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Aspengc8
08-29-2011, 07:46 AM
IMO we have decent personnel to run a 4-3 or any even front scheme.

DE: gilberry/Hali/Bailey
DT: dorsey/gregg/powe
MLB: dj/belcher/williams
OLB: houston/miller/sheffield

DJ can be played at OLB in a even scheme, since he is one of the better coverage LB's I have seen to date. Problem is our LB's dont have much size for a 3-4 scheme, and out of our 3 DL, none require a double team. I think gilberry/hali on the ends would let us rush the passer with 4, and use our more mobile LB's in coverage. Dorsey back to a 3 tech DT, with gregg/powe helps vs interior runs too. Most teams that dominate odd fronts have beastly DL, and linebackers that look like they lift weights. Our LB's look like they go to planet fitness.

Just a thought.

Will try in Madden 12 tonight, to verify lol.

the Talking Can
08-29-2011, 07:48 AM
please fucking kill yourself

Lzen
08-29-2011, 07:50 AM
please ****ing kill yourself

This. /end thread

Chiefs=Champions
08-29-2011, 07:53 AM
This must be a mult.. Easily the dumbest thread ive seen in awhile...

WhitiE
08-29-2011, 07:54 AM
Go tell Romeo

talastan
08-29-2011, 07:54 AM
Wow didn't someone post this thread last year?


Yes Pat, I would like see if there is an:





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O.city
08-29-2011, 08:10 AM
The thing is yes we do run a 3-4 but we are in different fronts constantly. It really isn't right to say a team is 3-4 or 4-3 because they run so many different packages with different fronts that are a mix of both.

We are a base 3-4 team and have drafted the personel to play that front. Why would we want to change it? It would be the same as when Haley came in switching from a 4-3 to a 3-4 and not having the people to do it.

lcarus
08-29-2011, 08:27 AM
All I know is since we switched to running out of the 3-4 primarily, our defense has gotten better and better.

DTLB58
08-29-2011, 09:07 AM
Well they aren't going to change NOW, after all the player aquisitions that have gone on to tailor to it.

Haley has said (First season I believe) that with all the coaches that are on staff familiar to it, including Pioli, to find the right players, it would be foolish not to.

The Franchise
08-29-2011, 09:32 AM
Yep....because we're going to take DJ....who is a beast in the 3-4 and put him back into a 4-3 where he was mediocre.


And we don't run a 4-3 because Jesus fucking hates you.

BossChief
08-29-2011, 09:46 AM
not this shit again...

Brock
08-29-2011, 09:46 AM
great thread, bro.

Hammock Parties
08-29-2011, 09:48 AM
Hali would go back to getting obliterated against the run in a 4-3.

He's much better on the edge.

-King-
08-29-2011, 09:52 AM
No.

...just no.
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Sofa King
08-29-2011, 09:59 AM
Lets fire Crennel while we're at it. It's not like he's been fucking amazing or anything.

lcarus
08-29-2011, 10:00 AM
Yeah the 3-4 has gotten us the best out of players that were on the brink of becoming "busts". Derrick Johnson, Tamba Hali, and Glenn Dorsey are all doing great in this system. During Herm's reign of 4-3 "cover 2" terror, those 3 players were much worse off.

BossChief
08-29-2011, 10:02 AM
Romeo won a championship running a 4-3 in NE before making the switch a little less than a year later...if he thought we would be better off as a 4-3, we probably would be one.

OctoberFart
08-29-2011, 10:18 AM
Think of the 4-3 you guys could of had if you kept Allen.

Ace Gunner
08-29-2011, 10:21 AM
The 34defense Haley runs is the same defense Parcells ran for the Giants. It's the same one Belichick ran everywhere he's gone, including with the Giants under Parcells.

That's what they prefer, they like the odds of finding players for that system compared to paying big $ for DE's in the 43 that are rarely as good as they are paid.

They like to rush 3 and drop into zone. If they can do this 10 times a game, they usually get turnovers.

Omaha
08-29-2011, 10:22 AM
Think of the 4-3 you guys could of had if you kept Allen.

"could of"

ROFLROFLROFL

Mr. Laz
08-29-2011, 10:54 AM
i have a better question ... why are we still seeing stupid threads bout this?

we are just now getting 3-4 personnel.

a case can be made that Hali IS a 3-4 OLB considering his success in the new system.
Houston and Sheffield ARE 3-4 OLBs.
Gregg and Power are NT's
Dorsey can play in both but he's had more success in a 3-4
DJ has had more success in a 3-4
TJax has shown a glint (cross fingers)
Bailey looks to be a 5 tech with potential

we are converted and committed to a 3-4 so just let it go.

BigMeatballDave
08-29-2011, 11:16 AM
"could of"

ROFLROFLROFLThat is quite common around here.

Mr. Laz
08-29-2011, 11:22 AM
"could of"

ROFLROFLROFL
it comes from typing like you talk

In the heartland you say 'could of' or even 'coulda'

I type could of instead of could have all the time

:shrug:

but carry on making fun of the faider troll. :thumb:

Pasta Little Brioni
08-29-2011, 11:37 AM
Cocaine is a hell of a drug.

whoman69
08-29-2011, 12:51 PM
Is it 2009 again and nobody told me?

Gonzo
08-29-2011, 12:58 PM
Think of the 4-3 you guys could of had if you kept Allen.

Think of the running game you guys "could of" had if YOU kept Allen....

LMAO

Mr. Laz
08-29-2011, 12:59 PM
Think of the running game you guys "could of" had if YOU kept Allen....

LMAO
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Gonzo
08-29-2011, 01:59 PM
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beach tribe
08-29-2011, 01:59 PM
Think of the 4-3 you guys could of had if you kept Allen.

At least we got Charles out of the deal. You lost your best offensive, and defensive players, and got absolutely nothing.

My God your franchise is a joke.

Reerun_KC
08-29-2011, 02:01 PM
IMO we have decent personnel to run a 4-3 or any even front scheme.

DE: gilberry/Hali/Bailey
DT: dorsey/gregg/powe
MLB: dj/belcher/williams
OLB: houston/miller/sheffield

DJ can be played at OLB in a even scheme, since he is one of the better coverage LB's I have seen to date. Problem is our LB's dont have much size for a 3-4 scheme, and out of our 3 DL, none require a double team. I think gilberry/hali on the ends would let us rush the passer with 4, and use our more mobile LB's in coverage. Dorsey back to a 3 tech DT, with gregg/powe helps vs interior runs too. Most teams that dominate odd fronts have beastly DL, and linebackers that look like they lift weights. Our LB's look like they go to planet fitness.

Just a thought.

Will try in Madden 12 tonight, to verify lol.

ROFL

Yeah if it works in Madden then it should work in real life...

Rasputin
08-29-2011, 02:10 PM
Cocaine is a hell of a drug.

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penguinz
08-29-2011, 03:15 PM
Think of the 4-3 you guys could of had if you kept Allen.Jared Allen is too busy liying about walking up on 3 mountain lions sunbathing on a rock.

Omaha
08-29-2011, 04:10 PM
it comes from typing like you talk

In the heartland you say 'could of' or even 'coulda'

I type could of instead of could have all the time

:shrug:

but carry on making fun of the faider troll. :thumb:

I think "could've" is what you're really saying. :thumb:

Mr. Laz
08-29-2011, 04:11 PM
I think "could've" is what you're really saying. :thumb:
Kate Moss is fat.

veist
08-29-2011, 04:43 PM
In addition to everything else that has been mentioned the strength of the 3-4 is you can be creative with how you generate pressure and who you put into coverage. Its certainly nice to have the flexibility to be even more creative with personnel groupings by having those 4-3 sub packages while the base defense being a creative 3-4 front. Bottom line: We have a guy that is creative with his defensive scheming and knows his shit in the 3-4 why marginalize him by switching to a 4-3 base?

Easy 6
08-29-2011, 04:51 PM
Because it works & its more versatile than a 4-3?

ModSocks
08-29-2011, 04:51 PM
I agree. We should move to the 4-6-1