Guy from orange mane thinks denver is gonna win the AFC West

[Ming the Merciless]

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=99539

trololol

5) We are making the playoffs and winning the AFC West. Perfect combo of veterans and youth talent. Goddamnit, if Bey Bey was healthy we would get a lot more props.

I am almost willing to guarantee a 9-7 or 10-6 season. I think Fox is really licking his chops right now saying, "wow, this team isn't as bad as I thought they were going to be"

[notorious]

Something just isn't right over there.


They are just a different breed.

[MagicHef]

Well, you have people over here that think the Chiefs will sweep the division. There are homers everywhere.

[Ming the Merciless]

Well, you have people over here that think the Chiefs will sweep the division. There are homers everywhere.

Very true, its just i havent seen any whole threads about it here....And it was one of the top threads over there...

Pretty funny stuff...

[4th and Long]

Someone remind me ... Why do we care again?

[milkman]

Someone remind me ... Why do we care again?

Because we have to care about something, damn it!

[RedThat]

I say they should all just pass the dutchie to the left hand side.

[BigMeatballDave]

That poor guy has a rude awakening coming.

[4th and Long]

Because we have to care about something, damn it!
We do? Since when?

[milkman]

We do? Since when?

Okay, I lied.

Do you care?

[4th and Long]

Okay, I lied.

Do you care?
Liar! :p

Do I care?

Depends.

About NFL football, in general? Sure.

About my beloved Chiefs? Sure.

About Dungver? Hell no. Their fans are about as smart as a kickstand on a cow.

[Ming the Merciless]

http://extras.denverpost.com/cache/neighbors/photos/505dc9621850a4cc33df7392e191a62467d.jpg

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Who in the hell is Bey Bey????

[4th and Long]

http://extras.denverpost.com/cache/neighbors/photos/505dc9621850a4cc33df7392e191a62467d.jpg
Wh ... why?

[4th and Long]

Who in the hell is Bey Bey????
Wasn't that the chick from Dirty Dancing?

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Had to be KnowMo.

[Ming the Merciless]

Wh ... why?

Clearly she wants a big donk in the butt

[Mr. Flopnuts]

http://extras.denverpost.com/cache/neighbors/photos/505dc9621850a4cc33df7392e191a62467d.jpg

Hey honey, your ass is showin'.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Had to be KnowMo.

Can't be him. It didn't have this...:)

[4th and Long]

Clearly she wants a big donk in the butt
Well, ... that's fine and all but now I have to go wash my eyes out with bleach.

Thanks a lot. bastard

[4th and Long]

Hey honey, your ass is showin'.
Both of them.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Can't be him. It didn't have this...:)

It's serious business over there. Here, he's just the trolololololo guy. I love watching that dude cast his fly line.

[Ming the Merciless]

KnowMo

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRMeJ47HeaMdFU31PkM4srIOVNpWC5h1LvTUYxMzeza9rabDmUymg

[Mr. Flopnuts]

KnowMo is a top 20 poster on this board, in my honest opinion. He easily provides 30% of my entertainment on this board, and sometimes more when he's in full throttle.

[listopencil]

What, you mean GoChiefs has another troll account on the Mane?

[Ming the Merciless]

What, you mean GoChiefs has another troll account on the Mane?

with 24000 posts

[Los Pollos Hermanos]

Who in the hell is Bey Bey????

Demetrius Thomas

[notorious]

with 24000 posts


Sweet Jesus.

[rocknrolla]

Sweet Jesus.

Your surprised?

[notorious]

Your surprised?

If they didn't ban him 75% of the year it would match his count on CP.

[Hammock Parties]

If they didn't ban him 75% of the year it would match his count on CP.

I haven't been banned from there in forever.

I've been registered for 7 years....I like to talk football....and troll Donks fans. Sue me.

[notorious]

I haven't been banned from there in forever.

I've been registered for 7 years....I like to talk football....and troll Donks fans. Sue me.


We need more like you on the front lines. Myself, I get my time in face to face with Bronco fans out here in the great divide.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=99539

trololol

ROFL

[Titty Meat]

This was already discussed in another thread dumbass.

[Ming the Merciless]

This was already discussed in another thread dumbass.

repost police can suck my cock

you little hall monitor pussy ass bitch

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[Al Bundy]

I have had an account over there for 3 or 4 years that they have never activated.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

I have had an account over there for 3 or 4 years that they have never activated.

Taco John hates white people.

[MagicHef]

Now that I think about it, this is more than a little silly. I don't neccesarily agree with the poster on the OM, but what exactly was the Chiefs' record the year before they won the division?

[Mr. Arrowhead]

Someone should tell them that you dont get a trophy if you win the division in the preseason

[Ugly Duck]

I still think Denver will be in the cellar again, but their 1st stringers played their opponent 1st stringers better than KC & Oakland did. Of course, its only preseason & Jamaal hardly played & McFadden didn't play... but Denver did show better. Cudda been an ego thing - Chiefs & Raiders thought they were good & could coast & Broncos had an inferiority complex & had more to prove. That kinda stuff should fade by the time the season starts. Meanwhile, the Donk showing was good enough to send Donk fans into a tizzy. "Hope is a dangerous thing"....

[RealSNR]

I still think Denver will be in the cellar again, but their 1st stringers played their opponent 1st stringers better than KC & Oakland did. Of course, its only preseason & Jamaal hardly played & McFadden didn't play... but Denver did show better. Cudda been an ego thing - Chiefs & Raiders thought they were good & could coast & Broncos had an inferiority complex & had more to prove. That kinda stuff should fade by the time the season starts. Meanwhile, the Donk showing was good enough to send Donk fans into a tizzy. "Hope is a dangerous thing"....Hope is a dangerous thing? More like, "Stupidity is a dangerous thing"

[Bewbies]

I still think Denver will be in the cellar again, but their 1st stringers played their opponent 1st stringers better than KC & Oakland did. Of course, its only preseason & Jamaal hardly played & McFadden didn't play... but Denver did show better. Cudda been an ego thing - Chiefs & Raiders thought they were good & could coast & Broncos had an inferiority complex & had more to prove. That kinda stuff should fade by the time the season starts. Meanwhile, the Donk showing was good enough to send Donk fans into a tizzy. "Hope is a dangerous thing"....

The worst teams always kill it in the preseason.

[MagicHef]

Have you guys even watched the Broncos games? It's not like they're selling out to win the games, their starters are coming out at the same time or earlier than their opponents' starters, for instance.

[Ming the Merciless]

Have you guys even watched the Broncos games? It's not like they're selling out to win the games, their starters are coming out at the same time or earlier than their opponents' starters, for instance.

You mean in the TWO games where the starters havent played very much time?

[wazu]

Eh, crazier things have happened than the Broncos winning the West. They look good on paper. Fox is a competent coach. Raiders and Chiefs are average at best. Chargers underachieve. Who knows? Only thing I feel very confident of is that there will only be one team from our division that makes the playoffs this year.

[Okie_Apparition]

When a HC with an animal name, leaves a team with an animal name & joins another team with an animal name. A lot of poo needs cleaning up..takes awhile

[Saul Good]

The Broncos are older than shit. Old teams that are terrible only get worse.

[ThaVirus]

Something just isn't right over there.


They are just inbred.

FYP

[Ugly Duck]

Have you guys even watched the Broncos games? It's not like they're selling out to win the games, their starters are coming out at the same time or earlier than their opponents' starters, for instance.

Yeah. Thats why I wrote "their 1st stringers played their opponent 1st stringers better than KC & Oakland did."

[OctoberFart]

Well KC won't win 9 games. They went 4-6 against in a bad division.

[Saul Good]

Well KC won't win 9 games. They went 4-6 against in a bad division.

That was an anomaly. Generally, we don't play 10 divisional games.

[KCrockaholic]

Well KC won't win 9 games. They went 4-6 against in a bad division.

Hey another faider fan who can't count. What a surprise.

[Quesadilla Joe]

The Broncos are older than shit. Old teams that are terrible only get worse.

Denver only has 4 starters on their entire team that are 30 or older. Champ, Dawkins, Lloyd, and Goodman.

[Ming the Merciless]

Well KC won't win 9 games. They went 4-6 against in a bad division.

http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/i-can-count-to-potato.jpg?w=500&h=333

[OctoberFart]

Well I did have a typo not like any of you missouri rednecks have but still doesn't change the fact that KC had only 2 division wins. Who did they beat that was good?

[Valiant]

Well I did have a typo not like any of you missouri rednecks have but still doesn't change the fact that KC had only 2 division wins. Who did they beat that was good?

AutumnShit, the whole division sucks.. Oakland sucked ass last year also and swept the division and did not get in the playoffs, that is one of the funniest things ever, how the fuck you sweep a division and then literally shit your pants every other gam??. Then your dumb ass team went and got worse when you were poised to be in contention for once.. lol, not resigning your best players and firing a good coach that was turning it around to sign a shit yes man..

8-8 to 10-6 will win the division unless SD or KC goes on a tear and catches the other AFC teams in down weeks.. Den, could big COULD, contend if Orton starts all 16 games and catches fire and their DL stops the run.. But that is less likely then you having a football take worth a damn..

[Chiefs=Champions]

Well I did have a typo not like any of you missouri rednecks have but still doesn't change the fact that KC had only 2 division wins. Who did they beat that was good?

U spake english well!

[Ming the Merciless]

Well ah' dun did gots some typo not likes any uh ya' missouri rednecks gots but still duzn't change da damn fact dat KC had only 2 division wins. Who dun did dey whup' dat wuz baaaad?

:D

[Psyko Tek]

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I'ld hit it

[Bowser]

Now that I think about it, this is more than a little silly. I don't neccesarily agree with the poster on the OM, but what exactly was the Chiefs' record the year before they won the division?

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[Bowser]

The sun rises in the east, the water in the shower is wet, KnowMo is supremely confident, and AutumnWind proves he's a moron yet again. All is well at CP.

[The Bad Guy]

Well KC won't win 9 games. They went 4-6 against in a bad division.

You probably went through 2nd grade math about 10 times too.

Since when did they play 10 division games?

[The Bad Guy]

Raider fan chimes in after losing half his offensive line, his best defensive player and the only sure handed receiver on the team.

The Raiders and the Broncos are competing for the cellar. Oaklahoma and Alabama have more talent on offense than the Raiders.

[Gonzo]

You probably went through 2nd grade math about 10 times too.

Since when did they play 10 division games?

I take it he wasn't one of the 2 fans that ate bullets the other day, huh?

How come prayers aren't answered anymore?
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[Mile High Mania]

You guys are way too fixated on KnowMo and the Mane.

[OctoberFart]

AutumnShit, the whole division sucks.. Oakland sucked ass last year also and swept the division and did not get in the playoffs, that is one of the funniest things ever, how the **** you sweep a division and then literally shit your pants every other gam??. Then your dumb ass team went and got worse when you were poised to be in contention for once.. lol, not resigning your best players and firing a good coach that was turning it around to sign a shit yes man..

8-8 to 10-6 will win the division unless SD or KC goes on a tear and catches the other AFC teams in down weeks.. Den, could big COULD, contend if Orton starts all 16 games and catches fire and their DL stops the run.. But that is less likely then you having a football take worth a damn..

Yes I agree with your above post other than KC catching fire. They are not near as good as you guys think they are. That's all I'm saying. They took advantage of creampuff schedule and beat the garbage teams/got blown out by good teams.

[SDChiefs]

http://extras.denverpost.com/cache/neighbors/photos/505dc9621850a4cc33df7392e191a62467d.jpg

I would. Id love to blow my load on the bronco target on her back.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Demetrius Thomas

No, he's "The Gimp"

[Saul Good]

Yes I agree with your above post other than KC catching fire. They are not near as good as you guys think they are. That's all I'm saying. They took advantage of creampuff schedule and beat the garbage teams/got blown out by good teams.

The division hasn't improved. The Chargers are the only team that I care about. If we aren't head and shoulders above Oakland and Denver, we aren't going to challenge for shit anyway.

[boogblaster]

reality check .. the division is up for grabs ....

[vailpass]

This thread could be amusing later on in the season.

[Brock]

I think Denver probably will be better than most people think. But I also think if they wanted a Marty Schottenheimer type of coach, they should have just hired Marty Schottenheimer.

[Quesadilla Joe]

I think Denver probably will be better than most people think. But I also think if they wanted a Marty Schottenheimer type of coach, they should have just hired Marty Schottenheimer.

Denver's offense looks a lot like it did last year but we have more 2 TE sets mixed in. Denver isn't going to be a R2P2 offense from what I've seen.

[Hammock Parties]

Denver's offense looks a lot like it did last year but we have more 2 TE sets mixed in. Denver isn't going to be a R2P2 offense from what I've seen.

Panthers passing offense under Fox:

Passing attempts:

2010 - 26th
2009 - 29th
2008 - 32nd
2007 - 24th
2006 - 10th
2005 - 28th
2004 - 11th
2003 - 28th
2002 - 29th


Yup, no precedent there whatsoever.

You brought in the white Herm Edwards, dumped your #2 wide receiver and signed a brokedick RB to split carries with Slowshon.

You are going back to the stone age on offense.

[SDChiefs]

Yes I agree with your above post other than KC catching fire. They are not near as good as you guys think they are. That's all I'm saying. They took advantage of creampuff schedule and beat the garbage teams/got blown out by good teams.

Yet the near identical" creampuff" schedule the raiders played but couldn't finish above .500:

[Los Pollos Hermanos]

I don't how good the Bills offensive line is but... and I hate to say it... but Von Miller looked pretty good against Buffalo.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Bills line is pretty shitty. Tamba gonna do some rapin.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Panthers passing offense under Fox:

Passing attempts:

2010 - 26th
2009 - 29th
2008 - 32nd
2007 - 24th
2006 - 10th
2005 - 28th
2004 - 11th
2003 - 28th
2002 - 29th


Yup, no precedent there whatsoever.

You brought in the white Herm Edwards, dumped your #2 wide receiver and signed a brokedick RB to split carries with Slowshon.

You are going back to the stone age on offense.

Yep, if KnowMo knew a thing about football he would already know that. Enjoy that buttsex football and plenty of games turned off at halftime.

[Quesadilla Joe]

Yup, no precedent there whatsoever.

You brought in the white Herm Edwards, dumped your #2 wide receiver and signed a brokedick RB to split carries with Slowshon.

You are going back to the stone age on offense.

That is why we are 6th in passing yards in the preseason? Fox lets his coordinators call the plays, Fox and McCoy both know how good of a passing team we are.

If you watched Denver games last year and then watched them this year you would know that the offense looks pretty much exactly the same, except this year we will at least be able to run the ball somewhat effectively.

[Hammock Parties]

That is why we are 6th in passing yards in the preseason? Fox lets his coordinators call the plays, Fox and McCoy both know how good of a passing team we are.

If you watched Denver games last year and then watched them this year you would know that the offense looks pretty much exactly the same, except this year we will at least be able to run the ball somewhat effectively.

Are you fucking kidding me?

Preseason statistics are the most worthless performance predictor known to man.

FYI McCoy worked under Fox for seven years in Carolina. He's going to do exactly what Fox wants....and that's pound it up the butt.

The Broncos have one wide receiver worth a damn and no tight end to speak of....you can't put together a good passing game with that crap.

[Hammock Parties]

Bills line is pretty shitty. Tamba gonna do some rapin.

The Bills are moving their left guard to left tackle. LMAO


Levitre tries hand at left tackle
By Chris Brown, Lead Journalist
Posted 15 hours ago

Chan Gailey said during training camp that the only way to tell if an offensive line is jelling is with preseason games. With half the preseason over, Gailey and his offensive staff are still searching for the best combination of five up front. At Monday’s practice the left side of the offensive line saw some shuffling and again Andy Levitre was in the middle of it.

The starting offensive line alignment began the same as it has since training camp opened with Demetrius Bell at left tackle, Levitre at right guard, Eric Wood at center and Kraig Urbik and Erik Pears on the right side. Last week Chad Rinehart began rotating in and splitting reps with Levitre at left guard. When that happened on Monday however, Levitre did not exit the lineup. Instead he kicked out to left tackle and Demetrius Bell stepped out.

“My job is to get the five best on the field,” said Gailey. “Maybe that’s our five best is playing Chad (Rinehart) at guard and Andy (Levitre) at left tackle. We’re going to take a look at it. That’s our responsibility to take a look at it and Andy is doing an excellent job. He’s a very versatile player. He’s played it before so we’ll see how it goes.”

Levitre played in a pair of games his rookie season at left tackle including a start against Jacksonville. He also played most of his last two collegiate seasons at left tackle at Oregon State.

“I spoke with Chan and he said he wanted me to rotate a little bit this week so I know the offense pretty well so I feel like it shouldn’t be too hard to pick up on,” said Levitre. “Just some technical things that I’m not used to doing at guard that I have to do at tackle. It’s just a matter of getting some of the footwork down, muscle memory type things.”

Bell would rotate back in with the second unit and sometimes Rinehart would stay on the field when the second unit came on, but third string left guard Colin Brown moved up to the second unit for a good portion of the practice and took reps there. Levitre and Rinehart also took some second team reps through the course of the day.

While there’s no debating that Gailey and his offensive staff will make the final call as to which players make up the starting five this fall, Buffalo’s sideline boss made it sound like the duration of the latest line experiment will be dependent upon the performance of the players.

“I think it depends on them,” said Gailey. “I think it depends on both (Andy) and Demetrius how long we go with it, whether it becomes permanent or whether it becomes just something we tried for a little while.”

Levitre isn’t sure where this newest change will lead, but is committed to being ready for it no matter how brief the amount of preparation time.

“It’s still preseason we still have two weeks left,” he said. “I don’t know what their plan is if that’s going to be a backup spot for me or what not, but being able to kick out at tackle will definitely help us as a team in case we get in a squeeze out there.”

Gailey wasn’t shy in outlining why Bell was now rotating with Levitre as the starting left tackle.

“Consistency,” he said. “That’s the bottom line. You have to be consistent up front. You don’t have to be great or perfect, but you have to be consistent. We’ve got to make sure we get the guys that can be consistent for us up there.”

Apparently Bell’s most recent performance against Denver was such that Gailey and his staff felt they had to at least see if there was a better option. It’s certainly not an ideal situation knowing the season opener is less than three weeks away, but a shortened offseason hasn’t helped. When asked if he has a drop dead date as to when he and his staff will have a final decision on a starting five, Gailey had one.

“Yes,” he said. “September 11th.”

[Quesadilla Joe]

Are you ****ing kidding me?

Preseason statistics are the most worthless performance predictor known to man.

FYI McCoy worked under Fox for seven years in Carolina. He's going to do exactly what Fox wants....and that's pound it up the butt.

The Broncos have one wide receiver worth a damn and no tight end to speak of....you can't put together a good passing game with that crap.

We returned everybody from the #7 pass offense in the NFL at WR and added two pass catching TE's in Daniel Fells and Julius Thomas. We will have at least a 55/45 pass to run ratio this season, guaranteed.

[BigCatDaddy]

We returned everybody from the #7 pass offense in the NFL at WR and added two pass catching TE's in Daniel Fells and Julius Thomas. We will have at least a 55/45 pass to run ratio this season, guaranteed.

I wouldn't dismiss losing Gaffney so easily.

[Hammock Parties]

We returned everybody from the #7 pass offense in the NFL at WR

Really?

Where the fuck is Jabar Gaffney? In Washington.

Where is Demaryius Thomas? Broken.

Where is Daniel Graham? In Tennessee.

Where is Ryan Harris? Philly.

How is that returning everybody? It's not.


and added two pass catching TE's in Daniel Fells and Julius Thomas.

Just because they can catch a pass does not make them "pass catching tight ends." You added some scrub and a late-round rookie. Stop overblowing them as potential threats.

[Saul Good]

Where is Brandon Lloyd? At the Country Kitchen Buffet with Champ Bailey.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Julius Thomas may catch 20 balls this year.

[TEX]

And Denver isn't gonna miss a beat with Bubby Brister as QB...Same stable of idiots. :)

[Pasta Little Brioni]

The Bills are moving their left guard to left tackle. LMAO


Levitre tries hand at left tackle
By Chris Brown, Lead Journalist
Posted 15 hours ago

Chan Gailey said during training camp that the only way to tell if an offensive line is jelling is with preseason games. With half the preseason over, Gailey and his offensive staff are still searching for the best combination of five up front. At Monday’s practice the left side of the offensive line saw some shuffling and again Andy Levitre was in the middle of it.

The starting offensive line alignment began the same as it has since training camp opened with Demetrius Bell at left tackle, Levitre at right guard, Eric Wood at center and Kraig Urbik and Erik Pears on the right side. Last week Chad Rinehart began rotating in and splitting reps with Levitre at left guard. When that happened on Monday however, Levitre did not exit the lineup. Instead he kicked out to left tackle and Demetrius Bell stepped out.

“My job is to get the five best on the field,” said Gailey. “Maybe that’s our five best is playing Chad (Rinehart) at guard and Andy (Levitre) at left tackle. We’re going to take a look at it. That’s our responsibility to take a look at it and Andy is doing an excellent job. He’s a very versatile player. He’s played it before so we’ll see how it goes.”

Levitre played in a pair of games his rookie season at left tackle including a start against Jacksonville. He also played most of his last two collegiate seasons at left tackle at Oregon State.

“I spoke with Chan and he said he wanted me to rotate a little bit this week so I know the offense pretty well so I feel like it shouldn’t be too hard to pick up on,” said Levitre. “Just some technical things that I’m not used to doing at guard that I have to do at tackle. It’s just a matter of getting some of the footwork down, muscle memory type things.”

Bell would rotate back in with the second unit and sometimes Rinehart would stay on the field when the second unit came on, but third string left guard Colin Brown moved up to the second unit for a good portion of the practice and took reps there. Levitre and Rinehart also took some second team reps through the course of the day.

While there’s no debating that Gailey and his offensive staff will make the final call as to which players make up the starting five this fall, Buffalo’s sideline boss made it sound like the duration of the latest line experiment will be dependent upon the performance of the players.

“I think it depends on them,” said Gailey. “I think it depends on both (Andy) and Demetrius how long we go with it, whether it becomes permanent or whether it becomes just something we tried for a little while.”

Levitre isn’t sure where this newest change will lead, but is committed to being ready for it no matter how brief the amount of preparation time.

“It’s still preseason we still have two weeks left,” he said. “I don’t know what their plan is if that’s going to be a backup spot for me or what not, but being able to kick out at tackle will definitely help us as a team in case we get in a squeeze out there.”

Gailey wasn’t shy in outlining why Bell was now rotating with Levitre as the starting left tackle.

“Consistency,” he said. “That’s the bottom line. You have to be consistent up front. You don’t have to be great or perfect, but you have to be consistent. We’ve got to make sure we get the guys that can be consistent for us up there.”

Apparently Bell’s most recent performance against Denver was such that Gailey and his staff felt they had to at least see if there was a better option. It’s certainly not an ideal situation knowing the season opener is less than three weeks away, but a shortened offseason hasn’t helped. When asked if he has a drop dead date as to when he and his staff will have a final decision on a starting five, Gailey had one.

“Yes,” he said. “September 11th.”

:drool: Erik Pears and Levitre or Demetrius Bell as a team's starting tackles. This team gets a lead, ohhhh my.

[TEX]

We returned everybody from the #7 pass offense in the NFL at WR and added two pass catching TE's in Daniel Fells and Julius Thomas. We will have at least a 55/45 pass to run ratio this season, guaranteed.

Are those the same people that were also part of 4-12?

[BigCatDaddy]

Where is Brandon Lloyd? At the Country Kitchen Buffet with Champ Bailey.

He's only 30. He did have a career year last year so it will be interesting to see if he was just a one year or wonder or legit. I think given the lack of other threats he will have more targets then last year so he could put up some big numbers again.

[Quesadilla Joe]

Really?

Where the **** is Jabar Gaffney? In Washington.

Where is Demaryius Thomas? Broken.

Where is Daniel Graham? In Tennessee.

Where is Ryan Harris? Philly.

How is that returning everybody? It's not.




Just because they can catch a pass does not make them "pass catching tight ends." You added some scrub and a late-round rookie. Stop overblowing them as potential threats.

Eric Decker has emerged as a legit threat and made Gaffney expendable. Demaryius Thomas is already running full speed sprints and could be back midseason, and he didn't get a whole lot of playing last year anyways

Daniel Graham??? ROFL He is one of the best run blocking TE's in the game but he has hands of stone. Fells and Thomas are legit receiving TE's, Julius Thomas will be a stud by midseason.

Ryan Harris was benched last year.

[Quesadilla Joe]

He's only 30. He did have a career year last year so it will be interesting to see if he was just a one year or wonder or legit. I think given the lack of other threats he will have more targets then last year so he could put up some big numbers again.

He is a young 30 as well because of how little he has played in his career. He plays a lot like Marvin Harrison did, he will catch anything that comes his way and then gets down.

[BigCatDaddy]

Eric Decker has emerged as a legit threat and made Gaffney expendable. Demaryius Thomas is already running full speed sprints and could be back midseason, and he didn't get a whole lot of playing last year anyways

Daniel Graham??? ROFL He is one of the best run blocking TE's in the game but he has hands of stone. Fells and Thomas are legit receiving TE's, Julius Thomas will be a stud by midseason.

Ryan Harris was benched last year.

Eric "6 catch" Decker? Which one of those 6 catches made him emerge as a legit threat?

[Hammock Parties]

Eric Decker has emerged as a legit threat

A guy who had six catches last year and has 4 catches in preseason this year has "emerged as a legit threat." Riiiiight.

and made Gaffney expendable.

ROFL

Bullshit, asshole. Decker is not starting.


Demaryius Thomas is already running full speed sprints and could be back midseason

Dream on.

Julius Thomas will be a stud by midseason.

If only every fourth-round pick could be so lucky.

You are pulling shit out of your ass. Get the fuck out of here with this weak ass shit.

http://i.imgur.com/eah3W.gif

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Denver was a below average offense last year anyway, so if they want to stay status quo....Sure they threw it alot, but hell the Jags outscored them last year.

[Hammock Parties]

Eric Decker has emerged as a legit threat

Someone put this in their sig. LMAO

[Quesadilla Joe]

Eric "6 catch" Decker? Which one of those 6 catches made him emerge as a legit threat?

Decker would have been a first round pick if he didn't have that foot injury coming out. He is gonna be pretty damn good.

[Bowser]

TROLLOLOLOLOLOL

[Hammock Parties]

Decker would have been a first round pick if he didn't have that foot injury coming out. He is gonna be pretty damn good.

CAN'T BEAT OUT EDDIE ROYAL

PRETTY DAMN GOOD

[Quesadilla Joe]

Emerging NFL Talents: WR Eric Decker

Although my takes on the players in the next series of posts might be useful to fantasy owners, this isn’t a fantasy football article. I’m not projecting stats. I’m writing about talented players whose portfolio of work reveal techniques and behaviors that I think translate well to the NFL game. At the end of the year, you might look at the stat-lines and conclude that the quantity of the production wasn’t eye-catching for each of these emerging talents, but the quality of work they did was impressive enough for opposing teams, fans, and more astute fantasy owners to take notice.

WR Eric Decker, Denver Broncos

One of my favorite receivers from the 2010 draft class, Decker’s game is well-suited to the NFL because he consistently demonstrated skills at the University of Minnesota that are commonplace requirements for a successful NFL receiver. What you’re going to see repeatedly from Decker in this highlight package is the following:

Good initial set up of breaks
Defeating press with use of hands and shoulders
Winning real estate early in the route
Maintaining real estate later in the route
Receptions after contact
A “my ball mentality”
Functional strength
Functional speed

Most people during the 2010 NFL Draft were enamored with Decker’s classmate DeMaryius Thomas. Personally, I have always thought Decker was the better player. Thomas’ Achilles injury may prevent us from truly seeing how this comparison would have turned out, but I believed Thomas’ skills at the position were not nearly as refined as they should be for a player drafted ahead of a Dez Bryant.

I understand that character was a motivating factor, but if you remove character from the equation and focus solely on skill, Dez Bryant wins easily. I think Decker does, too, despite the fact that Thomas was a more eye-catching athlete in terms of size and speed. However, I still believe NFL teams frequently make mistakes with how they scout receivers because they pick athletes still learning a lot about playing wide receiver over athletic wide receivers.

There’s a difference. Eric Decker is a good example of such. See for yourself.

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Setting up breaks and catching an under-thrown ball (0:08) – Note the stem with the jab step to the inside against the CB in off-man coverage to set up break to the sideline on the short out. Then just as Paul Coffman and Larry Fitzgerald demonstrated in the instructional videos from a previous post, Decker uses his arms well in conjunction with his torso to twist towards the under-thrown football. Decker makes this catch look easy. The reason is spot-on technique. We’ll see more of this in this highlight package.

Defeating press, winning and maintaining real estate against defender, and reception after contact (0:14) – Decker is decent-sized receiver. His pre-draft height-weight was 6’3″, 217 lbs., which is almost identical to Dez Bryant’s dimensions. Rams draft pick Austin Pettis is also 6’3″, but where Pettis struggled to get under the jam on a consistent basis at the Senior Bowl practices, Decker demonstrates the ability to dip his outside shoulder as he drives off the line of scrimmage to get just enough of his body in front of the defensive back playing press. Decker then quickly turns inside to get his back to the defender just as Sterling Sharpe explained in his YouTube coaching session.

At this point, Decker has all the separation he needs to make a catch. However, we also see that Decker intentionally slows down on this deep post. Based on the placement of the throw, I believe Decker knew his quarterback’s arm strength and didn’t want to outrun the throw. With the DB trailing, Decker knew that an under-thrown pass could make it easy for the defender to undercut the route and make a play.

So Decker does the smart thing by slowing down and using his back to block the path of the DB. This adjustment allows Decker to make the catch and force the defender to wrap the receiver from behind rather than make a play on the ball. This adjustment on a deep route is the behavior of a smart wide receiver who understands where he is, where he needs to be, and who he’s working with to make the play.

It’s also worth noting that on this play, and the next, that Decker knows how to use his hands to get separation without drawing a penalty. He also shows enough burst to get behind a defender early. As I have mentioned in the past week, it is more important to get position behind the defender early in a route than it is to show remarkable vertical speed. Decker does this with decent burst, awareness of his body relative to the defender, and good functional strength.

Hands technique, hand-eye coordination, and a “my ball mentality” (1:03) – Decker makes an excellent catch between the cornerback and the safety where he has to leap into a small gap between two defenders. What stands out at the beginning of this route is the placement of his hands on the cornerback playing press. Decker’s hands are consistently on the hands or forearm of the defender throughout much of the route.

As Paul Coffman and Calvin Johnson demonstrated in their instructional videos, hand placement in this area prevents the defender from getting his hands into the body of the receiver. Decker’s perfect execution of this technique allows him to focus on the trajectory of the football and time his leap because he has control of the defender to gain position when he’s ready. The actual break inside and catch is good athleticism and attitude. Decker is aggressive to the ball and not shy about dealing with contact from two defenders to get it.

This might be seen as an intangible, but to me there is nothing intangible about it. It is a behavior that we just saw happen. You’re going to see it happen consistently in this highlight package.

Route adjustment, sideline awareness, “my ball mentality,” and toughness (1:44) – On this 3rd and 6 from a shotgun set with three receivers (1×2) in 11 personnel (1 RB and 1 TE), Decker motions inside the nearside slot receiver and uses his teammate to run a quick flat route as his quarterback rolls to that side. The DB assigned to Decker does a good job of jamming and riding the receiver out of his break, but Decker quickly turns the play up the sideline adjusting the flat route to a sideline fade underneath the safety. This is a great play by Decker because his quarterback committed to the right side with his roll and Decker works to find a second opening.

Another reason the play is so great is how quickly Decker makes the decision to turn up field; there is little to no hesitation and it almost looks like he meant to run an out and up. However, the down and distance situation and attempt to rub free of the CB on the flat is an indication Minnesota was going for a high-percentage play.

The next part of the play is what is going to make him a valuable NFL receiver. Decker gets down the sideline, turns to the ball in the air, and makes the grab with full extension of his body inside the boundary with a safety bearing down on him. In any job, the first thing that tends to break down in human performance when that human being feels pressure is technique. Decker’s hand positioning to catch the ball, his awareness of the sideline, and his position to the trailing cornerback are all first-rate on this play despite the fact he knows the safety his going to hit him in the chops. This is an NFL-caliber play.

Setting up breaks and maintaining focus (2:21) – Although it is obvious that the Cal defensive back is looking into the backfield on this play and he bites hard on the quarterback’s shoulder fake, Decker does his part with the route by executing a fluid jab step inside in conjunction with a good head fake. One of the more underrated things about this play is that Decker doesn’t have a lapse in technique despite clearly beating the defender. He does a good job continuing to track the ball, get his body in front of it, and use sound hands technique to make the catch.

How many times have we seen good NFL receivers drop wide-open touchdown passes like this? I remember Randy Moss doing it a couple of years ago. The reason is a lapse of technique that occurs when a player encounters and easier than anticipated play. There’s a psychological tendency to lose focus and intensity in these situations. Decker maintains it here.

Setting up combo route and reception after contact (3:22) – This is an empty backfield set (2×2) with Decker at the top of the screen working a corner route with his teammate in the slot running a short flat route. Decker’s initial dip inside from the line of scrimmage accomplishes several things for the offense. First, he cuts in front of the cornerback in the shallow zone of the flat and this gives the slot receiver time to make his break. It also forces the linebacker to continue dropping to a depth to account for Decker’s initial release. This opens the field for the quarterback.

Second, Decker’s inside release sets up his break on the corner route because it forces the corner and safety to account for the inside and gives Decker room to break outside. This also makes the quarterback’s throw easier. If Decker’s inside release weren’t effective, this throw would have had to been made in much tighter coverage. Although Decker takes a hit from the corner after making the grab, it was a significantly easier play to execute because of the route.

Set up of break (3:31) – From the slot, Decker executes this fundamental technique of the jab step and head fake to force the defender to account for the outside. Decker’s recognizes that the defender has to play the outside and the execution is fluid and believable. Note how Decker initially drives the defender backwards because he puts his head down to sell a deep route before his break. Every route we see Decker shows something different and valuable: hand positioning, a shoulder dip, head fakes, etc. And all of them are done as if they were second nature.

Buying back real estate late (3:48) – Decker’s touchdown reception on the corner fade is a great example of waiting until the very last moment to turn his back to the defender to set up the back shoulder throw. Waiting until the ball almost arrives is so important in tight coverage, because there is such little distance between the receiver and the defender that making the break too early would give the defender more time to reaction. The greater amount of time a receiver gives a defender to react in tight space, the more distance he can cover. In a situation like this, a split second and a few inches might as well be a yard of separation.

There are two consistent behaviors I see from Decker both in games I studied and on this highlight package hat deserve some criticism. The first is the tendency to allow the ball into his body. There are plays where Decker either catches the ball against his body, or he uses his hands but he allows the ball to travel to the last available window to make the catch. In both of these situations, Decker creates opportunities for defenders to jar the ball loose.

The second issue is that Decker didn’t gain a lot of yardage after the catch at Minnesota. I’m not convinced Decker lacks the athleticism to make these plays because you will see that, at least in this highlight package, Decker is targeted on routes where he’s dealing with multiple defenders or making adjustments to the football that would naturally limit a receiver’s opportunity to run after the catch. At the same time, Decker didn’t appear dynamic in the open field on the targets where he had room to run.

Overall, this lack of big-play ability after the catch for a receiver with Decker’s consistent skills to get open and make plays in traffic is like complaining about the design of the tasty icing on an even better tasting cake. Chad Ochocinco has a 3.3 yards after catch average for his career. Calvin Johnson had a 4.4 ypc last year – 36th overall in total yards after the catch – a few spots ahead of Mike Williams (TB) and Andre Johnson. All four players are prized for their route skills and/or athleticism to win the ball in the air. They are just four examples of players who demonstrate that YAC is not nearly as important a part of receiving as getting open and making the catch down the field.

Give me a player who makes the play as drawn up rather than the player who might get me extra IF he makes the play at all. I foresee Decker as an excellent complement to a big play receiver like Brandon Lloyd. If Jabar Gaffney or Eddie Royal can produce in the slot or the Broncos get a tight end to develop as a threat down the seam, Decker’s stats could complement his emergence as a viable NFL starter.

http://mattwaldmanrsp.com/2011/07/03/emerging-nfl-talents-wr-eric-decker/

[Rooster]

Tebow Christ... Nobody is going to read all that shit.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

I never thought I'd see the day where one was swinging from not only Julius Thomas nutsack, but also Eric Decker.

[Saul Good]

Where's the date on that article, knowmo?

[Quesadilla Joe]

Where's the date on that article, knowmo?

July 3rd, 2011

[Saul Good]

July 3rd, 2011

My 33rd b-day, hooray for Saul.

Anyway, why do you suppose the author had to use a video from 2009 to showcase Decker's talents?

[Quesadilla Joe]

Tebow Christ... Nobody is going to read all that shit.

It's a very well written piece that gives you better analysis on what makes Decker good or bad than you will find anywhere on the internet.

[Quesadilla Joe]

My 33rd b-day, hooray for Saul.

Anyway, why do you suppose the author had to use a video from 2009 to showcase Decker's talents?

Probably because he wanted to be able to show the reader what he was seeing and that was all he could find.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

It's the same BS that's been and will be spewed over hundreds of WR bust past, present, and future.

[Saul Good]

Probably because he wanted to be able to show the reader what he was seeing and that was all he could find.

He couldn't find anything from the 2010 to show Decker producing?

[vailpass]

LMAO at Knowmo still messing up some ChiefsFan's heads. Get a couple playoff wins and maybe you won't be so easily shaken.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Nah, we are having fun playing whack-a-troll

[Rooster]

Nah, we are having fun playing whack-a-troll

I can never tell if the guy is serious or not. It's funny though.

[vailpass]

Nah, we are having fun playing whack-a-troll

I know most of you are but some, such as Goatcheese, think this is serious business and he's getting a chance to be the player he never was.
Funny shit.

[RealSNR]

LMAO at Knowmo still messing up some ChiefsFan's heads. Get a couple playoff wins and maybe you won't be so easily shaken.Do you think Packer fans ignore AllDay2724 on their forums?

That's what I thought.

[vailpass]

Do you think Packer fans ignore AllDay7364 on their forums?

That's what I thought.

Sorry, this place is the extent of my pro football board exposure so I don't know who that is. But I take your point.

[Saul Good]

Sorry, this place is the extent of my pro football board exposure so I don't know who that is. But I take your point.

You're smart enough to figure out that it was a play on knowmo2724's moniker using Adrian Peterson's nickname on a Packers board.

[|Zach|]

LMAO at Knowmo still messing up some ChiefsFan's heads. Get a couple playoff wins and maybe you won't be so easily shaken.

Loose nail gets the hammer.

[Bowser]

Loose nail gets the hammer.

I'm stealing this. Heh.

[vailpass]

You're smart enough to figure out that it was a play on knowmo2724's moniker using Adrian Peterson's nickname on a Packers board.

Thank you for your vote of confidence but I have to say I did not catch that. Now that you mention it I sort of recall AllDay being associated with AP but I'd be lying if I didn't admit that one went over my head. Good one SNR.

[Oh Snap]

lol they have no clue just how bad its going to get...we know because we experienced it first hand. Give them another year of suckage before it sets in that they are truly screwed.

[Ugly Duck]

Are you ****ing kidding me? Preseason statistics are the most worthless performance predictor known to man.

Who would post preseason stats?

Preseason game OAK vs 9ers

Total yards

OAK 62

SF 220

[Rams Fan]

Who would post preseason stats?

LMAO

[vailpass]

Who would post preseason stats?

LMAO

[Ugly Duck]

Tebow Christ... Nobody is going to read all that shit.

http://menversus.com/images/1znn70p.jpg

[O.city]

dang kinda gotya there Gif

[Okie_Apparition]

They need to sign Barber. A Tiki & Tebow backfield would be sick

[Quesadilla Joe]

Someone put this in their sig. LMAO

Decker is coming up next on PFT Live if you want to watch...

http://hqplayer.nbcsports.com/Player.html?PID=44

Thru 2 games, Decker is tied for 4th in the NFL with 3 TDs. Only player in the NFL with multiple scrimmage TDs and a return TD.https://twitter.com/#!/psmyth12/status/115809885035311104

[Ace Gunner]

http://extras.denverpost.com/cache/neighbors/photos/505dc9621850a4cc33df7392e191a62467d.jpg

what an ass :D

[vailpass]

There is so much of this kind of material from GoatCheese and a few others just laying around here.

[Quesadilla Joe]

Eric Decker has emerged as a legit threat

WR Decker emerging as a threat


WR Eric Decker now has three TDs in two weeks, one via a punt return. Only three of his 14 career receptions have gone for less than 10 yards. "Eric's one of those guys that you can tell is just ready to take off and take it to the next level," QB Kyle Orton said. Decker, who's averaging 19.2 yards per catch in one-plus seasons, did have a fumble Sunday. http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/rapid-reports/post/15606934