets, bonuses, injury settlements, dead money paid on contracts to cut players. All of it.

As far as an actual cap # is concerned, each teams contracts and bonuses that actually count against the cap, only HAVE to equal 89-90% of the overall cap. I'm also VERY unclear as to whether or not the $3million dollar cap exemption is mandatory, don't know whether or not it must be used every year by every team...

I think you are right. The 99% is league-wide average cash spend.

ElGringo
07-25-2011, 02:03 PM
I think you are right. The 99% is league-wide average cash spend.

This brings up a question. If I understand this correctly each team has to spend x% (not 99) but league wide it has to be 99%. Who gets punished if the league does not hit that 99%?

Just Passin' By
07-25-2011, 02:06 PM
You must actually believe this team will make a run then. I don't think this team is SuperBowl bound and therefore, if Cassel goes down, I'd rather see a potential QBOTF get valuable snaps.

The Patriots are Superbowl contender regularly and consistently backup Brady with nothing but projects. Cassel being one of them.

The Patriots have had guys like Huard and Flutie back up Brady. The project thing didn't really start until Cassel beat out Flutie for the job in 2005. Even then, the Patriots went out and got Testaverde to be the QB3 in 2006.

I wouldn't be shocked to see Pioli go with Cassel, Stanzi and a veteran retread, and get rid of the Bobbsey twins.

Titty Meat
07-25-2011, 02:06 PM
IMO we need a vet for insurance for if Cassel goes down.

Practice squad?

Yeah

53 man roster?

No way

No way? What if he's impressive in camp? Don't forget the extra man you get to keep on the roster.

The Bad Guy
07-25-2011, 02:09 PM
Babb says the Chiefs are pretty set at nose tackle. My goooooodness.

When you listen to Kent Babb (which has to be a fake name because who the fuck names their kid that?) you realize he knows next to nothing about football.

rocknrolla
07-25-2011, 02:09 PM
I'd love to see two rookie development QB's. I will be disappointed if they bring in an old broke vet to backup Cassel. It's not the Patriot way, and is a waste of a roster spot that could be used to develop potential starters at the most important spot on the team.

No way they bring in a old vet back up.

Titty Meat
07-25-2011, 02:12 PM
When you listen to Kent Babb (which has to be a fake name because who the **** names their kid that?) you realize he knows next to nothing about football.

Ugh now Wright is talking to some guy about Sidney Rice.

mikey23545
07-25-2011, 02:13 PM
If all that happens, I'll suck my own dick.
\

Not as easy as it sounds.


True...I kept gagging myself when I was doing it.

DeezNutz
07-25-2011, 02:15 PM
Ugh now Wright is talking to some guy about Sidney Rice.

We need a WR.

Titty Meat
07-25-2011, 02:15 PM
We need a WR.

A slot WR yes. Rice isn't a slot WR neither is Bowe or Baldwin.

DeezNutz
07-25-2011, 02:18 PM
A slot WR yes. Rice isn't a slot WR neither is Bowe or Baldwin.

Tough to have huge expectations for a n00b WR, and that's all I'm saying.

talastan
07-25-2011, 02:19 PM
We need a WR.

Breaston!

the Talking Can
07-25-2011, 02:19 PM
wright has a foxsports guy on about the ravens...he said that he has heard (from "guys he trusts") the Chiefs are interested in McClain, that the Ravens can't afford him, and that he's in the best shape of his career...and that he wants to be a RB and not just a FB

talastan
07-25-2011, 02:20 PM
wright has a foxsports guy on about the ravens...he said that he has heard the Chiefs are interested in McClain, that the Ravens can't afford him, and that he's in the best shape of his career...and that he wants to be a RB and not just a FB

I'd love to team up McClain and Charles, talk about a nightmare in the backfield.

Just Passin' By
07-25-2011, 02:21 PM
wright has a foxsports guy on about the ravens...he said that he has heard the Chiefs are interested in McClain, that the Ravens can't afford him, and that he's in the best shape of his career...and that he wants to be a RB and not just a FB

But he'd take carries away from Thomas Jones. :hmmm:

DeezNutz
07-25-2011, 02:22 PM
But he'd take carries away from Thomas Jones. :hmmm:

I'm liking the idea even more.

Just Passin' By
07-25-2011, 02:23 PM
I'm liking the idea even more.

LMAO


I thought you might

Brock
07-25-2011, 02:29 PM
wright has a foxsports guy on about the ravens...he said that he has heard (from "guys he trusts") the Chiefs are interested in McClain, that the Ravens can't afford him, and that he's in the best shape of his career...and that he wants to be a RB and not just a FB


yes plz

Sofa King
07-25-2011, 02:31 PM
wright has a foxsports guy on about the ravens...he said that he has heard (from "guys he trusts") the Chiefs are interested in McClain, that the Ravens can't afford him, and that he's in the best shape of his career...and that he wants to be a RB and not just a FB

Very nice.

The Bad Guy
07-25-2011, 02:31 PM
yes plz

No question. The guy is a horse of a short-yardage back.

Keep Thomas Jones around another year. Keep Dex as a 4th WR.

McClain blocking for Jamaal? Jimp.

OnTheWarpath15
07-25-2011, 02:32 PM
wright has a foxsports guy on about the ravens...he said that he has heard (from "guys he trusts") the Chiefs are interested in McClain, that the Ravens can't afford him, and that he's in the best shape of his career...and that he wants to be a RB and not just a FB

Gimme.

ChiefsCountry
07-25-2011, 02:32 PM
IMO we need a vet for insurance for if Cassel goes down.


I would put Croyle or Palko in a see if we could get Andrew Luck that way. :p

OnTheWarpath15
07-25-2011, 02:33 PM
No question. The guy is a horse of a short-yardage back.

Keep Thomas Jones around another year. Keep Dex as a 4th WR.

McClain blocking for Jamaal? Jimp.

Or...

Just get rid of Two-Yard Thomas.

If you want a true FB, Leach is on the market, and one of the guys in GB probably will be as well.

KurtCobain
07-25-2011, 02:35 PM
It'd be like Holmes and TRich.

DeezNutz
07-25-2011, 02:35 PM
Just get rid of Two-Yard Thomas.


LMAO.

rocknrolla
07-25-2011, 02:36 PM
It'd be like Holmes and TRich.

TRich was the shit!

ModSocks
07-25-2011, 02:38 PM
wright has a foxsports guy on about the ravens...he said that he has heard (from "guys he trusts") the Chiefs are interested in McClain, that the Ravens can't afford him, and that he's in the best shape of his career...and that he wants to be a RB and not just a FB

McClain is on my very short list of F/A Wants.

McClain/Tolbert
Breaston


And MAYBE if the price is right

J. Gaither
Pat Williams IF Pioli believes he still has something left in the tank.

talastan
07-25-2011, 02:39 PM
With McClain and Charles in the backfield who are D-coaches going to try and key in on defending the running game? Add the receiving corps we now have in the mix and you have a very dangerous offense. Just need Cassel to take the next steps in his development and we are frightening the crap out of defenses.

ModSocks
07-25-2011, 02:39 PM
Or...

Just get rid of Two-Yard Thomas.

If you want a true FB, Leach is on the market, and one of the guys in GB probably will be as well.

Or Both.

Leach + McClain + Charles?

OMFGBBQ

Just Passin' By
07-25-2011, 02:41 PM
Breaston as a slot, McClain in the backfield, and either a replacement at RT or a LT brought in to move Albert to RT.

After that, I'd assume Chiefs fans would consider the offense pretty set (other than the obligatory Cassel bashing), right?

CoMoChief
07-25-2011, 02:42 PM
Cassel
Bulger
Stanzi

I'm all for that.

Just Passin' By
07-25-2011, 02:43 PM
Cassel
Bulger
Stanzi

I'm all for that.

Bulger is shell shocked. He's done.

The Bad Guy
07-25-2011, 02:43 PM
Bulger is shell shocked. He's done.

Without question he's done.

the Talking Can
07-25-2011, 02:44 PM
wrights having a 49ers guys on after break to discuss their FAs



wrights a douche, but at least he's all football today...

The Bad Guy
07-25-2011, 02:45 PM
Or...

Just get rid of Two-Yard Thomas.

If you want a true FB, Leach is on the market, and one of the guys in GB probably will be as well.

I'd rather just keep him around. Seems like a great locker room guy.

CoMoChief
07-25-2011, 02:46 PM
Bulger is shell shocked. He's done.

Good thing he'd be a backup and not a starter then right?

talastan
07-25-2011, 02:46 PM
I'd rather just keep him around. Seems like a great locker room guy.

Wasn't the same said about Vrabel?

The Bad Guy
07-25-2011, 02:47 PM
McClain is on my very short list of F/A Wants.

McClain/Tolbert
Breaston


And MAYBE if the price is right

J. Gaither
Pat Williams IF Pioli believes he still has something left in the tank.

I like Breaston, but the love he gets when he's hurt a lot and has knee issues baffles me.

Keep Albert at LT. Find a RT. Not a fan of Gaither, hurt a lot. I'd love Clabo, but reports are he's staying in Atlanta.

Sign Pat Williams on a one-year deal. Let Ron Edwards walk. Bring back Shaun Smith.

McClain is an absolute no-brainer.

The Bad Guy
07-25-2011, 02:49 PM
Good thing he'd be a backup and not a starter then right?

No, it's not a good thing. You want a backup who can play when needed.

Just Passin' By
07-25-2011, 02:49 PM
Good thing he'd be a backup and not a starter then right?

What the fuck good is a veteran backup that you can't count on to go in if needed?

ModSocks
07-25-2011, 02:50 PM
I like Breaston, but the love he gets when he's hurt a lot and has knee issues baffles me.

Keep Albert at LT. Find a RT. Not a fan of Gaither, hurt a lot. I'd love Clabo, but reports are he's staying in Atlanta.

Sign Pat Williams on a one-year deal. Let Ron Edwards walk. Bring back Shaun Smith.

McClain is an absolute no-brainer.

I want Gaither at RT not LT.

And his (breaston) injury history does concern me, but we're asking him to be a slot WR so it's a chance that i believe would pay off.

Not that it mattes because i fully expect him to resign with AZ. Doucet is just as injury prone if not more, and if they let Breaston walk they'll have no one outside of Fitz.

The Franchise
07-25-2011, 02:51 PM
I like Breaston, but the love he gets when he's hurt a lot and has knee issues baffles me.

Keep Albert at LT. Find a RT. Not a fan of Gaither, hurt a lot. I'd love Clabo, but reports are he's staying in Atlanta.

Sign Pat Williams on a one-year deal. Let Ron Edwards walk. Bring back Shaun Smith.

McClain is an absolute no-brainer.

Ryan Harris.

Rams Fan
07-25-2011, 02:51 PM
Bulger hardly played last year.

He was behind an awful Rams offensive line in from 2007-2009.

Do I think he should be starting for anyone? Hell no. Could he be a decent backup? Maybe.

The Bad Guy
07-25-2011, 02:51 PM
Ryan Harris.

He'd work.

OnTheWarpath15
07-25-2011, 02:53 PM
I'd rather just keep him around. Seems like a great locker room guy.

Locker room presence isn't worth a roster spot, IMO.

Everyone wondered why the Jets let him walk. Everyone thought they were stupid.

Well, we saw with our own eyes why they let him go, starting after Week 7.

Dude was worthless after that.

Weeks 1-7: 4.66 YPC

Weeks 8-17: 2.9 YPC

The Bad Guy
07-25-2011, 02:53 PM
I want Gaither at RT not LT.

And his (breaston) injury history does concern me, but we're asking him to be a slot WR so it's a chance that i believe would pay off.

Not that it mattes because i fully expect him to resign with AZ. Doucet is just as injury prone if not more, and if they let Breaston walk they'll have no one outside of Fitz.

Gaither can't stay on the field. He's got back issues. I don't care where he lines up. He's not dependable.

Again, if he has an injury history, I don't care the role we are asking him to play. I like him as a player. Don't like his knee troubles being a young receiver.

ModSocks
07-25-2011, 02:53 PM
Id be cool with signing Bulger. He can be 3rd string. basically an extra QB's coach. That's what he wants to do anyway.

Cassel
Stanzi
Bulger

Maybe it'll help Cassel improve.

Just Passin' By
07-25-2011, 02:53 PM
Bulger hardly played last year.

He was behind an awful Rams offensive line in from 2007-2009.

Do I think he should be starting for anyone? Hell no. Could he be a decent backup? Maybe.

Go watch film of him at the end of his Rams tenure. Take a look at his eyes when the rush is coming.


It's sad, but once a QB gets gun shy, it's tough to overcome.

The Bad Guy
07-25-2011, 02:53 PM
Locker room presence isn't worth a roster spot, IMO.

Everyone wondered why the Jets let him walk. Everyone thought they were stupid.

Well, we saw with our own eyes why they let him go, starting after Week 7.

Dude was worthless after that.

Weeks 1-7: 4.66 YPC

Weeks 8-17: 2.9 YPC

We are obviously not going to see eye to eye on this. I 100% disagree that a guy who can lead a locker room isn't worth a roster spot.

The Bad Guy
07-25-2011, 02:54 PM
The only plus to Bulger is he's worked with Zorn.

ModSocks
07-25-2011, 02:55 PM
Go watch film of him at the end of his Rams tenure. Take a look at his eyes when the rush is coming.


It's sad, but once a QB gets gun shy, it's tough to overcome.

Yeah. The dude is toast for sure. But he and Zorn really helped out Flacco and they could do the same for Cassel.

mnchiefsguy
07-25-2011, 02:55 PM
Go watch film of him at the end of his Rams tenure. Take a look at his eyes when the rush is coming.


It's sad, but once a QB gets gun shy, it's tough to overcome.

Yeah, Bulger had a good stretch, but he has beaten so hard it would take alot for him to overcome. Not impossible. I think Cassel has some gun shyness as well, and it improved as the season went on last year. Hopefully with some line improvements again this season, he can continue to make progress.

OnTheWarpath15
07-25-2011, 02:55 PM
We are obviously not going to see eye to eye on this. I 100% disagree that a guy who can lead a locker room isn't worth a roster spot.

Sorry, but this team needs contributors on the field.

To spend a roster spot on a cheerleader?

No thanks.

Titty Meat
07-25-2011, 02:57 PM
Falcons | Tyson Clabo considered top priority
Mon, 25 Jul 2011 11:20:27 -0700

Free-agent OT Tyson Clabo (Falcons) is believed to be the highest priority among the three starting offensive linemen that the Atlanta Falcons have to deal with once free agency begins.

0 Comments | Share: | Source: The Atlanta Journal-Constitution - D. Orlando Ledbetter



Read more: http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl#ixzz1T9XFIGkG


:(

The Bad Guy
07-25-2011, 02:58 PM
Sorry, but this team needs contributors on the field.

To spend a roster spot on a cheerleader?

No thanks.

See, you want to equate a guy who leads by example, works hard as being a cheerleader and I think that's just a valid comparison.

ModSocks
07-25-2011, 02:58 PM
Falcons | Tyson Clabo considered top priority
Mon, 25 Jul 2011 11:20:27 -0700

Free-agent OT Tyson Clabo (Falcons) is believed to be the highest priority among the three starting offensive linemen that the Atlanta Falcons have to deal with once free agency begins.

0 Comments | Share: | Source: The Atlanta Journal-Constitution - D. Orlando Ledbetter



Read more: http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl#ixzz1T9XFIGkG


:(

Who cares. Dude would've been so stupidly overpaid. I never even thought twice about the guy.

KCrockaholic
07-25-2011, 02:58 PM
Falcons | Tyson Clabo considered top priority
Mon, 25 Jul 2011 11:20:27 -0700

Free-agent OT Tyson Clabo (Falcons) is believed to be the highest priority among the three starting offensive linemen that the Atlanta Falcons have to deal with once free agency begins.

0 Comments | Share: | Source: The Atlanta Journal-Constitution - D. Orlando Ledbetter



Read more: http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl#ixzz1T9XFIGkG


:(

I would love to have Clabo on the Chiefs. Absolute stud RT.

Just Passin' By
07-25-2011, 03:00 PM
Yeah, Bulger had a good stretch, but he has beaten so hard it would take alot for him to overcome. Not impossible. I think Cassel has some gun shyness as well, and it improved as the season went on last year. Hopefully with some line improvements again this season, he can continue to make progress.

Yep. I thought Cassel started to get a little antsy in 2009, after the beating he was taking for the first half of the year. I think the team turned it around before he became broken the way Carr was broken in Houston, but I won't feel confident about that until I see how he handles himself in the second half this season, when he's going to be facing a slew of good teams.

BossChief
07-25-2011, 03:02 PM
Haha

CoMo in mid season form already!!!

We are fucking back!!!!

I would rather re-sign Brodie Cro....hold on. I don't want this to be taken the wrong way.

I'd rather rape my self with a toilet brush than than sign Mark Bulger.

Literally speaking, we have a better chance of winning games with Stanzi.

Rams Fan
07-25-2011, 03:04 PM
Haha

CoMo in mid season form already!!!

We are ****ing back!!!!

I would rather re-sign Brodie Cro....hold on. I don't want this to be taken the wrong way.

I'd rather rape my self with a toilet brush than than sign Mark Bulger.

Literally speaking, we have a better chance of winning games with Stanzi.

It's probably because I'm a Rams fan and I don't think the Rams collapse was Bulger's fault, but I think Bulger has something left in the tank.

He was gun shy because of a horrible OL. He signed with the Ravens because they have a good OL. The Chiefs don't have a bad OL. Bulger can be a decent backup, if healthy.

Fansy the Famous Bard
07-25-2011, 03:06 PM
It's probably because I'm a Rams fan and I don't think the Rams collapse was Bulger's fault, but I think Bulger has something left in the tank.

He was gun shy because of a horrible OL. He signed with the Ravens because they have a good OL. The Chiefs don't have a bad OL. Bulger can be a decent backup, if healthy.

Wait?

You're a Rams Fan?

Learn something every day....

Hammock Parties
07-25-2011, 03:11 PM
These are all reposts from 5 months ago, I'm sure of it.

DeezNutz
07-25-2011, 03:13 PM
I'd rather rape my self with a toilet brush than than sign Mark Bulger.

Literally speaking, we have a better chance of winning games with Stanzi.

Welp, that's going to make a great YouTube video. Ugh.

ModSocks
07-25-2011, 03:18 PM
It looks like Free Agent visits start on Tuesday as well.

Oh fuck. Here we go.

ShowtimeSBMVP
07-25-2011, 03:20 PM
AdamSchefterAdam Schefter





And so it begins...filed to ESPN: The Ravens have told RB Willis McGahee they will be releasing him.

KCrockaholic
07-25-2011, 03:29 PM
"#Bills LB Paul Posluszny plans to test free agent market."

NFLdraftinsider

KCrockaholic
07-25-2011, 03:30 PM
"#Chiefs employees just heard all who took paycuts get their money back in Friday's checks. Also, everyone gets 3% raises retro to March 1"

mellinger

ModSocks
07-25-2011, 03:31 PM
AdamSchefterAdam Schefter





And so it begins...filed to ESPN: The Ravens have told RB Willis McGahee they will be releasing him.

CINCI. You heard it here first!

talastan
07-25-2011, 03:34 PM
AdamSchefterAdam Schefter





And so it begins...filed to ESPN: The Ravens have told RB Willis McGahee they will be releasing him.

So does this mean that they'll have cap space to keep McClain? :shrug:

ModSocks
07-25-2011, 03:39 PM
So does this mean that they'll have cap space to keep McClain? :shrug:

It was known for months that they were going to cut him anyway. McClain wants carries. That's why he's leaving Balt.

ShowtimeSBMVP
07-25-2011, 03:44 PM
RavensInsiderAaron Wilson

The Baltimore Ravens have informed NT Kelly Gregg that he'll be released, but he could return at a lower salary.

BigCatDaddy
07-25-2011, 03:46 PM
RavensInsiderAaron Wilson

The Baltimore Ravens have informed NT Kelly Gregg that he'll be released, but he could return at a lower salary.

34, but I'd take a shot.

Red Beans
07-25-2011, 03:47 PM
RavensInsiderAaron Wilson

The Baltimore Ravens have informed NT Kelly Gregg that he'll be released, but he could return at a lower salary.

Old... 34 and it looks like his production was down last year...

I'd say a little over vet minimum and pull the trigger.

KCrockaholic
07-25-2011, 03:50 PM
Well between Pat Williams and Gregg, I'd take Gregg. Not a huge fan of either though.

KevB
07-25-2011, 03:51 PM
Old... 34 and it looks like his production was down last year...

I'd say a little over vet minimum and pull the trigger.

As a rotation option, why not. He's also an Oklahoma guy, so maybe he'd like to be closer to home?

Red Beans
07-25-2011, 03:51 PM
Well between Pat Williams and Gregg, I'd take Gregg. Not a huge fan of either though.

The lesser of two dusty tubs of lard...

The Franchise
07-25-2011, 03:52 PM
"#Bills LB Paul Posluszny plans to test free agent market."

NFLdraftinsider

Fucking want.

KevB
07-25-2011, 03:52 PM
It's one thing to try to keep up with unrestricted free agents and trades, but to throw in all the players getting cut at different times throughout this week is going to be complete chaos.




I can't wait.

ChiefsCountry
07-25-2011, 03:53 PM
RavensInsiderAaron Wilson

The Baltimore Ravens have informed NT Kelly Gregg that he'll be released, but he could return at a lower salary.

Mount Cody is set to take over.

KCrockaholic
07-25-2011, 03:55 PM
Fucking want.

Uh yes. I like Belcher, but I'd take Poz anyday.

Titty Meat
07-25-2011, 03:58 PM
The best part about the Pat Williams thing is his reasoning: he wants to play for a winner. Includes Chiefs in that group.
16 minutes ago via web

OnTheWarpath15
07-25-2011, 03:59 PM
The best part about the Pat Williams thing is his reasoning: he wants to play for a winner. Includes Chiefs in that group.
16 minutes ago via web

Didn't he lose his StarCaps case?

Pretty sure dude's looking at a suspension to start the year.

Could be wrong.

Titty Meat
07-25-2011, 04:01 PM
Didn't he lose his StarCaps case?

Pretty sure dude's looking at a suspension to start the year.

Could be wrong.

Yea back in April the judge ruled against him. I don't want Williams and i'm probably in the minority.

aturnis
07-25-2011, 04:03 PM
Yanda, Woody, Colon, Gaither > Clabo.

aturnis
07-25-2011, 04:04 PM
****ing want.

2nd

the Talking Can
07-25-2011, 04:06 PM
The best part about the Pat Williams thing is his reasoning: he wants to play for a winner. Includes Chiefs in that group.
16 minutes ago via web



nice to be a desirable destination again...

DeezNutz
07-25-2011, 04:10 PM
Uh yes. I like Belcher, but I'd take Poz anyday.

Belcher is a fine football player, but we need to be stronger up the middle, and he's someone we could upgrade.

The Franchise
07-25-2011, 04:13 PM
Poz is probably going to go to the Giants.

Although I'd consider the Lions a darkhorse.

Hammock Parties
07-25-2011, 04:18 PM
"#Chiefs employees just heard all who took paycuts get their money back in Friday's checks. Also, everyone gets 3% raises retro to March 1"

mellinger

Good on ya, Clark.

BryanBusby
07-25-2011, 04:21 PM
"#Chiefs employees just heard all who took paycuts get their money back in Friday's checks. Also, everyone gets 3% raises retro to March 1"

mellinger

But I thought Clark was a total cheap ass? :shrug:

Urc Burry
07-25-2011, 04:25 PM
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Le'Ron McClain | Ravens | Interested: Chiefs?

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The Kansas City Chiefs saw their season end in a playoff loss to the Baltimore Ravens. Now, they may be looking to pilfer the Ravens in free agency. Aaron Wilson of the National Football Post reports that if the Ravens are unable to sign free agent Le'Ron McClain, the running back may find a home with the Chiefs.

aturnis
07-25-2011, 04:25 PM
Poz is probably going to go to the Giants.

Although I'd consider the Lions a darkhorse.

Giants are 6 million over the cap right now.

Just Passin' By
07-25-2011, 04:26 PM
But I thought Clark was a total cheap ass? :shrug:

If you don't think needlessly taking the money in the first place was a cheap move, I don't know what to tell you.

KCrockaholic
07-25-2011, 04:27 PM
McClain in red?
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Le'Ron McClain | Ravens | Interested: Chiefs?

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The Kansas City Chiefs saw their season end in a playoff loss to the Baltimore Ravens. Now, they may be looking to pilfer the Ravens in free agency. Aaron Wilson of the National Football Post reports that if the Ravens are unable to sign free agent Le'Ron McClain, the running back may find a home with the Chiefs.
OK the more I think about this, the more I love the idea of it.

aturnis
07-25-2011, 04:28 PM
If you don't think needlessly taking the money in the first place was a cheap move, I don't know what to tell you.

And if ther wasn't a season or income?

BryanBusby
07-25-2011, 04:31 PM
If you don't think needlessly taking the money in the first place was a cheap move, I don't know what to tell you.
Taking their money was a cheese move to begin with, but giving a raise and making it retroactive is something most people wouldn't do.

E: McClain would be nice, but I'm not sure I'd pay the money it'd take to get a RB like him in during this crazy ass FA period.

ZootedGranny
07-25-2011, 04:32 PM
I'd love for McClain to be a Chief.

Neither Cox nor Castille offer anything in the run game, and are at best average blockers. McClain can step in and outperform both of them in both aspects.

The Chiefs have the money and the opening, but my only question is just how much he wants to carry the ball.

Titty Meat
07-25-2011, 04:34 PM
I hope the Ravens releasing McGhaee doesn't mean that McClain will still be a Raven.

ModSocks
07-25-2011, 04:34 PM
McClain in red?
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Le'Ron McClain | Ravens | Interested: Chiefs?

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The Kansas City Chiefs saw their season end in a playoff loss to the Baltimore Ravens. Now, they may be looking to pilfer the Ravens in free agency. Aaron Wilson of the National Football Post reports that if the Ravens are unable to sign free agent Le'Ron McClain, the running back may find a home with the Chiefs.

It'd be nice if this report came from different sources aside from just Aaron Wilson. Who is he, BTW? Reputable?

tk13
07-25-2011, 04:35 PM
McClain needs more carries.

BryanBusby
07-25-2011, 04:36 PM
It'd be nice if this report came from different sources aside from just Aaron Wilson. Who is he, BTW? Reputable?

He's a pretty good source for Ravens related stuff, but that report is more of a guess than anything.

Hammock Parties
07-25-2011, 04:36 PM
It'd be nice if this report came from different sources aside from just Aaron Wilson. Who is he, BTW? Reputable?

I've heard it from another source.

Chiefs Pantalones
07-25-2011, 04:38 PM
I've heard it from another source.
The one true source of them all: Nick Athan. ;)

The Bad Guy
07-25-2011, 04:38 PM
I've heard it from another source.

Yeah, well so much for McClain.

aturnis
07-25-2011, 04:39 PM
I've heard it from another source.

Assclown is just repeating what he heard this guy say.

Quesadilla Joe
07-25-2011, 04:39 PM
McClain wants to be a RB, he wouldn't come to KC to play FB. He whines about carries all the time.

Urc Burry
07-25-2011, 04:39 PM
It'd be nice if this report came from different sources aside from just Aaron Wilson. Who is he, BTW? Reputable?

ESPN Insider... They also said KC is the best fit for Franklin, and we were one of about 4 or 5 suitors for Breaston

Chiefs Pantalones
07-25-2011, 04:40 PM
Chiefs report to training camp Thursday, in case you haven't heard...

KCrockaholic
07-25-2011, 04:41 PM
Although Zorn is the QB coach, he could be pushing for the Chiefs to go after McClain based on their history.

chiefscafan
07-25-2011, 04:42 PM
Nick wright had someone else from Baltimore on and he said the exact same thing Wilson said. As a Bama fan I love McClain pluse he helped me win fantasy one year great TD producer.

ChiefMojo
07-25-2011, 04:43 PM
No team is going to take McClain as a RB only. He has never been a RB only. He is a very good FB that is a dependable ball carrier much like T-Rich or Tolbert.

Any team that takes him, is taking him as a FB first and a secondary ball carrier/short yardage guy. You can still get well over 100 carriers being that guy.

The Bad Guy
07-25-2011, 04:43 PM
Chiefs report to training camp Thursday, in case you haven't heard...

99 degrees. Yikes.

The Bad Guy
07-25-2011, 04:44 PM
McClain wants to be a RB, he wouldn't come to KC to play FB. He whines about carries all the time.

And the village idiot chimes in.

He'd get the short yardage carries, tool.

Now go back to the video game thread and leave football talk to people who actually watch full NFL games.

DeezNutz
07-25-2011, 04:44 PM
McClain wants to be a RB, he wouldn't come to KC to play FB. He whines about carries all the time.

Plenty of carries for him in KC.

OnTheWarpath15
07-25-2011, 04:46 PM
No team is going to take McClain as a RB only. He has never been a RB only. He is a very good FB that is a dependable ball carrier much like T-Rich or Tolbert.

Any team that takes him, is taking him as a FB first and a secondary ball carrier/short yardage guy. You can still get well over 100 carriers being that guy.

Dude had 232 carries and 10 TD's in 2008. He's more than capable of stepping into Thomas Jones' role.

Titty Meat
07-25-2011, 04:48 PM
Frank you ever talk to that source you used to have?

ModSocks
07-25-2011, 04:49 PM
McClain wants to be a RB, he wouldn't come to KC to play FB. He whines about carries all the time.

He'll be both in KC

rocknrolla
07-25-2011, 04:50 PM
OK the more I think about this, the more I love the idea of it.

I LOVE it. That backfield would be unstoppable!

The Bad Guy
07-25-2011, 04:51 PM
Frank you ever talk to that source you used to have?

Off and on. I don't trust him nearly as much after he told me Weis was 100% staying.

I haven't gotten an ounce of anything from him since draft day.

chiefscafan
07-25-2011, 04:51 PM
Plus guys we need someone for the third and one or the fourth and one downs. We would better with him. Also as someone stated we can cut cox the other Bama FB and third TE sign him replace three positions.

ModSocks
07-25-2011, 04:52 PM
I wonder if the Chiefs would keep TJ if they did sign McClain.

ModSocks
07-25-2011, 04:53 PM
Plus guys we need someone for the third and one or the fourth and one downs. We would better with him. Also as someone stated we can cut cox the other Bama FB and third TE sign him replace three positions.

Those guys also fill a role on ST though. I'd imagine we'd keep Jones, he's a Haley favorite. But will Jones or McClain play ST?

aturnis
07-25-2011, 04:55 PM
Dude had 232 carries and 10 TD's in 2008. He's more than capable of stepping into Thomas Jones' role.

This. He would sometimes block for Charles in two back sets, and sometimes he'd carry the ball, and sometimes he'd run pass routes, and even block for Cassel. There is plenty of room for him to be a RB first and FB second. Including short yardage. We used Thomas Jones and Charles plenty in two back last year, how often did we actually use a true FB? On a pretty low percentage of our snaps is my guess.

chiefscafan
07-25-2011, 04:55 PM
But I'm not opposed to this idea as someone stated our backfield would be awesome.

ChiefMojo
07-25-2011, 04:56 PM
Knowmo, here is what McClain said himself about the matter. Notice he states FB first and RB second. I totally agree 58, he can be that guy if we don't have Jones. I think he could be the #2 RB behind Charles and get a LOT of carries to go with his FB duties.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d820c7111/article/ravens-fb-mcclain-i-want-to-get-my-chance-as-a-ball-carrier

KChiefs1
07-25-2011, 04:56 PM
Tim Barnes is the #1 UDFA Center?

Chiefs interested?

Hammock Parties
07-25-2011, 04:57 PM
I wonder if the Chiefs would keep TJ if they did sign McClain.

I would guess McClain would be the starting fullback, and they would probably split the carries Thomas Jones got last year between McClain and Jones.

The Franchise
07-25-2011, 04:57 PM
Man....if we got McClain....that'd be a fucking steal.

:D

OnTheWarpath15
07-25-2011, 04:58 PM
While it's not a high priority, I'd applaud Pioli if he went out and got McClain.

He's a great fit for us.

aturnis
07-25-2011, 05:00 PM
I wonder if the Chiefs would keep TJ if they did sign McClain.

Doubt it. He was a favorite when they thought he could do something for them. Then, when he failed, I think they still like his leadership and work ethic, just kept repeating the same company line though.