New Conference re-alignment thread

[dirk digler]

There's a meeting starting right now. Supposedly, yesterday's meeting wasn't going to even touch on re-alignment. The rumor is that they actually voted to leave the conference yesterday and notified the conference of their exit and are voting to apply to the SEC today. Just a rumor, though.

that is cool. KK's meltdown will be gold today.

[Saul Good]

GabeDeArmond Gabe DeArmond
Big announcement moments ago from #Mizzou: @swissmeats is now the official Bratwurst of Mizzou Athletics
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LMAO

That's a bullshit move. Johnsonville has been loyal to us for years. Kansas City will probably lose the American Royal now.

[Trevo_410]

GabeDeArmond Gabe DeArmond
Big announcement moments ago from #Mizzou: @swissmeats is now the official Bratwurst of Mizzou Athletics
3 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply


LMAO

why isn't this on espn yet?

[mikeyis4dcats.]

They could only be in the states the two conferences are in. They aren't though.

keep trying to force it....you and I both know a sponsored bowl game with ties to a conference and the conference's own tourney are 2 different animals.

[mikeyis4dcats.]

why isn't this on espn yet?

it's on the scroll on The Ocho right now...

[tomahawk kid]

That's a bullshit move. Johnsonville has been loyal to us for years. Kansas City will probably lose the American Royal now.

HyVee brats beat the living s#!t out of both.

[Los Pollos Hermanos]

They could only be in the states the two conferences are in. They aren't though.

I think it's just cities in desirable winter climates get contracts/affiliations with who they can get them with. If they happen to get a hometown team, then they get lucky.

[Saul Good]

keep trying to force it....you and I both know a sponsored bowl game with ties to a conference and the conference's own tourney are 2 different animals.

I'm not trying to force it. I don't think it will stay beyond 2014 when the contract ends, and I wouldn't blame the conference if it doesn't (if there is a conference then which I tend to doubt). It's not a no-brainer, though.

[Saul Good]

I think it's just cities in desirable winter climates get contracts/affiliations with who they can get them with. If they happen to get a hometown team, then they get lucky.

Like the Pinstripe bowl? Beautiful weather in New York in December...

[Saul Good]

Mike DeArmond tweeted that there may be a noon presser.

[ChiTown]

Mike DeArmond tweeted that there may be a noon presser.

I really hope this is true. I think ALL parties directly and indirectly effected by this are ready to move on from this drama.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Like the Pinstripe bowl? Beautiful weather in New York in December...

[Salute/]

[dirk digler]

I really hope this is true. I think ALL parties directly and indirectly effected by this are ready to move on from this drama.

no shit i am kind of tired of it all. Just get it done with already

[mikeyis4dcats.]

Mike DeArmond tweeted that there may be a noon presser.

Proud to announce RC Cola as the official drink of the MU Tigers.

[evenfall]

Proud to announce RC Cola as the official drink of the MU Tigers.

That would rock.

[BigCatDaddy]

Time for MU's 15 minutes of fame to come to end!

[Trevo_410]

wander what kk will do if we announce the good news today...:hmmm:

[eazyb81]

sptwri Mike DeArmond
MU BOC chairman Warren Erdman just told me he will have a session with the media following closed session in about 35 to 40 minutes.

[Los Pollos Hermanos]

Like the Pinstripe bowl? Beautiful weather in New York in December...

I think the Pinstripe Bowl was a terrible idea.

But, the Insight Bowl is in AZ and they're affiliated with the Big 12 and Big 10.

[Saulbadguy]

I really hope this is true. I think ALL parties directly and indirectly effected by this are ready to move on from this drama.

Same - get it over with. I'll be disappointed if MU stays at this point, especially if WVU is a reality.

[eazyb81]

I think the Pinstripe Bowl was a terrible idea.

But, the Insight Bowl is in AZ and they're affiliated with the Big 12 and Big 10.

Weather-wise the Pinstripe Bowl sucks, but if you're going to get fans to go to any cold weather city in late December, it's probably going to be NYC. Christmas time in NYC is really fun.

Don't they have a bowl now in Detroit? Now THAT would be awful.

[kstater]

BTW, the color analysis of pre-press conference coverage is fantastic at goEMAW.com

[WilliamTheIrish]

Weather-wise the Pinstripe Bowl sucks, but if you're going to get fans to go to any cold weather city in late December, it's probably going to be NYC. Christmas time in NYC is really fun.

Don't they have a bowl now in Detroit? Now THAT would be awful.

I dunno... I don't think KSU got 1k to travel to that game. At least from this area. Too expensive. Weather just like home. Having the crappiest D in football (a crown taken with pride by KU) didn't help.

[mikeyis4dcats.]

Weather-wise the Pinstripe Bowl sucks, but if you're going to get fans to go to any cold weather city in late December, it's probably going to be NYC. Christmas time in NYC is really fun.

Don't they have a bowl now in Detroit? Now THAT would be awful.

They had a bowl in Detroit for years, it stopped a few years back unless they started one again. They also have a bowl game in Idaho.

[eazyb81]

KCTV5 is streaming the press conference. There have been a few shots of a nice fanny pack but no one with Mizzou yet.

http://www.kctv5.com/category/215375/kctv5-livestream-mva2

[Mr. Plow]

Seems a bit hypocritical, but whatever.....


http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/rapid-reports/post/15771374


Oct. 20, 2011 3:28 p.m. (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/rapid-reports/post/15771374) - by Steve Walentik - Barnes outspoken on realignment (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/rapid-reports/post/15771374)
Texas coach Rick Barnes on Missouri’s status with the Big 12: “Missouri’s been a good member of this league, but if they don’t want to be here, I don’t want them here. I don’t think anybody does. If they think they can go elsewhere and it’s better for them, let them go. We’re going to be fine because there’s people out there that want to be here.”

[Reerun_KC]

Today is the day?

Excited to see the results!

[eazyb81]

This thread caught AIDS at the worst time.

[Reerun_KC]

Seems a bit hypocritical, but whatever.....


http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/rapid-reports/post/15771374


Oct. 20, 2011 3:28 p.m. (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/rapid-reports/post/15771374) - by Steve Walentik - Barnes outspoken on realignment (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/rapid-reports/post/15771374)
Texas coach Rick Barnes on Missouri’s status with the Big 12: “Missouri’s been a good member of this league, but if they don’t want to be here, I don’t want them here. I don’t think anybody does. If they think they can go elsewhere and it’s better for them, let them go. We’re going to be fine because there’s people out there that want to be here.”

No shit, He just needs to shut his fucking cockholster...

I hate everything fucking Texas and hate being in the same conference with them too...

Fuck those posers.

[Mr. Plow]

This thread caught AIDS at the worst time.


To be honest, I'm surprised that something hasn't leaked yet. The way info has been leaking in the past, I really expected to see something on ESPN that said "MU reportedly votes to leave Big 12, apply to SEC" by now.

[BigCatDaddy]

To be honest, I'm surprised that something hasn't leaked yet. The way info has been leaking in the past, I really expected to see something on ESPN that said "MU reportedly votes to leave Big 12, apply to SEC" by now.

Because very few outside MO and KS gives a rats ass.

[Mr. Plow]

Because very few outside MO and KS gives a rats ass.

True. But MU hasn't been able to keep anything quiet - someone has always leaked info dating back to them flirting with the Big 10 last year.....I just figured I'd see something by now.

[HemiEd]

He makes a good point about the bowl games. The Big XII has contracts with 7 bowls, and only 3 of them are in Big XII states (surprisingly, all in Texas).

We can schedule bowl games outside the Big XII footprint but not a basketball tournament?

Also, the Big XII is pretty much giving up Kansas City as a market if they move the tourney. There will still be alums of KU and KSU, but the casual, unaffiliated fan won't grow up bonding with the conference from their experiences in the Big XII tourney. They'll have to settle for watching football games against Florida, Alabama, Arkansas, Tennessee, Georgia, LSU, Auburn, etc. and basketball games against Kentucky, Florida, Arkansas, and Tennessee.
You have such a consistent slant on things, it is really prettyfunny. Weather has a a lot to do with the location of the bowl games, and Texas, along with it's population, makes the most sense of all the Big 12 locations. St Louis bowl? LOL

Will the casual Kansas City fan not be exposed to Vandy and Kentucky football?

Will the casual Kansas City fan not be exposed to Auburn and Mississippi basketball?

Just a guess, but I would bet the BB fans will be watching games being played by the basketball schools KU and K State.

[Pants]

Because very few outside MO and KS gives a rats ass.

I'm pretty sure the fans of the schools in the conferences care about the changing landscape. I want to know whether MU is staying or leaving.

[Mr. Plow]

I'm pretty sure the fans of the schools in the conferences care about the changing landscape. I want to know whether MU is staying or leaving.

Aaaaaannnnnnddddd.....you're in KS. :p

[mikeyis4dcats.]

KCTV5 is streaming the press conference. There have been a few shots of a nice fanny pack but no one with Mizzou yet.

http://www.kctv5.com/category/215375/kctv5-livestream-mva2

I can't imagine they'd make such a big announcement in such a shitty room.

[BigCatDaddy]

I'm pretty sure the fans of the schools in the conferences care about the changing landscape. I want to know whether MU is staying or leaving.

810 had OU's announcer on a week or two ago and basically said nobody there gives Missouri leaving or staying a second thought (referring to fan base). So you can imagine how much the east coast brass that is ESPN cares.

[Braincase]

Bowl games typically involve two teams from different conferences. The Big XII Basketball tournament is monolithic by nature. Now, the NCAA tourney is a different story, and I fully expect KC to host a portion of the NCAA tournament.

[eazyb81]

810 had OU's announcer on a week or two ago and basically said nobody there gives Missouri leaving or staying a second thought (referring to fan base).

Shocking, OU and UT fans only care about OU and UT.

Stunning insight bro. Keep bringin the heat.

[Bearcat]

You have such a consistent slant on things, it is really prettyfunny. Weather has a a lot to do with the location of the bowl games, and Texas, along with it's population, makes the most sense of all the Big 12 locations. St Louis bowl? LOL

Will the casual Kansas City fan not be exposed to Vandy and Kentucky football?

Will the casual Kansas City fan not be exposed to Auburn and Mississippi basketball?

Just a guess, but I would the BB fans will be watching games being played by the basketball schools KU and K State.

No.

[Saulbadguy]

I can't imagine they'd make such a big announcement in such a shitty room.

Typical hayseed Mizzou.

[BigCatDaddy]

I can't imagine they'd make such a big announcement in such a shitty room.

Not a bad looking blonde in the front row though.

[eazyb81]

I can't imagine they'd make such a big announcement in such a shitty room.

Can't afford a nicer room right now. Remember we are still in the Big 12. :thumb:

[HemiEd]

No.

So Mizzou will only be playing the good teams in their respective sport?

Gotcha

[BigCatDaddy]

Shocking, OU and UT fans only care about OU and UT.

Stunning insight bro. Keep bringin the heat.

I think 46 other states feel the same way.

[Saulbadguy]

GET NAKED

[eazyb81]

I think 46 other states feel the same way.

Is OU planning to undercut Mizzou and start a press conference 15 minutes before ours again, or do they realize they actually are a wallflower now?

[Bearcat]

So Mizzou will only be playing the good teams in their respective sport?

Gotcha

Yes, while the Big 12 will play all of its football and basketball games in Ames.

[ChiefsCountry]

Don't they have a bowl now in Detroit? Now THAT would be awful.

That bowl has been around for 14 years now.

[eazyb81]

KSU guy with t-shirt tucked into his shorts.

:facepalm:

[Saulbadguy]

http://www.whitehouse.gov/live

Presidential press conference.

[Saulbadguy]

http://www.whitehouse.gov/live

Presidential press conference.

[Pitt Gorilla]

KSU guy with t-shirt tucked into his shorts.

:facepalm:That's business casual.

[Saulbadguy]

KSU guy with t-shirt tucked into his shorts.

:facepalm:

Jorts?

[Bambi]

This stream looks like a low budget porno with that chick sittin there.

[Mr. Plow]

http://www.whitehouse.gov/live

Presidential press conference.


:)

[kstater]

http://www.whitehouse.gov/live

Presidential press conference.

How DARE he steal Mizzou's thunder and undercut their own press conference.

[Saulbadguy]

Sounds like nothing is happening.

[Bambi]

Sounds like nothing is happening.

"No announcement regarding re-alignment expected."

Fascinating

[Saulbadguy]

All the women are hot. All the men look like creepsters.

The media is quite odd.

[Saulbadguy]

All the women are hot. All the men look like creepsters.

The media is quite odd.

[Pants]

810 had OU's announcer on a week or two ago and basically said nobody there gives Missouri leaving or staying a second thought (referring to fan base). So you can imagine how much the east coast brass that is ESPN cares.

It's not about Missouri, it's about the conferences, dog. ESPN scrawled the shit out of the B12 and BIG10 and the SEC rumors (that includes the MU to BIG10 rumors).

[BigCatDaddy]

It's not about Missouri, it's about the conferences, dog. ESPN scrawled the shit out of the B12 and BIG10 and the SEC rumors (that includes the MU to BIG10 rumors).


LOL, they scrawl when Big Papi takes a dump.

I only give a shit because I live close to KC and it will effect me in that fassion. If I lived in Oklahoma or somewhere else I doubt I would read an article on this subject.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Has anything happened....just tuned in to see the hot blonde in front.

[Pants]

LOL, they scrawl when Big Papi takes a dump.

I only give a shit because I live close to KC and it will effect me in that fassion. If I lived in Oklahoma or somewhere else I doubt I would read an article on this subject.

Then don't say stuff like:

So you can imagine how much the east coast brass that is ESPN cares.

[evenfall]

Has anything happened....just tuned in to see the hot blonde in front.

No one knows. They never said an announcement would be today, people just assumed that I think.

[evenfall]

LOL, they scrawl when Big Papi takes a dump.

I only give a shit because I live close to KC and it will effect me in that fassion. If I lived in Oklahoma or somewhere else I doubt I would read an article on this subject.

Yeah, because this doesn't affect the landscape of pretty much every conference...

[BigCatDaddy]

Then don't say stuff like:

It's just filler. They don't give a shit.

[|Zach|]

LOL, they scrawl when Big Papi takes a dump.

I only give a shit because I live close to KC and it will effect me in that fassion. If I lived in Oklahoma or somewhere else I doubt I would read an article on this subject.

No worries. It is very fassionable to go out of your way to hate on Missouri. You are not alone.

[BigCatDaddy]

Yeah, because this doesn't affect the landscape of pretty much every conference...

Is the SEC excited to get MU? Is anyone outside of Kansas pissed MU is leaving? A few cared at first when Nebraska left and nobody gave a rats ass the Colorado left. Someone will step in and fill there spot without missing a beat. They aren't the first team to jump conferences and won't be the last.

[ChiefsCountry]

I bet this is the blonde chick you guys are talking about.
http://www.martinadelbonta.com/

[BigCatDaddy]

No worries. It is very fassionable to go out of your way to hate on Missouri. You are not alone.

I am a little upset at what it does to the landscape of KC, but as far as the Big 12 conference goes I could care les as in the long run it doesn't make much difference.

[BigCatDaddy]

I bet this is the blonde chick you guys are talking about.
http://www.martinadelbonta.com/

Sure is. I'm sure most of us have had better though.

[|Zach|]

I am a little upset and what it does to the landscape of KC, but as far as the Big 12 conference goes I could care less.

You should fassion together some kind of sign that says this. It would be easier than having to repeat yourself.

[Los Pollos Hermanos]

I'm going on the record of saying that I don't want MIZZOU to leave the Big 12. That being said, I'm not going to be butthurt when/if they leave.

But Nebraska.... those cornholers can go fuck themselves. Tom Osborne can die of AIDS.

[Trevo_410]

this dude just said all the wvu fans must all be related on the live stream... ROFL

[dirk digler]

Is the SEC excited to get MU? Is anyone outside of Kansas pissed MU is leaving? A few cared at first when Nebraska left and nobody gave a rats ass the Colorado left. Someone will step in and fill there spot without missing a beat. They aren't the first team to jump conferences and won't be the last.

I agree so I don't understand why certain fans are all upset about this?

MU will do what is best for MU just like Texas and OU tried to do.

[eazyb81]

Mike Dearmond tweet:

"Just picked up 25 twitter followers from West Virginia...they must all be related"

So I guess that makes three states that care. WHOO HOOO!!!

[kstater]

One of the DeArmond's just said WVU fans are inbreds. Seemingly ignoring half of MU's fanbase.

[Los Pollos Hermanos]

I bet this is the blonde chick you guys are talking about.
http://www.martinadelbonta.com/

She's too fat. /Omaha

[Trevo_410]

its starting now
http://www.komu.com/streaming-newscast/

[Trevo_410]

its starting now
http://www.komu.com/streaming-newscast/

[eazyb81]

Big Mizzou banner now, looks like we're about ready to roll.

[BigCatDaddy]

I agree so I don't understand why certain fans are all upset about this?

MU will do what is best for MU just like Texas and OU tried to do.

Kansas is going to get their diggs in because they are rivals. Personally I think it's going to be a huge mistake in the long run.

[BigCatDaddy]

Mike Dearmond tweet:

"Just picked up 25 twitter followers from West Virginia...they must all be related"

So I guess that makes three states that care. WHOO HOOO!!!


Yep. .0000134% of the population of WV now care :)

[|Zach|]

Press conferences are weird and quirky. They are strange to photograph.

[evenfall]

You should fassion together some kind of sign that says this. It would be easier than having to repeat yourself.

If there were such a thing as being fassionably dumb, he would have made a grand entrance.

[|Zach|]

If there were such a thing as being fassionably dumb, he would have made a grand entrance.

Look he doesn't care. He and many others will tell you all about how much they don't care over and over if you just sit and listen.

[|Zach|]

I just *had* to make that normal meeting joke.

[eazyb81]

I just *had* to make that normal meeting joke.

Erdman is such a comedian.

[Pants]

What's fassion? Is that like fission except for dumb energy instead of nuclear?

[Saulbadguy]

Grats.

[eazyb81]

Alden desperately trying to hold back a smile.

[ChiefsCountry]

Only people in Missouri care about them going to the SEC ROFL
http://www.ncaabbs.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=637

[|Zach|]

What's fassion? Is that like fission for "dumb"?

I believe a fassion is an old wooden ship.

[|Zach|]

Ha, throwing red meat to Kansas City.

And trying to keep KU on the schedule.

Directive given to hold an invitational basketball tournament in KC hosted by MU. As well as a football game at Arrowhead with a regional rival.

[dirk digler]

So no news on moving to the SEC = dumb

[Fish]

Bunch of grandstanding... Doesn't look like they're really releasing any info other than "We still love KC, and like playing games here."

Not answering shit about what conference that would be in....

[Mr. Plow]

I can't watch....can someone fill me in?

[Saulbadguy]

BITB is licking his chops.

[|Zach|]

Clearly, Mizzou would not care about having a yearly bball tourney in KC and football game at Arrowhead if they were staying in the Big12.

[Pitt Gorilla]

MU is gone. (I mean, it doesn't take much to read between these lines)

[WilliamTheIrish]

That's a brilliant move by MU.

Put it back on KU. And by extension, the Big 12.
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[patteeu]

Clearly, Mizzou would not care about having a yearly bball tourney in KC and football game at Arrowhead if they were staying in the Big12.

Right. It's not likely that the regional opponent they hope to face off against in Kansas City is Illinois.

[DJ's left nut]

Deuces.

[ChiefsCountry]

If I was Mizzou I could call Nebraska and get that game in Arrowhead each year.

[evenfall]

Clearly, Mizzou would not care about having a yearly bball tourney in KC and football game at Arrowhead if they were staying in the Big12.

Sounds like the speculated timeline is correct, that the vote would be held today, and the formal invitation was predicted to be early next week, IIRC

So they let the "it's up to KU whether the rivalry ends" circulate in the local media for several days, and announce when the formalities are concluded.

[WilliamTheIrish]

They are definitely gone. And they did it really well.

I hope Currie and Schultz are ready to step into the game since KU says they don't want it. Would be awesome.
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[Saulbadguy]

If I was Mizzou I could call Nebraska and get that game in Arrowhead each year.

Nebraska would never do that.

[|Zach|]

If I was Mizzou I could call Nebraska and get that game in Arrowhead each year.

That would be fun. I doubt Nebraska does that though.

I know this is posturing but if these games were to happen it would be fun.

[Bearcat]

So, they had a press conference to talk about what they want to do if they go to the SEC... after "the deal was done" with another conference?

Seems like the smart thing to do. :spock:

[Saulbadguy]

Typical slaver.

ew2x4 ew
Deaton flipflops between "Missouri" and "Missouruh", and then brings out the irregardless. Winning.

[Mr. Plow]

Are they talking about trying to get SEC Fball Championship game &/or SEC BBall Tournament to KC?

[ferrarispider95]

Blahblahblah. Just say it, we are going to the SEC, we would like to eat our keep and have it to. Unfortunately, KU is not going to play a rivalry game and I don't see any one in the big 12 playing in a Missouri Invitation Basketball Tournament.

Cya. Would be nice if they would just go ahead and announce they are leaving instead of dragging this out, so we can look for a replacement.

Louisville would be an upgrade.

[eazyb81]

They're not announcing they are leaving Big 12 in KC. Good call, emotions too high right now.

[ferrarispider95]

Blahblahblah. Just say it, we are going to the SEC, we would like to eat our keep and have it to. Unfortunately, KU is not going to play a rivalry game and I don't see any one in the big 12 playing in a Missouri Invitation Basketball Tournament.

Cya. Would be nice if they would just go ahead and announce they are leaving instead of dragging this out, so we can look for a replacement.

Louisville would be an upgrade.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Seriously, this is just the right way to do it. I think MU is shining today.
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[|Zach|]

Are they talking about trying to get SEC Fball Championship game &/or SEC BBall Tournament to KC?

Never happen.

Ever.

[|Zach|]

So, they had a press conference to talk about what they want to do if they go to the SEC... after "the deal was done" with another conference?

Seems like the smart thing to do. :spock:

Is that how you read this situation?

[eazyb81]

They are definitely gone. And they did it really well.

I hope Currie and Schultz are ready to step into the game since KU says they don't want it. Would be awesome.
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Agree, that would be cool.

[eazyb81]

Erdman is pretty good. Deaton appears like a weak egghead though.

[Fish]

Really sounds like they're gone..

[Mr. Plow]

Never happen.

Ever.

That's why I was asking. No way the SEC anything comes to KC.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Man, people are dumb. It was clear we were gone as soon as Deaton was given the authority.

[evenfall]

Completely agree. If KU is too butthurt to play the football game, let's play K-State. Would be tons of fun, and a better opponent most years too.

[Fish]

Whatever they decide, it will go into effect next year....

Is that what I just heard?

[DJ's left nut]

This could not be more obvious. I've gotta give MU credit here, this was masterfully done by a generally ham-fisted institution.

[WilliamTheIrish]

I thought Deaton even showed well. Clearly, it's not his element, but he did well.
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[kstater]

So Mizzou is basically proposing the Baylor estroball coaches' hypothetical right? They want a divorce and still want to sleep together.

[eazyb81]

Mizzou anticipates being in a conference for next year if they leave. That's a good sign.

[Bearcat]

Is that how you read this situation?

It's how I'm reading the thread. It doesn't really matter what the official reason was for the press conference, speculating like that is retarded from their point of view... let the fans do that. I'm sure they're supremely confident the deal is done, and I'm sure there's a lot we haven't heard about to make the final votes seem like a formality, but instead of grandstanding, they could just wait 5 more days or whatever until it's actually official.

[ChiefsCountry]

Mizzou is good as gone. Board did a pretty good PR job today in KC. Don't announce you are leaving the Big 12 in KC. Announce a basketball tournament and football game for KC. Throw that in KU's court. It would be better to announce you are leaving for the SEC in Columbia.

[dirk digler]

They're not announcing they are leaving Big 12 in KC. Good call, emotions too high right now.

Fair point.

[Saul Good]

Because very few outside MO and KS gives a rats ass.

Of course the Big XII schools don't care. Neither do the Big East schools who are looking to take Mizzou's spot. Neither do the SEC schools who would be accepting a new member. Neither do the PAC schools who are looking to poach Big XII schools if they get desperate...

[|Zach|]

It's how I'm reading the thread. It doesn't really matter what the official reason was for the press conference, speculating like that is retarded from their point of view... let the fans do that. I'm sure they're supremely confident the deal is done, and I'm sure there's a lot we haven't heard about to make the final votes seem like a formality, but instead of grandstanding, they could just wait 5 more days or whatever until it's actually official.

This was about Kansas City today.

[Bambi]

They are definitely gone. And they did it really well.

I hope Currie and Schultz are ready to step into the game since KU says they don't want it. Would be awesome.
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I look forward to building the rivalry with you guys.

Lets do it.

[|Zach|]

This could not be more obvious. I've gotta give MU credit here, this was masterfully done by a generally ham-fisted institution.

Yea, this is one of the few times I felt like they played their hand really well

[Saulbadguy]

chuckle.

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Questioning my line of work on a day the president of U.S. ends a war, I'm watching a school board meeting regarding its 3-3 football team.

[Saul Good]

So Mizzou will only be playing the good teams in their respective sport?

Gotcha

There aren't bad teams in SEC football. Shit, Kentucky has been to something like 5 or 6 straight bowl games. Vanderbilt is the worst team in the SEC, and they aren't awful.

There is only one basketball school in the Big XII, and that's Kansas. Kentucky basketball trumps Kansas any day (7 national championships compared to 2). Then you've got Florida with 2 recent titles whereas the entire Big XII has 1 in the last 20 years.

[Reerun_KC]

Props to MU, the did the right thing.

As a KU fan, I am extremely jealous. SEC is great conference and has a solid future, the Big 12 is still the Titanic leaving port on its maiden voyage...

Everything is going to be okay on this trip...

[HemiEd]

Yes, while the Big 12 will play all of its football and basketball games in Ames.

I guessed you totally missed the point.

[WilliamTheIrish]

I thought Deaton even showed well. Clearly, it's not his element, but he did well.
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[Bearcat]

This was about Kansas City today.

Meh, everyone else seems to be applauding it, so I guess I'll have to catch an article or replay, and not just the comments from here. Still don't get the point of doing it today, but whatever.

[Mr. Plow]

There is only one basketball school in the Big XII, and that's Kansas. Kentucky basketball trumps Kansas any day (7 national championships compared to 2). Then you've got Florida with 2 recent titles whereas the entire Big XII has 1 in the last 20 years.


Basketball doesn't matter. It's secondary.

[|Zach|]

If Deaton's anticipated timeline of moving for the coming year is true that puts the B12 in a bit of a bind.

BYU might be the only Big 12 expansion candidate who could replace Missouri in 2012. BE schools locked in for 27 months.

[Bearcat]

I guessed you totally missed the point.

Probably... my only intent was to mock Saul Good. ;)

[ferrarispider95]

BYU, Louisville, or WVU.

Sounds like Mizzou doesnt plan to be in the big 12 next year, so we could get back to 10 immediately with BYU.

My preference would be Louisville, but not being about to join for 2 years makes BYU a better choice.

[ferrarispider95]

BYU, Louisville, or WVU.

Sounds like Mizzou doesnt plan to be in the big 12 next year, so we could get back to 10 immediately with BYU.

My preference would be Louisville, but not being about to join for 2 years makes BYU a better choice.

[Pants]

There aren't bad teams in SEC football. Shit, Kentucky has been to something like 5 or 6 straight bowl games. Vanderbilt is the worst team in the SEC, and they aren't awful.

There is only one basketball school in the Big XII, and that's Kansas. Kentucky basketball trumps Kansas any day (7 national championships compared to 2). Then you've got Florida with 2 recent titles whereas the entire Big XII has 1 in the last 20 years.

I agree that UK bball trumps KU bball (thanks to a KU grad) in terms of overall success. But I'm just wondering which NCAA championship you're not counting for KU? 1988?

Also, are you saying there were no basketball champions before 1939?

[Bambi]

I agree that UK bball trumps KU bball (thanks to a KU grad) in terms of overall success. But I'm just wondering which NCAA championship you're not counting for KU, 1988?

Also, are you saying there were no basketball champions before 1939?

40 wins in 4 years duh

[Saul Good]

Basketball doesn't matter. It's secondary.

It's secondary, but it matters to basketball fans. Mizzou doesn't lose anything even in basketball by moving to the SEC. That's the funniest part. The beaks don't even get to crow about that. There are better teams in the SEC than in the Big XII, and those schools couldn't give a shit about basketball.

[Saul Good]

I agree that UK bball trumps KU bball (thanks to a KU grad) in terms of overall success. But I'm just wondering which NCAA championship you're not counting for KU? 1988?

Also, are you saying there were no basketball champions before 1939?

They won national championships in 1988 and 2008. Other than that, they never won anything.

[Pants]

They won national championships in 1988 and 2008. Other than that, they never won anything.

1952?

[Bambi]

They won national championships in 1988 and 2008. Other than that, they never won anything.

So Kentucky has 5 National Championships, not 8...correct?

[Mr. Plow]

It's secondary, but it matters to basketball fans. Mizzou doesn't lose anything even in basketball by moving to the SEC. That's the funniest part. The beaks don't even get to crow about that. There are better teams in the SEC than in the Big XII, and those schools couldn't give a shit about basketball.


Yes, KU is the only basketball school in the Big 12 and the SEC is better in basketball even though nobody pays any attention to it. Spot on analysis.

[Saul Good]

1952?

The NCAA tournament was a secondary tournament back then, similar to what the NIT is now. That's not a direct comparison because it had a little more prestige, but it wasn't the national championship.

[Mr. Plow]

They won national championships in 1988 and 2008. Other than that, they never won anything.


ROFL

Awesome.

[Saul Good]

Yes, KU is the only basketball school in the Big 12 and the SEC is better in basketball even though nobody pays any attention to it. Spot on analysis.

Who is better in the Big XII? Arkansas has won a NC and played in another in the last 20 years. Kentucky has won 2 since then, played in another, and been in the Final Four 5 times in that span. Florida has won 2 national championships since then.

Who in the Big XII can compete with that? Kansas would be the second best program in the SEC. Who else in the Big XII even holds a candle to Florida?

[eazyb81]

Hope we issue a press release on Sunday after the OSU game.

[Bambi]

The NCAA tournament was a secondary tournament back then, similar to what the NIT is now. That's not a direct comparison because it had a little more prestige, but it wasn't the national championship.

So Kentucky has 3 National Championships?

How does this work? When did the NCAA Tournament get real?

[Priest31kc]

bobfescoe Bob Fescoe
Being told #mizzou waiting on a counter offer from big 12. These talks r intense a Lotta cash at stake


haha

[Pants]

The NCAA tournament was a secondary tournament back then, similar to what the NIT is now. That's not a direct comparison because it had a little more prestige, but it wasn't the national championship.

Oh yeah, the NCAA tournament was for conference and regional champions while the NIT was for 6 teams invited by a committee. I see your point. Before the tournaments, there were obviously no champions. Good call, man.

[Bambi]

Oh yeah, the NCAA tournament was for conference and regional champions while the NIT was for 6 teams invited by a committee. I see your point. Before the tournaments, there were obviously no champions. Good call, man.

CCNY won the NIT in 1950.

They are the Champions.

[bobbything]

bobfescoe Bob Fescoe
Being told #mizzou waiting on a counter offer from big 12. These talks r intense a Lotta cash at stake


haha
MU is the Brett Favre of collegiate athletics right now.

[evenfall]

bobfescoe Bob Fescoe
Being told #mizzou waiting on a counter offer from big 12. These talks r intense a Lotta cash at stake


haha

What a moron.

[Saul Good]

Oh yeah, the NCAA tournament was for conference and regional champions while the NIT was for 6 teams invited by a committee. I see your point. Before the tournaments, there were obviously no champions. Good call, man.

If you want to consider the NCAA tourney the national championship from 60 years ago, go for it. Its not true, but it's not important enough to bother disputing. Congrats on maybe having the best group of white-only set-shooters six decades ago.

[bobbything]

What a moron.
A counter offer?? Is MU really that important?

[Pants]

If you want to consider the NCAA tourney the national championship from 60 years ago, go for it. Its not true, but it's not important enough to bother disputing. Congrats on maybe having the best group of white-only set-shooters six decades ago.

Tradition is tradition. Football ain't the same as it was 60 years ago, either.

You're right, though, this argument is irrelevant.

[Jerm]

So if the SEC is cold blooded, do they extend the offer somewhere between now and Monday/Tuesday on the eve of the A&M/Mizzou game next week?

Makes sense...

[Jerm]

Can't wait to hear Keitzman's head explode lol...

[HemiEd]

There aren't bad teams in SEC football. Shit, Kentucky has been to something like 5 or 6 straight bowl games. Vanderbilt is the worst team in the SEC, and they aren't awful.

There is only one basketball school in the Big XII, and that's Kansas. Kentucky basketball trumps Kansas any day (7 national championships compared to 2). Then you've got Florida with 2 recent titles whereas the entire Big XII has 1 in the last 20 years.

KU has three, but who is counting, right? Especially when the facts hurt your point. In the last 50 years Kentucky has won 3 and KU 2. In the last 25 it is 2 and 2.

My point was, you keep referring to the strong teams in the SEC and the weak ones in the "big 9," as you have through out this thread.

Honestly, I am really glad Mizzou is going, and look forward to the results. They did do a good job today, no doubt about that.

[Bearcat]

If you want to consider the NCAA tourney the national championship from 60 years ago, go for it. Its not true, but it's not important enough to bother disputing. Congrats on maybe having the best group of white-only set-shooters six decades ago.

So, it's 8 (7, actually) for UK and not 3, but 2 for KU and not 3...
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[eazyb81]

Can't wait to hear Keitzman's head explode lol...

He shouldn't be mad. His (supposed) beef was the KC economy, and Mizzou showed they care for both the university and KC so they are going to have a basketball tournament and football game. Hopefully KU agrees to play to continue the rivalry and help KC, but if not Mizzou will join up with other local teams.

It was a pretty brilliant strategy to be honest.

[Bambi]

KU has three, but who is counting, right? Especially when the facts hurt your point. In the last 50 years Kentucky has won 3 and KU 2. In the last 25 it is 2 and 2.

My point was, you keep referring to the strong teams in the SEC and the weak ones in the "big 9," as you have through out this thread.

Honestly, I am really glad Mizzou is going, and look forward to the results. They did do a good job today, no doubt about that.

When MU fans twist years to fit their argument I always end up laughing because no matter what years you choose for MU Athletics it always ends the same.

[HemiEd]

They won national championships in 1988 and 2008. Other than that, they never won anything.

This fits your entire posting mantra in this thread.

You don't count the 1952 for KU, but you count the 4 from 1948 to 1958 for UK.

Excellent.

[Saul Good]

He shouldn't be mad. His (supposed) beef was the KC economy, and Mizzou showed they care for both the university and KC so they are going to have a basketball tournament and football game. Hopefully KU agrees to play to continue the rivalry and help KC, but if not Mizzou will join up with other local teams.

It was a pretty brilliant strategy to be honest.

I expect Kietzman to have Mizzou's back and call on KU and K-State to follow Missouri's lead and do what's best for Kansas City. He should propose a Big XII SEC showdown preseason tourney in the Sprint Center with Kansas, Kansas State, Missouri, and Kentucky. Think that would draw fans?

[|Zach|]

We love you KC!

http://zacharycobb.com/index.php/2011/10/21/the-mizzou-press-conference-in-one-picture/

http://zacharycobb.com/wp-content/uploads/finalsay-640x656.jpg

[Bambi]

I expect Kietzman to have Mizzou's back and call on KU and K-State to follow Missouri's lead and do what's best for Kansas City. He should propose a Big XII SEC showdown preseason tourney in the Sprint Center with Kansas, Kansas State, Missouri, and Kentucky. Think that would draw fans?

This is actually a pretty cool idea.

However KU is tied up playing in the Champions Classic w/ Kentucky for the next few years.

But by 2014 maybe they can fit it in.

[Saul Good]

This fits your entire posting mantra in this thread.

You don't count the 1952 for KU, but you count the 4 from 1948 to 1958 for UK.

Excellent.

Then count them. I don't really give a shit. In the last 20 years, Kentucky has won 2, and KU has won 1. In the modern era of college basketball, Kentucky has won 3, and KU has won 2. In the history of the NCAA tournament, Kentucky has won 7, and KU has won 3.

Define it however you want. I'm not saying that KU isn't one of the 5 or 6 best programs in NCAA basketball history. The discussion was about the rest of the conference. Outside of KU, no Big XII team has really mattered in decades.

[dirk digler]

I expect Kietzman to have Mizzou's back and call on KU and K-State to follow Missouri's lead and do what's best for Kansas City. He should propose a Big XII SEC showdown preseason tourney in the Sprint Center with Kansas, Kansas State, Missouri, and Kentucky. Think that would draw fans?

LMAO yeah right

[eazyb81]

This is actually a pretty cool idea.

However KU is tied up playing in the Champions Classic w/ Kentucky for the next few years.

But by 2014 maybe they can fit it in.

Good deal, Big 12 has a contract with Sprint Center through 2014 that they aren't going to break.

[Saul Good]

This is actually a pretty cool idea.

However KU is tied up playing in the Champions Classic w/ Kentucky for the next few years.

But by 2014 maybe they can fit it in.

I think the Big XII tourney is under contract with the Sprint Center until 2014 anyway.

[Pants]

This is actually a pretty cool idea.

However KU is tied up playing in the Champions Classic w/ Kentucky for the next few years.

But by 2014 maybe they can fit it in.

I hope they keep the Arrowhead game, though. I don't see a reason not to play MU at Arrowhead if both schools stand to make money as a result.

[Saul Good]

LMAO yeah right

You're acting like Kietzman is just some petty, jealous asshole. He's repeatedly told us that this isn't about jealousy. It's about what's best for Kansas City. In fact, he went so far as to say that he felt sorry for the University of Missouri. I'm sure he'll put his money where his mouth is.

[Saul Good]

I hope they keep the Arrowhead game, though. I don't see a reason not to play MU at Arrowhead if both schools stand to make money as a result.

If anything other than bruised labias come into play, they will. I've heard over and over that this is a great rivalry that MU should work to preserve. If KU won't play us in the non-con, then it really wasn't a rivalry. It was just a game that they played because it was on the schedule.

[Bambi]

I hope they keep the Arrowhead game, though. I don't see a reason not to play MU at Arrowhead if both schools stand to make money as a result.

The football game to me is a tossup.

Biggest reason is the way college football has devolved into pretty much just being a showcase for NFL players anyway these days. Are we going to have any close games this year on a big stage??

CFB is a great gameday atmosphere with the tailgating, girls, and parties.

Basketball is a much more grind of a sport night in and night out. Much more complex when it comes to scheduling.

Plus the money will be too big for either school to pass up with the annual event.

[Bearcat]

If KU won't play us in the non-con, then it really wasn't a rivalry. It was just a game that they played because it was on the schedule.

Oh, FFS... :facepalm:

[dirk digler]

You're acting like Kietzman is just some petty, jealous asshole. He's repeatedly told us that this isn't about jealousy. It's about what's best for Kansas City. In fact, he went so far as to say that he felt sorry for the University of Missouri. I'm sure he'll put his money where his mouth is.

lol because he is a petty jealous asshole. On 810's home page it says MU hasn't decided to go to the SEC... I don't know it seems to me they have

[Mr. Plow]

I'd like to note that post #6168 has started the most recent pissing match between KU/MU fans.

[Saul Good]

The football game to me is a tossup.

Biggest reason is the way college football has devolved into pretty much just being a showcase for NFL players anyway these days. Are we going to have any close games this year on a big stage??

CFB is a great gameday atmosphere with the tailgating, girls, and parties.

Basketball is a much more grind of a sport night in and night out. Much more complex when it comes to scheduling.

Plus the money will be too big for either school to pass up with the annual event.

Didn't LSU and Oregon play right off the bat?

Mizzou played Arizona State.

Kansas State played Miami.

Oklahoma played Florida State.

[HemiEd]

Then count them. I don't really give a shit. In the last 20 years, Kentucky has won 2, and KU has won 1. In the modern era of college basketball, Kentucky has won 3, and KU has won 2. In the history of the NCAA tournament, Kentucky has won 7, and KU has won 3.

Define it however you want. I'm not saying that KU isn't one of the 5 or 6 best programs in NCAA basketball history. The discussion was about the rest of the conference. Outside of KU, no Big XII team has really mattered in decades.

Agreed, no team has actually won it all in (2) decades, but IMO they have mattered. I know 1988 doesn't fit into your "modern era" but OU had a pretty nice run that year. Texas has had several, OSU and others have had the teams to do it.

Do you think Florida will continue with the pattern they set of two championships? They missed the tournament 2 years in a row, then lost first round. But there is hope for them, the lost to Butler last year. :D

But then again, I am not sure why we are even discussing this. The SEC doesn't give a crap about College BB. Just ask Rick Pitino, Billy Donovan, Kevin Stallings, Mike Anderson etc.

[KCUnited]

Has Self or anyone commented on how this might affect the KU/UMKC noncon games in the future? Like to try to catch them on a down year.

ROOS!

[evenfall]

AIDS resumed

[dirk digler]

KK: Deaton has cold feet

[Frazod]

AIDS resumed

Resumed? It never stopped. :shake:

[Saul Good]

Agreed, no team has actually won it all in (2) decades, but IMO they have mattered. I know 1988 doesn't fit into your "modern era" but OU had a pretty nice run that year. Texas has had several, OSU and others have had the teams to do it.

Do you think Florida will continue with the pattern they set of two championships? They missed the tournament 2 years in a row, then lost first round. But there is hope for them, the lost to Butler last year. :D

But then again, I am not sure why we are even discussing this. The SEC doesn't give a crap about College BB. Just ask Rick Pitino, Billy Donovan, Kevin Stallings, Mike Anderson etc.

1988 absolutely fits in the modern era. A couple of teams have had made nice runs. There have been a couple of Final Fours and several Elite Eights scattered about, but none of the programs really "matter".

[Saul Good]

KK: Deaton has cold feet

Kietzman has sources!!!

[evenfall]

KK: Deaton has cold feet

ROFL

[Saul Good]

Kietzman saying that Hoenig didn't want to work with Mizzou, so he's leaving to be the #2 at the FDIC.

[bobbything]

If anything other than bruised labias come into play, they will. I've heard over and over that this is a great rivalry that MU should work to preserve. If KU won't play us in the non-con, then it really wasn't a rivalry. It was just a game that they played because it was on the schedule.
If KU were to bend over keep playing MU, it would basically turn into the MU/Illinois game. :yawn

There is no incentive for KU to agree to play MU, in Missouri, if MU were to go to the SEC. In football, KU can make that money up in another game. In basketball, it doesn't benefit KU at all financially; any more than scheduling some low-level D1 school. So, that leaves the rivalry; which is built on ego and spite. Both schools are at fault here. And as far as I'm concerned, it shows how strong the hatred is for one another.

The hate is stronger than the rivalry. That says a lot.

[tomahawk kid]

Kietzman saying that Hoenig didn't want to work with Mizzou, so he's leaving to be the #2 at the FDIC.

So - he had "sources" saying Hoenig was the guy and now Hoenig took an appointment from the White House.

SO - OBVIOUSLY, there's turmoil within the BOC.

It couldn't be something more obvious - like he was wrong about Hoenig being the President in waiting for the MU system.

[Pitt Gorilla]

How can KK possibly misread a press conference so badly? Deaton doesn't have a decision; the decision has been made.

[dirk digler]

now KK is trying to put a guilt trip on Deaton.

so yeah he is an asshole

[beer bacon]

If KU were to bend over keep playing MU, it would basically turn into the MU/Illinois game. :yawn

There is no incentive for KU to agree to play MU, in Missouri, if MU were to go to the SEC. In football, KU can make that money up in another game. In basketball, it doesn't benefit KU at all financially; any more than scheduling some low-level D1 school. So, that leaves the rivalry; which is built on ego and spite. Both schools are at fault here. And as far as I'm concerned, it shows how strong the hatred is for one another.

The hate is stronger than the rivalry. That says a lot.

No incentive except the 100+ year old rivalry. Right?

If KU refuses to play us, we could pile up some wins due to forfeit.

[Saul Good]

If KU were to bend over keep playing MU, it would basically turn into the MU/Illinois game. :yawn

There is no incentive for KU to agree to play MU, in Missouri, if MU were to go to the SEC. In football, KU can make that money up in another game.

The fuck? What game is KU going to schedule that makes as much money as the Border War at Arrowhead?

As far as Illinois goes, MU/Illinois don't have a 100+ year history. Champaign is 200 miles from the nearest big city in Missouri. Missourians never burned Champaign to the ground. That is a piss-poor comparison.

[Saul Good]

I appreciate Kietzman, a K-State fan living in Kansas, anointing himself as the voice of Mizzou fans in Kansas City.

He's now saying that Mizzou is in danger of losing Lee's Summit kids to Kansas because of this move. Lee's Summit is 90% black and gold. I'm pretty sure KU football isn't going to poach our targets out of Lee's fucking Summit.

[Saul Good]

I appreciate Kietzman, a K-State fan living in Kansas, anointing himself as the voice of Mizzou fans in Kansas City.

He's now saying that Mizzou is in danger of losing Lee's Summit kids to Kansas because of this move. Lee's Summit is 90% black and gold. I'm pretty sure KU football isn't going to poach our targets out of Lee's fucking Summit.

[Pitt Gorilla]

We're going to lose Lee's Summit Mizzou fans to Kansas. /KK

[Reerun_KC]

so when is the date that you guys make it official?

[tomahawk kid]

How can KK possibly misread a press conference so badly? Deaton doesn't have a decision; the decision has been made.

Correct.

Deaton doesn't get the authority unless the decision has been made.

If the BOC did that, it could (theoretically) breach their fiduciary to the University.

KK is high comedy these days.

[evenfall]

More hysterical and desperate than ever.

I always have to turn KK off at the 30 minute mark, its just too much.

He is like Howard Stern, people just tune in to hear what crazy thing he will say next.

[bobbything]

That is a piss-poor comparison.
No it's not, it's a perfect comparison. The "rivalry" such as it would become, would be relegated to one game per year. Yippie.

It wouldn't be the same at all. The fact that KU and MU are in the same conference makes the rivalry that much stronger. Relegating it to one game per year would significantly diminish it. The history of the rivalry isn't strong enough to maintain the day-in and day-out hatred these schools have for one another when playing in-conference.

[tomahawk kid]

I appreciate Kietzman, a K-State fan living in Kansas, anointing himself as the voice of Mizzou fans in Kansas City.

He's now saying that Mizzou is in danger of losing Lee's Summit kids to Kansas because of this move. Lee's Summit is 90% black and gold. I'm pretty sure KU football isn't going to poach our targets out of Lee's ****ing Summit.

Well the "They're DESTROYING KC economically" arguement is gone.

Gotta have something to fill the air time.

[beer bacon]

No it's not, it's a perfect comparison. The "rivalry" such as it would become, would be relegated to one game per year. Yippie.

It wouldn't be the same at all. The fact that KU and MU are in the same conference makes the rivalry that much stronger. Relegating it to one game per year would significantly diminish it. The history of the rivalry isn't strong enough to maintain the day-in and day-out hatred these schools have for one another when playing in-conference.

Would it diminish the rivalry as much as KU refusing to take part in it?

[tomahawk kid]

so when is the date that you guys make it official?

My guess would be early next week via a press release.

[beer bacon]

Next week is SEC week then MU and A&M play on Saturday.

[beer bacon]

I appreciate Kietzman, a K-State fan living in Kansas, anointing himself as the voice of Mizzou fans in Kansas City.

He's now saying that Mizzou is in danger of losing Lee's Summit kids to Kansas because of this move. Lee's Summit is 90% black and gold. I'm pretty sure KU football isn't going to poach our targets out of Lee's ****ing Summit.

Yeah, if he is so concerned about KC maybe he should move there and take some responsibility for its welfare.

[bobbything]

Would it diminish the rivalry as much as KU refusing to take part in it?
Would you continue to play KU in the state of Kansas if they bolted to the Pac 12?

[BigCatDaddy]

Caller - MU is already middle to upper level of the SEC :facepalm:

[Saul Good]

No it's not, it's a perfect comparison. The "rivalry" such as it would become, would be relegated to one game per year. Yippie.

It wouldn't be the same at all. The fact that KU and MU are in the same conference makes the rivalry that much stronger. Relegating it to one game per year would significantly diminish it. The history of the rivalry isn't strong enough to maintain the day-in and day-out hatred these schools have for one another when playing in-conference.

How many football games do KU and MU play against each other per year now?

[|Zach|]

I appreciate Kietzman, a K-State fan living in Kansas, anointing himself as the voice of Mizzou fans in Kansas City.

He's now saying that Mizzou is in danger of losing Lee's Summit kids to Kansas because of this move. Lee's Summit is 90% black and gold. I'm pretty sure KU football isn't going to poach our targets out of Lee's ****ing Summit.

Literally.

http://coachesaid.co/Content/Mascots/mo-molshs-letter-150.png

[Pants]

Would you continue to play KU in the state of Kansas if they bolted to the Pac 12?

Jesus Christ, dude. We're talking about Arrowhead here, not Columbia. The football game should stay if it benefits both schools financially. I would say the same thing about the basketball game, but I just don't think KU has anything to gain by scheduling MU in the Sprint center and taking another non-con game out.

[DeezNutz]

Deuces.

Dew says, indeed.

[bobbything]

How many football games do KU and MU play against each other per year now?
The rivalry would/will not be anywhere near the same if MU moves conferences. You know that as well as anyone. The rivalry is what it is because they're in the same conference.

[Pitt Gorilla]

The SEC will be less fun for the fans./KK

[Saul Good]

Would you continue to play KU in the state of Kansas if they bolted to the Pac 12?

At Livestrong? 30 minutes from Lawrence, and 3 hours from Columbia? Probably not. If the Kansas border stretched over to Arrowhead which is 2 and a half hours from Columbia and an hour and fifteen minutes from Lawrence? Sure.

[beer bacon]

The rivalry would/will not be anywhere near the same if MU moves conferences. You know that as well as anyone. The rivalry is what it is because they're in the same conference.

Uhhhh, we had a pretty intense rivalry before football and basketball were invented.

[Saul Good]

The rivalry would/will not be anywhere near the same if MU moves conferences. You know that as well as anyone. The rivalry is what it is because they're in the same conference.

Who is Iowa State's biggest rival?

[Mr. Plow]

I would say the same thing about the basketball game, but I just don't think KU has anything to gain by scheduling MU in the Sprint center and taking another non-con game out.


Exactly.

[patteeu]

The ****? What game is KU going to schedule that makes as much money as the Border War at Arrowhead?

As far as Illinois goes, MU/Illinois don't have a 100+ year history. Champaign is 200 miles from the nearest big city in Missouri. Missourians never burned Champaign to the ground. That is a piss-poor comparison.

If KU commits to scheduling MU in it's non-con, their chances of achieving bowl eligibility will take a significant hit. Does anyone believe KU is going to win 3+ games with any regularity in the Big XII?

[BigCatDaddy]

The SEC will be less fun for the fans./KK

Losing sucks no matter to whom and where you are losing. He's right on that one.

[DeezNutz]

Mizzou is going to leave to a league of football giants with unbelievable facilities, but we're going to stay stagnant. Less fun for fans.

Real rivals don't do this!

[Mr. Plow]

The rivalry would/will not be anywhere near the same if MU moves conferences. You know that as well as anyone. The rivalry is what it is because they're in the same conference.

The rivalry is what is because KU hates MU & MU hates KU and we want, and hope for, the worst for our counterpart. It has nothing to do with being in the same conference.

[DeezNutz]

Mizzou is going to leave to a league of football giants with unbelievable facilities, but we're going to stay stagnant. Less fun for fans.

Real rivals don't do this!

[Saul Good]

The SEC will be less fun for the fans./KK

I'm going to miss Ames, Lawrence, Manhattan, Waco, Stillwater, etc. when we are forced to play in Gainesville, Athens, Knoxville, Fayetville, Tuscaloosa, Baton Rouge, etc.

[Saul Good]

If KU commits to scheduling MU in it's non-con, their chances of achieving bowl eligibility will take a significant hit. Does anyone believe KU is going to win 3+ games with any regularity in the Big XII?

I don't think they can win 2+ now. Maybe when the city schools come marching in.

[Reerun_KC]

I'm going to miss Ames, Lawrence, Manhattan, Waco, Stillwater, etc. when we are forced to play in Gainesville, Athens, Knoxville, Fayetville, Tuscaloosa, Baton Rouge, etc.

Just curious?

do you or did you travel alot for the road games?

[Bambi]

Great call that last one.

[|Zach|]

The rivalry is what is because KU hates MU & MU hates KU and we want, and hope for, the worst for our counterpart. It has nothing to do with being in the same conference.

Yea.

Game on I say!

[Mr. Plow]

I'm going to miss Ames, Lawrence, Manhattan, Waco, Stillwater, etc. when we are forced to play in Gainesville, Athens, Knoxville, Fayetville, Tuscaloosa, Baton Rouge, etc.


Yeah....Columbia ranks right up there with the best SEC towns. Columbia has always been this hidden gem in the crapfest that is the Big 12.

[DeezNutz]

Yeah....Columbia ranks right up there with the best SEC towns. Columbia has always been this hidden gem in the crapfest that is the Big 12.

Actually, Columbia is a fantastic town, and the seamless blend from university to downtown makes for a great atmosphere.

[Pants]

Yeah....Columbia ranks right up there with the best SEC towns. Columbia has always been this hidden gem in the crapfest that is the Big 12.

LMAO

[Saul Good]

Just curious?

do you or did you travel alot for the road games?

I've been to Manhattan, Ames, Lawrence, and Norman. I will plan on making one road game per year in the SEC.

[Pants]

Just curious?

do you or did you travel alot for the road games?

We already established that he didn't. But that's only because the venues were not up to par. That's probably how all MU fans think which explains why they don't travel.

[Saul Good]

Yeah....Columbia ranks right up there with the best SEC towns. Columbia has always been this hidden gem in the crapfest that is the Big 12.

Columbia is a fantastic college town. The SEC isn't filled with glamorous destinations, but they are loaded with great college football venues.

[Bowser]

I really am going to miss going against the old rivals. I mean, just look at this back and forth between the various fans of the assorted schools. That being said, two things -

1) It's going to be a blast forming new rivalries. Yes, we will take it on the chin against these teams the first coule of years, but it can only help us in the long run. If it don't kill ya.....

2) All the KU/KSU/Big XII fans cannot deny that if their schools were offered an opportunity to join the SEC and escape the Texas overlords, every single one of those schools would have jumped feet first at the opportunity. Don't lie, don't act like your school wold be above such actions for the sake of "tradition" or "rivals". You'd be being extremely dishonest with yourself. (I'm not sure of this point has been brought up in this thread or the other one yet, so I figured I'd throw it out there)


Missouri is doing what's best for Missouri, period.

[bobbything]

The rivalry is what is because KU hates MU & MU hates KU and we want, and hope for, the worst for our counterpart. It has nothing to do with being in the same conference.
If you honestly don't think the rivalry would take a significant hit if KU and MU weren't in the same conference, then arguing about this is moot.

I think it has a lot to do with being in the same conference.

[Bowser]

Yeah....Columbia ranks right up there with the best SEC towns. Columbia has always been this hidden gem in the crapfest that is the Big 12.

Finally, someone that gets it.

[eazyb81]

Yeah....Columbia ranks right up there with the best SEC towns. Columbia has always been this hidden gem in the crapfest that is the Big 12.

COLUMBIA — Touting its independent arts scene, quantity of colleges, homecoming traditions and “healthy dose of Southern charm,” Columbia recently landed on Southern Living Magazine’s list of “The South’s Best College Towns.” (http://www.southernliving.com/travel/best-college-towns-00417000074763/)

[Mr. Plow]

Columbia is a fantastic college town. The SEC isn't filled with glamorous destinations, but they are loaded with great college football venues.


So what exactly makes Columbia a "fantastic college town" and Lawrence/Manhattan/Ames/pretty much every other Big 12 town shitty?